
Ramesh Ponnuru swears he didn’t really mean the Democrats when he called his new book The Party of Death, but was instead referring to the NRO’s annual Keg Party of Death, or, no, it was actually a certain Bat Mitzvah of Death in Trenton, New Jersey. But since we’re on the topic, I would like to bring a few things to Mr. Ponnuru’s attention.
It isn’t exactly rocket surgery to figure out that under Republican control of all three branches of government, the bottom has rapidly begun to fall out of public health. Selling our nation’s health care system to Big Pharma and the Insurance companies has been the GOP agenda from the get-go. But let’s look at some statistics from the House Governmental Appropriations Committee:
The number of Americans without health insurance increased by 1.4 million last year and 5 million since the Bush-Cheney administration came to power, reaching a total of 45 million-the largest number of uninsured Americans ever recorded. The percentage of the population without health insurance rose from 15.2 percent in 2002 to 15.6 percent in 2003.
That number has only grown since the report was compiled. This presents a tremendous danger to public health. People don’t seek help for health issues now until they are so sick that they have no choice. Some people don’t seek help at all. This means that infectious diseases and other threats to public health have more of an opportunity to gain a foothold within our population. A society is only as healthy as its poorest parts of town because epidemics begin where nutrition, hygeine, and living conditions are poor, but they don’t stay there. Germs don’t care about the gates on your community. They’ll come in any way they can. They’re upwardly mobile and truly democratic. When access to health care is divided along economic lines, society as a whole is weakened.
But beyond the right wing’s fawning toadyism toward the interests of big business, even a cursory view of health trends demonstrates that on nearly every front, Republicans consistently act against the public good by acting for their own gain. By catering to a base of religious extremists, they are playing Russian roulette with the health of millions of people all over the world. Take AIDS. Back in the 80’s, Reagan and Bush the First consistently opposed funding for HIV research and appropriate action against HIV related diseases. From writer Michael Bronski:
[Reagan's] appalling lack of leadership and vision — which led directly to enormous setbacks for HIV/AIDS research, discrimination against people with AIDS and the lack of any comprehensive outreach for prevention or education work, thus adding to the already-staggering tally of deaths — was a product of indifference, disdain, self-imposed ignorance and a political capitulation to the rising wave of a new, staunchly reactionary and religious Republican constituency that was to reshape not only the party but the state of American politics.
The Reagan/Bush administrations had always opposed the existence of a federal tuberculosis task force and in 1985, they managed to do away with it. Immediately, tuberculosis rates in this country soared from a record low in that year to the highest numbers in American history. This trend was only brought to heel when Bill Clinton took office and provided resources to the CDC. This is from a recent CDC report on TB:
After the unprecedented 1985-1992 resurgence in TB in the United States, the annual TB rate steadily decreased during 1993-2005; however, the decline has recently decelerated, raising concerns that the progress toward eliminating TB is slowing.
Guess whose budget cuts we have to thank for that?
Had enough? Well, how about this from Africa?
Stephen Lewis, the UN secretary general’s special envoy for HIV/Aids in Africa, said US cuts in funding for condoms and an emphasis on promoting abstinence had contributed to a shortage of condoms in Uganda, one of the few African countries which has succeeded in reducing its infection rate.
"There is no doubt in my mind that the condom crisis in Uganda is being driven by [US policies]," Mr Lewis said yesterday. "To impose a dogma-driven policy that is fundamentally flawed is doing damage to Africa." The condom shortage has developed because both the Ugandan government and the US, which is the main donor for HIV/Aids prevention, have allowed supplies to dwindle, according to an American pressure group, the Centre for Health and Gender Equity (Change).
In 2003, President Bush declared he would spend $15bn on his emergency plan for Aids relief, but receiving aid under the programme has moral strings attached.
Recipient countries have to emphasise abstinence over condoms, and – under a congressional amendment – they must condemn prostitution.
Yeah. That’s going to work out just great. Don’t fight AIDS with condoms! Fight it with Bibles!!
I had the honor of interviewing scientist Don Francis, the maverick AIDS and Ebola researcher who is featured prominently in Randy Shilts’s epic biography of the AIDS virus, And the Band Played On. I asked him what is the single biggest impediment to realistic AIDS prevention and treatment in the world, and he said, "Conservative politicians. They won’t accept reality, and insist upon interfering with public health. Public health should be beyond the reach of ill-informed power-brokers and their religious agendas."
The struggle is always with us. Whether it’s the Right’s opposition to birth control, abortion, contragestives like RU4-86, sex and health education, AIDS prevention, and now to the cervical cancer vaccine or their stubborn refusal to provide health care to the poor and middle class on any kind of resonable and affordable basis, it’s like they’re trying to commit cultural suicide. Or when you consider that the US currently boasts the second highest infant mortality rate in the developed world, economic genocide. It’s ethnic cleansing, the free market way! Those aren’t the children of Bill O’Reilly’s White Christians who are dying in such staggering numbers. And all this comes from the people who swear they’re trying to Save the Babies™ by chiselling away at Roe v. Wade, and if that doesn’t work, by bombing abortion clinics and taking out bounties on nurses and physicians who work in clinics that perform abortions. It’s like Barney Frank says, "Republicans believe that life begins at conception and ends at birth."
