
What an amazing opening to Hardball today. Really reflects well on Matthews:
I know I told everyone last night that the grand jury in the CIA leak investigation was going to meet today, and that we'd be devoting our entire show to the story tonight. And I know I went on Imus this morning and got everybody pumped. Sorry to say -- we got punked. Our sources were wrong, we just read The Note and didn't realize that the grand jury is scheduled to meet every Friday; whether they do or not is another thing. We apologize for getting everyone excited over nothing, our bad. We'd also like to thank Dusty Foggo for his profound bad judgment so we have something besides dead air for the next hour.
No of course he didn't say that. He just pretended like the whole thing never happened. Well, we fell for it. We should've known better. Jeff was right and I was wrong -- I would've thought a responsible producer would've checked into it a little more thoroughly before running with the story. Matthews either doesn't have one or won't listen to them. Those wanting to know more about the latest in the CIA leak investigation can find great articles on TalkLeft and The Next Hurrah, as usual.
Meanwhile over at The American Prospect, Garance Franke-Ruta has some excellent counsel for journalists engaged in adversarial relationships with left-wing bloggers. Jeebus I hope they don't take her advice, it would ruin all the fun. It's not even a party until their egos get involved, they take the whole thing personally and say something really stupid.
Nobody send it to Joe Klein, 'kay?
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051206Y.shtml
They’ve been wrong before but something tells me these tea leaves really aren’t that tough to read.
Fitz!
Perhaps Fitzo de Mayo next week . . .
Every day is a hope for Fitz!
New t-shirt design idea:
“I got PUNK’D on FDL”
Raw Story did it, too. They specifically said Fitzgerald would meet the GJ today.
Ah well. But, every Fitz thread is a good thread for me, because I learn a little more about Fitz and the law on every one.
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Keep the pressure on Congress… Talking about impeachment wakes people up… They question, it’s a strong motivator to get people thinking. It also lets Congress know how intense the dissapproval is for this President… They seem to be a little slow on the uptake. So please:
1) Sign petitions if you have not done so
2) Send a letter to Congress (both Senators & House rep)
3) Send a copy to the media
4) Enlist friends and family to help, ask them to chip in time
5) Spread the link around, email it (with a request to forward) post it on a blog, or in the comments of a news story.
To those of you who have been helping… It’s been helping… We are generating some pressure, getting people registered at moveon, getting petition numbers up, and getting letters out. I know some people hate seeing the same post repeated day after day…
Tough… It’s my job ;)
My goal here is to build increasing grassroots pressure towards the Rove indictment which I am hoping will be the final nail in this coffin. Time will tell, but it’s tangible goal.
Thanks for your patience… And help out!!!
Got epu’d (been dying to say that) but need to know……
After we (the public) go to all the trouble and expense to try and convict Rove, how long does King George have to wait to pardon him? Can he do it immediately before we have the satisfaction of seeing Karl’s ass hauled of to the slammer? (Head slap) Oh, wait a minute, since when do laws and rules apply to His Majesty? I have the sinking feeling we lose no matter what. :-(
I think the media is lost and confused and doesn’t know if they should start covering this crazy whirlwind of drama or hold their fingers in the dike and maybe it’ll stop raining. Like ya’ll said in the last thread, the powers-that-be are frozen in the headlights. (Did I mix enough metaphors?) I mean, if you are a mainstream media producer, when IS it time to change your “safe” position? And, given totalitarian reality, is it even possible to change anymore?
Kevin Drum wisely calls commenting about the Jason Leopold story as ‘blog porn’
Hmmm…
Here’s a link to a dKos diary which says “Rove to Be Indicted”
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/5/12/185526/030
Apparently it references an article at Truthout, but there is no direct link, and I have to go out right now for a bit, so can’t search.
Maybe y’all know about this already, in which case I apologize for the duplicate.
ON topic - gives us an idea of how vigously facts get checked for MSM, eh?
