Comments on: Zombie Journalism Moves to MSNBC

By: professor rat

professor rat — Fri, 02 Jun 2006 03:49:23 +0000

This is exactly what you’d expect from a Miltary/entertainment complex under siege.
The credibilty gap just keeps spreading as these rats go down with the ship.
So far as globalization goes i think it is a revolution half made and that is tragic. Agriculture protection means the poorest half of humanity is suffering and dying. They will keep suffering and dying until ‘ Free trade’ also becomes ‘ Fair trade.’
Nafta should include the entire hemisphere imho and include a common currency, passportless travel and a smaller but smarter military.
That is the challenge for all progressive democratic socialists. To get out there and sell that.

By: dday

dday — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 23:45:31 +0000

ALL of the GOP’s “grassroots” programs are actually astroturfing and sock puppeteering. When they get around to trying to drum up a real grassroots initiative, you get stuff like MyGOP, which was an attempt to tap into online fundraising. It was a complete bust. Nobody raised more than 500 bucks.

The whole sordid story here.

By: Billy K

Billy K — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:29:07 +0000

FYI: Dallas’ local NBC affiliate ran the “send-a-brick” story last night, but we had our own hometown guy who was mailing them. I’d read that this was an astroturf organization, but I couldn’t find a solid expose to email to Channel 5. I will send them this post tonight.

By: Beel

Beel — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:08:08 +0000

How is it conceivable that the GOP can seriously mount an anti-illegal immigration policy. I understand that they are fine with endless lies to manipulate their logic-impaired base, but does anyone here imagine that they can actually live with destroying illegal immigration? After all, illegal immigration is the method by which we globalize that part of our manufacturing and service economy that we can’t ship overseas. That is, the Chinese and Indonesians and Indians make the shirts and field the tech calls, but we can’t get houses shipped over here from China, and we can’t really process all the chicken way over there. Therefore, we globalize by bringing the global labor pool here, with illegals working for far less (tho not Chinese rates, admittedly). Surely the GOP as well as a majority of Democrats still stand on the economic phenomenon of globalization? Any comments?

By: Lobstergirl

Lobstergirl — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 19:35:15 +0000

Jim Preston 89:

You are so right. Gwen Ifill is just a disaster as a “reporter”, and Dana Milbank’s snarky answers are funny for about 8 seconds before I get really pissed off that serious questions are being dismissed summarily.

By: Tom in Texas

Tom in Texas — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 19:25:04 +0000

C:
I understand your frustration, but I don’t think anyone is for illegal immigration. I think that the only truly effective way to stop people from seeking a better life here is to make life in their own country much better — immigration from Ireland and Italy has slowed as these countries’ economies progressed, no? For this reason, I have actually had to reverse my own position on NAFTA. I now believe that a form of NAFTA that guarantees a living wage in the country affected and worker’s rights is the only way to slow immigration here. While NAFTA definitely has a bad effect on the American worker as their jobs are sent over a border, If we do not help people in Mexico find decent, well paid, and well regulated jobs, they will move here and take someone else’s job anyway.

By: C

Thu, 01 Jun 2006 19:16:53 +0000

Hugh - you say: What do you suggest we do with the 10-12 million illegal immigrants in this country? Send them to camps where we can make soap out of them?

Sure, that’s exactly what I proposed. Nothing like going to the sarcastic extreme and try to define anyone who you disagree with as a Nazi.

I pray we can win some elections in the next two years, but No Wonder the Democratic Party can’t get its shit together!

By: Tom in Texas

Tom in Texas — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:49:54 +0000

Christy;
Yes, I did read Will’s post (I commented on that thread as well). A question though: Do you seriously think that none of the posters at KoS worked on, say, Dean’s presidential campaign? That no one on MyDD worked for a nonprofit? These people are the most passionate and dedicated of the political blogosphere. Those on both sides have dedicated their time in real life to the causes they spout online about so frequently — of that I have no doubt.

By: Christy Hardin Smith

Christy Hardin Smith — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:42:54 +0000

Tom in Texas at 107 — oh yeah, but for that stint as an employee of the Forbes campaign for the Presidency and all…did you read the whole of the Attytood posting? There’s more than just a coupla internet posts.

By: palamedes

palamedes — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:34:06 +0000

Margot@71;

Transparency is a great disinfectant.

So is enlightenment. ;-)