Fitz!

Fitzarooni!

Oh, Matt, you were so damn close! Fitz!

Orwell is saying, “See, I told you.”

The country won’t be fixed by rewarding tepid riskless politicians with more money and votes. Most congresscritters are whores that work for corporations, but if they see money and votes go elsewhere, it forces them to change their pandering in order to get back to the money flow.

Every time the political system changed in America, a third party threatened the two-party machine and forced that change. I’m all for Democrats taking back the House, then the Senate, then the Presidency. But they still work for corporations. There are progressives out there running, there are progressives in Congress, and they’re not hard to spot. Vote for ‘em. It’s the path to change.

Geez, it really is 1984.

If the Dems don’t stand up to this and make something good and legal happen, in following the law as we know it – then the answer is – they too Brutus – are bought, sold and bribed.

Had enough?

You know, a freakin’ mandate to govern requires the candidate to disclose his policies BEFORE the election. Then he has the moral authority to execute his policies.

What the hell does the DLC plan on doing once they take office, rearrange the furniture?

Dems’s made fun of old man Bush’s “vision thing.” Et tu, Brutus?

Ah, me. Now once again, why was it supposed to be the smart move to wait until—let me see, as we’ve been getting closer to Nov. this year, I’ve been hearing more reasons to wait till ‘08, it seems. Why was that, again?

Re the moniker: A degree of relaxation is supposed to make tension easier to manage…

Time to take back the house…

Buzzflash is running a four alarmer:

US/NSA is sweeping-up information on TENS OF MILLIONS of Americans.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/w…..htm?csp=34

-GSD

Aeon

Great minds, huh?

EPU’d
Way way back in Dec. or Jan. Harry Reid stopped business in the Senate. We cheered. He got attention. NOTHING happened as a result of what he did. The gesture was supposed to jump start Pat Roberts and the investigation of 9/11 Phase 2 IIRC.

The more the dems sit on their hands and not respond to these continued affronts to our democracy the more I’m beginning to believe that they want to maintain the status quo and destroy the country hand in hand with the republicrooks.

I hate thinking and feeling this way. Germany 1933.

Doubleplusungood.

suin said in response:
“RevDeb – I keep wondering what it would take to get the Dems to speak up … each scandal seems like the one to do it and then silence. I doubt the possibility of changing the Dem party but think that our work to do so will hopefully build an infrastructure that will either move the Dems off their butts or will give us a headstart on an alternative …

My fear is that it is too late. We have no time to build an infrastructure if we are living in a fascist state.

I’d love to stick around for the discussion but it is WAY past my bed time. Will check in again in the morning. Maybe it will have all been just a bad nightmare and I will wake up to a different reality. . . I wish.

They are playing a very dangerous game.

One wonders what will happen if the American people start to lose all faith in the legitimacy of the government.

I, for one, lost that faith when 100,000s were killed in Southeast Asia and not one American politician spent even a day in jail for the perpetuation of this crime. You think it’s criminal that no higher up has been charged in the Abu Ghraib torture case. How about the napalming of thousands of children in Vietnam? The carpet bombing of a neutral country (Cambodia)? etc.

Sooner or later these creeps will fall. Few will so richly deserve it.

We have no time to build an infrastructure if we are living in a fascist state.

Actually, we do. Sadly, much of it’s in Iraq right now.

What. Will. It. Take.

This is re last post:
See -this display is not this Pod fellow being naturally sexist. It’s his latest assignment from the GOP political marketing research unit. voters don’t like anyone much, but right now they like Hillary best, for some reason. Time to do a little sexist brand reinforcement job on ol’ H.C. Jess’ bidness.

Popularity
Voters don’t seem like anybody very much these days. Here are the ranked approval favorability scores of various national figures from the NYT poll (.pdf):
Hillary Clinton – 34%
John McCain – 31%
Al Gore – 28%
John Kerry – 26%

http://atrios.blogspot.com/200…..4281170362

This is just depressing the crap out of me. We’re going to need rioting in the streets to stop this rogue government, aren’t we? Like that would ever happen with the consumerism and comfort keeping everyone sedate. Does everyone still feel like the electronic vote stealing is still a fringe theory? This group won’t give up power easily.

