Comments on: Late Nite FDL: The American Chickenhawk in its Native Habitat http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:03:27 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Timmy http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/#comment-107167 Timmy Wed, 17 May 2006 13:36:23 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/#comment-107167 <p>The difference between the Yankees and the U.S. Army is that the Yankees won’t let most people join them, while the U.S. Army will.</p> <p>Isn’t Randi’s point that chickenhawks should stop being fans on the side lines, and start being players in the game?</p> The difference between the Yankees and the U.S. Army is that the Yankees won’t let most people join them, while the U.S. Army will.

Isn’t Randi’s point that chickenhawks should stop being fans on the side lines, and start being players in the game?

]]> By: renato http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/#comment-106351 renato Tue, 16 May 2006 21:02:41 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/#comment-106351 <p><i>WHY is this little shit-stain considered an authority on ANYTHING?</i></p> <p>A-fuckin’ - men! That’s exactly what I said when I laid eyes on this creep! What on earth has he done in his all-too-short life to merit a spot on Larry King????</p> WHY is this little shit-stain considered an authority on ANYTHING?

A-fuckin’ – men! That’s exactly what I said when I laid eyes on this creep! What on earth has he done in his all-too-short life to merit a spot on Larry King????

]]> By: » Blog Archive » American Chickenhawks http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/#comment-106219 » Blog Archive » American Chickenhawks Tue, 16 May 2006 19:17:54 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/#comment-106219 <p>[…] Once more with feeling! A good post from Firedoglake. I don’t know about you guys, but I am SICK of these little blue-blooded turnip-heads who have never worked a day in their lives trying to tell me that I don’t know what’s good for America. “I support the Yankees, but I don’t wear their uniform”??!! Listen, kid, we aren’t talking about a BALL-GAME here! When the Yankees lose, they don’t get taken off the field in body bags. And thousands of people in the stands aren’t being slaughtered by factions from the rival team. […]</p> […] Once more with feeling! A good post from Firedoglake. I don’t know about you guys, but I am SICK of these little blue-blooded turnip-heads who have never worked a day in their lives trying to tell me that I don’t know what’s good for America. “I support the Yankees, but I don’t wear their uniform”??!! Listen, kid, we aren’t talking about a BALL-GAME here! When the Yankees lose, they don’t get taken off the field in body bags. And thousands of people in the stands aren’t being slaughtered by factions from the rival team. […]

]]> By: Paul M http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/#comment-106205 Paul M Tue, 16 May 2006 19:06:13 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/#comment-106205 <p>Nice commentary Trex. Everyone should be listening to Randi Rhodes every single day. Mike Malloy also.</p> Nice commentary Trex. Everyone should be listening to Randi Rhodes every single day. Mike Malloy also.

]]> By: Rayne http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/#comment-106186 Rayne Tue, 16 May 2006 18:48:39 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/#comment-106186 <p>poormary (223) — thanks for checking back. If the fundamental problem is with illegality, just seems like we should be dealing with the root problem. The Minutemen types are generally racist, so I don’t think that’s an issue deserving any attention. But the issue for illegal workers is that they can’t get out as easily as they get in, and for Americans it is use of services without contribution of taxes as well as a lack of monitoring who’s coming and going. Corporations — the entities which are awfully silent in all of this mess — would probably prefer these folks were simply documented. Probably a lot cheaper to simply deal with that issue than to deploy troops in violation of Posse Comitatus on American soil.</p> <p>looseheadprop (226) — you know, any government-employed pencil pusher who actually thinks they can blow the whistle on this administration while using a traceable phone especially at work is really not smart enough to work for us. Heh. I guess that’s one way to weed ‘em out. Believe me, I was cautious about using a payphone to call the ethics department of a certain Fortune 100 company to file a complaint while I was in their employ…I’d be crazy-stupid not to cover my backside, after seeing too many people get canned for far less than a complaint about ethics.</p> poormary (223) — thanks for checking back. If the fundamental problem is with illegality, just seems like we should be dealing with the root problem. The Minutemen types are generally racist, so I don’t think that’s an issue deserving any attention. But the issue for illegal workers is that they can’t get out as easily as they get in, and for Americans it is use of services without contribution of taxes as well as a lack of monitoring who’s coming and going. Corporations — the entities which are awfully silent in all of this mess — would probably prefer these folks were simply documented. Probably a lot cheaper to simply deal with that issue than to deploy troops in violation of Posse Comitatus on American soil.

looseheadprop (226) — you know, any government-employed pencil pusher who actually thinks they can blow the whistle on this administration while using a traceable phone especially at work is really not smart enough to work for us. Heh. I guess that’s one way to weed ‘em out. Believe me, I was cautious about using a payphone to call the ethics department of a certain Fortune 100 company to file a complaint while I was in their employ…I’d be crazy-stupid not to cover my backside, after seeing too many people get canned for far less than a complaint about ethics.

