
It’s a tale of two pundits this morning that has caught my eye, and I feel as though I have stepped through the looking glass reading these columns.
Generally, Margaret Carlson’s faux even-handedness peppered with back-handed swipes at hapless Democrats is grating — but this morning, she has a column out that anyone in the progressive or moderate blogosphere could have written, complete with straight-forward, call it like it is language. And I found it on Bloomberg.
The second is a Peggy Noonan extravaganza in the WSJ’s Opinion Journal — wherein the former Reagan speechwriter takes the Bush Administration and GOP Congress to task for their loss of base support, and somehow manages to blame some of it on Democrats as well. But again, there are parts of this that echo things we’ve been saying all around the progressive blogosphere for months, and I think it is worth a read.
Why do I point out both columns from women I don’t generally mention in polite company for fear I’ll start speaking in swear? Because their arguments resonate beyond their usual conservative to moderate audience — and, if Democrats are smart, they’ll begin using some of this language as they gear up for elections this Fall. Let me show you what I mean.
When the Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee immediately objected to the prospect of Air Force General Michael Hayden heading the Central Intelligence Agency, I knew the president would appoint him. Nothing stiffens The Decider’s spine like someone presuming to contradict him.
In some ways Hayden, former head of the National Security Agency, is actually a high-water mark in Bush headhunting. Hayden’s resume, unlike those of Harriet Miers, Michael Brown and Michael Chertoff, is at least thematically related to the core requirements of the job….
Hayden’s nomination is one more chapter in the Bush administration’s campaign to simultaneously punish the CIA for not completely rolling over in the run-up to the war and blame it for suckering the Congress and public into the worst foreign policy disaster in a generation. It’s quite a card trick for the president and vice president to slice and dice the info to their needs, add homegrown material from Rumsfeld’s shop as needed, and then claim we were all fooled by the same faulty data.
Since then, George W. Bush’s plan on intelligence is the opposite of the old saw that if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. His is “if it ain’t broke, break it.” Then put the fix in.
Bush started by appointing former low-level CIA case worker and Florida Representative Porter Goss to replace George “Slam Dunk” Tenet. And what a heckuva job Goss did until he was shown the door last Friday….
Goss brought in a raft of political operatives from Capitol Hill who knew nothing about intelligence and everything about insulting the Langley veterans who helped end the Cold War. His strange choice as executive director was Kyle “Dusty” Foggo, who resigned Monday amid reports in the Wall Street Journal and elsewhere that he took part in poker games at the Watergate Hotel arranged by Brent Wilkes, a contractor and longtime friend of Foggo’s.
Thank goodness for what bloggers are calling Watergategate. Mere rank incompetence isn’t usually enough to move Bush to get rid of an appointee….
There is a lot more. And beyond the point that we’re really calling it "Hookergate" or "Forni-gate," which I suppose may have been too colorful for Bloomberg readers or something, the level of snark directed at the Administration is quite well done. And well earned by the hapless bunch of boobs working at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. The fact that this sentiment has made it to the pen of Margaret Carlson — well, that begins to say something, doesn’t it?
But there is also some similar, if not more distributed between both parties, disgust and snark from Peggy Noonan — a woman whose writing I often find well crafted, although I rarely agree with her reasoning and conclusions. But today, she hits a few notes that I think are worth a read and some serious thought. (And a few low notes which are simply GOP CYA, but you can’t expect the woman to go cold turkey on the Scooby Snacks, now can you?)
When you’ve been in Congress for a while, or the White House for a while, you both forget too many things and learn too many things.
You forget why they sent you. You forget it’s not that you’re charming and wonderful. You forget it’s not you. You become immersed in a Washington conversation, a political conversation, that is, by definition, unlike the normal human conversation back home. To survive and thrive, national politicians have to speak two languages, Here and Home. Actually it’s more than two languages, it’s two cultures. It’s hard to straddle cultures.
But even as you forget a lot, you learn a lot. You get crammed into your head the political realities on the ground around you–how big the minority Democratic bloc in the House really is, how many votes the other team has in what committee, where to go for legal money, how the press will react to any given decision or statement….
The Republicans talk about cutting spending, but they increase it–a lot. They stand for making government smaller, but they keep making it bigger. They say they’re concerned about our borders, but they’re not securing them. And they seem to think we’re slobs for worrying. Republicans used to be sober and tough about foreign policy, but now they’re sort of romantic and full of emotionalism. They talk about cutting taxes, and they have, but the cuts are provisional, temporary. Beyond that, there’s something creepy about increasing spending so much and not paying the price right away but instead rolling it over and on to our kids, and their kids….
A reporter told me a story a few weeks ago. He was at a meeting with an important Republican congressman. Talk turned to the upcoming 2006 elections. The congressman argued it will be better for the Republicans than people think; they’ll hold the House. He said they are better at getting the vote out. He made the case for this based on turnout figures in 2002 and 2004. They have more money. He made the case for this assertion too. And they have a message. The reporter who was there said later he noticed the oddest thing. Under "message" his notes were blank. He couldn’t really remember what the congressman said.
No wonder. How could they have a message if they’ve lost their meaning?
The oddest thing about Republicans and Democrats in power is that they always know the technical facts, always know about fund raising, always know what the national committee is saying about getting turnout. But so often they don’t know the message or even have a message. Which is funny, because they’re in the message business. They’re like shoemakers who make pretty shoeboxes but forget to make the shoes….
One gets the impression party leaders, deep in their hearts, believe the base is . . . base. Unsophisticated. Primitive. Obsessed with its little issues. They’re trying to educate the base. But if history is a guide, the base is about to teach them a lesson instead.
I have to say, it’s not often that I read the concluding paragraph in anything that Peggy Noonan has written and think "amen," but that last paragraph is something that I have been thinking for quite a while.
We went out to dinner with friends yesterday evening. We’ve just had primary elections here in WV, and at the restaurant we ran into another acquaintence who had just lost a primary by a small margin — but who was very stoic and realistic about the loss. The topic of conversation turned to politics (in that environment, how could it not?), and we were all talking about how everyone has a "throw the bums out" sort of attitude this year — but somehow, in this particular local primary, it ended up being a "vote the same people back in again, even though we’re pissed at how things are going" election.
And that’s something that I do not understand. Turn out was very low. Noonan talks about that in her op-ed, and I worry about that particular issue for the upcoming Fall elections.
Voters need something to vote for — not just someone to vote against — or they won’t get up off their butts, turn off Wheel of Fortune and head to the polls. And if the vast majority of the disaffected stay home, is there any mandate for change, or do we end up with the same old, same old?
Reader Evil Parallel Universe made a good case for what is going on with the Republican party poll numbers and the public perceptions of them as corrupt, inept, and unreliable:
At the end of the day, each and every “bad” issue for the repugs reinforces every other. So, in that sense, they are all important, and it doesn’t matter what distance you view them from. What particular issue initially captures a voter’s imagination isn’t really important, it is just important that it does – whether it be corruption, health care, Katrina, etc. And once it does, any and all other “bad” information will reinforce that original perception. It is a “game” that the Repug’s can’t win, for the simple fact that they have nothing to combat any bad perceptions with at the moment – if the Repugs are inept (e.g. Katrina), then it suports that they are corrupt (e.g. Abramoff/Delay/Cunningham/Goss-Foggo; or are in bed with the oil companies), and if they are corrupt, then it supports that they lie (i.e. the Iraq War, the outing of Plame), and if they lie, then it makes sense that they are inept; and on and on, pick your issues.
The German’s have better word than what we would call perception,(as is often foreigner’s have a better word)which word is zeitgeist. And the present zeitgeist (in its English usage) is a nightmare for the repugs that is not going to change, and which exists whether from a micro or macroscopic view.
We (i.e the FDL community or the whole left blogosphere) may pay attention to (if not harp on) certain issues like corruption, but as Cujo notes, some issues don’t need any media (i.e. personal well being (whether economic, health care, etc.). But at the end of the day, corruption and any other “minutiae” help reinforce the perception/zeitgeist.
At various times the concept of the “tipping point” has been broached. Well, I don’t know when it was reached, but I know it has been reached. Chimpco is a “loser,” and repugs in general are seen as not caring about the lives/concerns of ordinary people. That perception is what will allow Dem’s to win more than any “single” issue or even standing for something (other than “we” are not “them’).
From a marketing perspective, there is nothing left to market for the repugs. It is one thing to be Karl Rove and try to sell lies when perception is good (thanks to Clinton, ironically enough), it is another to try and sell lies when perception is against you. Sadly, it is not the lies themselves, but the actual (and perceived) failures)….
On a prior thread there was a discusion about the fall in ratings for Faux News, and the point I didn’t have time to make is that it has nothing to do with the truthiness of Faux, but the failures of the admin. It is not the lies, you can sell and promote lies so long as you are successful – like in a Ponzi scheme, it is the failures that would make people not watch Faux.
The disgust with what the Bush Administration and the Rubber Stamp Republican Congress have done to this country over the last five years is palpable — even among all the folks that I know who are life-long Republicans, you get a sense that they just want to yell at someone. And sure, that might suppress turnout among some of the less-kool-aidy, but you still have to get Democrats to the polls to vote in greater numbers than the remaining GOP stalwarts. (Which, admittedly, is a shrinking number these days.)
EPU is correct in saying that the feeling that Republicans don’t care about the lives of ordinary people is a huge blow to them in terms of voting. But Democrats need to step up to the plate and show how much they DO care about those issues — and I know they do, because I’m on the phone or exchanging e-mails with staffers and friends in the know and elected officials themselves about the initiatives they are trying to push forward. But the message gets lost, somehow, and we have to find a way to be more effective at getting it out of the blogosphere and into the rest of the country.
How do we do this? Well, that’s why I’m posting on this today — I’d like us to start thinking about that, about the reach of some of our work on things like the Roots Project here — all the letters to the editor and phone calls to radios shows that we could all be doing between now and November. And the need to do the tough work of stuffing envelopes, and making phone calls, and all those other things that push local campaigns forward.
The Republican ground machine kicked our asses in the last Presidential election — because they were more motivated to vote for their candidate than we were motivated to vote against him. I still maintain that Shrum’s enormous error in the Kerry campaign was to hold back in a "Well, at least he’s not George Bush." posture instead of going on offense in the last few months of the campaign.
The American public hungers for a change for the better. But it isn’t enough that they are disgusted with Republicans and their rubber stamping culture of corruption and lies. The Democrats must find a way to get the message across that they care about the needs of ordinary people — high energy costs, increased grocery bills as a result, the rising interest rates on all those mortgages obtained during the inflated housing bubble that are about to come crashing in on a whole lot of people…the things that John Edwards brought to life so well in his two Americas theme in talking about his conversations with his parents over the kitchen table.
I went back and re-read a post of mine from January earlier in the week – the one that just flowed out after the mining disaster here in WV — and I’ve tried to figure out how to move the things I said in that post forward. But I have been stuck, not coming up with any real answers on how to move that sort of agenda into Democratic party discussion, given the issues they have with lack of media coverage, problems with messaging from their own leadership, the issues we’ve discussed about DCCC and DSCC hunkering down instead of fighting, and everything else we talk about here regularly.
So I wanted to go to the FDL braintrust — all of our amazing readers and commenters – and see what everyone else thinks. How do we move our agenda forward? What are the best issues for this push? How do we craft a better message? Who do we have who is a better messenger? I put up a picture of Jimmy Stewart in Mr. Smith goes to Washington the other day and I still think that the nation hungers for that sort of messenger — someone who cares more about the well-being of the rest of the country than they do about keeping their job — but the question is, who fits that description?
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Fitz!
Karl is Fitz to be tried !!!
A portion of a post of mine from yesterday, the most important part of which is probably the last sentence:
“WE want Bush and the rest of the gang to pay, and pay dearly, for what they have wrought. WE want acknowledgment and affirmation that we were right about the wrongs. The folks who aren’t paying attention to the details just want things to be better – higher wages, lower fuel costs, more equitable tax treatment, an end to the drain of the Iraq war.
I think we have to look toward November as though it might be the only payback we get, as if the elections themselves were the affirmation we were looking for. I think we have to look to every local race as a building block in the foundation of a better America. If we can do that, we will automatically be better off and I think the rest will play out as it will. Most of America will be grateful if the effort is in improving their lives and not in vendetta politics that produces no tangible benefit.
I’m not saying we should just be polite and play nice. I think we have to be rude if that’s what it takes, and play to win. I think it has to be clear that the fight is for those who can’t fight for themselves – we need to be champions in the true sense of that word, and be seen to be fighting for the people because we believe in the people, and not look like we’re just using the people to get back at the big, bad Republicans.â€
I think a part of what you’re experiencing is that everyone has a general throw-the-bums-out attitude, but they also basically think their own Congressman is ok. So they go and vote for the incumbent, or they don’t voet because things are status quo in their district. You’re right: they need something to vote for. Dems don’t have the same sort of party rigor as the Republicans — and honestly, that’s probably for the best although it doesn’t help win elections — and they fight a media that isn’t interested in substance.
As one of the early Roots Project members, I am completely frustrated by our elected Senators tuning us out. We visited the offices, sent followup emails, and while the folks we met with were nice and seemed sympathetic, we’ve heard nothing back in three weeks.
I’d like folks here to think of and offer ideas as to how to get their attention and response. We worked hard at our meetings and at crafting out followup letters/emails. And we’re being ignored at present. Ideas? Thoughts?
Paul Hackett, for one – a guy who was snubbed by the DCCC for DeWine’s seat in the Senate in favor of Sherrod Brown. He’s a guy that isn’t afraid to speak his mind, even if the message is not always on target. And there have to be others like him (though few incumbents are willing to risk their necks to lead the charge)…
Fitz, don’t fail me now!
And, OT, did you catch the David Johnston story in this morning’s WaPo?
Bet ya thought all that corruption was something new and different. Nah, in the post 9/11 world, the FBI started investigating white collar crime as part of the Bush administration’s love for lawn-order and see what they found? Must have always been there, is the subtext — going on for years, across party lines — and what an even-handed and professional job they’re doing of investigating their own administration.
Hmm. Wish I could get some of that for my garden.
Issues: Accountability and transparency.
Vehicles: the blogs are great for testing and honing the message, especially when the posts and comments contain more than just snark. (Blogs cannot live by snark alone, even good snark . . .)
Going beyond the blogs requires that people, you know, *talk* to their non-blog friends, write to the local paper, and pass the best of the blog posts to persuadable others. Most if not all of us have rightwing skeletons of one form or another in our family closets . . . give them a chance.
