
In last night’s wacky excuse for a joint presser with British Lapdog Tony Blair, George Bush made an admission of sorts:
A jaw-dropping moment occurred in Bush and Blair’s Thursday presser: Bush said he regretted saying "bring it on" (precise wording in 2003 was "bring ‘em on") and "wanted dead or alive." He admitted he should have been more sophisticated in his use of language.
The significance of this shouldn’t go unnoticed. Bush has now admitted what the progressive blog community has said all along: Bush’s tough talk was wrongheaded and cost lives.
While contrition may be a media policy that works with our lapdog press (and judging from CNN’s first blush of commentary, it seems to be getting the desired result), America must now ask what this admission means. Does Bush take responsibility for the deaths generated by his admitted mistake? Does he accept the logical conclusion that his bluster resulted in the killing and maiming of hundreds if not thousands of US troops?
Peter Daou nails it here. David Gregory said last night on MSNBC’s coverage that the President’s answer to the question seemed rehearsed. Personally, I thought Bush seemed like a petulant little baby, forced to take his silver spoon and use it to force down some much needed medicine, and say something because his political polling ass is getting fried. Conveniently, contrition came at Bushie’s own hour of need, and no earlier.
The President said: "We’ve been paying for it for a long time." Well, duh. Any of the spouses or family members or friends of all those soldiers killed or injured in Iraq and Afghanistan could have told you that. Or all of our embassy personnel stationed worldwide who have been on higher security alert. Or any of the members of the President’s cabinet or administration who have had to do the spiraling rapid entry into Iraqi airspace to throw off the stinger missles…or pretty much anyone with a functioning brain, really, could have told him that had he been willing to listen to the truth.
NOTE: Sharp-eyed reader Op99 caught the fact that the "paying for it" language dealt with Abu Ghraib and not the President’s asinine swagger talk on the public stage. While the Administration’s lack of foresight in pushing policies, over and over, led to abusive behavior at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere, after re-reading that portion of the transcript I’d note that Bush fails to take responsibility for those policies himself. More of the "buck stops elsewhere."
Here’s a thought for the President: you should have grown up a long time ago. Frat boy antics are unbecoming. And they are especially damaging on the public stage when other people’s children and husbands and wives and friends have their lives on the line. Try holding your office and its responsibilities in more respect instead of going for the cheap applause line. We’ll all be the better for it.
Oh, and Gen. Hayden was approved 78-15 as the new head of the CIA this morning (and just afterward, shots may have been fired somewhere in the Congressional parking garage — weird). I sure hope all those rumors of Hayden’s willingness to be Mr. Truth to Power are true — because this is one Imperial Presidency that is in sore need of some serious truthtelling.
UPDATE: I just re-watched the Tweety and Noron Fantasy Island analysis from last night (via Crooks and Liars). It’s even weirder the second time around. Bizarro, indeed.
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Fitz?
Fitz to the power!
rootz!
fitz
I’d like to question the answer, Mr. Trebek. What is ‘too little too late’?
Me hungry for Rove indictment!!!
Christy, you nailed it. Bush can only perceive the world at large through his own up periscope. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, he doesn’t just look like Ted Bundy, they share a great many personality traits as well.
The first thing I thought when I heard this last night was: “Boy, he must be scared!”
I can’t thing of a single other reason Chimpy McFlightsuit would ever actually admit doing something wrong.
BBC is reporting shots heard in the House of Representatives.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5021114.stm
You know, you could take some time and objectively assess the president’s words of contrition.
Why in the future would he be humble or introspective if the IMMEDIATE result is an “ah ha, told you so”.
The opinionated blogs (oxymoron!) make it impossible to have discourse.
I wouldn’t use the word “contrition” to describe Dubya’s remarks. I think his handlers realized that after years of war in Iraq, the “no mistakes come to mind” answer just wouldn’t cut it, especially standing next to Tony Blair.
The contrast between the two was quite something, in most answers. CNN tried something new – they put up a graphic at the bottom of the screen that tried to summarize the question (hard to do with some of the lengthy questions), and held it there so that the viewers could see what was actually asked throughout the answer that was being given. Blair was much better at addressing the actual question asked. Bush, on the other hand, was better at answering the question he wished had been asked.
If it was Bush by his lonesomeness, I don’t know if he would have answered the question this way. Since he/his handlers knew that Blair would likely answer such a question directly, they had no choice but to be ready themselves to do likewise. (Note that the question came from a British reporter, BTW)
I still firmly believe the GOP should be forced to impeach their own.
http://tinyurl.com/a6erq
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Keep the pressure on Congress… Talking about impeachment wakes people up… They question, it’s a strong motivator to get people thinking. It also lets Congress know how intense the dissapproval is for this President… They seem to be a little slow on the uptake. So please:
1) Sign petitions if you have not done so
2) Send a letter to Congress (both Senators & House rep)
3) Send a copy to the media
4) Enlist friends and family to help, ask them to chip in time
5) Spread the link around, email it (with a request to forward) post it on a blog, or in the comments of a news story.
Help out!!!
Thanks :)
The Hayden vote was a stomach-churning display.
Toss ‘em all out. Every single incumbent. Replace the Democrats with Republicans (who will notice?) and the Republicans with Democrats. We’ll wind up with the majority, and if nothing else, a lot of fresh faces, which can only do good at this point.
Hey, can someone point me to streaming news on this situation in DC? I just got to work.
Morning, y’all. *Streeeeetch* That was some party last night. The Bill O’Reilly pinata was just the thing.
Latest email to staff
RAW STORY Published: Friday May 26, 2006
NOT VERBATIM: LATEST EMAIL SENT TO STAFF READ TO RAW STORY….
# 1127 ET
US CAPITOL Police are continuing to investigate the sound of gunfire.
Rayburn building garage shut down. Longworth and Cannon and other garages are not affected. Capitol is open for above ground access but tunnels remain closed. As soon as the police have completed clearing the garage levels they will begin to search the remainder of the [Rayburn] building beginning on the top floor and go down.
DEVELOPING….
IS THERE ANYONE ALIVE DUMB ENOUGH TO THINK THAT THIS IS LEGAL? That the Preznit can waive his magic wand and make securities laws irrelevant? All in the name of “national security”?
I swear, if you want to understand what’s going on, read Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, Shirer.
http://www.businessweek.com/bw….._id=search
MAY 23, 2006
By Dawn Kopecki
Intelligence Czar Can Waive SEC Rules
Now, the White House’s top spymaster can cite national security to exempt businesses from reporting requirements
President George W. Bush has bestowed on his intelligence czar, John Negroponte, broad authority, in the name of national security, to excuse publicly traded companies from their usual accounting and securities-disclosure obligations. Notice of the development came in a brief entry in the Federal Register, dated May 5, 2006, that was opaque to the untrained eye.
Gus Smith @ 10
I think the problem is that many (most? all?) of us feel the President has absolutely no credibility whatsoever. Given that he’s spent the last five years unapologetically (even unabashadly) wreaking havok with things like the Constitution, civil rights, and our country’s image around the world, this is not only “too little, too late” as someone mentioned above, but also highly suspect in the face of his record low polling and the almost daily bad news of multiple Republican scandals.
But maybe we’re just being cynical.
Good morning, all.
As I mentioned last night…‘40,000 times’.
in front of the entire class
Gus,
Blow it out your ass.