Off topic - why I love The Economist (mostly)
http://www.economist.com/printedition/?fsrc=nwl
i just read on kos that truthout is reporting that rove has told his boss that he will be indicted and will resign when indicted
The bacon tasted good anyway.
Consider getting punked like a practice fire drill.
A friend sent me this today and I thought I’d post it in honor of Bill Frist:
Last night, my wife and I were sitting in the living room and I said to her,
“I never want to live in a vegetative state, dependent on some machine and
fluids from a bottle. If that ever happens, just pull the plug.”
She got up, unplugged the TV and threw out my beer.
Bitch…
Bush having a prime time presser on Monday on a hot button issue ?
Ohhhhh my, It could be very well be Rove’s last stunt.
It defantily sounds “Rovian”
Guess this means the truthout story is false too?Ah well,to good to be true.
Jason Leopold at truthout.org is reporting that Karl Rove has told Bush and Josh Bolten that he is going to be indicted, and will resign when the indictment comes.
Leopold is beginning to sound a little bit like the Boy Who Cried Wolf, but that little detail gives it a little something extra. Plus the note that
Luskin has never turned down an opportunity to spin the press before. Perhaps he can no longer deny that Rove is a target?
I absolutely respect both you and Christy, Jane!!! This blog is representative of how I was raised in my dear family and the way every relationship should be! You are the absolute bestest.
My hopes have been raised and dashed and met joyously all my life– do not take any blame for any of it. FDL gives me hope!
Our time has come… in a few hours… a few days… a few weeks… we are patient!
{{{{{*}}}}} all y’all commenters and hosts!
P.S. Fitz is sooooooooooo silent. extra hug to him!
The First Snow Fall
President Bush had better hope today was not an omen for his new press secretary. After spending a couple of days zinging the media over its coverage, Tony Snow closed out his first week on the job with an off-camera press “gaggle” this morning that was, by Snow’s own admission, “just a mess.”
http://www.realclearpolitics.c....._fall.html
whats with the “Your comment is awaiting moderation.”New status qwo,or did I piss someone off?
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051206Y.shtml
Rove Informs White House He Will Be Indicted
By Jason Leopold
t r u t h o u t | Report
It is getting here folks!
“President Bush’s current low mark for public approval is 31 percent. How does that compare historically?
Resident Fellow Karlyn Bowman
Harry Truman hit 23 percent in Gallup’s polling. Richard Nixon sunk to 24 percent, Jimmy Carter to 28 percent and George H.W. Bush to 29 percent.
Faring slightly better were Lyndon Johnson and Ronald Reagan, each of whom hit 35 percent. Bill Clinton and Gerald Ford fell to 37 percent.
Approval-wise, the fortunate presidents were Dwight Eisenhower, whose low was 48 percent, and John Kennedy, who never sank below 56 percent before he was assassinated. “
So GW Clusterfuck has tied daddy Clusterfuck’s record low in the polls- but junior Clusterfuck still has nearly 3 years to go. He should blow poppa’s record away- and finally momma will sleep with him!
Me3- an educated guess as to the date of the next indictment from Fitz? Who, what charges?
Read the Ruta link. I think it forgot to emphasize the most important thing: if you say you have facts, say what they are and get them right. When you make a mistake (as everyone does), correct the misstated facts.
So don’t imply you have facts you don’t have, or say you have facts and then act like they are too obvious to present, or present conclusions to arguments that imply certain facts, and let the reader go away with that missapprehension. Don’t state vague facts that leave an inaccurate impression. You got facts, state them as precisely as space permits. If you goof up, correct it.
A slightly simplified example: there are not unnamed hords of Democrat Congressmen suspected of corruption connected to Abramoff. There are exactly none. There is one Democratic rep suspected of corruption (William Jefferson from LA), but it is unconnected to Abramoff.
