
The Boston Globe’s Charlie Savage has a follow-up article on Presidential signing statements — building on his previous piece of fantastic reporting on the issue — and this one concentrates on the role of Dick Cheney and David Addington in shaping the Administration’s "unitary executive" theories and actions.
We’ve done quite a bit of reporting and discussion on the constitutional issues that have arisen in the Bush Administration – from illegal domestic spying without a warrant; to unconstitutional disregard of separation of powers issues in a whole host of topics, including the signing statements that keep getting appended to legislation in direct contravention of the "congress makes the laws, the executive enforces them" premise; to a failure altogether to recognize that the laws apply to everyone, even the President of the United States.
But this Boston Globe piece seems to tie all the loose ends of all this into a coherent whole — with Dick Cheney and his obsession with "restoring" executive power to what he sees as Nixonian levels as its guiding force.
The President has appended signing statements to more than 705 pieces of legislation. In a lot of cases, this has not had to do with clarification in terms of an ambiguity or some other minor point — but has, in fact, changed the meaning of the legislation itself. In other words, instead of following the constitutional mandate, the Executive Branch is now effectively legislating on its own.
Not exactly following the ‘strict construction’ model of Constitutional interpretation there, are we, sir?
But in frequency and aggression, the current President Bush has gone far beyond his predecessors.
All previous presidents combined challenged fewer than 600 laws, Kelley’s data show, compared with the more than 750 Bush has challenged in five years. Bush is also the first president since the 1800s who has never vetoed a bill, giving Congress no chance to override his judgments.
Douglas Kmiec , who as head of the Office of Legal Counsel helped develop the Reagan administration’s strategy of issuing signing statements more frequently, said he disapproves of the “provocative" and sometimes “disingenuous" manner in which the Bush administration is using them.
Kmiec said the Reagan team’s goal was to leave a record of the president’s understanding of new laws only in cases where an important statute was ambiguous. Kmiec rejected the idea of using signing statements to contradict the clear intent of Congress, as Bush has done. Presidents should either tolerate provisions of bills they don’t like, or they should veto the bill, he said.
"Following a model of restraint, [the Reagan-era Office of Legal Counsel] took it seriously that we were to construe statutes to avoid constitutional problems, not to invent them," said Kmiec, who is now a Pepperdine University law professor.
Does it sink in at all for George Bush that the Reagan Administration’s signing statement architect thinks that Bush has gone way, way over the line? That his actions overreach constitutional boundaries for separation of powers issues? I doubt it — because the engineer of all of this for the Bush Administration has been Dick Cheney, and his legal surrogate, David Addington. Apparently, Bush has simply been along for the policy ride on this one.
The office of Vice President Dick Cheney routinely reviews pieces of legislation before they reach the president’s desk, searching for provisions that Cheney believes would infringe on presidential power, according to former White House and Justice Department officials.The officials said Cheney’s legal adviser and chief of staff, David Addington , is the Bush a dministration’s leading architect of the “signing statements" the president has appended to more than 750 laws. The statements assert the president’s right to ignore the laws because they conflict with his interpretation of the Constitution.
The Bush-Cheney administration has used such statements to claim for itself the option of bypassing a ban on torture, oversight provisions in the USA Patriot Act, and numerous requirements that they provide certain information to Congress, among other laws.
Previous vice presidents have had neither the authority nor the interest in reviewing legislation. But Cheney has used his power over the administration’s legal team to promote an expansive theory of presidential authority. Using signing statements, the administration has challenged more laws than all previous administrations combined.
“Addington could look at whatever he wanted," said one former White House lawyer who helped prepare signing statements and who asked not to be named because he was describing internal deliberations. "He had a roving commission to get involved in whatever interested him."
A roving Executive Branch commission to get involved in any legislation that interested Dick Cheney or David Addington before it ever hit the President’s desk? Influencing the DoJ attorneys to do likewise to make Cheney happy? Does this start to sound familiar in terms of thestories that were floated that the CIA was shaping its findings to make Dick Cheney happy after repeated meetings with the Veep and Scooter Libby? Anyone else seeing a pattern here?
Look, I think the US Constitution is pretty clear in Article I as to where the legislative powers of government are vested:
Section 1. All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives….
Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;
To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;
To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;
To establish post offices and post roads;
To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;
To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;
To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;
To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;
To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;
To provide and maintain a navy;
To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;
To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;–And
To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
Pretty straight forward, isn’t it? The President’s recourse if he disagrees with legislation is also quite clear — he can veto the legislation and see if his veto holds up to the potential override vote of Congress. And that is it.
The fact that this has now been ongoing for five years — with no real pushback from the Rubber Stamp Republican Congress — is appalling. The fact that it crept through the entire executive branch, and especially the DoJ, is beyond appalling:
Knowing that Addington was likely to review the bills, other White House and Justice Department lawyers began vetting legislation with Addington’s and Cheney’s views in mind, according to another former lawyer in the Bush White House.
All these lawyers, he said, were extremely careful to flag any provision that placed limits on presidential power.
“You didn’t want to miss something," said the second former White House lawyer, who also asked not to be named.
That Dick Cheney has been obsessed with the powers of the Executive and the unitary executive theories since well before his days in the Ford Administration is documented in the Boston Globe article. It is well worth a thorough read. That George Bush has signed off on this — and allowed the Cheney/Addington theory to permeate his entire legal structure throughout the executive branch is beyond appalling. And I keep coming back to Swopa’s Empty Suit theory as I read this and think about it — just who exactly IS in charge?
I’d say that this is high time for some much-needed Congressional oversight, but I’m not holding my breath that the Rubber Stamp Republican Congress gives a rats ass that it has traded in its mandate and Constitutional duties for a few shiny baubles and a pat on the head from Dick Cheney. Shame on all of them.
(Walter Pincus does offer a tiny sliver of hope for oversight on at least one intelligence issue this morning – and good on Sen. Ron Wyden. And may I say, it’s about damn time.)
(H/T to reader Blank Kludge for the heads up on the Boston Globe article this morning.)




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Is there a good way to take Cheney out of the system, besides doing something to give him another heart attack?
Oh, yeah: Fitz!
“President Bystander” strikes again!
I hate to think what the shooter would do if he were to become the actual pResident. The mind boggles.
What will the GOP do when a democrat president uses one of Bush’s signing statements as precident?
i’m here in boston & read this this morning. good to see it on page 1, above the fold. CHILLING, excellent reporting.
Quite a few years back I read Sinclair Lewis’ “It Can’t Happen Here”, published, I believe in the 1930’s about a dimwit that was instituted as the front man in the governmen actually ran by the dishonest cartel of corporations, communications, and religion. How sadly, this “fiction” has come true to life with this b*sh administration.
Cheney is as the evil Grigory Yefimovich was. Dick, the Faustian operator, behind the scenes. Dick Cheney, Beelzebub’s right hand. Hopefully, God will have a special place for Cheney on Judgement Day.
Why am I not surprised at this? I am delighted that at least a fringe of the MSM are doing some delving into the issue, but George W has always had others do all of the heavy lifting for him. What a feckless man he is.
When will the Fitz crap on this site stop? Fitz is so far beyond and above anyone who comments here that it is arrogant and demeaning to turn him into a trashy footbaal idol.
The whole point of the U.S. Constitution, in the first place, is that presidential powers are enumerated, not inherent.
Quentin
blah, blah, blah, TROLL, blah blah
I keep remembering the movie they showed, many years ago, in one of my social-studies classes. It had a [communist] coup done by taking over a political party from inside, while people were busy exercising their apathy. The method obviously works, even if they got the party wrong.
Quentin, it’s tradition, okay?
Well that links it all up nice and neat.Very good work Charlie,bravo!
Can Congress not see that what the goal here is? To me at least,it looks exactly like the Executive wants to completely eliminate the Legislative branch altogether,or at the very least make it completely non functional(which is pretty much the case as it stands now)and obsolete.(it’s the old break it and then say”see,we told you it was broken”bullshit).Now why in the hell would you participate in the demise of your own job? Even planning a post Congress career to be a lobbyist later won’t mean a thing if there’s no one to lobby,right? If nothing else I’d think greed and hubris would motivate some sense of self preservation.I find it odd that’s missing,for the most part,or so it seems.