“We told you so” is hardly what is being said. We were right then. We’re right now. This is hardly triumphalism, but calling a callow frat boy out on his bullshit.
The sad part it to watch the press lick up those crocodile tears and claim them to be like the finest of wine…
Gus Smith (#10):
nanu nanu Gus! and from which galaxy are you visiting?
I missed the press conference, but if his two “regrets” were “Bring ‘em on” and Abu Ghraib, then note:
The first reminds me of the punch line of a joke of which the person telling me forgot the setup, but it didn’t matter. The line is, “You’se ain’t confessin’. You’se braggin’!” Thus, the Chimpster “regrets” being too cocky, too tough, too swaggering…Don’t do me any favors.
As for the second, he regrets what others did, that, alas, “we” have to pay for. It’s like the difference between regretting doing X, and regretting getting caught.
The one is a macho boast; the other is, as always, someone else’s fault.
Call me when he owns up to the monstrous things he himself set in motion. Any bets on if that will ever happen?
whats up with Joe Scarborough? of ALL the people chris matthews had on his panel to dissect the Bush/Blair dog and pony show JOE was the most critical and made the most astute comments concerning the well rehearsed mia culpa admitions…even giving a sympathetic nod to the tough situation David Gregory is in trying to walk a fine line concerning what he can criticize or speculated concerning dubya’s mis culpa’….
is Joe a harbinger of things to come for the republicans in november…is Joe expressing the truie feelings of the core base of team BUSH??? he was merciless in his criticism of he bush blair event. what gives? and bush didnt admit anything….he HAS used this script before..usuallly before a friendly audience where his admission that he was to much of a ‘cowboy’gets wild applause…if you can rewatch his admission of wrongdoing..look for the snide smile and the scripted pause for applause..he tried not to pause but it was instinctual…as is his smirk.
Shots in the Rayburn parking garage… I know it’s sick, but I’m guessing a suicide.
Oh, and Gus Smith @ 10:
“opinionated blogs” is not an oxymoron. It’s a redundancy.
Darkblack,
As usual, another stellar graphic.
Also, check out this quote from Zinsmiester, Bush’s new policy advisor. I think he has taken the place of Claude “Sticky Fingers” Allen.
(Snip)
“People in Washington are morally repugnant, cheating, shifty human beings,” the Syracuse weekly quoted him as saying.
(End of snip)
What is it that compels these people to want to be, live and work with the very groups they loathe so much. It’s like gluttonous, degenerate gambler and moral scold “Dollar” Bill Bennett, becoming Education Secretary after calling for years for that office to be abolished.
Linky doodle on the Zinsmiester.
http://www.nysun.com/article/33442?page_no=1
-GSD
RH NOTES: We do a lot of criticism, joking and the like on this blog. But we do not, ever, express glee over the potential for violence. Against public officials or otherwise. Period. Now back to our regularly scheduled critique…
Palast on democracynow.org this a.m. was amazing: conviction of lay and skilling still leaves the criminal energy gang in charge of screwing consumers.
He’s right, of course. He points out that “deregulation” of the energy business is really the “decriminalization” of screwing electricity customers.
Points out that everyone got a pass on the illegal scheme to drive up electricity costs in CA with “burn baby burn” and “Get shorty” and “screw grandma Milly”. The energy mafia funded AARnold’s campaign for governor and he made it all go away cheap. The Enrons and others got to keep billions, yes, billions in what they stole from customers.
And Lay and Skilling get thrown to the angry mob. What about the others involved?
But maybe we’re just being cynical.
Just because we’re being cynical doesn’t mean Bush isn’t a putz and part of the worst administration to ever infest this country.
knotIookin at 8:41
As a kid, did you ever watch “Professional” wrestling. Ever see the transformation of “wrestler” from hero to villian back to hero? Hey, it’s all entertainment these days.
“I sure hope all those rumors of Hayden’s willingness to be Mr. Truth to Power are true ” -
sorry Christy – considering what Hayden has been doing, and for whom he’s been doing it don’t think we have to worry about the truth to power thing
although I will enjoy watching events through the lens of the Negroponte v Rumsfield steel cage death match
Gus Smith – an oxymoron is when you have two contradictory things lumped together, like “a mournful optimist” (h/t American Heritage Dictionary). “Opinionated blogs” is just a description that makes sense.
We’ve got linguistic standards around here for snark (the “punaise test”), and this doesn’t even come close. Gus, if you’re gonna dump on folks, at least go to the trouble of getting your rhetorical devices right.
tom–chicago #27
Palast article on Lay and Capone:
http://www.gregpalast.com/deta…..&row=0
Christy,
“The President said: “We’ve been paying for it [his “tough talk”] for a long time.”
Check the transcript, “it” refers to Abu Ghraib, not his tough talk. Kind of interesting, anyway, he views Abu Ghraib in the context that it hurt our cause, not that it was a moral abomination or anything. Naaah.
Oh, and Gus Smith @ 10:
“opinionated blogs” is not an oxymoron. It’s a redundancy.
Oh you know, it’s just that right wing projection thing again…
Funny article about Libby from NY Daily News
No new information, but great headline
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/
Which one of the twelve steps is axing for forgiveness? I forget.
Oops — thanks, op99 — was reading through the transcript in a hurry. Will fix it above — appreciate the heads up. :)
Gus– those were not words of contrition, they were more lies. He just regretted having to say them at all. I did not notice an iota of regret in his body language, did you? Didn’t even see any of the requisite lip trembling that he displays when he talks about the dead.
The only thing he regrets are his dumpster diving poll numbers; he could care less about little people here, there, or anywhere.
TR @ 28
Absolutely agree there. I’ve recently started a program of Reading Politics at People on Metro – already finished Worse Than Watergate and halfway through How Would a Patriot Act? and, my God, they’re even worse than I already believed.
It sounds sensationalist to the casual observer for someone to mention we’re facing a Constitutional crisis, but the truth is that we absolutely are. I’m still burned out from ‘04, but starting early to gear up for ‘06. I figure if I can get at least one person each way (to and from work) who’s curious enough to check out what I’m reading, that’s either a progressive I’ve encouraged by being more visible or a conservative I’ve pissed off for the same reason.
Really, I’m fine either way ;)
Was it the Newsweek guy (wolf(e)) on Keith last night who recounted how once finished with his ‘regrets’, Bush looked out at the press in the front row and smiled like a nine year old at a school play who got all his lines right ??
I’m sure if I go over to NYT or WaPo it’ll be there – oh yeah right
I was watching it live and I don’t see it as significant at all (Bush admitting mistakes).
Clearly, we are paying for the whole damn war, the lies into the war, and his stupid comments along the way are just the maraschino cherry on top of the pile of shit.
He clearly picked the dumbest and most obviously stupid things he’s done along the way to avoid the fact that
oops,
to avoid fact that the WHOLE DAMN THING WAS A MISTAKE.
Shorter Bush Contrition,
I’m sorry you asshats couldn’t get it right despite my bravado.
I’m sorry those stupid jarheads got caught torturing prisoners of war.
Christy,
Speaking of the Tweety-Noron, Bush as Lincoln fantasy, Well, the more you think about it, the worse it gets
Shirer is great for understanding this Forth Reich. I especially like his ‘ Berlin Diary’ that I read last year. Early gonzo reporter on the spot! Another great read though dense and depressing is Michael Burleigh’s history of the Third Reich. ( Hellery’s book is ‘ living HIS STORY ‘ btw not ‘ living hirstory’.Das Klintons are Weimer Republicans imho)
Shot’s fired?
