
The NYTimes has some details on the latest polling in the NYTimes/CBS effort — and it is getting ugly for the Bush White House.
Americans have a bleaker view of the country’s direction than at any time in more than two decades, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll. Sharp disapproval of President Bush’s handling of gasoline prices has combined with intensified unhappiness about Iraq to create a grim political environment for the White House and Congressional Republicans….
Mr. Bush’s political strength continues to dissipate. About two-thirds of poll respondents said he did not share their priorities, up from just over half right before his re-election in 2004. About two-thirds said the country was in worse shape than it was when he became president six years ago. Forty-two percent of respondents said they considered Mr. Bush a strong leader, a drop of 11 points since January.
Mr. Bush’s overall job approval rating hit another new low, 31 percent, tying the low point of his father in July 1992, four months before the elder Mr. Bush lost his bid for a second term to Bill Clinton. That is the third lowest approval rating of any president in 50 years; only Richard M. Nixon and Jimmy Carter were viewed less favorably.
Mr. Bush is even losing support from what has been his base: 51 percent of conservatives and 69 percent of Republicans approve of the way Mr. Bush is handling his job. In both cases, those figures are a substantial drop in support from four months ago….
Fifty percent said Democrats came closer than Republicans to sharing their moral values, compared with 37 percent who said Republicans shared their values. A majority said Republican members of Congress were more likely to be financially corrupt than Democratic members of Congress, suggesting that Democrats may be making headway in their efforts to portray Republicans as having created a "culture of corruption" in Washington.
By better than two to one, Democrats were seen as having more new ideas than Republicans. And half of respondents, the highest number yet, said it was better when different parties controlled the two branches of Congress, reflecting one of the major arguments being laid out by Congressional Democrats in their bid to win back the House or the Senate.
Yowza. There is even more in the article — it’s striking that there is so much of a difference in the President’s "base." (And I use quotes, because large amounts of the "base" appear to be substantially disaffected in this and other polling out there, notably the USAToday/Gallup which was out earlier.)
The May/June 2006 issue of Foreign Affairs magazine has an article by Daniel Yankelovich entitled "The Tipping Points" which I encourage everyone to read. The thesis of the article is that there are multiple points — Iraq and terrorism, sure, but also environmental issues, big oil and even substantial discontent within the so-called "religious right" and disaffection around these issues that is substantially eroding support for President Bush across the political spectrum.
Yankelovich brings up some insights on these issues that I think will have real play up to and through the November elections this fall. But by far, the thing that I found most intriguing in this article was his reporting on trends within the "religious right" which seem to indicate that the kool-aid is no longer so tasty, as personal issues like energy prices, increased grocery and other costs, and disgust with GOP corruption scandals begin to trump the "follow the leader" lemming voting that single-issue appeals from the GOP has had over the past few election cycles.
No idea if this is why the NYTimes reported earlier this week that Rove is using the "if Democrats win, it will be scary" meme to excite the base, rather than turning to the usual "hate the gays, protect marriage, guard yer guns and rally round the flag" tactics (although Frist still has the marriage amendment and the flag-burning amendment on tap for debate in the Senate in June — just like clockwork for the manipulative, never gonna pass but we’ll stir up the pot anyway, election-year malarky that they always pull in stunt form).
But it certainly does put this earlier article from the WaPo into a much clearer context:
Tarrance said it would be extremely difficult for any president to bounce back this late in his administration and reassert influence on Capitol Hill when his approval rating barely exceeds his party’s base support and half of all adults surveyed said they "strongly disapprove" of his performance. An overwhelming 73 percent of independents disapprove of Bush’s performance, and two-thirds of those "strongly disapprove."
The new poll of 1,003 adults was conducted April 27-30 (after Bush had picked a new chief of staff, budget director and press secretary) and was released at a conference sponsored by the Cook Political Report. It contains plenty of other bad news for Bush and the Republican Party, and suggests that the growing unpopularity of the Iraq war may be turning this year’s midterm congressional elections from local to national issues.
One or two polls showing a downturn over a couple of months might not be a dire prediction. But when you have a trend across the board, and the margin of error in the polls puts you potentially into the 20s, it’s not good news.
When you have a trend even in the kool-aidiest reaches of your supposed base, that’s even worse news. If you haven’t considered working on a local campaign for a Democratic candidate in your area, please do so. Between now and November is crunch time — there is going to be a big need for a lot of boots on the ground if we are going to re-take both houses of Congress. And I don’t need to tell you how much this nation of ours is in need of some accountability.
No more Rubber Stamp Republican Congress. Had enough? Vote for a Democrat and, better yet, get out there and work for one.
Related posts:
- Obama’s Numbers Driving Democrats Down
- Pew Poll: Americans Losing Patience with Congress
- Americans Care More About Having Public Option than Gaining Snowe’s Vote
- Political Expert Steve McMahon Advises Democrats How to Fail On Health Reform
- Peggy Noonan: Catering to the Base Hurts the Country, Except When Republicans are in Charge





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Numero Uno — FITZO !
http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin…..other.html
Bush Backs Brother Jeb for White House
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 10:55 a.m. ET
ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — President Bush suggested Wednesday that he’d like to see his family’s White House legacy continue, perhaps with his younger brother Jeb as the chief executive.
The president said Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is well-suited for another office and would make ”a great president.”
”I would like to see Jeb run at some point in time, but I have no idea if that’s his intention or not,” Bush said in an interview with Florida reporters, according to an account on the St. Petersburg Times Web site.
The president said he had ”pushed him fairly hard about what he intends to do,” but Jeb has not said.
”I have no idea what he’s going to do. I’ve asked him that question myself. I truly don’t think he knows,” Bush said.
Jeb Bush, 53, will end his second term as governor in January. His brother George ends his second presidential term in January 2009. Neither can seek re-election because of term limits.
Jeb Bush has repeatedly said he is not going to run in 2008.
But even his own father said no one believes him when he says he’s not interested in running at some point. Former President George H.W. Bush told CNN’s ”Larry King Live” last year that he would like Jeb Bush to run one day and that he would be ”awfully good” as president.
The Florida governor laughed when asked about his father’s comments last June. ”Oh, Lord,” he said and shook his head no. ”I love my dad.”
The brothers Bush appeared together Tuesday during the president’s visit to the Tampa area. Gov. Bush was waiting on the tarmac when Air Force One arrived and greeted the president with a politician’s handshake and ”Welcome to Florida.” The president brushed aside the formality and playfully adjusted his younger brother’s necktie.
Jeb Bush introduced his brother at a retirement community in Sun City Center, where the president touted the new Medicare prescription drug benefit as the governor watched intently from a politically appropriate seat on stage right. They had a private lunch together with political supporters, then visited a fire station and appeared together before television cameras to express concern about wildfires that were blazing across the state.
The governor was not with the president during his visit to The Puerto Rican Club of Central Florida in Orlando Wednesday — George W. Bush’s final stop on a three-day trip to the state. But the president was sure his brother still got some attention.
”Yesterday I checked in with my brother,” President Bush said as he took the stage. ”Make sure everything’s going all right. I’m real proud of Jeb. He’s a good decent man and I love him dearly.”
Chickens!
Fitz!
it’s SERIOUS bunker time in the Berlin that is Washington!
Josh has more on Cunningham., with links. Apparently there’s a lot more stuff about to come out.
“This is much bigger and wider than just Randy ‘Duke’ Cunningham,” he said. “All that has just not come out yet, but it won’t be much longer and then you will know just how widespread this is.”

Question: Could Cunningham be pardened whilst in prison?
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
Ah, man, EPU’ed. Gist:
Did y’all see dengre’s diary on the Abramoff/Ney Mariana Islands ball of wax over at Kos?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/5/10/1169/39344
No president who’s approval rating has dipped below 35% has EVER been able to raise that rating back above 40%.
Now, where’s my pony?
Cunningham could be pardoned at any time, even after his death …
AughtnotAgain (#2):
But he DIDN’T say “He’s done a heckuvajob.” did he?