Those are the easy questions. The harder one is the messenger. Someone who has asked tough questions, held others (and themselves) responsible – both for their victories and their losses.
I’ve got names that hold a certain appeal to me, but none that really make me go “yeah!” so I’m still waiting . . .
I think that there is a lot that can still happen between now and November. Many many more scandals will be revealed and more congressmen will be indicted. Rove will be indicted and hopefully a few more with him.
I’m not saying that we shouldn’t brainstorm but I think the outlook will be much different by November and our strategy will be outdated.
It’s what we call process over product, where bureaucracy rules. A politican gets so caught up in the bureacracy of being an elected official (and fundraising for the next election) they forget why they were elected (or even why they ran in the first place).
It’s an issue for the dems as well. And I think after 40 years in charge, they took being in charge for granted. It was only after the 2004 election that they quit thinking of it as an anomoly, and are now starting to question why they should become the majority party.
You could see it in John Kerry’s nuanced answers during the 2004 elections. Compare his interviews at the time to Dean’s. Today, Kerry still doesn’t get it. Feingold does. Hillary doesn’t get it. Conyers does. Biden doesn’t get it.
Initially, I thought this debate would be cut off prematurely if the dems win in November (it definitely would have if the dems won the house or senate in 2004). Fortunately, I think the blogs will make sure the debate continues.
Forever Republicans claimed they believed in certain things, things that would make America better if accomplished; given complete control of the government has proven that what they claim they don’t believe, and what the’ve done that conforms to what they believe has proven not to work. The largest of them is character, they claim that character is everything,it is doing the right thing, it is taking responsibility for one’s own actions. Given the opportunity to exhibit character in all the ethics scandals, to hold hearings about the war, in holding the President responsible for his actions, they have failed. It is not that they have been mislead by their leaders (well some have) they SUPPORT them in spite of all the facts. They are completely a fraud. We need to point that out and hold their entire philosophy in the light of day as the failure it really is and to BLAME them for the calamities that we face today. Constantly we need to berate their entire permise and never give them quarter for the failure they are and what they have done to us. We need to point out that the Republicans have HURT America, maybe fatally, and they are not forgiven.
What these ladies really need is a visit from sensitive, caring, Richard Cohen. Sadly, neither of them are affiliated with ABC News.
Interesting post, Christy. You cite two women authors. I was musing just prior to reading your comments how I miss Shirley Chisholm. I don’t know what that means, but I really wish we had her now.
Not sure about FEC regs these days, but one ad I would run (and reminded by your reference to the WV coal mining tragedy) is run the vid (oh, damn, is that CSpan property? Can it even be used?) well, anyway, when the guy in Bush’s mining dept. walked out on Arlen’s committee…with a tag line “They don’t care about you.”
ah, what might be…
I think Paul Hackett was and is one of the Mr. Smiths as is Ned Lamont….
Unfortunately Hackett’s campaign was silver-bulletted by the DNC/DLC. Though still in the race and scaring the be-jebus out of Joe Leiberman, Ned has a huge uphill battle in the primary.
Another bigtime fave is Louise Slaughter. She is a coal-mine country girl from Kentucky, who is a microbiologist, women’s rights activist, great speaker and hell of a vote getter in the Niagara Falls area of NYC…
Mike in Phoenix –
Agreed.
The best test of the Republicans is to look at what they DO, not what they say.
They can talk all day long about real conservative values beign superior in the abstract.
But we must remind everyone that Republicans must be judged on their record – nothing else will do.
5 years of total Republican government domination and government control have now elapsed.
A record exists for our perusal.
America has started to draw some conclusions about Republicans. And it isn’t pretty.
We need to have a convention in the early fall and that leader should be Al Gore. He’s not running for anything, but he’s the best spokesperson that I can think of besides Bill Clinton. He will be able to create the unifying theme as follos:
Genuine change can’t occur unless the Congress is under Democratic control. We must all unite for the good of the nation to elect Democrats so that our Constitutional checks and balances can be restored.
“I still think that the nation hungers for that sort of messenger — someone who cares more about the well-being of the rest of the country than they do about keeping their job — but the question is, who fits that description?”
I hate to say it, but could it be Bill Clinton? I think one of his greatest strengths is that he speaks in a way that’s racially inclusive–but he doesn’t alienate white voters. I live in New Jersey and he campaigned with Democrat Jon Corzine in the governor’s race and his (wildly popular in this neck of the woods) presence really pushed Corzine over the top. He really brings out the Democratic base, particularly inner-city voters. I realize New Jersey is east-coast liberal, but I think the Democrats really don’t use Clinton as much as they should in other parts of the country.
And what about the Oprah factor? Millions of Americans hang on to her every word. The republicans are terrified that she’s going to endorse Hillary for president (if she hasn’t already). We need to look beyond the usual tired Democratic politicos. Both Clinton and Oprah speak to ordinary people in a populist American vernacular that carries tremendous power. Why not try to learn from that?
Blank Kludge at 12 — yes, that authentic, real-world, moving things forward voice that Shirley Chisholm had would be wonderful about now. I’ve been thinking that perhaps a series of commercials featuring real people — rather than politicians — would be a much more effective and real way to move this ball forward. But how to get anyone to produce them is another story entirely…
First, we need to stop talking about how we need to talk about things, and start talking about things. Second, we need to approach our candidates and say “This is the election. The nation is craving leadership away from this mess. Lose the consultants and go for broke.” Third, we need to hassle everyone we know to vote. “Are you voting this year? How can you not vote and risk keeping in power the people who led us into an unnecessary war on false pretences? Do you know how much your share of the national debt has gone up by in the past 5 years?” Fourth, we need to give either directly to candidates, or to the DNC. The DSCC and DCCC are still stuck in 1995, terrified of the Republicans. Fifth, keep crashing the gates. Megablogs like FDL are having an effect on the media, though it might take several years before they don’t need to be hand-held while doing their journalistic duties.
NeoJoe 13, Slaughter is my congressperson and a great one. However, I don’t think Niagara Fallsians will appriciate being labeled a subset of NYC, they’re 450 miles away. There’s a hate-hate relationship between upstate and downstate, lol.
I second Dave in Livonia’s observation. That was what made Paul Hackett so appealing. I did not agree with all of the man’s positions but I did get excited by the fact that he was so obviously not a politcal shill. He had an authenticity that was invigorating and that motivated people.
I don’t feel that way about anybody else right now. The closest is Ned Lamont and he is a pale second. I believe that Rahm Emmanuel and Shuster’s manuevers to torpedo Hackett will really hurt us in 2006. Democrats have been deprived of the archetype of a “Fighting Dem” who motivated and energized people. Right now I do not see any other Dem (not even Dean) who does that.
I recall reading that while Kerry used his email list to raise funds, Bush used it to encourage people to reach out to friends and family members. I got an email from a guy I hadn’t heard from in years asking me to vote for Bush – he was obviously spamming everyone that he knew.
How do you get out the vote? Get people to reach out to their friends and family. Make it personal. How many page hits do the top 10 liberal blogs get in a day? What if every one of those people reached out to 10 people, and followed up to the point that they made it to the polls?
And its free…
A democratic voice could come from having actual Democratic incumbents use FDL as a forum to present issues or examples of the frustration of getting anything done in Congress. This latest snafu to the investigation of the NSA spying due to lack of “security clearances” for the investigator bears great scrutiny. FDL could provide a voice and support for our intimidated representatives.
Right now I’m in the midst of studying and writing about the Progressive movement in American history. The movement truly started coming together–in many ways with the same excitement as we are now beginning to feel–in the 1890s. Labor unions, settlement workers, civil rights, women’s rights, pro-immigration, conservation, anti-war, anti-machine politics–you name it. These movements had all been around for years–but they formed an alliance in the late 19th century. They started working together, in spite of their differences.
But the Progressive movement did not see the full fruit of its results for forty years–with the election of Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
We build a message with our actions. We know it will take time. We don’t see our success and failure in terms of one election. We don’t see our success or failure in terms of ending one war. We see ourselves as a movement dedicated to the process of change, not to the outcome of one event.
I’m not saying that we don’t need, badly, to win in 2006. I’m just saying that our message comes from what we believe and how we act every single day on what we believe.
How do we live our lives? What morality motivates us daily? What do we think a perfect world would look like?
Why do we sacrifice for our children? Why do we recycle our trash? Why do we give the right of way to others on the road? Why do we pay taxes? Why do we provide free schools? Why do we see it as our duty to support our elders?
We do the above because we believe in respecting human life and according dignity to all human beings. This belief means that we also have a vision of a future in which there would be no more war. No more poverty. An equal opportunity for all human beings to achieve all that they can. An embrace of globalization as long as it means that our working brothers and sisters abroad will benefit and we will not suffer–this means supporting a truly international union movement, and truly globalized environmental initiatives.
Most importantly, we have to insist that this country will destroy itself if it keeps being based on the idea that greed equals success, that abundance for some can only come from scarcity for others.
We can articulate our message in just a few words: If nobody takes too much, then there will be enough for everyone.
And above all, we can demand that those who represent us stop running away from this message, and stop running away from those who speak it and work for it every day.
I’m with Christy @ 17. Use real people. Get out from the Beltway/campaign consultant mentality.
And have the Clinton, Schumers and Emmanuels STFU.
Govenor Dean’s work at rebuilding a 50-state Democratic Party may enable developing a locally driven — but consistent — message. And the focus on the grass roots is ideal to move people to vote based on local issues. Tip O’Neil said it often: all politics is local.
Mike in Phoenix says:
May 11th, 2006 at 6:48 am
“Forever Republicans claimed they believed in certain things, things that would make America better if accomplished; given complete control of the government has proven that what they claim they don’t believe, and what the’ve done that conforms to what they believe has proven not to work…”
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“Republicans run for office on the grounds that government is incompetent. Then they get elected to prove it.”
- P.J. O’Rourke, GOP humorist
1) 15% of the electorate works 2nd or 3rd shift – Democrats should mention them in every speech and come up with some basic programs to make government work for them – perhaps having offices open 24 hours a few days a month.
2) Stop talking about single mothers like they are all tragedies. Democrats need to stop treating women like they are an ABC afterschool special even if they are in some cases. Tip you hat to the hard work of all mothers in each speech and say “I know you are busy but I have one more thing for you to do – get your butt out and vote – if you don’t vote, you don’t matter.” Increased turnout among single women votes overwhelmingly helps Democrats.
As the name implies, I am involved in local politics and I can confirm that the electorate is in a nasty, surley mood these days. I have seen incumbents returned to office by only the tiniest of margins and can only account for it by the fact that the challengers were “flawed” in some way or another.
I think that we need “angry” candidates to match the “angry voter”. Polite politics will only return the incumbents to office. Angry politicians will drive the incumbents from office. The voters want somebody who can articulate their anger…they seem to want somebody who will say “this is wrong and I’m going to change it” Of course, you had better be prepared to say specifically HOW you intend to change it but I think that can be done.
hizzhoner
From the WaPoo
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..02040.html
[…]
Bush won two presidential elections by pursuing a political and governing model that was predicated on winning and sustaining the loyal backing of social, economic and foreign policy conservatives. The strategy was based on the belief that conservatives, who are often more politically active than the general public, could be inspired to vote in larger numbers and would serve as a reliable foundation for his presidency. The theory, as explained by Bush strategists, is that the president would enjoy a floor below which his support would never fall.
It is now apparent that this floor has weakened dramatically — and collapsed in places.
[…]
But GOP lawmakers and strategists, who have reviewed a series of polls released in recent weeks, said the results confirm what they are hearing from voters: Conservatives are demoralized and defecting in worrisome numbers. The most recent Associated Press poll found that Bush had a 52 percent approval rating among conservatives; only 33 percent had a favorable opinion of the Republican-run Congress.
[…]
Karl Rove, Bush’s top political adviser, and GOP leaders are well aware of the problem and are planning a summer offensive to win back conservatives with a mix of policy fights and warnings of how a Democratic Congress would govern. The plan includes votes on tax cuts, a constitutional amendment outlawing same-sex marriage, new abortion restrictions, and measures to restrain government spending.
[snip]
Shamanic over at Shakespeare’s Sister took the liberty to re-write that last paragraph as follows:
Karl Rove, [DE FACTO US PRESIDENT], and GOP [LEADERS?] [KNOW THEY DON’T DESERVE THE TITLE ‘LEADERS’] and [ARE DESPERATE TO MAINTAIN WHATEVER BARE MAJORITY WILL PREVENT ANY KIND OF OVERSIGHT OR ACTUAL GOVERNANCE] with a mix of [EMPTY PROMISES] and [REMINDERS THAT THE OTHER PARTY ACTUALLY GOVERNS]. The plan includes [PAYOUTS TO THE RICH], [USING HUMAN BEINGS AS WEDGE ISSUES] and [ADDITIONAL EMPTY PROMISES].
Linky: http://shakespearessister.blog…..d-gop.html
Yesterday on CNN, Dem Donna B held up a $20 bill and said this is what the tax cut means to Americans making less than $75,000,and Exxon excuetives will get $41,000 back.
We need to teach Dem talking heads on tv,don’t answer the question.Just get your talking points.The Rebublicans are much better at it,than we are.
Get Dems to mention websites of blogs so more people can be informed.
If they say “Jane at fiedoglake.com asked a very interesting question on her site.She asks”—– etc”.
The future of the Democratic party is the internet user.
I don’t think that the ultimate effects of a “throw the bums out” zeitgeist is best tested in a primary election. I’d love to see some past statistical precedents, but my guess would be that the effects of an energized party out of power and demoralized party in power are going to show up more in the generals.
Leaders come and go, and are somewhat easy to attack and bring down. The Republicans campaigned against Kerry very effectively, and were able to avoid a debate on the issues. Make the issues, the Democratic Party’s vision of what American could and should be, the center of the campaign. For every mention of the Bush Administration’s crimes, there should be a concrete example of how much better life would be if a Democrat were in office.
And while I’m at it, why is there no meaningful attempt to repackage taxes as something that benefits people, instead of something that hurts them? It’s certainly easy enough to convince them to pay huge amounts of money for something that doesn’t benefit them.
Speaking of columnists, did anyone read David Brooks in the NYT today? He actually trotted out the phrase “dewy green faeries of sanity.” Whatever he’s smoking, I want some…
I definitely think real people speaking to real people is a winning strategy, and I’ve often thought that if you can relate what is going on today to how people react to and treat similar problems within their own families, you can forge a very significant bond. How do parents feel, and what do they do, when they find out their teenager has lied to them? How do they respond when the kid says, “you can’t make me!†How do they react when they realize that a product they bought isn’t what they thought they were buying, and cost a lot more than they were told it would? How would they feel if the police they called after being robbed seemed to be more interested in helping the robber get away with the crime?