GOOD!
This precinct was designed as fascist architecture and should all be destroyed by safe implosion. The Vietnam war monuments can stay.
All that other shit can make good road fill.
Fuck the forth Reich for all the good they have done and to all hell with their collaborators and enablers and propagandist’s. You know who you are and why some of us are coming for you truth-and- rec commissions or no truth-and-rec commissions.
Drink the dregs of yr Kool-aid down now and wash the lot down with hemlock if you know whats good for you. We mean it MAAAAN!
The condensed Bush contrition: Regrets? I’ve had a few, but then again, too few to mention.
http://img.photobucket.com/alb…..onjerk.jpg
22# knotIookin says:
May 26th, 2006 at 8:41 am
whats up with Joe Scarborough?
never trust Scarborough!!! just ask the dead intern, they found in his office.
oh ya — you can’t: she is dead!
joe’s ‘question all things bush’ act is gonna get more and more play with da RAPE PUBLIC CONs; they are gonna find many faults with the dim son — so they can run against him in 06 . . .
mr. scarborough — go fuck yourself!
ALLAH is just alright!
OT (my specialty):
Re: someone’s earlier comment about Mary Cheney’s lagging book sales….
No self-respecting gay (or straight) dems want to know anything about her, since she’s the loyal daughter of Political Evil Embodied.
No self-respecting right-wing nutjobs want to know anything about her, since she’s the lesbian spawn of the Real and Present Satan.
Mary Cheney represents the worst of all worlds to most people.
She bends herself into pretzels to help one of the worst criminals this country has ever seen in the White House by simultaneously being ‘out’ when politically convenient yet boiling over with closet-priveleged outrage (a trick she passed down from the female podperson/test-tube who bore her) that anyone (like, say, John Kerry) would mention her already publicly acknowledged lesbianism IN PUBLIC.
All this is timed and scripted to prove that Mary (and thus her dear ol’ Dick) is only ‘human’ with ‘feelings’ and ‘vulnerabilties,’ (but only when the word ‘indictment’ floats in the atmosphere). But what remains in the American memory is the empty family hypocrisy that we’ve all come to know and love once our Mary softens from another staged red alert back down to the classic Cheney yellow.
Plus, other than her value as political furniture to be hauled out or hidden away at the whim of her mentally ill parents, Mary Cheney is just not that interesting.
Anyone else notice that Bush said that his “tough talk” was “taken the wrong way” in “some parts of the world”?
WTF? How many ways can “bring it on” and “dead or alive” be taken? Does he mean he was just kidding?
Which one of the twelve steps is axing for forgiveness? I forget.
The Lizzie Borden step?
Dear hubby and I were eating dinner (well, he was, I was resting after a bout with some bad food) while watching the men impersonating leaders with gravitas. DH had to put his plate down several times to rail at the TB and he gave up eating altogether at Matthews and O’Donnell. I thought she might get on her knees to the Chimp at one point – whether to pray or for some other reason, I can only guess. Our big surprise was Scarborough’s show. Wow, he wasn’t buying it for one minute.
I, too, would love to see the moment Richard Wolffe (sp?) described, of Chimpy splitting a grin after his performance. Crooks and Liars got nothin’ new up since yesterday, whazzup? Are they switching servers today? There’s a link to youtube with some great Django Reinhart clips, though.
Lock down again at the Capitol. News conference was to be at noon via cnn.
Via Atrios, here’s some good news in an otherwise depressing news day..
MoveOn endorses Ned Lamont:
http://nedlamont.com/blog/235/moveon-endorses-ned
Haven’t read all comments yet, so maybe covered.
When he said he regretted Abu “Garaibh”, you could almost see the thought bubble “THose damn pictures ruined everything.”
working from home so news in background – no clear info on the shots fired thing … lots of speculation and ambulances but no info at all – locked down, tourists out, etc
news conference now
O/T
TPM Muck sources reporting courtroom gallery @ Day 2 of Safavian trial is “almost empty”
I get that everyone’s waiting on Neil Volz’s testimony, but this was the Govt.’s chief procurement officer, being charged with what, 3 felony counts and they can’t put the cocktail weenies down long enough to at least put a cub reporter in the courtroom AARRGGHH!!
Hayden’s truth to power maxim will extend to the true power: THE MILITARY.
Ultimately, this is the beginning of the end for the civilian CIA, it will be militarized and absorbed, Borg-like into the Pentagon.
On the upside, there should be fewer turf wars…
OT, but worth it –
For all he’s done, Kobe deserves the Nobel Peace Prize in Veterinary Medicine — at least as much as Loofah O’Rielly deserves the Peabody Polk in Journalisming Wankery . . .
just sayin’ . . .
“no reports of injuries at this time” according to Capitol Police
PIO for capitol police – continue to investigate, have capitol police still in building
no information to give out – no word on someone in custody, talk of a suspect, only thing they are saying is “several tactical teams in the building”
basically no story yet – no independent confirmation of shots fired, info was called in, nothing found yet
i too was pretty amazed that GW “acknowledged” a regret…my favorite part was the way he looked up at the ceiling while he did it…what’s up with that…did they put the monitor on the ceiling?…was he looking accusatively at some version of a Supreme Being as if to blame the SB for forcing him to cough up a confession (’ok, ok I’m doing it…happy now?).
and he sure did seem pleased with his performance once said confession was over and done with…as if he’d just passed a kidney stone
Take it Addie…
“Ja, the gas ovens. Looking back on it, I would say that harmed our popularity somewhat. Still paying for it today. We should have been more sophisticated. Some sort of laser, maybe.”
they have a ‘firing range’ in the parking garage?!?
what kind of world do we live in?
Wonder where Fitz is today… this is an extraordinary diversion.
Who knew? There is a firing range in the Rayburn garage.
Breaking News:
Harry Whittington seen leaving the Rayburn Building with Dick Cheney hot on his trail.
-GSD
As to Mary Cheney, I can’t figure out just who would buy her book? Political watchers? Straights? Gays? Christian Fascists? Psychologists?
Americablog has a post about one of the “Christian Astro-turf” groups using the Mary Cheney story to trump up the anti-queer fear. Congrats Mary, you have alienated those that have compassion for gays and have given a nice talking point to those who would like to see you re-educated or worse.
-GSD
I don’t know which is worse:
(1) the grudging admission that his rhetoric was over-the-top; he was uncomfortable, I believe, in HAVING to say those words. If his numbers were higher, he would never have gone that route.
(2) the fact that all he is willing to cop to is a bad choice of words; he took no responsibility for Abu Ghraib, just regrets that someone else got caught carrying out the policies of this administration;
(3) that the media can so easily mistake his words for “candor;” How is someone being candid, when everyone BUT him already knew the truth of what he was grudgingly admitting to?
(4) that the talk is meaningless without a change in policy. Which means more death and injury, more harm to our standing in the world, and no sense that military engagement with Iran is at all off the table.
It’s all bad.
Christy, I’m gonna change my name to “oops99″ lol, it’s “asinine” not “asanine”. Sorry to be a pain in the keester, but I think you hate having errors front-paged. ;)
Oxymoron v Redundancy … I got beaten to it.