I feel so frustrated! How can Americans of any party tolerate these people and even defend them? I just don’t get it. Benjamin Franklin was so right when he said that those who are willing to give up essential liberty for a little security deserve neither. And we aren’t even getting a little security out of the deal. Aaarrghhh…..

“When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man I flipped that bastard off to his face.”

Speaking of retroactively legalizing criminal behavior, I read earlier today that.. “CIA nominee Michael Hayden told a Democratic senator he may be open to changes in eavesdropping law to allow the Bush administration’s warrantless surveillance.” [link]

WTF? The guy who set up and ran an illegal program tells a lawmaker that maybe he’ll consider allowing the lawmaker to legalize it?

darkblack 20 — that is strangely cathartic ;)

Jane, check out the story in the link on # 11.

-GSD

Oh Jane.. are you going to join Tacitus’ and Malkin’s Online Integrity group?
I’m afraid that without anyone of stature or good morals, their site won’t get any visits. Won’t you please help?

Don’t worry about it. Dianne Feinstein says she’s cool with the NSA looking over us all.

And presidential aspirant H. Clinton says Bush is charming.

I think it’s about time you stop projecting your own frustrations on our President, Hamsher.

Sonoma — I think we should refer that to the Online Integrity Group. I’m sure they will handle it.

marky — curiously I never received an invitation. Must’ve been an oversight.

BTW marky did you read that second post by Retardo Montalban? It may be the funniest thing I’ve ever read.

I think public opinion is way out ahead of centrist Democrats. What that means for election I dunno if Dems stay in paralysis. Hope people are not so demoralized and cynical that they simply don’t vote against BushCo.

Approval rating dropping so fast pollkatz (Prof Theil) updating every other day now. Check it out. I say the DOJ cover-up + GSD #11 = 20s by end of next month. I don’t mean an outlier, I mean Preznit stuck in 20s. I bet on it. Dinner, or package of regional food delicacies sent to your home state. Any takers in Philly? I like tastycakes. But no scrapple.

http://www.pollkatz.homestead……age001.gif

And I think the DOJ thing must called what it is: The DOJ cover-up. It is a cover up of criminal or unconstitutional activity and Dems must call it for what it is. I hope FDL and other informed blogs do. No other term can be acceptable. Cover-up. Either there is flat out illegality (like spying on political enemies) or it is so gonzo big and out of control that no one could deny that it is unconstitutional.

Or… Cunningham? Fraud? Bribes Booze and Babes? Gone money. No there there!? That would be the killer, if any fool who took a look could see huge gaping holes of nothing and gone loot and no fricking national security benefit at all. Is that what BushCo is risking stuck in 20s for? I wanna know. There must be something there that would put him in the teens for this. That is my opinion.

Jane 27,
I read that post and savored it. 100% spot on.
I never understood why Tacky got any attention at all. He’s a horrible writer, a poor thinker and a very nasty man. I guess it’s just a case of the cream rising to the top, republican style.

and the other thing is that these sons of bitches are going on memorial break soon, with july 4th shortly afterward.

not to mention the fucking three day work week already in play.

Such stuff nightmares are made on…

How to sleep?

No wonder they can vacation, shop for shoes, fish and hunt while ignoring the people and the Constitution; we are the enemy and the target they are watching and controlling.

Or Bribes Booze Babes and Beefcake. I didn’t mean to be sexist. Sorry.

I’m waiting for the ‘libertarians’ (the ‘big government [unless we run it] is evil’ crowd) to weigh in.

You know — the ones who can’t tell Salma from Friedrich Hayek.

RevDeb – I agree that it is past time but I don’t know what else we do. Rioting in the streets is very appealing but it’s clear that with this crew, they will just shoot us and the Dems would still be quiet.

