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FITZ!!

Yeah, and they want to censure Jimmy Carter too. Fucktards.

They’re going to get increasingly deranged as they read the writing on the wall. Take it as a sign of our side prevailing.

Now, if only the NYT wouldn’t play along. Maybe, for balance, they can get Judy Judy Judy to write about her sexual escapades with neo-con criminals. She can call the series “The True Price of Access,” and she can pose a la Marilyn Monroe over a sidewalk grate.

You would think that NYT readers would want something a bit more substantial with their morning latte. The fact that the Times started it all again makes one wonder.

Atrios begins the new honor roll of wedded bliss. Take a lookey.

I would imagine that there are a whole host of happy and not so happy marriages that we can write about and spread the meme.

Christy -

One small correction: everyone else get’s gets private, behind your back speculation.

How many of you are still not able to see the pictures? I haven’t tried refreshing the comments this morning, but was encountering problems with refreshing them yesterday sometime after it appeared that everything was back to normal.

One more question: what method of page encoding are you using? In the preview section, I see ‘ instead of an apostrophe.

Live and Direct, with Rita Broder.

Grow the fuck up and act like adults who deal with real issues instead of a bunch of panty sniffing losers who can’t get a date for the dance.

Christy, don’t hold back now - tell us how you really feel! :-)

Thanks, Stephen. I caught it on my last read through — but only after I posted it. Man, copyediting is tough when you haven’t had enough coffee. ;-)

I have a theory about the Clenis panty sniffing…certainly, this is part and parcel of a bigger effort to swiftboat the rise of Hillary, but this is a two-fer effort.

These guys write about the Clenis whenever they suffer writer’s block. It’s their favorite topic next to writing about evil swamp-dwelling bloggers. Whenever they can’t be bothered with research or don’t have the initiative to write something fresh, they go to the last written article about the Clenis and they add their own spin.

Watch, any time now, that slacker Howie Kurtz will do the same thing. He wrote about blogs twice last month; if the pattern holds out, he’ll write about the Clenis twice in the next month because he’s tapped out and he’s already drunk from the fever-swamp well.

Really, they are quite stupid. They don’t get Colbert, they can’t write anything without prompts, and they think we won’t notice. Brainless dweebs.

“full-on, lemon yellow pantsuit hyperventilation”
LOL, Christy……..Sink me!

Let the smut times roll… The Rethuglicans must be just sitting back and smirking.

Add in the one man, one woman marriage amendment being pushed to a voted on by the serial adulterers in the Rethuglican Rubber Stamp Congress and the “fair game” is almost complete.

Except of course for the sanctimonious peckersniffery of the MSM.

Christy @ 10,

I don’t know if the copyediting is easier or harder when you know you’ve got a couple or twenty proofreaders (working in shifts, who’ve all had their coffee) just waiting to help once you put it out there. ;-)

I wish I had a subscription to the NYT- so that I could cancel it. And Christy you were great When I first started reading you but you’ve gotten even better and better.

Linda Tripp? Well there goes breakfast.

It would be one thing if it were a bi-partisan panty-sniffing free-for-all. But MSM’s obsession with shining the spot-light on Dems, while showing reluctance to lift an investigative finger to the keyboard when it comes to Repubs peccadillos (HookerGate notwithstanding) is pathetic and transparent.

Good morning,

This paragraph, to me, just about sums it up … I will use it during discussions with my ‘red-state’ friends (fox watchers all) … I’ll probably add something about social security, the debt, prescription drugs and health care, but you did a wonderful job laying it out for us. Keep up the good work. We really appreciate and enjoy the work of FDL.

Except for one thing: who the hell cares? I mean really, who cares? Except for the inside, gossip queens of the Beltway, how exactly does this put gas in someone’s tank, keep their kid safe on the battlefield, stop their job from being downsized, or help them pay the balloon payment on their already-ballooning mortgage? What in the hell are these people doing calling this crap “reporting?”

Every time someone mentions Linda Tripp, I always thing of John Goodman on SNL. I don’t really remember what the real Tripp looks like (and I don’t want to), only Goodman as Tripp.