Clearly, the right wing minority would rather preach empty platitudes than save lives, even if that means killing and maiming some people along the way. It’s better for people to die with Jesus in their hearts than to live with medicine in their bodies, I guess. WHO are you calling the "Party of Death", now, Skeeter? Do we need to continue this discussion to include how y’all’s "Culture of Life" is working out in Baghdad?
Republicanism is hazardous to your health. The "Culture of Life" will kill you. Now that we have that cleared up, I trust we won’t be hearing any more of this tripe from you, Ramesh.
Ramesh?
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Two minutes early TRex!
Fitz?
Fitz and TRex and life!
Trex #91…. Last thread.
We all know what the Republican party stands for already.
Death, Corruption, Fascism and Treason.
What else is there to know?
Excellent, TRex.
Since “pro-life” = “anti-science”, “pro-life” = “anti-life”.
QED.
Seems like a kewl gig, Ramesh, chief bull-slinger.
This was a comment from BobbyG on a thread a good while back, but it stuck with me:
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ment-89533
There are two fundamental models for “insurance” — [1] actuarial, and [2] social. The BushCo explicit goal is to eliminate the latter. The commercial insurors’ goal is to make sure that the only “insurable” risk is the customer representing near-zero risk. They are colluding make this the reality.
VG,
Left you a comment on the bottom of the last thread.
Where do you find Ramesh’ book? In the fiction section?
OT:
I have scandalous news to relate:
Tonight, I did not have dinner with my partner.
I was invited by a client for dinner and so was my partner, but he was not feeling well, he told me, and I went to dinner with my client alone. When I got home, he was tired an literally bellyaching.
I thought this might be relevant, since the NYT finds it once again newsworthy to speculate about how often Bill and Hillary fuck.
BTW great post, Solomons heir.
I think the best the Republicans can really claim for themselves is “Culture Of Birth”.
Bosch is in the house.
Good read, bad deeds.
-GSD
“I thought this might be relevant, since the NYT finds it once again newsworthy to speculate about how often Bill and Hillary fuck.”
Imagine the same angle being taken with the Bush’s?
I don’t think so.
-GSD
Hey, TRex – The short-sidedness of abstinence is killing people. Catch this article from the W.Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01628.html
“GAO Criticizes Bush’s AIDS Plan – Abstinence-and-Fidelity Provision Sowing Confusion, Report Says”:
The requirement that a large fraction of President Bush’s global AIDS plan go to promote abstinence and fidelity is causing confusion in many countries and in a few is eroding other prevention efforts, including ones to reduce mother-to-child transmission of the virus.
Those are among the chief conclusions of an 87-page report by the Government Accountability Office that examined the most controversial aspect of the giant AIDS plan, budgeted at $15 billion over five years. …
Bosch is in the house.
The White House, seems like.
Taylor, No. 15.
This surprises me not at all. The Bushistas are ideologues and will never let reality stand in the way of a good talking point. They would rather see people die than have protected sex. Oh, yeah, them’s gooooood Christian values.
Rich people don’t have these problems. Rich people own our nation. Rich people could care less if you live or die.
Americans continue to vote for rich people.
So Americans get to die…a lot.
They would rather see people die than have protected sex. Oh, yeah, them’s gooooood Christian values.
They’re the Jason Voorhees party. Every time someone has extramarital sex, they should get killed.
Pach…
Thanks for the update. It’s SOO important for the Right to keep up with everyone’s private lives. I’m single and sprained my wrist recently, so I guess there’s no news here…yawn. (crickets chirping)
Pachacutec, I hope your loverman is feeling better soon. Do we need to call Judy Miller and make sure his tummy hasn’t been attacked with chemical or biological weapons? I hear she’s back on the WMD and Fear-Mongering Beat.
“Culture of Life” ? A true culture of life would celebrate health, dignity, and equality. This farce of piety makes a mockery of Christian belief.
Some days I wish there was even just a glimmer of hope that this 5 year plus nightmare would just go away.
The republicans do not believe in any such thing as a public good. Their take is that if you can’t make a profit from it, it’s both socialist and worthless.
re the last thread. I was watching CNN last night and it seems like Israel is doing it best to push us into an attack. The Prime Minister is saying Iran is months not years from a bomb.
Not only that, there was a ad blaming Carter for all the ills of Reagan and Bush41 and calling for his censure. The wingers chutzpah just takes my breath away.
BTW I am a proud occupant of the group W bench.
It appears that I doubly meant what I typed.
Sorry for the doublement.
Connecticuts Chris Dodd is getting ready to run for the Bosch, err, White House.
Can we make this next presidential election a reality show so that people will pay attention?
-GSD
Oilfieldguy- yes, I found it. And left a response.
Very nice, albeit earless, post.
I’m starting to think that Jane has been possessed by the spirit of Dorothy Parker and algonquin is spelled firedog in progressive.
My powers of perception sometimes leave me mystified.
I think you mean that the US has the second hightest infant mortality rate in the DEVELOPED world.