I wouldn’t have gotten steamed if some pundit or ombudsperson said “Well, there are corrupt Democrats too, there is that Jefferson dude down in Louisiana who took bribes on some African oil deal.” Then the reader has the facts and can reach their own conclusion. Which would not include, for the most people, I think, that there are unnamed hordes of Democrats tied up with Abramoff. But making some vague weasel statement about “bunch o’ Dems suspected of being in cahoots with Abramoff because of…. you know… stuff…” That is not honest. But that seems SOP in some areas of corporate media.
Which network is gonna be the first to decide not to cover Bush’s prime time hullaballoo Monday?
It’s a perfect time to step up to the plate, MSM! I mean, we know that the 24/7 cable networks will cover it because they’re always desperate for something to fill up the time, but the networks have season finales coming up and with Bush at 29, the time is right!
Hmmm. I think the media were intentionally mislead about Rove. Maybe to keep the cameras away from Foggo’s house. Now Bush is giving a prime-time address on immigration? More distraction. Next week is going REALLY be fun.
DMM –
My comment’s “awaiting moderation” too.
Jeez, if I’m a bad girl, it sure would’ve been nice if I’d noticed it at the time, so I could have enjoyed it a bit… ;-)
rwcole - #19
New Harris Poll today has Bush at 29% - thought you might like some good news!
For those who are waiting for a winner in the “pick the day Clusterfuck goes below 30% in the polls,- well there wasn’t one- but “Reader of Tealeaves” came damned close with a guess of 5/10..
Congratulations Leaves!
“No of course he didn’t say that.”
LOL! I read some where a long time ago that it’s Matthew’s personal policy to NEVER retract anything or address any previous missteps that he’s made on “cable news”, ever! Actually, I think that’s SOP for ALL of them but that was specifically about Matthews and quoted him saying such IIRC.
Can anyone here imagine Chris Matthews doing this same shtick in ten years? Not a chance.
Actually, it will be quicker than that. Before 2010, Matthews will be bleating in the wilderness. When the worm turns, it will roll over him and digest him for compost.
about awaiting moderation: j*s*n l**p*ld seems to be a keyword triggering it tonight — wise choice to prevent clutter by enthusiastic newbies
Denise- yeah I saw it- thanks- but the article I posted came out before Harris was announced. 29% is a damned good start-but I think he can still beat Nixon’s 24%!
EPU’d from last thread:
Started to watch Washington Week, and gave up when Martha Raddatz said, (1) it appears most people support the program, (2) most people seem to think it is legal, (3) that’s why this seems to have died down somewhat…Martha must not get out of her bubble much. I could sort of understand if she’s not reading the blogs, but some pretty familiar names have been out there in the MSM saying some very negative things about this, so the blinders are on.
Am still waiting for some media voice to articulate that we do not decide whether things are legal or not, or whether people should follow the law or not, on the basis of polls.
Am still waiting for a media voice to articulate that the president cannot hide behind polls and use them as a substitute for oversight and judgment as to the legality of the program.
Heard someone whose name I didn’t catch on either Hardball or Situation Room, talking about how this kind of program is not likely to be one that actually catches any terrorist, that it is more likely to be a program that allows a retrospective confirmation that someone who was suspected all along is a likely terrorist. This person made the point that if this program, which has been in place for almost 5 years, had been responsible for the capture of any terrorists, the government would have trotted them out and extolled the virtues of this thing long ago.
*ilson46201,
You crack me up sometimes.
Angie I have three posts on my homepage just made for you one of them is a competitition (and I just know how much you love Barbara Bush) - now having spent a few hours writing stuff that has steam coming out my ears I’m going to vanish in a puff of smoke and try to get some sleep …
*poof*
Rhandi Rhodes is going to be on Larrry King tonight, I wonder if this Rove news will be mentioned?
as I recall, there have been only TWO indigenous ‘terrorist networks’ and both seem awfully shady and shaky: Lodi and Lackawanna. Or have all the other US terrorists simply disappeared silently?