As far as the apology, bah! I find it inconsequential. It is like offering a man dying of thirst in the desert a can of Coke. Yeah, he might think it is helping his thirst, but it is only dehydrating him even further. (4 years of band-camp in the hot Mississippi August sun…lesson 1. do not quench thirst with carbonated beverages)
Look, of all of Bush’s statements and words, the “Bring ‘em on” and “wanted dead or alive” are probably the most inconsequential. Yeah, he said them tauntingly, yeah he said them in speeches meant to rile us up for war, blah blah blah.
But I promise you my friend is not sitting in Iraq right now because the President said “Bring ‘em on”. He and our other soldiers are there because the president and his ilk lied and told us that there were weapons and mass destruction in Iraq and that there were connections between Saddam and Al Qeida.
You’re dying of thirst. Stop taking the cola and start demanding water!
Look, all the discourse I see about this apology is about “what it means” and “what is next”. It means nothing. He said it because it means nothing. He didn’t apologize for what counts. He apologized for catch phrases and sound-bites. The things he apologized about have no substance. Trying to GIVE it substance will do nothing except make you look like bigger fools when everyone finally realizes that the things he apologized for have no substance.
*sigh*
Thank you
Although I didn’t like his answer, I credit VandeHei for including this question about Murray Waas’ latest:
OfT: “Sagamore Beach, Mass.: Any new developments with the Rove case? How does the National Journal story about Rove and Novak possibly coordinating their testimony affect the case, in your mind?
Jim VandeHei: a lot of question on this National Journal Story. If and when we confirm the details we will write about it. Right now our focus is on whether Rove will get indicted and what issues remain open pertaining to that case.”
Also, VandeHei had a lot of questions about the “titilating” coverage of the Clinton’s marriage.
I dunno, the contrived non-apology apology seems peculiarly timed. Why the contrition-interruptus now, surely not just the poll numbers.
Hey, c’mon guys! Maybe Gus has a point. I mean, remember how welcoming the right was to Bill Clinton’s contrition? How forgiving of John Kerry and Jane Fonda they were when they said they had used the wrong words to describe an ill-conceived war? Why, when Teddy Kennedy took responsibility for events at Chappaquiddick all those years ago they let it go at jump street. Right?
Oh, yeah, that’s right. Fuck ‘em.
VandeHei doesn’t have the integrity or intelligence of Murray Waas’ pinky!!
Plain and simple…”A lot of questions my ass pool boy Bushbot”. The pool boy really IRKS me!
Gunfire heard in U.S. House office garage
I wonder if anyone thought to get Bush off his bicycle this time?
grrtigger at 8:50am
Having just completed Glenn Greenwald’s book ( How Would a Patriot Act? ) I think that this single most important book I have read with respect to explaining the ROOT problem — i.e. the abuse of executive power; a president that considers himself and his administration above the law — and a Congress and media that insist on acquiesing to that view.
Glenn’s book is very short, very inexpensive, very well written, gets directly to the point, puts the current issues in proper historical context, and uses a very easy to understand vocabulary. (i.e. the average Joe could could easily read and understand this in an afternoon or over 2-3 nights. No esoterical arguments, long-winded academic discussion or terminology that would require a law degree to decipher.)
The book also does not come at this issue from a partisan standpoint. The book is likely to offend only that 29% of the population that continues to insist Bush is a great guy.
I’ve taken it upon myself to purchase 10 copies of “How Would A Patriot Act?” and get them into the hands of people I know will read it.
Because I’ve been following this administration pretty close the past few years, I doubted there was much I would learn from Glenn’s book. But I was wrong. Glenn and the people who helped him compile this did a marvelous job. If you haven’t read it yet, please do so.
I truly believe it is the single most important issue that faces us today.
Just watched ‘The Confession’ on C&L (w/QT)
I bet if you run Swaggert’s ‘confession’ from days of yore side-by-side w/Bush and both muted you’d find a significant similarity. Just no tears. Probably ‘not presidential’ for a Decider-in-Chief.
—
On the lockdown: if a suicide, could be a distraught staffer in a car. Could be overlooked on first investigation…
Some things I’ll never understand. Among the 15 Senators voting NO on Hayden’s confirmation was Specter. WTF? Others voting NO: Bayh, Cantwell, Clinton, Dayton, Dodd, Dorgan, Durbin, Feingold, Harkin, Kennedy, Kerry, Menendez, Obama, Wyden.
Not voting: Boxer, Conrad, Inouye, Rockefeller, Salazar, Dole, Thune.
Just offhand for NC residents, what do you pay Dole for, anyhow? Does she ever vote?
http://projects.washingtonpost…..votes/160/
Could it be that somebody stole someone’s copy of Crashing the Gates and it prompted a hot pursuit and gunfire?
Being contrite appears to be “the new black” for the administration. They think it will boost him in the polls.
The first thing that came to my mind was a follow up question to Bush’s admission: “How do you feel about those that were labled “traitors” that were openly critical of you for those remarks that you admit were a mistake?”
I emailed Tweety essentially that very question after he fawned over Bush for making those remarks. Its funny to watch him try to crawl even further up Bush’s colon with every new speech.
Via RawStory:
May 26th, 2006 at 09:11:33
——————————————————————————–
Poll: Just 24% trust President Bush
UPI
A Zogby Interactive poll finds that U.S. voters are more distrustful than ever of political and corporate leaders.
Only 3 percent believe Congress is trustworthy; 7 percent think business leaders are; 24 percent say President George W. Bush can be trusted; and 29 percent trust the courts.
RE: the prez’s Abu Grrraab contrition: no one asked, “Does he regret it happening or does he regret it leaking?”
Whoo! Fall of Berlin baby!
I couldn’t see that headline at the newsday link but check out Bloomberg running scared!
Intelligent design
Yesterday, Bloomberg blasted the teaching of “intelligent design” in public schools, calling it “creationism by another name.”
Gun control
Bloomberg is quickly becoming the most vocal elected official in the country in the battle against illegal guns. He accused federal lawmakers of coddling crooks. He held a gun summit for mayors around the country. And he filed a federal lawsuit against 15 gun dealers for allegedly selling weapons illegally.
Immigration
Bloomberg supports allowing an estimated 12 million undocumented immigrants to earn permanent status. In an Op-Ed piece in The Wall Street Journal and national TV appearances Wednesday, Bloomberg endorsed creating a federal identification card %u2014 with a person’s DNA or fingerprints %u2014 for all job applicants.
Stem cell research
Earlier this year, Bloomberg donated $100 million to Johns Hopkins University, specifying that some of the funds be used to support embryonic stem-cell research. Yesterday, without mentioning President Bush by name, Bloomberg lambasted the feds for restricting funding for creating new cell lines.
Abortion
Bloomberg, the father of two daughters, strongly supports a woman’s right to an abortion.
Sounds suspiciously like ‘ Acid, amnesty and abortion’ to me. A ‘Gehlen’ fox on the run?
Come on over Michael – and bring the list with all yr networks on it. Defect now and avoid the rush to the fuhrerbunker.
Fitzgerald said Cheney’s state of mind at the time he jotted those notes is “directly relevant” to the perjury and obstruction of justice charges against I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, the vice president’s former top aide.
Libby faces trial in January on charges that he lied to FBI agents and a federal grand jury about how he learned CIA officer Valerie Plame’s identity and what he later told reporters.
