
(Jennifer Nix is the editor of Glenn Greenwald's book How Would a Patriot Act. Given the relevance of Glenn's book to today's revelations about the Bush Administration spying on its own citizens, I asked Jennifer to write up her thoughts. She has also made available Chapter 6 of Glenn's book in downloadable PDF form for FDL readers -- JH)
On February 15, I sat in a Chinese dive in North Beach with the online editor of well-known progressive magazine and a similarly-leaning, legendary book editor. I’d name names, but it’s only the twisted trust these men place in “conventional wisdom” that I wish to call out. And, I write this today only because the country as a whole seems to be in the grip of this same impotent and failed belief system, the one that tells us there is nothing we can do to stop the Bush administration from trampling on the Constitution and sliding this great nation from democracy into despotism.
It’s time to exorcise these demons of so-called conventional wisdom. Doing the right thing in politics and media, just because it’s the right thing, has become something of a lost art. But, maybe we can do something about it. So, here’s my tale.
I’d shown up for dinner with a bounce in my step, charged up by a number of conservatives-with-cajones stepping forward to take the Bush administration to task over its unwarranted domestic spying program, and claims that W can break any law he finds inconvenient. Republicans like Bob Barr and Bruce Fein were even using the “I” word (and the very next day, George Will would weigh in with his two cents likening Bush to a monarch). I expected that my dinner partners, as progressive thought-leaders and purveyors of information, would be fired up, too. I looked forward to a rousing discussion of how to explain Bush’s law-breaking ways, to connect the dots, and bring historical perspective to recent events.
Alas, I found no urgency, no fervent desire to inform the citizenry of what all was at stake. Instead I was treated to smug defeatism, of the brand so popular today in Washington, DC, even though we were hunched over a tiny table at the House of Nan King in liberal San Francisco. You know the stuff. The political posturing: It’s a losing proposition for Democrats to support censure or impeachment. This Congress will never impeach Bush. We’ll look weak on security. Or the ever-comfortable, elitist stance: People don’t care about these issues. They only care about American Idol. I paraphrase, but you get the idea.
“Are we supposed to stand by and do nothing?” I asked.
They looked at me like I was a five-year-old. Or, perhaps the radical fringe. I remember the book editor saying, “We can only do what we can do.” I left dinner somewhat disoriented, but after a Scotch by myself at Tosca, where I waited for my husband to come pick me up, I became even more committed to the Glenn Greenwald book project I was trying to get funded. I’d met Glenn through a fellowship at Working Assets, and had the idea that if his ideas could reach a wider audience, we might just be able to create a tipping point about Bush’s abuse of power. With Will Rockafellow, I’d put together a proposal, and about a week after my night at Nan King, Working Assets agreed to launch a publishing venture with Glenn’s project. The book, How Would a Patriot Act? formally enters the world next week, after some much-appreciated buzz on the blogs a couple of weeks ago.
But, despite my hopes for what Glenn’s book may be able to accomplish, we are still fighting an uphill battle in the public opinion arena. It is astounding to me that conservatives have been far bolder in criticizing the president over his NSA shenanigans. And even in the face of the USA Today story, detailing more administration lies and explaining the NSA’s plans to build a database of every call made within the country, we see no collective demand from Democrats to stand up and say, NO MORE!
WE HAVE GOT TO DO SOMETHING. We need a movement. We need to be our own leaders, people. It will take all of our talent, all of our knowledge. All of our cooperation.
This has to be a citizen-led movement, and it will take all of us working together to build the necessary pressure. Yes, our Congress may be controlled by the president’s party, but there are some brave elected officials for whom we can build support. And this is not a liberal or conservative crisis. This is an American crisis.
And our media—mainstream and progressive—have often been too timid to stand up to this administration, but the stories are starting to roll in. The New York Times, the Boston Globe and even USA Today are working it now.
But we have to care. We have to be outraged. We have to take action.
This is our moment. Our public servants are there to follow the will of the people. If the people want George Bush to stop breaking the law, then the people must, and can, make him stop.
