Comments on: Return of the Heathers http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:29:16 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: FuzzFlash http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/#comment-115668 FuzzFlash Wed, 24 May 2006 00:29:35 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/#comment-115668 <p>Of course rags like the NYT are haemorrhaging readers/market share/influence. People like us get what we want from the Times, instsantly and for free from the quality blogosphere. Our numbers are surging. This is why they feel compelled to trawl downmarket like some kind of tawdry Survivor Broadsheet. </p> <p>Come 2020, the NYT will be a WebZine indistinguishable from Citizen Rupert’s National Enquirer. Archivists will discover the wit and wisdom of former stenographer,Judith Miller, who will seem a veritable gentlewoman of letters compared to dross that will daily be “delivered”.</p> Of course rags like the NYT are haemorrhaging readers/market share/influence. People like us get what we want from the Times, instsantly and for free from the quality blogosphere. Our numbers are surging. This is why they feel compelled to trawl downmarket like some kind of tawdry Survivor Broadsheet.

Come 2020, the NYT will be a WebZine indistinguishable from Citizen Rupert’s National Enquirer. Archivists will discover the wit and wisdom of former stenographer,Judith Miller, who will seem a veritable gentlewoman of letters compared to dross that will daily be “delivered”.

]]> By: ironranger http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/#comment-115662 ironranger Wed, 24 May 2006 00:26:44 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/#comment-115662 <p>Oh boy, the gloves are off now. If they want to play national enquirer, this is going to get very interesting. I don’t think blogland is going to put up with it and a lot of slimy stuff is bound to be uncovered. I wonder if the smear agents are prepared for that. It smells of desperation to me.<br /> My brother just told me that a son of a friend is now in Iraq after Afghanistan. They need food…he has lost 17# & says to send tuna packed in water. A caller to Randi Rhodes today (her husband is serving) talked about the lack of food. My nephew leaves for basic training (Marines) this week & now we have to worry if he gets sent to the middle east not only about the danger but also malnutrion or starving? And to think that these people who get read in major media outlets could be writing about this instead of nonsense. Damn fine americans, aren’t they?</p> Oh boy, the gloves are off now. If they want to play national enquirer, this is going to get very interesting. I don’t think blogland is going to put up with it and a lot of slimy stuff is bound to be uncovered. I wonder if the smear agents are prepared for that. It smells of desperation to me.
My brother just told me that a son of a friend is now in Iraq after Afghanistan. They need food…he has lost 17# & says to send tuna packed in water. A caller to Randi Rhodes today (her husband is serving) talked about the lack of food. My nephew leaves for basic training (Marines) this week & now we have to worry if he gets sent to the middle east not only about the danger but also malnutrion or starving? And to think that these people who get read in major media outlets could be writing about this instead of nonsense. Damn fine americans, aren’t they?

]]> By: Rayne http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/#comment-115584 Rayne Tue, 23 May 2006 23:32:40 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/#comment-115584 <p>Media, owned by the right, with reporting provided by folks who know where their next meal comes from…</p> <p>If we should manage to win back a majority in Congress through the right’s own self-disgust and a modicum of due diligence on our part, one of the very first things we should do is restore the Fairness Doctrine. Period.</p> <p>And consider a new methodology on ownership of media that encourages diversity and not consolidation.</p> <p>In this way we won’t have to read about the Heathers. Maybe just Heather, singular.</p> <p>p.s. AOL has that dreadful NYT-Healy piece up on its splash page, replete with surveys. Morons. Ugh.</p> Media, owned by the right, with reporting provided by folks who know where their next meal comes from…

If we should manage to win back a majority in Congress through the right’s own self-disgust and a modicum of due diligence on our part, one of the very first things we should do is restore the Fairness Doctrine. Period.

And consider a new methodology on ownership of media that encourages diversity and not consolidation.

In this way we won’t have to read about the Heathers. Maybe just Heather, singular.

p.s. AOL has that dreadful NYT-Healy piece up on its splash page, replete with surveys. Morons. Ugh.

]]> By: Max-1 http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/#comment-115553 Max-1 Tue, 23 May 2006 22:53:19 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/#comment-115553 <p>Would it too brazen to write to the MSM and ask of them why it is that they are complacent in knowing that contacts that they may make may be grounds for their reporters to be thrown in jail. </p> <p>All stations are almost mum on the subject. </p> <p>Too bad Cheney didn’t have a gun on this one, Otherwise they would have been all over this like a lie on a lier, or stink on . . . well ya know what I mean.</p> <p>Silence and complacency in an era of oppression and tyranny, when free press no longer freely reports facts in favor of gaining the favor of those in power, leads society to question the integrity and transparency of the MSM as that of complicity to the dumbing of the masses. </p> <p>p.s.<br /> What stations haven’t covered American Idol this last week, EVERY FRICKIN DAY?</p> Would it too brazen to write to the MSM and ask of them why it is that they are complacent in knowing that contacts that they may make may be grounds for their reporters to be thrown in jail.

All stations are almost mum on the subject.