If I believed in such things,I’d swear Cheney is the antichrist.The more I find out about him,the more I get creeped out.He’s evil.Does anyone know anything about his early life? Something had to have gone terribly wrong early on.
From the current Vanity Fair:
Larry Wilkerson, “There was one air-force guy who worked for Cheney for quite a while, and he says, ‘I liked the man,’ but he said, ‘I’d use this word: amoral,’” Wilkerson recalls. “And I asked if ‘you understand what you’re saying?’ And he said, ‘Yep, I’m saying he’s Machiavelli’s prince writ large.’”
It’s hard to find a word that adequately expresses the enormity of what is laid out above.
Am I surprised that Cheney’s fingerprints are all over this? Not really. Am I appalled that legislation has been crafted with Cheney’s parameters in mind? Yeah, I am.
The question that keeps reverberating in my mind is, “Who the hell do these people think they are???”
This is just beyond the pale, way, way beyond. This is the kind of thing that could irretrievably change our country, as we knew it, if it has not already.
While the foundation of this country begins to resemble Swiss cheese, most of America will be more interested in Baby Jolie-Pitt.
Sad. Chilling. Frightening. Criminal.
It’s time for them to go.
I’m sure the righties are praying that Diebold keeps their monopolies on power. They would eat their hearts out if the Dems had access to some of these constitutional abuses of power.
Addinton does not even like his picture taken, and now after 5 1/2 years – he’s everywhere (9 pager over @ USN&WR) informed sources say his need for stealth & secrecy makes Cheney look wide open
so what is going on ? is it just the machinery is so broken down we’re all now hearing about him on a regular basis – or is someone looking to throw this rat under the bus ?
btw, I don’t have a shred of objectivity about this person – his hands have been on the controls of more ops to destroy the Constitution, the Republic, and American lives than anyone else in this Crime Family and when he wasn’t doing the dismantling himself, he was protecting those who were
I would trade 3 Rove frogmarches for 1 Addington (hey, I said I wasn’t objective!)
I hope Charlie Savage has a good security wall around him.
What are we going to do when elections are cancelled this fall?
“throw the rat under the bus”
Doesn’t seem likely. It’s becoming rather evident that the Clusterfuck administration can’t put on it’s shoes in the morning without Dick Cheney.
We may someday discover that it was Cheney who directed the crafting of Clusterfuck’s speeches- his appearances- and what color of tie he should wear.
An Angry Old Broad…#13
“Something had to have gone terribly wrong early on.” Yes. He was conceived. Something in real life, kind of like the old flick “Rosemary’s Baby” perhaps. Cheney really, really gives me the creeps.
Thanks, Christy.
I think I counted your use of the word ‘appalling’ thrice. Abso-freakin-’lootly’.
“What Constitution? We don’t need no ‘damned piece of paper’! See? Right here, I got this memo…’
And MSM paints Dems into ‘no investigations’ corner.
Jail the BushCo Gangsters at Fitz Quentin!!!
This may be the only way we have to deal with Darth Chaney.
I wish it were otherwise, but I keep waiting for the congress to wake up and see what is happening. So far, they are acting as if someone had cast a spell over them so they would be oblivious to what is going on under their noses.
1984 It Can’t Happen Here = BushCo 2006.
They create their own reality and live that reality. What will be funny (sick but funny) to see the disillusion the true BushCo wingnuts will experience when WHEN the shit hits the fan. When our economy toples off that knife’s edge and crashes, when all those chickens come home to roost, be it the housing bubble, the debt anvil that will drop out of the sky, bird flu pandemic or WWIII with Iran.
But being right and part of the “I told you so” crowd because when we are living that world found in Mad Max, Terminator, the Mailman or Water Works is small comfort.
So, what do we do?
How do we turn this around?
How can we fight this?
Have you registered to Vote?
Did you make sure your neighbors are registered?
Have you voted in of the elections this spring?
Did you get your neighbors out to vote?
Be one….. Bring One…. or Two … or your whole neighborhood!
Dumfuk fell for the whole enchilada. wow. Poppy must be proud.
Fitz off, Quentin.
Blank Kludge at 22 — this story made me so angry, I’m still shaking. Appalling doesn’t even come close to how pissed I am at this — and the fact that it has been going on, and on, and on without any real Congressional pushback…beyond my ability to explain how pissed I am. SIGH
I read this and can’t help but sense a preparation for an event that might trigger the imposition of
martial law for ‘the national defense’. When ‘national security’ is equated with ‘preventing executive branch embarassment’, ’signing statements’ with gutting legislation, and a ‘unitary executive’ with castrating Congress, can a party seeking a permanent majority, like nations we used to villify, be far from promoting a fascist alliance of a strong executive with corporate interests? Clearly, Ben Franklin’s words have not been repeated enough — thanks to Republican cuts and misdirection on education.
RevDeb 25 – maybe only Buffy can save us.
Sharkbabe,
What the hell is she waiting for?
The Libbys and the Roves may be just the metastases of the real cancer that is festering in this country, and while it would not make me unhappy to see them both locked up for a while, as long as the likes of Cheney and Addington are allowed unfettered power, the cancer that they are will eventually eat this country alive.
I’m really afraid for the integrity of the November elections, as it has to be clear that maintaining GOP control of Congress is the only thing holding back the mother of all investigations, and punishment commensurate with their crimes.
Agree that even as we speak the monster Cheney is preparing the next 9/11. Why would he not?
Anyone else watch “Enemy of the State” last night? Probably more like a documentary now than pure fiction. Gave me chills.
Guess if the president of the United States wants to “delegate” the running of the country to a washed up CEO who nearly bankrupted his former corporation by buying a bunch of asbestos liability- he can do that- eh?
Actually Sharkbabe – I think it will be their own incompetence, arrogance, avarice, and everyman for himself attitude that will save us
it’s why they can’t do crap now. it’s why everyone’s favorite punchline: Hastert is doing some serious pushback and pimp slapping of Darth
call me deluded, but Peter Pace and that Rapture nutball General aside, I don’t think the military establishment is going to do anything to help these petty monsters wrt Martial Law or cancelling elections
Might I suggest a proactive response? Since Christy was kind enough (or was it outraged enough?) to put this article and her great analysis in front of us how about we do our part and EMAIL THE ARTICLE TO 10 OF OUR OWN FRIENDS. With, of course, the suggestion that they email it to 10 of their friends? What ya say?
Christy –
Yep. I love the way Arlen gets play just at the end of the piece:
“Arlen Specter , Republican of Pennsylvania and Senate Judiciary Committee chairman, recently announced hearings into the matter.”
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Second to last sentence. A mere afterthought. Inconsequential. Not even up to ’sound and fury’.
Mainsailset – good idea! Also printing it out and mailing it (snailmail style) with a personal note to our congresscritters might be a good idea!
Who is David Addington?
Addington graduated from Sandia High School in Albuquerque, New Mexico in 1974. He is a graduate of the Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University and holds a J.D. from Duke University School of Law.
Addington was assistant general counsel for the Central Intelligence Agency from 1981 to 1984. From 1984 to 1987 he was counsel for the House committees on intelligence and international relations. Addington was also a special assistant to President Ronald Reagan for one year in 1987, before becoming Reagan’s deputy assistant. He was Republican counsel on the Iran-contra committee in the 1980’s. From 1989 to 1992, Addington served as special assistant to the Secretary of Defense, before becoming the Department of Defense’s general counsel in 1992.
From 1993 to 2001, he worked in private practice, for law firms Baker Donelson Bearman Caldwell & Berkowitz and Holland & Knight, and the American Trucking Association.[3] He headed a political action committee, the Alliance for American Leadership, set up in large part to explore a possible presidential candidacy for Mr. Cheney.
Wikipedia
Looks like he was successful in making Cheney president of the United States.
It’s great to see the words of the Constitution being quoted.
That brings me back to a suggestion I made a few threads back. (Sorry for being redundant.)
It would be awesome to plan a live reading of the Declaration of Indpendence and the Constitution in front of Captial Hill and hand out copies too for 4th of July.
rwcole – he is scary smart and like Fitz, is supposed to have a photgraphic memory.