I also think I saw an article that said foodborn illness (eg, salmonella) outbreaks have increased due to combination of concentration in meat processing industry, modern mega food processing plants, and cutbacks in good inspections. Not a big deal maybe compared to what you listed. But might as well list them all.
And, diabetes funding slashed. So chronic non-infectious diseases get the GOPer treatment too. CDC is predicting that adult diabetes will explode in future, often beginning in adolescents. I have gone to conferences where docs and medical directors and public health officials, and even actuaries get up and run around with their hair on fire. Say things like “when I was a resident I saw one teenage patient with adult diabetes in four years, now I see at least one a week, in the same population.” So, what to do? Cut research and prevention funding, of course.
I think you mean that the US has the second hightest infant mortality rate in the DEVELOPED world.
Oops, you’re right. That is what I meant to say. Fixing now.
And, diabetes funding slashed. So chronic non-infectious diseases get the GOPer treatment too. CDC is predicting that adult diabetes will explode in future, often beginning in adolescents. I have gone to conferences where docs and medical directors and public health officials, and even actuaries get up and run around with their hair on fire. Say things like “when I was a resident I saw one teenage patient with adult diabetes in four years, now I see at least one a week, in the same population.” So, what to do? Cut research and prevention funding, of course.
Much like with global warming, although I can’t see what the angle is here, other than simple apathy and utter lack of compassion. Resistance to action on global warming I can understand, because they don’t want to hurt the oil companies – are the pharmaceutical companies so morally degenerate that they *want* more people to contract diabetes so they can make money off of them?
Okay, silly question…
TRex- sorry not to have given you earlier hearty props for this article. You have brought all of the issues together in exemplary fashion. And, to all of those who don’t know, TRex is incredibly knowledgeable about the scientific issues he discusses here, esp. infectious diseases. {{{hugs}}} TRex.
I believe that if I can’t see something then it’s not there. So, if I close my eyes and don’t see a health care problem, then there IS no health care problem. It’s the right-wing way! Deny, deny, deny.
I am so ashamed.
JANE- this person posted an earlier comment that was obnoxious. Looks like TRex deleted it (?) after I put it into moderated, and put something into the spam filter, as this one ended up in “moderated”. Just in case you are wondering.
Oh, one more point, going back to last thread. Was anyone else thinking about how Schwarzenneger was able to buy himself some cred with the Wiesenthal Center?
TRex,
Did I get the reference correct to King Solomon’s inheritence?
Excellent post, Rex. I have been shrieking about health care for a while now–props to you for taking a big stand, too.
The Party of Death, indeed. Culture of War = No Money for Health.
#34
Hell, I miss Nixon.
Big hugs back to you, VG. When do you want to get together and get some dim sum up in Chamblee/Tucker?
Hell, I miss Nixon.
When the president isn’t fit to kiss *Nixon’s* jock, the country is pretty much as fucked as it can possibly be.
Spell check, he spells his name “Ponnuru” not Ponnoru on his crappy book cover. Sorry to be the bad guy tonight lol.
An OP was run, and lesson was learned.
Yes, TRex, I noticed, thanks for the quick correction. I thought I would post a source table from OECD, so people could see the comparisons. OECD harmonizes the statistics hetween countries as much as possible. Many skeptics will say that reason is that US is higher is that very premature infants are counted as live births in US, but not in other countries. But note that Canada and Scandinavia have similar practice, yet their rates are substantially lower. So that doesn’t explain all that much either.
http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/7/41/35530083.xls
op99-
Fixed ramesh’s name.
Thanks for the heads-up.
Oilfieldguy-
You may have to explain the King Solomon reference to me. Do I inherit half a baby or something?
I’m not always mean enough for the algoguin, but jane and christy can handle the mean coming at us and turn into the best for our country, which deserves no mean.
EW, I’m not surprised
TRex, No problema. Now that I have read the post, may I compliment you on every other word in it?
I’m not always mean enough for the algoguin, but jane and christy can handle the mean coming at us and turn into the best for our country, which deserves no mean.
I’m not sure what you mean by this.
Now that I have read the post, may I compliment you on every other word in it?
Oh, absolutely. Flattery will get you everywhere.
Have governmental scientists been added to the Endangered Species List yet?
On an earlier post – the Book Salon yesterday – Jane @117 noted how the right wing has taken people’s frustration at things like the bad experience of the DMV lines and spun it out into frustration with government in general. What is needed, she said, is to delineate between the proper and improper places for government action.
This post and Jane’s comments came together, along with an interview I saw today with Max Mayfield, the head of the National Hurricane Center. NHC is part of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Center, which in turn is part of the National Weather Service – if I follow all the charts properly. Right now, the most productive and service oriented parts of government are those most directly scientific and most insulated from political pressure.
Pat Robertson’s prayers to the contrary, there’s nothing you can do to move a hurricane. All you can do if you’re head of the NHC is scream and holler (a) for residents to get the hell out of Dodge, and (b) for relief workers to get a lot of sleep now, ’cause they’re gonna need it soon. With Katrina, Rita, Wilma, and their kin, Max and his crew did their jobs, and did them amazingly well. Too bad the ball got dropped by the White House . . .