]]> By: looseheadprop http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/#comment-106116 looseheadprop Tue, 16 May 2006 17:51:57 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/#comment-106116 <p>Rayne,<br /> In case you check back,</p> <p>Intell people might know better than to place a call that can be traced back to them, but an awful lot of folks at CIA are not trained in spycraft. They are analysts and admin persons and lawyers and paperclip buyers and all sorts of other things.</p> <p>And they hear stuff.</p> Rayne,
In case you check back,

Intell people might know better than to place a call that can be traced back to them, but an awful lot of folks at CIA are not trained in spycraft. They are analysts and admin persons and lawyers and paperclip buyers and all sorts of other things.

And they hear stuff.

]]> By: Mel http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/#comment-106054 Mel Tue, 16 May 2006 16:46:10 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/#comment-106054 <p>Loved the article until your reference to Duke. Are you also throwing away part of the constitution because, as a kneejerk, guilt laden liberal, whitey is guilty until proven innocent? Look at the facts in this case, would you accept a white accuser looking at photos of black men instead of using a real lineup? Hopefully not. Not only that, she was only shown pictures of the lacrosse players—and the third suspect was identified even though the victim thought he had a mustache.</p> <p>Come on–feel sympathy for a possible miscarriage of justice that will have irreperable damage to the accused–even if they get off. Remember Twana Brawley? Now, this case might be different, and the preppies are guilty of the heinous crime–and should do the time. Just don’t jump to their offense. Sounds like a reverse lynch mob.</p> Loved the article until your reference to Duke. Are you also throwing away part of the constitution because, as a kneejerk, guilt laden liberal, whitey is guilty until proven innocent? Look at the facts in this case, would you accept a white accuser looking at photos of black men instead of using a real lineup? Hopefully not. Not only that, she was only shown pictures of the lacrosse players—and the third suspect was identified even though the victim thought he had a mustache.

Come on–feel sympathy for a possible miscarriage of justice that will have irreperable damage to the accused–even if they get off. Remember Twana Brawley? Now, this case might be different, and the preppies are guilty of the heinous crime–and should do the time. Just don’t jump to their offense. Sounds like a reverse lynch mob.

]]> By: Coop http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/#comment-106026 Coop Tue, 16 May 2006 16:22:05 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/#comment-106026 <p>I don’t know why we they continue to defer to spineless little punks like Ben Ferguson if they hold mainstream positions when they clearly don’t. He’s the lunatic fringe here.</p> I don’t know why we they continue to defer to spineless little punks like Ben Ferguson if they hold mainstream positions when they clearly don’t. He’s the lunatic fringe here.

]]> By: poormary http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/#comment-105984 poormary Tue, 16 May 2006 15:52:03 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/#comment-105984 <p>Ironranger #216 “Kids are great…accepting of people & practice true democracy until so-called grownups mess with their heads. We could all take lessons.” - True, but even though I strive to be open-minded with my son, I’m know my own opinions often come across too quickly and I have to force myself to take a neutral stance and let him come to his own conclusions. (Which I might add is not always easy.):-)</p> <p>Rayne #219 - No, she did not. You know how local news shows are. It was a short clip and no telling what they cut out due to time constraints. I message I got was that she had worked long and hard to become a citizen (which is good), but that she thought others should follow the legal route. She may have very good reasons for her opinion. I would imagine not the least of them being the stress of being here illegally and worried what would happen to you if you were deported. She certainly didn’t seem to be of the “I’m here so let’s slam the door on the rest of them” mentality.</p> Ironranger #216 “Kids are great…accepting of people & practice true democracy until so-called grownups mess with their heads. We could all take lessons.” – True, but even though I strive to be open-minded with my son, I’m know my own opinions often come across too quickly and I have to force myself to take a neutral stance and let him come to his own conclusions. (Which I might add is not always easy.):-)

Rayne #219 – No, she did not. You know how local news shows are. It was a short clip and no telling what they cut out due to time constraints. I message I got was that she had worked long and hard to become a citizen (which is good), but that she thought others should follow the legal route. She may have very good reasons for her opinion. I would imagine not the least of them being the stress of being here illegally and worried what would happen to you if you were deported. She certainly didn’t seem to be of the “I’m here so let’s slam the door on the rest of them” mentality.

]]> By: melior http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/#comment-105974 melior Tue, 16 May 2006 15:45:29 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/15/late-nite-fdl-the-american-chickenhawk-in-its-native-habitat/#comment-105974 <p>OCSteve: It’s simple if you stop to think for a moment. Agitating and apologizing for the war does not make you a chickenhawk. Ducking and running from your own duty, while agitating and apologizing for the war, does. See?</p> OCSteve: It’s simple if you stop to think for a moment. Agitating and apologizing for the war does not make you a chickenhawk. Ducking and running from your own duty, while agitating and apologizing for the war, does. See?

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