Hilde,

The line should have read “we are on at the same TIME” not team. Of course we are on the same team.

As an eastcoaster, I usually am off to bed just as the discussions start to get good and end up having to catch up the next morning.

like today.

Of course nobody needs to remember what Linda Tripp looked like b/c she has had so much plastic surgery you’d think she was oin the witness protection program.

Not sure my stomach was ready for the notion of panty-sniffing so early in the day…may I just say, “Eww?”

It’s good to know, isn’t it, that with all the issues that confront us, we are being set up to make decisions about at least one possible presidential candidate on the basis of the state of her marriage and the Richter scale of her marital sex life. Not only is that insulting to her, but it’s insulting to all of us, who really should expect - and get - more from the media than something that appears to be a preview of a new reality show for the 2008 campaign, “So, You Think You Can F*ck?”

If I were Hillary, I would tackle this head-on. I’d throw a few lines out the next time I was in front of a camera or microphone, and as perkily and breathlessly as possible say something along the lines of: “Gosh, I’m so excited that the NYT has decided that the sex lives of potential presidential candidates should be out there for the people to consider. I, for one, can’t wait to find out what’s going on in John McCain’s bedroom, and of course, we’re all wondering about the details on Bill Frist. And if Newt or Rudy decide to run, well those may be the best stories of all (wink,wink) given the multiple marriages and the divorces.”

By the way - last evening on the news, they were doing a story on immigration, and highlighted a recent campaign where constituents sent bricks to their senators and representatives as a message to build a wall at the border. I forget which legislator was interviewed, but he said something along the lines of, “It can’t help but get your attention when someone takes the time and trouble and goes to the expense of sending something like this.” Another indication that the rubber stamp and book projects likely did make quite an impression.

twolf1 (18)–

Tripp looks a lot like John Goodman, only not as handsome.

This kind of reporting (sic) began with the Fords, when they were asked about their sleeping arrangements at the White House. Then, it was upped in temperature with the Carters, who were asked the same thing, and also about their sleepingwear. It’s only because Bill Clinton had the poor judgment to mess around with someone as dipsy as Lewinsky in the White House, instead of in some other more private location, and that Starr made his “privates” public as a result, that the press feels it has the right to ask about such intimate things.

All this nonsense just reveals the basic hypocrisy underlying American culture: we are still basically Puritanical where sex is concerned, but Americans love to peek through the keyhole, anyway, because Americans are so perverse in their sexual immaturity. If it’s “forbidden,” then it’s more exciting, and if it’s “private(s),” it’s more sensational to make it public, especially with such a good looking couple as the Clintons.

So, Mr. Keller and the Times, “bring it on” and know that “turn about is fair play.” Time to just have a thorough cleaning out of the sexual psyche of the American public by examining the sexual proclivities,(in)activities of all politicians and journalists, and then get back to the business of looking after the affairs of State, instead. A sexual “purge,” if you will.

You know, David Broder is old. And I mean a “Bob Dole” kind of old - if you get my drift. But Davy doesn’t have a power-mad wife who needs a Viagra enhanced love life. His wife’s probably like Ol’ 60 Grit.

But a guy can drool over others, can’t he? Especially an old guy?

really unfair but i can play: when do you think poppy stopped tapping babs’ sweet ass? 1969? has viagra reinvigorated their sex life? there’s a few more miles in them bones so get those legs in the air girl!

the doles anyone?

I say let them talk long and loud about the Clinton’s sex life. That keeps them busy and distracted from doing damage to any future democratic candidates that may arise (read Gore and Fiengold). I don’t want Hillary to be the candidate anyway.

Hey, I can sniff panties with the best of ‘em!

re RevDeb, who links at (6):

Well, Atrios’s first riposte is a thing of beauty. I hope he goes on to deal with the Republican politicians once he’s finished with the press.

This is unfair of me, b/c I am no google monkey Net research is not my talent, but might it be fun to pick a handful of really annoying Republican icons and pull together a little research–just the stuff already in the public record, and flog a few stories?

