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		<title>By: Laura Strand</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/bush-should-withdraw-mine-safety-nominee/#comment-116579</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Strand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 20:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jason Welcome!  I love confined space and TPM’s House of Labor.&lt;br /&gt;
I did a quick search several days after the Sago disaster for a letter to the editor at the San Francisco Chronicle.  Interested parties should check out the Mine Safety stats on regulatory rollbacks by Bush appointees.  When Lauritzki was appointed he removed agenda items that would have allowed for the adoption of approximately 18 regulations related to mine safety - so many of them simply common sense and cost efficient.  One can only concluse that the industry is willing to accept the loss of life of workers knowing that fines are very low and not routinely enforced. Profits before people with the assistance of the Bush administration.&lt;br /&gt;
Worst Ever!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason Welcome!  I love confined space and TPM’s House of Labor.<br />
I did a quick search several days after the Sago disaster for a letter to the editor at the San Francisco Chronicle.  Interested parties should check out the Mine Safety stats on regulatory rollbacks by Bush appointees.  When Lauritzki was appointed he removed agenda items that would have allowed for the adoption of approximately 18 regulations related to mine safety &#8211; so many of them simply common sense and cost efficient.  One can only concluse that the industry is willing to accept the loss of life of workers knowing that fines are very low and not routinely enforced. Profits before people with the assistance of the Bush administration.<br />
Worst Ever!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Blifil</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/bush-should-withdraw-mine-safety-nominee/#comment-116316</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Blifil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 17:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes President Bush should withdraw the nomination. The fact is that he simply won’t. He has never admitted to error, even in the Harriet Myers fiasco. It is up to Democrats to present a bulletproof case to the world as to the conflicts of interest inherent in naming this nominee. They need to press upon the nominee how they intend to make his record an issue at the hearings, in order to allow the candidate himself a shot at a face-saving withdrawal.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Long story short: the guy is a shoe-in.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes President Bush should withdraw the nomination. The fact is that he simply won’t. He has never admitted to error, even in the Harriet Myers fiasco. It is up to Democrats to present a bulletproof case to the world as to the conflicts of interest inherent in naming this nominee. They need to press upon the nominee how they intend to make his record an issue at the hearings, in order to allow the candidate himself a shot at a face-saving withdrawal.</p>
<p>Long story short: the guy is a shoe-in.</p>
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		<title>By: angie</title>
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		<dc:creator>angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 16:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jordan– thank you for a terrific post and I look forward to more…  This is a terribly important issue to me.  I watch the new coal commercials touting our abundance of it and think of the dead miners; it is a terrible irony.  I watched that sob Dye walk out on the mine safety hearings and was aghast…but then again, he is a bush appointee and therefore, not accountable.  Thanks again.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan– thank you for a terrific post and I look forward to more…  This is a terribly important issue to me.  I watch the new coal commercials touting our abundance of it and think of the dead miners; it is a terrible irony.  I watched that sob Dye walk out on the mine safety hearings and was aghast…but then again, he is a bush appointee and therefore, not accountable.  Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/bush-should-withdraw-mine-safety-nominee/#comment-116070</link>
		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 13:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree that we should not use Ch*na as any kind of measure. That country seems to be going through an era of unchecked moneybagging. This country is supposed to have gone through *that* already.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that we should not use Ch*na as any kind of measure. That country seems to be going through an era of unchecked moneybagging. This country is supposed to have gone through *that* already.</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/23/bush-should-withdraw-mine-safety-nominee/#comment-116064</link>
		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 12:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sometimes I fear we are going back in time to some pre-Roosevelt early industrial era when work-related fatal accidents and funerals were neverending.&lt;br /&gt;
re: certain unnamed country. Someone I know said, “it’s like a black hole that sucks you in and spits out bones.” The world definitely needs some checks and balances on moneybaggers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I fear we are going back in time to some pre-Roosevelt early industrial era when work-related fatal accidents and funerals were neverending.<br />
re: certain unnamed country. Someone I know said, “it’s like a black hole that sucks you in and spits out bones.” The world definitely needs some checks and balances on moneybaggers.</p>