In “It’s a Wonderful Life,†Jimmy Stewart’s character contemplates ending his life, and he gets the opportunity to see what it would be like if he’d never lived at all. I’d like to see ads that show what the lives would be like of some of the men and women who died in Iraq, showing the great promise of their lives and the things they might have accomplished, but for the fact that their president sent them into harm’s way on the basis of lies, with the tag line, “What’s in your child’s future?â€
I’m sure we could all come up with great ad ideas, but as Christy so correctly pointed out, funding them, making them, and then trying to get them on the air of TV stations that don’t want to rock the corporate boat is an altogether different matter.
justaguy at #20 makes a great point. Remember, people like Rove got their start from the world of direct mail and dubious pyramid schemes like Amway. But they’ve been able to make it work to their advantage. They have no qualms about asking people to, as justaguy appropriately puts it, “spam” their friends, relatives and workmates to vote Republican. In other words, they proselytize and use the hard sell. Many Democrats feel they’re above such tactics. How can we do it in a way that works (and isn’t Rove-style sleazy)?
“Put the fix in” . . . hoohah! . . . worth the price of admisssion right there!
More good news……..
“WASHINGTON — The government is secretly collecting records of ordinary Americans’ phone calls in an effort to build a database of every call made within the country, it was reported Thursday.
AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth telephone companies began turning over records of tens of millions of their customers’ phone calls to the National Security Agency program shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, said USA Today, citing anonymous sources it said had direct knowledge of the arrangement.
The program does not involve listening to or taping the calls. Instead it documents who talks to whom in personal and business calls, whether local or long distance, by tracking which numbers are called, the newspaper said.”
…….has this already been covered here? I am really losing track of the issues. every day there is something new. is this a new gooper strategery?
I would like to see some simple promises made. “If elected, I will…
…honor the First Amendment. No taps without warrants.
…fully fund first responders. FEMA or equivalent shall be a safety net for the American People, not a retirement home for political appointees.
…require full disclosure from lobbyists and politicians alike of anything vaguely resembling graft, from contributions, to parties, to trips, to transportation access, to tickets, etc…
Keep going. Look for about ten points. Simple promises for positive change that people can easily recognize in 2008 as either having been done or not done. Maybe echo the format of the Contract with America a bit.
Keep it simple, positive, and issue driven. People know how bad things are. They covet those who will attempt change.
I just read somewhere the Rovians are putting gay marriage on the ballot in five or six more states for this election.
If the Dems can’t come up with some kind of counter-issue to get more people to the polls, this particular wedge issue will again prevail.
Putting “fag haters” on church buses and driving them to the voting booth is a winning formula. (see election 2004)
For every one of theirs, we have do get one of ours (plus one) to that same voting booth.
The message has to be simple, and the voter registration and GOTV drive has to be efficient. And we’ve got to find people where they live, whether its the latino community, labor unions, PTA meetings, or wherever.
Bad polling for Bush and and airwaves full of anti-Bush sentiment is not going to win elections. Hard, on the ground, tactical work is what works. Just ask Karl Rove.
Christy, I still remember that post about the mining disastor in WVa in January, and the other day when I heard a clip of the Amber […?] speaking about the loss of her father, I thought of you and that post.
That paragraph by Noonan is so spot on that I feel like a copy should be sent to EVERY elected rep in the country.
I have been involved in a number of presidential campaigns – at both the national and the local level. The elitism of the political consultants and paid operatives is staggering – they really think that volunteers are idots and cannon fodder.
In 92, I worked at the Nat’l campaign for Jerry Brown in Santa Monica CA (even back then I was not a big Bill or Hillary fan, but I voted for him anyway in the general). Joe Trippi of Howard Dean fame had a big role in that campaign (remember the $100 dollar campaign limit? Was strictly, enforced, if someone sent – over time – more than $100, they got a refund!). So it all started out as a great grass roots effort, like the later Dean campaign and as soon as the media and the electorate began to wake up and take notice, the paid consultants with their TV buying campaigns (and as an active working brigade of volunteers was reduced to sitting on their hands) moved in and derailed the entire thing. It was a tragic thing.
So unless a politician is willing to really CARE about what people think, to care enough to really listen and respond (people are alright with disagreement, as long as they are not treated like children) – no one is going to trust them. They lost trust in the old Dems (of the Tip O’Neil era) for this reason. Now they have lost trust in the Rethugs. If someone doesn’t capture their imagination and get them out to vote for something REAL then the 2006 elections might show one of the lowest voter turnouts in history for a mid-term election. And that his a perfect prescription for the rise of a real facist state.
And Oprah? Endorse Hillary? I still haven’t forgiven her for endorsing her good friend Maria’s hubby for gov of California.
How to get out the message that Democrats actually care about peoples’ lives and well-being?
How about just saying it? How often do you hear a Democrat say something to the effect of “I know things are rough out there and the middle class is getting squeezed?”
That’s all John Edwards did, and it was effective.
If citizens just heard someone acknowledge it for once, that would be a huge step. Republicans sure aren’t gonna say it – they created the problem.
On my music blog, I’ve been discussing the potential power of iterative exponential “viral marketing.” Same principle of exponential growth applies to this topic.
See http://santafeandthefatcityhor…..ur-or.html
A mere 25 iterations of an “each one reach two” campaign gets you to 67 million people. Persuade half of them to do/vote X, you got 33.5 million converts.
Tom DC/VA 18
“First, we need to stop talking about how we need to talk about things, and start talking about things.”
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So true. Reminds me of the scene in Maltese Falcon where Bogey meets Gutman (aka ‘The Fat Man’) for the first time. Gutman says, “I do like a man that likes to talk.”
http://tinyurl.com/a6erq
Help Impeach Today
Now… People think this is a waste of time because even the Dems said that they were not going to impeach (yeah right)…
Keep the pressure on Congress… Talking about impeachment wakes people up… They question, it’s a strong motivator to get people thinking. It also lets Congress know how intense the dissapproval is for this President… They seem to be a little slow on the uptake. So please:
1) Sign petitions if you have not done so
2) Send a letter to Congress (both Senators & House rep)
3) Send a copy to the media
4) Enlist friends and family to help, ask them to chip in time
5) Spread the link around, email it (with a request to forward) post it on a blog, or in the comments of a news story.
Help out!!!
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I think Al Gore can and should deliver the message. I believe this country is ready to be educated about environmental catastrophy and dependence on foreign oil, and is ready to make the sacrifices necessary to solve these problems not with a quick, bandaid fix like those being trotted out by both parties right now, but with a comprehensive energy policy. It will take a leader with conviction, knowlege and courage to do this, and I think Al Gore is the man.
On C-SPAN this am. I heard a small bit of a story read from a newspaper. Rohm Emanuel stormed out of Deans office full of explitives. Apparently the tiff was over Deans arguement to rebuild from the roots up. I want to know more, and be ready to let romshums know we have Deans back if this arguement is taking place. Crossing fingers.
There are stories all over the press this a.m. reporting that NSA collected the phone records of up to 200,000,000 Americans. This is a big one. check any news service. All have it.
Of course, as on-the-ropes as the GOP is, they are still operating true to form 24/7 to stifle, bully and cow reporters – especially now, I guess, it’s imperative for them to make sure the media are properly scared to death of rethug wrath – before the MSM actually start reporting the truth and the entire party ends up behind bars! Feeling the heat, Ted?
From rawstory:
Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) is filing a formal complaint with chamber officials regarding what he considers an “unethical†broadcast of an interview with him by a CNN reporter Tuesday. In an incident that could have repercussions for TV journalists’ access to the chamber, Stevens is furious with CNN correspondent Joe Johns for an interview conducted outside the weekly GOP policy luncheons, but far away from the usual bank of TV cameras set up for such interviews next to the storied Ohio Clock.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0511.html
I have said this before on this very blog and elsewhere, and many times I am berated or chastised or accused of being just like them… The “them” of course being the Rethugs and their enablers….
I will say it again…..
WE MUST EXPOSE THEM AND THEIR ACTIONS TO AMERICA FOR WHAT THEY TRULY ARE.
WE MUST DO THIS WHENEVER,WHEREVER AND HOWEVER WE CAN.
WE MUST HOUND THEM RELENTLESSLY.
WE MUST PUMMEL THEM AND SHOW NO MERCY.
WE MUST NEVER FORGET OR FORGIVE THEIR CRIMES.
The Democratic Party should demand: a living wage for all employees, union membership as the default setting, and a model uniform code requiring internal union democracy.
Christy 17 –
Not sure what you mean by ‘produce’ but we could junk the Lotus 1-2-3 model, and use locally created FDL types to post vid on YouTube, etc. I hear NedHeads are bangin’ – plus didn’t Colbert get 2.5 mil hits in 48 hrs before CSpan pulled the plug?
just thinkin’…
That person would be Feingold. I am SOOO ready to do my part here in SW Virginia to support him and his message. I believe that there really is no one else who has the connectedness to the average American as does Russ. And he has the history of his votes, all of which (well, the important ones anyway) were spot-on at a time when others were vying to stand upon the podium of ‘go-along-to-get-along’ (e.g., Patriot Act, AUMF, Censure). Dare I say Gore/Feingold ‘08?
You know, when I talk to most people I hear and sense a lot of hopelessness and despair coupled with a deep seated anger. Even die hard republicans are feeling it wrt to the war and gas prices. Democrats are simply exhausted from all the scandals that come to naught. You find out another and think “this’ll be the one!” and the next day you wake up and it is business as usual, they got away. Thus, we Fitz!. And grit our teeth and do a heckuva lot of ‘praying’.
Last night I went to bed with the NSA horror firmly embedded in my brain and tossed and turned and slept hardly at all.
We have to give the people hope and truth. Plain and simple– do you like the way we are behaving in the world? Do you feel safer? Do you want to be a force for good? Do you want your country to be the best it can be? Do you want to ensure your children’s and grandchildren’s future? Do you care about your elders? Do you care about your soldiers? Do you care about energy and the abuses of our beautiful blue planet? Do you care about your Constitution and Bill of Rights?
Al Gore has the voice. Dr. Dean has the voice. Russ Feingold has the voice.
Scarecrow made an excellent point yesterday, that something spectacular on the Senate floor should happen… so spectacular that the other networks break away from their normal drivel and cover it. Feingold should lead it today, in view of Hayden’s nomination and the abrupt stop to the investigation by DOJ. Leahy should do it, Kennedy, Byrd, Durbin, Boxer and Reid, too. It is past time. There should be no further work done in the Senate until Specter, Roberts, Frist and the rest are exposed and shamed into doing what is right. The other vacillating dems who claimed to want an investigation (along with a few republicans who expressed the same) should be high on top of the censure wagon right now. Our last and only hope for accountability is for the Congress to do its job and use their neglected powers to put the administration in it’s place as a co-equal branch.
We now have the tyrannical dictatorship that the founding fathers feared. Nothing is more important to rectify.
2004 ELECTION WAS STOLEN — most people who don’t watch Fox News believe.
http://www.opednews.com/articl…..ction_.htm
Poll: 2004 Election Was Stolen; according to viewers of all news networks except Fox News
by Rob Kall
http://www.opednews.com
In the first poll of its kind, OpEdNews.com, in the second OpEdNews/Zogby People’s poll has learned that except for viewers of right wing news show, Fox News, poll respondents believe that the 2004 presidential election was stolen.
Overall, the poll found that 39% said that the 2004 election was stolen. 54% said it was legitimate. Shortly after the election, the NY Times suggested that a few fringe extremists and bloggers were concerned about the theft of the election.
But let’s look at the demographics on this question. Of the people who watch Fox news as their primary sourc of TV news, one half of one percent believe it was stolen and 99% believe it was legitimate. Among people who watched ANY other news source but FOX, more felt the election was stolen than legitimate. The numbers varied dramatically:
Here are the stats by network listed as first choice by respondent and whether the respondent thought the election was stolen or legitimate.
Network Stolen Legitimate
ABC 56% 32%
CBS 64% 31%
CNN 70% 24%
FOX .5% 99%
MSNBC 65% 24%
NBC 49% 43%
Other 56% 28%
On the NSA phone calls database:
Y’see, if these numbnutz morons couldn’t connect the pre- 9/11 dots they documentably had, let’s GIVE ‘EM MORE DOTS!
Brilliant!!!!
Let’s give ‘em EVERY FRIGGIN’ DATA DOT IN THE NATION…
Why, if we just had ALL of the hay, we’d know EXACTLY where the “terrist” needles are — they’re RIGHT THERE IN THE HAY!
Brilliant!!!!
http://www.bgladd.com/Total_Information_Awareness
I’ve already done my patriotic part:
http://www.bgladd.com/Total_In…..eport.html
Oh, well, at least the Today Show is abuzz with American Idol shit this morning.
I’m thinking back to Lakoff’s paradigm of the strict father who says this is a scary world and I will protect you but you have to follow my rules and do as I say vs. the nurturing parent who says this is a scary world but it we all work together we can get through it and make it better.
The politics of fear is what the thugs have been selling us for 6 years. Chicken Little isn’t working as well as it did. But there is a HUGE mess that the policies of fear and greed have made. It’s going to take a lot to clean it up.
The dems have to say to the ‘mercan people “we’re here to help lead you out of this morass and back to a state where we respect the law, treat people fairly, don’t cheat and we will protect you. We can’t do it alone, we need everyone to pitch in and if you help us, we will make things better for you, your children and your children’s children.”
We so desperately need hope and not fear, but we also need commitment and truth telling. We need a leader and we’re not seeing anyone stepping up to fill that void. Most of them are too busy with their polling consultants and focus groups.
Russ is showing signs. Boxer, Conyers, and a few others but they take two steps forward and one back way too often.
Peggy Noonan is an alien from the planet 1957. The Republicans should stuff her and place her in a dusty corner of some country club.
Who fits the description? How about Al Gore? He knows the message and he’s found his voice, and he’s not afraid to use it. He’s got nothing to lose by “playing it safe,” because he’s already lost everything. He’s immunized against the consultants.
He Knows.
Unfortunately for most of todays politicians “perception” and “reality” seldom converge. For the minority of us who choose to trudge to the polls, voting has become a drudge between casting our ballot for someone we don’t like (the least likely to disappoint) or staying at home. Sadly (perhaps rightly) many people don’t see the difference. Thinking about the front runners Senators McCain and Clinton in a face off in 2008 is at best boldly boring. And at worst, alarmingly frightening. No wonder Americans are an unmotivated lot, disgusted by politics. But Americans are in the end, to blame for this dismal situation. I’ll vote in ‘06 and ‘08 just like I always do. And I’ll stuff envelopes, make phone calls, send emails and write letters to the editor. But the suffocating scent of futility these days is always with me.
