
As many of you know, I recently lived out every publisher’s fantasy. I got to call Glenn Greenwald and tell him that his book, How Would a Patriot Act? would debut this week on the New York Times list.
This ranking, in and of itself, is not what rocks my world. The prestige factor I can take or leave. I am not in book publishing because I want to sit in an ivory tower or a Manhattan skyscraper and pat myself on the back as I decree what you should read. Frankly, I’d just as soon save the trees, and be drinking margaritas on a beach somewhere. “George who?” is what I dream of saying. I’m only publishing books right now because, like Glenn, I felt compelled to use whatever talent and knowledge I could muster to defend my country. And as long as the Congress, courts and media continue to fail miserably at keeping this president accountable to the people of the United States, we must all answer the call to right the course of this nation.
What does excite me about this NYT nod, however, is that Glenn’s ideas will now have a fair shot of being heard—perhaps even a shot at impacting the national debate over just how radical the Bush administration has become, and what we can do to bring the country back from brink of despotism.
We’ve all pulled off an amazing, collaborative feat. Getting a book developed, written, edited, published and distributed in three months was our charge. You all then made it an immediate bestseller. That’s the good news. The bad news? We’re not done yet. The ideas in the book still need to be introduced to more Americans. The new challenge is to keep the book front and center, so that mainstream media outlets are forced to devote space and time to Glenn’s insights and analysis, to allow for a robust public debate on the crisis we all face. If anything is to change, more Americans need to know the objective facts about just how extremist our federal government has become, and what is at stake.
On Sunday, FDL hosted a wonderful book salon about How Would a Patriot Act? and we started to discuss ideas for a citizen-led, collaborative marketing campaign to drive Glenn’s ideas into the national discourse. Jane invited me back to continue the discussion. So, here I am—grateful and inspired. Ideas for this campaign all came out of Sunday’s discussion, and I look forward to your further suggestions and improvements.
The Patriot Campaign
- Blog project to push NYT, WaPo, LATimes, Time, Newsweek and other major dailies and weekly journals to review HWAPA.
- “Inviting” local and regional dailies to review HWAPA as a net-roots project. Would provide a nice feedback loop, because we can keep score of which of the dailies in the U.S. have published a review and which we have to “invite” even more cordially. Note: Many newspapers hire freelancers to write book reviews — the net-roots can call on the journalists among us (former and otherwise) to write reviews of Glenn’s book, which can then be offered to the newspapers. It makes the editors’ jobs that much easier.
- Email campaign to push Olbermann, Daily Show, Colbert Report, Today, Meet the Press, Hard Ball and Oprah to invite Glenn on as a guest, to discuss his transpartisan ideas on what must be done to protect our Constitution.
- Roots Project, perhaps with libertarian group(s), to deliver copies of HWAPA to members of Congress.
- Citizen reviews on book retail and review sites like Amazon, Barnes&Noble, Borders, Powell’s, BookSense, BookBrowse, BooksWeLike, etc.
- Donate books to libraries.
Tag! You’re it. Let’s run with this thing. We can make sure Glenn’s ideas get a fair hearing, and pave the way for more new voices and ideas to be heard. WE can tell media what THEY should be covering. And just maybe save our democracy, to boot!
George who?



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Good to see you again Jennifer!
Great idea about donating books to the library. I noticed even the Seattle Public Library has no listing for Glenn’s book–now I can take care of that myself! :)
Here’s another one to add to your list.
Write letters to the editor, and make reference to HWAPA as a part of your letter. The occasion for the letter could be anything – Iraq, Plame, or some local political event – but tie your comments in to HWAPA. It might be “This is a great example of what Glenn Greenwald was talking about in . . . ” or “This is what Glenn Greenwald is warning us about in . . .”
The New York Review of Books, as fine a place as it might be, is not read by everyone. On the other hand, lots and lots of folks read the local letters to the editor, just to see what the neighbors are riled up about. If HWAPA starts to get some traction there, then we’re really making progress.
Enough well written letters might even prompt a book review editor to go looking for it. “Hmmm . . . what’s this book that folks are talking about?”
OT but just as important: I finally saw Al Gore’s movie this week. It is fantastic! I was a bit worried it might be boring, or depressing, but it is neither. It is entertaining and inspiring. It is a must-see. It will change the way you think AND act.
I particularly recommend taking children over the age of 10. This will affect them much more than it will affect us.
Oh, and try and persuade anyone that wouldn’t normally go to this movie to go! It’s really far too important an issue to let people just live in denial. Go for it!
*ilson, I’ll see your Zenker, and raise you a Franklin and a Bache!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B…..lin_Bache_(Journalist)
Long live the Aurora!
Hi Jennifer –
Insty book publishing bright idea of the day —
Whiskey Bar — the Best of Billmon.
Whether the latest to the oldest or the other way around, Billmon is one of the best writers on the internets.
Interesting idea?
Jennifer, you are such an inspiration to me and I love the way you write.
Would love to join you and all progressives on a beach somewhere in this beautiful country muttering into your newest publication, George who?
whew– that did not come out as I wanted it to– I want to mutter George who? while reading whatever it is you decide to publish after we are all free from this terrible nightmare.
That’s a really good additional idea, peterr (at #6).
I’m 2/3′ds of the way through Greenwald’s book, and it’s excellent. Especially with the inclusion of such up-to-date sources. Plus, he does a great job of bringing together non-partisan issues that show how the Bush administration is abusing our system, and how the administration claims authority but is afraid to face any open challenge.
Not to belittle the subject, but Bush is like a pampered bully.
Reporting in from Vegas — sorry for the front page mess, we’re working on it.
Pach sure is a handsome devil.
Great post, Jen!
Jennifer–terrific work bringing this book to fruition in such a short period of time. Having it go to #1 on amazon is sweet.
Would like to comment on each of the 6 items. My attempt to do this was eaten alive by some gremlin. Will retry.
Citizen marketing – I missed last Sunday’s salon but I like the ideas that emerged. I addition to – or in lieu of – the donation of books to libraries, I encourage everyone with a library card to go online and request Glenn’s book. If you patronize more than one library, so much the better.
You can go a step further and make it easy for others to do the same: Post the “request a book” link to your local library, along with Glenn’s book particulars to your local community’s progressive listserv(s) and/or blog(s).
It’s my experience that libraries will order additional copies when the wait for existing volumes is significant.
waving to the Jane Hamsher of the Left – wishing you a kick ass YKOS ! Oh,and you can forget that ol “stays in Vegas” thingy
we are receiving the most excellent of care
Hiya Jane– have fun!
1. Reviews in major papers. Do we need contacts there, or is the idea to blogswarm? I’m thinking honey here not flies.
2. Local and regional papers, need freelancers. Calling all fdl writers and wannabe writers! We need you! It would be helpful to have links posted for those of us who are
lazyin need of motivation to send these out.to be continued. heehee my first strikeout
3. Email TV programs. Again need links, suggest providing one per day over the requisite period of time for maximum effect. Lots of us are ready to jump in if you make it easy.