I’ve done massive nonviolent actions and worked with very serious civil disobedience and I participate in every take-it-to-the-streets event but I don’t see a way to bring about change. Since I work with corporations who are considering and sometimes undertaking major changes, I have some hope there (odd though that is for someone of my political bent) – corps are making progress on global warming for example and just ignoring the “we didn’t sign kyoto” stance. But to oust the fascists? I can’t see the move that works. And given the history of this generation of Dems, I don’t see them as a useful alternative – then again I’m in the midst of reading Fisk’s description of Iraq under the sanctions and that certainly chills me on any nostalgia for the dems in control(nicer for us but hellish for the people of the middle east).

So … do nothing, do something symbolic, build infrastructure? I don’t think any of it will *work* but building something maybe gives us tools to use when next there is an opportunity to create change.

I’ve come to see the Bush admin as rapists and the Dems as guys who stand around and watch … maybe mutter a little but they sure don’t jump in and stop it.

Perhaps we should call it a secretocracy. Mr Arar, the Canadian who was rendered to a coffin in syria for a year, he hasn’t been able to get an investigation or his day in court since it is all just too secret to have a trial over.

This news/post makes me incredibly sad. G’Night all. Tommorrow’s another day to keep plugging away I guess.

Libertarianism is a joke, empty barcalounger rhetoric. Not a single self-professed libertarian is willing to actually live up to their words. It’s nothing more than an excuse to wank with guns.

Depressing and typical is Barack Obama, who is said to have political capital and momentum, even believed by many to be on the principled side of Congressional Democrats.

Watch for his non-response and evasion of these and any further affronts to his institution, the U.S. Congress.

Libertarians are politically autistic.

Boosh looks familiar…hmmmm

http://star.walagata.com/w/lea-p/7081278.jpg

Obama has a lot in common with McCain, IMO.
He’s willing to sell any principle to get elected President at some point in the future. I couldn’t be more disappointed in him.

wesgpc – no fair bringing up tastycakes … damn! now I’ll be jonesing for butterscotch krimpets as well as for democracy!

and puppethead – not disagreeing but before I left NH, there was a lot of fuss about a group of libertarians who were moving to NH with a goal of taking over the state. Didn’t go over real well with the people of live free or die.

cover-up-ogopoly
cover-up-oilopoly
deep doo-doo
shit meets fan
Happy ending would be: GOP goes to Federalist and Whig-land in the sky. I hope the blowback and the revulsion is so bad that they have to change their name before they can come back. If Dems go on offense and force moderate GOPers on spot, I think it could happen. Watch pollkatz and we will see. (I have to connection to that blog but check it every day now. It is becoming compulsive).

The names are endless. Which aspect of it most important to emphasize. We need a name for each manifestation.

Depressing and typical is Barack Obama, who is said to have political capital and momentum, even believed by many to be on the principled side of Congressional Democrats.

dick durbin had a meeting with hayley today and was reassured that hayley understood his concerns and durbin feels sooooo much better now.

As a veteran, it fucking pisses me off to see that AWOL junkie in a uniform. He even has a fucking name tag on his flight jacket.

I don’t care if he’s the “Commander in Chief.” He’s still a civilian! Quit playing dress-up, you fucking moron.

Puppethead 27 — oh yeah.

So the DOJ/Abu Gonzales tried to get records from the NSA/Hayden in order to investigate Bush? Now, that is a clusterfuck.

How much more outrage does it take? Except for the few in Congress we regard, they are all now just phoning it in. And DiFi? You are a complete traitor.

siun #42: so, we’re on? You take my bet? Waddya want? I’m in for a sourdough loaf, or whatever. STuck in twenties by next month. Look at ol’ pollkatz. Dropping so fast you can’t even see the variation between polls. Like early 03 or fall 03, except in opposite direction. What will they do if that happens is what worries me. The Iran stunts are self-satire, only potentially deadly, it is like a bad Duck Dodgers episode of the 21st and 3/50 century.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/ne…..832.column

Scratch your head over a report on the 2004 general election in Miami-Dade from the county’s Election Reform Coalition (www.reformcoalition.org). Among a pile of puzzlements, it concludes that seven polling places had between 50 and 99 more voters than ballots and that four polling places had over 100 more voters than ballots. In addition, six polling places had between 52 and 100 more ballots than voters, and one polling place had 282 more ballots than voters.