“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.”
-attributed to Upton Sinclair
Washington is imploding. The magnitude of this composite disaster is overwhelming. We are about to enter a very dark period in the Republic’s history. Seriously—this is inevitable even without Democratic subpoena power.
Aaugh 2 – I’ve said it before, the one upside to this junta nightmare is that the name Bush will be political plutonium for a thousand years.
Sorry to be OT, but is anyody watching out for Fitz sightings today?
Holden 8,
We are approaching Peak Pony.
It’s very funny that George W. is backing Jeb for the White House. Given that George is quickly becoming radioactive, as it were, I look forward to headlines in which Jeb tries valiantly to distance himself from George W. and the Bush family. :)
I just realized something about poker parties. They are an excellent means of transferring cash from one person to the next person.
Rather than simply hand someone money illegally, you create a semi-legit operation to do so, where the actual bribing takes place over several hands of poker.
The lobbyist deliberately loses. He consciously folds on good hands and plays out the bad hands, so that the Congressman can go home with a bagful of cash.
This is how it used to work in the radio business, as documented in a poorly-written, but fascinating “novel” called “Payola” by Gerry Cagle — the mid 1970’s Program Director of KHJ/Los Angeles.
“Poker party” = transfer of wealth from those wanting favors to those who can award them.
Like I asked a few months ago; we’re hip-deep in ponies already. What do we get when Sir Chimpulous crosses the 30th parallel?
EPU’d.
Fahrender,
Look up HST’s article written on 9/12. It is shockingly accurate in what he predicts. He is sorely missed.
Look at this quote:
(Snip)
“The towers are gone now, reduced to bloody rubble, along with all hopes for Peace in Our Time, in the United States or any other country. Make no mistake about it: We are At War now — with somebody — and we will stay At War with that mysterious Enemy for the rest of our lives.â€
(Snip)
“It will be a Religious War, a sort of Christian Jihad, fueled by religious hatred and led by merciless fanatics on both sides. It will be guerilla warfare on a global scale, with no front lines and no identifiable enemy.â€
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn…..pe=package
-GSD
Jeb was always the hardworking. bright “good son” but kid brother George has fucked things up so badly that running for President is impossible for him now…
“the name Bush will be political plutonium for a thousand years.”
And, hopefully, that’s its half-life.
jinny #6, thanks for the link. That’s just what I came here to do. Jane, Christy, I am so not a lawyer, and Josh asks some interesting questions there. Can you comment?
Jeb on G-Dub:
“We were never that close.”
Whoohoo.
-GSD
oxide at 14 — oh man, that’s a good one. You think Jane and I aren’t watching for a Fitz sighting every day? *g* Nothing yet from any of my sources, but we’ll be sure and let you guys know whan we have anything.
Slothrop #17, good point.
Also, I recently read a blog post that said gambling is illegal in DC (perhaps for this very reason). If true, all involved have already broken the law, and committed high crimes and misdemenors.
I have finally achieved greatness as the newest EPU’d member — and if one does not mind greatly, and terribly off topic, here is what I wrote –
Re the Kos convention, my daughter is really urging me to go. I had said at first that I could not go because of money. Which is true, but there were additional reasons, including my disability and worrying that I would not be able to walk the distances.
But she is really urging me to go including offering some money. BUT I cannot access either the hotel site Reddhedd linked to above or the YearlyKos site.
I had been thinking about driving but there are airfares from Mpls. to Las Vegas for only $235 from Northwest. Can’t drive for that. ALSO, there might be a friend who dislikes Bush as much as we do that does not participate in blogs much but would love to attend. We shall see. It looks like a possibility at least.
So, what is the name of the hotel that the convention will be at? I can start with that.
Jeb on G-Dub:
“I don’t think you could find a picture of us together.”
No question about the handling of the rebuilding of NOLA? My prediction is that Bush will be blown into the sub 20s in August as hurricane Joyce roars through the gulf sending fuel prices into the stratosphere.
I’d really like to see JEB run. I’d be more worried about someone like McCain, who has several narratives he could trot out to distance himself from George, who will be electoral poison. With the brother, not so much.
Congressman Bob Ney (Official A in some indictments) went to a private London gambling club while on a junket and allegedly won $35,000 which nicely paid off a $34,000 credit card bill he’d been carrying… quelle surprise!
Sharkbabe–the downside is that it only takes a few micrograms of plutonium to kill you.
Actually, the NYT poll shows something very interesting. The only reason his overall approval is as high as 31% is the terrorism. If you knock out the terrorism plank, this guy has got absolutely, positively, nothing. Nothing. We’re talking approval ratings below Nixon’s at his resignation (26%).
Shows pretty clearly where the jugular is at. On substance the King is weak on terrorism and it shouldn’t even take a very aggressive stance to pull it down. Which would be doing the nation good, because on substantive issues of security we need new leadership.
GrandmaJ at 26 — the convention will be held at the Riviera. Sorry you can’t seem to get through on the YearlyKos website. I was on there this morning with no problems, but sometimes one server or the other will read things differently (for reasons my non-tech brain does not understand). But it’s at the Riv from June 8-11. Hope this helps — let me know if you need any further information.
!Dang, this is getting ugly.
Professor 31,
That’s why the October Surprise will be another, spectacular, domestic terrorist attack.
Re these nos: Last night on Dobbs I caught just a comment from a wingnut talk radio guy that had me wondering… (comments from Randi are just to provide context)
I was just wondering if the right wing radio hosts are now telling their listeners to LIE to pollsters in order to get Dumbass’ nos. up. Like I said it was just a quick throwaway quote but still…
Of course Jeb’s running, but not this time.
Jeb’s too smart to run in 2008 and get whacked due to his brother’s crappy record. Nope, he’ll be behind the scenes as our country melts down after eight years of criminal mis-management by G.W., directing the noise machine to blame whatever Dem wins the ‘08 election for all the chickens coming home to roost: the toileted economy, the mess in Iraq/Iran/Syria/etc, the environment and global warming, the total lack of prep for natural disasters; oh man it’s just too much to think about, let alone try to figure out how to fix—in just four years. (Of course, my guess is that Hilary is their only chance to save the presidency in their mind. Murdoch raising money makes sense, in that context, um?)
But then Jeb steps in as the saving hero from the moderate Right in 2012. The wingers will back him, moderate GOPers will back him, and the blame machine will be turned on full blast to claim that only the GOP can fix this mess the Dem’s have got us into.
It’s Limbo Time!
[cue steel drums]
“How loooooow can you go?”
Wilson 30–yes, when I read that the first time, I thought about the scene in Casablanca.
It’s also always made me wonder about where the Indian Tribes got all that money to give to the Republican campaigns through Abramoff.
Do I remember correctly that most of them ran casinos? /coy
#17 Slothrop says:
May 10th, 2006 at 8:56 am
…
“Poker party†= transfer of wealth from those wanting favors to those who can award them.
and — then after ‘winning big’ at poker — congressman X can afford the hig priced hooker in the back room . . . how COZY!!! that is what i call hospitality . . .
then lobbist Y takes the contract and pours some of it back to help more gop congressman get elected . . .
it is the circle of gop life!!!
Mary Cheney, a class act, just like dear old dad.
“Sitting in the studio audience when Edwards mentioned her sexual orientation, Cheney said she looked at the vice-presidential candidate and mouthed the words”Go F*** Yourself” a phrase her father had earlier employed against Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy.”
Nice family, nice people those Cheney’s.
-GSD
the Riviera? sounds kinda French, if ya know what I mean, Vern …
Here’s my fantasy for what happens with Frist’s homos-and-flags garbage this June. In every single press conference and every single floor debate, every single Democrat says exactly the same thing: “Why are we talking about this when we should be talking about gas prices and Iraq?” Over and over again. Not a single other soundbite from Dems on the issue. To the point of absurdity, because any debate on marriage and flag burning would be absurd in times like these.