But former federal prosecutor Ty Cobb said Fitzgerald’s revelation about using Cheney as a witness seems like an act of desperation. “You don’t play that card unless you think you are in danger of being shut down,” Cobb said.
Cobb said he doubts Libby’s case will go to trial because of the enormous amount of classified evidence involved. A key element of Libby’s defense is that he was too preoccupied with heady, national security issues to leak Plame’s CIA affiliation to reporters as a way to strike back at her husband, former U.S. Ambassador Joseph Wilson, for his criticism of the administration’s push to invade Iraq.
“Now Fitzgerald’s pitch is, ‘This goes all the way up in the White House. Judge, don’t shut me down,”‘ Cobb said.
http://www.seacoastonline.com/…..104686.htm
The Confessorater?
“Bring ‘em on” was wrong to say because it was crass and insensitive. I don’t believe any more GI’s were killed as a result of the phrase than would have been otherwise. I don’t believe insurgents heard the taunt and said, “Yes, let us redouble our efforts, per the President’s request.” They would have ramped up their efforts to kill as many Americans as possible regardless.
The rhetoric that greased the skids to invasion, and the invasion itself, constituted the fatal swagger. Don’t hold your breath for apologies for those.
I didn’t watch the press conference because my stomach can’t take looking at Bush’s smirky face. But I heard a few clips from it today.
What an embarrassment to have such a dumbfuck occupying (pun intended) the presidency next to the Brits’ PM. At least Blair can form sentences, and can answer questions.
Anyhow, the way I heard Bush’s regret over “dead or alive” was that people expect Bin Laden to be gotten in one or the other conditions.
Obviously really fighting the terrorists, i.e. Bin Laden, Al Qaieda, and the Taliban, was never part of the neocon cabal’s plans. Enter Iraq over the American’s dead democracy.
Anyway, here’s the roll call on the Hayden vote. I’m pleased to say both my senators voted Nay. I’ve already called and thanked them.
http://senate.gov/legislative/…..vote=00160
Bush: “People misinterpreted my comments”
Shorter Bush: “Those crazy Muslims somehow misinterpreted “Bring it on” and “Wanted dead or alive” as some sort of challenges.
How stupid and misinterpreting of them.
-GSD
froggermarch 72, Oh yes, I do remember.
Fuck’em.
Ty Cobb needs to go back and read the filing, wherein it clearly states that the goverment has made no representations on whether it will or will not call the VP as a witness (Footnote 3, page 4 of the Reply).
Bring ‘em on was a shot heard round the world by other leaders and common folk, though. It was a stupid thing to say and did harm to our image, imho. We’ve all known schoolyard bullies and that’s what he is, only problem is he doesn’t do the fighting, the killing, the bleeding, or the dying.
After admitting a couple of mistakes (his macho talk and Abu Ghraib), he says something like “we’ve been paying the price ever since.” By paying the price, is he referring to the citizen’s and the world’s lack of support for him or to the loss of life in Iraq.
Beavis and Butthead, with Bush being the one who snickers the most.
Prof. Rat,
Bloomberg may be setting himself up for an Independant run for the Whitehouse.
He switched from D to R, the next step is I.
-GSD
List this under holding them accountable: Hayden Vote Yea 78 Nea 15
Voting No on Hayden for CIA Director: 15
Bayh (D-IN)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Obama (D-IL) Could there still be hope for him?
Wyden (D-OR)
Specter (R-PA) The only Republican, good going for once Arlen!
Not Voting : 7 Rockefeller is recovering but what’s up with the rest of these guys, especially Barbara Boxer?!
Boxer (D-CA)
Conrad (D-ND)
Inouye (D-HI)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Dole (R-NC)
Thune (R-SD)
Democrats Voting for Hayden: Weasels
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Biden (D-DE) Blatherman hisself
Bingaman (D-NM)
Byrd (D-WV) Crotchety or senile, you choose.
Carper (D-DE)
Feinstein (D-CA)Staying true to her creepy self
Johnson (D-SD)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ) Huh? They got video on you or something?
Leahy (D-VT) He disappoints me at least half the time
Levin (D-MI) He should just know better
Lieberman (D-CT) Smoking Joe! You knew he would.
Lincoln (D-AR)
Mikulski (D-MD) Talk big, vote small
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV) With leadership like this . . .
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY) As I was saying, with leadership . . .
Stabenow (D-MI)
Cobb thinks Fitzgerald’s latest filing an “an act of deperation”? Hmmm. I think not. But IANAL.
From yesterday’s discussion here, the main thing I took away is that the media’s focus on “Cheney may testify” is perhaps overblown because what Fitzgerald was saying is that Cheney’s testimony would be one of three possible ways to bring his handwritten notes into evidence.
Fitzgerald strikes me as calm and calculated rather than ‘deperate’ but again of course, IANAL.
That said, I stand by my position that Libby will never serve a day in jail and Cheney will never take the witness stand. I believe the White House will issue Libby a full pardon before that ever comes to pass.
OfT: Rather intriguing stuff about the Preznit’s replacement for Claude Allen as Domestic Policy Advisor in the White House. First of all, he is the author of a comic book about the Iraq War. No, really. Perhaps this explains his appeal in the Bush White House?
read it here: http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind…..insmeister
Additionally, his latest non-comic book has a foreword by Dr. Laura:
http://www.tcc.edu/news/press/…..eister.htm
There seems to be some scrubbing of his American Enterprise Institute writings from the interwebs, but he’s written provocative articles with titles like “What’s Wrong With Day Care?” and “What’s Wrong With Democrats?”(hint: Karl says everything, mostly). He also believes that children are better off if their parents stay together rather than getting divorced.
I also like his optimism about the Iraq war, which he claims we won in June 2005. Who knew? Here’s his “embedded” view from 2003:
http://www.christiansciencemon…..1-coop.htm
Can’t get much simpler than a Marvel comic book, though, when it comes to explaining things to The Decider….
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If MrsK8 is not around, please let her know when she shows up.
It may not be as detailed an answer as you want, but my friend the Telco whiz (and in the Army he designed and built secure comm/data networks) says it could be caused by a lot of things; and he didn’t seem surprised or think it a worry (He would jump at the chance of suggesting something sinister if he could – trust me). He said that if you use VOIP, then it might be lost data packets.
I doubt that is as insightful as you wanted, but it doesn’t seem like something to worry about.
OT
Ironic bit of news I just found in my email:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01670.html
“Lewinsky case’s prosecutor accused of stalking woman”
Professor R (#45):
i like that label “fourth reich”. doesn’t have “a nice ring to it” but it is very apt.
EPU, you’ve got some interesting friends.
Whether or not “Bring it on” or “Dead or Alive” resulted in more deaths or injuries is not as important as the breathtaking lack of sensitivity and respect it showed to the thousands of family members and friends of those who were sent into harm’s way. There’s a big difference when those words are uttered from the safety and security of the Oval Office by a man who has never seen combat or put his own life on the line.
The time for apologies was in the hours immediately after the words were uttered, not years later.
Blood boiling.
Lamest job interview question:
“What are your weaknesses?”
Most people have a pat answer for that question. In the answer, we typically describe something that can also be taken as a strength.
Bush has his answer now, probably forced on him by his advisors.
Maybe Hastert is shooting it out with FBI agents who are trying to search his office.