4. Roots delivery to Congress: we are the experienced Congressional book deliverers. Just say the word and we are all over this.
to be continued.
egregious — you hit a strike-out home run!!!
5. Citizen reviews on amazon etc. Again we need links, one per day. How hard can this be? If I can do it, truly anyone can. For inspiration about a total amateur jumping in, see the first spotlight review on amazon, and thanks in advance for recommending it with a yes :)
6. Library project: how? Am VERY interested in this. I’ve only done overseas book projects. How does it work, do you just order a book and arrange to have it mailed to library x? Is it necessary or advisable to alert the library in advance? Ready for marching orders.
Sorry to split up but my original attempt at the whole 6 wouldn’t even preview let alone submit. Thanks Jennifer and YAY Glenn for this terrific book!!
BTW–thanks SO MUCH for all the postings from YKos! Please keep ‘em coming–then if we sit under a heat lamp and inhale the contents of a vacuum cleaner bag we can pretend we’re REALLY there! LOL
Oscarmom– ROTFLMAO!
Oscarsmom — that is after you dump your purse into the garbage disposal…
egregious–re: donating a copy to the library:
At the Seattle PL site I filled out the form to request the book, and in the comments section told them I’d be willing to donate a copy if they would specify the kind they need–is there a special library binding they require, etc.. Hopefully someone will get back to me soon.
I’ve donated lots of books to the library over the years.All I’ve ever had to do is fill up some boxes and take them in the front door to the front desk.They’ll take them,or at least in my county they do.No fuss,no frills,no forms to fill out,lol.
If one were to run into trouble at a smaller branch,I’d try the main library in your county system.
lmao @ Oscarmom
#21
Susan Gegregious – nice review!*ilson–not sure if you are referring to the sound of the change hitting the disposal or the money going down the drain or both, but I’ll have you know I won a whole *thirty-five bucks* in Vegas once (well, it was more than I’ve ever won in any other place!) :)
Be careful about donating books to the library — the Denver Public Library accepts book donations, and then sells them for a buck apiece.
For something on the best seller list, they might add it to their collection — but make sure what will happen to it before donating.
NOT the Susan G who posts on kos.
arrrrrrrrrrrgh! Ann Coulter tells a infatuated Lou that she is the right wing Mencken or Mark Twain.
ptooey!
good god, the woman has no shame. no wonder she’s so high on W.
Satan’s Chambermaid comparing herself to Mark Twain? That’s rich.
I still love the Email Jack Cafferty quoted on CNN: the death of Zarqawi just means one less marriage prospect for Anne Coulter…
Ann Coulter needs a rhinestone grill.
Hey Jane, we left a bowl of breadcrumbs on the table for you!
Oscarmom – that is so funny – and right on. Upon landing at the airport last night, i went to the shuttle stand (walk all the way down the concourse/casino, turn right for taxis, left for shuttles) paid my $10 for a round-trip ticket and stood in the hot diesel fumes til the shuttle arrived. And *ilson, you can tell my purse is going through the grinder.
Before catching up here, do I ever wanna thank our kind angie, for lighting the way of those marooned downstairs on up here!
And may I suggest that we weave us a Super-Duper FDL Hi-Test Safety-Rope until we’re sure today’s website hinkiness is resolved? For the time being, would anybody announcing “new thread,” please include its URL too? Thanks!
Second, if somehow you earlier missed Muzzy’s
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ent-134370
– well, word-up: don’t wanna make that mistake twice.
I gotta go deal with supper for a bit, so later, you taters (and you beans, you tomatoes, you pork chops, and any ol’ lurking cornpone, you too).
Yesterday’s Vanity Fair piece on the Niger Forgeries is a great read, and a must for all plamologists, if you haven’t seen it yet, check it out.
Anne “man” C. is a shock jock that revels in attention, and the worst possible thing you can do to her is ignore her.
Hi Jennifer: I travel with several copies with me all the time and never come home with any still in the car. Does the ABA have a bookclub or even an online Bookstore? Also, I’d be up for contributing to send over copies to the newly minted ABA panel tasked with reviewing the Bush signing statements. Didn’t someone mention trying to get Neil Young or Springsteen or the Dixie Chicks to link onto the book at their sites? Regarding the libraries, feedback I’ve heard is grumbling from them as, interestingly enough, they have already been pressured by FBI to give over info and they’re quite happy to take the book and would like 2nds “please” as just one isn’t enough per library! I’ve left them in Dr’s office, laundromats, coffee shops and never been shooed out. Bottom line, there is no place that this book doesn’t belong.
Props to the FDL techies – the front page seems to be working again!
Mad props.I was in THE TWILIGHT ZONE earlier.
Couldn’t figure out where everyone was.EPU to the first magnitude.
Jack Cafferty on CNN is ripping into Arlen Specter for talking loudly but doing nothing about government spying on its citizens…
Hello, again. It’s 4:00 and we broke into regional caucuses. i’m in the NorthEast one – we’re introducing ourselves, very much like an AA group. We threw out a moderator and having a good time.
As a librarian at a public library, I can tell you that we’ll be getting HWAPA because of it’s presence on the NYTimes bestseller list. That may well be true for lots of libraries.
Also, I do second the advice of checking on a library’s gift policy, as we sell most stuff that comes in “over the counter.”
I would imagine that most libraries wouldn’t need too much convincing to buy a bestseller …
And George who? George Washington!
ls
Here’s another thought or three, all related to colleges, universities, and other locations of higher education:
Journal editors – be they for law journals, polisci journals, communications journals, history journals, etc. – all have places for reviewing books appropriate to their discipline. If you (or someone you know) is an academic in a field to which HWAPA is appropriate, try to get it reviewed in your/their journals. Some journals have their own in-house reviewers; others consider reviews submitted by readers for later publication. If your/their journal is in the latter group, write the review and send it in!
Professors: lots of books and flyers for books cross your desks every day, far more than you can even think about purchasing. If you haven’t heard of a given book, a common sorting device is to think “have any of my professional colleagues mentioned this book at all?” Thus, the more HWAPA gets mentioned in passing conversations from one professional to another – in the hallway, via emails, professional weblogs, or even at conventions in (for example) Las Vegas – the more likely it is that the book will get better traction.
Which leads to syllabi. If you’re teaching a class for which HWAPA is appropriate, put it on the syllabus. Make it required, put it on reserve, or list it under “additional readings,” but put it in there somewhere. Then, of course, put the syllabus online for the Google search engines to latch on to . . .
Glenn might even put a links to reviews/syllabi on his website. Hint, hint.
These are long-range targets. They won’t get you 1000 copies sold next week. They will, however, shape the discussion for the next year.
Go Jack!
OT – but in keeping with my theme for today *g*
Rawstory has this story up about Rep Miller trying to introduce Northern Marianas etc. legislation now that Delay is gone. He describes the Abramoff/Delay connection (leaving out Ashcroft though) as a “protection racket”
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0607.html
ls #47:
Librarians are the guides to knowledge. You rock!
al-Scooter:
You’re understating things a bit @ 50:
Librarians rule the world.
(No, I’m not a librarian, nor related to any librarians. I just owe a bunch of them the better part of my soul for their kindness during my doctoral work!)