You know, in retrospect, Jimmy Carter looks like a better president that contemporaneous polls indicate. For one thing, historical perspective shows that many of the problems that gave the country it’s malaise were not of his making. That’s even somewhat true for that bastard Nixon, although many of his problems were self-made.
On the other hand, regardless of how low he goes in the polls, the presidency of George W. Bush will look worse and worse in the harsh light of history. Worst. President. Ever.
I read every post on “Late Night” last night. There were a number of negative posts about the Democrats and how spineless they are and how even if they do regain power that they won’t carpe the diem. Some of these were well argued and touching (especially Mary’s). So I address this to them:
Please people, this is an historic moment. Karl Rove isn’t God or even a genius. He is very, very, clevah, but cleverness has it’s limits, and I think Karl has been steamrollered by events (yes, quite a few of them of his own making-one of the problems of too much cleverness).
Do not stand idly by. Do not be seduced by third party koolaid. Karl himself might try to engineer one. As we know, he’s an excellent bridge salesman.
Do make choices, and work for the person you believe to be the best possible candidate. Above all, keep the big picture in mind: end this agony in which we are presently living. This is job number one.
Many other things do matter. But unless we get rid of the current bunch of crooks, things will only get worse.
Make choices. Take action. It will be very hard. Very hard. But it’s not complicated.
I still think he’s begging to be impeached. They’re calling Hayden & Frists little actions a base pleasing move, What base?
Does he really think that picking a fight with Iran is going to make anybody outside of rumsfeld & cheney’s offices happy?
He’s fucked us over so badly & now, on cue, he’s ready to walk away.
GrandmaJ: The site appears to be down at present. When it comes up, you will find
The links to the hotel on the left hand side – it’s the Riviera Hotel.
http://www.yearlykos.org/
and
http://www.rivierahotel.com/mainpage.html
Thanks Christy. Appreciate your help.
Slothrop says:
May 10th, 2006 at 8:56 am
I just realized something about poker parties. They are an excellent means of transferring cash from one person to the next person…..
One thing I haven’t seen much written about is:
When one gets “checked out” for a clearance, the investigators want to know if the individual is “vulnerable”. As in – “what will this guy say/do when he has a belly full of beer and maker’s mark with a stripper sitting on his lap? And what if that stripper starts plying the individual about details of his job?”
These guys really need their heads examined…
GSD (#19): yeah, i’m finishing that book today. have you read “Kingdom of Fear”? Amazing, how he nailed it.
worst.president….ever
Looks like the Bush/Rove magic isn’t working. Bense will not run for Senate in FL. Repubs stuck with Harris.
http://www.sptimes.com/2006/05…..or_S.shtml
Which is great because I love Kathryn Harris. She’s so entertaining.
Fitz was here yesterday.
Smacking down the bad guys at home.
“Do you mind if I call you Steppen Fetchitt?”
Bush rubs Alphonso Jacksons’ head for good luck.
http://www.perrspectives.com/b…..000387.htm
-GSD
I once read this:
During Jimmy Carter’s presidency, the only US military service personel to die in active duty were the (four?) persons killed in a helicopter accident during the aborted rescue attempt of hostages in Iraq.
If true, what an accomplishment!
Following up on Slothrop at #17, there seems to be a commong thread between:
1. Playing poker when you know you’re going to win.
2. Shooting planted quail.
3. Fishing a heavily stocked pond.
4. Hookers.
And perhaps, going into “business” with people who owe Daddy favors.
Meanwhile, while we’re laughing about the flag burning amendment and gay marriage ban, how is it that making the
welfare for the wealthytax cuts permanent is on the verge of reality. Accoring to today’s WashPo, “House consideration is scheduled for tonight, with the Senate likely to send the measure to the White House for the president’s signature by the end of the week.”How is it that a President with JAR’s that rival Nixon’s a month before his resignation can ram something this bad through the House and Senate?
MarkC (#29):
But what about the famous hug photo? and all of the smarmy stuff he said in Memphis? Looks to me that McCain could be swiftboated. Now that would be irony……..
There are only two things Bush can do to get back into the good graces of the public, raise his poll numbers, and thereby maybe keep the Rethuglicans in power. (1) Start a war against a “bad guy” somewhere, or (2) have a heart attack. (Of course, he could do both.) I look for something along these lines to happen in July or August, because by then Bush will be dealing with new hurricanes, and he will be camping out in the brain-curdling heat of Central Texas, chopping cedar and riding his bike in the middle of the day, instead of cooling off on a mountain somewhere.
Here’s who I have been working for since February – she is more moderate than progressive, but is providing the first real challenge to TRMPAC Monkeyboy John Carter – a very decent gal with both kids in the military, one currently deployed in Iraq AND she is playing well to the folks here in God’s country
Central Texans – Get On It !
MaryBethHarrell
GSD says:
May 10th, 2006 at 9:08 am
Mary Cheney, a class act, just like dear old dad.
“Sitting in the studio audience when Edwards mentioned her sexual orientation, Cheney said she looked at the vice-presidential candidate and mouthed the wordsâ€Go F*** Yourself’’ a phrase her father had earlier employed against Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy.â€
Nice family, nice people those Cheney’s.
-GSD
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This story is going to have legs, especially the next time the gay marriage debate comes around. Mary used to be the house lesbian for Coors, and now she’s pissed that Kerry and Edwards brought up her sexuality? She’s doing little to dispel her image as a self-hating lesbian. I’ll give her props if she can derail the federal marriage amendment, but thus far, I haven’t seen anything positive about her. My big question is: Who’s going to buy her book? Hard core Republicans? No. Gays? Maybe the right-wing Republican gays, but I can’t see mainstream gays flocking to amazon for this book.
If folks are not on his dispatch list, the lates Dahr Jamail is an important piece – “All of us participate in a New Iraq”:
http://dahrjamailiraq.com/hard_news/
If Bush has only tied the low point of his father, you know that he is going to do all he can to go lower.
Christy:
I agree with you that the most important thing is to participate.
For the first time in my life, I’m hosting a fund-raiser for Chris Carney, PA democratic candidate for Congress. I don’t come from money, so I’m doing it as a pot-luck lunch. My husband will play acoustic guitar, we’ll have games for the kids and Chris will have an opportunity to meet potential voters.
Chris is a great candidate, he’s an intelligence analyst at the Pentagon and young.
All of us can do the same.
Kalina77
GSD
While definitely inelegant, I totally agree with Mary Cheney’s sentiment. IT was hella awkward when Kerry and Edwards mentioned her sexuality out of context, and always made me cringe as a fellow dyke.
Still, funny that she repeated daddy Dick’s favorite phrase.
siun thanks for linking that piece by Dahr. This had me in tears:
>>>>>>>
At one point during that presentation in Austin, I attempted in vain to describe to the audience what life in Baghdad is like. It was in vain, because how can anyone in the United States begin to imagine what it is like to be invaded, to have our infrastructure shattered, to have occupying soldiers photographing detained Americans in forced humiliating sexual acts and then to have these displayed on television, to have our churches raided and worshippers therein shot and killed by occupation troops?
It is only when more people in the US begin to fathom the totality of the destruction in Iraq that one may expect to hear the public outcry and uprising necessary to end the occupation and bring to justice the war criminals responsible for these conditions. Until that happens, make no mistake: all of us participate in a new Iraq, our hands dyed in the blood of innocents.
Tommy 34: my own anecdotal reading is that people support at 46% because there hasn’t been a second attack: “we’re fighting them there so we don’t have to fight them here”. I think a second attack, after 5 years on the job, and after making that your Iraq plank, makes 46% go down to 12%.
A second attack might make people wave a lot of flags and even passively accept all sorts of draconian nonsense, but I don’t think it will make them approve of the King, and it won’t make them vote for the King’s Men in November.
Of course, I’m the person who in 2002 thought that if the King took us to war in Iraq and didn’t find WMD, he wouldn’t even make 40% in the 2004 election. Shows my political analysis acumen.
