
The new Rolling Stone has an article up by Robert Kennedy Jr. about GOP vote suppression in 2004. It's one of those complex subjects to which other bloggers devote a lot of much-needed attention and cover quite well so I'll leave it to them to do the heavy lifting and just say that I'm glad whenever it rises to the level of national debate.
Says Kennedy:
Republicans derided anyone who expressed doubts about Bush's victory as nut cases in ''tinfoil hats,'' while the national media, with few exceptions, did little to question the validity of the election. The Washington Post immediately dismissed allegations of fraud as ''conspiracy theories,''(1) and The New York Times declared that ''there is no evidence of vote theft or errors on a large scale.''(2)
But despite the media blackout, indications continued to emerge that something deeply troubling had taken place in 2004. Nearly half of the 6 million American voters living abroad(3) never received their ballots -- or received them too late to vote(4) -- after the Pentagon unaccountably shut down a state-of-the-art Web site used to file overseas registrations.(5) A consulting firm called Sproul & Associates, which was hired by the Republican National Committee to register voters in six battleground states,(6) was discovered shredding Democratic registrations.(7) In New Mexico, which was decided by 5,988 votes,(8) malfunctioning machines mysteriously failed to properly register a presidential vote on more than 20,000 ballots.(9) Nationwide, according to the federal commission charged with implementing election reforms, as many as 1 million ballots were spoiled by faulty voting equipment -- roughly one for every 100 cast.(10)
The reports were especially disturbing in Ohio, the critical battleground state that clinched Bush's victory in the electoral college. Officials there purged tens of thousands of eligible voters from the rolls, neglected to process registration cards generated by Democratic voter drives, shortchanged Democratic precincts when they allocated voting machines and illegally derailed a recount that could have given Kerry the presidency. A precinct in an evangelical church in Miami County recorded an impossibly high turnout of ninety-eight percent, while a polling place in inner-city Cleveland recorded an equally impossible turnout of only seven percent. In Warren County, GOP election officials even invented a nonexistent terrorist threat to bar the media from monitoring the official vote count.(11)
That the GOP devotes plenty of time, money and manpower to these illegal and deplorable tactis is undeniable -- and that they both stick by and reward those who engage in them is undeniable. Trying to keep people from voting is anti-Democratic and anti-American, and there are few places where wingnuttia's contempt for democracy becomes more blatantly obvioius.
Login Here
Share This
Spotlight
fitz!
Kazuza - Damn you Cozumel.
History is the best of teachers.
So I WAS EPU’d– from the last thread
=== Valley Girl says:
June 1st, 2006 at 3:29 pm
I am just checking in, and assume that I will be EPU’d. I read the RS article. The only part of it that is new to me is the part about the analysis of the Mitofsky exit polls. As far as I can remember EVERY other part of this was reported by Brad Friedman at BradBlog months and months and months ago, more than a year ago in most cases. It’s probably no coincidence that BB had excerpts of the article up before it appeared online. Election reform is Brad’s big issue and main focus, and he was all over this.
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., bless you!
Well, I say bless Brad Friedman.
Would Fitz be able to investigate this stuff? Or, someone like him?
Is the Justice Department even remotely interested in ensuring honest elections?
Is the Elections Commssion able to investigate?
Why didn’t Kerry, with all his money pursue the issue at the time?
Where is the justice?
Where is the assurance we need that it won’t happen in 2006 and 2008?
This certainly does deserve to “rise to the level of national debate.” It’s deserved it for a long time. So far the blogs haven’t gotten their just deserts as far as having a “national” voice, so I’m glad about the article. Kudos to Rolling Stone for printing it!
Hopefully this will be a springboard into the MSM.
I am still reeling from having read the article — it’s flabbergasting.
It’s all so insidious, so coordinated, so shameless. How do we stake the heart of this tarantula?
The press really hates to be accused of a lack of patriotism or short of team spirit. Best to nip that in the bud, by declaring that the “best man won” — as quickly as possible. Al Gore upset their metabolisms by not agreeing. Kerry went along with the program.
