Comments on: A Constitutional Crisis of Cheney’s Making? http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:07:52 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: George LoBuono http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/#comment-125132 George LoBuono Wed, 31 May 2006 17:04:13 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/#comment-125132 <p>Bush is a sociopath who was rewarded as a child for antisocial behaviors. He wants to be like his father and prefers to ignore all outward indicators that he’s a failure. The worse he fouls up, the greater he thinks himself. To Bush, the Constitution is merely a convenient fiction. In his mind, the JFK hit and the rise of Rockefeller and the robber barons were the end of constitutional government. Now he’s merely owning up to the truth behind the fiction. Bush’s only contribution to US history is to have forced a crisis over criminal regime-think, yet Bush will sabotage all efforts to hold his kind accountable. Some of his remarks are literally delusional: he said he has done more for human freedom than any other president, etc. Very bad karma.</p> Bush is a sociopath who was rewarded as a child for antisocial behaviors. He wants to be like his father and prefers to ignore all outward indicators that he’s a failure. The worse he fouls up, the greater he thinks himself. To Bush, the Constitution is merely a convenient fiction. In his mind, the JFK hit and the rise of Rockefeller and the robber barons were the end of constitutional government. Now he’s merely owning up to the truth behind the fiction. Bush’s only contribution to US history is to have forced a crisis over criminal regime-think, yet Bush will sabotage all efforts to hold his kind accountable. Some of his remarks are literally delusional: he said he has done more for human freedom than any other president, etc. Very bad karma.

]]> By: George LoBuono http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/#comment-125120 George LoBuono Wed, 31 May 2006 16:57:58 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/#comment-125120 <p>The worst president in US history, one of questionable legitimacy, trying to sabotage the Constitution? Bush is like a little boy playing the role of his father: a complete failure in his past business doings (only soaked Texas for public $ at the very end), installed in various posts through family cronyism, and now, playing the role of junior majesty. Bush’s is self-hypnotic, a dry drunk who bans opposing voices from his speeches and ignores external indicators that he’s losing it. His only contribution to US history is to have forced a crisis over criminal regime-think. The spoiled child of rich parents, he thinks he’s as great and imposing as the architecture that surrounds him and the juvenile associations he makes in his mind re his dad, the NWO mafia, and a cabal of formerly pro-fascist manipulators who frequented such places in the past. Rewarded for antisocial behaviors in the past (regime crimes for which he wasn’t caught), he is incapable of sorting out public affairs in terms of right and wrong. Instead, he thinks that public accountability is all a lie, as is public history, because criminal elements have always tried to rule through criminal economics. In Bush’s mind, the Constitution was overthrown years ago, when JFK was hit, if not decades earlier (the rise of Rockefeller and the robber barons), a mere concession to “the little people.”</p> The worst president in US history, one of questionable legitimacy, trying to sabotage the Constitution? Bush is like a little boy playing the role of his father: a complete failure in his past business doings (only soaked Texas for public $ at the very end), installed in various posts through family cronyism, and now, playing the role of junior majesty. Bush’s is self-hypnotic, a dry drunk who bans opposing voices from his speeches and ignores external indicators that he’s losing it. His only contribution to US history is to have forced a crisis over criminal regime-think. The spoiled child of rich parents, he thinks he’s as great and imposing as the architecture that surrounds him and the juvenile associations he makes in his mind re his dad, the NWO mafia, and a cabal of formerly pro-fascist manipulators who frequented such places in the past. Rewarded for antisocial behaviors in the past (regime crimes for which he wasn’t caught), he is incapable of sorting out public affairs in terms of right and wrong. Instead, he thinks that public accountability is all a lie, as is public history, because criminal elements have always tried to rule through criminal economics. In Bush’s mind, the Constitution was overthrown years ago, when JFK was hit, if not decades earlier (the rise of Rockefeller and the robber barons), a mere concession to “the little people.”

