
So, as many of the frequent commenters here know, I am TRex’s twin brother. We were born five minutes apart, and we have been moving in different directions ever since. He does the classical music show on the local public radio station, I play drums in Music Hates You. He has cats, I have dogs. His idea of a dream vacation is to be raiding the stationers and book shops of London (with unlimited funds). Mine would be to make the "Motorcycle Diaries" trip through South America living on two bucks a day and getting by on my meager Spanish. I like to spend my free time working in the dirt and growing my own food. He prefers to watch me do this through a window, in the air conditioning, over a good book and a cup of coffee.
We do, however, have some common ground- we both love a good meal, swimming in the ocean and, more than just about anything, we love Gospel Music.
Gospel is not just church music- It was the soundtrack to the American Civil Rights Movement as well. It was faith that sustained the Freedom Riders, the Marchers to Selma, the billy-clubbed, the jailed, the tear-gassed and the dog-bitten. It was a belief in a higher purpose that gave these freedom fighters strength- the strength that comes from a belief in Justice and Protection Granted by a Higher Authority. Theirs was not a God who sought to cast people out of the church , or to kill the infidels , or to issue fatwas on foreign leaders. Theirs was a faith that God would carry His people to freedom.
I don’t remember exactly when I discovered a song by the Harmonizing Four, a black Gospel group from Richmond, Virginia. I do know that it changed my life. From the very first notes of Jimmy Jones’ rumbling bass voice, I was awestruck. Jones has a voice that could part the waters. Pharaoh’s Army never had a chance. When he sings "I Shall Not Be Moved" (see the above link), brother, you will believe him.
The first Harmonizing Four song I ever heard was "Motherless Child."
"Motherless Child" by The Harmonizing Four
Since then, I have combed flea markets and estate sales, dimly lit and dusty record stores, and the far reaches of the internet, hunting for records, more mp3s, more forgotten bootleg CDs… I found this song as a B-side to a 45 rpm single:
"Strange Man" by Dorothy Love Coates
In the darkest hours of the last five years, it was the Swan Silvertones who gave me hope that perhaps one day we’d come out of perdition. As I watched Katrina flood the streets of New Orleans I listened to "Trouble of the World" by Mahalia Jackson. When I lost Buddha, my best dog and companion for fifteen years, it was "Never Grow Old" sung by Aretha Franklin that got me through. This music is comfort for the soul, but it also reminds me that those who went before us were not afraid of a fight. No crooked lawman or Klansman or axe-handle wielding redneck was going to keep them from voting, from going to college, or from simply riding the bus with some dignity.
"Mary Don’t You Weep " by Shirley Caeser and the Swan Silvertones
"Trouble of the World" by Mahalia Jackson
"Never Grow Old" by Aretha Franklin (If you can listen to this and think of anyone you have lost, and not turn into a teary-eyed pile of mush, then you’re not human. I’m just saying.)
This is the music of survival. This is the music of southern, rural people who struggled against the law, the weather, pestilence and poverty to get a crop out of the fields, to stay out of the way of the Conservative Citizens Council, to put up enough food to survive the winter, and to lift their children up to a better life. Many of these men and women did the jobs that no one else would do: cleaning other people’s houses, picking other people’s crops, building someone else’s fine buildings and working in the mill, building other people’s cars. It was backbreaking work. And yet, Sunday morning, you could find them, no doubt weary and aching, dressed in their best clothes and in church.
"Leave Your Burdens There" by the Dixie Hummingbirds
That’s when they made this music. There’s not a trace of anger, self-pity or bitterness in it anywhere. They found the best in themselves, and they passed it forward to us.
"Motherless Child " by the Swan Silvertones (A different song than the "Motherless Child" by the Harmonizing Four.)
Sure, it can be said that this is conservative music. As Pete Seeger once said "I like to say I’m more conservative than Goldwater. He just wanted to turn the clock back to when there was no income tax. I want to turn the clock back to when people lived in small villages and took care of each other."
"The Church is in Mourning" by Shirley Caeser (sorry about the quality on this- you can get a better copy on the upcoming "Lost Recordings of Shirley Ceaser" record coming out soon!)
As I watched Christy and Jane and Murray Waas, Joe Wilson and the hundreds of people who were in Vegas with them at the Plame Panel today, I thought… "Look at these wonderful people. Look at their strength. Listen to her dignity and charm as Christy speaks. Listen to Joe Wilson or Murray Waas, and tell me, who in our national debate now is on the side of justice?" (Consider Ann Coulter, this week, too, and tell me who is "Godless.") To struggle for justice is to be An American, in the best sense of the word.
"Uncloudy Day" by The Staple Singers
This is the music that inspired the greatest struggle for freedom and equality in America’s history. I hope that it inspires you, too.
"Amazing Grace" also by the Swan Sivertones
(a brief note: These songs are, unfortunately not complete, since I didn’t want to run afoul of the copyright police. I put as much up there as I thought was prudent.
I hope you enjoyed them.)



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Fitz!
I second that emotion!
check this out:
http://www.hollygroverecords.com/
my friend is a collector of old gospel and soul and has put together a pretty good discography complete with soundclips. some really amazing music i’ve never seen anywhere else… slick site too…
“stand on the word” by celestial choir is my fave. a huge paradise garage track back in the day…
Great post…thanks!
Welcome, Patrick!
YAYYYYY!!! *whistles*
YAAAAAAAAYYYYY!!!
*clapclapclapclapclap*
He ain’t heavy, y’all. He’s my brother.
Thanks Pach!
Nice to be here. (I obsessed about this post all day…. I hope everyone enjoys it…)
Marvelous. Thank you!
Welcome Patrick!!!! More please.
Way to go Patrick, you nailed it.
Thanks Patrick–the first one I picked was Motherless Child–great!!
Gospel music from people who were oppressed for HUNDREDS OF YEARS. We can learn from this.
Idea from the previous thread, that Byron York is a person of intellect who is open to learning more about what we are trying to do. I feel he is listening with an open heart. Sometime we must bridge the gap between left and right and come up with ideas that all humans can agree with. [och preposition placement]
Yo TRex,
I spent some time in Athens, early nineties.
Hung out at the 40 Watt and Roadhouse.
Sorry if I spilled beer on you.
And thanks for sharing the “Gone” thread this week. Very moving, and it brought me back to my first thoughts of compassion for victims of the AIDS tragedy. I vividly remember my sadness and horror in seeing the AIDS quilt at Stedman.
Peace
Oh. My. God. That Aretha Franklin cut literally wrenches the breath out of you.
I have to send that link ASAP to a friend. It’s not every day you can render a man breathless without so much as a whisper or a touch, you know?
Patrick,
I won’t have time tonight, but sometime when I do, I’m gonna sit back and savor those links. I’m really looking forward to it.
Greetings. Hope all are enjoying Vegas. And thank you Mr. Patrick for an interesting article.
A quick note, as I’m just about out of here for a glass of whiskey…..on Murtha: he has announced that he’s running for Majority Leader, should the D team gain majority. NOT running for Speaker. Majority Leader is….what the bugman, DeLay did. Only, as we know, Murtha will be a hell of a lot better.
All for now. And Pach…cheers.