Patrick Fitzgerald — the tantric prosecutor.
“Psst, Woodward, I’m working in the White House… at night! Hey Woodward, guess what? I’m taking questions… at night!… Look at me, I’m dodging the questions… at night! …OW! I burned my credibility!… at night! “
;>)
OT Saw Martha Raddatz spinning like a top on Washington Week on PBS. You can always tell when she’s lying because she begins to talk really fast with a slight catch in her voice. Seems the NSA is no biggy. She gives a description of a much reduced program. The only problem is the explanation she gives is pretty self contradictory. Not to worry though, the Ditz plows on citing the WaPo/ABC push poll: Most Americans aren’t concerned, story’s dying, move along. Oh and Hayden, no prob there either. I tell you if I drank as much KoolAid as she must I’d be in the can peeing all day.
Mrs K8,
Strange things afoot at the ‘lake tonight
*ilson –
But, but, I didn’t mention he-who-must-not-be-named. I DID mention the website where h.w.m.n.b.n. posts.
Didn’t know I was referring to h.w.m.n.b.n. at all.
If I say I’m sorry for whatever I did will I be forgiven? ;-)
Ok, now I really have to go out the door.
See y’all later. I hope — if my comments are approved, that is. :-)
So, RAW was going w/cable outlets all set up at courthouse. Not having cable, I’m asking if anyone knows that they were in fact there? If so, then a leaker was wrong or engaged in misinformation. We know Fitz don’t leak, so who then?
I wanna see that Ali over Liston photo again. This time with a headline like “Rove indicted; implicates others”
And soon!
Cozumel 28,
it’s Matthew’s personal policy to NEVER retract anything or address any previous missteps that he’s made on “cable newsâ€, ever!
Gee, just like W. No wonder Chris worships him.
Jane, excellent tip on the American Prospect article. I particularly liked this line:
Exactly so. Joe Klein no more represents the left or center left than Frank Fitzsimmons represented truck drivers. The moral for Joe Klein is obvious, but there’s one for us as well: If you want an organization, institution, or movement to represent you effectively, you have to be directly engaged in its operation. We need to be active in the Democratic party, and truckdrivers need to attend union meetings, run for office, etc. Hard to do, but essential.
Mark 11 — I think the best way to understand the media reaction to Bush is through seeing that a great # of broadcast media figures think of themselves as infotainers, and — as Jane has said over and over again — become terribly uncomfortable when people take politics seriously rather than as a reality show. And they have a horribly elitist/disdainful view of what the people want.
In 2000, they were convinced that The Cowboy from Crawsford was a marketable character for them — much moreso than that stiff Al Gore. After 9/11 — Holy Shit! It’s The Towering Inferno meets Shane!!!!! Run with that baby. And so they did.
Some of this is, undoubtedly, also affected by whatever comes down from on high (Murdoch, Jack Welch, etc.) and their personal warm fuzzy feelings in re: Bush (viz. Mission Accomplished homoerotica and the gushy articles about Bush being personable during campaign 2000). But mostly I think they think of it as theater, a reality show.
Now that things are turning on Bush, they’re gonna milk it for all they can get out of it (consistent with the corporate interests that pay their checks — for instance, they won’t frame Bush’s humiliation in terms of horrific neocon policies, but in terms of style — he just wouldn’t cooperate with the Congress.
Anyway, feel free to shoot this down, add/subtract, etc., etc.
look outside — it’s a full moon — things may get odd tonight.
just sayin’…
ilson46201 #42
The Lodi “terrorist network” basically consisted of a father and son and was VERY shaky. It also had nothing to do with wiretapping. It was an informant.
*ilson- t**t***t may be another node.
*ilson 52, “get”? ;)
*ilson,
IIRC there was also two more .One in oregon where they were training on a ranch. The other in the small town I live in, Washougal WA.Shooting automatic weapons up the Washougal river. Someone heard them blasting away and called the sherrif. A couple of years back.BTW, Washougal is about 20 miles east of Portland OR. On the other side of the Columbia river.