Good for Glenn, and Jennifer: you rock on, woman!
OT, but very weird thing – the site would not refresh for me today. The Zarqawi thread kept coming up at the top, and none of the other posts after it appeared until just now. I thought the site had just been abandoned for the day because of YK. Did this happen to anyone else? Just wondering.
leslie- on and off all day
Leslie– oh yes and worse– we were locked out in the Vegasphere for what seemed hours today.
ck@9:
A Billmon book–fuck yeah, I second that! Give Digby a book deal too, while yer at it.
Whoever is moderating, poor watertiger is stuck in the Zarqawi thread saying not able to log on– I left a lifeline to this thread…
I must apologize to you Firedoggies. Our technicians are switching equipment to cover Las Vegas this weekend and in the process we brought down half of the Internets. Stuff happens!
Jennifer, congrats to you and Glenn, and I second ck’s #9 about a Billmon/Whiskey Bar compilation. That would be very nice indeed.
If people are serious about the 50 state strategy and local politics, wouldn’t it be good to connect the local democratic organizations with this book as a guide?
I’m supposed to be on a book diet – need to read all that I have here first – but was trying to justify getting it over here and donating it. Would it be beneficial to other countries (this one actually has a functioning democracy) too?
Eureka Springs, angie, thanks. I’m using a new computer here, so I had to wonder if it was just me. Hope everything resolves soon.
I gotta be sure to set my TiVo tonight for whatever coverage C-SPAN does – Lord willing they’re going to cover the Plame panel!
Okaayyy…
I’ll spring for ten more copies when my credit billing cycle rolls on the 12th…
Zennurse is here! What a hip looking chick! Tall, slim, with a sharp haircut. A vermont beef-farmer maker of The War Tapes -Justin Krebs of Drinking Liberally just got huge applause – Debtors Prison from Philly manager of Barnes&Nobles who makes sure certain books get prominant spot – from candidateofthemonth.org (?) – one from CT said all other CT bloggers bustingass for Lamont (big applause) passed out “The Kiss” buttons (Bush and Lieberman) – Unstable Isotope is here -
Video and broadband services have been discussed in the House via c-span all day. Is this a neutrality slip?
Thank you for your hard work, Jennifer.
Different library systems no doubt have different policies, so it’s good to check out the library system in your area. Our library system accepts books for two purposes: 1) for the Friends of the Library to resell at a modest price to help fund the library – old romance novels, ten-year-old John Grisham’s, out-of-date almanacs; and 2) newer books for the circulating collection.
If you donate to a library, make sure your copy is going into the circulating collection. Save the receipt(s) when you buy copies of the book, and when you donate to your library, you should ask for (and they should offer) a receipt documenting your donation. Staple your purchase receipt to the library donation receipt, stash in your tax file, and when it comes time to do your taxes, smile when you include donated copies of How Would A Patriot Act in your itemized charitable deductions.
Think also of donating copies to the libraries of colleges, universities and community colleges. I’ve donated copies to the small, but much-used libraries at several of the larger retirement communities around here.
And, as others have posted, I just carry a copy with me on my daily pedestrian rounds.
I’m going to enjoy watching this climb up the bestseller list!
whoo-hoo, according to cspan’s website — 3 will carry it:
11:00 AM EDT
6:45 (est.) LIVE
Forum
2006 YearlyKos Convention
YearlyKos Convention
The beginning and end of this live program may be earlier or later than the scheduled times.
>>>>>>>>>>
Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA)
FROM LAS VEGAS
YearlyKos Convention
The internet blog, Daily Kos, will host the YearlyKos Convention in Las Vegas, NV. This is the first convention of its kind bringing together bloggers & elected officials. Participants will include keynote speaker Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA), bloggers, Ambas-
sador Joe Wilson, and others.
FRI., 11AM ET, NETWORK TBD
and dont forget: if you dont get CSpan3 — it’s available for free on the Internets !
Thanks Kathryn!
Another distribution idea is the “catch and release” method of free book distribution. See the website for bookcrossings at http://www.bookcrossing.com/
The idea is to enroll book copies and leave them in places where others will pick them up, and possibly record the book’s journey on the website.
I haven’t used the method, but have heard good things about it. Someone here might know more.
oh noooo not cspan 3. Calling direc way now.
Maybe the House and Senate will cut short their nonsense, do nothing, rubber stamp republican agenda and go home early and then cspan can switch over to important stuff.
on the weekends, CSpan2 is used for BookTV but CSpan1 is available for political events … I’ve watched some great DC progressive demonstrations on CSpan1 in my living room…
for that matter, Friday Hill Sessions are usually brief (if existent) so members can get back to the Districts…
Will there be an archive of YearlyKos streams, either audio or video? I can’t be in front of my computer for Plameology — and don’t want to miss it!
Also, if you are planning to tune in somewhere, remember that the times are all Pacific, so we in the East can sleep in…..
Thanks for the blow-by-blow Kathryn! You go girl! :)
Every time you fly somewhere, leave a copy at the airport while you are waiting for your plane. I used to do it all the time in a previous life when I traveled for my job. I left at least 5 copies of Wealth of Nations and Way of the Peaceful Warrior in airports a few years ago. I am sure people read them who would not have ordinarily know they existed, let alone bought them. I would write in the front cover “Read it on the plane and leave it at the terminal.”
all CSpan programming is available from them later on DVD
cbl comment on previous post of collateral damage in Zarkawi killing. It would be especially and sickeningly cynical if an already dead Zarkawi’s relatively unscathed body had been planted ex post facto the bombing.
From Las Vegas – a young lady here from the Ukraine who said she has seen this before, thinks our orange badge lanyard is cool, said she is tired of leaving so she is here to help make things right.
Breaking into states now.
Checking in from Vegas. . .
Jane, Christy, RGB, Chrsity’s husband, Taylor Marsh and I just had some snacks in the food court here at the Riv. Let’s just say, this is not your desination eatery, this place. But the company was excellent.
Taking a little break now in the room before the FDL caucus in less than an hour. PST is weird. My body says it’s 8:00PM, and I’m not 23 years old anymore. I’ll be tired later. Here’s a secret about me: two drinks and I’m verrrry sleepy. That’s another big difference fmor me in my 20’s. I have not had any cocktails yet but will after this evening’s keynote.
There are a lot of people I have yet to meet. The FDL folks should hopefully make a good showing at the caucus and I look forward to seeing them all. I’m sure I’ll lose track of names, though.
We saw Brain Keeler earlier, aka, NYBri, a former FDL regular who now is running for a state seat in NY. I hope to interview him for the blog sometimes soon, and have him stick around to chat with commenters: he’s one of you who now is running for office. How cool is that?
I’ll check in again later. . .
For those of us who can’t be there,
http://yearlykos.org/
Jennifer … some great ideas and I figured I could do the library order immediately so imagine my surprise when I found that four Snohomish County, WA libraries have the book. All copies are either checked out or on the hold shelves so it’s got to be really recent.
I’m about 1/2 way through my own copy which, when complete, I will share with the next reader on my list.
Thanks pach for the rundown!!