Cheney/Rumsfield get their immense power from working together, not saying either one of them are as brickheaded as their Chimp – but Addington is smarter than either one of ‘em.
Was it yet another article about him (jeebus, wtf? ) that painted the scenario of him, Yoo, Abu, and some other enabler in the room discussing how best to ignore the Constitution and Addington quite subtly would frame it so as anyone not going along was the pussy, the weakling ? not exactly a room full of dummies – morally challenged, but not stupid, and there was Addington – the Alpha Male
I believe I said it here, several days ago: every citizen in this country needs to have a copy of the Constitution sent to him/her. None of this behavior from Washington would be happening now if people in this country knew what was at stake, constitutionally. It’s ignorance, as much as apathy, as there are a couple of generations out there who never studied civics in school.
Does anyone remember when copies of the Declaration of Independence were sent to everyone in the US on the occasion of the Bi-Centennial in the late 80’s?* It was printed on a small card with print so tiny that you would need a magnifying glass to read it. What the government should have been sending was a copy of the Constituion in print large enough to read, but under a Republican Administration at the time, why bother. So, the stage for the crisis we are witnessing was set under Reagan and Bush I, with utter distain for the public with a showy, and empty flourish as a replacement.
* Note: the Bi-Centennial began in 1976 and ended with the celebration (sic) of the ratification of the Constitution (in 1789) in 1989. It was former Chief Justice Warren Burger who was responsible for deciding how to “celebrate” with a very small budget for what he originally intended to do, limiting him to the “empty” gesture of the small card mentioned above.
I don’t think another 9.11 would serve Cheney though ignoring the possibility might. Anyone, who thinks the bluster about NSA, CIA, DHS and Immigration is accomplishing anything in the way of deterring those reacting desperately to our ambitious and ungracious policies around the globe, has taken the small red pill with a big draught of the red kool-aid. This administration has done everything to ungraciously aggravate the desperation of the disenfranchised around the globe. Seconds after a second jet flew into the second tower, I said to a friend, who had alerted me to turn on the television from Boston, “One does not disenfranchise a people in their own land without it coming back to bite one in the ass.”
It’s the lesson of all Revolutions [including our own] played out time and again in history. The bozos in D.C. apparently decided to ignore this lesson in their misguided aspirations for empire. It is sad so many more have paid the price while all they seem to concerns them is ‘embarassment’.
That wiki puts Addington hired by Casey and/or Meese. I imagine each woulda spit on such quaint conventions as FISA and Constitutional ‘legalities’…
The Boland Amendment rippling thru the years…
http://ciadrugs.homestead.com/…..eview.html
“On December 8, 1982, the U.S. House of Representatives unanimously passed the “Boland Amendment” to the 1983 military appropriations bill stating that none of the appropriated defense funds could be used to “train, arm, or support persons not members of the regular army for the purpose of overthrowing the government of Nicaragua.” This amendment made it illegal for the CIA to continue funding its anti-Sandinista army, which by then was calling itself the FDN (Nicaraguan Democratic Forces), but was better known as the Contras.”
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Passed House UNANIMOUSLY.
My home district is Eddie Boland’s.
I didn’t know that Fitz was a footballer. I had him pegged for a soccer player. GOOOOAAAAALLL!
I’ve been reading about these things for so long now, but i must say I don’t really understand them. Does the addition of these signing statements actually change the law Congress passed or are they just little “notes” from the president about how he reads the law? And have they ever been challenged to The Supreme Court?
So that law firm that Addington worked for- was it HOWARD Baker’s firm? Yep!
Why can’t we get some Congesscritter to submit a bill that makes all signing statments void?
You really do have to give props to Cheney.
Look, you can’t even see his mouth open let alone see his lips move.
Ugly dummy on his lap, though.
Todd- “does it change the law”?
Well the intention was originally that in the event some ambiguity in the law was challenged- the signing statement would explain what the president THOUGHT it meant when he signed it- and that COULD have some weight.
In the case of these criminals, however, it can be used as an explanation of what the law means in it’s ENFORCEMENT- so UNTIL it is reviewed by a court- that’s what the fucker ACTUALLY means- if you see the not so subtle difference.
So basically, someone needs to challenge these things in order to have a specific definition of their intent.
So under the Clusterfuck’s understanding of the “unitary executive”, congress can pass any old laws it wants- but Clusterfuck will say what the law actually MEANS- and how it will be enforced- so in effect he takes over the jobs of both congress and the judiciary. Cool eh?
But who would have the authority to challenge a signing statement? Congress?
Todd- Well Congress could certainly re-write the law to clarify the intent- and the courts could still re-interpret the law if a case comes before them that requires it- but until then- the president’s interpretation holds- he makes himself like the umpire- who when told that a pitch was a “strike” says:
“It ain’t NOTHIN until I call it”.
Here’s another modest proposal . . .
Since the Republican congress seems to like the idea of changing laws after they have been broken by the executive, to make everything OK after all, how about simply offering an amendment to the Constitution (1) eliminating the presidential veto, (2) replacing it with the presidential power to set aside any portion of legislation that the president doesn’t like via a signing statement, and (3) declaring that Congress shall have no power to overturn any such presidential action.
Simple: Propose to legalize what they’re trying to do right now, and then force discussion of it on the floor of the House and Senate.
Sure, it’s a dream, but somehow the Congress has to wake up and smell the coffee.
This is why this whole signing thing has confused me. I didn’t know that the President could just rewrite his interpretaation and it would be the law. This administration HAS, in a sense, become a dictatorship. There HAS to be some body in our government that oversees this. That can challenge it?!?
totally OT (or perhaps not):
How can so many conservatives speak as if they know the mind of God? Check out this quote from the Pope at Auschwitz this weekend:
“In a place like this, words fail; in the end, there can be only a dread silence, a silence which itself is a heartfelt cry to God: Why, Lord, did you remain silent? How could you tolerate all this?”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..oland_pope
That seems to be the ultimate hubris to me — to assume that the ineffable is “effable.” To assume that there was silence and toleration for something horrific. Why does he presume God’s silence? What’s the payoff for him in doing so?
And so yeah, it’s not totally OT in a chilling post about hubris. Sometimes I feel as if we’re the anti-chorus in a Greek tragedy that’s playing out before our eyes.
Bush is not the sharpest knife in the kitchen. But he knows he has the constitutional power to have the law broken – namely Presidential pardons. I think some of the other extensions may be stemming from this basic fact.
The rational for giving the President the power of pardons was that it might help heal civic strife – he can pardon people who acted against him.
How can we ammend the Constitution so that a President cannot use pardons as a “get out of jail free” card for his minions acting for him?
And I’m talking here about this signing statement thing, not individual laws and such.
omg lookit that dark hair!!!!
David Addington Begins Another Workday
The president is in a unique position. Congress can pass all the laws it wants- but only the president retains the power to enforce em- so if the president doesn’t LIKE the laws- he can just refuse to enforce em. Congress can appropriate money for pet projects- but the president can refuse to spend it. Congress has no independent ability to make ANYTHING happen- they just write laws- and the president can pretend- if he wants- that the laws mean what he wants em to mean.
If congress wants to defend itself- then it has a couple of aces up it’s sleeve- the power of the purse- and impeachment. Congress can refuse to fund the govt. or that portion that currently offends it- or they can impeach the president and kick him out of office. The goopers did BOTH of these things under Clinton.
The CURRENT congress doesn’t have the balls to defend itself- so it’s power is as nothing.
The courts have a similar limitation. They can interpret laws brought to them and declare some unconstitutional- but they can’t MAKE the executive follow their rulings.
In point of fact- we always hang a millimeter away from autocracy. It’s only the good faith of the president that keeps it from happening- and that good faith is sorely deficient in today’s world.
Wow. I had written this last fall:
I think the most telling paragraph of Savage’s article is this:
That Cheney as
Vice-EmperorVice President and Addington as his counsel have managed to do so much to destroy the Constitution in the years since Iran-Contra confirms what I believed then: it was a horrible mistake not to have impeached President Reagan, and to try every one of the people involved with Iran-Contra for treason.Antisocial personality disorder-From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Diagnostic criteria (DSM-IV-TR)
The DSM-IV-TR is a widely used manual for diagnosing mental disorders, defines anti-social personality disorder as a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:
1.failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
2.deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
3.impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
4.irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
5.reckless disregard for safety of self or others
6.consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations
7.lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another
cbl @ 11:36 am (#17) – It’s possible that when all is said and done, Addington will be the worst of the lot. He’s certainly the brains behind the operation to destroy the Constitution.