As far as what “the message” is; no need to trip all over ourselves trying to get that figured out. Tell the truth. Tell it like it is. No need to strategize that. People are starving for truthtelling, recognize it when they hear it . . . and will turn out and vote for those who are speaking it.
GREAT POST CHRISTY.
Hidden nugget tho — LOW VOTER TURNOUT, APATHY.
Same here in Chicago. Record or very low turnout for a primary. We had a reformer running for county board chair against a very corrupt man — in the hospital with a stroke who made no appearances in the week or two before the election.
We had reform minded judges running against unqualified party hacks but we still had low voter turnout (AND DIEBOLD MACHINES THAT DIDN’T WORK.)
WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON GETTING PEOPLE TO VOTE. GETTING THEM TO THE POLLS, MAKING SURE THEY VOTE.
This is what the Dem Party’s machine does here in Chicago. They steal, are corrupt, but boy do they get their voters out.
With all this crap going on that really matters it’s hard to believe voters are so apathetic but it’s like the worse it gets the more they say, “oh, well, that’s just politics — politicians are all corrupt. That’s why I don’t vote.”
Maybe ideas don’t matter at all. Getting people to vote does.
af: Beautifully said.
I posted this last night but think it is germane to today’s discussion…
I humbly suggest that everyone take a minute, go over to the SmirkingChimp.com, and read this article by right-wing radio host Thomas Eddlem.
http://smirkingchimp.com/artic…..mp;order=0
IMHO, the old Kautilya maxim “my enemy’s enemy is my friend†is one we should not forget as we try to rid ourselves of these cretinous bastards in the White House and Congress.
GOTV is all. Seems to me the new leadership will come out of the governors’ offices. Brian Schweitzer, the governor of Montana, is high on my list–rancher, articulate, forceful, plainspoken. Blue collar bona fides in a red state. Just listen sometime to his talk about how the Texas Oilmen are screwing the northern oil patch producers while subsidizing the middle east. [as he did recently on the Ed Schultz Show]
Old joke around here that the cold weather drives the riff-raff out, hence the two Dicks–Cheney and Armey–moved to Texas.
And as my daughter noted in her teen years in another context…his first name’s Dick, well that’s appropriate. Who knew, she was a budding snarker way back then….
“How do we move our agenda forward?”
It’s simple, really. We need a human being to personify it. We have plenty of good ideas; we have framing experts by the gross; we have built an effective progresive infrastrusture. What we lack is the human face of our movement.
And sadly, no anti-incumbent wave is going to change the tides unless we have compelling alternatives, which we by and large lack.
Two weeks ago, 350,000 people walked down Broadway to protest the war. I don’t know of any high elected official who walked.
Our Dem leadership is either missing in action or actually at odds with our program. Until we have actual humans to personify our message, we will flounder as the conservatives did in their bad old days before their saint Ronald Reagan.
Unfortunately, it’s as simple, and difficult, as that.
If what I heard from my congressman on Saturday (Latham R, IA-4) is prelude, this is what we are going to hear: Your GOP rep is playing nice with the delegation from his state, Ds and Rs, for the benefit of all you good people that we represent, and despite what you have heard about the partisanship in DC. This from someone who votes with his party 94% of the time.
I think his speech says that GOP polling is identifying perception of partisanship as a problem. It says that Democratic candidates should make every effort to tie the GOP candidate to his party’s record of failure and corruption.
On the question of who is a better messenger, I suspect that there are congressional candidates across the country who fit the description. I think that what Feingold’s PPF and Boxer’s PAC for a Change (and others) are doing is useful, in that they are raising the profiles of otherwise obscure citizens who are running for Congress against tall odds. This site did this for Ciro Rodriguez, although the main focus was on what a creep his opponent was.
The personal stories of some of these folks are really inspiring. In this district, we have a doctor (Spencer) who gave up his practice to run because he is worried about his country. There are many others. Sestak, who is running against Whackjob Weldon, comes to mind.
By talking about who these people are, we help others make a connection. We talk about getting out to help stuff envelopes, but the reality is that the people who have always done that will still do it, and the rest need a little inspiration. Maybe you could invite a few of them to guest post, the way TPMcafe does, and run a picture. Let them make the case for being a better messenger.
I think it is too easy for the media, the consultants, and we ourselves to refer to “the Democrats” as if they were an “it,” and not a group of real people connected by political affiliation and (in some cases) core beliefs. Voters don’t connect with an “it.” They want to see a real person who cares about them, and their concerns.
RevDeb 56 — excellent. And Christy, the master post is outstanding. GOTV is what matters. And a reason to vote is vital. Jonathan Alter’s new book on FDR offers an excellent history on the politics–and power–of hope.
Hmmm, why did my earlier post get sent to cyber-limbo awaiting moderation?
Great post, Christy and thank you…
Jim McDermott has a great post up at HuffPo:
>>>>>>>>>
When in doubt, they try to make you afraid.
When unpopular, they try to make you afraid.
When they are losing their hold on power, because of their record, they intend to make you afraid.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..20747.html
I agree with Via at #45 that Al Gore is the man to deliver the message.
I think banners are very important. Who can ever forget the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner behind Bush? I think it would have to be something that speaks really loud–to both parties. Something that will tend to unite Americans once again. I believe that one of the very worst things about Bush is what a DEVIDER he is and was for our country rather than a Decider.
What would a banner declare to reach out to citizens of every party and every walk of life? Mission Possible?
Christy
I hope to see a follow up on Janes previous thread.
The illegal classification of the Names of memebers of Congress who have been briefed in and the pass the hot potatoe method of stonwalling the investigation into felonious violations of FISA and the Patriot Act need to be flogged daily until they get some traction.
The MSM are not going to understand the legal issues on their own. You know they lurk here. Give them some guidance.
You and Jane have a real opportunity to frame this issue.
PS: Great Post Redd!
I’m not seeing a word about national healthcare here, have we given it up for lost? Because healthcare is the driving terror of my existence.
It has to be unlinked to jobs. Small businesses can’t compete with large corps because they can’t offer healthcare. Ours did, then it couldn’t. We couldn’t afford to pay people on the books because of workmen’s comp. ALL of that has to be brought under a national healthcare plan that encompasses EVERY American. At that point, our smaller, more inventive businesses can begin to thrive again. Right now, they are being choked, and prevented from hiring the best people for the job because they can’t offer enough in benefits, even in the short term.
All the Republicans have given us is terror. Terror of strangers. Terror of illness. Terror of the future. Terror of being left to die after a hurricane or tornado or tsunami or bomb. They thrive on our fear.
What Democrats have to offer is RESPONSIVE GOVERNMENT. With effective checks and balances. Now, how do we propose to phrase that?
Well said Angie!
WRT Peggy Noonan’s reporter friend whose notes were “blank” under message- easy to fill in that blank – Fear.
As for Margaret Carlson, nice to know she is having a lucid moment. I’ve been ignoring her for years; ever since she wrote a story about a friend; who was shocked and appalled to find the story that she told of her life eradicated and refabricated.
Might this be the Colbert effect?!
I like the fact that you and Jane have been pointing out all the women journalist and bloggers. On just a very basic gut level I’ve thought for a very long time that many of the problems we see in politics and journalism are due to there just being too much testosterone in these fields. Its almost as if sometimes these guys get into a metaphorical “pissing matches†with each other and what inevitably gets lost in the mix it the truth, or at least objectivity, it becomes all about “winning†and scoring points or what have you. Most of my favorite bloggers and journalist and hell politicians are women (and I’m a man btw), you two, Katrina Vanden Heuvel (sp?), Janet Napolitano, Helen Thomas, I could keep typing. I love it when you ladies loft well crafted an estrogen bomb into the “good old boys clubâ€. They never really understand what hit them and just get flustered, Podhoretz and Richard Cohen recent outbursts being the latest examples on a typical male response . Keep the fire lit, it is fanfrickin’tastic to watch.
Oh, and Janet Napaltano for U.S. President in 2012 (We need her here in AZ till then!).
Sorry this is OT, but this NSA thing is really bothering me…
If I read the USA Today article correctly – and it’s hard to know for sure in this upside-down world we live in – “surveillance†doesn’t begin without court order. Now, a court order requires probable cause. Seems like the probable cause is emanating from whatever pattern can be derived from this vast database of numbers called (assuming that warrants are actually being obtained – which may be a leap). Also seems like the numbers, all by themselves, mean nothing until it is known who is being called, and by whom. The information which forms the basis for probable cause has to have been obtained legally, I think, in order for the information obtained under warrant to also be considered legal – something about fruit from the poisonous tree, I think.
So, is it legal for these telecom companies to “contract†to provide the telephone numbers? Having been granted access by the companies, is further investigation – as to the persons or households/businesses making and receiving the calls – also legal?
They can talk all they want about not having listened in on calls, but I’m guessing that most people will figure that if the NSA will go to these lengths to obtain telephone numbers and calling histories, they probably aren’t going to restrain themselves from taking the next step.
Reading this post reminds me of listening to my husband going on and on about peaking too early in the season and cratering in the play-offs. While on one hand it is good to see some conservatives coming to their senses, I worry that somehow (come hook or crook) they will be inspired to clean their own house with some of the same messages progressives hold near and dear, appear contrite and say give us another chance. Nothing actually changes, but they campaign on our message to help them get reelected and then it’s back to business as usual.
There are so many true conservatives out there who are fed up but don’t want to leave their party. How do you reach them? I’d like to know, because to us it is the issues, but to them it is a turf war. At least that is my take on it here in Texas (Home to many former Democrat turned Republican politicians.)
Perhaps I’m jaded. Life ain’t easy in a Red county in a Red State.
Hi Christy, I live in Jeffeson Co. and did not vote Tues. mostly because I had no idea who the candidates were, but also beacause I did not trust the process. Since I didn’t vote, I don’t know whether my polling place uses machines or not, but if they do I’ll be damned if i’ll use them.
I am looking forward to November, though!
I think the core issue of getting the message out is MONEY and RATINGS. And as oregondave says, the truth.
Thanks, Dru.
Monkeywrench– love it! “a well crafted estrogen bomb…”
Oh and make that ticket Napolitano/Feingold 2012
Does low primary turnout help Lamont? His folks are motivated to show up, Joementum’s aren’t?
Susan in Iowa–great comment also. The charisma factor. Giving voters real people to connect with, people in their own sphere. Give ‘em STORY. All of us with our lizard brains sit around the campfire and keep the ghosts and goblins away with story. It’s as old as time, and all the minutae and pontificating that the Dem politicans do can’t hold a candle to a heart-tugging story.
You think there isn’t a story to be told that can counter the anti-gay smear campaign? Pick a kid talking about his family…..
I keep going back to Ralphie in Gene Shepherd’s Christmas Story…you just gotta smash right back in the gut of the bullies.
Redd,
Yes, yes and, yes. and, waiter, i’d like lots of gravy with my biscuits.
One quibble with his almightyness:
Zeitgeist does not mean perception. It means “the spirit of the times. Zeit = time, geist = spirit.
Perception, in German, is usually Empfindung or Wahrnehmung.
I think in order to have success at the polls, any political organization must first have success at organizing itself. Blogs are a great way to organize tech savvy folks in the medium they are most comfortable discussing politics.
Why not take a page from the GOP playbook and organize at the grassroots level? I know this sounds easier said than done, but if you look at HOW the GOP came to power in the last decade, you will see there was a concerted effort to conduct outreach to religious folks, gun owners, NASCAR dads, soccer moms and so forth.
For all the bloviating the GOP does about individualism, they sure spent a lot of time preaching to groups of identifiable target demographics. The Dems need to do the same, and stop assuming the individual is logical and reasonable enough to break from whatever pack mentality they have adopted for themselves.
There is a real hunger for political discussion in this country exemplified on both the Left and the Right. Perhaps something as simple as a coffeehouse political discussion group could emulate the effects that GOP members of bible study groups had in the 90s.
Maybe the next time little Sally has a soccer match the discussion of school gossip could instead turn to the crimes of the GOP. Or maybe the next cookout with people from work could include a discussion of the local candidates for office and the things they bring to the table instead of discussing American Idol for an hour.
People do want to discuss these things, but the Dems have not done a good job of using social situations to discuss politics for a very long time because there has been a reluctance to discuss politics socially. The GOP has made use of social situations for political discussions for decades to great effect.
There are a lot of good points in the comment from EPU that you extensively quote. But it seems to me that a central pitch in the campaign for every open Senate or Representative seat should feature the following theme:
- There is one vote that whomever is elected will make in Washington that will dwarf all others in importance, and that is the vote they will cast in early January, 2007, to determine which party will organize the House or Senate. No other vote the successful candidate will really matter. If the Republicans retain majorities in both houses it will be open season on the Constitution and the Treasury for another two years, and the damage to our country will likely pass the tipping point to the irreversible, if it hasn’t done so already.
- Therefore, the personal congeniality, integrity and competence of the candidates for office are distant also-rans in importance to their party label.
- If the Democrats win majorities in at least one House, investigations will be conducted into the facts of the controversial actions of the Bush-Cheney administration, especially, but not limited to, the apparently unconstitutional domestic surveillance, war profiteering and detainee incarceration and interrogation policies. If the House has a Democratic majority, the party will, if the facts unearthed by the investigations warrant, not hesitate to proceed to introduce the appropriate bills of impeachment. They will also put the teeth back in the mouth of the Ethics Committee(s) and seriously investigate alleged malfeasance of any member regardless of party.
- If you vote for a Republican and that party retains its majorities, you’re voting for more of the same Rubber Stamp Congress.
hmmm. from raw story:
72 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS JOIN LAWSUIT
AGAINST WIRETAPS… DEVELOPING……
cbear 63 – Whoah, that is a stunning article!
I want the person who said this:
I want the person who developed this “Global Marshall Plan”:
This person wrote about these things in a book published back in 1993, while an officeholder. This person has the foresight required to lead a nation into a newer and better vision of the future. This person understands that most of the wrongs we face are those bound in spirit and values, from the corruption we see in the current administration, to the results we see in the environment around us.
And this person is already well on his way to making his case, through a medium that the right has not yet completely corrupted.
This person gives speeches that are barn burners, at least one having been sponsored by folks on the right.
Finally, this person has the gravitas that is his alone, being the duly elected President of the United States: the Honorable Al Gore.
[* source: The Reinvention of Work, by Matthew Fox]
OT– Dodd on the floor screaming about the conference report on the tax breaks….