Ghostman
egregious @ 12: I was wondering about York, reading all of the comments about him, hoping that maybe he was really taking in the simplicity and power of expression rather than simply stocking up on ammunition. I hope you’re right. What a patriot he could make, if he would.
Double EPU’d. Perhaps appropriate at the post of our doubled Trex, Patrick. Hey Patrick hope we hear more from you!!!!
Prev. comment: lhp, I humbly thank you for caring about a complete stranger. Such a community spirit is exactly how we will prevail over the evil that is threatening to destroy our government and our nation.
I appreciate the sentiments of this post greatly. But you left one critically important thing off of all this: This is also the music of people with a great faith in Jesus Christ. If you’re going to write about gospel, you’ve got to write about Him.
Whether you’re Christian or not, it’s undeniable that gospel isn’t just black or African American music, but explicitly and relentlessly Christian music. And to describe it without mentioning that is to exercise one’s ability to avoid and circumnavigate the obvious.
If it should remind progressives of anything it’s that the roots of progressivism itself run deep into America’s churches. That in ceding that Christianity to the right wing, it has let a powerful and vibrant element of itself wither away.
Amen from Lilies of the Field.
I learnt this one early on in my life and it still makes me ashamed, yet proud we had moved on, until w came along– but, the pathos is right here:
>>>
Carry Me Back to Old Virginny
words and music by James Bland
Carry me back to old Virginny,
There’s where the cotton and the corn and tatoes grow,
There’s where the birds warble sweet in the springtime,
There’s where the old darkey’s heart am long’d to go,
There’s where I labor’d so hard for old massa,
Day after day in the field of yellow corn,
No place on earth do I love more sincerely
Than old Virginny, the state where I was born.
CHORUS:
Carry me back to old Virginny,
There’s where the cotton and the corn and tatoes grow,
There’s where the birds warble sweet in the springtime,
There’s where this old darkey’s heart am long’d to go.
Carry me back to old Virginny,
There let me live ’till I wither and decay,
Long by the old Dismal Swamp have I wander’d,
There’s where this old darkey’s life will pass away.
Massa and missis have long gone before me,
Soon we will meet on that bright and golden shore,
There we’ll be happy and free from all sorrow,
There’s where we’ll meet and we’ll never part no more.
I understand that you folks in Sin City are going to be a bit too busy to listen to an hour of music, but I will leave the links up for as long as it takes for the sys admin at work to notice the bandwidth spike… (Hi, Paul!)
I have to run off to Music Hates You practice here before too long, myself.
I hope you folks out in Vegas are having fun and someone tell TBogg I am gonna paypal him the cost of a cold beer any minute… really…
jane jericho: We need to establish connections between intellectuals of the left and the right. People who treasure the truth can make common cause and help analyze what the bloody **** is going on with our government. I think TRUE conservatives will want to be in on this dialogue.
Jusy an FYI….Noam Chomsky on PBS Charlie Rose this evening.
Patrick,
thank you for the inspirational message and for the info on the Gospel music. I must admit it was not on my playlist before, but I will add it.
and another of my favorites:
I’m gonna tell you ’bout the coming of the judgment
Fare thee well, fare thee well
I’m gonna tell you ’bout the coming of the judgment
Fare thee well, fare thee well
There’s a better day a coming, fare thee well, fare thee well
Yes there’s a better day a coming, fare thee well, fare thee well
In that great gettin’ up morning, fare thee well, fare thee well
In that great gettin’ up morning, fare thee well, fare thee well
In that great gettin’ up morning, fare thee well, fare thee well
In that great gettin’ up morning, fare thee well, fare thee well
Oh preacher fold your bible, fare thee well, fare thee well
Oh preacher fold your bible, fare thee well, fare thee well
For the last souls converted, fare thee well, fare thee well
Yes for the last souls converted, fare thee well, fare thee well
Blow your trumpet Gabriel, fare thee well, fare thee well
Blow your trumpet Gabriel, fare thee well, fare thee well
Lord, how loud shall I blow it, fare thee well, fare thee well
Blow it right and calm and easy, fare thee well, fare thee well
Do not ‘larm all my people, fare thee well, fare thee well
Tell them all come to the judgment, fare thee well, fare thee well
Then you see that fork of lightening, fare thee well, fare thee well
Then you hear that rumbling thunder, fare thee well, fare thee well
Then you see dem stars a falling, fare thee well, fare thee well
Then you see the world on fire, fare thee well, fare thee well
Then you see dem sinners rising, fare thee well, fare thee well
See ‘em marching home for heaven, fare thee well, fare thee well
Farewell poor sinners, fare thee well, fare thee well
Farewell poor sinners, fare thee well, fare thee well
Ummm, have you guys actually read York’s columns? He is looking for ammo, period. A week ago he was desperately trying to prove that Glenn Greenwald’s book was being ‘bulk ordered’. Barbara Comstock has him on speed dial.
You can give him credit for showing up – but he’s not a good guy. He’ll try to smear anyone he disagrees with – just like the other neocons at the National Review. Rovain tactics are all they know.
I’m with MaryAnn. York’s fax machine runs on a line straight from Comstock’s office.
But who knows? Maybe he’ll defect. He’ll show up pounding on Christy’s hotel room door at 4:30 in the morning, “PLEASE!! SAVE ME!! I DON’T WANT TO GO BACK!! They threatened my FAMILY! Save me, pleeeeeeease.”
“Can’t this wait until I’ve had some coffee, York?”
“You don’t know what it’s like back there, Ms Smith. It’s HORRIBLE! You have NO IDEA! PLEASE!! Give me amnestyyyyy!!”
Since this is a music thread and all of the kids that ride the regular sized bus are in Vegas, I thought I could get away with posting the lyrics of “One Tin Soldier”. Here’s a hint: the valley people are the bush admin.
Listen children to a story that was written long ago
’bout a kingdom on a mountain and the valley folk below.
On the mountain was a treasure buried deep beneath a stone,
and the valley people swore they’d have it for their very own.
Chorus
So the people of the valley sent a message up the hill
asking for the buried treasure, tons of gold for which they’d kill.
Came an answer from the kingdom: “With our brothers we will share
all the secrets of our mountain, all the riches buried there.”
Chorus
Now the valley cried with anger; mount your horses, draw your sword,
and they killed the mountain people, so they won their just reward.
Now they stood beside the treasure on the mountain, dark and red,
turned the stone and looked beneath it. “Peace on earth” was all it said.
Chorus: Go ahead and hate your neighbor, go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of heaven, justify it in the end.
There won’t be any trumpets blowin’ come the judgment day
on the bloody morning after one tin soldier rides away.
MaryAnn– Read him, digested him and got rid of him. He is very mean-spirited. Alas, poor York….. your goose is cooked.
Methinks he must expunge his gall at the house of Comstock and be done with it!
well, folks, I hate to post and run… but…
I have to bug out to Music Hates You Practice. (We just keep getting louder…)
Glad everyone enjoyed the music. I will be back in a couple of hours to see what everyone’s up to late night…
Have fun. Thanks for having me.
MaryAnn,
“Barbara Comstock has him on speed dial.”
I heard about that on C-SPAN today, as did any one else watching! LOL ; )
I concur, Mr. Huffman.