Let them know how much fun it’s gonna be for them if they continue down this road?

It only works if it is done quickly. we are an army of researchers, and the blogs are a thousand points of light (to borrow a phrase) and we could shine a thousand little spotlights on stories that maybe didn’t get a comprehensive review.

Let a powerful republican or two (maybe a presdential hopeful, maybe a key legislative leader) know what it feels like?

Then maybe THEY will clamp down on the Rovian machine? A little divide and conquor is always nice with the morning coffee?

How often has the inside-the-Beltway conventional wisdom been right?

Zero times, that’s how often.

With that in mind, I say let them bring back the Clenis. Because it will make people think about the Clinton Administration, which is looking more and more like a Golden Age of peace, prosperity, and enlightened governance.

If it also reminds people that the MSM is good for absolutely nothing except pantysniffing and getting everything wrong, well… that’s a bonus, dontcha think?

Margaret,
I really date it to Gary Hart. The press was dancing all around the story of his fillandering, but not actually reporting it when he did something crazy.

He basically dared them to follow him 24/7 and said they would never catch him, but if they did they could print it.

Then they pound the “Monkey Business” photos, and all hell broke loose.

OT– Huge problems with Amtrak on NE corridor. Power outage. What a country we have…A badly neglected mass transit system that the oil lobby works against. Thousands stranded just before a holiday weekend.

“Panty sniffing losers”…gotta use that one.
It’s open season on the republicrooks’ marriages.
Anyone poked around Patrick Healy’s private life?
Happy hunting everyone.

Any updates on Kobe?

When you add that bizarre, Harlequin Romance-meets-Tiger Beat article about Frist from WaPo, the press’s disgusting pattern really becomes clear. They intend to smear the potential Democratic candidates for president while lionizing any and all repugs who might run. McCain was already like a rock star to the press, and now they’re likening Frist to a superhero drenched in ape-sweat and gorilla testosterone.

It’s a very weird and disheartening spectacle, one that will undoubtedly only get weirder and more disheartening as 2008 approaches.

This sounds like a debate that dateless college students might have after a couple six-packs late on a Saturday night: would you rather be poor and have great sex or be rich and have no sex?

The republicans know - deep down, in their guts, no doubt about it - they know that money is going to be on a lot of people’s minds, and not in a good way. The Safavian trial is starting, the Abramoff mess is getting more and more visible, the money spent for Iraq is getting harder to ignore, the immigration fence ain’t gonna be cheap, and did I mention Ney, Hastert, and Abramoff?

It’s kind of hard to see how this pivot to sex will go down with the religious right wing. After all, of the ten commandments, sex gets one (no adultery) and theft of property gets two or three depending on how you number your commandments (do not steal, and do not covet your neighbor’s house/your neighbor’s stuff).

Still, I can see where the Republicans would rather everyone just talk about sex - preferably democratic sex. “Pay no attention to the men behind the curtain, stuffing money into their pants.”

looseheadprop:

hold that thought. more on that later. . .

Casey,
I get your point, but voter cynicism is not our friend for the midterms.

We need to motivate our base to come out and vote in force. That only happens if they see this as
1) important and inspirational
2)something they have the power to change

If they get distracted by the Dems are corrupt (william Jefferson) too, and Dems are sluts, and it’s not us, it’s everybody; then the voter just gets disgusted with the whole thing and shuts down.

that’s why this tactic must be stopped. this is meant to suppress voter turn out.

This election cycle, frankly all election cycles, high voter turnout is our friend.

OT- but I just couldn’t resist:

They seek him here
They seek him there
Those Bushies week him everywhere
Is he in heaven?
Is he in hell?
That damned elusive OBL

Gotta love the Scarlet P.

Peterr,
I ‘m with you brother.

Pach,

I have a very low tolerance for unsatisfied curiosity. I can be expected to climb the walls if left hanging with an intrigueing clue like that (probably why i got into investigating crimes?)

I disagree. Let’s get it all out in the open. I want a scratch and sniff of Hillary’s panties right there on page one.