Anne
In the good old days (back when we still had a right to privacy) you did not need a court order to track the phone numbers that people called. You did not need probable cause.
What you needed was a device called a Penn Register.It would be put on a line at the switchpoint and would record on a paper printout all the phone numbers associated with that phone. Boy am I showing my age here.
In order to have the phone company give you access to the switch point you (you being the law enforcement agency needing the information) would send the local security office cheif of the local offic eof you telco a letter informing them of the number you want to place the trap on and requesting access to the switchpoint.
Here’s the thing. A given law enforcement agency had only so many Penn Register machines. They were big an bulky and easily broken. You needed a cop or agent to go retrieve the paper tapes (they were like old fashioned ticker tapes). You needed someone to service the machine with new paper and ink.
The sheer logitical obsticles, plus the damage to your own repuation and career 9and hopefully you own inate decency and personal rectitude) kept law enforcement professionals from abusing the phone trap authority.
Today, it’s jsut a computer program. Takes a couple days to install then it’s all automatic. No work. No logistical obsticals.
Does anyone here think Genreal Hayden’s inate decency or personal rectitude would stop him from abusing phone traps?
Does anyone think such abuse has damaged his career?
Well, I’m mostly just an old curmudgeon, and might not be qualified to answer those questions, but I don’t think Democrats can win by emulating the successful tactics of the repugs.
The reporter records, yes, they have money, yes, they have organization, etc., etc. But, it all comes down to one thing–they have all the things which have turned Congress into a whorehouse with an ATM in the parlor instead of a piano player.
And, here I think is the crucial difference. The repugs can say and do anything to win. They’ll piss on your head and tell you it’s raining–with an absolutely straight face–and then warn you the rain could turn into a hurricane soon if you don’t vote for them. They can take huge sums of cash, legal and illegal, from polluters and then happily write legislation favoring those polluters, and put a smiley-face short title on it that’s intended to deceive the average voter. That’s a core value of theirs, and everyone knows that.
Many Democrats have a little problem with that–but they still think they need that big money to win, and they also know that there’s an implicit quid pro quo if they take it–that’s why so many Democrats continue to vote for very bad repug-generated legislation, and why they continue to vote for highly-conservative justices (because those justices will reliably hold in favor of business, rather than workers), even if Dems don’t like the social conservatism that tags along with those justices. If they aren’t getting big corporate money, in one way or another, they vote in a way to encourage that money. If they are getting it, they know they won’t get next election cycle if they don’t vote in a certain way. Or, they’ll play the Lieberman game and vote something or someone out of committee, and then vote against it on the floor, knowing that the bill or candidate is assured passage, so they can have it both ways.
Democrats can’t have it both ways and win consistently. Can’t be the party of the working class when they run from charges of “class warfare,” or when they hedge their bets and vote for pro-business legislation that hurts workers. They can’t vote for bankruptcy reform which favors only business and then say they’re the party of the common man.
Nor can they vote for wars of opportunity and then say they were tricked into it.
The only way I see them winning is if they repudiate the money that’s corrupting them. It’s harder to find small money, but groups like MoveOn proved that it can be done.
The DLC people are doing everything they can to convince Dem candidates that they can’t win without the support of big business. When that happens, the only assured winner of any campaign is the big business contributor, because he wins, no matter what candidate wins.
The short reply: Dems can’t have it both ways. Everyone knows that the repugs are in the pocket of business. Dems need to harp on that, accentuate it–Republican tax cuts benefit fatcats and hurt poor people, wars of opportunity benefit war profiteers and kill ordinary people, wars for oil benefit oil companies, etc. But, they can’t do that if they’re also trying to get their share of that corporate money pie. Hypocrisy smells worse than skunk spray to the voter.
IMO, the questions need to be framed in simple and inflammatory terms.
The Republicans shoot low for a reason, most of the citizens don’t spend their idylls in their ivory tower sipping sherry with pinky raised. Democrats, as an institution, overintellectualize and overexplain a lot.
Go for the gut and hit hard…‘America is less safe, financially, legally, and physically.’ Tell them why, simply and loudly. Tell them what will be done to correct these maladies, and don’t worry about the Republicans ripping off the ideas…They’re paralyzed with the stasis of corruption, and that fact needs to be highlighted as a dismissive part of any ‘on-message’ rebuttal.
Then live up to your promises, like adults.
Undercut the enemy with love, every uncaring misstep should be reframed with a positive alternative that is workable and will be made a priority. Give the people a reason to vote for your candidate, because it will benefit them, and make sure it’s understood how that benefit occurs.
It’s time to show the spiderweb, concisely…This is the third ‘up at bat’ for some of these actors, (Nixon, Reagan, and Bush I administration), and every time they’ve come to the plate somebody got the bat up their hoo-hoo.
Kerry dropped the ball on this, he knew about the machinations of Iran-Contra and BCCI (among other things) and kept his mouth shut during ‘04 while having his honest service slandered. Mistake.
F*ck the wealthy…They’re going to have to stop expecting to be catered to at the expense of the greater good of the nation that nutures them. Nobody except godless communists begrudges them wealth, but they haven’t the right to expect enrichment while the nation slides into poverty. If that’s the American dream, wake the f*ck up.
Jimmy Stewart is the high-falutin’ example here…I’m thinking Tom Laughlin in Billy Jack Goes To Washington, filibuster until you drop.
I am thinking that this NSA wiretap story could really get traction on both the right and the left. NO ONE trusts or likes the big telecom/cable companies to begin with – and as Sen LEahy said “you mean that the NSA is collecting data of the phone calls of 10s of millions of Americans? 10s of millions of Americans who have NOTHING to do with Al Qaida?”
If the Dems want to get their supporters to the polls they had better start talking censure and/or impeachment investigation fast. The NSA spying, the manner in which we got into Iraq, and the outing of Plame are all “executive” decisions. All need investigations, and the only way the Dems will get anywhere is to promise to investigate.
(And tell Chris Matthews to go f**k himself!)
Love this post, Christy, thank you.
I have only a minute this am, but noticed this article in the fine print @ WaPo about the Army not letting reservists retire. Hundreds of them. This is separate from stop-loss, and a bunch of them are suing.
Army reservist article
Who would want to join this army?
A simple idea is to talk with neighbors & co-workers and people we run into in the grocery store. We usually hesitate to talk politics with others unless we know they share our feelings – well I’ve found recently people are anxious to let their thoughts be known.
There are a lot of people out there who don’t pay attention to pundits & blogs – they get by on an hour of news a day and maybe a local paper. We can up their info level one small bite at a time.
Love the pic, used to have a Great Dane named Gretchen – one of the best pets I ever raised.
Agh. Massive numbers of typos above, sorry about that, didn’t want to get EPU’d and rushed to get it out.
From today’s WaPo: Plan to Give D.C. a Vote In Congress Advances
“The legislation, set to be unveiled at a news conference today, would expand the House from 435 to 437 seats, giving a vote to the District as well as a fourth seat to Utah, the state next in line to enlarge its congressional delegation based on the 2000 Census.”
Time to send Eleanor Holmes Norton a thank-you note.
Reverend Al Sharpton said in 2004 that he was a conservative…he wanted to conserve lives, conserve the constitution, conserve social security and so on.
Personally allthough I am not a religious person I am very strong on a tough law and order policy.
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. Three strikes and your out. Life means life – no parole. No remand.
Now read the crimes. Watergate. Iran/contra. Yellowgate.
Go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect 200$ . A big house divided against itself cannot stand.
Here’s a good slogan: “Honesty, Integrity, Competence–Democrats”
Simple message for the opposition:
“You deserve a government that works for you.”
More elaborate iteration:
“You deserve a government that works for you, and works for all of us. For those that elected it and those that didn’t. For those that agree with it and those who don’t. For those who can’t buy a vote as well as those who can.
“You deserve a government that respects your tax dollars, and the burdens on your children. You deserve a government that respects working Americans and families, rather than lets their futures sell off to the highest bidders. You deserve a government who cares about the environment as much as it cares about big business.
“You deserve a government that fights for your liberty, and believes you deserve representation. You deserve a government that is humble in its duty rather than arrogant in its folly. You deserve a government that respects your intelligence, cares what you think, listens to how you feel, and makes us all proud to be Americans, all over the world.
“You deserve a government that works for you.”
Get this into the mainstream consciousness, and the Repubs don’t have a prayer. Or rather, anything BUT one.
Simple message for the opposition:
“You deserve a government that works for you.”
Rayne: I too, want the person who developed this “Global Marshall Planâ€; instead of these monsters who have developed the “Global Martial Plan”.
“who fits that description?”
Russ Feingold
You.
You’re the messenger.
All you have to do is listen to your friends, relatives, neighbors. And then talk to them a little bit. You’re politically aware – you hang out at FDL, after all. You already know more than 99.9% of the electorate. You know the issues and you know the messages.
Listen to what your companions care about, point out how they’re being failed by their government now, and how changing that government can improve their lives and their children’s. And then call them to action, encorage them to vote – better still, get them to join you in a campaign if you’re lucky enough to have a candidate you trust.
The greatest tragedy in all this is that you’ll underestimate yourself. I bet you’re already respected in the community of relationships you’ve formed, and I’ll offer a double-your- money-back guarantee that you’ll be trusted more than any talking head.
Here’s the bad news: it’s up to you. Not Fitz, not Russ, not Redd or Jane. You’re not Cassandras any more. With every passing day it takes less courage and less insight to point the finger and cry, J’accuse! Conventional wisdom – I’m looking at you, Lou Dobbs – is picking up steam and heading our way. Blame-gaming will take care of itself. It’s time to go viral and make Karl Rove sick. Tell your friends.
Suggestion: Use Yearly Kos as an opportunity to evaluate and draft a net roots character the entire Progressive Blogosphere can get behind:
A character like Jimmy Stewart in Mr. Smith Goes to Washington who will rail against corruption and renew Democracy so that it can throw the bums out.
In order for the potential of the forces of the Blogosphere to be realized, there must be a transition from the virtual and intellectual to the real and physical to effect measurable constructive change.
Yearly Kos can be this opportunity to focus on the recruitment of a worthy warrior who will possess the skills, experience, credibility and integrity to achieve these goals.
And with selection complete and nomination accepted the focus can then be…organize, organize, organize….
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In six months we will know which party will control Congress.
As long as the GOP makes no serious effort to stop the corruption, they cannot run on a platform of ethics in government. We can.
As long as the GOP continues to support efforts to illegally spy on Americans, they cannot run on a platform of safeguarding our constitutionally protected rights. We can.
As long as the GOP continues to ignore the security of our borders and ports, they cannot run on a platform of safeguarding the nation from terrorist attacks. We can.
As long as the GOP continues to postpone and blow off the investigation into the use of pre-war intelligence, they cannot run on a platform of working to prevent the mistakes of the past. We can.
As long as the GOP continues to protect the interests of the corporations and the wealthy segment of society, they cannot run on a platform of looking out for the interests of the middle class. We can.
As long as the GOP continues to allow billions of dollars in no-bid contracts to be awarded to companies with no oversight and no accountability, they cannot run on a platform of fiscal responsibility and restraint. We can.
As long as the GOP continues to shortchange our men and women in uniform, both in the field and after they return home, they cannot run on a platform of supporting the military. We can.
I don’t know about you, but I don’t see any signs that they GOP plans to actually make changes in their policies and positions in ways that will better the lives of the American people. Refusing to allow them to find cover in the fear issues, and getting out the vote will be critical to being victorious in November.
More re: the NSA phone number traps:
Remeber the movie “A Beautiful Mind”? In it a brilliant, but crazy methmentician tries to “break” imaginary codes and detect the pressence of enemy spie cells by constructing these leborate sting models on bulletin boards. Tne models try to establish “connections” by showing frequency of contacts and any interconnectivity.
Basically, that’s what Hayden’s trying to do.
I wonder if he sees imaginay people who aren’t really there, too?
Anne (104) — Brava! I think I may have to appropriate that for the local party website (which I know the Repugs watch carefully).
When Bush took office (and I do mean took), think about the shape of things Clinton left him. Compare that to today. (I’m deliberately staying brief here, but you can fill in the blanks.)
Had enough?
I fear that floating lots of progressive proposals just gives Rove something to work against. How about we put them on the defensive, try to explain the mess they’ve put us in? They’ve gone to the 9/11 well once to often for that to work any longer as an answer.
I expect most FDLers want to have a positive message. I’m not suggesting a personal attack, but rather a policy assault. In this case, though, attacking the policies is attacking Bush. The Dems need to tap that anger. They’ll lose that momentum, I fear, talking about national health care details, for example. The message really is, Can we afford to leave these guys in charge any longer. Had enough?
Nice, Anne 104!
On indulgence yr honor…I remind readers that the Dem vote peaked in 1936 under FDR and the same year so did the great Spanish revolution so vividly described by George Orwell.
This is the seventieth anniversary of that fateful year that remains well within living human memory.
‘ War is the health of the state ‘
I see a split developing here between the netroots and the Vichy Dems. This is similar to the great rift valley on the Marxist Left.
They are being forced to choose between the anti-statist, distributed and networked SubDelegate Marcos types and the Caudillo Chaves/Castro big state, maximum leader for life types.
So be careful what you wish for here. Ideas have consequences.
If you want a charismatic leader then they are not only at great risk from snipers of the lunar right.If they win you are at great risk from the four hour speechs.
The consensus slow haul long march style of the EZLN is more to my taste but yr mileage may vary. I mainly think if your not running to end the war then wtf are you at all good for?
I like Gore just fine and would vote for him, but IMO Edwards as a “candidate” outperforms Gore. Gore, in this really red, area is very strongly put in the same Hilary camp – I am not saying that is correct, but it is a very commonly held reaction and he both creates wedges and gets less strong support from the reddish Dems and bluish Reps in places like So. IN and W. KY
Edwards, who has had a fairly low profile, still outperformed H Clinton in the poll I saw and you could see how much less of a wedge he drove into the Rep. /INdy groups – he was much more acceptable to them and IMO, for all the talk of wedge issues, in part what you need is someone who does not create a visceral, adverse, unthinking negative response as the “start point” without even the Rove machine starting up. He’s also smart, more “teflon-y” than some, and has what really seems to be a genuine commitment to a war on poverty – which makes him very supportable by mainstream religious groups as well. fwiw
OTOH – I’m all Feingold, all the way, whether he runs or not he’s my write in and while I’ll play the game with Dem votes in 2006 to see what happens, by 2008 I’m done with servitude and back to voting for who I can stomache.