“Why didn’t Kerry, with all his money pursue the issue at the time?”
Karl must have pictures…
I was so mad after reading that, I had to pound a few inanimate objects. While swinging away, I thought of dear Norske Flamethrower. It seemed like a good PASS THE AMMUNITION moment.
shredding Democratic registrations was just a test-run for the real objective — shredding the Constitution.
Rootz !!!
And here are some details of the 2000 Theft
Makes one wonder what 2006 will add to this sorry episode in American electorial history
“Eventually, the truth will emerge. And when it does, this house of cards, built of deceit, will fall.” - Robert C. Byrd
Thanks Jane. I hope the other “big name” bloggers join you to at least call attention to Kennedys piece. We really need to raise the profile on this issue.
Channeling Punaise:
‘Forced spread in Ohio’
;>)
This will go absolutely nowhere. Add it to the long, long list.
Haven’t a few of our blogger heroes dismissed the stolen election issue out of hand in the past? Can we now claim some sort of universality on this issue?
When did voter suppression become even remotely acceptable in our democracy, even under the guise of “preventing election fraud?” This is a criminal enterprise, this GOP, and it needs the sunshine. Yay, RFKjr and Rolling Stone, but especially yay Brad!
I just read that bit you cited Jane to my bud and his eyes are glistening. I was telling him about the article and your new post came up and helped me to explain it pdq cause I was at a loss to describe it except in emotional terms- (he asked for the specifics), so thank you. He will print it up and hand it around at work tomorrow; it’s one way to get it out there.
Still shaking. Our democratic republic is in its last throes, we have to change things.
EPU’d just in time for a pertinent post! to lhp at 106 - We need some very specific ideas for about 10,000 people to do.
1. Find out who to call to be a poll monitor.
2. Take a video of anyone coming to “repair” a voting maching that has a “glitch”.
3. Count the number of people entering to vote. Sometimes the precinct total is strangely higher than the number of people who showed up.
4. IMPORTANT: Cover the infrared port with thick enough tape so that there can’t be any data transmission during the vote. After hours…another problem.
5. Record what happens to voting machines that suddenly don’t work. What about those votes? Do they ever get counted?
6. Try to arrange for or participate in exit polling, perhaps in conjunction with the local newspaper or university.
7. Etc, just off the top of my uninformed head. Being from Ohio originally I’m all over the need to prevent voting fraud in 2006. My grandmother was the first president of the League of Women Voters in our town, wonder what she would think of Ohio’s situation now.
have another beer
;-)
Jane, thanks for posting this. I believe that this is among the most important issues that must be resolved in order to restore sanity to America, and before that can happen I think it needs to become a general issue, not just left up to a few specialists, no matter how good a job they do. Election fraud needs attention and I hope others will join you in writing about it more often.
The only way this is going anywhere is if the American people embrace it. If you can steal an election, leave the evidence out in the open for all to see, and there STILL aren’t crowds in the streets, then we’re doomed. So were’re probably doomed. I hope and pray that this ends with 5 million people on the Mall demanding that Clusterfuck quit. Just quit.
…and the rest of it:
Department of being fair to the other side: DeWine is not part of any known Republican scandal. Of course I hope Brown wins for Senate nevertheless. Everybody ELSE…hmmm…
Secretary of State Blackwell, in charge of voter fraud (hey! so sue me for libel!) in 2004 and 2005 will be in charge of counting ballots for his OWN election to Governor in 2006. What is wrong with this picture. [/rant]
I’m glad it’s finally getting some sunshine. I wonder if RFKJr. is who Mark Crispin Miller was refering to when he said “someone big” was going to be coming out with the voter issue.
Why didn’t Kerry pursue the issue at the time?
Because calling the election stolen at the time would have made him seem like a lunatic in the eyes of most people.
I for one am convinced that the Rovians knew this perfectly well and used it to their advantage. Stealing an election is just such an unbelieveable thing that they knew no one would believe it. It’s the perfect crime.