The civil rights movement was born sustainee in the church.
Our progressive movement embraces people of all beliefs, and some of the most major pillars of our beliefs can also be found in the Gospel.
TRex,
ROTFLMAO!
MaryAnn, I disagree, I think Byron is trying to be intellectually consistent. At present it is easier for him to lean toward the right, since they are being kinder to him than we are. Criticizing his hair? How this affects his analysis of political events anyone?
We need to listen to his ideas, engage him on an intellectual level, and gently encourage him to consider a point of view that includes ideas outside what Comstock et al are providing. I think he is for real and it is a shame that people on the right are trying to pressure him to produce solely anti-progressive articles.
People who are interested in ideas are our kind of people. We need to engage them in an ongoing dialogue and stop with the ridicule about his hair. I have morning hair that could cause alarm, nobody here is demeaning my ideas because of it.
Take home lesson: Cease criticism based on physical attributes. Talk about ideas. We need everyone who is intelligent to help figure out what to do about our nation.
Wonderful music; and I love the Pete Seeger quote; Thank you!
Cozumel, now guess which one of us is the evil twin.
G’nite, all.
TRex- are you moderating while Patrick is off doing other things?
And, TRex, are you and Patrick identical twins or fraternal twins?
“Consider Ann Coulter, this week, too, and tell me who is “Godless”
This ‘godless=Coulterlike or evil or unlike us’ meme is more than a little troubling. Here are two things I hope you’ll consider Patrick. I am not a believer, I have never been powered by ‘belief in Justice and Protection Granted by a Higher Authority’ Or by a faith that “God will carry his people to freedom” And I was among your hallowed ‘ Freedom Riders, the Marchers to Selma, the billy-clubbed, the jailed, the tear-gassed and the dog-bitten’ I and many like me came to Mississippi to register voters and share the risk with black Mississippians believing in justice without believing in God. It’s a mistake to write us out of your history or your plans.
You know, those old Stephen Foster songs have a lot more pathos to them when you listen closely, too…people sold away, sadly looking back to their young and gay days…
Think it’s too late to get anything useful out of sending some of these links to Ken Blackwell? Yeah, probably.
MaryAnn @ 26: No question, York is a partisan mudslinger. And I haven’t followed him closely enough to know whether or not he routinely shows his face at venues like YKos. If so, then it seems unlikely he’s actually engaged with the debate and is, as you surmise, either cynically ignoring the evidence of his senses or more or less robotically gleaning tidbits to please his masters. I’ve seen Barbara Comstock mentioned several times.
But if not, and if he’s “meeting” the netroots face to face for the first time… who knows? It’s not just his reactions to the speakers I’m curious about; it’s his assessment, if he makes one, of the audience. We’re not a legion of stars and pundits. We’re people with families and jobs and lives who care deeply about the Constitution and the country it’s made possible. That might get through. Hope springs eternal…
egregious: conserve: to protect from loss or harm. That’s a pretty big idea, IMO. I hope you’re right.
VG-
Yes, I am here. How are you? Did you get to watch the panel on C-Span?
Welcome to FDL Patrick!
Are you kidding me ?!?! a gospel thread at my blogging home – AMEN
Brother Patrick you come over here and sit next to Sister Clare anytime you want dahlin’
and you love it too Brother T Rex ? lawdy lawdy
you do not have to be Christian or spiritually oriented in any way to not only enjoy this music, but to benefit from hearing it
Patrick – is the Aretha cut the song she sang @ MLK’s funeral ?
Clips from movie The LadyKillers
(courtesy T Bone Burnett)
The Venice Four
http://www.amazon.com/gp/music…..46-9926428
Sam Cooke & Soul Stirrers (a 17 yr old Sam)
The Soul Stirrers were later fronted by both Jackie Wilson and Jerry Butler
http://www.amazon.com/gp/music…..46-9926428
Try This:
go here- and when it prompts you about song or or Artist type in THe Soul Stirrers or Blind Boys of Alabama, or hell Mahailia Jackson, or who was that wonderful woman who sang Amazing Grace for Bill Moyers – Johnny ?
http://www.pandora.com/
thanks so much for this Patrick!
John Pearley Huffman @ 8:28 pm (#19) – I like gospel music, though I’m not a big fan. I am also an atheist. I have no problem talking about gospel music without talking about what religious beliefs might have inspired it. So your major premise is wrong.
York’s post on YKOS isn’t in any way generous. I wouldn’t put my money on him caring about learning anything there. He writes like a twit with a book report due.
VG, you’ve got mail.
Thank you Patrick– come back soon, please! TRex– y’all have powerful genes.
From earlier discussion, I was moved by TeddySanFran’s insistence that we analyze Ann Coulter’s ideas without reference to what gender she/he is/was. The whole idea of blogs is that we can talk about ideas without reference to our physical beings.
You might look at me, or Byron, or Ann [..not AnnE..] and decide based on physical attributes that you disagree immediately with anything we might have to say. You don’t know whether I am a 54-year-old with a stunningly beautiful face and a fine figure or a 54-year-old with a disability that makes people turn away. I can tell you, but does it matter about my IDEAS?
‘Speak the truth with love.’ If we disagree, ok, but let it not be because of prejudice about physical things. Let’s engage Byron with a conversation of ideas, and leave disparaging comments about appearance out of it. Let’s take the high road.
Thank you Patrick%u2013 come back soon, please! TRex%u2013 y’all have powerful genes.
At British customs:
“Have you anything to declare?”
“Nothing but my genius.”
(Oscar Wilde, 1845)
“Nothing but my jeans.”
(Morrissey, 1985)
“Nothing but our genes.”
(TRex and Patrick, 2006)
luv to patrick,Thanks!
A little FDOT but lookie what I found.
Looks like the “grief-a-razzi” was on hand at the Republican National Convention in 2004.
You would think these “broads” would have just taken their blood money and would have the decency to just shut their mouths instead of using their “victim status” to jump on a political bandwagon.
“New York, NY, Aug. 30 (UPI) — There was not a dry eye to be found in New York’s cavernous Madison Square Garden after surviving relatives of three Americans killed on Sept. 11, 2001, addressed the delegates as part of the conventions “A Nation of Courage” Monday night program.”
http://washingtontimes.com/upi…..-6195r.htm
-GSD
Oh, and we are identicals.
We are exactly alike in totally different ways.
TRex– reckon you and your twin can claim all of those quite happily! ;)!
York doesn’t lean right because the right is ‘nicer’ to him. He isn’t a child. And if you want to talk about York’s ideas – check out his archive at the National Review. All the greatest hits are there …. cheerleading Kerry’s swiftboating, smearing Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan, attacking Planned Parenthood, etc., etc.
http://author.nationalreview.c…..p=MjAwNg==
York is not on the road to Damascus, he’s looking for ammo. And that’s fine, he has got a perfect right to be there, but he will not be fair or be accurate. He has already misquoted a participant in one of his articles, and wasn’t he involved in outing Armando on the daily kos last week? Engage him all you want, just know what to expect.
luv to T-rex too!
And why should York be generous to us when we are criticizing him about a physical attribute, rather than engaging his ideas?