Message for Richard Morin. Paging Richard Morin
Please come to the courtesy phone
Well, I don’t feel discouraged. I think Fitzmas is coming soon. The Repubs are acting strange.
I t’ought I ‘taw a indictiment. I did! I did!
OK, immanentize?
Must dissent from the proposal to have a protest day on Memorial Day. In one swoop you lose EVERYBODY in the center over 60, who feel this is a sacrilege to dishonor veterans lost in WWII. Memorial Day is when we remember them, including my father, uncle, and cousin.
*ilson46201 says: “look outside — it’s a full moon — things may get odd tonight.”
May 12th, 2006 at 5:30 pm
Where’s Shez? What’s her opinion about Karl’s “horror”scope? *g*
mui,
Very strange, indeed.
The silence in the media on Rove is deafening today, perhaps the calm before the storm?
Anne saw your #38 and agree completely. My favorite Raddatz moment was her defense of Rumsfeld on Iraq. She said that Rumsfeld didn’t actually spend much time on Iraq because he was more concerned with the Quadrennial Review. She did this unselfconsciously. It never occurred to her to wonder why Iraq wasn’t Rumsfeld’s number one priority. He’s the Secretary of Defense, he’s got most of the Army in Iraq, soldiers are dying, and he can’t be bothered? WTF? She is just another stenographer. Give her a line and she will fall for it every time.
Official “A” - Feeling The Heat…
Did I forget to say “Happy Friday” today? ;)
Rove Informs White House He Will Be Frogmarched
“Within the last week, Karl Rove told President Bush and Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten, as well as a few other high level administration officials, that he will be indicted in the CIA leak case and will immediately resign his White House job when the special counsel publicly announces the charges against him, according to sources.
Details of Rove’s discussions with the president and Bolten have spread through the corridors of the White House where low-level staffers and senior officials were trying to determine how the indictment would impact an administration that has been mired in a number of high-profile political scandals for nearly a year, said a half-dozen White House aides and two senior officials who work at the Republican National Committee.
Speaking on condition of anonymity, sources confirmed Rove’s indictment is imminent. These individuals requested anonymity saying they were not authorized to speak publicly about Rove’s situation.”
“Late Thursday afternoon and early Friday morning, several White House officials were bracing for the possibility that Fitzgerald would call a news conference and announce a Rove indictment today following the prosecutor’s meeting with the grand jury this morning. However, sources close to the probe said that is unlikely to happen, despite the fact that Fitzgerald has already presented the grand jury with a list of charges against Rove. If an indictment is returned by the grand jury, it will be filed under seal.”
wesgpc #22 - There is one other Democrat whose name I can’t remember, but he was asked to step down. He set a non-profits and is
under inquiry as he seems to have made much too much personal money over the pastcouple of years. Doesn’t look good.
Think his name is Moloney?
I was curious as to GWB’s birthday (it is July 6). “Biography of President George W. Bush
En Español” okay, even if it’s not okay to sing TNA that way…. irony
lily (63), I hope , I hope. It’s all too strange not to have Rove’s dirty fingerprints on it somewhere, somehow.
mfi @40– love them all. thinking about how stoopid they all look to the rest of the world and to me! you and your son and the rest of your family have the right idea and are obviously working for peace. i pray for your du’s safety and soul. one day we’ll hoist an ol (no proper letter on my keyboard) either here or there– preferably both places– with lots of friends and family!!!
did you see tweety is gonna be a guest on the colbert report monday. stephen in promoing it said, ‘then we’ll find out who has the hardest balls’…
it sounds promising, esp since tweety thinks he’s so friggin hip & cool. colbert should flatten him.