The MSM is especially bad at covering stories that are math intensive and deal with probability issues (polls vs results, changes in voting patterns, etc), or with arcania like hacking, encryption, and computer security. I haven’t yet read the article, but RFK clearly emphasizes the *visible* vote manipulation.
What troubles me is that the electronic voting machines and tablulators are, according to computer experts, laughably hackable. All I have to do is run a virus check on my computer, or look at my “junk” e-mail box to know that if a system is vulnerable, someone will take advantage of that weakness. So I have to assume that the likelihood these systems have already been hacked is high.
What we have here is means, motive, and prior history on the part of the Republican party. And until recently, a “What me worry?” MSM. Let’s hope that RFK Jr’s article opens up this can of worms and shakes it all over the national table.
Y’all headed for YKos, I’m suddenly glad for its timing and the convergence of attention on these high-crimes-and-misdemeanors it’s sure to provide. God damn, GET ‘EM!
I’m proud to say I hosted a mirror site for Georgia10’s pdf opus “Somethng About Ohio” in 2004. Huge volume of downloads.
I’m starting to really wish Al Gore would run again! Am I alone? Crazy–?
Al Gore for President– NOW!
Which is why John Kerry will never get my vote for dogcatcher, much less president. I wish he would stop acting like he is some sort of elder statesman in this party. He let us down, huge.
I have a much bigger problem with how Kerry handled the stolen election than with how Gore did. Gore got blindsided and ws reacting. Kerry knew it was comming and abdicated.
Egr at 25 (hey! so sue me for libel!) is no relation to Libby Sosume at 11. But funny anyway :)
Timing is everything. Poll numbers in the 29% range allow for a broader discussion considering the lack of trust expressed by the polling data.
Here’s to Robert Kennedy Jr. for taking a stand, and Rolling Stone for giving him the platform to stand on.
Does anyone have any idea what it would take to start a campaign demanding paper ballots?
Failing that, does anyone know how we as a group can sabotage the election with the right hack?
VG,
of course you are right. Seems if a blogger breaks a story and hammers on it the MSM is reluctant to pick up on it and give any credence to the blogosphere whatsoever. Meanwhile, the people getting hosed in the pissing contest is everyone else. Now if we can just get the story published besides in that far-left dope-smoking hippy mag by a Kennedy. You know that will be the pushback. Oh well,baby steps.
Interesting historical notes about 2000 and 2004.
However, people need to look forward. And the future of the Republican state is paper-free voting machines. Anybody who argues that such machines cannot be manipulated is a naieve luddite or a willing accomplice to the end of one voter=one vote democracy.
Google says: “Your search - Robert Kennedy Jr., Ohio - did not match any documents.” No one in this country gives a shit; least of all the media. The only answer is to somehow get enough Democrats elected to fix this outrage. A conundrum to be sure.
margaret @ 7:
‘Why didnt Kerry, with all his money pursue the issue at the time?’
A case of ‘You can’t fight the octopus alone’, writ large…Kerry learned that hard lesson when he went after BCCI.
Huge kudos to anyone and everyone putting this story out there. I’m sure Brad would love more exposure, but I also bet he’s still gleeful this story made the front of RS!
The stench of what has transpired in American voting booths is not answered by saying “what about 1960?” I wasn’t around when it was corrupt Dems stealing votes in Chicago, and I make no excuses for any similar behavior by any slimeball on any swath of the political spectrum! Two wrongs don’t make a right, though in the case of electronic voting and all the other illegal tactics committed since 2000, two wrongs sure do seem to make many a happy Righty.
At least KO gets his just desserts for covering the issue! He will surely cover it tonight (if he’s back!).
I do remember the almost frightening feeling of relief and freedom that started to mount on election day as the exit polls seemed to predict victory, which was then was horribly shattered.