ALSO, CHECK OUT: http://WWW.WHATREALLYHAPPENED.COM

I EPU’D THIS EARLIER: ap story

http://www.rawstory.com/showar…..NlYwN0bWE-

ot: Isn’t this convenient — why Buscho can’t investigate itself.

By DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer Wed May 10, 7:49 PM ET

WASHINGTON – The government has abruptly ended an inquiry into the warrantless eavesdropping program because the National Security Agency refused to grant Justice Department lawyers the necessary security clearance to probe the matter.
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The Justice Department’s Office of Professional Responsibility, or OPR, sent a fax to Rep. Maurice Hinchey (news, bio, voting record), D-N.Y., on Wednesday saying they were closing their inquiry because without clearance their lawyers cannot examine Justice lawyers’ role in the program.

“We have been unable to make any meaningful progress in our investigation because OPR has been denied security clearances for access to information about the NSA program,†OPR counsel H. Marshall Jarrett wrote to Hinchey. Hinchey’s office shared the letter with The Associated Press.

Jarrett wrote that beginning in January, his office has made a series of requests for the necessary clearances. Those requests were denied Tuesday.

“Without these clearances, we cannot investigate this matter and therefore have closed our investigation,†wrote Jarrett.

Justice Department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said the terrorist surveillance program “has been subject to extensive oversight both in the executive branch and in Congress from the time of its inception.â€

Roehrkasse noted the OPR’s mission is not to investigate possible wrongdoing in other agencies, but to determine if Justice Department lawyers violated any ethical rules. He declined to comment when asked if the end of the inquiry meant the agency believed its lawyers had handled the wiretapping matter ethically.

Hinchey is one of many House Democrats who have been highly critical of the domestic eavesdropping program first revealed in December. He said lawmakers would push to find out who at the NSA denied the Justice Department lawyers security clearance.

“This administration thinks they can just violate any law they want, and they’ve created a culture of fear to try to get away with that. It’s up to us to stand up to them,†said Hinchey.

…somehow it is difficult to imagine anyone trying to take over NH…and who would want to with those winters?…what I want to know is how long can the legal eagles at the mansion keep the wolves from the door? Is there not a judge anywhere who could order Justice to produce this information? Who’s the top dog here?

Thank you Jane.

This one is near and dear to me. When the Patriot Act, with its changes to, among other things, FISA, was passed, part of the legislation passed by Congress included establisthing someone in the Inspector Generals office dedicated to Patriot Act violations.

When requests started to come out of Congress (Zoe ??? I think was the initiator) they asked for investigation as a Patriot Act violation – since no warrants were obtained. IG Fine said – mercy and my stars, we can’t have that guy investigate the AG and the President – even if they did violate the Patriot Act.

Similarly, there was a request that seemed to die made to the Pentagon’s IG – since NSA is in their budget. After finding that the Inspector General’s office, in general, and dedicated staff for Patriot Act violations in specific “lacked jurisdiction” to investigate lawbreaking issues regarding the PResident and AG, Fine said – oh, but here’s what we can do. We can refer this to the Office of Professional Responsiblity and they can tell everyone if the DOJ lawyers involved (remember – we have never been privy to the memos that concluded half a decade of multiple daily feonies was “necessary and proper”) might have violated their professional responsiblity (ethics) obligations. OK – I admit I openly scoffed.

They’ve made a big fool out of me. I was properly obligated to roll in spasms of guffaws on the floor rather than scoffing (pursuant to which both spasms and floor rolling are discouraged and guffaws are optional). So we get to – did you violate the Code of Professional Conduct – uh, dude, that’s like, ya know, C*L*A*S*S*I*F*I*E*D.

I do have to admit – the Pelosi story is even more likely to boggle and unboggled mind.

Did I mention that Classication would be a nice area for some Hayden questions – esp w/re: to classifying illegal activity and how that works?

Thanks again

wesgpc …the problem is that I’m in Chicago and there are no tastycakes! I also suspect they will now classify all polls!

but hey, I’m up for sourdough and I hear you can ship a frozen Chicago pizza from Giordano’s so I’ll play just for the heck of it. (why do I think I’m going to lose on this?)