Props to Max, and to all the scientists who dare to stand up to political hacks who don’t what to do with numbers that aren’t preceeded by a dollar sign. We need more like you all.
(And big boos to the bozos in Congress who want to privatize the National Weather Service so their big business friends can make more money off of hurricane warnings!)
TRex- OMG! Soon! Real soon! I don’t know if you are thinking of a particular place, but I was introduced to one by a great friend (now in Hollywood as an actor, and what’s a whole nother story I have to tell you!). I am trying to remember the name of the place- Canton House?
I am trying to remember the name of the place- Canton House?
My brother has tried them all. He’ll set us right.
LOL. Mean that Eli might be mean elsewhere.
TRex- email me.
LOL. Mean that Eli might be mean elsewhere.
That would be about average for me.
Need to watch if BushCo does any political meddling wrt the cervical cancer vaccine based on religious wingnuts truly crazed and wicked nonsense. I guess we should stop herpes, syphilis and gonorrhea and HIV control programs, since those diseases make sex more dangerous too. If the Bushites do, FDL needs to publicize it.
Also need to publicize Bush’s statement that we should “set aside” question of whether global warming is natural or manmade. Even ignoring the fact that climate science has proven beyond any reasonable doubt that most if it is manmade (http://www.realclimate.org/), the question is why would we want to set that question aside unless the opposite was proven beyond a reasonable doubt? Does the corporate media give this guy a pass on anything he says, no matter how demented?
Okay, kids. My radio shift just ended. I have to run to Target and get some things before I head home. Thanks for stopping by for this edition of Rex’s Monday Late Nite Dance Partaaaaaaaay! I’ll be back next Monday with another post.
And I’ll check back in later. V-Girl, keep giving the trolls what-for!
Republican famine values…
Need to watch if BushCo does any political meddling wrt the cervical cancer vaccine based on religious wingnuts truly crazed and wicked nonsense. I guess we should stop herpes, syphilis and gonorrhea and HIV control programs, since those diseases make sex more dangerous too. If the Bushites do, FDL needs to publicize it.
Not just FDL, but *any* Dem challengers running against Republicans opposed to the papilloma virus need to make that part of their campaign. Not sure how many male voters will care, but if presented well, it could have a huge effect on female voters (most of whom I suspect have absolutely no idea about this).
TRex,
My son’s name is David. That is the reference. I am trying to remember the “outing” thread the other night and your given name. David is King Solomon’s inheritance.
I’m on the road, so clicking through channels I very briefly hit MSNBC with Tucker – talking to someguy, about how a major confrontation with China is imminent. In part bc China is taking some bizarre convoluted legal position about what it has the right to do with Taiwan.
Unfortunately, neither Tucker nor his guest realized that the legal opinion relied upon by China was written by, well Yoo guess who.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.latimes.com/news/na…..nes-nation
The high-profile departures mask an even broader problem that extends deep into supervisory ranks at FBI headquarters.
Currently, as many as one fifth of the 1,500 top FBI jobs in Washington are vacant, according to one agency official — including positions in anti-terrorism, intelligence-gathering and Internet crimes, which are among the FBI’s top priorities
Looks like Bush is running out of cronies. It’s hard when you don’t have enough friends to fill the team. I’m sure its nothing a little more illegal – but state secret – rendition, illegal but magicwandvoila now legal torture, illegal wiretaps and starting a few more wars while losing a few more billions won’t fix.
TRex, fabulous post. We’re going to be reeling for the next decade over the damage these superstitious freaks have done to the healthcare system (among others).
I’m in Dallas for the evening. Don’t ask. Doing all right, thanks to everyone for keeping things going.
Oh and Pach — I’ll alert the media.
I guess I got it wrong or you would have got the reference. Sort of like my running gag with Pach’s homage to the God of Ink.
Mean gross and mean beautiful and mean for this profit time and mean just lovely and beyond measure/i need punaise, who is not mean but meaningful in a mean yet justifiably mean and wonderful way.
another “gift” from the GOP, the Party of Death : lower life expectancy – Americans die 2 to 4 years younger than folk in other industrialized nations. Slovenians and Portuguese live longer than USAians ! There are about 30 other countries where people live longer too…
Well, I can’t top that, humble meanderthal that I am.
Eli, I can barely be mean in any way. But I’m working on it.
;)
Did Gonzales Kill Fitz’s Rove Indictments?
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..184052/881
Eli, I can barely be mean in any way. But I’m working on it.
I’m mean all the time, but I aspire to someday rise above it.
Rocket surgery? Are you sure you didn’t mean brain science?
You’re here, and I mean to love you, and someday I will.
Yes, perhaps me an you will be together someday.
Eli, the play on words. All the mean words that mean something cannot mean that we will even be meaningfully apart.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories…..5985.shtml
Rewriting The Science
===[]Piltz worked under the Clinton and Bush administrations. Each year, he helped write a report to Congress called “Our Changing Planet.”
Piltz says he is responsible for editing the report and sending a review draft to the White House.