TRex and the rest - The best defense against vote fraud is probably to legitimize and spread the issue. Talk to everyone you know. I don’t tell people, especially conservatives, “I suspect the 2004 election may have been stolen,” (though I do.) Rather I say, “It troubles me greatly that computer experts say these systems are easily hackable, and far less secure than ATMs. I want to be confident that my vote is being counted.”
Unfortunately (as someone who’s well versed on this issue explained to me), paper ballots will not necessarily solve our problems. As the article points out, lots of the problems had to do with voter registration–AND the machines that COUNT the votes, whether paper or no, can also be tampered with.
Here’s a really radical idea:
Be a poll worker. I’m an Election Judge at my precinct next Tuesday.
BUT — the kinds of fraud that RFK documents (with over 200 footnotes to other published sources) occur at higher levels. We need to push our elected officials for better answers. NOW!
BTW, the MSM in consortium showed in its most definitive study of the Florida ballots that Gore would have won in 2000, if there had been a total recount. The War on Terror removed that issue from the table, supposedly.
Bush is a thief AND a liar.
i love algore as much as anyone BUT, when he was on freshair with terry gross this week i could have whacked him upside the head. he said he thought w was a very smart man but incurious. HE CAN’T SAY THINGS LIKE THAT. the only thing listeners will take away from that broadcast is the fact that al said w was smart. i want him to be the fire breathing dragon that he is when he gives one of his barn burner speeches. please al. the time has come.
those clunky mechanical voting machines with levers and curtains were put into place to overcome the multitudinous deficiencies of paper ballots … but God help us from those “electronic voting doogies” ! Thoroughly evil!
In Indpls we now use machine-readable paper ballots. Quick tallying with a recount-audit-trail ! I like it …
Our Human Rights Campaign response made HuffPo:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....22035.html
egregious @ #22, great suggestions! In OR I won’t be able to use those techniques as we have the very sane and democratic vote-by-mail system. Hmmm, maybe I need to take a protect-the-voters vacation somewhere warm this Nov.
looseheadrop #34
Republicans have this staff of financed thugs that go out and do evil. If Kerry would have gone forth, prior to the ground being softened up, he would have looked like a whiny crybaby.
The pattern of voter suppresion was vast and rampant and easily recognizable long before election day. The fact that the dems did not have a foaming at the mouth (non-partisan nacherly) voters advocate screaming for months prior and pointing to the huge fraud heading our way for election day is our fault as a party.
WE know they lie and cheat and steal everything that is not nailed down, when they don’t have a prybar. Every move any republican makes must be met with shouts of fraud and foul. We do not need to use dirty tricks, but we better damn well know they will.
I don’t expect Republicans to be anything but criminals. But where the hell are the Democrats??? And I mean besides RFK Jr. Jane’s closing thought is right - there is nothing more sacred to this American democracy than preserving and protecting the right to vote! I’m so livid I could scream.
egregious - left you a post (#129) on last thread regarding LWV’s internal controversy over the paper verified ballots.
Washington State just ruled two weeks ago to permanently switch to all absentee voting. Not everyone is so trusting of that alternative either.
Oscar’s mom - I just called all my state reps (including the governor) asking why the Dems are rolling over so pathetically on the Pharmacy Board ruling.
egregious,
want to be part of the 50 state project?
OK. I have to ask. Let’s say that some manner of unequivocal evidence surfaces… “proving” massive election fraud in ‘04 and a national gooper conspiracy to execute it… Fitz finds documents in Karl Rove’s safe deposit box, a corporate officer at Dieblood comes clean and produces documentary evidence, whatever. Then what? Obviously, prosecutions may result. But how about otherwise? Are any remedies available for the American people? For Senator Kerry? Is there any scenario where an election could be set aside years after the fact? Could the gooper party be put out of business with financial damages? Who would be able to sue with a reasonable expectation that such damages might be awarded?
An Astonishing Article. My tinfoil hat is glowing bright red. It is crystal clear. Corporate media has totally covered up the GOPs stab into the heart of American Democracy.