It’s definitely the launch of an all-out Dem Bashing Media Fest. I suggested on the Times new blog [http://empirezone.blogs.nytimes.com] that perhaps the various members of the media were coordinating the attack, and my comment was deleted 4 times. Interesting…

Today, Patrick Healy writes about Jeanine Pirro, and curiously, he omits mention of HER marriage, which makes the Clintons look like Ozzie & Harriet. [Yes, I’m that old]. There’s a lot of interesting material there, including her husband’s fathering a daughter [then refusing to support her] while married to Jeannine, plus her escapades while Al was in jail.

But it’s not the Clintons, so I’m sure none of this will come up.

A heartfelt Austin Powers “Yeah Baby !!”

Oh, oy … of course I meant they Seek him everywhere!
Sorry.

Court filing: Cheney may be witness in Libby trial

damned html tags…Libby Case Story Link

Here’ a take on another New York politician:

Rudy’s dirty laundry

And then there is Giuliani’s turbulent personal life, which for years was fodder for the New York City tabloids. Giuliani’s estrangement from his second wife — Donna Hanover — and public relationship with Judith Nathan (his current wife) played out in the newspapers. Giuliani, who is nothing if not media savvy, is well aware that a presidential bid would lead to a re-airing of this dirty laundry for all the country to see.

Pach, re looseheadprop @40 -

Note the name, Pach - methinkgs it’s not “loose head” for no reason. Don’t be teasin’ . . . and he ain’t the only one who’s curious.

Sink Me !

excellent Citizen Sue !

Christy - wow - a wonderful, take no prisoners post. we’re certain to get a visit from ATF with all those grenades - go Mountaineer, go !

Tommy Yum @ 4

that sidewalk grate would be hard on Judy’s knees. then again, they’re used to it.

Interesting that 3 of the rethugs frequently mentioned as prezidential contenders all have been divorced– McCain, Allen and Giuliani. Personal failure, lack of commitment, philandering, difficulty with their cherished and highly touted family values? Hmmm.

Remember in the Sean Connery/Kevin Costner version of the Untouchable’s?
Sean Connery’s character is deciding whether or not to join Elliot Ness’s investgation. He asks Ness “what are you willing to do?” And goes on to day something along the lines of “they slap you, you punch them. They come at you with a knife, you go after them with a gun”

O have worked in organized crime investigation and prosecution. That is how it works with these kinds of criminals.

They do something to you side you have to come right back at them, just a tech harder than they came at you. And usually, like the cowardly bullies they are, after a round or two like that, they back down.

I think the same is true with the Rovian swiftboating. Kerry tried to rise above it all and ignore it, etc. And it killed him.

Back to our hero. Everytime Team Irving tries to stick to the tall man, the tall man makes him pay a price for it, that makes the effort not cost effective.

And the return blow is swift and sharp.

For a guy is goes to such lengths to observe scrupulous politcal neutrality, I think he is the political strategist we will see in a long time.

With a press conference since October. With no interviews, no leaks and no spin, Fitz has managed to counter every single attempt by Team Irving to change the public perception of this case.

Make no mistake, if public sentiment ever shifted against Pat, he would be Saturday Night Massacred in a heartbeat.

So, he has had to do his case, and counter wave after wave of attempts a media manipulation.

I think we would do well to study his methods and copy them as best we can.

Swift, sharp and very targeted. Not a huge effort each time, but a surgical effort.

The only legitimate issue here is the fact that Bill Clinton once held the office of President and would be returning to the White House, where it is conceivable he would have some influence on how our country is governed.

The rest of it is just plain insulting to women. Men don’t get this treatment. Hilary, you can’t be President until you prove to us that you aren’t a women. Got that?!

This must be the morning for typos. Correcting my ” pushed to a voted on by ” in 13, should be “pushed to vote by”…blame the morning pre-commute frenzy and distracted self-editing.

Long past time to push back hard against this merde. With an organized plan of attack that extends beyond our conversation in the blogosphere. A new Roots project?