Happy Friday Everyone,
Denise @ 53 & *ilson @ 42 -
the Lodi case is even worse than that - in an interview,the so-called informant made claims that Zaiman al Zawahiri (OBL’s #2) had visited Lodi ! They kept this clown as a witnes, but even first year law students say there will be an overturn on appeal -
Jane Hamsher - if it only gives you the teensiest of smiles - Tweety was totally punked - that is a brand new,’ Network Anchor -I-have-gravitas’ suit he was wearing all day today
FitzMas eve will be on a (true bill) Wednesday — the presents will be opened on a Thursday.
So it was with Scooter; so it will be with Rove . . .
lily says:
May 12th, 2006 at 5:39 pm
mui,
Very strange, indeed.
The silence in the media on Rove is deafening today, perhaps the calm before the storm?
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Or maybe the silence DURING the storm. Team Libby has to have heard the gossip that a Rove indictment may be coming down in the near future. If it does, it means that Team Libby’s defense funds are going to dry up fast. And Libby has to suspect that Rove’s already thrown him under the bus in his previous testimony. If you were Libby, would you trust Rove to keep quiet, or would you expect him to squeal like a pig the minute he gets indicted? Wouldn’t you want to cut a deal before Rove did?
jinny #66: whatever. still, that is different from implying unnamed hordes of Dems connected with Abramoff. They don’t exist. Anyone who understands Abramoff’s operation, understands they cannot exist in any logically consistent universe. Abramoff was not about everyday vote bying, it was about gigantic humongoid everfowing deeper than the ocean sea slush fund for GOP. Cunningham too, I think.
mui #58: Yeah, and reasonable centrist pundits are acting hinky too. There is one outside my office right now -it’s chews a little grass, listens to the ground, wanders in a little circle then all over again. Something is up. Must be big.
“filed under seal”
As I recall from Redd some months ago- this only happens under VERY specific circumstances- which I don’t believe apply here.
That article seems like bullshit.
You know for all Tweety’s bad points, he stood out in my mind, in Wilson’s autobiography as someone who gave Wilson the head’s up on all the malarchy. I could be wrong. I wonder if this is an attempt to discredit Tweety, since he is becoming a little like a Trotskyite to the Stalinists. On the other hand, I am extremely resentful that I sat through too many minutes this evening watching him and Joe Scarborough and some other person blame Bush’s 29% on the “immigration issue.†It’s the War, stupid Tweety! And the gas! And Katrina! And, and . . .
cbl #71
Didn’t one of the jurors also claim she was intimidated and pressured to vote guilty when she didn’t want to?
Is rover good and lawyered up yet? And will he have the kind of financial backing that Scooter enjoys? Just wondering out loud.
mui #58: you guys don’t have to send me no food. But if GW is not stuck in 20s by mid June, I’ll send the choco mints out anyway to you three.
DMM @ 5:18 pm (#19) - whats with the “Your comment is awaiting moderation.â€New status qwo,or did I piss someone off?
You apparently wrote one of the many combinations of words that make it necessary to make sure you’re not a terrorist, anarchist, or other legal liability. Join the club.
wesgpc, you’re a hoot.It’s a howlin full moon. I guess I owe you a lobster delivery or something?
ck–Well as I recall, with Libby- the indictment came down and the press conference was held on the same day.
I suspect it will be the same with Rove- because the indictment becomes public information the moment it is filed- and Fitzy wouldn’t want to be upstaged with press speculation.
If I’m right about that- then I would expect the presser to happen right after the indictment.
this quote from a tvguide q&a is good:
TVGO: Where do you go for political talk on TV?
Matthews: My hero is Jon Stewart. If I could ever get his audience… My natural audience is the red-faced Irish and Italian guys in their late fifties. People will say to me, “My
dad just died. He watched you every night.” Basic cable — we’re the best retirement deal in the world.