So, here are some first suggestions to help citizens stand up to the Bush administration:
1) Read or listen to Senator Russ Feingold’s May 8 speech at the National Press Club [MP3]. And here’s what he had to say today about the USA Today revelations:
This Administration’s arrogance and abuse of power should concern all Americans. That the government may be secretly collecting, and using data mining to analyze, the phone records of millions of law-abiding Americans, as reported in the press today, is a frightening prospect. I am unaware of this program, and Congress needs to find out exactly what the Administration is doing and whether it is legal. It is time for the Administration to come clean with Congress and the American people. We can effectively fight terrorism and protect privacy, the rule of law, and separation of powers, but only if we have a President who believes in these principles.
2) Visit the Progressive Patriots Fund.
3) Vote with your dollars and leave the telecoms that handed over your information. From CNN.com:
AT&T Corp., Verizon Communications Inc., and BellSouth Corp. telephone companies began turning over records of tens of millions of their customers' phone calls to the National Security Agency program shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, said USA Today, citing anonymous sources it said had direct knowledge of the arrangement.
4) Read this excerpt [PDF] from How Would a Patriot Act? for some historical perspective on just how hopeless a cause it once seemed to fight for the impeachment of Richard Nixon. And we know what happened there. Here’s one passage:
President Nixon was held accountable for his wrongdoing and abuses of power because Americans, with the relevant evidence assembled by the press and by Congress, concluded that he had seized powers that were not rightfully his to exercise. As a result, they demanded that he be forced from office, because preserving the American system of government from those who sought to assault and violate it took precedence over partisan allegiances.
It took a full year after the break-in — during which top Nixon aides resigned and there were highly publicized attempts by the administration to block investigations — before Americans began, gradually and reluctantly, to conclude that the president had committed serious wrongdoing. And it took another year for Americans to demand that the president be held accountable and that he be forced from office. Eventually, with impeachment a foregone conclusion, President Richard Nixon went on national television on August 8, 1974, to announce that he would resign the next day.
That two-year process — from burglary to resignation — was enabled by the checks and balances the founders instituted in order to safeguard our system of government: namely, a free and aggressive press, a Congress that takes its oversight duties seriously, and the reservation of ultimate power in the hands of the American people.
5) Stand with Representative John Conyers on the impeachment investigation resolution. Use your imagination. Be creative. Talk to each other. Build a movement. Your country needs you.
Enough already with the conventional wisdom. Let’s not worry this time about political posturing. Let’s do the right thing and stand up to a president who’s making a mockery of our Constitution. It might just work.
Update: Pach, from the comments adds one more action step "Join your neighbors in open source lobbying and media campaigns to accomplish what Jennifer describes: Email stateproject at gmail dot com and put your home state (and only your home state) in the subject line."
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Fitz!
the kisses and love won’t carry me, till ya marry me FITZ!
FITZ!!
OT but interesting via link on Sibel Edmunds website that I bookmarked oh so long ago: this summary of Sibel’s case maybe a little hint of what is being hidden.
http://thestressblog.com/2006/.....d-the-mic/
Shite!!
You kids are way too freakin fast.
Hey, Sharkbabe, any further intel to share with us about your friend with the pretty pedicured toes?
EPU’d -
…Judge J. Michael Luttig, one of the country’s most prominent conservative jurists and once considered a likely Supreme Court nominee, has resigned from the Fourth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Va…
I’m sure life (read: $$) in private sector was part of the motivation, but TIME seems to think that he resigned partly out of qualms regarding civil liberties. He was on the Padilla case. If you remember, the administration did a 180 on trying him in civilian court and Luttig basically called the DOJ liars. Hard to believe that Bush & Co. are offending even their base to such a degree.
The pdf is 404.
It’s time to stand up!
All I can say about this awesome post is - THE FUCK YEAH!!!
the link above took me to a transcript
google led me to the MP3 recording of Feingold’s speech
It has been mentioned a couple of times at the Cannonfire blog that a GJ can initiate an impeachment. Power to the people! and Fitz!
Join your neighbors in open source lobbying and media campaigns to accomplish what Jennifer describes:
Email stateproject at gmail dot com and put your home state (and only your home state) in the subject line.
W at 29%!!!! Harris.
Fathead Fukuyama on TDS.
Thank you Jennifer! Awesome post and hell yeah, no more waiting around — everything we care about is at stake. Charge!!!
nixed
Fitz’n A! for Jennifer
Thesaurus 5 - fraid this might just end up bein the old tease ‘n torture. Of course that can have its moments.