Egregious, York’s attacks on liberals and progressives started way before anyone joked about his hair.
I’m afraid we’re going to have to agree to disagree on this one …. I need to get off to bed.
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Robbie says:
June 9th, 2006 at 8:52 pm (#39) – I wrote this over at Taylor Marsh’s site today, after she made the assertion, again, that Ann Coulter was the godless one:
As someone who could be considered “godless”, a fairly apt description of an atheist, I’d just like to say that being godless in no way connotes being Republican, as far as I’m concerned. Most atheists I run into, in fact, seem to be libertarians, who must be almost as appalled at this Administration as I am.
To me, Coulter’s just more proof that what people get out of their religions depends on what they bring with them. In Ann’s case, she’s brought with her enough hate and bile to overwhelm several Shaolin monks and a convent full of nuns. Hers is the kind of religion that gives it a bad name among non-believers. I’m not sure what Ann’s problem is, but I’m fairly sure it’s nothing to do with either religion or the lack of it. Her hatred seems so strong that there may be no explanation on the nurture side of the nature/nurture issue.
Some people were just born bad. Ann Coulter appears to be one of them.
Cujo359 | 06.09.06 – 2:40 pm | #
I wasn’t really insulted, but I was trying to make the same point you are, that the “godless == bad” meme is an uncomfortable one. Here’s the reply:
While I think she’s also kidding, there’s an undercurrent that seems to say that it’s perfectly alright for monotheists to say that “godless” means “bad”. I suppose that this is a difference of interpretation of the term, but I figure that many Christians in this country are just as unfamiliar with that meaning as I am. To me “godless” means people like me. To Christians, it seems to be that they associate that with the idea that everyone has their god in them, whether they know it or not. Like I said, though, I bet there are numerous Christians who miss that subtle point.
Anyway, I know Taylor, like the monotheists who come here, isn’t a hateful person. She certainly doesn’t think “godless” means what I do. I’m just concerned that there are plenty of folks who aren’t that smart.
Trex? Do you know a red headed 35ish woman named Panda from Athens?
meta @ 45: He writes like a twit with a book report due. Heh. Exactly right. He was barely trying. It was a boring column, I thought.
MaryAnn: You’re probably right. I can’t imagine myself ever being persuaded, for example, that the doctrine of the unitary executive is fundamental to the survival of the republic, no matter how eloquent the opposition.
But I do remember that Daniel Ellsberg was one of McNamara’s boys before he became the guy who gave us the Pentagon Papers.
Patrick, I don’[t know if you ever heard of “Morning Train,” a KUNM radio show back in the 70s, early 80s out of Albuquerque, NM. (The man who put it on has since died, or so I was told.)
But it was excellent. Sunday morning was the church of gospel music, old gospel like you play. Some was recorded in churches, I think. There’s a song I have never been able to find, “Stranger in the City.” If you have heard of it I would give quite a bit to hear it again.
egregious,
Amen to you, up and down the thread. (Despite your problems with prepositions.)
Gospel music is the music of hope, sung by those society says ought to have no hope. These days, that’s powerful stuff.
And as for physical attributes . . . one of the odd things for me, staying at home from Vegas, was watching the C-SPAN video and going “Oh, that’s what Jane and Christy look like.” Obviously, with a handle like Reddhead, Christy’s hair was not really a surprise. Still, given the pounding we’ve been giving Ann Coulter lately, seeing people whom I’ve measured solely by ideas was a bit different. I even found myself looking at the crowd wondering “Is that Pach? Could that be Sharkbabe?”
Is York trolling, or is there perhaps a chance at reaching out . . . I don’t know, but if we assume trolling, then we’ll never know, will we?
So again – Amen!
egregious, you are welcome to find hope in York if you’d like. I’ve never said a thing about his hair. I just don’t think he gives progressives a fair shake. I’d love to be wrong about that, but so far I haven’t seen any evidence.
MaryAnn, you are correct that he isn’t on our side just because we might be ‘nice’ to him. My point is that he will NEVER consider the ideas of the left as long as we are looking at him with disdain.
I hope that we will gradually and patiently appeal to people on the right, starting with intellectuals and libertarians, and going on to include many more of those who are concerned about the fate of our nation.
We cannot appeal to any of the above by resorting to slander/libel about people or by denigrating them based on physical attributes.
Our nation is in danger. We need every thinking person, left or right, physically perfect or not, gender-PC or not, totally engaged in working out how we can save our country. We are losing status vis-a-vis the rest of the world. Let’s make it a smooth process, not an ugly one.
You have given me a deep and unique experience on the net with your gospel selections. You’ve also inspired the Firedoglake community with your and the singers overall message here: we will see through these troubled times. We will do it together.
As a human being, there is hope for Byron York –
As someone whose livelihood comes from writing right wing screeds, not so much . . .
Do a Google on “Thomas A. Dorsey”. He’s the guy who basically invented gospel music. He started his musical career as Georgia Tom and was famous for the “dirty blues” he did with the likes of Ma Rainey and Memphis Minnie.
It’s really an amazing story.
Kos said in a thread a couple of days ago his next book will be on Libertarian Democrats. York and other conservatives should love that. So will I and that suddenly alarms me. *g*
Egregious, you are welcome to your opinion, but I do not share it. As I said, we will have to agree to disagree.
Re people in the opposition: Lincoln talked about people in the Confederacy, who were shooting at his army, yet he said that after the war we would all be one nation, and we needed to treat ‘the enemy’ as our brothers.
Intelligent people of any stripe are our sisters and brothers as we try to figure out how to keep our nation from disintegrating.
I hear a little drinking in vegas : )
egregious- I agree and it’s exactly the treatment I saw on the tele today. Actually inviting him to participate was perfection.
Oops. One of the people to address the RNC was a “husband” of a victim…I didn’t mean to call him a “broad”.
-GSD
First Patrick thanks for the article and second thanks to John Pearly Huffman and T- for pointing out the glaringly obvious. I do what I do because I’m a Christian not despite it. The same I know is true of Dubhaltach – he does what he does because he’s a Christian. It’s also why he’s a roaring red (that’s red as in socialist not red in the USA meaning of the word.)
But back to music. One of the seminal events of my life was hearing at a dark and terrible time in my childhood when I was almost consumed with rage, and fear, and hate, Tippett’s “Child of Our Time”
Tippett began to write it on the day World War Two began in 1939. It was his response to Kristallnacht the concerted attack upon German Jews which most regard as the start of the “Endloslung” – the Holocaust.
It’s an hour long, in three parts, and describes a world in the grip of a brutal physical and spritual winter. Tippett’s lyrics are stark and brutal:
He interspersed the stark cold harshness of the Oratorio with Negro Spirituals:
“Men were ashamed ofwhat was done.
There was bitterness and horror.
A Spiritual Of Anger (Chorus & Bass Solo)
Go down, Moses, way down in Egypt land;
Tell old Pharaoh, to let my people go.
When Israel was in Egypt’s land,
Let my people go.
Oppressed so hard they could not stand,
Let my people go.
“Thus spake the Lord, bold Moses said,
Let my people go.
“If not, I’ll smite your first-born dead,
Let my people go.
