Remember this? –
In those heady months building up to the War-Based-on-Lies, New York Times columnist Ron Suskind made some remarks about then-White House Communications Director Karen Hughes. These bothered the administration. So a senior official (Karl Rove?) took Suskind to task, and as Suskind recounted later in an October 17, 2004 NYT piece, mocked him for being ‘in what we call the reality-based community.’ These are people, the official elaborated, who “believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” The bullying Bush insider warned against such belief, dismissing it as naive: ‘That’s not the way the world really works anymore,’ he declared. ‘We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality, we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.’”
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Dec05/Leupp1210.htm

As I am by no means the first to point out, if all this wasn’t such an incredible disaster, it would be uproariously funny. Neocons should be required to read the story of King Canute, how he would have his throne brought to the seashore when the tide was coming in so he could command it to go out. Well, guess what? It just kept on coming in. That’s how he kept his hubris in check. They had a few wise kings in those days.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste, isn’t it?

“Neoconservatism, as both a political symbol and a body of thought, has evolved into something I can no longer support.”

From After Neoconservatism:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02…..mp;ei=5070

Yet, from this I get: It’s not me, it’s Bush and all things unanticipated. Sure. If you’ve invested cortical time in a plan of preemptive invasion without having asked whether or not it was unethical or a breach of international law, it would be a hard sell to insist the plan had merit, then blame its’ own operatives in the administration for it’s failure.

They are all connected at the brain stem. There is no difference between Cheney and Kristol in the PNAC plan of action.

Their failure was built into the Project for a New American Century. That, and the guaranteed overreaching every extremist is subject to, i.e. Plame. Its what they do.

Interesting that this pre-emptive defensiveness comes at a time when federal investigators/prosecutors are getting uncomfortably close to their working ideologues.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Strauss

Maybe it’s polling numbers, and maybe it’s reality setting in. I don’t know which, since I don’t watch the neocon thinkers closely enough to know. They seem to have been largely disconnected from the reality of what their policies have done. It might be that a few, like Fukuyama and Fuller, have now had the opportunity of conducting a laboratory experiment on their theories and found them lacking. One can hope, anyway.

Maybe it was all that exuberance after the Berlin Wall came down and Communism collapsed that has caused this sort of thinking. All of a sudden there were a dozen or more new “free” countries. Some stayed free, but others, like the ’stans have clearly regressed, and some like Ukraine and Georgia show signs that they might, as well. The reality seems to be that it’s going to take a long time for democracy to take hold in some places. There are clearly many places, like Iraq, that crave democracy but don’t understand how it works yet. It tooks us almost a century to get democracy right enough to where we could write our own constitution. It took another seventy years and a civil war to really cement our version of democracy. Oh, and it took another forty years before all adults were allowed to vote. It’s understandable that it’s going to take some time in other places.

In short, maybe some neocons are learning the value of patience.

I could be wrong, I dont know the breakdown
but I betcha all the anti-immigrant rebel repubs are from seats not affected by the latino vote.

I could be wrong, I dont know the breakdown
but I betcha all the anti-immigrant rebel repubs are from seats not affected by the latino vote.

thanks so much for your response on Fukuyama – lots to dive in and read, but my initial response is

“Where do I start ?!?!”

he’s definitely playing it a little more clothed than Kristol (gee, where’ he been lately -LOL) but good night nurse -

and to hear them tell it, they looove history -so why they chose to ignore it is beyond me. At best, history will treat them as cultists holding sway to the point where a once great nation drove perilously to the brink

I’m sure there’s a more grownup way of saying it, but it’s probably obvious I am at my end with these klowns