A few years ago- Goopers were fond of repeating Jefferson’s words “The tree of liberty must, from time to time, be refreshed with the blood of tyrants” (or something rather close to that)
I don’t hear them repeating this much recently. Is there a reason for that?
Should we wake up in November with a dem controlled congress, we may finally find out just how much power this executive actually has- it could be REALLY ugly.
Thank you so much rwcole.
I feel I have a better understanding now. You should write an op/ed that gets dispersed far and wide. It’s a daunting subject!
Great post Christy with this posting and the one below “The Home of The Brave” you articulated the spirit of courageous decency used to should typify America and will again.
Speaking as a friendly foreigner.
THANK YOU.
Mark
And damn it the trolls who typify everything that you are struggling against are out in force on my blogs tonight so instead of spending a pleasant evening after Mass here I have to wade through their filth.
Let us not forget that in the past Bush has made many “strong unitary” remarks, on the record, that show his disdain for the constitution… seperation of powers…etc..
Heres just a few…
“You don’t get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier.” Bush…Describing what it’s like to be governor of Texas.
(Governing Magazine 7/98)
“If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator,” Bush said.
– CNN.com, December 18, 2000
“A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there’s no question about it, ” [Bush] said.
– Business Week, July 30, 2001
Cujo359
kinda hard to pick a ‘worst’ in this bunch but yeah -
Robespierre, Richelieu, Torqemada, Goebbels/Goering enablers/architects all – none of the horrors perpetrated get done without these characters
oh, and did I mention to everyone how much I revile this bastard ?!?!?
Education and technology allowed an increasing sense of wealth and well being for the populations of Europe and North America. However, in the last 50 years depletion of resources and overpopulation are ending these expansionists dreams. Humiliated young males are joining gangs or liberation movements; William Linds 4th generational warfare. States are becoming increasing difficult to rule and incapable of providing for their citizens. The tired resignation of Tony Blair visiting this week to the White House.
This conflict has led to Dick Cheney and Imperial Presidency. Government is inherently evil. They have no intention of governing well. Grab power and wealth now while able. The Enron mentality grown large, conquering the American State. Not giving a damn for the welfare of its citizens, only power.
Todd –
The key is Standing — anyone who can prove they have Standing to a Court, can bring a suit.
In this case, Congress has Standing — the laws they pass are being neutered by Executive fiat; for anyone else, you would probably have to material harm to yourself in order to have Standing (i.e., legal justification to bring a case to the court).
If you are affected by pollution caused by a Signing Statement, you might have Standing; but you have to prove it. It would be much easier for Congress to bring a suit — but with BushCo packing the courts with Right Wing shills, how would that play out?
Four hours today, catching up on posts and comments since yesterday! Starting with Jane’s post on the politics/mystery of the FBI raiding Congressional offices, plus Pach and on through Christy’s post on the meaning of Memorial Day, to this post on the dangers to our Constitution — and all of the extraordinary comments in between, plus the links to editorials, to Glen, to Kos, to . . . — wow!! — this blog may be creating/witnessing one of the most important political and social conversations anywhere in the county.
Has there every been anything like it in our history, with the possible exception of the intense interest in the political pamphlets from the Revolutionary period and the Federalist Papers? It reads like the rebirth of a nation.
Still trying to sort it all out
Christy – Great post and great Charlie Sanage piece!
scory @ 64 – spot on re Iran Contra cover-up, and Cheney/Addington are abviously convinced they can do it again. $64,000 question is can we stop ‘em this time? Wish I thought we could but given the Dems track record then (Hello Senator Kerry – did you learn anything…?!), don’t have a whole lotta hope…..
And “anywhere in the country” too.
Technically, wouldn’t the AG himself have Standing to raise an issue in some Court, should he decide to exercise that option? I know, not this President’s personal lawyer…just as a matter of law/precedent?
But could someone, or some entity, bring a case against signing statements in general? The practice of? The fact that they exist?
On June 20th, Frontline will air a program on Cheney called the Dark Side
http://pressroom.pbs.org/progr…..index_html
“In the initial stages of the war on terror, Tenet’s CIA was rising to prominence as the lead agency in the Afghanistan war. But when Tenet insisted in his personal meetings with the president that there was no connection between Al Qaeda and Iraq, Cheney and Rumsfeld initiated a secret program to re-examine the evidence and marginalize the agency and Tenet.
Through interviews with DoD staffers who sifted through mountains of raw intelligence, FRONTLINE tells the story of how questionable intelligence was ’stovepiped’ to the vice president and presented to the public.”
I still want to know why all the sudden pushback from Hastert – more important, I want to know why Cheney’s been asceeding (sp?) to Hastert’s demands –
don’t think it’s Hastert suddently feeling the impications of what WH has been doing wrt Exec Power – ego & vanity are involved, but he’s got something – Dick Cheney, and certainly not David Addington do not back down to anyone
Wasn’t Cheney one of the politicians backed by the Somoza family as profiled by Leslie Cockburn produced stories for 60 Minutes in the late 70’s?
Isn’t that part of how Negroponte got into this whole mix of administration skulduggery and subterfuge?
It is finally starting to occur to me that there may be no frogmarch or Karl Rove. Fitz may have decided to just tighten the screws on Libby and let Rover walk. Hope that’s not the case- but this has been goin on for a hell of a long time.
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But could someone, or some entity, bring a case against signing statements in general? The practice of? The fact that they exist?
Maybe — if you can make the case that Signing Statements deprive you of your Constitutional Right to have your elected Representatives — the Congress — make statutory law, without having it circumvented by the Executive.
But to do so, you will have to argue the case for your legal Standing at every step, with the possibility of having your suit dismissed because a court does not recognize your Standing.
Remember — Brown vs Board of Education was years in the making, while Thurgood Marshall and the NAACP Legal Team found plaintiffs (Brown) with compelling cases and clear Standing.
It might be an idea to somehow thank the reporter. I see no email addy for Savage on the story…but I’m certain there is some way to get thru…
McCain, with his supposed “courageous stance” against torture, allowed a Bush signing statement be executed on the bill he pushed for enactment against AG wishes, without so much as a pushback from this “honorable” senator afterwards. It is this kind of goosesteping rubberstamp congress that is more appalling to behold, than Cheney’s shallow antics. I don’t blame the power seekers in this administratiion for undermining the strengths of our constitutional government, rather I blame each senator who lied when placing their hands on the bible “swearing” to uphold the constitution. Their cowardly behaviour gives credance to Bush’s statement that the constitution “is just a god damned piece of paper”.
Trying again. Will post in two parts.
Wanted to get this posted before I got EPU’d. I saw This Week this morning. What a true patriot Murtha is compared to that weasel Warner. When he started to dance around the War Crimes committed by some of our troops I had too get up and leave the room. Warner made me want to puke. Sorry for being so discriptive. He mad me so mad I sent him an email to his web page contact email.
Here is what I wrote. As you can see I was extremely pissed off.
Sunday May 28, 2006
Dear Senator Warner,
When I saw you on This Week this morning and you started talking about the Marines who committed War Crimes {Murdering innocent civilians} you attempted to play the whole incident down. Just like Abu Garib those who committed crimes of Torture there were not held to the high standard that is required in our Military. Their sentences were in my humble opinion not worthy of the sentences they should have clearly received for their War Crimes. They clearly committed War Crimes and should have been sent to the Hague for their trials or imprisoned for the rest of their lives.
Now once again the Republicans who are responcible at the TOP will not be held accountable for what has transpired in Iraq. Those Marines who committed the Murder of Woman and Children should receive the Death Penalty for their Crimes and those at the Top of the Military Chain who condoned and covered up those Crimes should at the least be Dishonourably Discharged.