Go down, Moses, way down in Egypt land;
Tell old Pharaoh, to let my people go. ”
And finally redemption:
“I would know my shadow and my light,
so shall I at last be whole.
Then courage, brother, dare the grave passage.
Here is no final grieving, but an abiding hope.
[Tippett ends with a negro spiritual that I’m sure every American has heard at least once: ]
Chorus & Soli
Deep river, my home is over Jordan,
Deep river, Lord, I want to cross over into camp-ground.
O chillun! O don’t you want to go,
To that gospel feast,
That promised land,
That land where all is peace?
Walk into heaven, and take my seat,
And cast down my crown at Jesus’ feet.
Deep river, my home is over Jordan,
I want to cross over into camp-ground, Lord!
Deep river, my home is over Jordan,
Deep river, Lord, I want to cross over into camp-ground.
O chillun! O don’t you want to go,
To that gospel feast,
That promised land,
That land where all is peace?
Walk into heaven, and take my seat,
And cast down my crown at Jesus’ feet.
Deep river, my home is over Jordan,
I want to cross over into camp-ground, Lord! ”
Don’t let the fact that it’s “classical,” and that Tippet used the Oratorios of Bach and Handel as a model put you off. I guarantee you’ll be emboldendend. Religion at it’s best, or even just not at it’s worst, is a great power for good. Ask Martin Luther King.
Swing low, sweet chariot,
Comin’ for to carry me home!
I looked over Jordan and what did I see,
Comin’ for to carry me home!
A band of angels comin’ after me,
Comin’ for to carry me home!
Swing low, sweet chariot,
Comin’ for to carry me home!
If you get there before I do,
Comin’ for to carry me home,
Jess tell my friends that I’m acomin’ too,
Comin’ for to carry me home.
Swing low, sweet chariot,
Comin’ for to carry me home!
I’m sometimes up and sometimes down,
Comin’ for to carry me home,
But still my soul feels heavenly bound
Comin’ for to carry me home!
Confound it my comment has gone into moderation. Anyway I’m out of here it’s nearly 7 AM here and I’ve a busy day.
*poof*
mfi– hi and can’t you stay a moment?
mfi, thank you for what you wrote. Just to add that my work saving children’s lives in a former Soviet country is also based on my Christian belief…’Love your enemy’
A minute is literall what it’d have to be angie something in particular?
mfi can you hang around a little? We are in need of your wisdom.
And anyway, mfi, your long comment appears in its totality. Voila.
I just wanted to thank you for the other day/evening and your musings re the war. I always learn from you and appreciate your insight. So there, god nat!
And just one more thing, what do you think of Anders?
And I wanted to thank you for your perspective on the our war against Iraq. We need to hear what are the results of our actions, however harsh the news.
And that’s a good thing Egregious:
Again ask Martin Luther King:
The Almighty God himself is not the God just standing out saying through Hosea, I love you, Israel.
He’s also the God that stands up before the nations and said,
Be still and know that I am God, that if you don’t obey me, I will break the backbone of your power and slap you out of the orbits of your international and national relationships.
I think Anders has done a disservice to the Danish people, myself.
mfi, thank you for your perspective. Do you never sleep? Time zone=?? I must. *poof* :)
I’ve asked Erdla to reply to you angie:
Anders (assuming you mean Fgh Rasmussen) is the leader of the same party that was kollabo when the Germans invaded.
Quisling
Erdla
I will go see Erdla, then and thank you. I am angry with him yukking it up with w. over here, but I think it is much worse than that for the Danish people who were not used to such crass people.
I agree with others that the message of the Civil Rights era should be unifying and inspiring. It’s standing up for humanity regardless of background, atheist or religious, etc. Didn’t even non-religious civil rights persons thrown in jail find the “we shall overcome” songs inspiring because they were so transcendant? I am not Christian, but when I hear Ann Coulter attacking say, the ye old Episcopalian church, probably because of its same-sex friendly stance, I see red and turn green. Those are old friends.
Lieberman is whining on tv about attacks on his Dem creds, ch. 8. Not very convincing.
Mháircaish is in the shower Egregious. He has three hours of physio today followed by time on range getting his hand and eye back in his accuracy at the moment is not so good so he has *poofed* :-)
If you go to either of our sites you will see that he says time and time again that to be an empire the imperialist nation must first decivilise itself and that that is what America is doing. You will also see that he says imperial America has lost and will continue to lose for a long time.
Erdla forsvinder *poof*
God nat, Erdla!
Hey,
Welcome Patrick. Thanks for the tunes and great intro.
If anyone is still up, cspan has the panel on now.
I’m finally catching it, and I feel so much pride.
Well done!
Trex? Do you know a red headed 35ish woman named Panda from Athens?
Uh, yes, actually I have met her and her sister. Or maybe her sister in law. I can’t remember now.
Ah… TRex I see that you are back. You have new mail, TRex!!! ;)
Erdla– please comment more often!
Still watching CSPAN. Christie’s on.
Hi Christie!!!
You look great ! And soooo smaaaaaaat.
Trex- Sorry was back a couple of threads. We were roomies in San Francisco years ago. I have a painting of hers and think of her often. So do you see her around?
I can get her info for you, or give yours to her. I’m pretty sure I can track her down. Athens is not a big place, and I’ve lived here a while.
Email me at df530 at bellsouth dot net.
Thanks mail from acoolway in a few mins.
un-lurking for a moment here to chime in in support of egregious and taking the high road. I think it ok to poke fun at others on occasion – it was a competitive sport for me and my siblings growing up – but it is not a good idea to forget that the opposition is also human. If you treat them well and they still act like trolls, how much better does it make you look?
Heading for bed, kids. It’s late here on the east coast. It’s been a long, exciting day. I am going to sleep like a baby.
Good night, NSA! Good night, Michael Hayden!
And good night, firedogs.
speaking of physical attributes, I often wonder what the rest of you look like, how old you are, what kind of work you do, and in many cases I can’t tell male/female … FDL has become the place I most enjoy “hanging out” because there really is a better class of people here
egregious -
Byron York is our adversary. He stands four square against the progressive movement. He is a Bush administration apologist and one of Comstock’s most devoted minions.
If you wish to engage Republicans in political conversations in an attempt to learn and educate, feel free. But be aware that veins of fascism exist in the Republican party, and Byron York is one of the fascists. He (along with Comstock, Dick Cheney, George Bush and Bob Novak) is beyond hope.
Remember the serenity prayer.
Change what you can, and understand that there are certain people beyond your power to change. Byron is one of them. Don’t make Neville Chamberlain’s mistake.
Multiple amusements for me in this post: 1) running into other secret Athenian blog-obsessives on FDL; 2) finding out that the author of this wonderful homage to gospel music is partially responsible for some of the most brutal sonic pummeling my ears have ever had the privilege of absorbing (Music Hates You is the loudest damn thing to hit this town in years. A fine and necessary band, for those who don’t know them…yet. They’ve just released their first record, BTW); 3) discovering that said perpetrator of aural destruction is the brother of the guy whose classical music radio show I listen to almost every night (hey, TRex, those little introductions you do at the top of every hour about the music you’re going to play are really well done–elegantly written, informative, fun. Keep up the good, under-remunerated work!). Small town, small blog-world…
well.