Sing! Muse and tell of the man of many crimes, a man debt ridden, obtuse, the void is less empty, lies, and crises, a man happy to be bandied about by an idiot wind of his own making. A perpetual wasteland his garden path, nothing but an infamy of whores in the peoples house. Sing and show us, Muse! Show how from corrupt heights the hollow do fall. Sing! And send Winged Hermes when the deed is done.

Slightly OT — but that’s okay; I’ve been at war with the Bush dictatorship since December 2000, and I am burned out.

But I have not, and will not, quit — until these gangsters are permanently evicted.

Anyway — Steve Soto at TheLeftCoaster.com –

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/007622.php

Behind The Recent Polls: Where Did All The Cultists Go?

Bad poll numbers in the abstract paint a partial picture of how bad things are for W and the vulnerable GOP incumbents this fall. Reading a story by a leading political writer that puts those numbers in a larger context and narrative indicate what may become the conventional wisdom among the Beltway stenographers this fall. We get such a narrative from the New York Times’ Adam Nagourney and Megan Thee this morning as he dissects the latest CBS News/New York Times poll out late yesterday, which had Bush at 31%. Bush’s approval ratings on his handling of foreign policy, the economy, and Iraq have fallen to new lows, all now below 30%. And continuing a trend in recent polls, according to the weighted sample in this poll, only 25% of the sample admitted to being a Republican, the lowest numbers in over seven years.

And that is another interesting dynamic from all these recent polls. You can read the falling poll numbers for Bush on a variety of issues, and we can debate the silly trolls who say that it doesn’t matter that Bush is toast because he isn’t on the ballot this fall even though this latest poll indicates that Bush is taking the GOP down with him. What strikes me from reading the recent polls is this: where are the Republicans?

siun: Oh… oh… oh… I want waffles from that place by the exchanges. Please please please please. Twenties by next month. Stuck. In Mud. I’ll win. I’ll send you a sourdough anyway. I want one o them waffles. what is the name of hat place, just south of the commodity exchanges?

Sad. While the Worst Of Joel Klein quote is certainly one of the stupidest things in print, it’s just a damn article.

The continued failure of Democrats to confront an administration that is unambiguous in its contempt for the rule of law and the Constitution – that’s appalling. We expect that from dittoheads. We accept that Bushits have it as a matter of policy. But why self-proclaimed members of the opposition would stick the tongues so far up that hole, I can’t imagine.

Maybe it’s time to consider something along the lines of a general strike? What’s the likelyhood of something like this gaining momentum?

The lack of action by Democrats, with the exception of a few like Feingold and Gore, is really depressing. How about a co-ordinated blog campaign to publicize the 10-point plan? How about getting Cindy Sheehan to run against Feinstein with Feinstein’s NSA/Bush support as a key issue?

Joe Klein – accomplice to tyranny.

-58-
When? What’s a reasonable time frame?

props to darkblack for the wicked photoshopping. one thing about it is disturbing, however: I vaguely recall that the kid’s picture is from an aryan white supremacist rally.

siun (#53) – hi!

are you actually wagering that Bush won’t fall into the twenties? where’s the fun in that?

Ho hum. Karl Rove has access to all of our phone records. I’m trying to be upset, but I can’t even pretend that I’m surprised.

The NSA vs DOJ story is also totally unsurprising. How it’s NOT obstruction of justice is totally beyond me, but then I didn’t think you could toss someone in jail for years on end without even charging them.

I agree with whoever it was that said that by the time this administration is through, we’re going to need a Truth and Reconciliation Commission to scrub the stain off of our country. And frankly, I’m not even sure that’ll be enough.

What GOP drinking songs are in vogue now?

Chickens are a roosten in,
Let’s sing Goddamm,
Shoeth drop and bribeth slop
And how the polls doth slam!
Sing: Goddamm.
Voters cuss and blameth us,
And we are in a jam!.
Diehard fibs’er turning livers
Damn you, sing: Goddamm.
Goddamm, Goddamm, tis why I am,
Goddamm.
So ‘gainst the springtime calm
Sing Goddamm, damm, sing Goddamm
Sing Goddamm, sing Goddamm,
DAMM.

written by a crazed lost old disoriented fascist coot, long time whence ago

Last night I went to a campain event. It was the chance for those who wanted to be elected to the board of govenors at my daughter’s charter school, a Waldorf-themed school in Los Angeles Unified School District.