VERY cool to hear about future lawmaker firedoggies. If only they all were!
It’s cool to think we can make a difference. Please keep the updates coming!
Thank you Pach!
Wow–I didn’t know the keynote speaker was Harry Reid! You see, they ARE listening! As much as the MSM likes to marginalize the blogosphere, we ARE having an impact. So there. Hmph.
Pach, you da man.
Are there broadband connections in the breakout rooms?
It would be great if one of our esteemed colleagues could keep us hoi polloi posted real time.
The Riv is definitely the economy class of Vegas. So we got a decent deal for the conference. But you know the place is trashy when the hookers have to beg, and you want to toss them your loose change and run like hell.
YKos special request: if anyone is attending the Science panel with Stephen Darksyde and General Clark Friday am, I’d love a review!
I thought the Riviera was chosen by lefty bloggers because of its French sounding name…
Nix!
Greenwald!
Sorry, I’m late to the party.
Pach,
“The Riv is definitely the economy class of Vegas.”
LOL The all you can eat seafood buffet at the Rio is EXCELLENT at about $40 ; )
I think the breakout rooms are rigged for wireless, but then again I’ve heard the signal is weak. I have not tried; been leaving my laptop in the room so I can, you know, like, talk to people.
My room, like many here, overlooks a courtyard pool area. I’m a bunch of floors up, but they’re all yelling down there like some scene out of Old School. But I figure later on I’ll sleep right through it. Last conference I was at, my room was right against the elevator shaft, and I could hear elevator gears right through the wall, all the time. Slept through that, too. I sleep like a rock.
Pach, if you’re still around, do you want to take Late Nite on Saturday, or would you like one of us relief pitchers to handle it?
Since most people probably have nothing else to occupy themselves with tomorrow – (!!!) – Glenn Greenwald will be a guest Friday 10 – 11 a.m. PST on KALW-FM (San Francisco public radio) 91.7 FM – Your Call program:
“Our Friday media roundtable: How are bloggers changing journalism?”
(Special Blog edition from YKos)
there’s a web-cast link their home page.
Keith O just pointed out that the death of Zarqawi is the 939th turning point in Iraq for the Preznit …
TRex. Nah, I’ll do my Late Nite Saturday. I’m sure I’ll have something to say by then. And even if I don’t, I have some cool YouTube footage I like. Heh. Seriously, I may just do a bit of a report from Saturday’s breakfast, who knows.
Trex: or relief catchers – so to speak …
*ilson, TRex: settle down, girls.
The “middle threads” between Zarqawi and this one, have been left a lot out of the loop.
Leslie – everyone is getting the Zarqawi thread. You can scroll through comments and get links to these newer threads, or go to the top, after you open comments, and click on the “next” topics. If you hit home, you are back to Z.
I think someone in intel is celebrating Zarqawi and they fixed it so we aren’t allowed to ignore it. *g*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Continuing my OT thought thread from Spectre thread through:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..t/asection
A Safavian story I liked bc it pulled in Tyco.
Safavian denies giving Abramoff insider info re: Tyco. Tyco was being put on the suspension list (from Govt contracts) in 2003. Prosecutors have alleged that Safavian gave Abramoff inside information on an internal debate at GSA over how to handle suspensions, as well as advice on what arguments Tyco could make to appeal the decision.
But guess what? This is a case where both sides agree that there are no state secrets! Go figure when that will ever happen again. ;-) “That was not a state secret at GSA,” he said under cross-examination by Zeidenberg
[frolic and detour]Btw, Tyco’s general counsel while it was using Abramoff for lobbying (including lobbying on tax legislation) was Timothy Flanigan. Flanigan worked on the Bush v. Gore case with Ted Olson, then worked with Addington et al early in the Executive branch power grabs and detainee policies, then went to Tyco. Prior to Bush v. Gore, he earned $800,000 as a consultant to the Federalist Society to write a bio on Burger, and had worked in Office of Legal Counsel during Bush I.
With Comey leaving, Flanigan was nominated for the Deputy AG slot, but things “stalled” with questioning re: Abramoff and the detention policies. Maybe a little bit, too, bc there were two ex-Tyco executives being prosecuted, with the prosecution being overseen by the deputy AG’s office. [/frolic and detour]
Safavian coming back up in a few days for closing arguments (weird scheduling). The article link above mentions other Abramoff associates who have pleaded – Kidan, Scanlon, Rudy and Volz.
[more frolic]Rudy’s plea was particularly interesting, since Delay’s announcement he was leaving Congress came so soon thereafter, and since disclosures about inquiries surrounding Delay’s spouse and Rudy’s close associate, Ed Buckman, are getting attention.
Buckman is a link tieing the Abramoff scandals to the Cunningham scandals, via Wilkes. Buckman lobbied for Brent Wilkes. [/frolicked out]
Anyway – just braiding the strings – like those camp projects where you make key rings. No keys to put on the rings. But with all those strings, and some of the Plame team also handling Safavian, you just wonder if there may be a days, someday, to tie them all up together. That is what I remember, anyway, about making that *%^&$@*! keyring. It’s figuring out when and how to stop the braid once you get going.
I like baseball. Am I missing something here? :~)
Pach et al.- I had a nice long phone conversation with Matt O. earlier- he sent me his cell phone number, and I caught up with him just after he went through airport security on his way to Vegas. Never spoken to him before! Hope you all get to meet him. He will make it in time for the FDL meet-up. He sounds thrilled to be able to make the trip.
While in Vegas,
Do the buffet at the Bellagio. Be sure and go at lunch though. Food is the same and about half the price for dinner.
Then swing on over to the Double Down Saloon for some local color (on Paradise near the gay bars). House drink is a concoction known as “Ass Juice.”
Also, Ellis Island has ridiculously cheap microbrews and a hilarious range of talent during karaoke. Mostly locals there.
Roll them bones…
punaise: its all about the bats and balls …
cspan net neutral arguement now. directv never heard of cspan3… even for $100 a month
hitchin’ to vegas or a city hotel w/high speed lol
punaise: I can show you better than I can tell you.
I get C-Span3 free as a part of my basic “digital tier” on cable…
I’d better head down to the caucus now – ta ta!
You know it’s some slippery law when both sides make the same arguements. Markey ammendment and some other.
NSA Supervisor at 4:30
Thanks for the Public Service Announcements
LMAO.
Mary, thanks for another great post. Thanks for reminding us about how close Timothy Flanigan, Tyco lawyer, almost came to being an assistant Attorney General of the U.S.
According to wikipedia, Flanigan is a Mormon and has 14 children.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Flanigan
heh heh. I’ll leave the “baseball” to you fellas.
I love all the work done at FDL– and own a substantial North American book distribution company with a decidedly liberal bent. Please email me! Good Luck!
Mary -
At it again….thanks for the update/insight/history- wouldn’t miss it for anything. These guys must be Pastafarians; like every strand is connected to the rest of the insidious entrprise.
Maggie @ 112
don’t see a link or an e mail addy in your post, sounds like something they would want to follow up
Jen, if you’re still here — how’s about HWAPA as Talking Book ASAP? Glenn’s not only easy reading, he’s easy listening too, eh wot? Open up whole new swaths of the demos, that could.