Progressive meme: would you trust these clowns to walk your dog? There is no competence in republican politics. Most blue-collar Clinton voters have had to put up with incompetent cronyism/nepotism on the job (I did. I still get pissed thinking about that lazy asshole). Everybody resents having to clean up after the bosses’ friend or relative. Make the message personal, in the home and in the workplace. We’ve got a huge mess to clean up. You happy about that?
BUT BY ALL MEANS CHOKE BACK “I TOLD YOU SO.’ Let’s not screw this up with playground comdescension.
‘Bubble, bubble, who’s got the bubble?’
;>)
GrandmaJ contact me at opera99 att rochester dott rr dott comm if you decide to go and want to share a room. (Won’t see my email until this evening.)
-(Ms.)op99
Peterr (#56):
Peter, they know they’re going down. It’s now or never for them. What have they got to lose?
GrandmaJ – It would be wonderful to have you at YKOS … the plans are stellar. I’m working on the media team and just from the past few days I can tell you this is going to be quite the convention – it’s really feeling like a historic gathering. The Riviera can be called at:
1-800-634-6753 and you can just tell them you want the YearlyKos rate.
The website is being worked on – the organizing is all volunteer and the site is one area where we just have not had as much help as we’d like (ironic, eh?) – but keep checking ‘cos the announcements of speakers and events are coming fast and furious now.
http://liberty.horneforcongres…..num289.php
Peter DeFazio (D-OR) has introduced a house resolution [H.C.R. 391] to express the sense of Congress that the President cannot initiate military action against Iran without congressional authorization, as clearly required by the Constitution in Article One, Section Eight.
kristinejoy (#64):
i agree. i cringed when i heard edwards say that. i’m sure it was a consultant’s idea. it did not sound at all genuine. i like a lot of what edwards stands for but this wasn’t something he should’ve gotten into.
OT – but brief.
Cunningham is apparently no longer cooperating…
http://www.nctimes.com/article…..5_9_06.txt
(via Raw Story)
Quote of the Day:
“You look mighty comfortable.”
President Bush, to a man in a wheelchair, May 9, 2006.
Fahrender @70: Who is this “They” that is going down? For whom is it now or never? I can see why *Bush* would push for the cuts, but why will the House and Senate Republicans go along with someone whose ratings are so low?
Sure, the Dow Jones index is high, but so are energy prices . . . and the energy costs are gonna be a real drag, real soon. Housing foreclosures are way up. Health care costs still scare folks, even – or especially – with the Medicare drug program. If the House and Senate republicans think the economy is doing just great, they really ought to get in touch with the folks who are just a paycheck away from bankrupcy – even the “new and improved” version of it passed last year.
the reason Bush can’t recover is simple…. people no longer like, trust, or respect him as a person.
Americans have never approved of Bush’s policies — even right before the invasion of Iraq, a majority thought we should go in only with UN support. Unlike with Clinton, whose “personal favorability” numbers were almost completely disconnected from his “job approval” numbers, Bush’s job approval is directly tied to his “favorability”.
Back in July 2002, bush had 64% favorability, and 70% job approval ratings. Now, his favorability is down to twenty-nine percent in the Times poll. Its taken 5 and a half years, but the vast majority of Americans have finally figured out what we’ve known since the election was stolen — George W Bush is a bum.
professor 66,
that’s my fondest wish, that the guy who has nominal support for “keeping us safe” will be hoist by his own petard if there’s any kind of domestic security breach. i worry about marshal law, but am only courting trouble.
does anyone else think rove is just going to start using these low poll numbers for the “yes bush is terrible, but our man mccain is great” push in the run-up to 2008?
off topic and yesterday’s news, but…
i for one sure did enjoy Hardball yesterday, where Tweety and Ed Rollins were openly describing Katherine Harris as unhinged, as in having lost her marbles.
sic semper tyrannus!
angie … the Dahr piece hit me hard.
Things like the Dem strategic cspan panel thing yesterday on foreign policy are so distresing because they don’t get it either – I’d like them all to have to spend one day, one day not in the green zone but in an iraqi neighborhood … seems that’s what it would take to make the reality clear.
resophonic #55
It’s the being born on third base and thinking you’ve hit a triple phenomenon.
Frank #60
Self-hating lesbians? That’s a little over the top. Self-hating gays in politics are in the closet, lying to their spouses and children while supporting legislation to keep everyone in the closet, just like them.
Parents don’t ask for gay children. And gay people don’t ask to be born into conservative families. Walking the line between self acceptance and being a good supportive child is a difficult task, one that she has had to take on in a very public setting. No matter what her or her family’s politics are, she has my support.
marksb #36
ouch. Yes, that’s certainly a likely scenario if the dems don’t make reforms that trim the sails of the corporate powers. Which is why I’m hoping for Gore or Feingold or one of those possible candidates that have a real appreciation for the structural forces that have brought Bush to power, and that will continue to exist even if he is impeached.
fahrender #57
As Colbert says, the man might eat his salad with a spoon. Which is why he has so much dry cleaning. As marksb points out, it isn’t so much his actual behavior, etc. It is really a matter of his media simulacrum.
AvengingAngel 75
Quote of the Day:
“You look mighty comfortable.â€
President Bush, to a man in a wheelchair, May 9, 2006.
That is so wrong….what a colossal jerk
Christy–let’s say Shuster is right and Fitz will soon seek an indictment. How long would it take a prosecutor to make the case to the GJ? This is a new GJ–does he have to go thru the whole history to get them up to speed? Is this one day but lasting several hours, or does this take days?
YEARLY KOS is back up now:
http://www.yearlykos.org/
Ed N Sted says: “Cunningham is apparently no longer cooperating…”
May 10th, 2006 at 9:36 am
For more details, please look at Josh Marshall’s comments in his two most recent posts: http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
Peterr (#76):
they ought to, but they’re not. they’re in touch with “their base” and it’s shrinking. they’re in denial. they’re delusional. they’re still in group think mode. a lot of them are going down, not just Peabrain. and the more they do stuff like this, the more of them will get whipped in november. i agree, it isn’t rational, but hey, these are not rational times for the boys in charge.
Today MoDo highlighted an element of this poll that is referenced in the concluding paragraphs of the NYT story. Gore has a 28% approval rating.
How can this be???
Jane S. at 86 — It depends on what they would be presenting for indictment, but it is likely that they’d have to go back through the testimony transcripts and present other evidence as well. It could be a one or two day thing, or longer, depending on how much evidence there is to present. Honestly, it is a fairly fluid thing — and it all depends on the strength of each, individual case.
Christy – If your plea agreement and sentencing recommendation is based on your cooperation, does refusing to cooperate void the agreement and subject you to a harsher sentence?
Mary Cheney is supporting people who would crimilize homosexuality in a heartbeat. Who would gladly send gays to reindoctrination camps.
She is epitome of a sellout and I have nothing but scorn for her and her sanctimoniousness.
She now comes out with a book, well after the election to make a statement. This shows her to be a greedy moral coward to boot.
-GSD
Coupla things. I’m still scare that the people in this country will allow themselves to be dupped again by the GOP. The GOP fog machine of Gay marriage, Iran, Judges, Terrorists seems to make people stupid.
Dems ought to run on two ideas: restoring balance to Congress by voting democratic and pointing out that three more years of Bush/GOP congress will ruin this country for a long time. Vote democratic to restore balance, even if you have to hold your nose doing it. Making positive changes is up to the citizens of this country. Despite our differences, the overall health of our coutnry is in our hands and we have to do the right thing GOP and Dem alike.
Just wanted to hip folks to Howard Fineman’s prognostications on Rove’s “new” plan for the resurgent Fourth Reich at the mid-terms…located at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12703794/
Here’s an excerpt:
The conventional notion here is that Democrats want to “nationalize†the 2006 elections — dwelling on broad themes (that is, the failures of the Bush Administration) — while the Republicans will try to “localize†them as individual contests that have nothing to do with, ahem, the goings on in the capital.