But former federal prosecutor Ty Cobb said Fitzgerald’s revelation about using Cheney as a witness seems like an act of desperation. “You don’t play that card unless you think you are in danger of being shut down,” Cobb said.
Cobb said he doubts Libby’s case will go to trial because of the enormous amount of classified evidence involved. A key element of Libby’s defense is that he was too preoccupied with heady, national security issues to leak Plame’s CIA affiliation to reporters as a way to strike back at her husband, former U.S. Ambassador Joseph Wilson, for his criticism of the administration’s push to invade Iraq.
ccmask –
I read that article last night. One of the things that jumped out at me was the name of the “former prosecutor” who insinuates that Fitzgerald is “desperate.”
Ty Cobb?
Related, perhaps, to that Ty Cobb? You know, the (in)famous and stunningly racist baseball player?
Anybody here know? If he’s not related, you gotta figure he came by his first name via parents who just loved the infamous original.
And now they so regret the harm that was done by torture that they are reinstating grunts e-mail, digital cameras and mil-blogs?
Yeah right.
When this Bush crime family ever STOP lying, that will be news. Roll on the Fitzkrieg – we’re across the Rhine now – NO PRISONERS!
Re: shots in the Capitol parking garage . . . I’m guessing a car backfiring (duh!)
EPU –
I’m glad I happen to be here to catch your comment at #95.
No, we don’t use VoIP. Just a regular landline over Qwest phone lines, so it’s not the cable company either.
Well, it’s good to know it’s nothing to worry about. I wish I understood these matters, just out of a real curiosity about how stuff works, but I guess it would take a whole bunch of coursework to bring me up to speed enough to “get” the details.
Please thank your friend for his attention to the question, and keep loads of thanks left over for your own thoughtful and helpful self.
Hugs to you!
GSD—#66
I wonder how many of Mary Cheney’s 4000 books were bought by her 100 million-dollar-dad?
I too have been critical of J-Scar in the past, but he was jaw-droppingly critical last night . . . he’s making up for lost time in a big way! Don’t write him off . . . he could have passed for a card-carrying member of the liberal media in a second!
I also remember him being not SO bad at the Dem convention as well. I think he’s ok.
Here’s a little thought experiment:
Lets’ say, just for the sake of argument (and hoping it’s never a true story), that a staffer or even a Congresscritter committed suicide in an office building garage.
What would happen when that person’s body is found? Would we get the story straight up from the get-go? Or do you think they might hide the truth for a while during which everyone scrambles to get their p.r. ducks in a row?
why blow off this same question twice when asked by AMERICAN REPORTERS…. only to talk to the Brittish people/? Explanation is certainly required……
Mary Cheney is for gays what Condi Rice is for blacks and Hillary Clinton is for progressives.
Whatever corn-on-the-Cobb is smoking I want some!
I don’t doubt Fitz for a second. Not now. Fitz is loaded for bear. Fitz is the second coming of Oppenheimer… I am become death, the destroyer of worlds. They can run but they can’t hide.
They said whats done is done and there is nothing else to do now.
No, they are criminals. I will not follow them, and certainly not blindly as they would have us do.
maybe tweety was trying to say that bush reminded him of the commander cody song “hot rod lincoln.”
Re: Bush press conf: Too little, too late.
If he wants to admit to errors in rhetoric, vs. errors in action, he should point to examples such as the axis of evil, the loooming mushroom cloud, and Mission Accomplished. Those words did REAL harm. But of course he can’t admit to anything that he REALLY did wrong or people might figure out he’s a crappy president.
In regards to the Zinsmeister comic book. I bet policy papers have to be storyboarded for the Decider Chimp.
He is that feeble.
-GSD
You can always tell when Bush is saying something he rehearsed … he gets that little smirk on his face, like: “Gee, watch this, I’m going to recite what I learned word for word!” The media gave him way too much credit last night when they said that he “genuinely felt” what he was talking about. He doesn’t genuinely feel anything – ever. He is a mouthpiece, and that’s all he is.
Turley talking on cnn– he points out that he is locked in a room right after hearings about press freedom. He thinks it is a sociology experiment– congresscritters locked in with reporters — survival of the fittest.
The Dems voting ‘for’ Hayden – I believe Reid et al thought a vote for Hayden, was a vote against Rumsfield – of course ignoring the horror that is Negroponte, but I believe that’s what was going on there – I think they might have been played (shocked, shocked I tell you) by the ‘Hayden bumps heads w/Rumsfield’ meme but I think that is what they were doing
and again, Arlen is concerned w/ history’s treatment of him and this was his too little too late attempt at salvaging his ‘constitutional adherent’ image – shoulda thought about that when you refuse to swear Abu in Arlen !
Air America Radio talking about the Murray Waas article on Franken’s show right now.
In the eyes of the Confessor,
There’s no place you can hide.
You can’t hide from the eyes (of the Confessor)
Don’t you even try.
In the eyes of the Confessor
You can’t tell a lie,
You cannot tell a lie (to the Confessor)
Strip you down to size,
Naked as the day that you were born,
Naked as the day that you were born.
Take all the trauma, drama, comments,
The guilt and doubt and shame
The what if’s and if only’s
The shackles and the chains
The violence and aggresion,
The pettiness and scorn,
The jealousy and hatred,
The tempest and discord,
AND GIVE IT UP!
~Joe Walsh
Rob says:
May 26th, 2006 at 9:50 am
He doesn’t genuinely feel anything – ever. He is a mouthpiece, and that’s all he is.
Watch and listen when he is talking about death, destruction, violence, aggression; he is quite comfortable and articulate.
As Froomkin pointed out the other day, everytime the Bushman wants to impress us with progress in Iraq he declares we or they have reached a “turning point”- if he was always right then you could say he’s been turning in circles. As for his latest unilateral annoucement that some Corps will not have to comply with Securities and Exchange laws for “National Security reasons” has me wondering these things: Again, why has there been no reaction to a unilateral declaration that our federal laws have no application if the pres decides it to be so? Does that mean that the IRS has no real of law over the likes of Haliburton and Blackwater as well? Would it be fair to say that taxpayers will have no way of knowing how much they are being over charged, or how much of their tax dollars are being disappeared? Who comes up with these ideas? Is it to protect Cheney from diclosure of his stock options? Where does the line get drawn between National Security and the rule of law if Congress or the AG don’t make the distinctions between them?
the Ty Cobb guy – sounds like someone wanting in on the bloviating action – but his comments reflect someone not exactly versed in the facts and events of this case – maybe we could e mailhim a link to one of thoe nasty lefty blog sites ‘obsessed’ w/ the case – I know a good one -lol !
MrsK8-interesting theory on the Ty Cobb. Another WH flunkie most likely.
This shooting story reminds me of the morning of 911 when they reported for about 1/2 hour that white smoke was pouring out of the WH–then the story simply disappeared. Explanation later- a car fire on a side street. Yeah, right.
And now they’ve moved to something else – sorry – thought it might be more to it than it was.
I would love to see the Bush/Blair duo in the House of Commons for a coupla questions myself.
Boots in the oven don’t make em bisquits.
I got’cher “mistake” right HERE, GeeW:
http://www.bgladd.com/The_Disgracer_in_Chief.jpg
(one of innumerable)
Arrogant fucking dilettante prick.
