Comments on: Headliners and Legends http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 16 Feb 2012 02:21:08 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: The other Lebowski http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/#comment-141606 The other Lebowski Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:23:36 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/#comment-141606 <p>Leisure Guy was right!</p> Leisure Guy was right!

]]> By: conservativenotrepublican http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/#comment-139193 conservativenotrepublican Mon, 12 Jun 2006 22:53:13 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/#comment-139193 <p>orangejumpsuit, 36: <i>McAfferty is an asshole. Their suicide may be an act of political warfare, just as their imprisonment without charges was. But the three who committed suicide at Guantanamo did not hurt anyone but themselves. That he can draw a parallel between that and suicide bombings in Baghdad is Orwellian doublespeak.</i></p> <p>Like monkeys in a zoo, you banjo pickers are truly amusing to watch. What McAffrey (not McAfferty) said, as is printed <i>right in front of you</i>, is that their act was an act of <b>political</b> warfare, not actual, physical, military warfare. Holy cow, are you really this stupid or just so habituated to lying that you can’t even be honest with yourself???</p> <p>Let me clue you in: political warfare refers to acts that are performed in order to achieve a political objective, not a military one. McAffrey believes (as do I) that the suicides were intended to a) cheat earthly justice, and b) arouse sympathy and outrage among anti-Americans both here and abroad in order to bring about an end to the war and subvert anti-terrorist activity in general around the world. Thus, while the use of sympathy rather than terror makes these acts and those of Baghdad bombers different according to their means, the end–a political reaction–remains exactly the same.</p> <p>Really, as a leftist revolutionary, you should be familiar with this whole sympathy tack. It’s the very same one you use all the time, for example with the Jersey Girls, since the violent approach didn’t work so well for you back in the ’60’s.</p> <p>P.S. Imprisonment without charges in the case of the Guantanamo detainees is manifestly <i>not</i> an act of political warfare. Whether such imprisonment is right or wrong, the intent is not to bring about a political reaction. It’s to isolate and subdue the accused and to extract information from him. </p> <p>P.P.S. I am not a supporter of George Bush (voted for him neither time), nor of the Iraq war (opposed it from the beginning), but the truth is the truth and you dummies ought to at least have a passing acquaintance with it once in awhile.</p> orangejumpsuit, 36: McAfferty is an asshole. Their suicide may be an act of political warfare, just as their imprisonment without charges was. But the three who committed suicide at Guantanamo did not hurt anyone but themselves. That he can draw a parallel between that and suicide bombings in Baghdad is Orwellian doublespeak.

Like monkeys in a zoo, you banjo pickers are truly amusing to watch. What McAffrey (not McAfferty) said, as is printed right in front of you, is that their act was an act of political warfare, not actual, physical, military warfare. Holy cow, are you really this stupid or just so habituated to lying that you can’t even be honest with yourself???

Let me clue you in: political warfare refers to acts that are performed in order to achieve a political objective, not a military one. McAffrey believes (as do I) that the suicides were intended to a) cheat earthly justice, and b) arouse sympathy and outrage among anti-Americans both here and abroad in order to bring about an end to the war and subvert anti-terrorist activity in general around the world. Thus, while the use of sympathy rather than terror makes these acts and those of Baghdad bombers different according to their means, the end–a political reaction–remains exactly the same.

Really, as a leftist revolutionary, you should be familiar with this whole sympathy tack. It’s the very same one you use all the time, for example with the Jersey Girls, since the violent approach didn’t work so well for you back in the ’60’s.

P.S. Imprisonment without charges in the case of the Guantanamo detainees is manifestly not an act of political warfare. Whether such imprisonment is right or wrong, the intent is not to bring about a political reaction. It’s to isolate and subdue the accused and to extract information from him.

P.P.S. I am not a supporter of George Bush (voted for him neither time), nor of the Iraq war (opposed it from the beginning), but the truth is the truth and you dummies ought to at least have a passing acquaintance with it once in awhile.

]]> By: breakingranks http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/#comment-138803 breakingranks Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:49:37 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/#comment-138803 <p>Cspan isn’t the only one with the video!</p> <p>Link TV has been posting video clips of Yearly Kos here: <a href="http://www.linktv.org/yearlykos/">http://www.linktv.org/yearlykos/</a></p> <p>Longer segments with better video controls are posted here: <a href="http://www.fora.tv/">http://www.fora.tv/</a> </p> <p>CIA Leak panel and Barbara Boxer are on the front page at Fora TV.</p> Cspan isn’t the only one with the video!

Link TV has been posting video clips of Yearly Kos here: http://www.linktv.org/yearlykos/

Longer segments with better video controls are posted here: http://www.fora.tv/

CIA Leak panel and Barbara Boxer are on the front page at Fora TV.

]]> By: paul http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/#comment-138605 paul Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:05:16 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/#comment-138605 <p>wow! mexico vs. iran! that’s like an axis of evil showdown, considering the whole reconquista thing.</p> wow! mexico vs. iran! that’s like an axis of evil showdown, considering the whole reconquista thing.