Imagine if we’d been around when Newt was leading the fray against Clinton. Mr. Multi-married philanderer pointing fingers.

We need to throw down our gauntlet in specific terms so that the sleaze merchants know we will fight back…and hit ‘em where it hurts, in the wallet. Boycott Red McComb’s Clear Channel advertisers, anyone? A push-back against the one man-one woman amendment…how come George Allen and John McCain and Guiliani […and all the other Rethuglicans] get two or more?

Mock ‘em, sock ‘em. The ideas are legion. ’bout time we organize and implement ‘em.

looseheadprop 52 — exactly!

“That’s the Chicago way.”

Homework everyone: this weekend, The Untouchables. Nobody says it better than Sean.

Open tag in 46 mucks up Safari.

Thanks

Peterr,
A loosheadprop is a rugby position. The LHP wears the #1 jersey, and is on the left side of the hooker wearing the #2 jersey. The tighthead prop wears #3.

When the front rows of the scrum come together, everyone puts their head to left. So the left most person has their head “loose” or outside the scrum. “props” bind onto and hold up the hooker between them, so that the hooker can have the feet free to strike or “hook” the ball back into the rest of the scrum.

And I am a she. During the late 80’s and early 90’s women’s rugby was the fastest growing segment of the sport in the US.

In fact, the very first US rugby referee ever invited to ref at world cup was a wonderful woman, and environmental lawyer from Florida named Laurel Lockett. She was a personal hero of mine and a big influence on me when took up the whistle.

At last, the f-word from a disgusted Redd who can stand it no more! *swoon*

Everybody, keep WRITING these bastards. Don’t let them get away with a single WORD of this utter, total bullshit anymore, EVER.

Prairie Sunshine 54 (and lhp, Pach, et al.),

Hear, hear! Let them know they can’t crawl back into their perverted pantysniffing little gutter without pushback, not this time. We have serious issues to talk about in this country, and the Bill and Hil Show is not one of them.

lhp - I never see video of Fitz without hearing Costner’s Ness in my head

“Come On Men, Let’s Do Some Good ! “

how did this ever get through the moderation?

“really unfair but i can play: when do you think poppy stopped tapping babs sweet ass?”

my minds eye has gone blind.

look in #44 for open tag

looseheadprop & Pachacutec:

Wow, can you imagine? A virtual ARMY of oppo researchers!
Now we’re talking.

While we’re talking about costner, maybe Gore’s film should have been called Waterworld 2

This stuff does a disservice to John Prine and Iris Dement in their tune “in spite of ourselves.” Read the lyrics; it’s fun and funny.
-Sofistic

http://www.cowboylyrics.com/ly.....10897.html

looseheadprop…

…They pull a knife, you pull a gun. They put one of yours in the hospital, you put one of theirs in the morgue. It’s the Chicago way…

I just loved that part of the movie (and Sean Connery said it so well.) It’s such a perfect metaphor for so many areas of politics and life :)

You meant “the Clintons’ marriage”, plural, right?

Thanks for the melody, Sofistic!

looseheadprop– I was an avid rugby fan in college! What a great sport.

Prayers for Kobe. Friends just had a 12 year old black poodle with torsion. It is important to monitor cardiac function by ekg after surgery for at least 72 hours. I hope Kobe does as well as my friends poodle.

LHP, my apologies on the gender error, and thanks for the rugby lesson.

Of course, you being a rubgy player makes my friendly warning to Pach even more critical. Of all the rugby guys I’ve met (and they’ve all been guys), I’ve never met one that liked being strung along . . . about anything.

:-)

(Me, I’m more a soccer guy - less blood than rugby! And the World Cup is less than a month off!!!)

One last question: did Elliot Ness play rugby? Kinda sounds that way from your post @ 52.