There were five people running for two positions. Every one of the candidates said something to the effect that every one else running would make a great member of the board, but then stated why they wanted to be on it and what they had to offer.

I am sick and tired of personality politics that are based on the adversarial winner-take-all, I am the greatest thing since sliced bread narcisist circus that plays out at every state and federal election.

Yes, I am aware that the offices of president, senator, house member require a great deal of skill and experience, but these school board candidates remembered one thing that many “bigger” politicians forget — their responsibility to the office. These school board candidates really want to make the school better, and while they might be depressed if they lose, they plan on working with the winners for the benefit of the school and the students.

Bush, Cheney, etc., and most Republicans and many Democrats appear to care more about their status, campain war chests, and power. They have forgotten who they serve and why — and the country is worse off for it.

Representatives are supposed to represent their districts and senators are supposed to represent their states.

Over time, a culture has evolved (aided by effecitve manouvering by the press and the parties) that glorifies the individual senator and congress person. When there is a vote in congress, no longer is it said “Californian’s vote no!” “Montanans vote yes!” It is always “56 to 38 in favor”, or “333 to 104 against.” The reporting does not suggest representation of the will of the people. If we would say “Kentucky’s 3rd district supports giving 2% of the people in thier district a ‘meaningful’ tax cut in order to help 833,000 millionaires in New York,” people in Kentuky’s 3rd would say “WTF? Are you representing us or them.” But when we say “John Doolittle voted ney, then we have broken the chain of representational government, and what we are left to say instead is “Well that is John Doolittle’s opinion, not mine.” Well, if John Doolittle is your representative, it is EFFECTIVELY your opinion on the matter because he voted arguably in the best way possible to represent your and your neighbor’s collective position. So the people in California’s 4th District should be collectively labled with the votes made by Doolittle for or against a given issue bill.

It seems to me that if the voters of a specific district are declared to have made the vote, and that the senator or representative merely cast the vote in the best interests of the citizens they represent.

I am reaching at straws here, but it seems that if elected leaders paid attention to their constituent’s interests on each piece of legislation, and if we as a society would say that regardless of what the vote was about, it was cast in the best interests of the people who lived in a given state or district, those people might start believing it. Then they might take an interest in whethter the people elected were really representing thier interests. Then they might start asking, “Was that vote really in my best interest?”

For my daughter’s school board, I know most of the parents care, but only 20% will really monitor the candidates eventually elected and hold them accountable. But all of the parents know that these candidates are working for interests of thier constituents, and will be held accountable on that basis.

I am greatful because last night at the meeting, I saw the seeds of American Democracy, and it was a beutiful thing.

I’m not in that first-to-Fitz race, but if I were,
here’s mine:

Quick, Henry, the Fitz!

(Even I am not old enough for that piece of
Dr. Seuss-iana, a 17 year running joke-ad of his;
see http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/speccoll/dsads/index.shtml )

It’s back to the ol ‘Incompetence or Arrogance ? ‘ condundrum -

if they had stonewalled DOJ just another week and a half – this would not have made the Hayden hearings (yeah, I can hear that great patriot Saxby Chambiss now)

so does their timing reflect the institutionalized incompetence or were they well aware and knew they didn’t have to give a shit any more ?

and I didn’t even know about the Pelosi deal – probably a result of my recent self imposed ‘breathers’ – not even sure I wanna open the link just yet

I have that ugly sinking feeling — the desperation of the criminal Bush Dictatorship, crashing into the unwilling democratic and republican sentiments of the American people.

We have reached a breaking point — and it will only get worse from here . . .

Must really p’o General Clark to see W. sashaying around dressed in U.S.Army unform.

So what’s it going to be for the October surprise? The Golden Gate Bridge, the BART tube in San Francisco, the Empire State Building, the Statue of Liberty, or an attack on the NY subway system. Dems don’t care. They’re part of it. Oh, I know, the Senate chambers get bombed. Anyone remember the Reichstag fire? Hope I’m wrong.