Mary — no sooner do you plain a plaint for Scheuer on the MSM than he shows up in one of his occasional-commentator gigs on the CBS Evening News! [paraphrased:]
Schieffer Q: What now?
Scheuer A: Next news, I fear, is the Sunnis and Shia stop for a brief think then wheel right around and unite to aim at Americans.
(lotus notes: Whether they do or they don’t, either way, time’s ripe for deploying the Murtha Strategy, dang it!)
Maggie- email addresses are not visible. You should email Jennifer Nix.
I’ve been listening to the House debate on the COPE act, which is the one that is poised to eliminate network neutrality unless it’s amended properly. It looks as though the last hope of averting that fate has just been killed, at least in the House. The Conyers-Sensebrenner amendment, which received bipartisan support out of the telecommunications and judicial committees, was not even allowed consideration on the House floor. The Markey amendment, a weak version of net neutrality, has just been voted down by voice vote.
Marsha Blackburn, the rep. from Tennessee, could not even define the problem correctly, and yet is against the amendment. She said that what the Markey amendment was proposing is to break up the Internet into packets, which must all be treated equally. Needless to say, the Internet is already broken up into packets, that’s how it works. The silly woman doesn’t even know this, but she’s comfortable determining how to change the Internet.
The fix is in, and the whores appear to now be in control of the Internet.
OT – New Murry Waas Plame article – more on how much Ashcroft knew about Irving and the Rovester before he finally recused himself.
cbl: the Great Wizards Behind the Curtain at FDL can ascertain the Email address of all posters…
has to be noted.
HWAPA==the sound made when struck by Glenn’s clue-bat….
:-D
Cujo 359 #117 – dammit, dammit, dammit.
concerning Net Neutrality: the identical bill must also get through the Senate too …
Good one, justadood.
Stinkin’ one, House Goopers.
You think being from Tennessee, she’d know a thing or two about the internet..oh yeah, she’s a rethug, so she knows nothing at all.
seriously, though Cujo359– dammit
OT – but an expression of relief: I could not view an updated FDL all day. Only the post at 6:30 a.m. But you are all here, thank goodness.
Now back to read all the posts and great comments I missed.
Congress critters had to wait until sundown to chew on our net toys.
I’ve got a copy of HWAPA right on my desk, and will be reading it right after I finish Anthony Arnove’s Iraq: The Logic of Withdrawal. I don’t quite understand why we would be enlisted to hump a book that it already on the NYT bestseller list. Is anyone interested in a project to put “10 Excellent Reasons Not to Join the Military” edited by Elizabeth Weill-Greenberg into High Schools around the country?
peace,
jim
*ilson46201 @ 5:49 pm (#122) – True, and hopefully saner minds will prevail there, but there’s really no other hope of killing this particular bill. Bush will certainly sign it. That’s probably one of the reasons the telecoms have been so cooperative with the NSA (well, that and their history of doing it).
I’d prefer that we not have to depend on the Senate.
*ilson,
thank you Your *izardness, guess I could have figured that one out
cujo359,
Marsha Blackburn is a first string dumbass, stellar member of the backwash 21% still allowing the Chimp to campaign on her behalf – and will tell you there’s wmd in Syria A Total Woman
IMO the process of planting book reviews with local media outlets is driven by Glenn’s book tour. Local news outlets are normally starved for “news.” A visit from an author on the New York Times best seller list is big “news.” The talk-radio stations will want to interview Glenn (You might want to confirm this with Taylor Marsh, I bet she would love him on her show when he is in St. Louis). The local ABC, NBC, CBS, and Fox affiliates will all want camera interviews, and the print media will want to run a story, probably, in addition to the review itself. This publicity in turn drives interests in the brick and mortar book stores which in turn incentivizes them to order more copies of HWAPA in anticipation of Glenn’s scheduled visit.
Wrt getting on U.S. networks, MTP, Daily Show, Colbert, Today, Tweety, Olbermann, Oprah, ….I would send them a tape of Glenn on C-SPAN or any other appearances he has made.
To those you had, I would add Imus, Larry King, Faux News, Good Morning American, Brian Lamb, and Morrie and Connie Chung.
I was very happy to see you mention Oprah. Oprah got stung big time by some author she had on who later turned out to be a hoax. I bet Oprah would love to have a European American, male, lawyer, smashing the Bush Administration. It would also go a ways to restoring her street credibility. Also Glenn’s one guest that Letterman couldn’t make fun of her about.
(Apologies above about the demographic references, I am just guessing about the way Oprah’s producer’s make decisions.)
Oprah might tap into a market that you otherwise wouldn’t get to.
Your publisher should have a whole separate International plan, broken out by country. I think the Iraqi’s would really enjoy it.
Taylor Marsh now being interviewed on http://www.theyoungturks.com
lotus 115 – I can not believe I missed that. Maybe I was channeling.
Here’s another sobering bit of info
http://www.boston.com/news/wor…..ar/?page=1
“Condolence” or bereavement or whatever payments we make in Iraq -up to 20 mill for the year 2005. Since they max out at 2500/person for a death and since there are still of lot of disputed deaths/maimings where we are not paying, it makes you start doing math and wondering how many civilians we are killing or seriously injuring every year. On its face, it doesn’t look great.
John Casper: Oprah is a great suggestion for Glenn’s book. Terrific exposure.
Mary 132: Ah. God.
And that’s the easily-paid part of this Butcher’s Bill.
(shaking head nearly OFF)
Lotus,
I left an answer to your Nick Berg question on the Zarqawi thread.
Pastafarians. Snort! With clam up sauce? (ouch – I should leave that to a pro like punaise)
I just see them all lined up, holding hands – Rove, Wilkes, Cunningham, Abramoff, etc. and across a green, grassy field, a line of “not currently send anyone off to Syria for rendition or into secret domestic detention” lawyers, both sides with those d*mn yellow ties I hate, chanting
Red Rover, Red Rover, send …..
Time to see which lines hold. ;-)
Bit of a warning. Hair boy – Byron York – who spends his time defending people who out CIA agents – is at dailykos, looking to stir up sh**. Intimidation tactics galore. Remember, you can’t have a point of view different from the administration or you get branded a loon and a traitor. Just watch out for his weasel a**. If you see someone ranting in the corner, demanding women give up access to their own bodies and children not have access to health care – that’s the guy. You can also tell by his superpowered mane which he loves to toss. He is very scared. He’s in a panic over Glenn’s book and now he is panicked that progressives are organizing.
http://article.nationalreview……JlYWY3ZWI=
CUjo 117 – depressing. So the telecos get the House to hand them the legislation they want and Cheney to cover for them re: Judiciary committee testimony.
Any good shots in the Senate? Oh, wait – the Senate. Never mind.
OT: This is the first time I’ve watched the House debate a bill. I must say that it really is like watching sausages being made. If anyone’s looking to lower his appetite, I suggest you keep it tuned to CSPAN. The folks like Ms. Blackburn seem to be outnumbered by those who spend their time thinking how to plausibly talk about an issue in a way that makes it look 180 degrees different from what it actually is.