What ALWAYS gets me about this is the fact that the wingnuts own family closets are filled with sexual skeletons. But somehow, once they jump on the now I am “saved” bandwagon, they cannot be touched. It is just so unfair to hold a god-fearing x-tian accountable for his pre-Christian life! And the fucking press just colludes and colludes with this crap (& if they were to cover the pecadillos of wingnuts, they would be accused of being unforgiving and goddess-forbid - angry lefties!). Eg, The hands off of covering the history and consequences of W’s addiction problems (which seem as though they may have been inherited by his kids). Don’t matter because he is a Christian!

OT-
The Note has a bunch of shit on Plamegate.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics.....?id=156238

I’m watching all of this public exposure of the sex lives of the famous and political(Democrats) and pulling my wrinkly little red pud. Looking forward to more revelations too. It is just what turns me on.

-Ken Starr

Peterr– PJF was a rugger:
>>>>>>>>>
A solidly built former rugby player who enjoyed getting muddy and bloody well into his twenties, Fitzgerald is nothing but confident in his own skin. Just as he does not fear bin Laden, he seems to fret little that he is now tangling simultaneously with the Bush White House and the New York Times, two of the nation’s most powerful and privileged institutions.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....ge=printer

Yeah, but they really ARE a bunch of panty sniffing losers. Hence, the problem.

timewarp @71,

It’s not Christian vs. non-Christian here. After all, Clinton is one of the “saved” but they would give him the “Don’t matter because he is a Christian!” pass or the “gotta forgive and move on” pass. (Neither of which are a legitimate understanding of salvation or forgiveness, by my theological lights, but that’s another story . . .)

This is the “Sex-is-evil” Christians vs. the “greed-and-graft-are-evil” folks (Christian and otherwise). Rove, Bush, and Associates are betting that there are more of the former than the latter who are willing to get out and vote.

I think all it would take is to focus on one possible candidate, do as much research as possible, and then start dropping it into as many blogs as possible. Make an example of someone, and I’m pretty sure pressure would be brought to bear to go “hands-off” on the subject of a potential candidate’s marriage or sex life.

angie @ 74 - So was Mark Bingham on Flight 93.

Props to the props, loosehead or otherwise, and (if I got LHP’s lesson right above) to the hookers between them!

Oh, wait a minute . . .

Panty sniffer Santorum sends the Capitol Police to his PA home to sniff around; no kidding, your tax dollars at work!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
PENN HILLS, Pa. — On Wednesday, Capitol Police agent dispatched from Washington spent nearly 90 minutes doing a security check on Sen. Rick Santorum’s Penn Hill’s house.

“Why would he call Capitol Police when we have Penn Hills police right here? If he’s a resident of Penn Hills, why didn’t he call the Penn Hills police? And for his kids to be in danger? That’s a big joke because his kids are never in this house,” Santorum critic Erin Vecchio said.

http://www.thepittsburghchanne.....etail.html

Forget the “Culture of Corruption”

Let’s spread the word. The Repukes are engaged in a Pattern of Perversion

I’ve put an post up (163) in the CtG Action thread that discusses the goals of the CtG event, in part in reply to some comments that it was an ineffective event. Folks interested in the Roots Project might want to read it, because it had goals that some future RP’s events will share.

Re: Santorum’s house, I saw that yesterday and the neighbors were griping because nobody’s ever there and the lawn isn’t mowed, the grass is 8-10 inches high. Big emergency.

Twolf #19, Ernest Borgnine in Drag

As far as the Repug sex lives go, it seems the pedophile scandals didn’t go very far, esp the one, ooh can’t remember, but he was talking to the FBI on My Space and had not had a background check. DHS, that’s were he was. As far as the Xtians go, I think that one should just make them STFU. I read that Broder piece this morning and just wanted to pour hot coffee right on him.

Dadhusker 83 - so kind of like a fat cryptkeeper? ;)

George Washington will come back and kick all of their asses!

I have an idea… how about every time a “journalist” does one of these stories, thousands of people send them a pair of panties to sniff, “because you’re so interested…”.

I remember way back, when Clinton started his bid for presidency, Rush Limbaugh started in on the Clintons. Prior to the Clintons, Limbaugh had a so-so program that dealt with the injustices of day. Once, Clinton made it known about running, Limbaugh started non-stop bashing, both Bill and Hillary.

