“Coulter the Molter”!

…and on that fine note….

“awaiting moderation” seems to be a fickle feature. The few times I’ve been subject to it, posts have appeared between five and 15 min. later, I guess.

(oh, and thanks for the “Vaya con Fritos”)

Was just curious, tho’:

Anyone know how long it typically takes before a comment under moderation is either approved or denied?

178 looseheadprop says:

Jane,

Great , great post. And Kung Foo Monkey just got himself a new fan. One brilliant new catchphrase after another.

Re: the trolls. Every now and then I take a stroll over to Little Green Footballs or some such similar place. What always leaves me wondering is how much time is wasted on insults and personal invective instead of discourse.

I thought we were better than than that.

I’m gonna make myself very unpopular here:

How do we raise the level of discourse by making stupid cracks about molting, and freepers having no soul and generailzed insults? How does imitating them, improve us?

I am not without a sense of humor … When we REDUCE OURSELVES to name calling and insults for insult’s sake, we don’t hurt the “freepers”. To the contrary, we empower them and convince them that that kind of behavior is OK or at least not confined to one side or the other. Kinda like the “Dems Congresscritters are corrupt, too” meme.

Worse, when we do that, we are dumping raw sewage into our own clean beautiful FireDogLake.

I saw a real disconnect between Janes witty and bitng post and the comments, especially in the first 2/3’s of the the thread. The bottom edge of the thread, seemed more like what i have come to expect from this wonderful community of thoughful insightful people.

I’m all for humor, and I love the puns, but let’s try not to be infected by the mindless invective seen on too many other sights.

Let’s not pollute the Lake!

Considering that I was the first to start the “stupid cracks” about molting (and then punaise and I hadda back-and-forth w/some accompaniment from others), I thought I’d bring it to your attention that the very post you are presently enshrining for its witty and biting postlieness (I would agree) also contains the following “disconnect” (in your words) in comments:

8 Jane Hamsher says:

punaise 7 — It’s that wingnut prom Ole 60 Grit is always talking about.

Perhaps you should take your concern up w/Jane?

Look, I don’t happen to agree w/your point or your concern, but that’s neither here nor there. Your characterization strikes me as more fake balance, a false equivalency betwixt LGF and the snark found here.

But that aside, if you think that posting a pic of “Night of the Living Dead” (or whatever film it’s from) somehow doesn’t count as what you are so fretfully describing (”raising the level of discourse”?), but my and others’ cracks about molting somehow do, then it seems to me you aren’t being honest w/yourself — either about the nature of our comments or Jane’s use of similar tactics or both.

Smells like double-standard.

Either we all are wrong to make such cracks (including Jane) or we aren’t. Which is it? Perhaps you should get that straight in your head first before donning your concern chapeau?

You may not like my cracks (”mindless invective”?), which is fine w/me. I also post substantive points (and you might not like or agree w/any of those either).

It’s your prerogative.

But one point you might consider: “concern” can become its own form of, as you say, “re: the trolls”.

And as you say, I thought we were better than that?

You hit it on the head. I don’t have faith that Joe Sixpack could ever understand it, but you hit it on the head.

This is a good read, and elaborates in great depth the points you make:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ…..p;n=283155

I am no psychology Ph.D., but I think the main reason we went to war in Iraq can be summed up in three words:

UNRESOLVED DADDY ISSUES

Georgie wanted so much to win the oneupsmanship game with his Daddy, that he tried to do what he believes his Daddy could not do: oust Saddam and bring democracy to Iraq and the greater Middle East.

Daddy had the sense to NOT steamroll into Baghdad once Kuwait was liberated for the very reasons plaguing us now: insurgency, instability, and chaos. Daddy could actually listen to dissent. Unfortunately, Georgie can’t.

Isn’t it obvious? He has been a piss-poor, pathetic pussy failure in everything he has ever done in his life (Arbusto, anyone? AWOL, anyone? Need I go on the infinite list?). Iraq, although one piece in the overall neocon puzzle, was supposed to be Georgie’s “in your face moment” for his Daddy. It sure ain’t turning out that way, now is it, folks?

On one level, I am overjoyed to see the plummeting approval numbers for the Chimperor and his evil administration. Even Ned Nascar and Wanda Wal-Mart can see what a corrupt evil fuck he is. The American public (well, 66% anyway) has deserted BushCo and the entire neocon fascist movement. And that is giving the nutjobs (like cepan, Seixon, O’Reilly, Hannity, and Coulter, to name just a few) conniptions. I take special glee in watching them writhe in frustration.

On another level, it chills me to the bone that our military can be used as toys in the playground of a psychotic like Georgie. They don’t deserve it.

This post articulates precisely the sentiments i’ll be using as i campaign for progressive dems this summer and fall. Thanks so much,Jane, for your clear-headed thinking and writing.

Strong fighters deserve strong leaders. The troops know this. Unfortunately, BushCo and the Republicans are not strong leaders. They are weaklings who cannot face the truth. They hide behind uniformed personnell fighting abroad to steal money from our soldiers’ families’ taxes back home.