]]> By: calscientist http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/#comment-138559 calscientist Mon, 12 Jun 2006 12:57:32 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/#comment-138559 <p>I saw the Kos clip on Crooks and Liars. He was great. He was so adroit and calm in swatting away Father Tim’s efforts to rile. The clip did not include the York remarks, but Kos was terrific. I believe he provided a one man proof that what McCurry is claiming about the blogosphere in the name of deep sixing net neutrality is patently false. The importance of this observation is of course for the larger non blogging world. I predict Kos gets on more.</p> I saw the Kos clip on Crooks and Liars. He was great. He was so adroit and calm in swatting away Father Tim’s efforts to rile. The clip did not include the York remarks, but Kos was terrific. I believe he provided a one man proof that what McCurry is claiming about the blogosphere in the name of deep sixing net neutrality is patently false. The importance of this observation is of course for the larger non blogging world. I predict Kos gets on more.

]]> By: professor rat http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/#comment-138539 professor rat Mon, 12 Jun 2006 12:09:58 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/#comment-138539 <p>This critical ( and hilarious ) summary is a huge plus for this - already insanely great - blog of blogs. Thanks Roger and thanks Janes Rootz crew. You know you are the best damn blog in the entire known fitzoverse.</p> This critical ( and hilarious ) summary is a huge plus for this – already insanely great – blog of blogs. Thanks Roger and thanks Janes Rootz crew. You know you are the best damn blog in the entire known fitzoverse.

]]> By: daCascadian http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/#comment-138514 daCascadian Mon, 12 Jun 2006 08:16:40 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/#comment-138514 <p>Rayne >”…It`s not a matter of with us/against us, but a matter of generational shift and self-selection; in less than 10 years, one set of parents/in-laws in my family will probably not be here with us. Mindset will be an enormous factor as to which ones are still here.”</p> <p>Absolutely !</p> <p>Different strokes for different folks to quote an oldie</p> <p>The strategy needed</p> <p>“The mind is its own place,<br /> and in itself can make a heaven of hell,<br /> and a hell of heaven.” - John Milton</p> Rayne >”…It`s not a matter of with us/against us, but a matter of generational shift and self-selection; in less than 10 years, one set of parents/in-laws in my family will probably not be here with us. Mindset will be an enormous factor as to which ones are still here.”

Absolutely !

Different strokes for different folks to quote an oldie

The strategy needed

“The mind is its own place,
and in itself can make a heaven of hell,
and a hell of heaven.” – John Milton

]]> By: jane_jericho http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/#comment-138353 jane_jericho Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:08:12 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/#comment-138353 <p>What DexDexter said @ 46. Yeah.</p> What DexDexter said @ 46. Yeah.

]]> By: *ooabby http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/#comment-138324 *ooabby Mon, 12 Jun 2006 03:35:26 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/#comment-138324 <p>Greetings from long time lurker, occasional poster, huge fdl fan, favorite brother of op99.<br /> I am so jealous of evbdy who went to ykos in Vegas ! Thank you opp99 for updates,and introductions (via cell phone) to fellow FDLers. The excitment of finally meeting in person Jane, Christy, Pach, and the great and prolific posters on FDl must have been overwhelming! Thankyou all for expanding my political savy beyond MSM . That is all. Back to lurking and learning!</p> Greetings from long time lurker, occasional poster, huge fdl fan, favorite brother of op99.
I am so jealous of evbdy who went to ykos in Vegas ! Thank you opp99 for updates,and introductions (via cell phone) to fellow FDLers. The excitment of finally meeting in person Jane, Christy, Pach, and the great and prolific posters on FDl must have been overwhelming! Thankyou all for expanding my political savy beyond MSM . That is all. Back to lurking and learning!

]]> By: Redshift http://firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/#comment-138317 Redshift Mon, 12 Jun 2006 03:26:12 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/11/headliners-and-legends/#comment-138317 <p>I’ve been on a plane all day and haven’t caught up on all the threads and comments, but in case this hasn’t been mentioned, apropos of the discussion yesterday (was it only yesterday?) –</p> <p><a href="http://www.needlenose.com/node/view/3039">Swopa</a> (with a bit of smart-aleck attitude) reports that:<br /> </p><blockquote>Gov. Warner hung out at the party so all the people he had supplied with free booze could engage him in conversation … which makes me wonder if he’s got the judgment to serve effectively as president.</blockquote> I’ve been on a plane all day and haven’t caught up on all the threads and comments, but in case this hasn’t been mentioned, apropos of the discussion yesterday (was it only yesterday?) –

Swopa (with a bit of smart-aleck attitude) reports that:

Gov. Warner hung out at the party so all the people he had supplied with free booze could engage him in conversation … which makes me wonder if he’s got the judgment to serve effectively as president.

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