Bradblog was my first blog. He is the best. This is all old news to me also. But it may be a very big deal. Finally.
Percy
Yes yes yes!!!!
How about one old rusty voting machine in each republican precinct, permanently frozen to elect democrats. We could say the republicans cut the funding to buy new ones to pay for tax breaks for the wealthy.
If you have a problem, just rattle your jewelry for attention.
Hillary sends Chertoff a postcard.
http://clinton.senate.gov/postcards/index.cfm
Linked from Taylor Marsh.
The Rovian serenity prayer:
“Oh, great God-like Machiavelli,”
“Grant me the serenity to rat-fuck the bastards I cannot change,”
“the courage to streamroll the stupid spineless fucks I can,”
“and the wisdom to always expertly cover my tracks so they never know the difference.”
………….
Cynical much?
You bet.
I don’t understand why this wasn’t one of the centerpiece issues, led by Mr. “I’ll-Fight-for-Every-Vote” (yeah, right) Kerry, after the ‘04 election?
(Hell, after the ‘00 election for that matter.)
If the American electorate can’t trust the integrity of the election apparatus, if it isn’t transparent to all, it makes a lot of folks pretty jaundiced about not only voting but getting involved in change in betwixt elections, especially in the age of accepted governmental mendacity.
A lotta people figure: “What fucking difference does it make if the fix is in anyway?”
Can anyone say they have faith in the integrity of the vote collection and countiing in 2006?
I can’t.
p.s. Bingo in Kerry vs. Gore, looseheadprop @ 35. Exactly. Ex-fucking-actly.
Fool me once …
Goddammit, just give us #2 pencils and turn us loose on that ballot!
WHY NOT?
Robert Kennedy Jr. and Al Gore spoke at the Sierra Club biggie last fall. It was hard for me to decide which I liked best so I finally decided it was a draw. It has been a long time (definitely since 2000 but probably far before that) since I have been impressed by anyone, period, but these two men have succeeded.
Gore 2008!
Draft Al Gore for President!
I saw a post today on Raw Story (I think) quoting a poll saying that Gore in ‘08 would win in a landslide if he were the Dem nominee-Hillary not so much, though. The link isn’t there anymore so maybe it was just my ‘magination.
RFK, Jr.
My family ALL voted for your Uncle JFK. And your Father Robert, would have been elected president if not for his untimely death. Who knows what might have been if “the brothers” had lived. John and Bobby. I still miss you guys. “Abraham, Martin, Rabin, Sadat, Bobby and John”. And Rachel Corrie. My heroes. Sometimes I get sentimental and corny.
Regarding RFK Jr’s. observations in this post: nice to know I wasted my time voting in 2000 and 2004. The stinking fix was in. It makes me want to rage! And where’s the justice? And perhaps more importantly, what about the assurance that future elections will not be rigged?
stealing elections with paper ballots is a highly-developed skill-set. that’s why those clunky mechanical devices were instituted. they did cut down fraud…
Election Fraud Blame Game:
1) Republicans, for doing it.
2) The entire MSM (Olberman excepted) for not only ignoring the issue, but laughing at it.
3) The Democrats (with the exception of Conyers)for rolling over on their collective backs and saying, “Help yourself, soft spot’s right there in the middle.”
Keith Olbermann will be on at 8pm - I wonder what he’ll have to say about the RFK,Jr article …
mc 64..no, you did not dream it..it was there.
Gore 2008
Re: Gore v. Hillary:
Gore would unite the Democrats.
Hillary would unite the Republicans.
End of story!
Is CNN reporting this story?
Well, who cares? Because the new Batwoman is a Lesbian!
“New Batwoman is a lesbian
Editor: ‘We decided to give her a different point of view’”
No link. I just can’t take this shit anymore!!!!
How about, “President Gore ‘08″? :)
Sorry mc . . . but your wording has me ROFLMAO!
Chertoff on the NewsHour spinning how the disorganized pork that is the DHS really, really makes sense. He talks about running a program that is not a hostage to political fortune.