Gore and Kerry are both looking much better than they did when they ran initially (more so Kerry – Gore did look pretty good but had his identity crisis about whether or not to distance himself from the Clinton legacy) but I think they bring lots of baggage and Gore brings some of the same “rile” factor to non-Dems as Hilary. IMO, Murdoch would love to keep Hilary as the frontrunner bc he knows that she can and would and will be beaten. Between the issues facing any woman as a candidate, and the issues that she has with the Dem base, and the degree to which she motivates Republicans – she has no chance. Run her against someone like Hagel or McCain or any Repub that doesn’t create AS strong a negative reaction with the Dems and she is sunk.
OTOH, she could so easily be a kingmaker if she chose – raising $$$ and $$$ and $$$ – and flipping the Murdoch and right wing sound machine onto their cockroachian backs. Let them try to make her the candidate by saying nicey things, while at the same time rile their base by mouth frothing, and then quietly maneuver someone who can axe them into place. Think about it Hilary ;-)
Looks like the “realists” in the GOP are getting ready to throw the Neo-Con BUMS under the bus!
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Rumsfeld’s days are clearly numbered. Karl Rove is rumored to be days away from being co-indicted with Cheney aide Lewis “Scooter” Libby for the Valerie Plame CIA leak affair. Recall that that affair was over alleged Niger uranium evidence as basis for persuading Congress to waive a war declaration on Iraq and give Bush carte blanche.
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All threads are being carefully woven, evidently by a re-emerging realist faction, into a tapestry that will likely spell impeachment, perhaps also of the vice president, the real power behind this presidency.
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In the space of 12 months, Russia and China have managed to move the pieces on the geopolitical chess board of Eurasia away from what had been an overwhelming US strategic advantage, to the opposite, where the US is increasingly isolated.
It’s potentially the greatest strategic defeat for the US power projection of the post-World War II period. This is also the strategic background to the re-emergence of the so-called realist faction in US policy.
BIG Geo-Political Article – Lot of ground covered, must read here:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/HE09Ad01.html
I put up a picture of Jimmy Stewart in Mr. Smith goes to Washington the other day and I still think that the nation hungers for that sort of messenger — someone who cares more about the well-being of the rest of the country than they do about keeping their job — but the question is, who fits that description?
I was bemoaning the lack of such an individual years ago. However, as you should know,there is none. In fact, LOOKING for one is a terrible sign of abdication of responsibility for our own souls. Should such a person appear to arrive on the scene, he or she will garner immediate support of the masses and turn out to be the worst thing that ever happened. Imagine a COMPETENT, charismatic authoritarian. Our yearning to be taken care of is like summoning Satan.
All that is best about America has brought us to this point, not what is evil. :-( That’s what my beloved progressives haven’t yet grasped. It’s time to grow way beyond what we have known.
Here’s the link to the Congressional members who filed an amicus brief; check the 2nd graf here. WHY NOT?
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The 71 Democrats and one independent filed an amicus brief in two federal courts reviewing challenges to the warrantless wiretapping program in Detroit and New York, joining the American Civil Liberties Union and the Center for Constitutional Rights. Both suits demand the program be stopped.
Top Democrats did not sign the call. Neither House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) nor House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-MD) have joined the brief.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0511.html
I think we need to set up Democratic headquarters that help people in a concrete fashion. The facilities need to have things like a food bank, a job placement service, job training, educational assistance, child care assistance, a medical clinic referral service for the poor, and free legal clinics, etc. It could be staffed by volunteers and we could start slow by using the blogs to hold food drives, funding drives, etc.
This is how the mega-churches reached the poor and the lower middle class, and convinced them to vote against their interests. They provided concrete help when people needed it, endorsed the culture wars to further alienate people from the Democratic party, and then received money from the US government that was cut from other programs to continue this aid. This is the Republican machine. They divert tax dollars to those who help them keep power, and cut programs that help the general public, forcing them to accept help from churches funded by our tax dollars.
It seems to me that the only way to counter this is to set up our own system to assist the poor and disenfranchised, while at the same time getting them to register to vote, and promising that we will attempt to provide those services through the government, as it did in the past, so folks no longer need to beg.
I’d volunteer my time as an attorney for such a program, and would help with food drives.
So, has this happened to anyone else? I went to check out vapid dipshit Jeff Goldstein’s website today and evidently he took issue with my trenchant comments from a few days ago. His site routed me to the tbogg site, which I think was the referrer when I initially went over there the other day. So, an open comments section, but IP blocking for those whose comments are not appreciated. Interesting approach.
OT – CNN – Chimpy is going to comment on the NSA phonecall database at noon – via telephone LOL
i wonder if the NSA will be recording that call
Frank Rich on Colbert, the other night, reminded me of our worst beltway dems (not counting Lieberman, who is really a republican -not really a republican but a Bush cultist). Rich has written some great stuff, but on the Colbert Report, he appeared to be clueless and was totally unprepared. The man couldn’t speak in complete sentences. And though he was disdainful about Bush, he did not have anything kind to say about the democrats.
We do need some cohesive soundbyte style messages (Not the pathetic – together we can do better), more banner backdrops – dems have got to stand together on message so people have something to vote for. But also, we need our so called liberal pundits like Frank Rich to give the dems some support when given the opportunity. The thugs have lots of supporters (media whores, really) who stand up for and defend them on pure bullsh*t. Recent example: Paula Zahn, Bowtie Boy and others pounded on McGovern over the straw man periferals of the appropriateness of his questions, and etc.
We need some of this same kind of defense from our team, when the opportunities are presented.
Mary – Does Diebold have a write in button? Maybe I can just etch out Fiengold on the screen.
Tired at 114:
You got it.
The Dems need workable tactical plans. And it’s not enough just to register them to vote. You’ve got to get them to vote.
For example, most day care centers close at 6:00 p.m. Working mothers are scrambling to pick their kids up before the deadline. You think she is going to get to the polling station that stays open until 7 or 8 after her harried day? Our side needs to be there – at the daycare center – ready with dinner and a ride to the voting booth.
Fair game to find and publish General Hayden’s home address and phone number? Replete with Google satellite map?
lhp – each post a treasure this morning, but I give props for the “felonious violations of FISA”
The Beautiful Mind analogy is great and brings to mind the typical Bush cross. Crazy (like Crowe’s character) meets incompetent (like Don Knots from Mayberry RFD).
I guess with a six degrees of separation approach to the nation, only one-sixth or so of Americans are “enemy combatants” ??
From George Skelton’s column in Today’s L.A. Times –
Here’s some data re California (from the Velasquez Institute):
• Since 1994, the Democrats’ slice of voter registration has fallen from 48.9% to 42.7%, according to the secretary of state. Republicans also have lost, but much less, dropping from 37.1% to 34.6%.
The big gainer has been declined to state, leaping from 10.3% to 18.3%.
• Over the past 26 years, the trend has been even more precipitous for Democrats. In 1980, they amounted to 53% of the California electorate, roughly 10 points higher than today. Republicans were about the same then as today.
• Four in 10 voters who are age 18 to 24 are registered as independents or aligned with a third party, according to the Public Policy Institute of California. In Los Angeles County, it’s 36.3%, Cervantes says.
• Illustrating the increasing clout of Latino voters in L.A. County, they amount to 35% of registered voters under 25, Cervantes adds.
• Statewide, independent registration among all Latinos is higher than for whites, reports the policy institute. While 55% of Latinos are Democrats, 22% are independents.
The profile of an independent voter, the institute says, is disproportionately male, under 35, a college graduate, Bay Area resident and moderate.
An independent just isn’t a Democrat by another name. Independents tend to be environmentalist and socially moderate but fiscally conservative.
OT:
This DKos diary asks the question:
The reason why those telco carriers gave up the data to the Bush administration, is so the Bush administration would push through laws or deregulation favorable to their side on the ‘net neutrality’ issue.
Quid pro quo. Simple.
I too am worried that somehow we will find ourselves repeating 2004. Somehow I suspect that repuglicans are preparing a stealh attack using the underestimated power of their zealot organizational machine. I also worry about their ability to rig elections in a way that requires us to obtain much more than a majority of the vote. I fear we will be forced to constantly attain local landslides to succeed. I don’t think it’s impossible but it requires a lot more than one would expect in today’s anti Bush/Repiglican atmosphere. I agree with Christy. We must not be under the illusion that winning back the congress is going to be a slam dunk for progressives.
it seems like there is some connectivity between the most influential blogs. why not prepare a proposal something on the order of this:
ask each blog leader to poll their participants.
two items:
1. list and submit, in order of importance, the issues you believe to be the most significant concerns for our country (up to 5).
2. list and submit, in order of preference, the name of any person who you believe will represent best (however little or much that may be) your interests and concerns in the 2008 election.
each one of us should ask people we know who aren’t blogging what they think as well. we can poll as well. it would be a valuable source of information to the whole process if we brought our gleanings to the attention of the rest of our group. i know that we do this some already but i think we could do it on a slightly larger scale, and we could ask people we know are republicans as well. that could be especially interesting.
we of the blogosphere would then be able to argue these issues and preferences in a more focused and effective way. we could move toward a concensus and then we could have a stronger impact on the political establishment and MSM.
Rahm Emmanuel, Schumer and Hillary, Biden, etc. will pay attention if they see either a groundswell of opinion building and especially if they see a stalker or a really viable candidate emerging. Otherwise they will just brush us off.
If anyone missed Turley’s appearance on KO last nite; Crooks and Liars has it– tis worth the time. He sure ripped it!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/
moe99 @ 5 – (late to the game, sorry)
As one of the early Roots Project members, I am completely frustrated by our elected Senators tuning us out. We visited the offices, sent followup emails, and while the folks we met with were nice and seemed sympathetic, we’ve heard nothing back in three weeks.
I’ve been hitting up my Senator on a regular basis since the NSA story broke – all I get back is identical form letters. Even managed to get a local newspaper writer interested for a minute or two – that was good for one article. Finally, I came across one of his former staffers. “What does it take,” I asked, “for a disgruntled citizen to get his attention?”
Her reply: “Unless you are a big donor, or have your correspondence signed by a VIP, you will be ignored. Staff knows how to keep you busy, or out of sight.”
Being polite, writing letters, sending faxes and emails won’t cut it in my state, unless you want to enclose checks written for multi-digit amounts. I completely support the State Roots project, and intend to continue my efforts right through Nov 8. But honestly, its time to get creative. I have some thoughts on using artful “freeway blogging” type activities, I encourage everyone to start thinking creatively as well.
Disclaimer – I do not condone nor recommend unlawful activities. Be firm, be obnoxious, but keep it legal!
-GFO
I agree the USAToday story is huge. Here’s the link:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/w…..htm?csp=24
Basically, the NSA has a database of all domestic calls except those involving Qwest to Qwest customers(because Qwest refused to participate). What that means is that the NSA probably has all your calls in their database. They say that they just have the numbers but as the article points out crossreferencing with other databases can give names and addresses. The NSA also shares information with other agencies so it doesn’t necessarily stay just there. The NSA says it doesn’t monitor the call contents but this is not to say that they don’t record and store the call contents. This program could involve hundreds of millions of Americans. It is being done without court order or probable cause. And it is being run by the guy Bush wants to head the CIA.
Had enough?
We have a vast amount of talent and resources on hand in the blogosphere.
We know that we have an impact. Witness the support shown to Froomkin, the scorn heaped upon Cohen and the telltale comment by Chris Matthews that he is taken to task when he buys into the “equally corrupt Democrats” spin pushed by the right wing.
As we go to FDL for our info on the Plame leak, we also know to go to Bradblog for info on the rigging of votes.
Perhaps we can work to set up a few more websites–friendlies of course–to have pet causes and that explain the issues simply and quickly and offer grass roots action that can be accessed by everyone?
Those sites can be the ones to ring the alarm bells and prompt people to action when the egregious abuses occurr.
Also we must hit back, hard and fast and with repetition. The Neo-Confederates and Neo-Cons will not go down gently.
Also, someone had a link to Anti-War today that had a right wing radio host calling for an alliance with the left–because the Bush record on civil liberties was criminal…There are issues where the two sides will never meet–but the destruction of civil liberties is under way and must be met—if we need to compromise on a few issues…so be it.
-GSD
To bee or not to bee
There swarms the question
To take up arms against a sea of woes
And by OPPOSING end them.
Should Fitzmas make our summer of glorious content then I will strike my mark.
I see a cut above the enemies eye
bright fresh blood on the target dark.
Hark! there stands the little drummer boy!
His drumming rolls like thunder
Phase 2 – phase 2 – the chant begins
What are you trying to hide we wonder!
regretably, a large segment of our body politic finds direction by running away from fear as opposed to running toward something positive. and the fear has to be almost primal; a big ugly threat that sits in the living room and watches NASCAR and WWF with you.
it is time to redefine ‘us vs them.’ let’s use what they’re comfortable with.
what can we make them fear about republicans?
our civil liberties? too vague; not a lot of NASCAR traction here.
the war on terror? how about the fear of losing the war on terror? these guys can’t anything right, you trust them to do this? we’ve had some great war time democrat presidents. let’s become the war time democrats. warrior democrats. it’s got a ring to it.
fear of being cheated. nobody likes to be cheated. republicans are cheats. they take your money and give it to their rich friends. not corporations, friends. corporations is a vague word. use country club members, skiing buddies and friends from Boca. keep it in the living room.
fine, you don’t like queers getting married. are gays making it more expensive for you to fill up your bass boat? when has a gay person effected your family budget? thinking twice about making the trip to Branson this year. blame the republicans. don’t fear the blame game.
impeaching the chimp. it would be counter productive and nobody wants that now. bullshit. what have you got to hide? go offensive! nobody likes a liar and a cheat. everybody wants a hero. make this guy a target and go after him. and don’t feel bad about it. when has the republican party ever passed on the opportunity to be ruthless?
liars. cheats. hypocrites. they think you’re stupid.
simple powerful words that ring of truth. and just keep hammering at every opportunity that comes on the horizon. let’s get ruthless.
Voters need a “galvanizing issue”
Hard to believe that we don’t have one with all the crap that has been going on, but apparently we don’t. Maybe it is that there are so many issues that it is hard to pick just one and make that the focus. Would that Americans could get as fired up and organized about Plamegate or Fornigate or the War as were those who so passionately demonstrated against the proposed new immigration law.
If we could come together and be able to show that kind of passion and solidarity, I dare say, who could stop us?
Ding dong…
Bush is calling. CNN.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/5/11/11460/4736
Eureka
Does Diebold have a write in button?
*g*
I would bet not. OTOH, I can be creative and we don’t have Diebold here yet.
