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	<title>Comments on: Markos To Receive Drum Major Award for Justice</title>
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		<title>By: The Mahablog &#187; Congrats to Kos</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Mahablog &#187; Congrats to Kos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[…] You might have noticed the orange animated ad in the left-hand column — “honor Kos for speaking truth to power.” This Thursday night Markos Moulitsas (along with Wynton Marsalis and Anna Burger) is being honored by the Drum Major Institute for Public Policy in New York City. Read more from Jane Hamsher, here. […]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] You might have noticed the orange animated ad in the left-hand column — “honor Kos for speaking truth to power.” This Thursday night Markos Moulitsas (along with Wynton Marsalis and Anna Burger) is being honored by the Drum Major Institute for Public Policy in New York City. Read more from Jane Hamsher, here. […]</p>
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		<title>By: ElanaDMI</title>
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		<dc:creator>ElanaDMI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the great post Jane.&lt;br /&gt;
Hope people will also check out the DMIblog (www.dmiblog.com)&lt;br /&gt;
Its a public policy blog we run at DMI. DMI’s fellows - all grassroots leaders for social justice as our regular posters. We have policy people and people from the grassroots weighing in on important public policy news and ideas every day so do stop over.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great post Jane.<br />
Hope people will also check out the DMIblog (www.dmiblog.com)<br />
Its a public policy blog we run at DMI. DMI’s fellows &#8211; all grassroots leaders for social justice as our regular posters. We have policy people and people from the grassroots weighing in on important public policy news and ideas every day so do stop over.</p>
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		<title>By: An Angry Old Broad</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Angry Old Broad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think we’ve had the internets since AOL first started up.What’s that,maybe 12 or 13 yrs?I,being the anti-techie had to be dragged kicking and screaming to a computer screen,so I was a bit slower to catch up than my hubby has been.So it’s been 6 or 7 yrs for me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was a community moderator at ivillage.com(a woman’s website with message boards for a bunch of topics)for a couple of years and saw alot of stuff happen to various online communities.I’d say the good stuff way outran the bad,but there are pitfalls to any group of humans gathering in any place-real or cyber-to do anything.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not all of us are leaders.Someone like me for example,wouldn’t be the best leader,I tend to mother everyone,too much(ask my kids,lol).And drive myself crazy making sure everyone is comfy,or at least included.Sometimes you can’t do that,plus it can eat up valuable time that’s needed for other things.(but,I ended up forming a little group of people willing to work with those feeling left behind a little,that spared the whole community a big headache sometimes)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But we do need leaders(for lack of a better word this minute-pre coffee-as I wave at Christy,lol),if we didn’t need them,then Progressive politics would be more of the norm rather than the exception.I don’t know that I’d call Markos a leader as much as I would someone who’s trying to clear the path a little so others can make it to the gate a little quicker.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Something that has worked for me in the past,in my moderator days,was to ask people who were feeling left out,or who were worried about getting too big too fast “What are you afraid of?What’s the fear behind your concerns?How do you think we can work past your fear to reach the goal we’re working on?”It makes people think about their criticism,or what might have happened to them to make them afraid.Now,this doesn’t always work,but it can de-rail and allay some people’s fears.Sometimes they are just scared of change,and that can be fixed.(actual trolls,not so much)I used to give them jobs to do too,be it research,or contacting organizations and people pertaining to the topic at hand,it takes away some of that helplessness that lies at the heart of their fears.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyhoo,good for Markos for putting a face on TV and presenting himself as someone who’s smart and savvy.We need that,but as long as we remember that’s not ALL we need,we’ll win out.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we’ve had the internets since AOL first started up.What’s that,maybe 12 or 13 yrs?I,being the anti-techie had to be dragged kicking and screaming to a computer screen,so I was a bit slower to catch up than my hubby has been.So it’s been 6 or 7 yrs for me.</p>
<p>I was a community moderator at ivillage.com(a woman’s website with message boards for a bunch of topics)for a couple of years and saw alot of stuff happen to various online communities.I’d say the good stuff way outran the bad,but there are pitfalls to any group of humans gathering in any place-real or cyber-to do anything.</p>
<p>Not all of us are leaders.Someone like me for example,wouldn’t be the best leader,I tend to mother everyone,too much(ask my kids,lol).And drive myself crazy making sure everyone is comfy,or at least included.Sometimes you can’t do that,plus it can eat up valuable time that’s needed for other things.(but,I ended up forming a little group of people willing to work with those feeling left behind a little,that spared the whole community a big headache sometimes)</p>
<p>But we do need leaders(for lack of a better word this minute-pre coffee-as I wave at Christy,lol),if we didn’t need them,then Progressive politics would be more of the norm rather than the exception.I don’t know that I’d call Markos a leader as much as I would someone who’s trying to clear the path a little so others can make it to the gate a little quicker.</p>
<p>Something that has worked for me in the past,in my moderator days,was to ask people who were feeling left out,or who were worried about getting too big too fast “What are you afraid of?What’s the fear behind your concerns?How do you think we can work past your fear to reach the goal we’re working on?”It makes people think about their criticism,or what might have happened to them to make them afraid.Now,this doesn’t always work,but it can de-rail and allay some people’s fears.Sometimes they are just scared of change,and that can be fixed.(actual trolls,not so much)I used to give them jobs to do too,be it research,or contacting organizations and people pertaining to the topic at hand,it takes away some of that helplessness that lies at the heart of their fears.</p>
<p>Anyhoo,good for Markos for putting a face on TV and presenting himself as someone who’s smart and savvy.We need that,but as long as we remember that’s not ALL we need,we’ll win out.</p>
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		<title>By: jayackroyd</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/13/markos-to-receive-drum-major-award-for-justice/#comment-141634</link>
		<dc:creator>jayackroyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Jane.  I bought a ticket.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And nice post on Holy Joe and the rest of the Senators who ignored our faxes and phone calls.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jane.  I bought a ticket.</p>