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		<title>By: Devilstower</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devilstower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 12:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jordan,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d like to thank you for this post.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After working over twenty-five years in the coal industry (including a year spent as a belt walker in an underground mine), I’m in full agreement with your words here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While the deaths of so many miners over the last few months is a tragedy, it’s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; an accident.  Even back when he was running for congresss in Texas, Bush commented that one of the agencies he wanted to see completely eliminated was OSHA.  I’m sure, had he been involved in mining, MSHA would have also been on that list.  Since taking office, the deep cuts to both agencies show that nothing has changed.  Bush and his cohorts view worker safety as an obstacle to maximum profits.  To them, the death of miners is an acceptable loss, so long as the bottom line is enhanced.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush can not pretend to be surprised at these deaths.  He knew what OSHA and MSHA were designed to do, and he didn’t just ignore the goals of the agencies, he actively opposed them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Only two years ago, I was able to state sincerely that most coal companies had a deep concern for safety, and only a small handful of “rogues” still put their men at risk for a tiny difference in return.  However, even then I failed to see just how much interest in safety had already been relaxed by Bush’s active disinterest.  Declining inspections, laughable fines, and lax regulations all lead directly to these deaths.  The companies that run these mines and the Bush administration collaborated in these men’s deaths as surely as if they had set the explosions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There still &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; companies in the industry that have a deep respect for safety (the company where I currently work sends every single employee, even those in the office who will never see a mine, to safety training, CPR training, and two levels of first aid training.  We don’t start a meeting, not even a meeting to discuss changes in the web servers, without a “safety contact”), but even there, I would not expect this interest to carry on indefinitely without regulation.  Coal mines are safer than they used to be.  Coal mines do a better job of  reclamation than they did in the past.  Coal power is cleaner than it was thirty years ago.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why?  Because of &lt;i&gt;regulations&lt;/i&gt; that forced bad actors to clean up their acts.  If that regulation is not enforced, Bush will certainly get his wish — a dirty, hostile, extraordinarily dangerous industry, just like the one my grandfathers knew.  But hey, maybe the companies will make an extra penny or two.  That would make it all worth it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m sure the families of those lost would agree.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan,</p>
<p>I’d like to thank you for this post.  </p>
<p>After working over twenty-five years in the coal industry (including a year spent as a belt walker in an underground mine), I’m in full agreement with your words here.</p>
<p>While the deaths of so many miners over the last few months is a tragedy, it’s <i>not</i> an accident.  Even back when he was running for congresss in Texas, Bush commented that one of the agencies he wanted to see completely eliminated was OSHA.  I’m sure, had he been involved in mining, MSHA would have also been on that list.  Since taking office, the deep cuts to both agencies show that nothing has changed.  Bush and his cohorts view worker safety as an obstacle to maximum profits.  To them, the death of miners is an acceptable loss, so long as the bottom line is enhanced.</p>
<p>Bush can not pretend to be surprised at these deaths.  He knew what OSHA and MSHA were designed to do, and he didn’t just ignore the goals of the agencies, he actively opposed them.</p>
<p>Only two years ago, I was able to state sincerely that most coal companies had a deep concern for safety, and only a small handful of “rogues” still put their men at risk for a tiny difference in return.  However, even then I failed to see just how much interest in safety had already been relaxed by Bush’s active disinterest.  Declining inspections, laughable fines, and lax regulations all lead directly to these deaths.  The companies that run these mines and the Bush administration collaborated in these men’s deaths as surely as if they had set the explosions.</p>
<p>There still <i>are</i> companies in the industry that have a deep respect for safety (the company where I currently work sends every single employee, even those in the office who will never see a mine, to safety training, CPR training, and two levels of first aid training.  We don’t start a meeting, not even a meeting to discuss changes in the web servers, without a “safety contact”), but even there, I would not expect this interest to carry on indefinitely without regulation.  Coal mines are safer than they used to be.  Coal mines do a better job of  reclamation than they did in the past.  Coal power is cleaner than it was thirty years ago.</p>
<p>Why?  Because of <i>regulations</i> that forced bad actors to clean up their acts.  If that regulation is not enforced, Bush will certainly get his wish — a dirty, hostile, extraordinarily dangerous industry, just like the one my grandfathers knew.  But hey, maybe the companies will make an extra penny or two.  That would make it all worth it.</p>
<p>I’m sure the families of those lost would agree.</p>
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		<title>By: professor rat</title>
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		<dc:creator>professor rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 08:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m sad to report that propaganda of the deed is not popular among todays libertarian socialists and is even attacked by a few neo-marxist entryists.&lt;br /&gt;