Too bad Cheney didn’t have a gun on this one, Otherwise they would have been all over this like a lie on a lier, or stink on . . . well ya know what I mean.

Silence and complacency in an era of oppression and tyranny, when free press no longer freely reports facts in favor of gaining the favor of those in power, leads society to question the integrity and transparency of the MSM as that of complicity to the dumbing of the masses.

p.s.
What stations haven’t covered American Idol this last week, EVERY FRICKIN DAY?

]]> By: Primordial Ooze http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/#comment-115468 Primordial Ooze Tue, 23 May 2006 22:00:48 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/#comment-115468 <p>GSD 109- You don’t know how lucky you are boy…</p> GSD 109- You don’t know how lucky you are boy…

]]> By: BlueUU http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/#comment-115456 BlueUU Tue, 23 May 2006 21:50:13 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/#comment-115456 <p>I sent this to Byron Calame. Jeez.</p> <p>I am very disgusted with the breathless reporting about the Clintons’ marriage in the Times. Why is the NYC/DC corridor so obsessed with their marriage/sex life? This is pretty much a gossip column on the front page.</p> <p>IF you’re going to do this kind of marriage exposé stuff, then what about the Republicans–Guiliani? Gingrich? Marriages should be PRIVATE. But if you’re going to gossip about them, then be even-handed. I want to see in-depth coverage of Republican marital stresses and strains that equal the implications of Senator Clinton’s marriage if you’re going to go down that road.</p> <p>But really and truly, I’d like to see the NY Times act like the fourth estate and cover the real problems facing America right now, including some significant reporting, analysis and where necessary criticism of the WHite House and Congress. It’s no wonder I don’t buy your paper anymore, only read links online. Why should I waste money on tabloid-style BS?</p> I sent this to Byron Calame. Jeez.

I am very disgusted with the breathless reporting about the Clintons’ marriage in the Times. Why is the NYC/DC corridor so obsessed with their marriage/sex life? This is pretty much a gossip column on the front page.

IF you’re going to do this kind of marriage exposé stuff, then what about the Republicans–Guiliani? Gingrich? Marriages should be PRIVATE. But if you’re going to gossip about them, then be even-handed. I want to see in-depth coverage of Republican marital stresses and strains that equal the implications of Senator Clinton’s marriage if you’re going to go down that road.

But really and truly, I’d like to see the NY Times act like the fourth estate and cover the real problems facing America right now, including some significant reporting, analysis and where necessary criticism of the WHite House and Congress. It’s no wonder I don’t buy your paper anymore, only read links online. Why should I waste money on tabloid-style BS?

]]> By: professor rat http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/#comment-115434 professor rat Tue, 23 May 2006 21:25:33 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/#comment-115434 <p>After Jayson Blair and Judith Miller who in their right mind is relying on this old grey bag lady for hard news anyway?<br /> That said Hillbilly is fair game imho.<br /> Where was she when hubby was signing death warrants for mentally disabled prisoners, anti-welfare measures, CLIPPER chip proposals, pardons for Marc Rich and etc, etc, etc?<br /> Why should we trust a women who claims to ‘ see’ Elenor Roosvelt and ‘ vast right wing conspiracies’ yet won’t do anything much about either.<br /> And just lately this ugly harridan has turned really nasty and gone over to the dark side on the war, flag burning and womens health choices.<br /> The fact that her marriage gives every indication of being a hollow sham in this context is news. People elect people they can identify with and trust - no fakes frauds and phonies who are now acting as fascist as all get out.<br /> If you want a military/entertainment complex approved ‘ Manchurian’ candidate vote Hillbilly.<br /> If you want a democrat then join the roots rock revolution right here.<br /> Let’s ditch the bitch - shes a coffin eyed Joe in drag. Fuck the KKKlintons and all who sail in them I say. I’m professor rat and I appoved this message.</p> After Jayson Blair and Judith Miller who in their right mind is relying on this old grey bag lady for hard news anyway?
That said Hillbilly is fair game imho.
Where was she when hubby was signing death warrants for mentally disabled prisoners, anti-welfare measures, CLIPPER chip proposals, pardons for Marc Rich and etc, etc, etc?
Why should we trust a women who claims to ‘ see’ Elenor Roosvelt and ‘ vast right wing conspiracies’ yet won’t do anything much about either.
And just lately this ugly harridan has turned really nasty and gone over to the dark side on the war, flag burning and womens health choices.
The fact that her marriage gives every indication of being a hollow sham in this context is news. People elect people they can identify with and trust – no fakes frauds and phonies who are now acting as fascist as all get out.
If you want a military/entertainment complex approved ‘ Manchurian’ candidate vote Hillbilly.
If you want a democrat then join the roots rock revolution right here.
Let’s ditch the bitch – shes a coffin eyed Joe in drag. Fuck the KKKlintons and all who sail in them I say. I’m professor rat and I appoved this message.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/#comment-115427 MarkH Tue, 23 May 2006 21:21:10 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/#comment-115427 <p>The Republicans and Corporate America will trash Dems everywhere they can. They know the Republicans are going to look very bad in every congressional senate or presidential race for some time, so they have to level the playing field. This is standard operating procedure for Republicans. It might take billions, but they’ll do it.</p> <p>Some of them will attack Hillary because they assume the amount of money a candidate has is all that really indicates whether they can run and win. That is how they do it on their side, so they assume the Dems must operate about the same. Unfortunately this proves to be true far too often.</p> <p>There seems to be three significant groups in America: Corporate Rich America who run everything and fund candidates who will support them, Politicians who take money from Corporate America (both Republicans and Democrats) and the Public who aren’t really in the game.</p> <p>Maybe someday we’ll see a real Democracy in America, but it ain’t happening just yet. When was the last time you saw a poor person win a political seat? When was the last time we had a non-millionaire Senator? When was the last time we had women commanding 51% of the Senate or House seats? It’s definately a work in progress. When the public gets too close the Rich step in and rig the campaign funding and elections.</p> <p>Bush maybe be stupid, but he’s not an idiot. He knows he’s both received the benefit of Big Money and is now receiving the low public opinion which resulted from his poor performance (in their eyes) and he simply doesn’t care. He won all he set out to win and he’s done everything he’s wanted and nobody stopped him. What more could a politician ask for. So, where is the American public in this? When do they get what they want? Don’t hold your breath.</p> <p>In the 1930s during the Great Depression the Capitalist system wasn’t working so well and Socialism began to take hold. Despite wailing from the Rich FDR saved their system with Liberalism. The ungrateful wretches hated him nonetheless. What this shows is that the American public really want a good economy and aren’t so interested in foreign affairs and war (good common sense there). If we’re anything like the Europeans the public would probably be very far to the left of today’s so-called Centrists. But, the Rich won’t allow that, so we end up with “NorthEastern Liberals” like Bill Clinton and Joe Lieberman. That way anyone to their left can be labeled a Commie and the like. It’s a corrupt system. The game is fixed. The deck is stacked. Americans by and large do not get the government they need.</p> The Republicans and Corporate America will trash Dems everywhere they can. They know the Republicans are going to look very bad in every congressional senate or presidential race for some time, so they have to level the playing field. This is standard operating procedure for Republicans. It might take billions, but they’ll do it.