That was before the GOP situation got so desperate. The way I read the recent moves of Karl Rove & Co., they are preparing to wage war the only way open to them: not by touting George Bush, Lord knows, but by waging a national campaign to paint a nightmarish picture of what a Democratic Congress would look like, and to portray that possibility, in turn, as prelude to the even more nightmarish scenario: the return of a Democrat (Hillary) to the White House.
Celebration Music! For those of you who would like to put some tunes to the mood, try the new Springsteen “Seeger Sessions”. Just got my CD and whether you’re a Springsteen fan or not or a Pete Seeger fan or not, this is defintely great stuff!
punaise: i left you an answer to your question on “Late Night”.
for many years, the reactionary Coors family and its beer company reveled in its backward image. People increasingly protested and boycotts were started by labor and gays. To break out of its isolation, “professional dyke” Mary Cheney and also “Mr. Denver Leather” were hired to do community outreach to LGBT folk. That’s hardly a closet case!
Mimir #90, people still think of Al Gore as he was portrayed in the 2000 election, the guy who said he invented the internet and was the inspiration for Love Story. The msm hasn’t covered any of his speeches, his tv network, his books, or his new documentary.
I think that his numbers will rise as time goes on. My guess is that he’s laying low and, if he decides to run, will come out like a runaway train sometime next year.
Badwater #62 – I love you.
PL, #77 – I’ve been saying that since the day Bush first took office. I could not understand why the DC Dems wouldn’t fight against the man’s policies despite his personal approval ratings (which I knew would drop because his “uniter” persona was nothing but a shit suit). Didn’t they learn anything with Clinton, who no one like personally but still supported (with quite high poll numbers) because people liked the job he did and policies he pursued?
fahrender 97 – got it, thanks. I must have been too tired to see the obvious: “testing your mettle”
(synopsis: sharkbabe’s toe thing / various follow-ups / mettle to the pedal / testing his mettle)
guess you had to be there….
Candace Gingrich is a wonderful example of how a self-respecting gay person might deal with a reactionary family member. Mary Cheney, by contrast, seems like a spoiled brat adolescent.
It may sound like a political neophyte’s bombast – but please trot out that Gay Marriage/Gay Adoption shit again -
Santorum is still considered the most vulnerable incumbent (presently trailing Casey by 14 points) MSNBC is running his free jet plane rides as I type
With much love and all due respect to my Gay and Lesbian sisters and brothers – I have never been the target of organized hate – just making the point that the local Bubbas are a lot less concerned this time around – nobody gives a shit about ‘Adam & Steve’ when it takes $60 to fill your tank
Informed sources say only about half the fundie boots on the ground will be out this November – so that’s what, 15% of the votes – oh please, go ahead and hate all over yourself Ricky
Hmmm, color me a pollyanna but I really don’t think I’m going to be sent to a concentration camp anytime soon. Two kids, doing great in school, great partner, I’m pretty much a soccer mom right now.
We need to get through this period of blow-back with our community and our integrity intact.
PS No, I won’t be buying her book.
Is it even accurate to call them the Rubber Stamp Congress? It seems more notable that they control everything but aren’t getting anything done (except doling out dollars to pals, where it’s true they’re very rubbery)
Maybe it’s more accurate to call them the “Out of Gas” Congress.
What’s often not appreciated is that the bible-thumper rank-and-file really don’t care that much about politics — never have, they’ve just been convinced by some snake oil salesman amongst them that the Rs are in their corner. This could turn into a rout if they return to their main concerns of family, faith, daily life and work, disillusioned in their erstwhile champions in the secular sphere.
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Christy (91): Didn’t mean to put you on the spot. I just had this fantasy that Fitz would meet with them today and make his case and then Friday, he’d ask them for an indictment. It doesn’t look like he is around DC today.
It is, perhaps, a fantasy which many of us share…
whoa there nelly!
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RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Judge J. Michael Luttig has resigned from the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals to accept a job as senior vice president and general counsel for Boeing Co., the company and the court said Wednesday.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s…..SECTION=US
GrandmaJ: I have $100 to donate if you decide to go.
The bad news is that he doesn’t give a shit.
ps Wish it could be more right now, but I’m not a Republican!
Anne at 92 — yes, it certainly can, depending on what the plea says. If cooperation was a requirement of the plea, then the prosecutor’s can move to void the agreement and ask that the full sentence be imposed or for other penalties.
I’m under the impression prosecutors like to secure indictments on the Fridays before a family-oriented holiday, so that those indicted can contemplate the impact it’s having on the spouse and kids.
Libby was indicted right before Halloween…what’s it gonna be for Rove, Mother’s Day or Memorial Day?
NM Guy @ 9:15 am (#48) – That’s not the only problem, or even the most basic one. I don’t know what gambling laws allow in the DC area, but soliciting a prostitute is a crime just about everywhere. That alone makes these guys vulnerable to blackmail.
People with clearances do such things, but they usually have the good sense to not do them in such a brazen manner.
O/T – The Goslings
have all four been identified by anyone yet ?
Murray
Brant ‘Nine Fingers’Basset
the other 2 ??
(y’all know a brant is a small N. American goose, right?)
Slothrop #17–I do believe you have something there. Haven’t seen that point made and it certainly seems obvious now that you’ve said it.
All the focus on hookers certainly proves a distraction, don’t it.
Imagine if Fitz! gave us this as a mother’s day gift! That is all I would want this year for sure (hope my son doesn’t read this!)
OT– Putin’s soul seems riled:
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“Where is all this pathos about protecting human rights and democracy when it comes to the need to pursue their own interests?” said Putin.
“We are aware what is going on in the world. Comrade wolf knows whom to eat, it eats without listening, and it’s clearly not going to listen to anyone,” he said — using the common fairy-tale wolf character to criticize the aggressive U.S. course in global affairs.
Devoting much of the hourlong speech to defense, Putin stressed that Russia needs a strong military not only to guard against terrorism and attacks but also to resist political pressure from abroad, and said that Russia’s military budget is 25 times lower than that of the United States.
“Their house is their fortress — good for them,” he said. “But that means that we also must make our house strong and reliable.”
“We must always be ready to counter any attempts to pressure Russia in order to strengthen positions at our expense,” Putin said. “The stronger our military is, the less temptation there will be to exert such pressure on us.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..ssia_putin
20 *ilson46201 says:
May 10th, 2006 at 8:57 am (# 20)
Jeb was always the hardworking. bright “good son†but kid brother George has fucked things up so badly that running for President is impossible for him now…
Dude,…I hope you’re kidding, if not, find a copy of Al Martin’s The Conspirators written from the author’s inside perspective as a convicted Iran-Contra criminal. That book, besides giving the lowdown on the mechanics of Bush Crime Family fraud, will also provide a great perspective on J.E.B.
You will find W innocuous in comparison…
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Clip from Rude Pundit, talking about how the GOP is using the “if Dems win, they will chimpeach the prez” tactic, pretending that nobody wants that:
Goddamn, isn’t that breathtakingly direct? It makes Republicans have to either run scared or respond with something along the lines of “I don’t want them impeached because I believe in the jobs that Bush and Cheney are doing,” which, you know, almost two-thirds of the nation doesn’t believe. Hell, at this point, more people disapprove of Bush and his administration than oppose gay marriage.
The Impeachment Campaign, Part 2: Impractical Impeachment Politics
Hmmm, color me a pollyanna but I really don’t think I’m going to be sent to a concentration camp anytime soon. Two kids, doing great in school, great partner, I’m pretty much a soccer mom right now.
To set the record straight, no one said anything about being sent to a “concentration” camp. I think the term was “reindoctrination”, something totally different.
I don’t support Mary Cheney just because she’s gay, no more than I support her because she’s a woman, no more than I support someone because of their race, etc. I realize that it’s difficult for gays/lesbians who are born into conservative families. I tend to judge people based on their acts, not their circumstances, and given MC’s actions, I really, really, really have a hard time seeing her as a lesbian who is struggling to keep the peace with her very conservative family. Unless one would define “struggling to keep the peace” as “totally giving into and cooperating with a political party that works against your rights as an American just because they don’t like who you sleep with”. But that’s just my opinion.