Sorry, had to stop for a while due to gagging. He’s talking very fast, always a good sign that he’s lying.
Blub,
At the time, the election could have been set aside (at least state elctions can be. I need to double check on federal) and a new election held e few weeks later by court order.
it’s rare, but it happens. it happened in NY after Spetember 11th. That was primary day here and the vote was interupted. So, the vote was set aside and the primary day was rescheduled.
There is some sort of similar provision in Federal Election Law. IIRC there were rumors shortly before the 2004 election that Bush had asked for memos about what happens if you have to abort the voting on election day. I beleive the same section of the fed election law deals with revote if a election’s results are corrupted (I used the word in the “data is corrupted” not criminal corruption sense of the word)to a certain point of unreliabilty.
There is ceratinly common law and state stautory law along those lines.
At this late date, I think the only thing left would be impeachment and then trial for treason. I cannot imagine anything that would fit the definition of treason more aptly than the deliberate coordinated nationwide sabotage of an election.
But I don’t think you are going to find this mythical iron clad, open and shut case, evidence.
I used to investigate and prosecute public corruption and fraud aginst the governent cases (hence all the fun days with the mafia)
Cases like that do not ever come as windfalls. they are built. Painstakingly one tiny piece of the puzzle at a time. And they are best built PROACTIVELY. B/C no one wants to believe you, you have to get there before the bad guy and catch him red handed in the act.
that’s why what Fitz is doing is so very hard and is taking so long. Cases where the corrupt official or fraudster has had a chance to cover his tracks, are the hardest of them all.
if Catwoman comes out now as a lesbian, when will Batman and Robin travel to Massachusetts for their nuptials?
What’s so appalling to me is that for the level of fraud that occured in ‘04 to succeed required a willingness to lie, cheat and steal at every level of the electoral process. We already know there’s no honor among the upper echelon of the GOP. Is there none even among the rank and file of the Republican party? (That’s a rhetorical question, btw.)
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for president?
Geez, ya finally do Chicago Tom’s issue, he doesn’t call, he doesn’t write…
Oscarsmom (73): Yeah, I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
The absurdity of it all-stealing elections, in America?!, Batwoman a lesbian?!-I guess it’s just par for the course in Bushworld.
in politics, truth will out - usually long after it makes any difference. The story of the stolen election in Ohio will dribble out for years. Too many were involved for it to remain concealed forever…
Slightly OT
How hot is that pix of Kennedy? What is he running for? That was not some poloroid pulled out at the last minute. A lot of thought went into that picture.
Upcoming breaking news on Tweety–Major story:
Is Hillary Clinton thinking about running for president?
Crimes against Democracy:
Ballot stuffing, electronic manipulation, voter purging, voter intimidation, voter deception, phone jamming, libel, campaign finance violations….
Anyone convicted of a Crime against Democracy should be banned for life from participating in any capacity in our Democracy.
Convicted New Hampshire phone jammer McGee is out of prison and now conducting workshops on how to screw with Democracy.
John Sununu owes his Senate seat to this criminal.
Sununu should be forced to step down.
Screw with Democracy - lose your position and your vote - for life!
I just read the piece in full. Wow.
How do I feel? Afraid. It makes me think that all the activism is worthless. When it comes down to it, they control the registration and the count and the technology. Ken Blackwell is in charge of the polls for his own election.
If the basic tools of democratic change have been wrested from people, then the only recourse is clear. And it’s spelled out in the Declaration of Independence. That is not a historical document.
Is CNN reporting this story?
Nah. Olbermann will — he’s cited for his reporting on Warren County’s Code-Red lockdown. But Tweety? Sniffing Hillary’s laundry bag. Blitzer? Nah. Loud Obbs? He’s more concerned about those durned brown people.
Here is a couple of other extremely interesting stuff excerpts from the FL State U Review. I find what he says about the lack of conscionable leadership and the decline of civil society to be fascinating.