It is sad. I really wonder if it is over for this nation.

-GSD

ck @ 55-

Where are they? Maybe they are starting to think — maybe, just maybe — this whole thing is getting ugly, as Jane suggested in the post title.

I think we may see increasing numbers of R-critters starting to express serious concerns in the next few weeks. If that happens GWB might lash out. And then we may get a very fast impeachment of both Cheney and Bush.

Or, we may just end up 6 months from now wishing for the good old days when there was a law we believed GWB couldn’t violate and that total surveillance was only electronic.

Another bet. I am very very cheap, so remember if I talk big, well, OK, I say, why would BushCo risk this? I think there has got to be an ultimate lose-lose here by any DOJ investigation. Cause I do believe deep in my liberal Xtian heart that Bush is risking hard core twenties time here. Must be risking twenties to avoid teens. What would that be? No human rights, no national security. Cunningham, Wilkes, Jerry Lewis, Wade, missing money. Fraud. Give up your rights to make these rich crooks richer. Remember the stories about the FBI being run ragged by hundreds, thousands of false leads. Boondoogle. BS vapor ware. missing money. Bribes Booze Babes and Beefcake. Who’s on? I talk big but I am penny-ante at heart. I am such a cheap gambler, but hey, I’ll spring for a candy bar, Ghirardelli mint square, See’s marshmint, who know what! It’s on the table. Whoo-ha, I am going all out.

Sometimes the news is so strange the last few months. I get kind of giddy. Probably from head shaking in disbelief. Will calm down now.

A third bet: every single one of CA GOP House delegation a crook. A sad bet since I believe in regional loyalty, and every one of them would be sad for my great state of California, but I think it’s true. But… when it all falls out, everyone a crook and several more involved in some kind of even more unbelievable money stealing involved in this.

GSD #11

Don’t scare the shit out of me like that! It is irresponsible.

BTW, do you think the CEOs of the phone companies have been briefed or given security clearances to even know that the NSA is on their premises conducting “top-secret” operations? If not, would that be a violation of the 4th and 5th Amendments? Not to mention the 1st and the 9th?

GODDAMMIT!!! WHO THE FUCK DOES BUSH THINK HE IS? JESUS WITH A GUN?

wesgpc – uh oh … waffles near the cbot? I work right near there so I will go on a waffle search (sheesh, great waffles … near by … and none of my new colleagues told me!?)

stuck in the 20s … you’re on

and Punaise dear! I’ve been so busy Ykos-ing that I hardly get to FDL but the organizing team is awesome and the work is such fun … I haven’t gotten to use my PR stuff in a while and I’m loving it!

will I lose this bet … well, prolly but I never understand betting pools and such so this seems like a good learning experience! and wesgpc promised to send sourdough!)

cbl #68: see TPM quote DOJ officials saying Cunningham won’t talk, even in jail. DOJ official says that will delay but not stop investigation -it will break soon and it will be big. That’s what he said. Check out TPM. They could not wait and preferred to hand it over to the Hayden guy, a real pro who can stonewall, say nothing and not answer with skill dash and elan. That will look way bad at hearings, and media will have to cover, making it worse. So what they are covering must be V. bad political news. All I can think of is reduced civil rights + no addtional national security value = lots stolen money and mind boggling incompetence a ten your old could see in a minute (=lose+lose+lose).

Personally, I have had THE FUCK enough.

Seriously, between the refusal to tell the Minority Leader which Critters have been briefed and when, and now shutting down the DoJ looksee into whether DoJ lawyers violated their own professional ethics because the lookee-lawyers aren’t cleared to look…. !

We are through the looking-glass, completely.

V, anyone? Game on.

ccmask

I was damn close! 1 freakin’ minute behind!

What I don’t understand is how anyone can believe this is going to correct itself by electing some Democrats.

The only thing that will eventually force a change upon America is when the regime, the society itself, collapses.