The point here is Limbaugh made it “big” on Clinton bashing. For whatever reason, people like LImbaugh and papers like the Times and Post, have made it their sworn duty to dissect and publish every aspect of the Clinton life.

And why, because there are millions of people who want to know this stuff. The Enquirer is a classic example of the number of people who want every aspect on well known people.

One can only hope the media finds itself and starts reporting on what is happening in and to this country. One can hope that they leave the Enquirer crap to the Enquirer, of course, I hope to win the lottery and that ain’t gonna happen either.

Peterr 76 - “they” don’t consider Clinton as Christian any more than they acknowlege Jimmy Carter’s faith. They have succeded in convincing the media and perhaps even a majority of the population (even those who are not Christians) that right-wing literalist Christianism is “real” Christianity and anyone who offers a different view is just “poser.”

This has been an effort that has gone on for almost a century and has been very successful in the last 20 years. So successful that “liberal” or “progressive” Christians are often on the defensive being forced to qualify themselves with statements like “I am not a ‘fundamentalist’ but I am a also Christian.” No one in the media ever attacks (even via some kind of progressive pundit) the legitimacy of the wingnuts “version” of Christianity (ironically, it wouldn’t be a Christian thing to do!).

Its like that guy (spacing out his name) who was caught in a motel with prostitutes in the 80’s. All he had to do was “repent” and he went on his merry way as a minister. That sort of show never works for non-fundies (I am also thinking of Cunningham’s recent crocodile tears of regret.) We think it is lame, but the fundies eat it up. And for some reason, the press just gives these people a free pass when the re-emerge into public life - rehabilitated. Another character who comes to mind is Charles Colsen.

jayackroyd @81 - I posted this above at #22; thought it was timely, given the CtG project:

By the way - last evening on the news, they were doing a story on immigration, and highlighted a recent campaign where constituents sent bricks to their senators and representatives as a message to build a wall at the border. I forget which legislator was interviewed, but he said something along the lines of, “It can’t help but get your attention when someone takes the time and trouble and goes to the expense of sending something like this.” Another indication that the rubber stamp and book projects likely did make quite an impression.

Steve Kelso,

I think that is a keeper. Maybe we should make the NYT the first recipient.

-GSD

timewarp @ 89,

It was Jerry Fallwell, that cockroach. If you play his tearful “repentance” speech, blubbering “I have sinned against you, my Lord!” it’ll make the Duke Cunningham pity party seem positively understated.

Is this the fornigate thread?

sit on the William Jefferson thing since last July. I think they were saving it. Ney gets hit, they have a frozen Jefferson to match. The Globe comes out with an article about the Bush marriage, the NYT hits front page the next day about Hillary. Would be nice to know how long ago the 50 friends were interviewed.

It was Jimmy Swaggart. “I have sinned against you”.”

-GSD

FITZ?!?

OT, with apologies, but don’t have time enuf to check to see if you’ve already covered this:

Our local newspaper, Akron Beacon Journal (OH) had the following on lower left FRONT PAGE today, 5/25/06 — no attribution to source other than what’s within article text. Has anyone at FDL seen the filing referred to in the article? (I wondered if this referred to something previous to Wed. 5/24, or if this is indeed new!) More details? Anyone???

“Vice President Dick Cheney could be called to testify in the pergury case against his former chief of staff, I. Lewis ‘Scooter’ Libby, a special prosecutor said in a court filing Wednesday.
“Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald said Cheney’s ’state of mind’ is ‘directly relevant’ to whether Libby lied to FBI agents and a federal grand jury about how he learned about CIA officer Valerie Plame’s identity and what he subsequently told reporters.”

Tommy Yum 92 - his name being so repulsive that I couldn’t muster it up. And self-pity is indeed the hallmark of these types. “False” Christians like Clinton are expected to pay and pay and pay on earth for their “sins” (since they are going straight to hell anyway, why give them a break?) but they, because they are “saved” get a free pass for everything.

for all u comment refreshers - there’s a new thread

So, Bill Keller cheated on his wife, and knocked up the girlfriend of a Pink Floyd guitarist — then dumped his wife, and married the rocker chick.

http://atrios.blogspot.com/200.....9070708542

I wonder if they do it on his desk at the New Cervix Times — or if Bill Keller is now plowing greener pastures?