As in Abu Garib those at the Top of Civilian Command {Like Rumsfield} should have been fired for Instigating and condoning of Torture in Iraq {Which was also War Crimes}. But like so many of our Countries Laws, the Constitution has been stepped on and trampled on by the current Administration. We are now no longer the United States of America, but America the Fourth Reich being led by a Dictator who has Trampled OUR CONSTITUTION into the ground.
As I watch the new Fascist Government continue to spread fear against the citizens of America and the Republican Leadership in both the House and Senate continue to ignore their Constitutional duties to protect its citizens I fear for what will happen to our country.
It is very clear that the Republican Party has placed Party over Country by not holding this insane madman George Walker Bush to the High Standard that is required of the Office of the President, nor Dick Cheney for the Office of the Vice President. Both these men have committed High Crimes and Misdeamors and should be impeached and removed from Office before the rest of the World unites against American and forcibly remove them, arrest them and all those who are and were complicite in their War Crimes and send them to the Hague for Trial.
Americans will not stand for a Dictatorship by either political party and will fight to regain the freedoms that the Republican CongressSenate have taken from us. Either your a true American or your a Traitor like GWB and the rest of his Gestapho. Like Bush said your either with us or agin us. We the American People want OUR COUNTRY back.
Right now there are those who are True Americans fighting to remove a Dino from the Senate who has supported GWB over the will of true Democrats and the American People. The day of lifelong incumbancy for the House and Senate is {As Rumsfield once said} in its last throes. I for one look forward to the many Republicans being investigated for corruption to finally be removed from Office and tried and convicted for their crimes. Like Jefferson I hope he’s convicted and given a long sentence for his betrayal of his Office and the American People as you all have betrayed your OATH before God and the American People to Protect and Defend the Constitution of the United States from all Enemies, both Foriegn and Domestic.
As I started out above, your attempt too downplay the War Crimes of some of our military serving in Iraq made me want to puke. You sir are not only a disgrace to the Uniform you once wore, but also a disgrace to the Office you currently hold. You sir should immediatly resign your Office so a true Loyal American can serve OUR COUNTRY instead of the Republican Party.
I may not truly know what the Democrat Party stands for, but I know what the Republican Party certainly stands for. It is the Party of Death, Corruption, Fascism and Treason as has been shown by its Leadership and the Office of the Vice President and President. The outting of a NOC agent during a Time of War {Afganistan} was an act of Treason carried out at the highest levels of the American Government, and the Republican Party who controls all Branches of Government turned its back on America and condoned the Treasonous Acts of its leaders.
George A –
I’ve had that problem — it’s something in the spam filters. Try hitting “submit comment” instead of “preview” — that worked for me once.
Part Two
I pray to God that He shows mercy to our country before its destroyed in a Nuclear War where this President and the Republican Party are leading us. I’m also sure that when you and the rest ot those who are leading us down the path to destruction stand before my Lord that He will surly have a spot reserved for you all in Hell. I also pray that this happens sooner rather than later.
Sincerely yours,
George A.
PS: How many military funerals have you attended for the brave men and women who have been killed in Iraq. How many military service men and women who have been maimed and crippled for life have you visited in the hospital or at their homes?
I know Murtha goes regularly to Walter Reed, how about you? I doubt that you’ve ever attended a funeral of visited any of our service members in the hospital. How can you sleep at night knowing that GWB is destroying not only our country, but are military as well?
I don’t know if his staff will give this to him on tuesday or not. But they will see it and maybe talk of it will spread aroung the senate and make them think what they are doing to our country. At least one can hope it will wake them up.
Thanks ck, got it in two parts.
How do people maintain the illusion that W is in charge of ANYTHING? This requires an ongoing suspension of disbelief. Thanks to having their brains addled by a chronic overdose of television, people are not troubled by the obvious dissonance. There are moments but then they relapse into the consensus (and received) version of how-things-are.
rwcole says:
May 28th, 2006 at 12:33 pm
Let us return to a question I asked many threads ago: who is drafting the signing statements? Having read Charlie Savage’s Boston Globe story, I’m wondering whether it is David Addington who is drafting them.
I have long suspected that Cheney has had his titty in the wringer for decades about what he sees as the direction of america. He sees a day coming when goopers will not be able to get elected on a “conservative” agenda. He sees a day coming when “capital” will not be given the highest throne in the pantheon of Gods. He sees the day coming when middle income americans- with their wallets flattened by falling wages associated with globalism will rebel and demand a bigger piece of the pie. He sees the day when americans will demand and recieve universal health care- and where they will demand that the wealthy pay for it.
For these and a thousand other reasons- it has been the goal of the Cheney administration to de-democratize this country- to push the envelope in rewards to the wealthy- to undermine the role of congress- and to ensure the long term success of the corporate infrastructure by building strong bridges between the corporate world and the govt.
None of this can be done in the light of day- none of it can be open to inspection. It must all be a stealth project- and for that- we have the stealth president- standing behind a puppet- pulling the strings- mouthing the words- and stripping the gears of constitutional democracy.
He’s not through- not by a long shot- there’s lots more of this to go- and we’ll see the ugliest side of all after the midterms- when the fucker has less to lose.
rwcole says “Hope that’s not the case…”
May 28th, 2006 at 1:41 pm
It isn’t. It will take time to play out.
Steve- that’s how it looks- (or some young lawyers under him).
Sorry about the double post. I have no idea how it happened.
And the strongest argument the Bush supporter/apologists put forth is that the president, as commander-in-chief, needs wartime powers in order to protect us and our troops. Since congress long ago has abrogated its exclusive power under the constitution to declare war – and few in this country seem to mind very much – it is oh-so-easy for a president to become a wartime president by deploying troops in some part of the world on any bogus excuse. What a convenient, self-fulfilling, power grabbing loop!
Also sorry for the double post. Same as RWCole
cbl says “I still want to know why all the sudden pushback from Hastert – more important, I want to know why Cheney’s been
asceedingacceding to Hastert’s demands -”May 28th, 2006 at 1:39 pm
Is there are a connection between the subject of Charlie Savage’s stories about presidential signing statements and the subject of Jane’s I Need a Scorecard thread yesterday?
Hitler needed wartime powers also, or should I say unlimited powers. The Germans called it the Enabling Act. Bush calls it the Partriot Act.
You know, in the unlikely event of a media maelstrom blowing the cover off Darth Cheney and fist puppet Bush the Lesser before the midterms, a cooperative Speaker of the House would be the one to dole out pardons. Not likely from Pelosi.
I’m curious as to the lack of response to this by Congrssional Republicans and Democrats, but especially the Dems. Is it because deep in their hearts a quarter to half of the Senate believe that some day, somehow, they might become President? Does personal ambition trump looking out for the interests of one’s branch of government, and one’s country?
I’m not holding my breath in waiting for my junior Senator to state principled opposition to this. She may be taking notes and looking forward to doing it even better.
Check back later. Need to get off line. Severe Thunder storms don’t want to damage pc.
rwcole said
It’s long been my contention that the evil tone of this Badministration is the ultimate responsibility of the suit at the top. But it’s also always been clear that that fellow has little ability actually to create bureaucratic, or any other non-organic, results on the ground, hence the opening that Cheney has driven through.
So from this prolog, I note an old hypothesis of mine about the CIA-agent exposure (still don’t really like using her name…), that the thing that made the Niger/uranium story different from aluminum tubes or bioweapons labs, and thus the reason OVP led the WHIG and all the other little cabals off the cliff in this matter, as they appear to have done, is that this was the first public hint that really got into wide circulation that Cheney could order that things be done.
Not that I think Joseph Wilson’s defiance in putting a name and face to the rumblings of dissent that we were hearing was unimportant, because also to that point hardly anyone who had been on the inside was standing up in public and openly disputing the honesty of the Iraq war decision. Also, if OVP wanted to continue the misdirection, it would certainly have been necessary to engage other, er, organs of the badministration; this would have been more easily done by casting the problem as punishing an insubordinate, insufficiently-gop-fearing leaker, than by whining that Joe has exposed Dick. (How murky the whole thing is psychologically!)
But until Wilson’s article, and except for a little 9/11 hiccup about who can order a commercial plane to be shot down, the public mask of the Badministration was that Bush was large and in charge, and Cheney’s public profile was as just another member of the Prinicpal’s committee. I wonder whether the inability to restore that mask since 2003 has helped the very good articles about Cheney’s agenda, Addington’s role, etc., get more currency?