Here is the link for GJ and impeachment:
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com.....outes.html
Just EPU’d
Thesaurus Rex~
I just read your “On Civility”
http://incomprehensibledemoral.....tml”
Awesome!
12:00 tomorrow is the deadline for any Republican to challenge Katherine Harris, but no one has.
Anyone think she might be blackmailing the RNC with nasty things she may know about the 2000 recount fiasco?
Yes! We have to stop them. No deafeatism. I have been waiting for a post like this! The Constitution is bigger than all of us. We should have impeached with the first violation of the Constitution. Better late than never. Yes it is a bold step but it is no less bold than this administration that we are dealing with. Take no prisoners. We are at a war for the future of our country and perhaps our world. The movement is required of us as patriots who believe in the rule of law.
Fitz and Jack!
Say hi to Jack Cafferty and tell him thanks for his greatness this evening!
http://thankyoujackcafferty.blogspot.com/
Thank you, J. Nix, Editatrix for this uplifting and informative post. Welcome to the Lake!!
I pre-ordered the book along with CTG, and can’t wait for them to arrive. I have a feeling things are only going to get hairier in the coming months. Much hairier. War in Iran. Civil unrest. Republicans are in too deep. They’d rather go to jail and wait for pardons than admit what they’ve done, all at the behest of the imperial president. On the other hand, the bloggers are finally winning the propaganda wars and public sentiment. Buckle up!
I am sooooo tired of “smug defeatism” or the Obama et al play it safe and watch them self destruct. Feeling hopeless is no way to go. It’s no way to win either. If we are to win this thing, and by that I mean, our country back, we have to win big with a huge and real mandate and the guts to see it through.
Thanks so much, Jennifer, what a great post. It’s an incredible book, and it’s unbelievable that it could be written and published so quickly, so responsive to what’s happening RIGHT NOW. Everyone should take advantage of that PDF and read it. It’s an extremely valuable resource.
http://tinyurl.com/a6erq
HELP IMPEACH TODAY
Keep the pressure on Congress… Talking about impeachment wakes people up… They question, it’s a strong motivator to get people thinking. It also lets Congress know how intense the dissapproval is for this President… They seem to be a little slow on the uptake. So please:
1) Sign petitions if you have not done so
2) Send a letter to Congress (both Senators & House rep)
3) Send a copy to the media
4) Enlist friends and family to help, ask them to chip in time
5) Spread the link around, email it (with a request to forward) post it on a blog, or in the comments of a news story.
Help out!!!
Thanks :)
Just EPU’d
Thesaurus Rex~
I just read your “On Civilityâ€
http://incomprehensibledemoral.....n-civility .html
Awesome!
Thanks, Leslie!! I was so thrilled to wake up this morning and find that C&L had linked it.
OT– Colbert has Albright on tonite.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2....._0511.html
The shit is almost about to hit the fan. Read this article, then think about this issue (form Cafferty File):
The NSA told the executive (justice department) that they can’t investigate the spy agencies. It looks like the military takeover is near complete. So know with aircraft carriers heading to Iran (sorry, I meant Iraq Mr. Intelligence Officer), we are fucked. Also the article states that since there has been no “presidential finding” on some terrorist islamo-mujhadin organization (compared to christo-mujahdeen) the US has hired, the US operations currently underway in Iran are beyond the authority and reach of the congress and judiciary. The military coup of the USA looks to be complete. They have the White House, the CIA, the NSA, the pentagon, they have by-passed congress, they control enough of the supreme court (I mean even if 1 of the liberals on the supreme court was taken out by one of the guilty members, no one would challenge him. I mean, why would a member of the scotus ake out another member, even if the killer was a member of a skull & bones type group.
Learn to love the smell of naplam in the morning…
I’ve been on the impeachment wagon so long it feels like 4,000 miles of bad road.
troll
Semi-OT, semi-not: I just got back from a “Crashing the Gates†meeting sponsored by the local Democratic club. Markos spoke and then answered questions. (He was terrific, by the way. Copies of the book were on sale, so now I don’t have to go through Amazon.)
Anyway, I have not been active in the local club; when I moved here back in 1989 it was very much a good ol’ Southern boys club. But one of the questioners had identified herself as being on the county executive committee, and asked how they could become more grassroots friendly. So I said what the heck, and at the reception I introduced myself and asked how I could help. Within about ten minutes she had introduced me to several other people and — voila — I’m on the executive committee if I want to be. Which I probably do, although I think I should find out exactly what that involves first.