Oh, and speaking of Abu: though he’s announced the recent roll-ups of predators and sweepstakes fraudsters, he missed two big moments in recent press-conference gloating. First, Moussaui didn’t get the death penalty, so Abu couldn’t go on teevee to preen about that verdict. Then, yesterday, the Dep AG (McNulty?) went out and talked about Lay and Skilling. My guess is that AG Abu was ducking questions about “his client” and Kenny-Boy.
Yesterday was a big win over white-collar crime, and our Attorney General is too compromised to represent The People in our victory dance.
That’s sad. But so very BushCo!
MrsK8 – Having worked in Congress (in the Rayburn building btw) as a staffer, experientially I don’t see how the true story wouldn’t come out quickly. Assuming the powers that be didn’t truthfully report whatever happened, staffers would know (or quickly learn) what really happened, and it would find its way to the media soon enough – and that was back in the early ’90s, before such things as Wonkette, etc.
To go with your example, if a staffer committed suicide, that office would know (or quickly learn) the truth, and once that happens, all of Congress will know, and then the media.
cbl #119
I’ve given up trying to rationalize bad votes by Democrats. It just gives me a headache. They could have said no to both Negroponte and Rumsfeld by voting down or even filibustering Hayden. The real reason they voted for or ducked the vote altogether is that they don’t care.
Tin foil hat territory: Maybe today is Fitzmas and Rover called in the “shots fired” on a disposable cell phone to draw the press away from Fitz’s presser?
Following up on Angie’s apt characterization (#90) of Bush’s “apology” as that of a schoolyard bully, here’s an interesting post on just that point by Liberal Girl Next Door…
http://www.liberalgirlnextdoor.blogspot.com/
We have lost this war. Time to get out. Now.
http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/89366
BobbyG 128 – what a piece of cod he is.
You might be aiming a bit high with the “fratboy” comparison.
I heard a report on NPR this morning(Brian Lehrer show)with a journalist who noted that after he made his “apology” Bush was smiling and winking at the press as if to say, “there, I did it.”
It’s the kind of thing that a child being potty trained does after he uses the toilet.
Utterly disgraceful. There is not a sincere bone in that cretin’s body.
That vote is a sure sign that Bayh is in the race.
Rob #117
I agree that Bush is an emotionally empty person. He’s also stupid. As he would say, “Double whammy!”
Hugh – of course I don’t disagree w/ you just think this was their way of “not looking soft on natl security’ AND (in their minds) sticking it to Rummy or at least the idea of an even more powerful Rummy
What our president has done is a Nurenburgh quality war crime. Reviewing the preambles articulated by the judges at Nurenburgh prior to the trials, I was struck by the startling relevancy of those preambles to Bush’s senseless invasion of Iraq, a soverign nation that did us no harm..
Bottom line… Saddam told the truth about WMD….Bush lied… the Downing Street memos startling evidence of his mendacity.
Actually, I thought the “dead or alive” quote came from just after 9-11 and referred to Bin Laden and al queda. If so, then I agree with the quote. Bin Laden needs to be hunted down and killed.
As to the rest of his “contrition”, I agree with the article above. Bush missed the point. His ill-conceived policy to invade Iraq did far, far more damage than any of his words.
Oh, and as to “abu”…all Bush could do was see that a few buck privates were prosecuted, rather than getting to the root of it. Just like all he could do on the Plame matter was sit idly by and refuse to get to the root of it and fire people. But…what else is new.
Ghostman
EPU –
Twice in one thread you get my thanks! It’s good to hear from someone who knows how things really work (at Rayburn, for example). Just to be clear to others: I wasn’t even donning a tin foil hat, just trying to imagine how such a scenario as a suicide WOULD unfold.
I’m glad to learn that the feds could NOT carry out a huge clamp-down of info in such a circumstance, even if they wanted to.
Interesting, the vote split between Schumer and Clinton; Hil’s usually just as reliably pathetic as Chuck. And when the heat’s on from NY progressives, they usually either both come ’round together (as on the Scalito cloture vote) or they hunker down together in DINOville (as on the Iraq war-whoop vote).
By “admitting” that shooting his mouth off was a mistake, Bush has side stepped any examination of mistaken policies. And Bush’s policies in Iraq are his biggest mistakes, not the fact that he shoots his mouth off.
Does anyone really think the Iraqis revolted because Bush said “Bring it on[?]” Really, while Bush’s comment showed how little he cared about our troops, it most likely had no effect in Iraq.
Anyone can shoot their mouth off, but not everyone invades a country based upon lies, and then is so incompetent he or she loses the war.
If Democrats wanted to not look soft, they might try actually standing for something. That would give them credibility. Trying to look tough on national security without credibility is just embarrassing, and unconvincing.
What’s the latest on today’s CODE BROWN distraction at the Capitol? Somebody farted a tight treble staccato one in a reverberating stairwell, and every cop within 100 miles has converged on the scene?
Christy, I am deeply disturbed by the picture. Just above the widow’s peak, cropped out, are his horns. I get gooseflesh looking at him; I’m going to have nightmares about that face. Can you post something beautiful this afternoon, just for balance?
I couldn’t help but think as I watched it that Blair was in some way demanding some kind of contrition from Bush. Chimpster would never have said those words if that british guy would not have been pressing the button on the electronic collar around his political neck.
Dana Priest says there is one bathroom in the committee room that is for members only– they are sharing it with all the peeps in the room. She pointed out that it has Men Only on it– wtf???
OT from last thread:
House Republicans huddled over Twinkies, chips and soft drinks for nearly two hours last evening about the constitutional impasse
Which would explain why Denny Hastert looks like the world’s largest talking intestinal polyp.
I think they ‘regret’ ( in perverted commas because they are congenital liars ) the ‘ dead or alive’ photo-op because it is now being turned on them. I use it all the time on Indymedia depending on which ‘ Con’ is in town.
The ‘ bring-it-on’ one I think they may actually genuinely regret even in their reptilian brain because of course the resistance did bring it on – and they won!
Vietnam 2 all over again. Credibility gap wider than the rift on Mars. I note he blew an opportunity to come clean on the BIG LIE about the tubes and yellowcake – but that was no ‘ mistake’ was it. That was the plan Stan.
The fucking goose may have placed his own head in a noose with this one.
Did anyone else catch where Bush once again quoted our own propaganda, the so-called Zarqawi memo that said, and I paraphrase, ‘the Americans will want to leave and then we will take over’. Didn’t anyone tell Bush that was a fake?
Sorta OT—anyone in NYC should see the play “Stuff Happens” at the Publick Theatre. The title is a quote from Rumsfeld about how things hadn’t worked out quite as advertised re :Iraq. It’s an analysis of the run up to the war that uses quotes from Bush, Blair, Rummy, Cheny (captured as pure evil), Condi, Powell—who you jhate by the end for not having a spine when he needed one–Wolfie urging on Iraq as the target, de Villepin calling the quest for a resolution for what it was—all the while confronting the issues–1) arent’ the Iraqis “free” now, so what does the how we got there matter and 2) did 9/11 change everything? And if it did, if it’s OK for us to attack a country that did nothing to us, then why can’t the Palestinians, the Chechens, the tamil Tigers? i.e., how do we define terrorist activities?—The Iraqi character at the end will knock your socks off—what a night of great political punch
Re torture
Until you hear the names of Gens. Sanchez and Miller, expect nothing substantive. BTW it is highly unlikely you will hear much on them since the trail above them through Cambone to Rumsfeld is remarkably short.