Follow this guy’s act. Only it’s not an act. He went out and had real conversations with his constituents and what’s more – he listened. He’s not just a Democrat governing a red state but he’s successfully pursuing a liberal/progressive agenda and he remains popular (thus far anyway). Take a look at his first state of the state address … nothin’ fancy no stacking of meaningless policy, just a few broad strokes and the message that they won’t forget who they are there to represent.
Viral marketing. Aka Word of Mouth. We (those who are younger than I and know how to do it) need to go to places like MySpace or wherever the young hang out and explain to them how the GOP has mortgaged their future and they need to help throw them out. I think the older voters see it and will respond when Dem candidates really start campaigning, but I worry about the young.
And the Dowager Empress of EPU makes her way to the thread -
Messenger
- not a clue, plenty of good candidates mentioned in the thread – although please darlings, promise me just once before I go, I can vote for someone other than a middle aged white guy
Message -
motivating folks to get to the polls
You’re The Decider – Vote !
Have never watched American Idol, but have a sense of how it works – and upwards of 25 million of our fellow citzens tuned in last night alone – Why can’t we use a Simon role model to get the millions of single women who stayed home last time to see that they have the power to knock off extremely powerful guys like Frist by mererly getting to the polls and pulling the lever ?!?!?!
a la CC Music Co. -
I’VE GOT THE POWER . . .
Not enought time to read all posts so forgive if already covered.
“You forget why they sent you. You forget it’s not that you’re charming and wonderful.” That’s the biggest gulf, I think, between our elected officials and us – they live in the DC bubble. I’ve lived there. I know how different it is. It’s like living in any company environment – Hollywood, Microsoft – after a while of insider stuff you forget all about the outside world.
The things I remember the most vividly are political theatre, even if it’s not political. An artist here in LA received a negative review of his show from the Times art critic. Summoning all the rest of the region’s press, he delivered a truck full of manure to the Times downtown office and dumped it on the main stairs to the building. Merde! Lots of publicity and people mostly found it amusing.
Others I’ve seen – people in giant cardboard box costumes with the red circle and slash-NO BIGBOX STORES. Witty protest from just a few can be memorable.
Hugh -
Poindexter’s “Total Information Awareness” goal is alive and well–The secret aggregation of EVERY collectible fact about every citizen. The major Bush crony corporations are ass-deep in this effort.
bush to make statement any minute–
I don’t know if Michiko Kakutani’s (of NYTimes) monster review of the slate of recent books about the Bush horror show has been linked to yet, but it is a must read. Caveat: it is LONG but definitely worthwhile.
Best thing is that she manages to maintain a firm but non-partisan tone, definitely not “fever swamp.” Forget it if you are a Bush wacko, but any fair-minded conservative would be impressed, because the opinions are not Kakutani’s but those of the authors, some of them card-carrying conservatives.
http://tinyurl.com/hltup
looseheadprop 89 –
That machine you describe might be a Penn, but it looks like Hayden’s NSA is ‘Penn AND Teller’… (apologies to punaise)
Bush: strict targeting of Al Queda suspects, not domestic, legal, privacy of “innocent Americans, no trolling, mining. How do you know he’s lying? His lips are movivg.
I just sold Verizon and bought Qwest. Probably won’t make any money, but my conscience is clear.
Be great if all Americans call their providers and have their numbers changed. Nothing like the smell of mass confusion in the morning.
ccmask #146 – LMAO! But seriously – that would be an amazing movement!
I think Cingular belongs to AT&T. I’m thinking about switching to Vonage. Vonage suports liberal causes and they are not participating in this data mining (that is – I have not seen them implicated in it, yet). I wonder if their service is as good as Cingular, the big fat brownshirt company that I hate supporting.
These guys are slipping in the base support numbers because the regilous right has begun to realize they are being duped by the GOP. They used to think Bush would reallly create their paradise on earth where sex, drugs, rock and roll, interent, gambling etc would be illegal.
Post Raplh reed gambling scandal in GA the rank and file are less inclined to suport legislation promoted as christian friendly because they know all these bills are really probuisiness.
Or maybe thatis just what I wish was happening here.
Although not rock solid proof there is a GOP bill now that would regulate select formm of gambling online to the benifit of GOP friendly corpate interests like NFL. Pretty notable that no big christan groundswell has emergered to help this bill pass. Wonder why?
Manifesto for better govt
Reading all the posts above, I am struck by the admirable themes. My feeble contribution:
Things which disturb us all, Republican, or Democrat:
1. Taxes: benefits for the rich vs. the common good.
2. Deficit: borrowing with foreign loans, because enough taxes are not paid into the treasury to finance the bigger government which Bush has created, in spite of promises to make it smaller, and because of war. Deficits create vulnerability.
3. The war in Iraq.Unreasonable demands on the limited financial resources ( from payment of taxes to the national treasury), threatening national bankruptcy: destruction costs more than creativity.
4. Corruption at the highest levels of government, the White House, Congress, appointed officials: unchecked, unregulated influence peddlars.
5. Chronic lying by the highest offficials in government: the reasons for going to war in Iraq, (and possibly Iran in the future), the promises for Katrina assistance and rebuilding of New Orleans, domestic surveillance, torture of P.O.W.’s, etc.
6. No-bid contracting for the war in Iraq, for Katrina rebuilding (sic).
7. President’s disrespect and disregard for the Constitution and the laws of the nation.
8. Breaking down the separation between church and state.
Solutions:
1. Sacrifice for a GREATER GOOD: a National program, involving all agencies of government and the people of this country which will establish a creative goal of energy independence within 10 years while, simultaneously, improving the environment. This country has the talent, the genius, the institutions of higher learning, the industry which could accomplish this with the knowledge we already posses, and with everyone making a contribution.
As an integral part of this plan, the citizenry would be required to conserve energy, at home, work, and commuting, and to protect the environment by composting, by recycling, by organizing neighborhood participation in the planting of community gardens, carpooling to work and the store, etc. Car manufacturers would have to make smaller cars which would get at least 40 mph and new hybrids.
2. Taxes should be seen as a CONTRIBUTION to our FUTURE, our WELL-BEING, our PRESTIGE as a nation, not, as a burden. Fair Taxation is a GOOD THING!
3. End the War. End war as a solution to conflict. Diplomacy and cooperation with all nations. A national program to foster understanding of other cultures with which we are in conflict featuring television series, lectures, school assemblies, classes, mailings, dissemination of resources available for study.
4. Make Civics and government studies required courses for Secondary and Higher Education. Every citizen to receive a copy of the Constitution.
“The National Save Our Nation” plan would dovetail into a academic, local, and church sponsored, community-based way to harness all our creative and intellectual energies.
Slogans: “We Can Solve Our Problems!” “We Can Accomplish Anything!”“We Can Make Peace!” “We Can Create American Initiatives to Create New Jobs!”“We Put Men On the Moon. We Can Be Masters of Our Country’s Destiny. We Can Be A Great Nation Again!” “Let’s Put Our Heads Together to Make Good Things Happen!” “ Share your Best Ideas and Make America Strong!”
CREATE A NEW AND BETTER AMERICA, ALL OF US, TOGETHER!
Idealism, harnessed to the grand pragmatism of American psychic energy and the “can-do” spirit of this country, can infect people with so much more pleasureable sensation than fear, anxiety about war, pestilence, disease. People have only one life and they deserve to enjoy it.
A fundamental issue that I see is that many voters don’t believe they can affect change and their vote counts in any way. Pox on both parties. Its come to a point that the frustration is equally placed on both parties as folks feel it makes no difference.
Elected officials say anything to get elected and then once in DC go their merry ways lining their pockets and those of their corporate contributors. Voter turnout will continue to get worse providing the Repubs an opportunity to keep power as their base is more rabid and they keep playing to that base with red meat issues.
The Dems need to run a campaign for change. They need a message that a Dem congress will prevent further calamities and prevent additional usurpation of power. They need a message that there will be more transparency and all the nefarious activities of the current administration will be disinfected with sunlight. They need to campaign on a platform of ethics, constitutional protections, a revitalization of the economy by focusing on the middle class, more fiscal sanity, a better national security through use of real coalitions and diplomacy, a much larger emphasis on actual terrorists and homeland security.
They need to highlight the deception and corruption of Bush-Cheney and the Repubs. They need to highlight that we are in this mess because the Repubs with control of the WH and Congress have lied us into chaos.
Rayne and angie – thanks. It just came to me that these people really have nothing to run on but fear, and I think people are tired of being played like that.
I also think there has to be a cogent and pointed response to “but we haven’t been attacked since 9/11 – see what a good job we’re doing?†And maybe that response is “just because you’ve never had a car accident doesn’t mean you’re a good driver, and it doesn’t mean your car is well-maintained or the road you’re on isn’t covered with potholes. And you don’t prevent accidents by purposely running other drivers off the road so that you have smooth sailing.†Shorter version: “just because you’ve never had a heart attack doesn’t mean you’re healthy.â€
“…a cogent and pointed response to “but we haven’t been attacked since 9/11 – see what a good job we’re doing?†…”
Eschewing the perhaps tinfoil hat “BushCo allowed it to happen” thingy for the sake of argument (because itbegets MEGO to go there with most ordinary people), it’s simple — 9/11 was a big Sucker Punch. ANY authority could enact the steps requisite to minimize the prospect of another one.
I could quietly walk up behind you, jerk you around, and smash the hell out your face. Once.
darkblack (124) — unreported in-kind political donations = telcos’ release of all our personal conversations to the White House and thereby Bush/Cheney’04.
They can’t prove otherwise unless they permit access.
I’d like to second (third? fourth?) Christy’s #18, justaguy’s #22, and margaret’s “all of us together” from #150, with the added caution that actively looking for a Jimmy Stewart leader figure hinders the process of finding one. We need a hundred Shirley Chisholms and a thousand Mr. Smiths and a million Harry Taylors, because we are in for a hella turbulent decade. We need to be the change we wish to see. Trying to pick leaders ahead of time will just impair our ability to do what needs done because it creates a bottleneck. When people are trying to get something done, leaders emerge naturally.
What was the closest thing to an effective populist groundswell that we’ve seen recently? The Dean campaign. It crashed and burned, partly for internal reasons, but mostly (IMO) because of a total and irreconcilable impedance mismatch with the way the commercial news media work. The source of Howard Dean’s effectiveness can be summed up in just one of his stump phrases… “You Have the Power.” And that was completely incompatible with the way that everybody else expected the electoral process to run. The media simply couldn’t absorb it, and the Dean campaign couldn’t scale up fast enough without the media’s help (plus I think it just caught everybody off guard ;-). Alas.
But all the energy that ran the Dean engine is still there, and then some, and the blogosphere’s reach makes the mass media ever less important. And the general principle (each one teach one?) still applies as much as ever. Offer people some responsibility and they will (by and large) do their damnedest to live up to it.
margaret (150) — you just reminded me of another manifesto, written by a fellow Salon blogger three years ago this month:
Mr. Key is the great-great-great-nephew of Francis Scott Key, if memory serves (I may have added or lost another generation there).
What he wrote three years ago still works, stands the test of an election.
Rayne @ 154:
…And the wheel goes ’round
This is not a new game, but the logical culmination of a very old one.
aquart 72,
National health care (or universal healthcare) is something even the most hardcore rightwingers I know are talking about. Because they are losing their coverage, and they are scared.
I don’t care how you frame it but simply get it out there.
I’ve read some great ideas for talking points here today that have gotten me quite optimistic!!
Coming from pessimist that is really something. :)
Thanks to all.
Given that women senators and representatives tend to favor progressive thought more than their male counterparts, it would be helpful to encourage more women to run for political office and strongly support their condidacy.
Some new free views that are worth consideration: Mark Thoma on Dean Bartlett’s new, free book, which is available at
http://economistsview.typepad……vativ.html
I agree with Tom DC/VA in 19 that we need to talk about some of the prblems rather than just about how to frame them.
#13. Blank Kludge misses Shirley Chisholm. Yes. Even more to the point I miss Barbara Jordan, who was so level-headed and incisive during the Watergate House hearings. She came on like James Earle Jones and told the man what was what. Awesome woman. I wish she were still with us today. We really need her spirit in these times.
In a way I hate to say this, but my sense is that more people need to be MORE AFRAID of the Repubs before they will change their voting patterns.
The GOP propaganda machine did a really efficient job of duping millions into being afraid of the Dems. They did it with lies, misdirection and false implications, and as such I wouldn’t advocate replicating their methodology. But the Dems could do a much better job of helping people understand that there is GREAT REASON TO FEAR THE GOP; and the Dems could do this not by lying but by telling the truth in a more compelling way. Fear of their authoritarianism and undermining of our constitutional freedoms, (domestic spying, destroying the social safety net); fear of consequences of their monumental incompetence, (Iraq, foreign policy tactics in general, economic irresponsibility, environmental negligence): fear of their lying; their massive corruption and the loss of faith in governance mechanisms, etc.
Sad to say, the emotionalism of fear is far more persuasive to a vast majority of voters than is simple reason and common sense. The GOP machine has know this simple truth for a long time and it’s a central reason why their propaganda has been so successful for so long, despite the irrationality and unsubstantiated nature of the rhetoric.
So, the Dems must show the voters that they have their own substantive and realistic ideas about bringing positive change to the country, but they must simultaneously show those same voters why they have good reason to fear more Repub domination of the government.
Given the current DLC-centric Dem leadership, I doubt any of what I say will manifest as party strategy. Maybe, however, after more poor performance in ‘06, ‘08, and ‘10, perhaps by 2012 the Dem electorate will have had enough and the DLC gang and all their loser strategists and consultants will finally be shown the door.
rayne (87):
Al Gore is fine by me. Now translate the talking points so joe sixpack won’t tune out after ten seconds.
I have been saying for months that while the polls show dissatisfaction with Bush, people will still vote party lines UNLESS there is something to vote FOR instead of AGAINST. Why don’t the fat cat consultants understand this? Why are leading Dems so damn silent?
Now, not October, is the time to drive home Democratic ideas. In other words, the bull (Bush) is wounded and now is the time to finish him off. The Dems need to drive home the idea that America and the Constitution will be restored under their leadership.
PROVE we care about people.
Easy example – go after creadit card co’s.
They aren’t fair everyone knows it.
Why can they jack up my interest because I turn in 1 payment 3 days late from 7% to 23% on my entire balance for a year?
How can 30% rates be “fair”?
Why can they bump my rates if I pay a bill to the gas co late?
Why can they change my terms at anytime on my existing balance?
Some basic consumer protection laws, that give regular people some protection would be HUGE. This impacts almost every voter, every month.