Who knew it could be that easy to get involved in local politics? Not just stuffing envelopes or precinct walking, although I’m sure I’ll wind up doing that too, but at (at least in a small way) the planning level? I went as a Kossack (and FDLer too) and wham! I’m a member of the Establishment. It turns out that sometimes you don’t have to crash the gate; knock softly and it opens.
By the way, Markos said it hasn’t been announced yet, but YearlyKos is turning into the place to be for Democratic presidential candidates. Feingold can’t be there because the Wisconsin convention is that weekend, but 6 or 8 others (in addition to Warner, who has already said he’s coming) will be there. I didn’t know we had that many, and he didn’t tell me who, but I’m even more excited about going than I was before.
jumpin jack ass
I ordered my copy on the day it went No. 1. Anybody know when they will be delivered?
I have been having a reoccuring nightmare recently in which Shrub pardons Cheney and then resigns, President Cheney pardons Shrub in return, martial law is declared for “Bird Flu” and then he cancels the election in November. I know the burritos at bedtime are a bad idea, but they seem so tasty!
Welcome jumpin!!! A living piece of history - one of last apologists standing, a real 29 percenter. We’ll tell our grandkids about you someday.
Great Post Jennifer and I look forward to reading the book.
OT: If Karl Rove is lining up the Republican party to run on getting tough on immigration, then why did the Republican controlled House Judiciary Committee reject the effort to end bilingual ballots in many states?
Why do Republicans hate immigrants but love their votes?
I’ll tell you what “Jumpin,” for us, this is a ride to ruin. Buckle the fuck up, chuck.
Wouldn’t it be “funny” if the telephone company executives told Arlen Specter that the Patriot Act prohibited them from telling his committee what information the telephone companies gave the government.
I must admit I signed this when the count was around 60,000…up to over 700,000 now…
They have been putting ads in NYTimes and other places. Ads are pretty good. They read:
“Want to remain a Constitutional Democracy?”
http://www.impeachbush.org/site/PageServer
Sounds like we have a movement…
obsessed #20:
Anyone think she might be blackmailing the RNC with nasty things she may know about the 2000 recount fiasco?
Nah, I think it’s that Harris has screwed things up badly enough that only a really prominent Republican could turn things around. The rest of them would rather let her lose than get in and take the blame for losing themselves.
Thank you so much for this diary! I had just cancelled my cingular wireless service, in protest, before I read your fine article and I am encouraged, that the possibility exists, that we can make a difference.
Such an improvement over that hopeless feeling that so many of us feel…and you nailed the conventional wisdom thing exactly. Most of us are so tired, and busy and stressing just to make ends meet that we can’t really put our minds to the task of accepting that our government is lying to us…we expect a certain level of corruption because we understand that we have human beings at the helm…but the level of corruption is so heartbreaking, and so beyond the scale of us mere mortals, that we are the proverbial “deer in the headlights”. Our disbelief and horror are enabling those who would enslave us all.
Thanks again for your clear thinking and your call to action.
Thanks for your hard work, there are many who will stand up-it is a bullshit philosophy that says we can do nothing. Think about those things you didn’t know how to do in your life and you did them anyhow. My ex and I created a small ski hat business from nothing, we had zero experience. In the end we were selling them across the USA. I am only stating the obvious which is if we can think it we can do it.
Fues
Jennifer - awesome awesome post! Thank you for your work and for sharing your thoughts with us.
One of the reasons I’m working (almost ft it seems) for YearlyKos is that this gathering is a chance for us to meet and plan and get active - and it’s our chance to speak to the speakers who are coming to woo us. I know not everyone can attend, but I really hope a lot of us can and can use the weekend to make things happen. (of course, I hope everyone has signed up for their state groups already and is hitting the phones and all in the meantime - no rest until impeachment!)
and angie - I wonder if he’ll ask Madeline if it’s worth the price? 500,000 Iraqi children dead on her watch.
What part of illegal don’t they understand?
355 ;)
Aheh, “Jumpin’”. We’ve been graced by the presence of a living fossil, kids! One of the last of the Bush-lickers. Get a microphone, let’s interview it!
Mr. Jumpin, has Dr. Frist diagnosed you as not being in a persistent vegetative state? Have you been dipping into Jeff Goldstein’s Klonopin? Well then, to what do you attribute your remarkable ignorance and inability to face facts? Is this a genetic trait common to your species?