]]> By: e p o n y m o u s http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/#comment-125003 e p o n y m o u s Wed, 31 May 2006 15:50:51 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/#comment-125003 <p>[…] If you want to avoid upsetting the freepers, don’t challenge their narrative on the War On [Some] Terror: There is no "War on Terror."  There is only a war on the law, a conscious destruction of the U. S. Constitution.  This is not the first time right wing interests have attempted to overthrow the U. S. government.  An attempt was thwarted during the FDR administration. Then as now, America’s greatest enemies come from among the ranks of America’s ruling master class. […]</p> […] If you want to avoid upsetting the freepers, don’t challenge their narrative on the War On [Some] Terror: There is no "War on Terror."  There is only a war on the law, a conscious destruction of the U. S. Constitution.  This is not the first time right wing interests have attempted to overthrow the U. S. government.  An attempt was thwarted during the FDR administration. Then as now, America’s greatest enemies come from among the ranks of America’s ruling master class. […]

]]> By: Magnus Avarus http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/#comment-124506 Magnus Avarus Wed, 31 May 2006 00:05:59 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/#comment-124506 <p>Thanks to all. Many good points made.<br /> Maira, I too saw “B..E.R.” and horrific as that was I promise you that it is Much worse for the civilian victims of this abomination.<br /> Will the USSA (United Sleepwalking States of America) ever awaken?</p> Thanks to all. Many good points made.
Maira, I too saw “B..E.R.” and horrific as that was I promise you that it is Much worse for the civilian victims of this abomination.
Will the USSA (United Sleepwalking States of America) ever awaken?

]]> By: Maira http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/#comment-124118 Maira Tue, 30 May 2006 17:21:19 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/#comment-124118 <p>I watched “Bagdhad E.R.” last night. I know the court of King George didn’t want it to be on… something about “national security”… I have been against this war and against the authoritarian regime of the Burning Bush since before he was selected by the Supreme Court. But this show… it was the most horrific thing I’ve ever seen; I forced myself to watch it. I cried and yelled and wanted to throw up all through out- and every single person in America who supports this war as “necessary” to our “freedom” should watch this and see what the F%#@ is really happening to the soldiers- not to mention the thousands of Iraqi victims! Be forewarned: “Bagdhad E.R.” makes John Carpenter movies look like a cakewalk; it’s not just blood-soaked floors from blown-off body parts, these are real scenes of real people of real casualties. The only punishment anywhere close to being justified for the nefarious war criminals- Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, et al- is for them to be the person in a war-torn emergency room putting blown-off body parts into plastic bags, 24/7, for the rest of their disgusting lives. May they all burn in bloody Hell for all etenity.</p> I watched “Bagdhad E.R.” last night. I know the court of King George didn’t want it to be on… something about “national security”… I have been against this war and against the authoritarian regime of the Burning Bush since before he was selected by the Supreme Court. But this show… it was the most horrific thing I’ve ever seen; I forced myself to watch it. I cried and yelled and wanted to throw up all through out- and every single person in America who supports this war as “necessary” to our “freedom” should watch this and see what the F%#@ is really happening to the soldiers- not to mention the thousands of Iraqi victims! Be forewarned: “Bagdhad E.R.” makes John Carpenter movies look like a cakewalk; it’s not just blood-soaked floors from blown-off body parts, these are real scenes of real people of real casualties. The only punishment anywhere close to being justified for the nefarious war criminals- Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, et al- is for them to be the person in a war-torn emergency room putting blown-off body parts into plastic bags, 24/7, for the rest of their disgusting lives. May they all burn in bloody Hell for all etenity.

]]> By: Will Wilkin http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/#comment-123290 Will Wilkin Tue, 30 May 2006 00:50:18 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/#comment-123290 <p>Welcome to the Brave New World where all wars are permanent, open-ended constitutional crises. But we worry too much. The best Roman era was the early Caesar period. So I guess the American Renaissance is just a little hard to recognize under the totalitarian skeleton needed to prop it all up. Huge economic and state-bureaucratic interests cannot normally be opposed. These take revolutionary moments, a mass euphoria and outrage channeled into a better vision, though unfortuately a vision that falls victim to revolutionary methods. </p> <p>All Out For the WAR! Victory at any cost! Questions are treason! All power to the Executive! Trust your leaders! </p> <p>Drug War. Terror War. Immigration War. The “Long War.” The Republicrats have no initiatives except WAR. Permanent, open-ended wars are more important than 40 million uninsured, tens of millions of mothers and children in poverty, millions in jail for non-violent drug “offenses.” More important than the Constitution! </p> <p>You too can get paid by joining the war effort! Be a lawyer or prison guard or cop or rehab counselor or Ad Council-type propagandist or addiction-researcher or pee-tester. Or be a politician with a handy scapegoat for the poverty, alienation and social problems their system brings. </p> <p>Do it for God, do it for country, or do it for money. At root they all seem to be the same thing anyway, just a question of whether your timeframe is eternal, historic, or ephemeral.</p> Welcome to the Brave New World where all wars are permanent, open-ended constitutional crises. But we worry too much. The best Roman era was the early Caesar period. So I guess the American Renaissance is just a little hard to recognize under the totalitarian skeleton needed to prop it all up. Huge economic and state-bureaucratic interests cannot normally be opposed. These take revolutionary moments, a mass euphoria and outrage channeled into a better vision, though unfortuately a vision that falls victim to revolutionary methods.