Jennifer,
Thanks for your good work. It’s interesting to note that progressive books bubble up from our grassroots, while regressive books are funded by right-wing institutions.
lotus,
The Butcher’s Bill….
That was a very nice yet somber phrase from the Napoleonic wars which accurately summed up the sad loss of life. We don’t really give a shit about the butcher’s bill anymore, we just put it on the tab.
As I pondered this morning, why are Bush and Blair gloating about the death of al-Zarqawi on TV. There is even a Times article about how noble Bush was to wait to jump on TV until today. What struck me about this is how important al-Zarqawi was to Bush. I mean, here is the leader of the most powerful country in, well, the forever — and he is eulogizing (negatively — I know) one dead “terrorist.” A punk leader of a viscous group of religiously insane killers. Al-Zaquari is like Cromwell, he was at home killing Sunnis who worshipped saints as he was at killing innocent boys who wanted peace (Berg). But our president went on TV to gloat.
I know that there is an ancient and noble tradition of honoring your fallen enemy — the one who was a great match for a great warrior. But this isn’t about great leaders or great opponents. This is about a President so sad and belittled that he actually fears al-Zarqawi. He might as well gloat about the death of a gang banger in Boston. And of course, Bush would never personalize the attack upon or death of any one of our soldiers. Unless it was a lie like Lynch or Tillman.
Why do we honor our enemies more than our fallen brothes and sisters?
“Brink of”?
Watching the house generally makes me literally nauseous most of the time. The way the minority party is treated is just awful.
Oh geez– tuned in to cspan and there is the BUGMAN from France via Sugarland. Zut alors!
Cujo: you just think you are seeing the sausage being made! You do see ground up something being forced into casings. Where did the casings come from? Do you have the faintest idea what went into the grinder to produce the ‘meat’? What chemicals are there to enhance the shelf-life or taste? So much stuff is done off-camera in cloakrooms and French restaurants…
OT: They’re doing a recorded vote now on the Markey amendment. The last vote was a voice vote. I think Markey’s just trying to show how many people are in favor of this amendment. No chance of it there being a miscount before. So, if we don’t spend too much time on Tom DeLay’s farewell, we’ll at least know that much.
Yep, Tom DeLay’s speaking. Just like sausages …
Hey, is Pach still around?
He went to the caucus a while ago, watertiger.
Thanks, angie. Trying to get a hold of Jane or Christy. I’m supposed to be putting up a post right about now, but I’ve been forgotten by WordPress!
(runs out of the room, crying)
Firepups – checking in from the Firedoglake gathering – putting names to faces by filling out a questionaire – “What would be your last meal if you were’ on death row” – best answer = “Dick Cheney’s liver and onions. Course it would be pretty oily.” Its so fantastic to see everyone.
Thanks, angie.
Trying to get a hold of Jane or Christy. I’ve been assigned the 9:00 slot, and WordPress has forgotten me!
(runs out of the room, crying).
oh wow– saw you were stranded on the Zarqawi thread and tried to get you some help here. ;( we’ll wait as long as it takes, here’s a hanky!
Still OT – but tieing to threads below:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/060806C.shtml
Important (imo) Scott Ritter op piece on Haditha from truthout.
There is a leadership deficit in the armed forces of the United States today, and it begins with the commander in chief, President George W. Bush, and his secretary of defense, Donald Rumsfeld. It extends to the entire U.S. Congress and onto the senior leadership of the uniformed armed services, the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
All of these individuals and organizations set a standard of carefree indifference to the rule of law when they ordered, or gave consent to, the invasion and occupation of Iraq. . . . . And in waiving American adherence to the rule of law in general, and the law of war in particular, American leadership, civilian and military, set a standard of indifference that was far too easily replicated by the men and women under them. This is why we had Bagram, Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib. And this is why we have Haditha.
The sad fact is that American service members in Iraq are not fighting a fight they can win. There is no standard for victory. They are deployed for six months, a year, or more, to a theater of operations that President Bush has already acknowledged will only be resolved by the next president. This means that those being dispatched to Iraq have only one mission: to survive. This is not a mission statement conducive to sound decision making and action. . . .
. . .America has collectively walked away from the rule of law, and in doing so, has become the greatest perpetrator of war crimes in modern times.
The scope and scale of our crimes, as manifested in Iraq and elsewhere, are mind-boggling. The indifference of the American people is mind numbing. And the wrath of history, which will judge all of us harshly, has yet to be felt.
Hmmm.The folks over at “Hotair” are judging the folks at yearly KOS on the bedrock Christian principle of “how good looking” attendees at the convention appear.
Of course the obligatory attack on the appearance of the elderly Helen Thomas is never far behind either……..
Scrutinize the “Hotair” folks see if they are wearing any WWJF(Who Would Jesus Fuck) bracelets.
(Snip)
“Oh-one always wants to know whether the other side’s women are more attractive. So rest assured, my gentlemen readers at Hotair, you are on the right side of history. Again, not an extreme case: If you had pictured nothing but young’ budding, be-Birkenstocked Helen Thomases traipsing through the Riviera’s halls, seeking whom they may devour, it’s nowhere near that bad; it’s just that I’ve been to CPAC: and this, sir, is no CPAC. Hmm…think I just saw Wonkette, if she’s your type..”
-GSD
and now I’m spazzing out in the comments! faaaaa-bulous!
(accepts hankie, honks into it)
test
Hi Kathryn– see watertiger’s post and if you can shout out to the hostesses!
OfT – re Zarqawi:
So if al-Zarqawi was the head of Al-Qaeda in Iraq, and he really is dead, that means there’s a job opening, does it not?
Who’s to say the next guy won’t be worse?
It’s not like we wiped out the whole organization (or idea, or whatever Al-Qaeda is).
Cujo- This bill is more like making pancakes. Just wait for your first blood sausage surprise.
*ilson46201 @ 6:19 pm (#144) Cujo: you just think you are seeing the sausage being made! You do see ground up something being forced into casings.
Well the meat is being dropped on the floor and then being scooped up, the skins are inside out, and the congenital idiots who are doing the work are eating half the profits. Whatever happened before that is probably even uglier, but this is bad enough.
Crap. Missed the vote count. Well, it was a loss, anyway. Now, the only thing that really matters is if the opponents can muster enough votes to make this look like a serious issue for the Senate to ponder.
If you’d like to send a suggestion to OPRAH about hosting Glenn on her show, it’s an easy process. Complete the form: http://www2.oprah.com/email/re…..deas.jhtml
jayt,
Zarqawi replacement already chosen — a Egyptian who has been in Iraq aince 2004. Look for more tactical and less insane attack strategies.
It’s true, Mary– the administration is responsible down to the core. They are breaking our military and the soul of America. The Hague.
Ritter was right before the war and now.
Has any thought been given to planning something around the Fourth of July? The book’s perfect for it….
I think I’ll email some ideas. This comment section is chaotic beyond words.