Please, speak right into the microphone.
yep siun– she has changed her tone only recently and done no atonement yet.
BarbaraB @ 33 - cheers to you for civic involvement
Prior to Cunningham and Jackson I would have labelled this “crazy Italian tabloid shit”. Now the notion of a quid quo pro for crappy intelligence does mpt seem that inplausible. I give it 30/70.
http://tinyurl.com/rnktn
Jumpin– if you like napalm, how about bugs and bugspray? Because I hear Bugboy has an opening for an apprentice who is a true believer.
Jennifer - I think your mass movement concept is exactly what we need. Our officials need to be led by the people. Everyone needs to talk to their friends and neighbors — the ones we don’t talk to and gripe to about politics already. It’ll take time and effort, but try to bring them along, fill them in on what us political junkies have learned.
As paradox @7 noted, the chapter 6 pdf link leads to a “page not found.”
kinda sucks when you jump in post-troll-scrub and are left to wonder how bad it was….
nodding to angie… atonement would be wise. After working my way through Fisk’s chapters on Depleted Uranium and the Sanctions under Clinton, I don’t feel very forgiving towards that crew either.
As a fellow San Franciscan, I immediately thought of House of Nanking when you said Chinese dive in North Beach. Great food. Too bad your company wasn’t as lively.
Wonderful essay. Thanks.
Thank you for the hard work, Jennifer. I can’t wait to read this book.
T Rex, I too just read your ‘On Civility’, and I love it that you speak truth to nastiness so eloquently!
http://incomprehensibledemoral.....n-civility .html
punaise– quite malodorous, made my eyes water.
(May 11, 2006 — 10:18 PM EST // link)
Hmmm. That didn’t take long.
Bush at 29%. Harris Interactive’s new poll, just out.
– Josh Marshall
Jennifer -
Thanks again for your awesome article.
I love all the ways you suggested for citizens to stand up to the Bushies.
Something along the lines of the 60,000 (or far more) people in Seattle one morning in November 1999 may be a logical next step.
The WTO protests shoved the Doha round of trade talks off the tracks (and the train won’t be making the Congressional station before Fast Track authority expires).
The following April tens of thousands showed up in DC to stop the IMF/WB meeting - without the element of surprise. Amazingly enough, the protests “lost” - the meetings still happened. Yet the IMF/WB have never recovered, and the IMF’s very existence is in doubt.
I don’t think 20,000 or even 100,000 kossacks and fdl’ers and EarthFirst’ers and the like can shut down DC in 2006.
But I think some clever, creative family-friendly bash with tens of thousands of the Republic’s best friends may help shove Bush off the tracks.
Besides, it’ll be something to tell the young’uns - how a whole a bunch of us stood up and fought to save our Republic -
and how when we stood up, we found gifts and talents we’d never recognized -
and with those gifts and talents, we won.
25th anniversary of Bob Marley’s passing.
RIP, Bob, you are missed.
“Get up, stand up: stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up: don’t give up the fight!”
I’d like to see a general strike accross the nation. Kind of like a day without a Mexican, only this would be a day without a patriot. Let’s do it.
This NSA wiretap program is Total Information Awareness. Has anyone else though of that? I have more over at my blog - check out all the quotes from the administration figures, etc
29. lets start thinking black jack, as in 21.
kirk murphy @62~
What a lovely and inspiring comment.
BTW:
The repeat of Keith Olbermann starts now….It’s a MUST SEE .
Tomorrow I call AT@T to cancel with them. Today I wrote Feinstein before I knew she was backing off from her words of praise for Hayden of the other day. I told her I would never vote for her again. That from now on only progressive, peace candidates who are willing to be accountable will get my money and my vote. I told her how tired I am of begging my reps to respect our civil liberties.
Hope I receive my preordered Greenwald book very very soon.
(Author’s note: Rant alert. Rant alert. This is not a drill.)
The entire blogosphere, to the Democratic Party:
Fucking DO Something!!! Walk out! Shut down the Senate! Give a speech calling Bush a bald-headed chicken-fucker!! T-P the Whitehouse! But for the love of Yahweh, DO SOMETHING!!!