Cole;
As good a diagnosis of Cheney’s motives as I’ve seen, but perhaps a bit generous for my taste. For my money, Cheney is without a doubt the most transparently evil sonofabitch to ever feed from the American public trough, his fondness for canned hunts just one in a litany of abominations for which he seems to have a bottomless appetite. Cheney could be a non-fiction Fellow in N.I.C.E.–the National Institute of Coordinated Experiments–described by C. S. Lewis:
“For here, here surely at last (so his desire whispered to him) was the true inner circle of all, the circle whose centre was outside the human race–the ultimate secret, the supreme power, the last initiation. The fact that it was almost completely horrible did not in the least dimish its attraction. Nothing that lacked the tang of horror would have been quite strong enough to satisfy the delirious excitement which now set his temples hammering.”
–”That Hideous Strength,” Macmillan, pp. 259-260.
Cheney was wrapped in swaddling cloth and was rescued from a basket floating down the River Styx.
-GSD
cbl 11:36 et al
I wondered in an earlier thread about the same thing – why Addington’s name coming up and why now? I can’t help but thinkt it is related to the Libby/Rove mess and that Addington is working on making things as tight and tough for Spec COunsel as possible, and some DOJ or ex-DOJ are trying to do some things that Fitzgerald can’t until he finishes Vol. III of Houdini’s Things I Can Do With My Hands Tied
That is the only thing that makes much sense, unless there is some other battle involving Cheney that someone is ready go to bat over. There hasn’t been any overwhelming display of loyalty to the Constitution in DOJ, but that’s not to say there aren’t some strong personal loyalty ties here and there.
I agree with you about Addington out alpha-ing them all, but not necessarily about being scarey smart, in the legal sense at least. Scarey smart in the manipulation of people sense yeah, and a photgraphic memory – I can believe that too. But Yoo’s memo was worse than pathetic and there’s no doubt that was done hand in glove with Addington.
There is a reason why no really wants to take the Admins arguments and legal workproduct to the Supreme Court and it is not bc it is all scarey smart. It’s bc they have grave grave grave problems that do not begin to be addressed and that even people like Scalia will call them on. Have called them on – see Hamdi. After Hamdi they are scared to death to take any of their mess back up, at least until they have more appointments.
Where Addington was smartest was in getting the smart boys in the dept – the Comeys and the Fitzgeralds et seq – to go for the bait and dog it on their own. By the time you had those guys realizing that the hard sell they had done, drawing on how committed they had been to the threats from terrorists, had been a sell, not to make the nation stronger, but weaker and not to bolster security, but to bolster a vindictive and incompetent administration, they had already put military corners on the bed. Kinda literally.
He drew on how tempting it is when you are “the guys who know more than anyone else in the room” to be the ones making the deals behind the door and “doing what’s best for everyone” instead of doing what is right and Consitutional. He didn’t lead them down the path, he pointed to it and let them think they were doing the leading. Addington’s name is not on OLC opinions. OTOH, Goldsmith isn’t on the 9th Cir and Bybee is. Addington didn’t do the road show for Patriot Act I, he didn’t do the presser for Padilla, or get the lashing from Luttig; he didn’t show up to argue Mousaoui, he didn’t stand in front of anyone to claim that we had no worries about the Patriot Act (and implicitly the Govt response to the War on Terror) bc there would be warrants, court supervision, and besides there was always gonna be that brave FBI agent who would show up and be a whistleblower if things went awry.
He let others use up their personal credibilty and integrity arguing his creed for him. The very people who should have been standing up against what he was doing, he sucked into carrying the banner for him. And by the time they had, like happens with so many bad legal decisions and bad moral decisions, they started to find themselves locked in. With options to keep their mouth shut and play along, or keep their mouth shut and go for a corporate or teaching gig.
When they qued up to fight the Constitution, they might not have really thought through why the first amendment is first. Lose your right to speak out and the others make no difference. As soon as they adopted the “legality” of illegal actions, they lost their right to speak in the future. Now, there really is no good way for anyone to come forward.
Call things what they were, at the time, “illegal” and you have the legal and moral authority to stand up. Put yourself in a conflict of interest situation with representing fundamental Constitutional precepts, and you have really lost your voice. Addington played them – they thought they were playing the “We are the good guys, we will protect this country and if that means a little less Constituion, well, we’re the good guys – we’ll do the right thing” when all along they were playing Addington’s “they should have been more careful what they wished for” game.
It’s not just about being the smartest or scarey smart even. It’s about having the integrity to do the right thing even when it doesn’t get you glory or applause from the room. It’s about being this stuff:
http://tinyurl.com/m73k2
Mora’s comments on accepting his Profiles in Courage award. I’d take a Rove a Libby and even a Bush for an Addington too. But mostly, I’d have given a lot, a very large lot, if there had been a Mora instead of a Bybee, an Aschcroft, a Gonzales, or any of the others who played spin the bottle with Addington’s posterior.
ck (#74):
” well, at least I tried!”
R. P. McMurphy
One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest
A film well worth re-watching in this day and time……
All that said, I do still wonder if it is Rumsfeld or Cheney ultimately calling the shots?
From Mora’s acceptance speech: “Where cruelty exists, law does not.”
I think there is a reverse truth too, that where the law does not exist, cruelty will exist. I think that is one of the things that every lawyer who goes home happily arguing that we don’t have to follow Geneva Conventions, worry about the War Crimes act, get distracted by the Uniform Code of Miliary Justice, read all the way to the end of the Fourth Amendment, or bother with the 1st, 5th or 6th at all, need to tuck under their pillow each time they hear about another mistake, another abuse, another death of the wrong man, another death of a child, another terrorist created by our actions —- they help build that pyramid. Take away the law and you open the door for injustice.
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Re: the signing statements. rwc – good points, but for much of what is going on a) Congress cannot effectively exercise the power of the purse and b) the President has even overriden that approach by signing statments.
Re b) for example, there have been bills that required as a statutory element of funding, that Congressional committees or subcommittees be briefed on how the monies were spent and Bush put on signing statements saying — love the money, not gonna do the briefing unless it sounds like good idea to me at the time and we talk about things I like, you know, big perch and stuff like that.
Well, he may not have mentioned perch specifically, but he has put on signing statements that disegarded express ties of funding to feedback. And re: a) with non-allocated black ops budgets and with many things that do legitimately need secrecy, plus many budgets that might put us at risk if funds dried up, there is a big issue presented and one that no one in Congress is willing to take on.
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Re: signing statements generally, they can, as Christy alluded, serve a legitimate purpose. Bills do not always spell out everything that needs to be spelled out and sometimes the delay in waiting for administrative regs to go into place leaves too much gap period, so a signing statement (something I was not very familiar with AT ALL) can give guidance.
To challenge them, I think that first off the answer to this But could someone, or some entity, bring a case against signing statements in general? The practice of? The fact that they exist? is no.
You need an actual “case in controversy” to take something forward. Not just where something exists, but where you can then demonstrate a harm or wrong related to the existence of that thing. OTOH, if someone would bring a case based on an actual situation (for example – if Congress brought a case based on the failure to do briefings where they had required same as part of funding) they could get that actual signing statement brought into review.
In general, I think that you will have courts reluctant to say a President can’t “have” a signing statement, and reluctant to dictate what, exactly, kinds of things can go into a signing statement (although they might be willing to go so far as to make general assertions that a signing statement cannot abrogate the law or the Congressional intent behind that law possibly), but the Courts (real courts with real judges) would be willing to address an actual situation or application of a signing statement to a fact pattern before it. That alone could cause the President to have to deal with things he never wants to and really seriously undermine the Presidency and the reliance his agencies can place upon his direction pursuant to his signing statements.
My guess is that the backflips they went through to keep Padilla from ending up in front of the Sup. Ct would look tame compared to what they would do (are doing, actually, with the State Secrets approach initiated in Arar and now everywhere) to keep signing statement scenarios away from the top court. Really, Addington and Comey and Ashcroft and Gonzales and Yoo — none of it has been tanamount to being a legal genius. It’s all been about keeping the other two branches from doing anything about it.