Re: the Hayden vote – it would be nice for a change if these people would just do the right thing instead of always “positioning” themselves, whether for the moment or for future ambitions.
And it’s certainly emblematic of our own distruct of their motives (and rightly so) that we spend so much time trying to figure out if the “yes” vote or the “no” vote was one one principle or expediency or looming elections, or a planned presidential bid.
It’s a damn shame we have been reduced to this, although I’m sure some will say that it has been ever thus. Tired of explaining away the indefensible on the basis of tradition.
“world’s largest talking intestinal polyp” ROFLMAO
Everyone,
Fitzgerald reminds me of the movie Ballistic, where Lucy Lui plays an agent and her baby is killed by the head of an intelligence agency. She stood outside of the agency and said “turn him over.” This is what Fitzgerald is doing to Cheney. Turn him over!!!!!!
OT: Out of touch and skimming through to try and catch up.
Regarding the sleeze from NYT, Matthews, Russert et al. How about we try and set the tabloids on them and do a mass writing campaign to Globe, National Enlquirer, etc., and suggest that they look into the backgrounds and report on these people. Their tabloids would fly off the market stands and it may be the only way to hit back.
But Barbara Long,
you forgot my favorite part of the scenario -
(bullhorned voice)
“Mr. Cheney, Put Down The Chimp and Slowly Back away !”
Given that Bush’s trust rating with the American public now stands at 24%… I don’t think the U.S. public will buy whatever grudging admissions Shrubbie made last night as an “apology.” Way the hell too little, way the hell too late.
Why do I have a pink bar on my post #158?
actually, we should have taken from the Master -
‘Hastert arrived smelling of twinkies, hai-karate and danger’
I watched the GeeW Pathetic Presser last night. Apart from the lame, insincere “bring ‘em on” mea culpa lament, his remarks were simply more of the same tired old shit – the shining democracy example that Iraq will be in the region, ‘cuz democracy and freedom jus’ ain’t fer us white folks, blah, blah, blah…we’re gonna WIN over there, as long as it takes agin them terrists…
Mr. Bush, you are a War Criminal who should be in flip-flops and chains over an orange jumpsuit.
If you have a pink bar it means you’re super-duper special!!
At least, that’s what I like to think LOL
To incontext @49:
Agreed. Whoever approved her $1 million advance should be fired. Talk about a niche market: dyke Republicans. It’s even tinier than Log Cabin Republicans.
jinny– ’tis dusty rose and savor it for it shall disappear all too soon. it’s a new thingie that ids your most recent post– it’ll fade to grey shortly.
Look on the bright side, may this will give members some down time to read CTG!
Re: Shrub’s “apology”:
The thing I’d like to know is, if Bush is so sorry about Aboo Gar-ebb (his words), how come no one has asked about the secret torture prisons in Europe, or the ongoing abuses at Guantanamo?
Or did he just mean, the thing he regrets about Aboo Gar-ebb is that the evidence came out??? Much more likely.
Oscarsmom #164 – Thank you for your kind words! I just wondered whether this is the new “moderation”.
on the other hand: I am sure Mary Cheney’s Dad is thinking nice thoughts about that nice publishing company that was so sweet to his daughter — who said lobbying was cheap?
The Future Mrs FeinGORE (46)
The condensed Bush contrition: Regrets? I’ve had a few…
Egrets? I’ve shot a few. Down Texas way.
New thread– pretty picture and Santorum outed!
My husband just sent me this:
“Two papers in Science today give two different practical methods for making light bend around an object and keep going exactly the same direction–actually making the object invisible. They also say the design can work on all colors of light at once. There would be a little bit of “haze” that can’t be avoided due to physical laws (a small amount of light would be absorbed rather than bent), but other than that the object would truly become invisible.
The author of one (a Brit) says “I have reason to believe the military is already working on it.”"
I read about it — an invisibility cloak!
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/…..fer=canada
*ilson46201 #170
Maybe Halliburton could open a book division. They could then sell Mary Cheney’s book at a million dollars a pop. Who would buy such crap you ask? The US government, of course, in a no bid contract.
Do you think we could send one to G-Dub so we wouldn’t have to look at his smirky smug mug anymore??
Crooks & Liars has a couple more videos/pics about Bush’s “apology” last night. Check them out, they are hilarious.
http://www.crooksandliars.com
Do you think we could send one to G-Dub so we wouldn’t have to look at his smirky smug mug anymore??
A one way ticket to Abu Ghraib . . .
Why on earth anyone is prepared to believe anything the Boy King says is beyond me.
I missed the speacher last nite, but i’ve heard it bordered on invasion-of-the-bodysnatcher weird. CHS… this post is a work of art. take the next 20 minutes off.
Dad, I really regret wrecking the car. Driving that fast irresponsible. I
should have been more sophisticated in my thinking, considered the
consequences. But it was so exciting to be at the wheel of a great big
machine like the Pentagon x400. It was like I was in a movie. Dick, Rummy,
and the Wolf kept telling me to “let it out, let’s see what it will do.” and
they wouldn’t shut up. Yes, I know I was the one driving and that row of
soldiers are now the ones who have to live with the results. Honestly, I
thought it would handle better than that; at least that’s what Rummy told
me.
Those newspaper articles didn’t help much did they? Those reporters never
mention the good news that only 5 died and about a dozen were crippled. What
about all the others who only got banged up? See, they are all against me.
I guess you will ground me now. its not fair that Dick and Rummy get away
with it. They told me what to do. They were in the car too. Wolf moved away
when the papers got too bad. Lucky.
Yes I know I was the one picked to drive. My name is on the police
report…..
Its just not fair.
Ed at 95
I don’t know who this Ty Cobb guy is ( I thought Ty Cobb was a baseball player???)
But he clearly has not kept up with the reading in this case.
Fitz has succesfully dodged most if not all of the greymail problem.
Methinks either Mr. Cobb was speaking w/o knowledge or he was being a bit mendacious
Angie at 118
That made me laugh out loud.
I’m late to this post, so I may go to the next one and go off topic, but it belongs here.
Bush said again, in this presser with Blair, that IT’S UP TO THE GENERALS TO DECIDE WHEN WE PULL OUT OF IRAQ.
I think it’s time to call Bush out on this. “Are you saying that the buck stops with the generals, Mr. President?”
Why won’t somebody ask him this question?
He’s not sorry he said it (takes blame himself). He is sorry that other misinterpreted it (shifts blame to others).
He does accept blame for not speaking clearly. (convenient dodge)
Sorry-ass behavior
I know this is being EPU’d, but someone snapped a pic of the look on W’s face after his so-called apology. Like a brat who thinks he’s gotten away with telling a whopper.
GO to C and L and look at the pic of Bush smiling during this whole thing. Fucking evil.
Codpiece isn’t sorry he’s responsible for so many hundreds of American deaths and thousands of American injuries. Nor is he sorry about the thousands of innocent Iraqis who’ve died or been injured in his war of convenience. This is a man who, faced with watching his popularity — and power — go spinning down the toilet, is just saying the words we want to hear. But he never makes mistakes, so he can’t be truly regretful for anything he does.
Asshole.
I agree the admission was totally scripted. They never stop playing games.
Those shots you heard were the sound of civil liberties blowing their brains out over the Hayden confirmation.