Very important story - alas, though I can just hear the crickets from the MSM and the Swiftboats docking at RFK, Jr.’s pier.
Batwoman’s a lesbian? Is she blond and is she missing?
Good job shoephone–I will do the same.
A couple of questions and a comment.
First, has there ever been a national election that has been overturned because of voter fraud?
Second, what is the recourse for voter fraud in a national election?
The comments about Kerry not protesting…isn’t this similar to Nixon not protesting the IL results in the JFK election?
Steve
#82: HOT
;)
Oh, but the ends justify the means…or so Mary Matalin and Laura Ingraham…and Laura Bush…will tell themselves when they look in their mirrors. And behind their well-manicured faces is the cold corrupt spirit of Sleeping Beauty’s wretched stepmother. These are among the stepmothers of totalitarianism.
But, really, isn’t the sex life of Bill and Hill much more important? Tweety surely thinks so. And the old media band plays on.
This is only the latest example.
Remember the Butterfly Ballot, and Jews for Buchanan in Palm Beach?
Theresa LaPore was behind that one — in the 1980’s, she worked as a flight attendant on the private plane of Adnan Khashoggi, the Bush Family Arms Merchant during Iran-Contra. The Crime Family that plans ahead, gets ahead.
http://slate.msn.com/?id=1006609
The ballots in Jacksonville, Duval County, were deliberately misleading — some 20,000 of them were spoiled. African Americans for Gore? Not if Jeb Bush had any say in it.
The vote count in Florida? If all the ballots had been counted, including the overvotes with Al Gore written in and checked on the preprinted portion, Al Gore had 40,000 more votes than George Bush. But the Right Wing SCOTUS put a stop to that.
The illegal false felon list purging of the voter roles, first reported by Greg Palast? Bob Fertik of Democrats.com introduced Paul Lukasiak and I, and we were researching the back story in the spring and summer of 2001 — until the 9/11 unpleasantness changed everything.
Paul was working on what happened between 1998 (when the enabling legislation was passed) and the implementation in 2000. I worked on the Texas origins of the conspiracy — it was a Karl Rove scheme, unsuccessfully tried in 1982 for another Texas Governor.
http://www.democrats.com/blueprint
Can we PLEASE impeach him NOW!?!
so how is this NOT an issue for democrats to run on in 2006 ?
ck - interesting. Everyone just thought LaPore was an utterly incompetent local official who happened to be a position for her dumb decision on the butterfly ballots to influence the outcome of a swing county in a swing state in a national election. That is what I thought. I loathed her, of course, but I never suspected conspiracy. Is there further evidence for this?
Tweety: “What is the Clinton partnership all about?” Let’s see where he goes with this.
Here’s a bit more on some of the the registered letter hijinks that went on back then. While the original article has long since been
scrubbedremoved from the Akron Beacon Jounal site, the transcript of the Board of Elections hearing is still at NPR. It’s a crazy read.Additionally, a look through the All Things Considered archive at NPR.org turns up a lot of reports on the state of things around election time in Ohio.
looseheadprop @ . . . oh, all over the place, here and on earlier threads:
After getting the RFKJr. piece, I’ve been out all day and missed all the fun here . . . but I’ve been quickly scanning the posts and comments to catch up. (Since none of it has made the MSM, of course. . . )
I’ve got to say you’ve put up the best “What Would a Patriot Do?” response to the RFKJr. piece, with the year-round 50 state Democratic Lawyers Council (as opposed to that other “dlc”). I’m not a lawyer (but some of my best friends are ;-)), but I’ve done precinct and county work and that’s where the defense against this attack on democracy has to be made.
On election day, there’s lots to do - but that’s effective only in an after-the-fact situation. Before election day, voters need a lot more.
Before election day, voters to be assured that their names have NOT been stricken from the rolls.
Before election day, voters need to be assured of the locations of their polling places.
Before election day, voters need to be assured that there will be sufficient voting equipment available (be they machines, paper, or stone tablets) at every polling place.