I am back from practice, and boy, am I glad this is a written forum and not a spoken one.
“WHAT?? HOW’S THAT AGAIN??”
wg is damn right about one thing: Music Hates You is loud. Holy cow.
I love being in that band, but it’s hard on a man, sometimes.
As for gospel and grind-metal….
How does one balance the sacred and the scurrilous in one’s life?
It’s an interesting question…
Patrick, I enjoyed the songs, thank you.
I didn’t get from them what you wrote. I did not grow up with a religious indoctrination. I do enjoy the music. And I studied music. However, I believe that there must be shorthand in the music to make you write your interpretations – religious shorthand. I listened to almost all of the links you provided. For example,
>>”Never Grow Old” by Aretha Franklin (If you can listen to this and think of anyone you have lost, and not turn into a teary-eyed pile of mush, then you’re not human. I’m just saying.)
Most of my note was zapped… second and last try:
Patrick, I enjoyed the songs, thank you.
I didn’t get from them what you wrote. I did not grow up with a religious indoctrination. I do enjoy the music. And I studied music. However, I believe that there must be shorthand in the music to make you write your interpretations – religious shorthand. I listened to almost all of the links you provided. For example,
“Never Grow Old” by Aretha Franklin (If you can listen to this and think of anyone you have lost, and not turn into a teary-eyed pile of mush, then you’re not human. I’m just saying.)
I have lost many. This music didn’t touch on those losses for me a whit. This music didn’t move me to tears. It was as you said, “Just Saying,” too damn trite! And Vapid. Guess I’m not human… !!
Have YOU lost many? Does this music move you to the depths of your soul regarding those losses? Where is the abyss in this song? Where is the understanding that you must transform this loss into love? Where is the world turned upside down? … Are you really teary eyed?
I’m not. I would have enjoyed the song, but for your interpretations… which leaves me irked at you and the song for extreme superficial baloney and at me for thinking there would be deep substance here.
Love the music. Hate the redemption crap.
I feel like I did in English classes at college. I love writing, but then the prof wanted me to dissect every little detail in a story unti it died.
Again, I appreciate the music you’ve highlighted, but it doesn’t speak in the same tongues to me.
Everyone’s in dreamland.
I feel much better after watching the Plame Panel. Well done! If anyone deserves the moniker “Ambassador” it’s Joe Wilson. A GREAT American! I pulled my wife into to see the people that are part of my world everyday and shee appreciated it. I was literally shaking while listening to Larry Johnson. I hope he’s right about this “going to Cheney, at least.”
Everyone was so impressive. Bravo!
Patrick, thanks for sharing the music with us. I especially liked the Aretha Franklin recording, but who doesn’t like Aretha?
re this thread: I find this music as the perfect theme for what “WE” are trying to accomplish. I hope our challenge is nowhere as severe or hard or lengthy as what people of color had to overcome, and that gives me hope in what lay ahead!
I consider myself “godless” yet I feel the vitality and passion in this music. I’m not so certain I agree with the poster who said it all came from a strong belief in Jesus Christ. For some certainly, but not all. I think many African cultures celebrated their god(s) in a much more energetic fashion then the European model (in which I was raised). That came with them to America and stayed with them even as many became devout christians, but that does not mean that the old pagan rituals and devices that had helped them endure slavery were gone – it was a mix of the two.
synchronicity: I’m reading Louis Armstrong’s New Orleans by Thomas Brothers. Very enlightening how NOLA become the gumbo of peoples for which it is famous – the clash of civilizations that occured post-Civil War. Most of all, how the fervor of church music, the power of ragtime street music, brass and drum funeral parades, the honky tonk blues joints of working men and women, and the uppity strictness of Creole brass bands directly influenced the advent of jazz. Thus, the creation of one unique man named Louis Armstrong who in his lifetime played all of the styles above.
Thanks and good night.
1,176 DAYS AND THE KILLING GOES ON AND ON AND…
Jest a bit of diversion from the bread, circus and Super Bowl in Las Vageas…Jack Murtha and Nancy Pelosi have aimed a sharp stake at the heart of Rahm Emmanuel, Steny Hoyer and the Republicrats in the Democratic Party in the House of Representatives. Murtha has announced that he will run for Democratic leader against hei-apparent Steny Hoyer if the Dems win the house in November.
This is greast news and a great message to progressives out here that Pelosi and the progressive folks are tryin ta harness the discontent to marginalize the DINOs. Pelosi and her faction are gunna need help from the progressive blogosphere if real Democrats are to prevail after November. GET IT ON JACK!!
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION… THE FIGHT HAS JEST BEGUN!!
http://www.vanityfair.com/feat…..0606fege02
Very nice piece. I am printing it off for my father’s aide who love gospel and sings in her church choir.
Morning everybody. Apropos of nothing, this cracks me up:
http://tinyurl.com/8dswo
Morning, littermates.
Just experiencing one of my favorite phenomena of this feast: it doesn’t all-that-much matter if you can’t be here real-time, does it? Just roll in whenever, pick a thread, heap your plate — and lo ‘n’ behole, the news, views and spirit from hours or more earlier probably gonna taste as just-off-the-stove hot and tangy as they did for the first seating. No steam-table effect here!
So BRAVO to our Peerless Plame Panel — to Pach and siun — to TRex and Patrick — to egregious, sharkbabe, looseheadprop, and angie — to markfromireland, Erdla, John Casper, and AirportCat — to ALL our cast o’ 1,000s.
A special lotus AMEN all who argue that, YKos hangover or not, we gotta get ourselves organized, strategized, and CRACKING for Net Neutrality and against Arlen’s Amendment first thing Monday morning! Of all the horrors, I see those two threatening us most right now.
Were it any but we’uns fighting them, I’d be worried sick.
I think Murtha for speaker is a great idea. He would appeal to older and younger military voters, too, and men who would be reluctant to support Pelosi because she is a woman and from San Francisco. He is seen as a conservative person, so it takes the wind out of the sails of those who threaten the repub voters with Pelosi as speaker of the House. I also see him as someone who never sought to be in the limelight, but who has stepped up out of necessity to lead and speak out. Murtha conveys a real sense of motive being to do the right thing for the country and the military. I suspect the military people he knows are encouraging him, too.
While things are slow here, you’ve got time to nip over to Juan Cole’s, if you like. Yesterday and today: his usual finely-detailed analyses of what to make of Maliki’s final appointees and how they slid through, as well as his subject-closing comment on what he calls “the Yale Affair.”
I repost this again for anyone interested. The Swiftboating of the those 9/11 victims who had the tememrity to oppose Bush continues…
But notice there were no ad hominem attacks on these women, who addressed the Republican National Convention to support George W. Bush.
Notice too, there was no breastbeating a few weeks ago when “victim impact statements” were aired in the Moussaui trial….even Rudy Giuliani took the stand and he was simply a politician who had his dead politcal career revived by 9/11.