Does David Broder like to play poker? Ever been in a game at the Watergate? Hung out with Dusty Foggo or Porter Goss or Mitchell Wade or Beltway entertainment professionals? Or done anything else we deserve to know?

Just askin’ . . .

ahem. ADHD kids do grow up. I meant lower RIGHT corner of the page ;-)

timewarp @79, you’re thinking of Jimmy Swaggart, who actually did indeed mostly disappear from the rightwing Christian world.

But you’re right about this: “This has been an effort that has gone on for almost a century and has been very successful in the last 20 years. So successful that ‘liberal’ or ‘progressive’ Christians are often on the defensive being forced to qualify themselves with statements like ‘I am not a ‘fundamentalist’ but I am a also Christian.’”

It’s been so successful, that at times I’ve felt pushed to qualify my description about myself as a Christian here at FDL.

zennurse @84, do you really want me to STFU?

Jay, great response, but not really needed, the troll was a troll and politeness wasn’t helpful.

You have support from the people who matter, the staff members who were looking for you that day and and the Roots Project, which you have very strategically and effectively advertised to our target audience. I linked above or at the end of the last thread that the video is up at AlterNet, and it will spread. That is all due to you guys who took the time and the energy to make this happen in our names. Ignore the naysayers. His big deal was to donate to Ned. He wasn’t here two months ago when we raised something like $10K in a few days, was he? On his blog, he linked to that dumb cartoon and said it summed up his political philosophy perfectly. No more to see here, move on.

Aargh GSD - you are right - but they are BOTH cockroaches! Didn’t Jerry Falwell play a big role in this by taking over his ministry for a time until Swaggart had become cleansed in the eyes of “his lord?”

Tommy, time and GSD, I think it was Bakker.

oh, Christy! Need, need, needing bad your fab expert explication of the newest Fitz docs….

Waiting here, as ever, with my good friend, the lovely Braided Beth….

If your take is here when I wake, well, the world will surely be a bit sweeter!

Jimmy Swaggart Ministries are still on the map.

Bakker was yet another sexual scandal!

Kos says “You know what I’d love to see? The marriage of every b.s. pundit and journalist who brings this crap up scrutinized and aired publicly. Let’s see how many glass houses exist in DC.”

Josh Marshall has set an example with his TPMuckracker blog exposing the DC corruption racket.

Time now for FDL bloggers who would like to get into investigative journalism to dig up the dirt on the marriages and sex lives of the DC media elite. How about exposing Russert, Hannity, John Gibson, Roger Ailes, Rupert Murdoch, Joe Klein, et al.

The article on the Clintons says more about the NY Times than it does about the Clintons. You have to conflate the appearance of this article with the fact that the Gray Lady is in dire straits and needs more than the journalistic version of Viagra to keep the ship afloat. No, the Times is not going broke, but earnings have been down, and the stock has the heebie-jeebies, and Pinch has been feeling pressure from the Board and stockholders.

As much as anything else, the Clinton article, with one lead reporter and as many as 50 others on the story, is probably part of an attempt on the Times part to reinvent itself…into what, Lord knows. But whatever it is, it is a departure from the Times journalistic tradition of reporting politics as politics, and veering into politics as an extension of the eternal dance between males and females.

Even while veering in the direction of tabloid journalism, however, the Times cannot transcend its own prissiness, and treats marital relations with requisite coyness, as if whispering under a fluttering fan. Instead of getting hot revelations we get cold statistics, like the y number of weekends the Clintons spent together in the last x months. All we lack is a multi-colored graph.

The Times has finally realized that sex can be profitable, but it still doesn’t know how to be sexy.

Nice little email just sent to Broder. heh heh

With all due respect:

We already know David Broder is a dod