Before election day, voters need to be assured that there will be sufficient elections judges from all parties, who will have been sufficiently trained in their work.
Shove this article in front of every local political reporter you know. Just as 9-11 and Katrina sparked a bunch of “could it happen here?” local introspection, we need to work to see that the Ohio election has the same effect on elections around the country.
And if you live in Ohio, God be with you - ’cause you’re gonna need it if Blackwell becomes governor.
I (and many others) have known this since the election. But most Americans don’t. And the media refuses to cover it.
Thank GOD a Kennedy has taken it up — it will be hard to ignore him. But they will try. Will they succeed?
xyz –
google the names, click on the Slate article . . .
I just received my Harvest cd (Neil Young) for making a donation this weekend! Thanks Joe Klein!! Jane and Redd-I sent you some pay-pal for your trip! Enjoy!
What I’d really like to see are the results of a Bush v. Gore poll NOW–Ha ha!
And I’m not so down on Kerry. How exactly do you fight such root and branch corruption, especially when it’s designed to keep people from voting as well as rigging the vote count?
How do you fight it, when you have no executive power of your own, and when the Supreme Court — even J.P. Stevens — has such naive trust in Ken Blackwell’s goons?
The GOP made sure that this wouldn’t end up like Florida 2000. Then, they miscalculated: the voter suppression wasn’t enough. They understood that Americans wanted a quick result in 2004, endorsed by Timmeh and Tweety, and that any attempt to fight in so many places, on so many jurisdictions, would have no public support.
They are bastards, they are criminals. And it’s time to stop taking knives to a gunfight.
Oscarmon: They don’t do polls when the Preznut is in the teens, silly!
One more thing — “they” cannot do this as easily without OUR help. As Peter noted, there are ways to see if you are registered. And it is YOUR responsibility to ensure this. Did you move? Did you GET your new voter guide — or proof that your re-registration got through? And even if you did not move, same question. Your responsibiluty to make sure, even if you have lived in the same house for years. Every single time.
Citizens MUST take responsibility. SHOULD you have to? Of course not. Register and all should be well. But it isn’t.
And above all — SAVE your receipt from voting. Don’t throw it away or lose it.
The reason why the GOP’s dirty tricks work is that Americans, even the few who DO vote, are lazy.
We knew this.
Now it’s got documentation.
Hooray for Kennedy and Rolling Stone for the guts and fortitude to get this finally accounted for.
But, this is TREASON! If the MSM is not rioting on the front pages for prison terms tomorrow morning, then we should take the day off and riot in the streets! This means that Kerry has been President all along and before him, Al Gore. To say ‘we been robbed’ is okay today–but tomorrow comes the hangings. No more rights and refuge for the Wingnuts–this is war. This is the real war. The real war has always been about our freedom and we’ve only fought one–the one when we kicked the British out. We need another here at home, less the guns maybe, to kick the Fascists out once and for all.
I’m really mad and…well, I can’t say it without an FBI visit.
Just stepping back in in a lull of supper-fixing, so forgive me if I’m repeating somebody else’s point –
I’ve found one thing to be glad about here … sort of.
I find myself feeling a bit better about our fellow Americans than I did before the Kennedy article: enough of them to make ‘04 that close really DIDN’T vote for W. They just got ratfucked.
Now they (after this news spreads more) and we can get together and FIX THAT.
awww ccmask at 102 — what a sweetie! Glad you got your CD. Isn’t Howie fab for doing that? :)
Oh for crying out loud.
I just read about Shrub’s plan to promote a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage.
Please PLEASE can the Dems and the American sheeple not take the bait this time? PLEASE?
They could make such a statement by giving a yes or no answer regarding the amendment and then REFUSING to discuss the matter any further. Call this red herring for what it is! Please! It’s so obvious!!
But, this is TREASON!
‘Treason never prospers: what’s the reason?
If it prosper, none dare call it treason.’
shoephone 52–thanks, got it, please give us an update about what the League of Women Vote