Asked what happens, Piltz says: “It comes back with a large number of edits, handwritten on the hard copy by the chief-of-staff of the Council on Environmental Quality.”
Asked who the chief of staff is, Piltz says, “Phil Cooney.”
Piltz says Cooney is not a scientist. “He’s a lawyer. He was a lobbyist for the American Petroleum Institute, before going into the White House,” he says.
Cooney, the former oil industry lobbyist, became chief-of-staff at the White House Council on Environmental Quality. Piltz says Cooney edited climate reports in his own hand. In one report, a line that said earth is undergoing rapid change becomes “may be undergoing change.” “Uncertainty” becomes “significant remaining uncertainty.” One line that says energy production contributes to warming was just crossed out.
[]For months, 60 Minutes had been trying to talk with the president’s science advisor. 60 Minutes was finally told he would never be available. Phil Cooney, the editor at the Council on Environmental Quality didn’t return 60 Minutes’ calls. In June, he left the White House and went to work for Exxon Mobil.===
64 Lisa says: May 22nd, 2006 at 12:22 pm (Monday Blogoverse thread)
Lisa, I’m in Rochester, NY too. Come to Drinking Liberally, it’s just like here only real live people. You don’t have to drink hard likker.
http://drinkingliberally.org/subscribe1.html?id=11
Did Gonzales Kill Fitz’s Rove Indictments?
No. It’s an uninformed conspiracy theory.
Also, it’s funny how Shuster again reported that the GJ is meeting this Wednesday, without pointing out that it meets every Wednesday and Friday, and not always for the Plame case. He certainly well knows that. They use that phrase to drive ratings.
In the meantime, I mean to play a mean game of softball with some local mean and, um, womean.
this admistration in it’s communication with Iran truly means nothing. I think that they are liars and that Iran comes out to be the better in this. But I am disgusted with this administration, and find its presence desturbing. (is this OK?)
One aspect of culture of death not mentioned here is ocupational safety. Here is some interesting info on how Bush does things right in the mines. Also found interesting occupational health and safety blog. (Well, some people might be real excited about that!)
http://spewingforth.blogspot.c…..-osha.html
http://spewingforth.blogspot.com/
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..16409/2382
Also, real gluttons for punishment might want to check out Health United States. A handy dandy source for you download and check it all out. Warning: 10 MB file. But has interesting stuff. For example, there is more bad news on US infant mortality rate -it seems to be stalled at around 7/1000, and maybe rising. See pages 64 and 155.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/hus.htm
Sorry to hear about Pach’s friends stomach ailment. Glad he’s OK. You can see the Salmonella rates rising over time in here too.
objectice pronouns trump political discussion…but not now, for thanks
Did Gonzales Kill Fitz’ Rove Indictments?
I dunno, maybe Fitz SUED his boss about whether he could keep his job and asked a JUDGE to arbitrate who REALLY gets to be the boss at DOJ. But probably we’ll never know because – get this – it’s SEALED.
Do you know how fucking stupid a person has to be to think that diary was anything but BS for more than a nanosecond?
Peddle the moronosity elsewhere, Prog.
This is a test. This is only a test. Had this been a real comment, something meaningful – never mind.
I got that so wrong, I cannot play softball and I appreciate all that do. I wish that I was healthy to play. I have an illness, but even before I was ill, I was a Democrat and was vocal about my beliefs. I had bchrontis after Kerry lost, so sick. I fought so hard…some of us though disabled, did the very best that we could…still getting over it
You’re a real sweetheart, nines. I thought we were all in this together?
Sounds like you need some sleep.
I got that so wrong, I cannot play softball and I appreciate all that do.
Likewise, alas. But I keep trying. I’m sorry to hear about your illness – doesn’t sound like it held you back at election time, thankfully.
I will fight with the best of them. I really dislike politics, but in this time for this cause, I will do my best.
Shouldn’t we be told how often George and Laura are having sex with that horse of theirs?
Inquiring minds want to know.
For film buffs I swear Armand Assante smiles a little in his ‘ Kidnapped’ movie delivering the immortal line ,’ who is for king George!’
Laura?
Which hotmilitarymen.com man this week is fucking George?
Maybe instead of MaryI, I should be MeanMary?
Watched the Countdown late night repeat.
Gonzales – Congress made a policy judgment passing laws to allow journalists to go to jail for printing info and he “has a duty to enforce the laws” and if you read “really carefully” that is what those laws do.
Turley’s point – Gonzales is breaking the law and is now saying that he will use the office of the Attorney General to prosecute journalists who publish stories about HIS violations of the law.
Kind of like someone bringing suit for violations of the Torture Act being told – nanner nanner – we can’t be sued bc if we broke the law it’s a SECRET and besides, if the President says so, it’s not breaking the law. Hey, btw – why doncha fly into NY and we’ll discuss it again, ‘Kay?
I swear there are people in DOJ or who have gone on to their outside jobs after wreaking their havoc who don’t even bother to seend “wish you were here” postcards to the soul they sold. They have seen the victims of terrorism and have convinced themselves that they were in the right to toss out the Constitution – for the “long war” and beyond, bc we needed “security.”