Christy 113 –
Josh Marshall says that Duke is 68, he has cancer, and the current sentence may already be a death sentence.
If part of his deal was for medium or minimum security, could that be revoked in favor of less pleasant accommodations?
116 Is Brant’s goose cooked?
46% approve of his job handling terrorism? WTF?!? What exactly is he doing about terrorism that everyone is so happy about? Is it the no-fly list? I don’t know about anyone else, but as far as I’m concerned the only thing that matters is bin Laden. Mr. President, exactly where is Osama and what happened to “dead or alive”?
ck at 122– the short answer is yes. Prosecutors have a lot of leeway in tightening the thumb screws on a non-cooperating defendant.
Cliff Varnell @ 114 – Rove has a mother???
Forty-two percent of respondents said they considered Mr. Bush a strong leader, a drop of 11 points since January.
I wonder, is “strong leader” a positive or negative? Not too many people would doubt that Saddam, Hitler, and Stalin were strong leaders too.
Kalina77 at 63
Boots on the ground, with guitar. That’s what’s needed. Winning won’t happen without the basic work of raising money and getting the vote out.
For Iowans lurking here, Selden Spencer (versus Tom Latham R-IA 4) really needs your help, too.
Sorta OT There doesn’t seem to be one “Democratic Plan” for health care. If you were advising a campaign, what would you propose? If you have thoughts, susan at omnitelcom dot com Thanks.
Kerry fires back @ Mary:
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Kerry spokesman David Wade said Mary Cheney had “flacked for the most anti-gay administration in history.”
“Seems like a suspicious lecture from a political operative who flacked for the most anti-gay administration in history and allowed Karl Rove to divide America for political gain,” Wade said. “She’d be more credible if she pushed dad’s administration to support hate crimes legislation and equal rights for gay Americans.â€
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0510.html
Dilireus, #124 – my theory is that so many still support him on that because “nothing’s happened here since 9/11″ (the main reason why so many people on the fence in 2004 seemed to vote for him in the end). And it is my sincere opinion that had not Katrina happend and highlighted how woefully unprepared we still are for major disasters, that number would still be in the high 50s — despite his other low numbers. If anything happens on our soil in future that hints at being related to a terror organization, that 46% drops, big time.
Flyin’ by — just saw a heading on MSNBC’s website that Rove’s developing new fall strategy. What? How to explain all the indictments? Why the acronym now is not compassionate conservatives; it’s corrupt, crony, criminal conservatives? I refused to click it but reporting here.
And hey, how about that scraping the bottom birth rate among industrialized nations. Sure speaks well for the pro-lifers. We love our babies when they’re preborn nice little dreamy fantasy abstractions, but once they’re out there, hey, fuggedaboudit.
Backing up now to read comments.
Slothrop #17 – wasn’t there also a connection in England where one of Abramoff’s tribe of Congressmen went out gambling and low and behold won a bundle? Was about $30,000. God I miss my memory cells. Anyway, good point.
P.S. Almost forgot — Happy Anniversary to the celebrants of the Zip to Zap, May 10, 1969. Global headlines, good times, enough t-shirt sales to get me to DC for the Senate summer internship. Ah, the pleistoscene age…. just call me a Founding Mother.
TALLAHASSEE — Citing both family and business considerations, House Speaker Allan Bense announced Wednesday that he will not challenge U.S. Rep. Katherine Harris for the Republican nomination for U.S. Senate.
Bense’s decision leaves the Republican Party with no alternative to Harris, who trails far behind Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson in polls. The deadline for candidates to qualify for the Senate seat is noon Friday.
“A majority said Republican members of Congress were more likely to be financially corrupt than Democratic members of Congress, suggesting that Democrats may be making headway in their efforts to portray Republicans as having created a “culture of corruption” in Washington.”
hmm … shouldn’t that read:
“… suggesting that Republicans may be failing in their efforts to portray a bi-partisan “culture of corruption” in Washington.”
Look, I don’t get gay republicans–hell, I don’t get straight republicans. What about black republicans–they exist on tv at least.
But, I do support Mary Cheney’s right to tell her story, just because she is a lesbian. Visibility is vitally important to my family. Just my opinion.
FEATHER SOUND – A Democrat running for attorney general on Tuesday again called for an investigation whether the privacy of state workers was compromised when their personnel files were shipped to India in an outsourcing deal backed by Gov. Jeb Bush.
State Sen. Walter “Skip” Campbell, D-Tamarac, told the Suncoast Tiger Bay Club that state Attorney General Charlie Crist has failed to properly investigate the privatization of personnel records for more than 100,000 state employees, including judges and state troopers.
Prairie Sunshine #132
those numbers were equally embaraasing during Bush 41’s reign – I remember reading UN numbers showing they actually went up 40% in Clinton’s first 5 years -
Mainsailset at 133 — you might be thinking of Bob Ney winning $35,000 at a private gambling club in England on an Abramoff junket — which, as luck would have it, covered his $34,900 credit card debt. What a coinky-dink.
#132, Prairie Sunshire: And hey, how about that scraping the bottom birth rate among industrialized nations. Sure speaks well for the pro-lifers.
No joke. This is a national disgrace. Where is the party of ideas on this?
I’ve met Jeb, he is articulate and intelligent. As a semi FL resident I don’t agree with many of things he has done but I’ll give credit where it is earned.
Dubya’s presidency is a lesson for our children on what happens when the popular cool kid, who happens to be a dope, gets picked to be the captain of the team.
I am sure there is lot of pain in the Bush Sr household over how different things might have been if “the smart one” had been elected.
Professor Foland, #11:
I always thought that line was from Sinclair Lewis, originally of my home state. Can’t document it however, so I’ll defer. Or maybe we could compromise on “Upton Sinclair Lewis”. ;-)
In the NYT article, why is the fact that people are viewing the Republicans as more financially corrupt described as “Democrats may be making headway in their efforts to portray Republicans as having created a “culture of corruption” in Washington.” rather than something like ‘people may be starting to pay attention to the level of corruption in the Republican controlled capital.’?
The NYT passage makes it sound like it is just some Dem PR campaign that is working, rather than the weight of the accumulating objective facts.
Also, in honor of my hero Stephen Colbert I propose that we always refer to the kool-aidiest members of the base as “the backwash”. Let’s get that term into that lexicon that did not give him credit for ‘truthiness’!!!
I think I’m gonna hurl…
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ORLANDO, Fla. (MSNBC/AP) – President Bush suggested Wednesday that he’d like to see his family’s White House legacy continue, perhaps with his younger brother Jeb as the chief executive.
The president said Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is well-suited for another office and would make “a great president. 
Sorry to be off topic here, but I just spent a good portion of my lunch break trying to find out how many times Jack A. really DID visit the WH? (Assuming they don’t like about that, too.)
Any news?
I voted on that JohnO–I think my guess was 1,669
John O @ 146: Haven’t heard anything since this:
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2…..in-office/
“W” at 31% is not doing Jeb any favors by endorsing him. In fact, maybe he is intentially touting him to hurt his chances. He has this Freudian rivalry going with his father, doing the opposite of everything he did. He certainly must have some sibling rivalry too, particulary since Jeb is the smart one. And Jeb actually speaks Spanish.
I live in Florida full time and I am trying to think of some good Jeb has done……still thinking……
As far as I know, he is just another big time nothing. Without the Bush name, where would either of them have gotten? Honestly?
I for one, can’t wait until both of them are out. Supporting the troops does’t mean magnets. The bush name is so bad right now that I’m thinking of pulling out the bushes in my garden.
Hey, C Span is not broadcasting Denny Hastert’s Tea Party (2:30 est) !!!
John O #146 – not yet, keep checking Judicial Watch’s site for press releases
(btw, my guess is 79!)
Has everyone seen the Raw Story article on the Missing 200K AK47’s ? can’t seem to make the link – anyone ?