That’s what this is all about. We sit here day after day, jaws dropping at the stunning, relentless onslaught of lies and crimes and billions of dollars stolen and thousands of dead bodies, and those who are supposed to represent us just sigh and file their nails, like eunuchs at a gang-bang. They just don’t get that we want actions which match the outrage of the crime.
Show me the Senator, Governor or Congressperson who’s as outraged as I am, who has a plan, who loudly and aggressively flings shit at those who advocate “working with the opposition” (I’m looking at you, Barak, as you merrily guffaw along with the president at the White House Correspondents Dinner), and that person gets my dough and my vote.
siun– atonement would be perfectly apt after her talking tonite about religion so much. so many died from starvation, lack of medical care and neglect during the sanctions… there is much more to come. ;( Heaps of blame to go around here, starting most memorably with Reagan and right on thru to w.
angie (25), I am never going to forget how Obama basically chastised our rowdy CT Dems for booing at Lieberman and endorsed him so to speak. Big bucks Obama now.
Related to the current NSA furor is this particularly interesting story from back in World War One days, as related by James Bamford, author of one of the only books on the NSA, The Puzzle Palace:
“By the time Yardley returned to the United States in April, 1919, the State Department was already busy trying to establish a secret liaison with the Western Union Telegraph Company. It was hoped that Western Union would cooperate with the Black Chamber in providing copies of needed messages. For six months the State Department got nowhere; the Radio Communication Act provided harsh penalties for any employee of a telegraph company who divulged the contents of a message. Then Yardley suggested to General Churchill [director of Military Intelligence] that he personally visit Western Union’s president, Newcomb Carlton. The meeting was arranged in September, and Churchill, accompanied by Yardley, raised with President Carlton the delicate matter of his secretly supplying the Chamber, in total violation of the law, copies of all necessary telegrams. After the men ‘had put all our cars on the table,’ Yardley would later write, ‘President Carlton seemed anxious to do everything he could for us.’”
Sounds familiar, eh?
A bit more at my site…
chisholm @ 69: sing it, surely!
T Rex, I too just read your ‘On Civility’, and I love it that you speak truth to nastiness so eloquently!
Thanks!!! I’m so glad that piece is getting read.
I urge all of you to cut and paste it into the comments section of every right-wing blog that you hate. One of the things the trolls kept saying when they came after me for this post:
http://incomprehensibledemoral.....shole.html
was, “Who the hell are you, Thesaurus Rex?! No-one’s ever heard of you! And no one ever will!” Or something like that.
So, please, use my words against them. It would make me happy.
The Critic @ 72: intriguing bit of history
After the men ‘had put all our cars on the table,’
Matchbox, or Hot Wheels? :~)
dana milbank is a big bag of nothing.
If I had any of these phone companies (AT&T, Verizon, or Bell South), I would quit. NOW. So you have a contract. Seems to me that THEY disobeyed the contract.
Hot Wheels are just too damn pimped out for my tastes, punaise.
TRex, you da bomb!
(wait, that didn’t come out quite right. NSA, disregard.)
should we be buying put options on these telecoms?
The Critic @ 79:
…but those loop-d-loops were pretty fine
Critic #72:
Of course, Yardley went on to be quite the leaker of his day. After he was sacked by Secretary of State Stimson (”Gentlemen do not read each other’s mail!”), he wrote The Black Chamber, which told of his exploits in helping snooker the Japanese at the London Naval Conference of 1920. Of course, the Japanese had begun cheating (see “Gentlemen” above) anyway. But what the heck.
Congrats TRex, and good for you using their fear mongering right back at ‘em! Maybe they will finally understand– the last 29% of the zooming, looney wingnuts!
Thwack!
pukebot #77:
Looks like Bonesman Milbank got his orders from higher pay grades than Church Lady?
Jane, I had a very interesting conversation tonight (in person) with the right wing commenter you strafed in this post back in February. http://firedoglake.blogspot.co.....0585395412
There’s a very funny story about it. I’ll email it to you when I get his permission to out him. I’m not sure whether you’ll want to laugh or spit.
oregondave @54~
The pdf might have been not working earlier, but it is now.
Leslie 67 -
Thanks!
I hope I’m not being preachy, but mass events (like Seattle) provide powerful visual messages reaching far beyond the lifestyle fluff (piercings, blue hair).