They don’t just have every innocent person in GITMO or Bagram who was tortured on their plate, and the wrongful renditions like el-Masri (as if there could be a ‘rightful’ rendition) but they put in place the overweaning, unchecked, gobbling power that allowed for the President’s free pass to misuse and abuse intelligence and govt. agencies to send us to war. They fed him on a “you have the power” mantra – “we have the power.” The worst part is – they knew better.
You always know what happens when you let a client cheat and you abuse the system. When you give power to people like Bush and Cheney an Rumsfeld with no brakes. They knew. But they were all going to “get it right” and after all, *they* knew what they were doing, right?
Take a look around. They’ve left us with the 4th Cir as the lasting case law on what a President can do to an American citizen in disregard of the Bill of Rights. Not just for “their case” Padilla – but ALL CASES, All Americans, All Presidents. They’ve left us with no warrant clause in the Constitution as long as there is a President and terrrorists exist in the world. They’ve left us with a President who can break the law and then “legally” call it classified. They’ve left us with a President who can militarize and propagandize all intel, at will. They’ve left us with a President who can engage in illegal covert domestic propaganda, unhindered. They’ve left us with an AG who can prosecute journalists who write about his lawbreaking.
Rove is nothing next to what the lawyers have done.
Perhaps you should know that disabled people though that Kerry, despite the lies and tremor that Bush said did not have any value with part of the disabled community.
marily, marily, marily, marily
gently, drown the scream
Oh, Mary, it is so discouraging. Your law knowledge has informed me in so many way, but this is just reinforming what I already knew. They are lawless jerks that find a way to route our Constitution. Thank you for sharing your insightful knowledge for those of us that don’t get to see that. It means a lot.
Working at a community-based HIV prevention agency in 2002, I saw the Bushite anti-scientists relentlessly attack, because we were successfully addressing the second, post-protease inhibitor wave of urban gay HIV. They threw all sorts of obstacles at us and at the systems our City erected to support community health in San Francisco, such that those programs now are de-sexed and, probably, too tame to reach anyone anymore. BushCo’s contempt for science, health, disease prevention, and wellness is extraordinary — but perfectly aligned with their plan for a feudal theocracy.
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Had enough?
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I had a voice, and it felt really good, but I’ll be leaving now. Felt good.
For those of you who are undecided:
“Republicanism is hazardous to your health”, (ain’t that the truth- thanks TRex) your freedom, and your wallet. Republicanism is a proven toxic wasteland of useless, harmful, and hateful spew. Had enough yet? Vote the crooks out.
Teddy, precious person, I love science and knowledge and learning and harmony…1970’s geek
music and art, twisty turny and this is true? How did this happen? Holy f**ing god, what is this nightmare? I never was for him ever,jerk a88hole, and I devolve with every day. Doesn’t everyone in the country?
(the full version is awaiting moderation upstream):
marily x4
gently, drown the scream
(to the tune of row your boat)
Miners killed in ky died from defective air packs- same type as used in w virginia deaths.
Nice job clusterfuck
Pachacutec says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 8:12 pm
I thought this might be relevant, since the NYT finds it once again newsworthy to speculate about how often Bill and Hillary fuck.
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Overall, or just with each other?
Great post. Very well written, TRex.
(Sorry, it was right over the net, and I couldn’t resist.)
And, which major religion has as it’s primary symbol of inspiration an instrument of excruciating execution?
Clusterfuck took money from coal companies- Clusterfuck cut em slack on safety Miners dyin all over the place. Clusterfuck is- well- a murderer
I’m doing an informal poll: Does anyone out there have $90,000 in $100 bills sitting in their freezer?
Interesting article about Rover in the new “Economist”.
Frank Probst
Yes, but I used saran wrap.
Frank Probst #101: Well, sure. You need to crack somd thousand dollar bills or what? Why are you bothering the blog, you don’t have neighbors?
money in the freezer- I’ll go check
Suggested talking points for Dems:
1. Integrity. We’ll show you how it’s done by booting Mr $90,000-in-the-freezer off the plank.
2. Honesty. They don’t really need a talking point here. Just distribute last week’s “Saturday TV Funhouse”. Or any episode of “The Daily Show”.
3. Competence. Religion-based pseudoscience ties in with this, too. If your science isn’t any good, your city can wind up submerged. Pick any street corner in New Orleans for your backdrop.
4. Prudence. The talking point should be: “We need to reign in George W Bush’s liberal spending policies.”
5. Fairness. Roll back all of Bush’s tax cuts for people making more than $200,000 a year.
You know how people say “you can take that to the bank” or that’s “money in the bank”?
Now we got a new phrase, “money in the freezer.” For instance, when Rove goes to trial:
Re: The HPV vaccine posts above. This is a life-saving vaccine, and it should be given to pretty much all women. That part’s a no-brainer (but will still be a big fight with the religious right). My question is: Why isn’t this vaccine being marketed to men? From a public health standpoint, this is an obvious way to cut down on the spread of HPV. Granted, men don’t get cervical cancer, but you can still pitch it as a preventive measure against genital warts. “Bob has a warty penis. John doesn’t. Who do you think Sara’s going to want to go out with?”
