Can I still make the point that we have two borders, and national security issues would seem to be served in protecting both of them. Do we even have any ides how many people enter the country from the north?

Indeed, security issues are a bilateral concern, as the traffic goes both ways.

Within the 9/11 Commission report that I referenced are several testimonials regarding what has been done to improve security while maintaining the pace of international trade between Canada and the U.S. Of course, that’s not the only source, but it is an adequate starting point.
That information also addresses the numbers game. It is my opinion that the INS has a very good idea of how many people are crossing the 49th parallel, daily …And knows who they are, or purport to be.

I would put forth the assertion that the issues with these two border crossings are somewhat different…In the case of Mexico, undocumented foreign nationals who can then be assimilated into local communities, finding employment and evading the scrutiny of the INS in doing so…And Canada, where a vastly smaller percentage of passport/visa holding foreign nationals may be crossing using false documentation for criminal purposes, such as the Millenium bomber case in the Pacific Northwest. Of course, this is a generalization, thus either state can be interchangeable save for the numbers involved.

So we have two results that require attention, both of which depend on having open and equitable relationships with either country, and being capable as a nation of addressing a complex problem without dabbling in Procrustean solutions.

This would become a deterent to illegals and perhaps save countless Florida joggers at the same time.

Am EPU’d but maybe you will chcek.
Jasaon Leapold is now saying two contradictory things. :
He says that he has two “sources close to the investigation” Which is term of art for someone IN the investgation, an agent or government lawyer, or someone specifically acting as an agent on behalf of said government person.

Then, he turns around and says one of these sources is a high ranking former State Department official. Well, that might be a witness, but it ain’t “a source close to the investigation”, unless ole’ Jason is suggesting that Colin Powell or Armitage are secretly the puppet masters behind the whole investigation and that Fitz is sharing information with him/them in a two way street.

How very unlikely is that?

Can I still make the point that we have two borders, and national security issues would seem to be served in protecting both of them. Do we even have any ides how many people enter the country from the north?

The true nature of capitalism is revealed. Greed trumps law, so we are now inundated with slave labor that don’t even speak the language.

Lou Dobbs…thanks for trying to keep our country from having to speak spanish.

Seriously there is an article I’ve had in high rotation on my local Indymedia. It’s called ‘ Reichstag security – a modest proposal’…whoops, sorry, ‘ HOMELAND SECURITY – A MODEST PROPOSAL’. ( The C-net King James version ) Inside the screensaver looking at the chimp. Thank you David Holtzman – 0ct 2002. What a headsup! I should have full disk encryption any day now!