Easy to win when the other side forfeits bc their team doesn’t show up.
Mary – you always amaze me and I love reading your analysis and your passion for real law and the constitution. thank you.
a particularly good issue of Info Clearing house today including solid reporting on Haditha:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/
“with Dick Cheney and his obsession with “restoring” executive power to what he sees as Nixonian levels as its guiding force.”
…and Cheney picked the perfect stooge to occupy the oval office in order to get his constitution destroying deeds done. Its easy enough to picture cheney pulling the idot fratboy king’s strings, getting him all puffed-up with self-impotance…letting his true nasty self shine through.
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email this post to anyone who might care, and even some who might not.
For an example of a signing statement that says, in effect, if not explicitly, that the administration interprets the law in any way it wants to, look at this example of a signing statement having to do with katrina, taken right off the White House web site… yikes.
http://memory.loc.gov/cocoon/i…..fault.html
Hope this works; there was something funny about when I copied the URL….just sayin’
-sofistic
Sorry about that signing statement URL error. Think I got it this time.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news…..230-8.html
Am I getting paranoid, or what?
-sofistic
Just to do it:
http://www.democrats.reform.ho…..asp?ID=673
Cheney Energy Task Force
Counsel to Vice President Refuses to Turn Over Task Force Records
Friday, May 04, 2001 — David Addington, counsel to Vice President Cheney, responded with a letter to Reps. Tauzin and Burton in which he refused to identify whom the task force had met with or who served on the task force staff. Mr. Addington also declined to turn over records produced or received by the task force in connection with its meetings with outside groups.
Letter from Counsel to Vice President Cheney to Reps. Tauzin and Burton
(link is PDF)
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In Other Secrecy News – dated May 26, 2006
http://www.fas.org/blog/secrec….._repo.html
“Vice President Refuses to Report Classification Activity
For the third year in a row the Office of Vice President Dick Cheney has refused to disclose data on its classification and declassification activity, in an apparent violation of an executive order issued by President Bush.
“The Office of the Vice President (OVP), the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB), and the Homeland Security Council (HSC) failed to report their data to ISOO this year,” the Information Security Oversight Office (ISOO) noted in its new 2005 Annual Report to the President (pdf) (at page 9, footnote 1).
The Office of the Vice President has declined to report such data since 2002. Yet it is clear that disclosure is not optional.”…
http://tinyurl.com/a6erq
^^^ HELP IMPEACH TODAY
I know many of you have helped, and I want to thank and say the effort is appreciated. I am dropping a reminder in today, where I hope not too many people feel “spammed” (this is not spam)… Because a lot of people will be visiting with families and friends tomorrow.
Please… Talk to them about impeachment.
Keep the pressure on Congress… Talking about impeachment wakes people up… They question, it’s a strong motivator to get people thinking. It also lets Congress know how intense the dissapproval is for this President… They seem to be a little slow on the uptake. So please:
1) Sign petitions if you have not done so
2) Send a letter to Congress (both Senators & House rep)
3) Send a copy to the media
4) Enlist friends and family to help, ask them to chip in time
5) Spread the link around, email it (with a request to forward) post it on a blog, or in the comments of a news story.
Help out!!!
Thanks :)
Nothing more to say; time to do.
We’ve all been saying for six years that Cheney is the real President. Why the to-ing and fro-ing when that fact is corroborated?
I think your elaborate Constitutional construction is beside the point. No matter how Bush phrased the original memo delegating the task of drafting signing statements to Cheney, the bottom line is that they don’t mean nothing until Bush writes his “X” at the bottom. Cheney could write them with no authorization at all. Harriet Miers could get out her crayons and write them. I could write them, unsolicited, and e-mail them to the White House. All that matters is that Bush signs them, because all the power of the executive is concentrated in Bush. He can delegate authority, but not responsibility.
This is why Russ Feingold is right to vote to affirm just about anyone shy of Mussolini for Bush’s cabinet. Bush has to take the rap for whatever his Cabinet members do in his name; what difference does it make who it is? If the guy ever strays beyond a limit Bush will tolerate, he’ll be asked to resign. The only real difference is symbolic: we can all be distracted into despising James Watt instead of Ronnie Reagan, or Rumsfeld/Rice/Gonzales etc. instead of Bush.
The Vice-President is an elected official who cannot be fired, but can be, and usually is, ignored. But every task ever delegated to a Vice President, from attending a state funeral to running a Task Force, is just as constitutional as Cheney’s draft signing statements. Ordinarily, we applaud presidents’ efforts to put the vice president to work. I don’t see applauding Cheney in this regard, but I don’t see any reason to get worked up about it.
Do somebody think that the chimp reads anything that he signs…no never…follows that the next chief executive officer of the nation will have to do double duty…checking every thing done since Jan/2001.
I see an urgent need for rapid evolution netrootz triage here. Something like a minimal set of demands covering War and peace.
1) WAR – Tactical retreat to the Murtha line and strategic review.
2) PEACE – Saving the republic with a summit on democratic process, agrarian Gerrymandering, machines and process, Corporate media, corruption of access and etc.
Sadly issues like Immigration and universal health care will have to go to the backburner while we all deal with the military-entertainment complex that includes the GOP, Corporations including the MSM and the Vichy Dems.
The crime waves of this combine include Watergate, Iran Contra and now Yellowgate. Appeasement of them must stop and then, like the robber barons of the gilded age, their sources of wealth must be broken up. BY ANY MEMES NECESSARY.
Ambit claims might include an end to the failed prohibitions on some drugs and sex work. The government must have no business in the bedrooms, living rooms and kitchens of the people. I’d like to hear from others on some minimal conditions for calling yrself a rooter.
Dog’s?
If Bush has lost Kmiec he’s really lost the knee-jerk right; I remember him as a constant supporter of whatever Starrr’s latest excess was. This is really huge.
Yes — but who’s behind Cheney?
In an article published in The Nation, February 19, 2001,”The Emperor’s Old Clothes,” Bruce Cumings explains:
“If Cheney is the foreign affairs kingmaker, he is still Richard the Lesser compared with George the Invisible: Reagan Secretary of State George Shultz, the most important force in Republican national security affairs. Shultz–who vastly aided the rise of Condi Rice–got his first big break under Nixon, as Labor Secretary, while Cheney and Rumsfeld worked in the Office of Economic Opportunity; since then it’s been a game of musical chairs, with Shultz pulling the strings and James Baker, Powell and Cheney swapping national security posts under Reagan and George I.” Further on the article details how Shultz created Condi…
And as Arianna Huffington April 23, 2003 suggests, in “Crony Capitalism Goes To War”
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0423-07.htm
the best way to understand who got the fantastically valuable Iraq contracts would be to lay out “a flow chart [showing] the connections that guaranteed that the big winners in the post-Saddam sweepstakes would be those two ultimate Washington insiders, Halliburton and Bechtel Group.”
Cheney of course is the “former” CEO of Halliburton, and George Shultz is the “former” Bechtel president, … “and currently both a Bechtel board member and chairman of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq.”
Starting to get the picture? This whole administration was about greed before it even started…
Or how about this? “Banking on Empire” (Mitch Jeserich, CorpWatch
February 4th, 2004):
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=9848
“Iraqi ministries will now be able to borrow billions of dollars to buy much-needed equipment from overseas suppliers, but only by mortgaging the national oil revenues through a bank managed by New York-based multinational JP Morgan Chase.”
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“JP Morgan Chase is no stranger to the architects of the occupation, having contributed $158,000 to the Bush-Cheney ticket. The bank will fit right into occupied Iraq, given that it already has close relationships with companies that have received billions of dollars contracts there. On JP Morgan Chase’s Board of Directors sits Riley P. Bechtel, the Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of the Bechtel Group, which has received over $2 billion.”
And guess who’s chairman of the JP Morgan Chase International Council? Would you believe George Shultz?
http://rightweb.irc-online.org…..shultz.php
We really should be focusing more attention on the tremendous role Shultz played in bringing about the American invasion of Iraq. Evil as he is, Cheney is just an apparatchik.
rwcole:
Has Fitz ever failed to prosecute “Official A”?
http://www.ynetnews.com/articl…..47,00.html
http://www.larouchepac.com/pdf…..strike.pdf
Ok, who you gonna believe this time around?