(Snip)
“New York, NY, Aug. 30 (UPI) — There was not a dry eye to be found in New York’s cavernous Madison Square Garden after surviving relatives of three Americans killed on Sept. 11, 2001, addressed the delegates as part of the conventions “A Nation of Courage” Monday night program.”
http://washingtontimes.com/upi…..-6195r.htm
-GSD
temerity…
More Iraqi blogging: Zeyad on “Death of a Salesman” in The Guardian blog “comment is free”
http://commentisfree.guardian……r.friendly
Sample chunk:
“Zarqawi had no respect for the sanctity of human life. He is purported to have beheaded, with his own hands, real people who had families, dreams and whole lives ahead of them. For that, I had no problem smiling ear-to-ear
when I looked on his bloody, maimed face. He will not be missed by any Iraqi.
“However, it is my opinion, and that of most Iraqis, that Zarqawi was a mere pawn. One that was useful for both the local Iraqi militant groups and for the US military, which painted him as a demigod behind every single bomb that detonates in Iraq from Mosul to Basra.
“I’m not going to wax conspiracy theories. The man was dangerous, indeed, but his power stemmed from the fact that the Iraqi insurgency needed a public face for their terror campaign to return to power, and Zarqawi, with his
quixotic delusions of crusaders and Zionists under every rock in the Arab world, was more than willing to assume this position. The Iraqi insurgency could easily blame all their atrocities on Zarqawi and the foreign mujahideen, while giving the (false) impression that they are actually a nationalistic force resisting occupation.
“The US, on the other hand, also needed a public for its enemy, and in order to lure the Iraqi insurgency into the political process, and not to alienate the Iraqi Sunnis, it had to paint its enemy as mostly a foreign one with limited support from a few radical Iraqis. Zarqawi was all so convenient for the role.
“The above is my own opinion. I have always believed, unlike some of my countrymen, that Zarqawi was real but also irrelevant. I have always thought that he was a kind of publicity agent employed by local Iraqi armed groups,
one that could bring in a steady flow of recruits (useful fools) from the Islamic and Arab world to carry out deeds that they did not want to be openly associated with.
“When that flow was interrupted, the insurgency started to rely more on car bombs, IEDs, and intimidation tactics, instead of the suicide bombers it depended on over the last three years. Instead of targeting ‘collaborators’ and
‘agents’, it engaged in a mass campaign of intimidation, mostly in western Baghdad, which took up a radical, Salafi nature. Women have been forced to observe Islamic dress and to wear the veil in about a dozen districts of
Baghdad; men are not allowed to shave or to wear goatees; shorts, jeans, western T-shirts, hair gel for men have all been prohibited; the sale of newspapers, ice, cigarettes, and the weirdest of all, falafel, are prohibited. Anyone and everyone is a target. It doesn’t really matter if you’re Sunni or Shia any more.
“Whatever it is that Zarqawi was planning, he succeeded. The civil war he so earnestly wanted has a life of its own now, and that is what Iraqi politicians should be concentrating on, instead of more military games. … “
And of course Salam Adil’s weekly roundup at
http://asterism.blogspot.com
catches all the Iraqi bloggers for once focused on a single story . . .
Kentucky Governor Ernie Fletcher pleads “not guilty”. Trial scheduled for Nov. 8th.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s…..TE=DEFAULT
-GSD
Heads up, SE-quadrant residents, Alberto may be coming to see us . . .
http://www.weather.com/newscen…..enter_news
… or, for more detail and speculation (if nothing else is all over your last nerve) . . .
http://www.wunderground.com/bl…..amp=200606
I just googled google and got 2,110,000,000 hits.
ccmask wins!
Patrick, when I was a kid my father used to blast Mahalia Jackson from the rafters, this is certainly one of the meaningfull post I’ve come across, thanks.
Must be too early – read “Alberto may be coming to see us,” and immediately thought “Gonzales.” Geez…paranoia runs deep…
Washington Journal is just finishing a segment on blogging. Probably be repeated later. They mentioned video blogging which is something new to my ears. But google brings up a bunch of these sites.
Yeh, Anne, and I can’t tell you which Alberto I’d rather NOT see more.
Beautiful post Patrick.
CNN: We now officially have Tropical Depression 1 of 2006.
Shee-it.
I have a book here about the role quilts played in the Underground Railroad.I’m trying to teach myself how to quilt(no mean feat I might add)and came across this little volume called Hidden in Plain Sight.
Quilts were made and hung outside as a map along the path of the Underground Railroad,different colors, patterns and stitches had different meanings.I never knew this before.Some families have passed this info along for generations,quietly.
Some of the old spirituals had messages in them too.A way to communicate right in front of the slave owners without being caught.
I’m such a white girl it’s scary,lol.I grew up in white suburbs,and it wasn’t til I left home(ok I got kicked out,but that’s a long tale) and got out on my own that I spent any time with anyone who wasn’t middle class and white.What an eye opener for a naive 17 yr old kid.It’s also how I found myself sitting in an all black church and being the only white person on several consecutive Sundays many years ago.
That experience was THE ONLY positive experience I’ve ever had in a church.I was accepted,loved,and damn well fed after church too.The minister called his flock his “chosen family”,all were welcome,cared for and taken care of.It’s really hard to describe the stark differences between a megachurch and a small church like this one.One is warm,the other seems vast and institutional.You don’t get lost in the crowd,no one will LET you get lost,lol.
The music between the two was quite different.One quite serious and unsmiling.The other full of life,rhythm and movement.And joy,that’s the thing I think is the biggest contrast.The joy,God wants you to be happy and celebrate,not be dead serious and unmoved.It’s funny,this little poor church did more for it’s community than the huge church with endless cash flow a few miles away.
I’m not a religious person,when I was growing up religion was used by my mother as an excuse to abuse and torment me.I have no birth family anymore,they’ve disowned me.I’m 46,I should be over that,but it’s hard to get past it sometimes.But as the years have passed,I re-learned something my dad’s mom lived by.God doesn’t live in a building.You don’t have to attend church to connect with divinity.Grandma never went to church,she hated being confined like that.But she was in every way the walking manifestation of Christianity.She fed people,took in her kid’s friends who had lousy home lives,collected clothes for poor school kids,and so much more.God to her was in her garden,the faces of children,the land she lived on and her home,that was her church.
Gospel music springs from the good places religion can take you,at least that’s what I get from it.If you can’t be moved by that,you need to check your pulse,you may need medical attention.
Labrador 107: These links to Gospel music cross the lines of being a believer in Christianity, no need to convert to it. What is potent and moving about these songs vibrates many souls and in this case the musical rewards alone surpass the redemption hooey. In relation to facing struggle we all have our methods and Gospel perhaps was a powerful one more about expressing the soul than a heady plan.
I’m so sorry to hear that you too had a toxic mother, AOB — and imagine my surprise to hear that her favorite weapon was Christianity.
The Jesus we heard about as children would blow a holy gasket over tricks like hers, wouldn’t he? I can’t see how she’d be happy in her faith if it makes her run off her own children.
You, on the other hand, found your way to that gracious little church just when you most needed some angels.
Well, since “age: 46″ has nothing to do with anything, you may never get over your birth family — but you’ll certainly never get over that little church. And that scene you can always revisit as needed, eh? There for you anytime, whether in flesh or in memory.
I believe the word for that is “blessing,” and I’m so glad that one remains yours.
Patrick, thanks for a this wonderful weekend diversion. I too love old Gospel music. In my sojourn among the dark hills I continually return to it for inspiration, solace, strength, and just plain-old joy.