Some of them will attack Hillary because they assume the amount of money a candidate has is all that really indicates whether they can run and win. That is how they do it on their side, so they assume the Dems must operate about the same. Unfortunately this proves to be true far too often.

There seems to be three significant groups in America: Corporate Rich America who run everything and fund candidates who will support them, Politicians who take money from Corporate America (both Republicans and Democrats) and the Public who aren’t really in the game.

Maybe someday we’ll see a real Democracy in America, but it ain’t happening just yet. When was the last time you saw a poor person win a political seat? When was the last time we had a non-millionaire Senator? When was the last time we had women commanding 51% of the Senate or House seats? It’s definately a work in progress. When the public gets too close the Rich step in and rig the campaign funding and elections.

Bush maybe be stupid, but he’s not an idiot. He knows he’s both received the benefit of Big Money and is now receiving the low public opinion which resulted from his poor performance (in their eyes) and he simply doesn’t care. He won all he set out to win and he’s done everything he’s wanted and nobody stopped him. What more could a politician ask for. So, where is the American public in this? When do they get what they want? Don’t hold your breath.

In the 1930s during the Great Depression the Capitalist system wasn’t working so well and Socialism began to take hold. Despite wailing from the Rich FDR saved their system with Liberalism. The ungrateful wretches hated him nonetheless. What this shows is that the American public really want a good economy and aren’t so interested in foreign affairs and war (good common sense there). If we’re anything like the Europeans the public would probably be very far to the left of today’s so-called Centrists. But, the Rich won’t allow that, so we end up with “NorthEastern Liberals” like Bill Clinton and Joe Lieberman. That way anyone to their left can be labeled a Commie and the like. It’s a corrupt system. The game is fixed. The deck is stacked. Americans by and large do not get the government they need.

]]> By: Oscarsmom http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/#comment-115415 Oscarsmom Tue, 23 May 2006 21:07:19 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/#comment-115415 <p>lobstergirl #108—the Fitzgerald link was sent to me via a google news alert . . . does the tinyurl not work?</p> <p>I’m not making it up, I swear! :(</p> lobstergirl #108—the Fitzgerald link was sent to me via a google news alert . . . does the tinyurl not work?

I’m not making it up, I swear! :(

]]> By: LJ/Aquaria http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/#comment-115407 LJ/Aquaria Tue, 23 May 2006 21:02:31 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/return-of-the-heathers/#comment-115407 <p>Maybe the question now is where is the Christian Slater character to relieve us of these tiresome Heathers? And I don’t mean that in the literal sense. Just…Please…Someone. Fire them all, make the papers go out of business. Start the hell over. Something. Anything. Other than this travesty.</p> Maybe the question now is where is the Christian Slater character to relieve us of these tiresome Heathers? And I don’t mean that in the literal sense. Just…Please…Someone. Fire them all, make the papers go out of business. Start the hell over. Something. Anything. Other than this travesty.

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