And as the Schiavo episode showed Jeb is forward thinking and above exploiting family tragedy for political gain.
Dilireus #125:
Yeah, the no-fly list is what everyone is so enthusiastic about to keep the terrorisim JAR at 46%. No on sure how you get on, once on you can’t get off even if obvious you shouldn’t be on. Gets bigger every year. Some one calculated another 5 years will be a million people on it. Some day we will all be on it, and then we will all be safe.
It is a work of genius.
Sharkbabe #13 & Prof Foland #31,
Somewhat OT re Plutonium
Once, while at a technical conference, I heard an advocate of nuclear power say “It’s said that a few grams of Plutonium can kill everyone in the country. That may be true. It’s also true that an ejaculation from a single healthy male contains enough live sperm to impregnate every woman of child-bearing age in the country. In both cases, however, the problem is one of distribution.” ;-)
my local Krogers Supermarket has some really great sale prices on Bush canned beans but I refuse to buy any on general principles — I joke with the store personnel about it and they quite understand !
149 “And Jeb actually speaks Spanish.”
LOL! And what language can it be said that GeeW speaks? Certainly isn’t English.
Early in this thread it was said that the Bush name would be radioactive. How sad. What have Jenna and Barbara to look forward to now?
cbl I read the story. will try to find it again now…
new thread
Did anyone see this?
Much bigger than the Dukestir. Rick Gwin, the Pentagon’s special agent in charge of the Cunningham investigation, on the scandal’s reach: “This is much bigger and wider than just Randy ‘Duke’ Cunningham. All that has just not come out yet, but it won’t be much longer and then you will know just how widespread this is.â€
From Think Progress
cbl– here it is:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/t….._page.html
I also would like to add that the last couple of elections were stolen. It has to be true. We have a voting crisis and not once has any Republican in office brought up this fact. They are all a bunch of little, little men.
linky no worky:
10 May 2006
HAVE 200,000 AK47S FALLEN INTO THE HANDS OF IRAQ TERRORISTS?
FEARS OVER SECRET U.S. ARMS SHIPMENT
SOME 200,000 guns the US sent to Iraqi security forces may have been smuggled to terrorists, it was feared yesterday.
The 99-tonne cache of AK47s was to have been secretly flown out from a US base in Bosnia. But the four planeloads of arms have vanished.
Orders for the deal to go ahead were given by the US Department of Defense. But the work was contracted out via a complex web of private arms traders.
And the Moldovan airline used to transport the shipment was blasted by the UN in 2003 for smuggling arms to Liberia, human rights group Amnesty has discovered.
It follows a separate probe claiming that thousands of guns meant for Iraq’s police and army instead went to al-Qaeda
Amnesty chief spokesman Mike Blakemore said: “It’s unbelievable that no one can account for 200,000 assault rifles. If these weapons have gone missing it’s a terrifying prospect.” American defence chiefs hired a US firm to take the guns, from the 90s Bosnian war, to Iraq.
But air traffic controllers in Baghdad have no record of the flights, which supposedly took off between July 2004 and July 2005. A coalition forces spokesman confirmed they had not received “any weapons from Bosnia” and added they were “not aware of any purchases for Iraq from Bosnia”. Nato and US officials have already voiced fears that Bosnian arms – sold by US, British and Swiss firms – are being passed to insurgents. A Nato spokesman said: “There’s no tracking mechanism to ensure they don’t fall into the wrong hands. There are concerns that some may have been siphoned off.” This year a newspaper claimed two UK firms were involved in a deal in which thousands of guns for Iraqi forces were re-routed to al-Qaeda.
One arms broker’s lawyer is said to have admitted that nearly all of a shipment of 1,500 AK-47s went missing. And a US official said £270million of equipment could not be traced.
Meanwhile, Aerocom, the Moldovan air firm at the centre of the 200,000 missing AK47s, was stripped of its licence by its national authorities a day before the first shipment.
Two other companies in the complicated sale claim to have papers proving the guns were delivered in Iraq but refuse to show them.
Amnesty has now called on Britain to clamp down on the arms trade.
Spokeswoman Kate Allen said: “It’s out of control and costing hundreds of thousands of lives every year. The UK has a real chance to do something about it when the UN meets in June.”
“…a few grams of Plutonium can kill everyone in the country…”
First of all , that’s crap. In more detail, Pu is an alpha-emitter, can’t even penetrate a sheet of paper (or your skin).
From Wiki:
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All isotopes and compounds of plutonium are toxic and radioactive. While plutonium is sometimes described in media reports as “the most toxic substance known to man”, there is general agreement among experts in the field that this is incorrect. As of 2006, there has yet to be a single human death officially attributed to exposure to plutonium itself (with the exception of plutonium-related criticality accidents). Naturally-occurring radium is about 200 times more radiotoxic than plutonium, and some organic toxins like Botulin toxin are still more toxic. Botulin toxin, in particular, has a lethal dose of 300pg/kg, far less than the quantity of plutonium that poses a significant cancer risk. In addition, beta and gamma emitters (including the C-14 and K-40 in nearly all food) can cause cancer on casual contact, which alpha emitters cannot.
When taken in by mouth, plutonium is less poisonous (except for risk of causing cancer) than several common substances including caffeine, acetaminophen, some vitamins, pseudoephedrine, and any number of plants and fungi. It is perhaps somewhat more poisonous than pure ethanol, but less so than tobacco; and many illegal drugs (some such as marijuana are negligibly poisonous). From a purely chemical standpoint, it is about as poisonous as lead and other heavy metals.
That said, there is no doubt that plutonium may be extremely dangerous when handled incorrectly. The alpha radiation it emits does not penetrate the skin, but can irradiate internal organs when plutonium is inhaled or ingested. Particularly at risk are the skeleton, whose surface it is likely to be absorbed on, and the liver, where it will collect and become concentrated. Approximately 0.008 microcuries absorbed in bone marrow is the maximum withstandable dose. Anything more is considered toxic. Extremely fine particles of plutonium (on the order of micrograms) can cause lung cancer if inhaled…
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So, it’s way complicated. Isotopes, ingestion pathways, etc.
*ilson46201 #9
Yes, Bush could pardon Cunningham – but the real Q is: could Bush pardon Satan?
My wild fantasy is that Katherine Harris, facing jail time for the bribery scandal, will flip and give them some dope on the 2000 recount to save her sorry ass. She strikes me as unstable and unmanageable in the extreme and I bet she knows where a few bodies are buried. Karl may have to authorize the Gus Boulis treatment for her.
BobbyG – #156
Bush speaks pidgin.
Geez, how many times can I be EPU’d with this?
GrandmaJ,
For the opportunity to enfold you in my arms and give you a big, long, hug, I will gladly contribute to a travel fund. Please come. Think of it as therapy.
Minnesotachuck–brain failure on Sinclair #11. Thanks for correcting it!
Bobbyg, MC–alpha emitters can be dangerous if inhaled, ingested, or if you expose your cornea to them. I think the quote is right that, correctly distributed (i.e. powdered and forced up everyone’s nasal passages), a few grams could kill everyone–and, as the article points out, that is just never going to happen.
But the real point was not scientific accuracy (which I’m normally all for, as a professional point of pride) but to point out that Bush’s extreme terribleness is very damaging to the country, even if we consider it a good thing that this terribleness will end up smearing his name.
Minnesota Chuck (#143):
you’re correct:
Google Says: Sinclair Lewis
Bobby G (#145):
Like the borscht belt joke:
“How’s your wife?”
“Compared to what?”
Compared to Peabrain?
Compared to Cheney?
Maybe we could let Jeb finish out Peabrain’s term?
What can the seventeen percent of respondents who support Bush’s handling of “the campaign against terror” but oppose that of “the situation in Iraq” be thinking?
The Iraq numbers have got to be a leading indicator here, because Iraq is the most concrete implementation of Bush’s terror policy. Hasn’t he called it the “central front” in his so-called war?