Denise at 77,
She was the one that was that was dismissed
Do I know you? :)
hoodoo meat at 16…It is counter-intuitive to me that Rove would “know” that he’s going to be impeached, tell the Chimperor he was going to be impeached and remain in the WH until the sword drops. I would think that he would try to put as much distance between his turdblossom-esque self and the rest of the Fourth Reich. Boy…do I hope Leopold is right, though. Sic semper tyrannis.
denise 53, what I heard about the Lodi “network” was that the initial report to law enforcement arose from an internal power struggle in the Lodi Islamic community, and had nothing at all to do with terrorism. The Los Angeles Times had a pretty decent article about it recently; it notes that the son was convicted, not for anything he had said or done, but for having “a jihadi heart and a jihadi mind.” Boy, that sure makes me feel more secure.
As for actual evidence that he was involved in a terrorist cell, well:
Other responses cited in the article are similarly vague. Color me unconvinced.
And btw there are rumors coming out about jury misconduct re: the foreman
Having taken graduate courses with Jesuits, the first woman at that time in that place, I believe that PJF will do just fine and will bring it home, however long it takes or how arduous the task. I was hoping for a celebration tonight, but I will be patient. The devil of the details is his personal angel:his amazing memory of every and all detail, and use and knowledge of the law as a very high-order chess game will win whatever day justice will grant. A man with a mission is hard to shake.
mui #76: Interesting insight into Matthews. I am reluctant to call all of these people consciously corrupt. Some are, I thnk (eg, Russert). Some may just be real deadly combination of arrogant and clueless and not very bright (Klein?). Others stuffed shirts wihout enough reportorial curiosity (the Schief). Matthews may be a kind of a head case (pathalogical need to belong to the in-crowd, whoever that is at the moment, or maybe all the in-crowds at once), clueless, or who knows what.
Looks like Tweety’s sources (re Rove 5/12 indictment) were in the WH.
Maybe Josh Bolten is as anxious to see the Rover under the bus as we are.
He’s the Man, that Josh.
No Frank Probst (73), if I were Scooter, I’d think Rove is my very, very dear best loyal friend. Heh! *mwahaha*!
You’re right, Libby shouldn’t trust Rove not to throw him under the bus.
I like thinking there’s a club –inmoderates? . Is it a BYOB club?
http://tinyurl.com/fws78
Russian Court convicts ex-Gitmo Inmates.
Kind of interesting. Russia has trials, we have Gitmo.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....02390.html
A repeat, I know, but one that bears repeating. One of those “worst of the worst†we have at GITMO. A man jailed by the Taliban as an enemy of ITS regime, and then jailed by us at GITMO for years, still not allowed newspaper or family visits.
everhopeful says:
May 12th, 2006 at 5:20 pm
Which network is gonna be the first to decide not to cover Bush’s prime time hullaballoo Monday?
It’s a perfect time to step up to the plate, MSM! I mean, we know that the 24/7 cable networks will cover it because they’re always desperate for something to fill up the time, but the networks have season finales coming up and with Bush at 29, the time is right!
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Are you kidding? How could they NOT cover this? George Bush is the William Hung of politics.
Turley this afternoon on Air America Radio (Randi Rhodes Show) was awesome.
He said he didn’t understand why the Dems rolled over on the domestic spying. (AIPAC wants them too, that’s why.)
Pointd out that the Senate has all sorts of procedural tricks not limited to the fillibuster that would allow the Dems to shut the place down until there are hearings into whether the Preznit broke the law.
Turley says no question that the domestic spying is criminal.
And, btw, Randi will be on Larry King Tonite in less than one hour.
rwcole @ 82 –
I believe I am correct; GJ on Wednesday — presser on the next.
wesgpc #74 - was just saying!
TPM have been busy again today:
SDUT: Lewis and Cunningham, “Frightening” Duo
http://tpmmuckraker.com/
May 12, 4:37 PM ET
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Clashes erupted Friday between two Iraqi army units following a roadside bombing north of the capital, and Iraqi police said a Shiite solder was killed in an exchange of fire with a Kurdish unit.
Score–Iraqi army one- Iraqi army nothing- this one could go into extra innings!