There is a fundamental inconsistency between the checks and balances of the three branches, and the “unitary executive” implied by the Commander in Chief aspect of the President’s office. As long as the Supreme Court remains politically independent it can perhaps successfully assert that Branch Balance trumps even the Commander in Chief role. Perhaps we’ll find out, before long, whether the Supreme Court is politically independent, or whether it has been packed.
Somebody quick, give Dead-eye and boy-King George a blow job. I know it’s distasteful and a lot to ask, but do it for your country. Then there will finally be a reason for impeachment
I wish that you would stop referring to the “Rubber Stamp Republican Congress. It sounds better if you drop the word “republican”. Sounds more honest.
marjie at 132 — Since the Republicans control both houses of Congress at the moment, and control what goes to the floor for a vote, what goes up for a committee vote and pretty much every other aspect — I’ll continue to call it Rubber Stamp Republican Congress until they no longer have full control. We call the Democrats on their lack of fortitude plenty here — but the fact of the matter is that Republicans control both the executive and legislative branches and the moment and the first step to making things better, IMHO, is kicking their butts out of congressional control.
Senator Lieberman:
Since 2001, the National Security Agency has collected records of billions of phone calls within the USA. First Bush denied the spying was taking place. When exposed he said it was limited in scope. Then-Gen. Michael Hayden, now Director of the CIA, lied as recently as January that the surveillance was “highly targeted” and of “international communications.”
What happened to the Fourth Amendment requiring a warrant for searches? What happened to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act? Now the FBI is searching through the phone records of ABC news reporters –it feels like totalitarianism when the only thing illegal for the govt to do anymore is to leak to reporters about illegal govt activity. And you do nothing to stop it. The Constitution is an illusion, a Civics class trick played on the sheep told there is a multi-party democracy here. Your indistinguishability from the Administration proves how false all that is!
Indeed, what happened to the separation of powers in the US govt? For even before the Administration dispensed with the Judicial branch and initiated a massive unwarranted domestic spying project, you, Sen. Lieberman, led the Legislative branch into abrogating its Constitutional authority and responsibility to declare war, handing this decision-making power to the President. We now have a single-branch govt, the EXECUTIVE, & stumps called Judiciary and Legislature.
You have pushed so hard to make this war that has been sold to us on lies and hypocrisy. Rumsfeld was in Iraq shaking Saddam Hussein’s hand, representing the Reagan Administration when poison gas was being used by the Iraq govt. US intelligence knew this in the summer of 1983, before Rumsfeld’s handshake with Hussein in Dec 1983. Chemical weapons were ok with the US govt when Hussein was considered an ally. Its a war of hypocrisy, and the rest of the world sees it even if your voters don’t.
Bush lied to all of us to get us into this Iraq war. This is most definitely a “high crime and misdemeanor” and he should have been impeached as soon as it was revealed how “the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy,” as the Downing Street memo put it. Meanwhile, the Administration has launched an unwarranted mass domestic spying program, and lied repeatedly about it, and spied on journalists reporting it. But instead of working to impeach him, you have run away even from Sen. Feingold’s censure resolution. You are part of this coup.
Senator Lieberman, you are Bush’s man, can’t you do something about this?
Sincerely,
Will Wilkin
How about Republican Bobblehead led Congress then? Yes, President Bush whatever you say. yes…yes…yes
I agree, Marjie, the Dems are equally complicit in the imperial disintegration of this republic. Of course Blacks and Natives and potsmokers have always known it is a totalitarian society in its own ways. The Republicrats have made this a one-party state. Democracy is a ruse, but most people require so little freedom in practice and actually don’t give a hoot for the freedoms of others, especially those freedoms they themselves have no impulse to exercise. The drug war is our own domestic Abu Ghraib, but how many “progressives” are actually working to replace drug prohibition with legal regulation?
There are no meaningful choices in the US electoral system. The factions are a few inches apart above the surface, but really they are a single iceburg of huge common imperial interests, joined just below the surface.
Vote Schmote, the Democrats can go to hell where they belong.
Welcome to the Brave New World where all wars are permanent, open-ended constitutional crises. But we worry too much. The best Roman era was the early Caesar period. So I guess the American Renaissance is just a little hard to recognize under the totalitarian skeleton needed to prop it all up. Huge economic and state-bureaucratic interests cannot normally be opposed. These take revolutionary moments, a mass euphoria and outrage channeled into a better vision, though unfortuately a vision that falls victim to revolutionary methods.
All Out For the WAR! Victory at any cost! Questions are treason! All power to the Executive! Trust your leaders!
Drug War. Terror War. Immigration War. The “Long War.” The Republicrats have no initiatives except WAR. Permanent, open-ended wars are more important than 40 million uninsured, tens of millions of mothers and children in poverty, millions in jail for non-violent drug “offenses.” More important than the Constitution!
You too can get paid by joining the war effort! Be a lawyer or prison guard or cop or rehab counselor or Ad Council-type propagandist or addiction-researcher or pee-tester. Or be a politician with a handy scapegoat for the poverty, alienation and social problems their system brings.
Do it for God, do it for country, or do it for money. At root they all seem to be the same thing anyway, just a question of whether your timeframe is eternal, historic, or ephemeral.
I watched “Bagdhad E.R.” last night. I know the court of King George didn’t want it to be on… something about “national security”… I have been against this war and against the authoritarian regime of the Burning Bush since before he was selected by the Supreme Court. But this show… it was the most horrific thing I’ve ever seen; I forced myself to watch it. I cried and yelled and wanted to throw up all through out- and every single person in America who supports this war as “necessary” to our “freedom” should watch this and see what the F%#@ is really happening to the soldiers- not to mention the thousands of Iraqi victims! Be forewarned: “Bagdhad E.R.” makes John Carpenter movies look like a cakewalk; it’s not just blood-soaked floors from blown-off body parts, these are real scenes of real people of real casualties. The only punishment anywhere close to being justified for the nefarious war criminals- Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, et al- is for them to be the person in a war-torn emergency room putting blown-off body parts into plastic bags, 24/7, for the rest of their disgusting lives. May they all burn in bloody Hell for all etenity.
Thanks to all. Many good points made.
Maira, I too saw “B..E.R.” and horrific as that was I promise you that it is Much worse for the civilian victims of this abomination.
Will the USSA (United Sleepwalking States of America) ever awaken?
The worst president in US history, one of questionable legitimacy, trying to sabotage the Constitution? Bush is like a little boy playing the role of his father: a complete failure in his past business doings (only soaked Texas for public $ at the very end), installed in various posts through family cronyism, and now, playing the role of junior majesty. Bush’s is self-hypnotic, a dry drunk who bans opposing voices from his speeches and ignores external indicators that he’s losing it. His only contribution to US history is to have forced a crisis over criminal regime-think. The spoiled child of rich parents, he thinks he’s as great and imposing as the architecture that surrounds him and the juvenile associations he makes in his mind re his dad, the NWO mafia, and a cabal of formerly pro-fascist manipulators who frequented such places in the past. Rewarded for antisocial behaviors in the past (regime crimes for which he wasn’t caught), he is incapable of sorting out public affairs in terms of right and wrong. Instead, he thinks that public accountability is all a lie, as is public history, because criminal elements have always tried to rule through criminal economics. In Bush’s mind, the Constitution was overthrown years ago, when JFK was hit, if not decades earlier (the rise of Rockefeller and the robber barons), a mere concession to “the little people.”
Bush is a sociopath who was rewarded as a child for antisocial behaviors. He wants to be like his father and prefers to ignore all outward indicators that he’s a failure. The worse he fouls up, the greater he thinks himself. To Bush, the Constitution is merely a convenient fiction. In his mind, the JFK hit and the rise of Rockefeller and the robber barons were the end of constitutional government. Now he’s merely owning up to the truth behind the fiction. Bush’s only contribution to US history is to have forced a crisis over criminal regime-think, yet Bush will sabotage all efforts to hold his kind accountable. Some of his remarks are literally delusional: he said he has done more for human freedom than any other president, etc. Very bad karma.