<p>And nice post on Holy Joe and the rest of the Senators who ignored our faxes and phone calls.</p>
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		<title>By: Brainfaht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brainfaht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 04:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Markos deserves every accolade coming his way. The way he handled himself on Meet the Press  had to make every blogger proud. That said, we need to remind ourselves that the blogosphere is much different than it was two years ago and will be different five months from now depending on what the fruits of our labors have borne. It will have to be revaluated again in two years for the general election.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If we become more powerful it is only natural that we will have to deal with the problems that it will bring, and don’t even bring up ego look what it did to Lieberman.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Markos deserves every accolade coming his way. The way he handled himself on Meet the Press  had to make every blogger proud. That said, we need to remind ourselves that the blogosphere is much different than it was two years ago and will be different five months from now depending on what the fruits of our labors have borne. It will have to be revaluated again in two years for the general election.</p>
<p>If we become more powerful it is only natural that we will have to deal with the problems that it will bring, and don’t even bring up ego look what it did to Lieberman.</p>
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		<title>By: neurophius</title>
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		<dc:creator>neurophius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 03:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;On topic&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Having just spent 3 1/2 days in a convention with Markos (and 1,000 other people), I did not perceive any sense of grandiosity or lust for power about him.  He seemed very friendly, open and I would say modest. My only actual conversation with him was at a book-signing, but I found him very approachable and just pleasant to be around.  I did not see him moving around surrounded by guards or aides like I did Sen. Reid or Gov. Warner.  He just did not come across as someone who was trying to elevate himself to some elite, exclusionary position of power in the blogosphere or in the world of politics. I think he is very deserving of the award. I would be interested in hearing other people’s perspectives.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On topic</p>
<p>Having just spent 3 1/2 days in a convention with Markos (and 1,000 other people), I did not perceive any sense of grandiosity or lust for power about him.  He seemed very friendly, open and I would say modest. My only actual conversation with him was at a book-signing, but I found him very approachable and just pleasant to be around.  I did not see him moving around surrounded by guards or aides like I did Sen. Reid or Gov. Warner.  He just did not come across as someone who was trying to elevate himself to some elite, exclusionary position of power in the blogosphere or in the world of politics. I think he is very deserving of the award. I would be interested in hearing other people’s perspectives.</p>
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		<title>By: smiley</title>
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		<dc:creator>smiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;*ilson46201 and I remember the same era of electronic music.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*ilson46201 and I remember the same era of electronic music.</p>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
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		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;smiley, no problem, just wanted to keep other people from making MY mistake when I first came onto the blog.  It feels like a public space, but need to remember that it was developed and managed by a particular person, and they do have some inherent rights.  We may freely speak, but they may freely not so much like what we say.  I learned [ouch] rather the hard way not to criticize directly the posters.  Criticize ideas yes, people, no.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Re Moog, I met him in conjunction with my work with a commission on the handicapped, where his expertise on speech recognition was very valuable.  Nice guy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Imman, I’m waiting.  Are you coming over?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>smiley, no problem, just wanted to keep other people from making MY mistake when I first came onto the blog.  It feels like a public space, but need to remember that it was developed and managed by a particular person, and they do have some inherent rights.  We may freely speak, but they may freely not so much like what we say.  I learned [ouch] rather the hard way not to criticize directly the posters.  Criticize ideas yes, people, no.</p>
<p>Re Moog, I met him in conjunction with my work with a commission on the handicapped, where his expertise on speech recognition was very valuable.  Nice guy.</p>
<p>Imman, I’m waiting.  Are you coming over?</p>
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		<title>By: smiley</title>
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		<dc:creator>smiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Robert Moog was a personal friend of the chair of the music department at my college. Even though it was a small college in central PA, we had one of the most advanced electronic music labs on the east coast, including a complete (at the time) Moog synthesizer, various half-inch reel-to-reel recorders, mixers, equilizers, studio monitors etc. It was monophonic so if you wanted polyphonic or harmonic stuff, you had to dub it using the tape recorders, etc. The lab was housed in the college chapel that was at the far end of the quad. We could, and did, “entertain/haunt” our fellow students with &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; loud entertaining and haunting sounds. Ah, the good old days…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Moog was a personal friend of the chair of the music department at my college. Even though it was a small college in central PA, we had one of the most advanced electronic music labs on the east coast, including a complete (at the time) Moog synthesizer, various half-inch reel-to-reel recorders, mixers, equilizers, studio monitors etc. It was monophonic so if you wanted polyphonic or harmonic stuff, you had to dub it using the tape recorders, etc. The lab was housed in the college chapel that was at the far end of the quad. We could, and did, “entertain/haunt” our fellow students with <i>very</i> loud entertaining and haunting sounds. Ah, the good old days…</p>
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		<title>By: Peterr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peterr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;looseheadprop (and Mary too, if she’s here)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good to hear from you - left a message back at the last thread.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looseheadprop (and Mary too, if she’s here)</p>
<p>Good to hear from you &#8211; left a message back at the last thread.</p>
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