I suspect voters would think nice thing every time they pay their bill(s).
I have been fuming angry for a long time about the contempt the rep party has not only for “liberals” but for their own base. One example was when the head of women’s health at FDA left over the plan B thing & (for about 3 days) they appointed a male veternarian in her place. Noonan’s last paragraph maybe indicates that they are catching on.
radish, 155:”with the added caution that actively looking for a Jimmy Stewart leader figure hinders the process of finding one.”
Not to mention that Mr. Stewart was a reactionary conservative in real life. You are confusing the man with his movie persona (Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, It’s a Wonderful Life, etc.). Some people really think that John Wayne was a moralistic cowboy. Uh-uh..he was a movie actor, just like a former president who shall be unnamed.
I want to see my representative in the flesh. Back in 1971 I visited my cousin in Oklahoma and went to her Congressman’s BBQ, and shook the man’s hand, and I was impressed. If he could do it, why can’t my Congressperson flip some pancakes and kiss some babies? That would be the best remedy for a sense that the DC crowd doesn’t care about the little guy any more. Isn’t that what politicians are supposed to do? The only other thought this brings to mind, though, is that congressional districts are too big.
loosehead(106):
the CIA had a guy like that back in the sixties: James Jesus Angleton. Don’t know about Hayden but Angleton was a certified nutcase.
This is also in responise to “Meet the New Boss:”
I worked in advertising for many, many years and the question always is: who is the target audience and how do you reach them?
Well, if failing to reach millions of young, single women was the issue in the last election, then we must think about reaching them this election and letting them know their votes DO count and the Democratic party DOES CARE about their issues. Women’s magazines are the answer. Especially those that skew to younger women of voting age, and other magazines that cater to women, i.e. People, US, etc. The democrats can go a long, long way by advertizing a specific message to them in these magazines, early and often, leading up to the fall elections. Inserting stories into the magazines should be important as well if possible. But it must start NOW because the lead time for national magazines is 3 MONTHS!!!
Letters to the editor and phone calls to radio shows are good and do serve their purpose, but somehow I think these audiences vote regularly. And I’m not so sure young, single women are all reading the newspaper. To turn a quote, just sayin’.
Have you read Larisa report on Raw Story??
On an Iran strike!!
http://www.rawstory.com/
Mary (111):
I like your entire presentation. I believe that everyone should take a look at what you’ve said.
And I will support Feingold. I think he has already proven himself. He is saying what needs to be said and trying to do what needs to be done. He’s not waiting for a consultant or focus group to tell him what to do.
I will, in the end, almost certainly get behind the nominee whomever she may be.
Sure Republicans are bad, maybe even historically bad, but Democrats have sold out to the same corporate interests. That’s why there’s no coherent message that resonates from Democrats. Too many are just rebub lite like Lieberman.
I want to see a message that says: No corporate funding accepted by Democratic candidates. Government for and by the people.
I want to see a message that says: Government should be more than a treasure trove to be plundered by rich corporations and individuals at the expenses of all the rest of us.
I want to see a message that says: Government is a positve force in our lives.
I want to see the Democrats come out against gerrymandered redistricting. I want to see a politics neutral style of redistricting that would mean NO SAFE INCUMBENT DISTRICTS.
Should the democrats move in these directions and mean it, then maybe I could, in good faith, vote for them.
Christy
You are dead on to point out that language is the key. Bloggers on both sides are marginalized to some degree because they use the language of indignation and disdain. Snark (did I get that right?) is ok when you need to get something off your chest, but it doesn’t play well on the national stage unless you are Colbert, and even then it’s tricky. I think a fundamental step is to start providing language for those willing to put themselves up for national office (and let’s face it, not a lot of us are willing or able to do so) that they can use it to good effect in the public debate. I don’t mean facts and figures, although that’s part of it. I mean language craftmanship, an area in which you and Jane are obviously quite proficient.
When I look at the efforts of our current Democratic slate (Ms. Pelosi comes to mind) to reflect what they think they are hearing from their base, well, I think they need better advice, but more importantly, they desperately need better language. The gift of gab was (and continues to be) the attraction of the Bill Clinton. The base may indeed be “base” but they know a good line when they hear one.
There’s so many good ideas here. I don’t really have anything great to add, except that I’m going to go now and email this link to all my local representatives and Dem HQ. While I’m at it, I may as well send it on to Dean, Gore, Russ, and anyone else I can think of who might benefit from reading it. I’m going to put FDL in the subject line. Maybe if some of you have an extra few minutes, you could do the same. It might not really get us anywhere, but what have we got to lose? Besides, I think it will make me feel better for just having tried.
Oh, and did anyone catch Edward’s response to Mary Cheney’s calling him a “slimeball”? He didn’t react to it, just stuck by his earlier position that the Cheney’s were “role models” for loving their child unconditionally. IMO, it made Mary Cheney look all the worse and even more shrewish. Good on Edwards! That’s the stuff!
VJB (161):
I thought the very same thing.
What I want the Democratic party to stand for:
–Honest, transparent government with lots of oversight in all areas (especially the spending of tax dollars)
–Massive investigations of Bu$hCo operations in ALL AREAS.
–Public financing of political campaigns with limits on broadcast advertising and MANDATORY DEBATES AND PUBLIC FORUMS IN ALL POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS.
–Out of Iraq!
–Lots and lots and lots of new REGULATIONS FOR LARGE MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS—And END the rotation/revolving door between gov’t and Big Biz (10-year, or longer, time interval between those jobs).
–Raise taxes on the rich–Repeal ALL the tax cuts given over last 6 years for folks making over $250,000 a year.
–Eliminate Missile Defense boondoggle entirely.
–Terminate NCLB
–Strong support for gay rights and gay marriage.
–Impose tough, unequivocal FELONY penalties for ALL EMPLOYERS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, INCLUDING HUGE CORPORATIONS.
–Rebuild and restructure FEMA and other gutted federal disaster relief agencies.
–Strong support for SMALL BUSINESS in the form of tax breaks and lessened regulations.
–Eliminate ALL offshore tax shelters for corporations.
–END the ominous trend of privatizing our military–TOTALLY, in all aspects.
–End ALL giving of government moneys to “faith-based” (i.e.religious) organizations.
–Strong environmental policies aimed at cleaner water and air.
–MANDATORY mileage requirements for Detroit auto-makers.
–MAJOR gov’t project at developing alternative energy sources and the infrastructure necessary to mass-produce them.
–PAPER BALLOTS for ALL elections witn NO ELECTRONIC VOTING OR TABULATION, EVER!
There’s surely more, but that’s all I have time for now.
Add-ons:
–Break up the Media Monopoly corporations and greatly INCREASE AND STRENGTHEN public ownership of Media outlets of ALL kinds;
Establish additional PUBLIC networks on TV, Radio and Internet.
–Strengthen national whistleblower protection laws, bigtime.
–Build more prisons to house Republican political crooks and gangsters after their convictions.
Impeachment . . IS . . the “Postitive Agenda” … (stupid)
Without it, what exactly are the Dems offering TO DO with their shiny new non-veto-proof majority ?!?
Gee, perhaps they’ll pass a law criminalizing signing statements — which the chuckling bushkid will instantly negate with a signing statement?
That’s the reality folks.
No “investigation” is needed. In fact the suggestion itself is a veiled call to inaction.
What part of “We don’t need no stinking badges (warrants)!” do people not understand ?!?
How is TERRORZING the American People with a bomb threat of “Mushroom Clouds … in 45 minutes” not an impeachable offense? Even if they hadn’t done it to commit war crimes in our name?
Really, it’s long past “get off the pot” time.
Save Feingold and Conyers, THE LOT OF THEM are complicit with ongoing criminality and treason.
Yes, really.
And so are each and every one of us, if we’re not screaming our heads off about it.
Yes, screaming. “Violence” really is the answer.
Stop listening to the Beltway BS from the DC/Euphemedia Analstocracy. Calling for impeachment is not bad strategy. It will not energize a backlash. It will not “be like the Clinton impeachment” (it will be the opposite).
And it can’t wait. Calling for it now makes it non-partisan — and more likely to succeed. In fact, if we got the message to Repubs that “It’s Pres. Hastert now or Pres. Pelosi later,” we’d likely see the back of bush/cheney before the midterms.
(Again. Yes, really.)
But the bottom line is that strategy, fallout, and likelihood of success CANNOT be part of the equation. It is simply a moral imperative. Something that we all know must be done.
Principles we’re not willing to stand on are just bromides.
There really is no other moral or patriotic option.
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I am a parent of two teenagers newly registered to vote. We have a program in Missouri Kids Voting that begins in elementary that educates kids on the voting process. I noticed that once they could vote for real they were often intimidated due to lack of knowledge on the issues. If we could start a grass roots project that would direct people to a sample local ballot and ID ways to educate yourself on the issues I think more people (women) would vote. Locally, it is always beneficial for someone to recieve something hand written. Similar to how many charities fund raise.
The Democrats need to come out and say “We are not the old Democrats.” And then prove it. They need to take a vow of openness, honesty, and objectivity, and make a meaningful dedication to the constitution and constitutional values. Put America back on the map in terms of real commitment to American Idealism. We’re talking values like democracy, freedom of speech, religion, privacy, property, success, failure, baseball, mom, and apple pie.
Democrats need reach out and say “We are here to work with you, all of you, even the poor, tired, weak, not to mention the huddled masses in new orleans…” and fricking mean it. And they can’t move off of their core values: but they will be much better of if they are willing to respect and not belittle the other side’s core values (as long as they are honest and ligitimate concerns).
Lets move forward in this nation or in 20 years we will still be having this discussion.
I think that one thing progressives could do that would be fairly simple and register big on election results is to take a non-voter to the polls.
Find someone you know who doesn’t vote or hasn’t voted recently, possibly an 18 year old new voter, ask them if they will vote in November, and then support them in that decision.
Don’t tell them how to vote –just ask them to vote. If they ask you, certainly you are then in a position to say your bit, but don’t push anything except the fact that they need to vote.
I think it’s insane to keep chasing independents and “swing voters.” The best resource for progressives, I believe, is the non-voter.
This pandering business:
Democratic chairman Howard Dean mischaracterized his party’s platform on gay rights in an interview courting evangelicals, then set the record straight Thursday when an advocacy group called him on it.
Dean told Christian Broadcasting Network News that the 2004 Democratic platform declares “marriage is between a man and a woman” _ just one of the points he made in reaching out to religious conservatives who are largely hostile to the party.
But the platform does not define marriage that way, and his remarks prompted the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force to return a $5,000 donation from the Democratic National Committee.
Dean later acknowledged his misstatement, but the group sent back the money anyway. “We need for Governor Dean to demonstrate real leadership on our issues,” executive director Matt Foreman said in an interview, “not to equivocate depending on the audience.” (http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/11/D8HHP2K00.html)
has to stop.
And so begins the formal 6-month campaign of innoculating GOP Congressmen from Bush’s negatives.
Demand universal health care, promise to hold those who are wrecking the country accountable, offer genuine lobby and campaign finance reform( as in public financing), “FAIR TRADE AND TAXES”, Alternate and renewable engergy to put distance between us and foreign petroleum reserves, and a push for a higher minimum wage packaged in a text that portrays the GOP as a group of power and money hungry bait and switch liars. Lies about why we’re at war, lies about spying on our loved ones and ourselves, lies about the abandonment of stricken places like New Orleans and and lies about what we stand for. Accuse them of crewing corporate pirate ships. The GOP is Mr. Schmee. Prioritize reversing media, cable and telecom mergers so it’s harder for people to lie to us. Above all, show some gumption, BE PISSED OFF about being robbed blind and abandon the stupid “electibility” meme, and pick candidates who say what has to be said in blunt terms. Drill voting into the heads of those you know, if each and everyone who reads our blog communities did just that then GOTV would be nothing but a reminder, a little reinforcement and not like plowing rocky ground. If everyone who comments wrote letters to their local editors and to one national publication the roots would make their presence known. Write your goddamned representatives and senators and then spend a buck to call them to remind them that you wrote. Last-if everyone who reads these sterling bloggers would send money to our kind of candidates, to the DNC, the Rahm Emmanuels and Hillary Clintons would get the message. Brew your own goddamned (fair trade) coffee and give the money to those who’ll use it instead of Starbucks. One more thing. If you read a really good blog post that’s of moderate length, print it, include the blog logo, and then when you go to the store, or for a walk in the park, or to the movies (or Starbucks), hand ‘em out. Just a dozen or so once in a while would have ripple effects. Forward blog posts in your emails, use entertaining ones most of the time and then slip the politcal ones in from time to time. COMMUNICATE!
Perhaps some re-evaluation of our message is necessary, but I don’t think we need that much navel-gazing. We need to be smarter in how we deliver our message, to be able to define who we are instead of allowing the Republican Party to do it for us.
Much of the media accounts of the Democratic effort in the 2004 presidential elections seemed to hail it as one of the most organized and unified ever, the reality on the ground was much different, according to some of my friends who volunteered in Colorado and Florida. On Election Day the Democratic efforts were chaotic and haphazard, volunteers having to jury-rig get-out-the-vote efforts and other structural needs; nothing was in place.
Meanwhile the Republicans used the organizational backbone of conservative and church-based groups to get their message out not only on election day but throughout the year. We need a similar apparatus. I agree with Howard Dean that we need such an infrastructure in place, but there’s not enough money for the DNC to do it all. We need to coordinate with groups such as Move On, Daily Kos and Democracy for America, and make sure that it relates to real-world effort, not just some meeting of minds in cyberspace.
Perhaps Republicans need support groups more because their world view is archaic and often at odds with reality, an extra-special need for their message to be reinforced. But that shouldn’t preclude Democrats from trying to create a similar structure. Not a group bound by religion or cult-like groupthink, but a social construct that takes the place of what clubs and religions used to do; allow people to feel a welcome part of a group, provide support, to reaffirm moral values, to allow one to think of issues larger than in one’s own life.
I keep up with the news and blogs, but I often feel that with some of the Democratic gatherings I’ve attended that there is a clubbishness and sense of middle-class privilege. The tendency I’ve seen is that they’re smart, mostly college-educated, question everything and are critical thinkers, but they lack the empathy or compassion to really relate to anyone outside their own sphere. Despite their progressive political leanings, they can be as uncomfortable around people outside their own group as those from the other party.
We need to be better at this, stop demonizing people from the red states (partly a class issue at work here, I think) and do the hard, uncomfortable work of translating our wonderful cyberspace meeting places into real ones in our communities.
I miss Paul Wellstone. I think someone like him would be providing some of that leadership you talked about at the end or your post.