All Out For the WAR! Victory at any cost! Questions are treason! All power to the Executive! Trust your leaders!

Drug War. Terror War. Immigration War. The “Long War.” The Republicrats have no initiatives except WAR. Permanent, open-ended wars are more important than 40 million uninsured, tens of millions of mothers and children in poverty, millions in jail for non-violent drug “offenses.” More important than the Constitution!

You too can get paid by joining the war effort! Be a lawyer or prison guard or cop or rehab counselor or Ad Council-type propagandist or addiction-researcher or pee-tester. Or be a politician with a handy scapegoat for the poverty, alienation and social problems their system brings.

Do it for God, do it for country, or do it for money. At root they all seem to be the same thing anyway, just a question of whether your timeframe is eternal, historic, or ephemeral.

]]> By: Will Wilkin http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/#comment-123281 Will Wilkin Tue, 30 May 2006 00:43:59 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/#comment-123281 <p>I agree, Marjie, the Dems are equally complicit in the imperial disintegration of this republic. Of course Blacks and Natives and potsmokers have always known it is a totalitarian society in its own ways. The Republicrats have made this a one-party state. Democracy is a ruse, but most people require so little freedom in practice and actually don’t give a hoot for the freedoms of others, especially those freedoms they themselves have no impulse to exercise. The drug war is our own domestic Abu Ghraib, but how many “progressives” are actually working to replace drug prohibition with legal regulation?</p> <p>There are no meaningful choices in the US electoral system. The factions are a few inches apart above the surface, but really they are a single iceburg of huge common imperial interests, joined just below the surface.</p> <p>Vote Schmote, the Democrats can go to hell where they belong.</p> I agree, Marjie, the Dems are equally complicit in the imperial disintegration of this republic. Of course Blacks and Natives and potsmokers have always known it is a totalitarian society in its own ways. The Republicrats have made this a one-party state. Democracy is a ruse, but most people require so little freedom in practice and actually don’t give a hoot for the freedoms of others, especially those freedoms they themselves have no impulse to exercise. The drug war is our own domestic Abu Ghraib, but how many “progressives” are actually working to replace drug prohibition with legal regulation?

There are no meaningful choices in the US electoral system. The factions are a few inches apart above the surface, but really they are a single iceburg of huge common imperial interests, joined just below the surface.

Vote Schmote, the Democrats can go to hell where they belong.

]]> By: moonsha http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/#comment-123276 moonsha Tue, 30 May 2006 00:39:35 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/#comment-123276 <p>How about Republican Bobblehead led Congress then? Yes, President Bush whatever you say. yes…yes…yes</p> How about Republican Bobblehead led Congress then? Yes, President Bush whatever you say. yes…yes…yes