I’ve worked on the medical and logistical side of these mass gatherings - with minimal budgets, the logistics require two to four months. Larger budgets would make shorter lead times. My rough guess at the core logistical cost for Seattle would be under $500,000.
A bargain.
Less than a million to stop global corporate power with assets in the trillions.
These logistical costs don’t include all the contributions in time and labor and travel costs required of the 60,000 (or more) who showed up outside the conference center.
The folks who came to Seattle in 1999 and DC in April, 2000 gave their time and energy and passion on behalf of issues most Americans had never heard of.
That’s why we came - to break through the common media story and tell our own story.
The NSA’s criminal spying and Bush’s crimes and incompetence are, well, famous - in comparison to the WTO/IMF/WB.
In May 2006 a hell of lot more Americans fear Bush and despise his policies than feared and despised the WTO in 1999.
If anyone wants to make a big, big statement about preserving the Constitution, and they want to invite a few hundred thousand friends, I know we can have one hell of a party.
We may even revive one.
oh, egregious and all other Virginians out there: take a peek at what Crooks and Liars has up here! I have just finished ROTFLMAO at this, and not because of the awful Civil War ;( may all the lost souls RIP), but because ‘rebel’ Georgie was outed and I am so happy it will not be forgotten.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/
The Captain #65:
This NSA wiretap program is Total Information Awareness. Has anyone else though of that?
Actually, I think it’s not TIA until they cross-reference it with commercial databases, which I’m sure they’ll having done until the next leak lets us know that they have.
Congress specifically prohibited funds being spent on TIA, as I recall. Looks like Iran-Contra all over again, only more blatant.
Well, Mr./Ms. Senator, Mr./Ms. Congressperson? Are you going to give up “the power of the purse,” too? And if so, what exactly are you doing to earn your salary, ’cause upholding your oath of office sure ain’t it!
yikes-
I’m awaiting moderation.
should I be checking out the mood stabilizer samples?
(note to NSA - please tell the Medical Board I’m joking).
Here’s another non sequiter:
(btw, I am on glass of wine #2, and will, for the sake of all parties involved, soon depart and vent my frustration on the unfortunate stack of scripts by my bed (there better not be any Red Dawn 2s in there, unless its a John Waters project. But I digress.)
There’s absolutely zero proof of this, but I wouldn’t be surprised if some Republican, somewhere, has the political savvy (conscience would be asking too much) to see the writing on the wall and make a name for him or herself as “the Republican who took on Bush.” There’s a lot of brilliant strategy involved here, if you think about it, and as horrible as all Republicans are–complicitous, felonious, duplicitous shit-eaters, bar none–one of them may just realize that a serious political destiny could be made by a strategic attack on their dying, crippled master.
I don’t know who that would be, but the worse things get the greater the likelihood (yes, it’s marginal) that a Republican wild card will emerge.
Don’t forget, the Republicans have their “consultant-based bullshit” to overcome, too: mark my words, McCain’s move to the right will go down in history as wrong place, wrong time, wrong motive.
OT-ish: NPR Squawk of the Nay Shun with oh-so-middle-of-the-road Neil Conen today - while the NSA scandal roils - had a couple of washed up pols on to yuck it up about humor in politics (with a subtext of civilty). Folksy Alan Simpson and buck-a-yuck Robert Reich*, trading silly banter about how they despise each other’s politics, but darn it, their good buddies and get along just peachy kean.
The subject turned to comedy roasts, and the 800 lb. gorilla in the room didn’t even let out a grunt: nary a mention of Colbert’s Bush roast. Never happened. Move along folks, nothing to see here.
(Now, in fairness, the follow-up segment featured a decent blurb on the NSA situation.)
*former Clinton Sect’y of Labor, actually an astute commentator on economic issues
obsessed (#20):
CNN showed k. harris talking to bush on the tarmac when he landed in florida the other day. a fly on her (ahem) enlargements must’ve heard something like this “mr. president, with your JAR like it is right now, it wouldn’t do for anything to come out about how i “handled” things in ‘00 would it? i didn’t think so. have a great day, sir.”
Everybody should write a nice letter to their cell phone company, telling them that you think giving your info to the NSA is a violation of the contract. Make them have to write millions of response letters. Also, ask them point blank if any of your data was turned over. Demand a yes or no.
I think we need some kind of huge protest. A million people throwing phones over the fence at the White House, perhaps. How big a pile would a million phones make?