An Angry Old Broad @ 132, our grandmothers sound like they were cut from the same cloth. I was rejected by my family also, because I am gay, (we have since reconciled on a don’t-ask, don’t tell basis; uncomfortable at times but blood is truly thicker than water for this old West Virginian). She welcomed any and all to her vast dining table and no one ever went without comfort while she was alive. She was and is my inspiration for living a meaningful life even though she hardly left her house for the last 25 years of her life. What a woman!
During her declining years I gathered a few of my college friends together one Sunday afternoon and we went to visit her and Grandpa. She laid out a groaning spread of simple but delicious homestyle cooking for us and we sang for our supper. An old, out-of-tune piano, a guitar, and 5 earnest young kids singing gospel favorites for hours. The odd thing was that these kids were all Catholic and she was a lifelong protestant. She listened earnestly to our Catholic songs and loved them. We attempted to sing her Protestant favorites and she was delighted, as were we.
Boundaries were crossed, fears and suspicions laid aside, and respect and admiration were the result. She had never met a Caholic in her life and I watched her take her lifelong prejudices and toss them away without hesitation as she nodded in time to the music.
She loved her gospel music and we were all transformed. I still see the tears in her eyes and feel the palpable love emanating from her face. She never said much, but then, she didn’t need to.
I would like to recommend “His Eye Is on the Sparrow/Swing Low, Sweet Chariot” from “Bubblin’ Brown Sugar” as one of my personal favorites for getting me up when I am way down low. Another favorite is “Looking For A City” by the Happy Goodmans.
I may not be welcome in many churches because of my lifestyle but this music welcomes me no matter what. And they can’t take that away from me anymore than they can take away that unconditional love my Grandma filled me with my entire life. It is a deep well that will sustain me until the end. Even through the Dark Ages of the current political climate!
Peace and love to all the Firepups! Priscilla
Greetings:
I’m ancient compared to most who read/respond here, which isn’t all that bad a thing. Two observations…one musical, one not directly so.
I too love Gospel Music. When I was in Chicago in college in the early ’60s there was a black-owned FM station, and every Sunday from way early to way late that station broadcast live from one black church after the other. Mahalia Jackson was only the tip of the iceberg. There were artists whose names I never learned, but who sang with grace and passion and could bend a note with the best of them. Thanks for the post which brought back so many memories of my youth. For those of you who want to experience some of this, see if you can latch onto the documentary “Say Amen, Somebody”. You’ll love it.
The gospel tradition isn’t dead or antique, by any means, either. If Sweet Honey in the Rock comes anywhere near you, drop everything and go hear them. Get their CD’s too. All of them! Visit their website, http://www.sweethoney.com/ for information and tour dates.
Here’s the not so musical comment. Being an old guy, my sense of religion and politics was shaped by a different set of persons of faith, and among them were many I count as personal heroes, not only Martin Luther King Jr. about whom I see reference after reference above, but also persons like the Berrigan brothers, Sr. Corita, Bishop James Pike, the recently deceased William Sloan Coffin, A. J. Muste (who is barely remembered now, but who was the voice of Christian Pacifism sixty years ago), and many others, as well. In the days before mega-churches in the suburbs and televangelism on cable tv, these advocates of justice were the public face of religion in the public sphere. They got the press then that the Falwells and Robertsons get today. But then the mainstream media didn’t proselytize for the religious right as it does now. None of these men and women felt their main job was to proselytize, and all of them were reformers of note and sympathetic to the same causes which readers of this blog espouse. I guess what I’m suggesting is that regardless of faith or non-faith, leave room in the discussion for those who advocate justice, equality, and community. Many of us detest what is done in the name of things in which we believe as much as anyone else does.
This beautiful music defines the sounds of the South which I grew up in before the extreme commercialization of music, the walkmans and now ipods which rob people of finding their own voices in their own heads. Growing up, one heard music from dark-skinned folks on the street, singing to themselves as they walked along, waited for buses, worked in gardens and yards, selling fruit and vegetables from mule-driven carts through the neighborhood. I’ve always loved it, because, although I am white-skinned, it is part of my identity, too, because I feel it so deeply whenever I hear it: it’s part of my history, too.
I see that the source is the Univerity of Georgia, where I worked for my two degrees in the 1960’s. I was there when they integrated, with great stife and resistance, but ultimately, success. It was a happy day, for me, when it happened.
We are all human beings who have suffering for many reasons in common. The music reminds us of our common suffering. The burden of being from an oppresor class was beginning to be lifted. I hope that doesn’t sound patronizing, because I was ashamed of the way my elders talked and acted toward people I felt empathy for. I’m grateful the worst of those days are over, but there is a long way to go, yet.
Priscilla made me cry.
Wow, you’re lucky I’m already married TRex–otherwise I might be coming after you! Classical music, cats, books, London–my ideal man! ;)
Oh Angie #25–”Fare thee well” is one of my FAVORITE songs of all time–I was in a pretty good choir in high school, and still have a recording of it with an AMAZING soloist . . . thanks for bringing it in!
P.S. another amazing gospel song is, “My God is a Rock.” Gives you shivers.
When we all go to Yearly Kos next year we can give a concert of gospel music :)
#114 Sharkbabe Do you live in the Seattle area? Archie McPhee’s is a must-visit.
Their latest “crack-me-up” innovation is those rubber wrist bands in various dun shades, with “Ennui,” “Apathy,” the seven deadly sins, and other amusing words . . .
#132 Old Broad: Have you read “The Secret Life of Bees”? Fabulous book. Your moving post reminded me of it because it’s about a young white girl who runs away from home and ends up living with some black women. Really excellent!
Wow, thanks so much. A native New Orleanian now retired, I always found religion in the NO Jazz Fest’s Gospel Tent. Of course I lost it again at the R&B Stage.
dancinfool- the link up at #3 is a classic soul/gospel site that is re-releasing and cataloguing some very rare stuff. the first planned lp is by an old new orleans area group called “family undergroud” that they contacted and restored the original master tapes. stunningly good music that really hasn’t seen the light of day outside of the small communities and churches it was released in. i really find myself consistently amazed at the virtuosity of these small church groups…
Oh, Patrick! Thank you for this! I have seen you and T. Rex over at Shakes Sis’ blog, it’s always great to see you both around the blogosphere :=) Thanks again for this terrific post!
Cheers,
GW
Fabulous, Patrick. I was running around Mandalay Bay barefoot last night when the post went up because my feet gave out but I just wante to stop by and tell you what a fabulous job you did. Bravo. The links are genius…
Patrick,
Just scrolled down to see your post, and am now sitting here listening to them one by one.
Thanks. Just thanks, man.
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An Angry Old Broad >”…as the years have passed,I re-learned something my dad`s mom lived by.God doesn`t live in a building.You don`t have to attend church to connect with divinity…”
Towards the end of “The Color Purple” there is one of the finest statements of this I have ever found; almost exactly as you wrote it
Thanks to Patrick for the links which I don`t have time to follow at the moment but I will come back to them
“Our ignorance is not so vast as our failure to use what we know.” – M. King Hubbert
Leisure Guy was right!