]]> By: Will Wilkin http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/#comment-123265 Will Wilkin Tue, 30 May 2006 00:33:03 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/#comment-123265 <p>Senator Lieberman:</p> <p>Since 2001, the National Security Agency has collected records of billions of phone calls within the USA. First Bush denied the spying was taking place. When exposed he said it was limited in scope. Then-Gen. Michael Hayden, now Director of the CIA, lied as recently as January that the surveillance was “highly targeted” and of “international communications.”</p> <p>What happened to the Fourth Amendment requiring a warrant for searches? What happened to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act? Now the FBI is searching through the phone records of ABC news reporters –it feels like totalitarianism when the only thing illegal for the govt to do anymore is to leak to reporters about illegal govt activity. And you do nothing to stop it. The Constitution is an illusion, a Civics class trick played on the sheep told there is a multi-party democracy here. Your indistinguishability from the Administration proves how false all that is!</p> <p>Indeed, what happened to the separation of powers in the US govt? For even before the Administration dispensed with the Judicial branch and initiated a massive unwarranted domestic spying project, you, Sen. Lieberman, led the Legislative branch into abrogating its Constitutional authority and responsibility to declare war, handing this decision-making power to the President. We now have a single-branch govt, the EXECUTIVE, & stumps called Judiciary and Legislature.</p> <p>You have pushed so hard to make this war that has been sold to us on lies and hypocrisy. Rumsfeld was in Iraq shaking Saddam Hussein’s hand, representing the Reagan Administration when poison gas was being used by the Iraq govt. US intelligence knew this in the summer of 1983, before Rumsfeld’s handshake with Hussein in Dec 1983. Chemical weapons were ok with the US govt when Hussein was considered an ally. Its a war of hypocrisy, and the rest of the world sees it even if your voters don’t.</p> <p>Bush lied to all of us to get us into this Iraq war. This is most definitely a “high crime and misdemeanor” and he should have been impeached as soon as it was revealed how “the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy,” as the Downing Street memo put it. Meanwhile, the Administration has launched an unwarranted mass domestic spying program, and lied repeatedly about it, and spied on journalists reporting it. But instead of working to impeach him, you have run away even from Sen. Feingold’s censure resolution. You are part of this coup.</p> <p>Senator Lieberman, you are Bush’s man, can’t you do something about this?</p> <p>Sincerely, </p> <p>Will Wilkin</p> Senator Lieberman:

Since 2001, the National Security Agency has collected records of billions of phone calls within the USA. First Bush denied the spying was taking place. When exposed he said it was limited in scope. Then-Gen. Michael Hayden, now Director of the CIA, lied as recently as January that the surveillance was “highly targeted” and of “international communications.”

What happened to the Fourth Amendment requiring a warrant for searches? What happened to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act? Now the FBI is searching through the phone records of ABC news reporters –it feels like totalitarianism when the only thing illegal for the govt to do anymore is to leak to reporters about illegal govt activity. And you do nothing to stop it. The Constitution is an illusion, a Civics class trick played on the sheep told there is a multi-party democracy here. Your indistinguishability from the Administration proves how false all that is!

Indeed, what happened to the separation of powers in the US govt? For even before the Administration dispensed with the Judicial branch and initiated a massive unwarranted domestic spying project, you, Sen. Lieberman, led the Legislative branch into abrogating its Constitutional authority and responsibility to declare war, handing this decision-making power to the President. We now have a single-branch govt, the EXECUTIVE, & stumps called Judiciary and Legislature.

You have pushed so hard to make this war that has been sold to us on lies and hypocrisy. Rumsfeld was in Iraq shaking Saddam Hussein’s hand, representing the Reagan Administration when poison gas was being used by the Iraq govt. US intelligence knew this in the summer of 1983, before Rumsfeld’s handshake with Hussein in Dec 1983. Chemical weapons were ok with the US govt when Hussein was considered an ally. Its a war of hypocrisy, and the rest of the world sees it even if your voters don’t.

Bush lied to all of us to get us into this Iraq war. This is most definitely a “high crime and misdemeanor” and he should have been impeached as soon as it was revealed how “the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy,” as the Downing Street memo put it. Meanwhile, the Administration has launched an unwarranted mass domestic spying program, and lied repeatedly about it, and spied on journalists reporting it. But instead of working to impeach him, you have run away even from Sen. Feingold’s censure resolution. You are part of this coup.

Senator Lieberman, you are Bush’s man, can’t you do something about this?

Sincerely,

Will Wilkin

]]> By: Christy Hardin Smith http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/#comment-123087 Christy Hardin Smith Mon, 29 May 2006 20:40:00 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/28/a-constitutional-crisis-of-cheneys-making/#comment-123087 <p>marjie at 132 — Since the Republicans control both houses of Congress at the moment, and control what goes to the floor for a vote, what goes up for a committee vote and pretty much every other aspect — I’ll continue to call it Rubber Stamp Republican Congress until they no longer have full control. We call the Democrats on their lack of fortitude plenty here — but the fact of the matter is that Republicans control both the executive and legislative branches and the moment and the first step to making things better, IMHO, is kicking their butts out of congressional control.</p> marjie at 132 — Since the Republicans control both houses of Congress at the moment, and control what goes to the floor for a vote, what goes up for a committee vote and pretty much every other aspect — I’ll continue to call it Rubber Stamp Republican Congress until they no longer have full control. We call the Democrats on their lack of fortitude plenty here — but the fact of the matter is that Republicans control both the executive and legislative branches and the moment and the first step to making things better, IMHO, is kicking their butts out of congressional control.

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