Go to a thrift store and buy some ratty-ass used phone for a dollar. Write “HOLD HEARINGS” on it with a sharpie. Mail it to Arlen Spector. How many shoeboxes full of dirty old used phones would it take to gum up the congressional mail room. Write “IMPEACH” on it and mail it to the White House.
a good friend always reminds me - “be very afraid when their backs are to the wall.” not afraid as in cowering or wavering; afraid as in “these crazy bastards might do something even stupider still.”
the raw story up tonight regarding carriers to iran and a june strike is chilling. ms. nix requests notions. here’s one - if we need to mobilize mass protest to try and halt the madness of a “pre-emptive” strike on iran we must couple it with a national strike. this is something that has never happened in the USA - a nation-wide general strike. yet it is this very element that is the hallmark of every populist, social revolution in modern history - velvet rev, cedar rev, hell, the french used it just a few months ago. hit the profiteers where they feel it.
al-Scooter 85:
nice call. i’m sick and tired of people jocking this guy for “edgy” stuff like wearing an orange vest. he’s weak.
Jane, re 86, sorry to tease, but I got a nix on that for now. Maybe someday.
I’m so thankful FDL and other blogs out there. I really don’t know what I would do if I didn’t see the insight and thoughts of like minded people, and encouragement for all to take action.
Kinda ironic that the internet arrived in time to keep the true patriots of the day front and center, to encourage citizens to own their goverment and demand that our rights be preserved, our voices heard, and truth and integrity be restored as a true America value.
cleter 95 - good plan re contacting phone cos. I’m locked into Verizon with long-term contracts (somewhat less so with AT&T), so I can’t afford the cancellation fees. But holding their feet to the fire - good call.
So if there is an indictment tomorrow, it will be a matter of public record immediately- right? Don’t think that Fitz can delay it. We’ll all know.
#90 Redshift - I think that this is TIA, and that we just don’t know about the other parts of it.
TIA had two parts: data collection and software to process the data. We now know that they were doing the data collection part. How long until we find out that they were processing the data?
When asked how TIA would function, the spokesman for the DOD had this to say:
http://www.dod.gov/news/Nov200.....20asd.html
punaise @100
Seems to me if Verizon (or AT&T or Bell South or whoever) broke their privacy contract with you, you could break your contract with them.
Kirk Murphy (91). I hope you are not suggesting “awaiting moderation†is a diagnostic tool. If so, I might need some of those samples.
This was a great post and I can’t wait to receive the Greenwald book.
Fading out. And now I must do some putzing around. although insomnia might strike.
pukebot (#77)
Dana Milbank is the sine qua non of pompous ass.
Jennifer Nix - thanks for helping get our man’s book out. Seems like topical timing for release/publication. Thanks also for the chap. 6 preview (mine dl’d no problem)
Good night FDLers. Hoping for a bright Fitzmas morn.
Captain - yes, several people have noticed that. In the Tom Delay post comments, Advice Librarian linked to a good technical discussion:
link here
For a long time I thought that protests were ineffective and kinda hippy-drippy. But I have begun to think that they could be a very useful tool today, so long as they are targeted at the media filter itself.
BushCo has waged first and foremost a war of information. But the only other entity fighting that war is Osama bin Laden. Both do so through competing campaigns of misinformation. Yet we on the left are fighting the last war, with the same old weapons.
To fight on the terms of an information war, we have to target the tools of misinformation that BushCo has used to decieve and obfuscate. We are where we are because of the witting and un witting help of the media. So we have to go after the media filter itself.
Case in point: I live in Los Angeles. A major media market, and yet I didn’t see one second of footage from the NY protests. Not one. But if the 500,000 or so protesters had had a different strategy and a different target, I might have.
What if, say 50,000 or 10,000 or even just 1,000 protesters blocked all access to the NBC offices in Manhattan for one day. Don’t want to get arrested? Ok, what if 1,000 protesters lined the streets to the entrance of Rockfeller Center for a day.
Then the next day another 50,000/10,000/1,000 protesters did it again, and so on. For ten days those protesters either 1) make it impossible for NBC anchors and producers and accountants to get into their offices or 2) in the non-arrest version, just make them wade through a wall of signs pointing to their complicity in the Bush Administrations campaign of misinformation. Do you think that would get reported? I find it hard to believe it would not.
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