So there may not be any more Emile Henry’s or Ravachol’s. No more Leon Czolgosz’s&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Czolgosz&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Czolgosz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They just don’t make anarchists the way they used to and so this is what happens.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m sad to report that propaganda of the deed is not popular among todays libertarian socialists and is even attacked by a few neo-marxist entryists.<br />
So there may not be any more Emile Henry’s or Ravachol’s. No more Leon Czolgosz’s</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Czolgosz">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Czolgosz</a></p>
<p>They just don’t make anarchists the way they used to and so this is what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharkbabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharkbabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 03:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mrs. K8 - much as we revere the Founders, I’m afraid they wimped out and got some crucial things fatally wrong. E.g., elections. Electoral college, elitist horseshit, just waiting all these years and decades for the likes of Karl. The founders didn’t envision a monster of the magnitude of Karl. What normal 18th c. human possibly could? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Etc. Etc. And where the FUCK did the presidential pardon come from. This is pure divine-right-of-king CRAP, makes a MOCKERY of absolutely everything. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our system was fucked from the get, really. It was set up by people who counted on people to be civilized humans like themselves. Big mistake.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. K8 &#8211; much as we revere the Founders, I’m afraid they wimped out and got some crucial things fatally wrong. E.g., elections. Electoral college, elitist horseshit, just waiting all these years and decades for the likes of Karl. The founders didn’t envision a monster of the magnitude of Karl. What normal 18th c. human possibly could? </p>
<p>Etc. Etc. And where the FUCK did the presidential pardon come from. This is pure divine-right-of-king CRAP, makes a MOCKERY of absolutely everything. </p>
<p>Our system was fucked from the get, really. It was set up by people who counted on people to be civilized humans like themselves. Big mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan Barab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan Barab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 03:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;1. Are the portable breathing devices essentially a sham?&lt;br /&gt;
2. Off the top of your head, do you know the situation with possible relaxation of previous work safety regs during this Bush admin? &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No, portable breathing devices are useful if they’re appropriate for the intended purpose. In other words, if you have devices that last 10 minutes,then you’d better be able to escape, or to get to a bigger oxygen supply within 10 minutes. Also, they need to work properly, which apparently many of the devices at Sago, and in Kentucky earlier this week, didn’t.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ve written a number of stories on relaxation and repeal of regs. Regarding mining, check  &lt;a href=&quot;http://spewingforth.blogspot.com/2006/02/diesel-exhaust-and-lung-cancer-mine.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://spewingforth.blogspot.com/2006/01/story-behind-latest-mine-deaths-bush.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>1. Are the portable breathing devices essentially a sham?<br />
2. Off the top of your head, do you know the situation with possible relaxation of previous work safety regs during this Bush admin? </em></p>
<p>No, portable breathing devices are useful if they’re appropriate for the intended purpose. In other words, if you have devices that last 10 minutes,then you’d better be able to escape, or to get to a bigger oxygen supply within 10 minutes. Also, they need to work properly, which apparently many of the devices at Sago, and in Kentucky earlier this week, didn’t.</p>
<p>I’ve written a number of stories on relaxation and repeal of regs. Regarding mining, check  <a href="http://spewingforth.blogspot.com/2006/02/diesel-exhaust-and-lung-cancer-mine.html">here</a> and <a href="http://spewingforth.blogspot.com/2006/01/story-behind-latest-mine-deaths-bush.html">here</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. K8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. K8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 03:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OT, but good news (and good news has been few and far between):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A Newsday article:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;“NY judge: Endless ban on speech in NSLs likely unconstitutional”&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s the link:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny–natlsecuritylette0523may23,0,3296584.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork&quot;&gt;http://www.newsday.com/news/lo.....-apnewyork&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The article is excellent, and heartening to see a judge vehemently stick up for our ailing Constitution.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT, but good news (and good news has been few and far between):</p>
<p>A Newsday article:</p>
<p><b>“NY judge: Endless ban on speech in NSLs likely unconstitutional”</b></p>
<p>Here’s the link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny–natlsecuritylette0523may23,0,3296584.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork">http://www.newsday.com/news/lo&#8230;..-apnewyork</a></p>
<p>The article is excellent, and heartening to see a judge vehemently stick up for our ailing Constitution.</p>
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