Uh oh. I’m being moderated. What’d I do?
My Congresswoman, the Minority Leader, has simply got to get her tribe to vote Jefferson off the island — NOW.
OTOH, I do think it’s amazing that Frist and Hastert are voicing concern about the raids by the FBI on Jefferson’s Hill office this weekend — can you say “off-message?” Or, perhaps this is the thin blue FBI wedge Denny and CatKiller are frightened of?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01080.html
Frank -
Fixed. I don’t know what it was. Probably pen15 did it.
TeddySanFran says:
May 22nd, 2006 at 11:09 pm
My Congresswoman, the Minority Leader, has simply got to get her tribe to vote Jefferson off the island — NOW.
OTOH, I do think it’s amazing that Frist and Hastert are voicing concern about the raids by the FBI on Jefferson’s Hill office this weekend — can you say “off-message?” Or, perhaps this is the thin blue FBI wedge Denny and CatKiller are frightened of?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…../22/AR2006 052201080.html
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I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt on this. If the FBI had just raided one of my co-workers’ offices, I’d be a little “concerned”, too.
TeddySanFran #113
I think it is a “for whom the bell tolls” kinda thing. That Jefferson goofus was probably the only Democrat on the list.
Oops, that was a Probst post. I guess I didn’t read it carefull since no dirty words.
Don’t forget the damage to health that this administration’s pullback of environmental protection laws has done, too. Pollution can kill, if not as fast as a botched illegal abortion.
About Repugs’ caring: my wealthy Repubugican brother-in-law argues for all Bush’s ruin-the-environmental positions. Finally I asked him: “Now tell me truthfully. Do you care anything about other people, or don’t you?” He actually admitted that he did not.
When people have this kind of amoral mentality, no argument beyond their own self-interest will reach them. If you can think of one, let me know and I’ll try it. It’s a sad state of affairs. The only thing I can say in his favor is that he does not pretend to be a Christian, but I think he does believe he’s an ethical man.
He and too many others like him are what we’re up against.
punaise
the scream is not gently
and I said that I was disabled for the first time
I won’t leave this site ever
Frank Probst says:
(May 22nd, 2006 at 10:55 pm)
Not any more.
The first time I spoke here Mary called me Row, row row your boat
It’s not new.
Neither is screaming.
and to think that I thought I was having a good time and complimented you on the last thread.
Life is truly a dream.
I thought it was worth noting that though there may be some benifit to the new cervical vaccine (but who knows w/Mercks recent track record),there is good reason to be cautious about the agenda that is being pushed by Merck -that the vacination of all students with this new drug be mandatory for school admission. Now this should put the bible-pushing-relgious-fanatic politicians and those politicains who simply want to appeal to their Christian contstituents in a quandary – which Master shall they serve? Big business or the Church.
Marg, your brother doesn’t have any kids?
No money in my freezer. But I did stumble across a frozen pizza that’s currently making me very happy.
found this in the freezer
T Rex:
Great post and so, so true…….
Yesterday, I drove back from Homer, Alaska to Anchorage, where I dropped off a British conductor who lives in Berlin and a Japanese string bass genius, then on to home in Palmer.
We talked about music and the work we’d been doing together over the preceding eight days and the beauties of Alaska. But wev also talked about what T Rex has brought up.
Both love America and Americans (and the generosity of the Alaskans they met). But they are severely appalled at the nosedive opinion in Europe and Japan has taken towards our sense of planetary morality and conscience over the past six years. They understand why it has happened to the extent that a faction which had for a long time been influential in American policy has now completely taken over. They also understand that common Americans are more ignorant of world affairs and the workings of their government than common Japanese, British or Germans.
What struck them as most odd about us is the extent of influence of fundamentalist Christians and Jews in our political discourse. (See Taylor’s previous post for a bit of that!) They found this to be both stupid and dangerous. Very, very dangerous.
andrew bove #120: I’d suspect that there are more safeguards against corporate meddling in the cost benefit analysis that against religious meddling in DHHS and FDA. No ecumenical reigious peer review that I know of going on right now. Wish there were. I didn’t know there was big pharma money at stake in the vaccine development (I’m slow sometimes, ya know). But you are right, this should be interesting quandry. Merck may want to make elible group for vaccine too big. But fundamentalists don’t wnat it approved at all.
Someone needs to speak with me because I am find this experience very painful, which has not been my previous experience, and I need to know what is wrong.
Eet seems to me that the language of thees debate…
she ees confused, no?
Los Republiculos are not “pro-life”.
They are how-joo-say “anti-woman”.
Las Democratistas might do well to revisit their policies with a view towards making them “pro-woman”.
so.
Please.
marily
Speak to you about what?
punaise, that was funny.