GW Clusterfuck says that things are goin well in Iraq.
CK–Well OK then! Stick to it!
I just got hold of an exclusive political paparazzi shot of Katherine Harris’ tattoos.
http://www.bgladd.com/Katherine_Harris_tattoos.jpg
Chick tattoos are SO sexy! Hers have gotta be irresistible on K Street.
Please don’t introduce satirical material where there is no indication as to its nature. “punked” misled me and than slammed me down as a complete fool for falling for it. Is this want you wanted to do to your regular readers? Isn’t this what the bloggers of the “right” do when they make stuff up and then you find out later you’ve been “punked”? Do you think it was pleasant being punked by you? What did it teach me? That I’m a fool for reading it as a serious commentary?
jinny #94: I was bloviating, it was not directed at you. Sorry.
A little snippet from the Imus interview:
MATTHEWS: [] He (Rove) keeps being hauled before the grand jury. So something is going on here with the special prosecutor. We don’t know whether he is going to clear him or nail him.
MWHAHAHAHA (learned that from RH)
stan brinton -
Chill.
According to Farmer’s Almanac full moon will be early AM east coast, but 9 min to midnight west coast.
I’ve seen bad moon risin’ I’ve seen trouble on the way…
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“• Full Flower Moon - May In most areas, flowers are abundant everywhere during this time. Thus, the name of this Moon. Other names include the Full Corn Planting Moon, or the Milk Moon.”
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Werewolves of London AOOOOHHH!
John Roberts in for Larry King.
BobbyG- where are you? how are you?
You all just make me laugh, I love it! Tattoos, indeed! still chuckling Thanks to all the commenters for making my day at times; it always means alot.
104 maybe the moon explains my mood today; double cancer ‘loony’ bird!
O.K. I am holding Joe Wilson’s book (borrowed ). I don’t want to give Matthews too much credit. On page 4-5, Wilson implies Tweety said that Karl Rove “condoned the attack on Valerie and was retailing it to reporters, whether or not he had actually been the source behind it.†Andrew Mitchell phoned Wilson as well, but Tweety actually named his sources apparently. Yes, I think Tweety may be a Trotskyite to Rove’s Stalin.
Frank Probst #93: just my wishful thinking - you’re right - would never happen!
Powerful. Impressive:
http://mparent7777.livejournal.com/8482785.html
Valley Girl, Mon Cherie, I’m home doin’ laundry and packing for Florida. Leave for the airport ~10:30, scheduled take-off at 11:59 pm, LAS to CVG to MLB, getting in about 10:50 am tomorrow, blech…
Come back late Tuesday if all is relatively OK. Got a lot to take care of. Mother is gettin’ pretty wobbly.
Kathy also has a “your message here” tattoo on her backside– bunghole advertising.
Someone mentioned here a few days ago that the indictment of a “former administration official” goes down a lot easier than the indictment of a “current” official. And under cover of the ongoing WH “shakeup”, Rove will probably leave before being either charged, or outed to all the world as a ratfink.
Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the Dem leadership want to run against Bush in ‘06 and ‘08 so of course impeachment is off the table.
If Dick Cheney turns into an Individual A in the next few weeks, events are going to overtake our dear Nancy and Co.
Big if…but that’s how I’m bettin’!
tom — chicago 111
Yikes.
Stan, I recommend that you 1. get a sense of humor 2. take a course in satire 3. within that course of satire, develop a sense of wit. It all will engage your knowledge and senses and increase your sense of harmony within yourself. It’s a good thing.
Bobby G: Laundry. Hope you are watching the spin cycle closely. All the best for your red eye trip.
wesgpc - Thanks and no problem.
Bobby–What chord was GWClusterfuck playin in that guitar pic?
OT- is Rove Bush’s Feng Sui expert? You know, rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenberg?
RE:#111
If you ain’t pissed off by now, You aint payin attention. That was a perfect litany of shame.