Keep an eye on that 46% number. It is a fire without fuel.
mk ultramaroon @#120; Never forget that Jeb is a signatory to the P.N.A.C. “Statement of Principles”, along with Cheney and a whole bunch of other nasty types. Shrub couldn’t read it, I guess. Check it out, if you haven’t already,
http://www.newamericancentury……ciples.htm
i would be very interested in how karl rove views these numbers. I seem to recall some recent polling data that also had something about how you feel about your rep or sen. And people by and large support the incumbent. Is Rove banking on that? Does he have some polling data or corrlation data that indicate the macro poll numbers don’t matter? I really think that he doesn’t care about these numbers cause he has a very different approach. If he can count on 30% minimum as base in each disputed region, he only needs to win 20% more of the total. That’s a nice headstart.
#64:
“While definitely inelegant, I totally agree with Mary Cheney’s sentiment. IT was hella awkward when Kerry and Edwards mentioned her sexuality out of context…”
What utter fucking bullshit.
Fact: Dick Cheney’s party has made cash dollars out of queer-bashing. The “homosexual agenda” is the wedge issue from Hell, as gays and lesbians are the last remaining social segment to whom it’s “okay” to deny American rights (just as although Constitutional rights were guaranteed on a Federal level to everyone, including Blacks, they had a heck of a time collecting on the deal).
Throughout all this, Mary Cheney has long worked as a high Republican operative to convince gays and lesbians that they had a stake in the GOP agenda (this, of course, is a lie, unless you consider the fact that DEFEATING the GOP may be the one means by which gays and lesbians keep themselves out of the gas chambers, worst case scenario). In fact, Mary Cheney’s entire career has been one big pile of cash and opportunity, based on nothing more than what she sleeps with at night.
John Edwards had every right to use the vice-presidential debates to illuminate the hypocrisy of Dick and his family. I will tell you: when he said what he said, I for one applauded him.
I assure you, when Mary Cheeny looked at Edwards and mouthed the words, “Go fuck yourself”, it wasn’t because, as a warm and sensitive human being, her diddle feelings were hurt. It was because, as a sociopathic GOP operative, her party was being, you’ll pardon the expression, “outed”. It was like the last scene in every “Mission: Impossible” TV episode, where the pigeons look around and realize that they, the Bad Guys, have been OUTSMARTED.
But the only reason the referees ultimately declared this a “gaffe” on Edwards’ part was because the MSM passively stenographed the GOP narrative that this was somehow off-limits for the Democrats. WHY? Is gayness only off-limits when Dick wants it to be… but when they need the queer vote, then it’s NOT?
Edwards’ point. And it ain’t like it’s the first time that the Official Story has been typed exactly as the GOP wanted it typed. But puh leeze, don’t gimme this hackneyed shit about how Edwards was out of line for mentioning it.
kristinejoy, I don’t know if you’re GLBT… I’m not, myself… but it seems to me you need to start learning about a very real effect of the so-called Republican noise machine: INTERNALIZING REPUBLICAN TALKING POINTS.
I get the feeling you’re here as a progressive. If that’s the case, you have a problem. If it also happens that you’re homosexual… you’ve got a BIGGER problem.
Because it means that lesbian black sheep Mary Cheney is leading your ass straight to the lamp shade factory.
siun says:
May 10th, 2006 at 10:20 am
Cliff Varnell @ 114 – Rove has a mother???
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Lemme check that…no! it’s *is* a mother…Actually, I’m betting May 19th so I was only hedging with this holiday thing…
Holden gets an arabian steed soon.
These numbers are not as hopeless as they may appear. Without question the most important number is the war on terror 46%. A political case can be made that nothing else matters much. 46%is not low enough as long as doubt can be cast on the alternatives to what the repubs are doing. Then, if just a little confidence can be restored, voters may well decide to once again stick with the devil they know. That is very doable as the Democratic strategists will once again mostly advise staying away from GWOT and try to avoid the repubs strength by talking about other things while agreeing with the repub approach to terror. Creting a circumstance in which the Repubs can regain the necessary 6+ percentage points by knocking down strawmen they themselves construct. This is not tennis where one plays to the opponents weakness. The repub’s strength has to be attacked and more doubt about it created.
Christy #140. Thanks, you’re the best!
I agree with BrooklynRaider #42
On these issues the Democrats should not only NOT DEBATE these bogus issues, they should ridicule it by saying we have several crisis proportion problems in America and all the Republicans can offer is to divide usâ€. Perhaps that explains why so many letters from my district call the Republicans, Repugs. Then the democrats talk about their agenda and don’t even respond to Republican talking points. When the Tweedy’s of the world ask about Gay marriage, Democrats respond by
“It’s been 5 plus years now and where is Bin Forgotten?†“When Middle Class Americans are facing a lower standard of living, higher gas prices and a war without end—you want to talk about Gay Marriage? When our men in uniform have been sold out to enrich corrupt defense contractors, you want to talk about Gay Marriage? When Katrina victims want relief, you want to talk about Gay Marriage. When Democrats are being stymied when trying to get answers, you talk of Gay Marriage? Have you no shame? Chris (or other shill’s name here), it’s sad to see that you continue to repeat Karl Rove’s talking points!†Put the Media Whore’s on the spot and intimidate them for a change!
Teak111—(#94):
I couldn’t agree with you less. One never starts by undermining your own position. The GOP will say the equivalent of “Hold your nose†for us. Let them go negative and focus on what you want to do in a positive sense.
Mayan (#95):
Let the GOP say what they want about how bad it could be with a Democratic Congress. Our response is simply “can we afford any more years of the governance that the Republican Congress has give us?†Then just reel off the disasters they have brought us, to remind folks of how much worse it could get if we allow them to continue. Rove’s strategy of fear should be used to turn the tables on them. Then hammer it home with, “The Contract On America promised us that we would get cleaner government with a Republican Congress and these guys make the 94 Democrats look like choir boys.†This has the added bonus of turning the language on them. Every time a Republican says “we are doing this for the American peopleâ€, we should respond with “is that for or to?†Or when the Republicans talk of the risk of Democrats in control, we should respond with: “Under Republican Leadership, we’ve had the CIA turned into Fema and neither can now organize a 2 car paradeâ€.
JaneS (#107):
I thought that Fitz was going to announce a press conference for the following day, before he rolls out the indictments. My guess is that the GJ will vote, the clerical stuff will be finalized that late afternoon, the defendants notified on Thursday as the Website lists a press conference on Friday.
Cbl (#116)
I heard that the 4th one was working under cover for the CIA—so I wouldn’t say who it was if I new. Considering what the Plame outrage is really about (aside from the lying).
Twolf1 (#121)
Before we get there, we need a series of well reported polls that 1st ask: Do you believe we should have a comprehensive review of how we got into the war? If, after learning that Bush deceived us, would you support:
1.Censure
2. Impeachment
3. No action at all.
Push that poll through the minds of most Americans for a few months before you push any strategy that says “we will impeach Bushâ€. Don’t get me wrong, I want to see Smirky wearing an Orange Jumpsuit with Karl, Dick, Rummy, etc.
Splash (#165):
In terms of Bush pardoning Satan, I’m sure that Karl Rove’s pardon is already being planned!
In a great history (”When Genius Failed”) of the collapse of the Long Term Capital Managament hedge fund (which threatened the whole of the US market system a story is told of a wise old Wall Street trader who was asked for advice when LTCM investments had lost more than 50% of their value, he said:
“your done, once they see they can get you below 50% they know they can go all the way.”
Now, just add in a little Fitz, Abramoff, torture, debt, tax cuts, and illegal wiretaps….
Sadly, the Democrats have as little respect for the U.S. Constitution and the rights of the people, as the Republicans.
It’s quite a sick game they have us locked into – vote for either party (but never for a third) and you get the same thing – BIGGER GOVERNMENT!!!
When are we going to wake up? Today’s government devours rights – it doesn’t protect them. Gridlock (or a third party victory) is the best we can hope for.