El Gato Negro,
word play is one thing. confusion is not excused. i thank you for your graciousness, so lost in this culture among so many with so much. a woman whose brain works sometimes. confession is a)not allowed b)seldom accepted c)victim is always beheaded
d)ignored
Sad good bye, to you my space that seemed so responding,
matt is laughing
the cat is understanding
until Fitz
i am leaving
marily–hope you are not leaving with hurt feelings. No response–it’s the middle of the night, except where I am. If you had a comment in moderation, it just means something hit the spam filter and a human will look at it before posting. If you were hurt by punaise’s poem, it’s not personal, he plays with words and is a gentle commenter. Re mental illness, come join the club. There are several of us. Do come back and chat soon. ———egregious
Wired Calls Abu Gonzales’ Bluff
by emptywheel
“My favorite thing–among many favored things–about Wired posting Mark Klein’s documents about AT&T’s complicity in Bush’s domestic spying? They’re basically calling Abu Gonzales’ bluff. All over the Sunday talk shows, there he was, threatening to incarcerate journalists. Not Dana Priest and James Risen, mind you. Just unnamed future journalists. And have you noticed how quiet WaPo and NYT have gotten? Well, that’s what Abu Gonzales is looking for. Not direct confrontation, nosiree! He’s looking for fear. A cowed media. And unfortunately, our media is well-practiced at assuming the bovine position….”
http://thenexthurrah.typepad.c…..s_abu.html
i always keep my cash in the freezer, keeps it from burning a hole thru my pocket.
I used to keep my cash in a small crevasse in the glacier in my back yard but what with the GOP Party of Death dismissing Global Warming, I had to move the money to my freezer indoors.
May 9 Yahoo news areticle re: the US rate of infant mortality.Surprise! It ranks with Latvia’s…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200….._mortality
All those dead babies— but it seems the fetus-worshippers only care about dead fetuses.
Damn, it seems that Yahoo article has expired and the link no longer works.
Here’s a good article about the same subject from “Alas, a blog”
http://www.amptoons.com/blog/a…..lity-rate/
Mary, I also watched countdown. It is very depressing that a constitutional scholar can be so damning about the illegality of what the Administration is doing. There is a lot of people that speak out when it’s first discovered, then it just drops out of view.
There a t-shirt on the internet saying something like, someone give Bush a blow job, so we can impeach him. Is that no one cares about the Constitution?
The question in my mind about the hpv vaccine is how can we be certain it is safe? There hasn’t been much in msm (no surprise there) about fossamax (sp) also made by Merck which has this annoying little problem of jaw bone deterioration. Dentists were the first to sound the alarm. Those suffering with this side affect cannot be helped with plastic surgery & have a great deal of trouble just eating from what I have read.
How can americans have confidence in any drug approved in the last 6 years when drug company profits trump over checks and balances? Take an informal poll of friends & family, it’s amazing how many people are on anti-depressants but that’s another topic.
Profits & power trump over checks and balances in EVERYTHING now…it’s no wonder americans have no confidence..we can’t count on a damn thing anymore.
And yet, last week when he was shilling his book on the Daily Show, Jon Stewart was overly civil bordering on servility with this Ponnuru asshole.
Why does Stewart seem to have received a memo that Colbert has not?
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I miss the old body counts – why doesn’t Amerikkka do body counts anymore?
One of the problems is that Evangelicals don’t really care about life itself (except maybe their own). All they really care about is that the person is “born again”. The believe that it does not matter when or how you die, but that you die believing in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. This way, their soul gets to go to Heaven.
Barney Frank was absolutely correct when he said “Republicans believe that life begins at conception and ends at birth.” I’ve actually had conversations with conserative religious republicans where they have admitted as much (not in those specific words. In the one case, he stated that life began at conception, and because you don’t know exactly when conception happens, it begins at intercourse. He then stated that it is unimportant to him what happens to the child after birth).
It would be laughable if it were not so scary.
marily, so sorry, you read me wrong and I meant no offense. I didn’t see your comment last night. the “poem” was a tangential response to something you said on a previous thread – ironically, it was meant as supportive encouragement. clearly it missed the mark. my bad.
marily, this was my context:
Punaise … gives me a reconsent of mirth in words that allows me not to scream out the front door in a very loud voice.
“gently, drown the scream” / (gently down the stream)….meaning FDL can be the lake of calm in which you find solace.
again, sorry for the clumsy wordsmithing. please don’t take it as an affront – au contraire. and please don’t go.
rather, ’tis I who need to take a long wall around the
blogblock. A twelve (hundred) step program in de-flippancy. starting now.errr, long wall = long walk
To brkily – #123
Sorry, I missed your qn last nite. Had to go to bed at 1:30 a.m. here.
No, my brother in law doesn’t have children, and apparently has no sense of any stake in the future. Having 3 kids and having spent a good part of my life teaching low-income, minority kids overburdened with toxic exposures from local heavy industry,–and still am at age 64, I’m steeped in dealing with the disastrous consequences of mercury and lead pollution on young people’s neurological development. We can’t fathom each other. He can’t see why I’m “wasting my life,” not out there making enough money to retire early.
If I could figure out how to bridge the gulf between us without avoiding these issues, I’d sell my formula to the Democratic consultants and get rich — or at least feel I’d solved a problem, and use the knowledge to bridge gaps elsewhere.
not a plug for the repugs, nor from an EPU, but for .b.a.l.a.n.c.e. see:
http://www.harpers.org/OutOfControl.html