From the Firedoglake caucus, Pach is talking up the Roots Project, as is now Christy and Jane. Citizen participation. Jane talking about how senators don’t feel tons of identical emails come from more than one person, that the rest of us don’t exist. Jane talking about Lambert’s interactive website where one’s email address is visible to recipient in Congress (have i explained this at all correctly?) to show we are real individuals.
“Common People for the Common Good” – new slogan for the Roots Project. Not a single issue group. Values based, not issues based.
OT
Just caught the tail end of Nick Berg’s dad making Larry King’s head explode. Hopefully up at C&L soon.
Kathryn in Ma–please tell Jane/Christy that watertiger is having trouble posting the next post.
Watertiger, if worse comes to worse, you can use my log-in. Just don’t mess with my late nite Ann Coulter post. I have polished it to lethal, gleaming perfection.
Email me at df530 at bellsouth dot net.
Kathryn in MA,
If either of the lovely ladies have a moment, WordPress is pretending I don’t exist. They may have wiped my login name when they were switching servers.
Ah, for the days of parchment and smoke signals…
I remember years ago when Larry King was a fairly decent liberal radio interviewer…
TRex,
You’ve got mail.
John C – great suggestions for HWAPA.
Immanentize – it all gives pause, doesn’t it? Maybe Bush has realized that his only way out is a Murtha plan and this gives them something to use as a start point. It’s hard to view anything the administration puts forward these days except through a jaundiced eye.
Maybe the evil Doktor Frist had an wingnut chip implanted in his chest during one of Mr. King’s procedures.
Or maybe he had a wingnut wife or two…
Hey Gang — It’s Christy! Wish you guys were here…Byron York is sitting on the floor taking notes, Ana Marie Cox is in the back, we have two camera crews — so I don’t know if any of the caucus will be televised, but I’ll let everyone know. :)
Hi Christy– give Byron’s do a tousle for us!!!
angie – believe it or not, I had managed to miss the framed picture items until pretty recently. I can’t believe that, as an editor, the only response to you was that you better get used to it bc there would be lots of it today. No discussion of the ethics of using an enemy’s death as a Photo Reveal moment.
I suppose something needed to be done to address the issue of identification, etc. but having the USA and its media go into a “show us his dead head” frenzy is creepy. To frame the picture too – what ?????
Redd, watertiger needs help posting.
I remember watchihng the Election in ‘04.
As the evening and night went on and the tide gradually turned for the Repubs, I noticed that Wolf got more and more relaxed while Larry King looked more and more perturbed.
Wolf waxed loquatious but to my recollection, King got quieter and quieter. To my eye it looked like he smelled something and it stunk.
Byron York is sitting on the floor? did anybody ask him to please remove his hair so as not to obscure the view from folk sitting behind him?
Christy!
You’re not gonna believe this…you’ve got email.
Hey Christy- did you see that Watertiger can’t get her post up? Earlier info from messages.
Mary,
I am feeling very jaundiced. I need some type of reality detox. Tried a margarita, shoulda tried two (or ten).
And Nell? A little Gang of Four:
outside the trains don’t run on time
he believes it’s not coincidence
he thinks the blood will run them down
hold it’s no castle
it’s once it’s white to run and fetch
order his obsession
the trains don’t run on time
:~)
Redd! Do all us not-there-folks proud!
OT: The bill’s opponents are trying to have it sent back to committee. Someone named Bobby Bush, an alleged Democrat from Illinois, is speaking in opposition of that motion. He’s gotten a thunderous applause for calling all that net neutrality stuff a snow job. Putz.
Anyway, this one’s going to fail, too. The vote appears to be on party lines, although there are 31 Democratic defectors so far, and two Republicans in favor.
Meanwhile, the Bug Man said that partisanship is essential to democracy. Gee, think maybe the Democrats heard that?
Mary: they released two photos of Zarqawi: one is a cleaned up version suitable for childrens books and shows and an adult version in color with blood and cuts and bruises…
Griffon 135, first off, apologies for calling you Cointreau! Secondly, woulda been back to you sooner had the phone not rung. Anyhow . . .
I understand your emotion, and only wish you could have avoided the experience that supplies this awful memory. I didn’t watch the Nick Berg tape at the time (it seemed a good one for an already-depressed person to leave alone), nor do I have any other eyes-on experience like yours. So I can’t debate your theory.
Usually (virtually always) around here, folks making statements like the one I asked you about provide a link or other documantation in support of them (as Dru did, re The Atlantic). And now I do recall reading, at the time, the passage Dru referred to today. But as I reconsidered it this afternoon, I didn’t (and still don’t) see proof there of your theory, nor can I take your word for it, based on the evidence I have now.
Please don’t take that personally. Not only am I a product of law school, but I also spent a major chunk of my life in the Show-Me State. Which of those makes me ornerier in resisting an idea not my own … well, that’s your call. ;-}
Mary @ 6:26 pm (#152) – Ritter is sadly correct. Thankfully, Congress is doing its best to make sure we can’t talk about this depressing stuff any longer.
Redd,
Sam Seader on AA just called Byron York a SCHMUCK! LOL Watching AA streaming from LV, Atrios was just on.
imman, re reality detox, suggest getting outdoors away from all ability for humans to screw things up. I spent the day walking the beach, watching flocks of pelicans overhead. The ocean, and the world, are very much bigger than we can comprehend. Helps me to think about the larger world, and eternal issues. Thinking about you, let me know how the detox is going. Or the alcohol, which works for me :)
Let’s see: EmptyWheel, TBogg, Bob Geiger, Ian Welsh, Jane, Pach, me…so much fun — and there are lots of folks. Oh, and I just talked to one of the video guys and we’re going to try and get video footage and put some of it up as soon as we can. :)
Yeah, Mary– he seemed much more interested in the Tony Snow about-face than the thing I still am having trouble with. I can usually stay with the news, not today. Not while they showed photos endlessly of Saddam and his sons, either. It does not feel right to me as an American. But then, not much does these days. I was taken aback at his dismissal, and did write back to further question him. He did not take me up on it. The Framed Picture on a display stand with the wiped clean corpse face is beyond words.
York is also a PUTZ
Pastafarians. With clam-up sauce.
I declare, you birds set a standard that will abide in my mind.
707, God help me!
Christy and Jane et al
And you thought you could leave everything in the hands of the babysitter.
Reminds me of the time we (Mr Bionic and I) went out to pick up dinner leaving the three kids sitting quietly on our bed watching tv.
Fifteen minutes later, one of them was on the corner frantically waving us home.
Got in the door and found number one son with his arm bent funny.
Turns out he snapped it when our daughter, who was about 12, gave him an airplane ride on our bed. She had been told not to do so, since he pactically weighed as mmuch as she did.
He over balanced and fell forward. One arm bent and “the other one didn’t”.
Compound fracture through the elbow. Surgery to place pins and a few days in one of the top children’s hospitals in the world.
Cost? $36 for the stuffed toy he got for getting so hurt. Thank god for socialized medicine. But I never got to eat the dinner.
(Can you tell I can’t find enough Ykos to occupy my mind?)
Watertiger at 154 — whatcha need, baby? I’m on one of our readers’ computer at the moment…
Not to say that the Tony Snow about-face wasn’t interesting, though. I swear, sometimes I feel as though this is the Twilight Zone…
watertiger was locked out of WordPress- it did not recognize her… she sent you an email.
OT: Yep, the COPE/kill the Internet bill passed, with 101 Nays.
Cujo – I agree. It was hard to excerpt – Ritter’s piece was all built from the base up.
It almost makes you wonder about them having the vote during YKos when they may not be as hounded by emails, faxes and calls.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
More OT (I’m a font of OT today)
From Rawstory citing Blumenthal/Salon – backstory to the deciderer?
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0608.html
Was GHWB trying to get Rumsfeld yanked?
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad! I’m the Decider now.
Rumsfeld and Cheney won the fight for W way back when. If Blumenthal is right, though, you almost have to hand it to GHWB for trying.
New Red Rover visions — but we know which lines held.
[winger=on] What? the State didn’t provide a medically necessary Teddy Bear? Proof of bureaucratic government incompetence! Socialized medicine would never work in America! [winger=off]
Jennifer, is there an e-mail address you can be reached at? I have a question about local distribution.
immanentize 141
What you said.
(And I sure wish you’d say it 99.9% as-is to your local op-ed page!)
Wowf, we got great writers here.
Okay — am getting to my e-mail…
Hey I just talked to Pach via Matt O.’s cell phone. Watertiger, TRex, check for recent email from someone whose name you WT won’t recognize. WT- email content to Pach’s gmail and he will post as soon as he can if Trex hasn’t already done so. pachacutec01 at gmail dot com
Christy, wordpress wouldn’t take watertiger’s login name. She sent you an email. Trex has offered to lend his login info. Earlier watertiger emails seemed in distress, but I don’t know him/her so can’t read between the lines.
We are excited to hear about yKos!!!
Blank Kludge @ 5:42 pm (#113) – You aren’t a true pastafarian until you’ve been touched by his noodly appendage, have caught a pirate fish, or bought the T-shirt.
Anyone with enough sense to have no idea what I’m talking about should go here:
http://www.venganza.org/
Stop global warming. Become a pirate.
Somewhat OT, i.e., not “How would a patriot sell,” but rather how does one impede the marketing of the latest piece of trash from Coultergeist? Kerry has an idea up on HuffPo, which is:
“Get on the phone to any television program that has Ann Coulter on, and demand they press her not on her callous attacks, but on which recommendations of the 9/11 Commission she thinks should be forgotten. Which ports does she think should be left unsecured. Make the 9/11 widows’ issues follow this fool everywhere she goes…And take Peter Daou’s cue… Make her a liability — and test whether the GOP is ashamed of Ann Coulter, or just embarrassed by her.” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..22505.html
Too bad Lou Dobbs didn’t think of that, instead of asking her whether he hurt her marketing. Blecchhh. Oh no, fabulous, she said.
lotus
Pastafarians. With clam-up sauce.
707, God help me!
the soon to be infamous upside-down LOL!
egregious,
Believe it or not :: I was just googling for a new canoe. I am gonna spend some of my hard-earned on a light weight trecker for me and little Imm. Outdoors is the perfect solution.
Lotus, thanks — and I will, tomorrow. Not likely to get into print … but I will try.
Lotus,
There was a medico of some sort who commented on the lack of blood aspect soon after the tape was released. But I didn’t mention that as I didn’t have the link. I don’t need a link for my own experience which is more credible anyway as the medico was talking from theory whereas I’m talking from direct experience. You’re right, though, I should have referenced that rather than leave it hanging out there.
I am not trying to win a debate here but merely point out something that if you have a little biology knowledge you would be able to validate it yourself i.e. blood pressure and arteries.
I appreciate your wanting to reference everything. Good practice. But it’s a mistake to let academic references crowd out the field at the expense of your own common sense. Sometimes the process can obscure the truth, ironically.
immanentize
Believe it or not :: I was just googling for a new canoe
almost as much fun as canoodling for boogaloo
punaise is on CSPAN?
OT – Atrios on AA threw cold water all over the Estate Tax opponents argument of “taxed twice”.
Example (mine): You buy $1M worth of Microsoft stock, when you die it’s worth $80M. Your estate trust sells it and it’s subject to the estate tax. Taxed twice? No, because no capitol gains tax on the profits was ever paid on it, ever.
punaise — or oogling at a bugaboo
No Gauguin has appeared on a thread above. Hit your F5 now.
Cozumel,
Just a quicky on estate tax. During Teddy Roosevelt’s time, it was seriously debated whether all assets (other than real property)at death should be taxed at 100%. This would truly be the American way — each person would have to succeed on his or her merits, rather than their inheritance. The end of the estate tax in this country would be the final nail in the coffin of class equality (as if another nail is needed).
Thank you for all your work on this book, Jennifer. Greatly appreciated; I’ll step in and help with the Patriot Project as best I can. I’m starting first with finding someone to write a review, might have someone on the hook already.
imman, we got our graduating daughter a kayak for her present, it’s what she wanted out of a range of possibilities. Need to keep in touch with our physical being, including getting out there and experiencing the great outdoors.
new thread – new picture
Yaaaa, so many here I want to touch on — who was it way up top talking about the chaos of this thread? Dern Tooting! (Near Tooting Common.) But lookit all the CREATIVITY!
Oh well, Griffon, you’re the last-in-time, so here’s the piece of it that’s front-of-my-mind at the moment:
… it’s a mistake to let academic references crowd out the field at the expense of your own common sense …
Yepper, we certainly do agree on that one. But since YOU’re the one who’s seen a human decapitation and I’m the one who hasn’t, it’s sense common to YOU but not to ME.
Only decapitations I ever saw were chickens — that flopped off the chopping-block under the big ol’ pecan tree in my grandmama’s back yard and ran. I don’t recall much blood. Maybe I was too taken with the running, at my then-age, to pay good attention to poultry BP. (And we ARE talking 50ish years ago.) But that’s the only image I have to work with.
Please excuse me now, Griffon, because I’m a very slow typist and there’s so much else going on here calling me . . .
We’re all taking the govt’s word that the guy is dead…..pics can be faked. How many other people did they kill who had nothing to do with him. A 500 pound bomb does a hell of a lot of damage of the collateral kind.
Late last week, checked customer terminal at local Borders Books (Ponce de Leon). “In store”, sez the terminal. Not actually visible. Asked staff about HWAPA: “We have it, but it’s on a pallet in back and we can’t get at it.”
Yesterday, at local Barnes and Nobles, where the latest disgusting Coulter screed was already prominently displayed: no HWAPA on political shelves.
What’s the deal? I complained at Borders but didn’t have time to collar somebody at Barnes and Nobles.
Granted this is Atlanta we’re speaking of, but we’re in the gay part, for Pete’s sake. WTF is going on with these Big Box Book Stores?
Leisure Guy was right.
Hi Folks–Sorry I missed the comments when this went up yesterday. We had a couple of events here in SF with Glenn yesterday, including a very fun launch party. Today, I fly to Vegas. Saw some of you were asking for my email. Please get in touch!
jennifer dot nix @ gmail dot com
Thanks!
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