May I poll the straight people on here? The general consensus among the gay community on Mary Cheney is, the be charitable, somewhat negative. What do straight people think of her?

you can’t rock a boat that has sunk to the bottom of the harbor.

centrist Dems, non-rockers of a ship of state that has sprung a gazillion leaks, re the latest scandal(s):
“OK, then, this is the next to the last to the penultimate straw! Enough is starting almost to be enough. We’re just not going to put with this for more than a year or two – three, tops! Mark my words, we will not back down…much…well OK, a bit more, but we’re really starting to think about expressing a mild disapproval.”

74 wesgpc says:

why would BushCo risk this? I think there has got to be an ultimate lose-lose here by any DOJ investigation. [I do believe] that Bush is risking hard core twenties time here.

The cost of a DOJ investigation is worse than bad PR. They are criminals and they know it, so covering up the crime is the only option available . . .

can we use the ‘C’ word now?

cesspool.
this administration is an absolute cesspool.

Bush thinks he is Hitler with a crucifix.

Frank – Mary Cheney is a bitch and a disgrace to the gay community. Remember how gracefully Ron Reagan separated himself from his father’s crap … while Mary rolls in it.

Bailiff, whack his pee-pee.

-GSD

Mary Cheney is as foul and greedy and mean as both of her rotten parents.

-GSD

This nation is an authoritarian state. Repeat that over and over again.

The nerve of Deadeye Dick Cheney to lecture Putin.

If Hubris Sonic is around – that was genius.

well, time for some sleep … wesgpc – I’ll start the waffle hunt in the am! and if I find a tastycake source, I’ll buy double!

g’nite all! I’m going to dream of tandytakes!

GSD 86 – heh. what’s that from again? Laugh-in?

siun – good on ya for your YKos work….we miss you (temporarily)

frank probst at 81–
one straight person’s opinion on mary cheney:
deceptive, hypocritical.

wesgpc @ 77,

saw the TPM article this morning, I, too was stunned by the prosecutor’s candor, but my next thought is let’s see the visitor and phone logs (not that he didn’t sell his silence before he went in.) It should be big, remember reading about it at Kos – Sherlock Google was dancing around suspicions that several of the Wilkes/Wade shell companies were mere money laundering ops for GOP coffers – I know, that is waaay to much to hope for, but considering the players involved, I am sure there are plenty of big fat crumbs for the prosectuors to follow – even without the Dukester

Mary Cheney is GOoPer political operative — she is no more gay than her dad is a Democrat . . .

No, we’re just at “Dic” right now.

Pun,

I believe Cheech and Chong.

-GSD

Any new news on that tiny little “when the hell is Rove gonna be indicted” story? Nothing really new since the VandeHei story…I guess since there were no reports of the grand jury meeting today or of Fitzgerald appearances, there won’t be indictments Friday. Fitzmas on the 19th, I guess.

siun says:
May 10th, 2006 at 10:42 pm
Frank – Mary Cheney is a bitch and a disgrace to the gay community. Remember how gracefully Ron Reagan separated himself from his father’s crap … while Mary rolls in it.
———————————————————-
In the gay world, that’s the feeling at one end of the spectrum. Unfortunately for Mary, those are her defenders. On the other side of the debate are those that feel that, considering the recent publication of the Gospel of Judas, Ms Cheney deserves to replace Judas Iscariot in Dante’s ninth circle of hell.

As a gay man, I have to say that it’s hard for me to be objective on this issue. I’m wondering if straight people see her the same way, or if they see her as some Shakespearean heroine torn between her family and her identity, or rather as a vapid lesbian Paris Hilton, or if they just don’t care about her at all. Straight people, your thoughts?

Cheech and Chong’s “Big Bamboo” album, which came with a huge rolling paper.

As always, a wild-ass guess…

Listen for Chirac. He might be the canary. Though smooth as silk, the message will be: “George, set the gun down and step away.”

jane: i didn’t want this to be left in the Zone so i’m posting in this thread now.

i have been a FDL reader and poster since last october. i don’t look for a person’s gender when i read. i look for ideas and good writing. you and christy and pach (male or female, never thought about it) and many, many others are expressive and thought provoking. i come to FDL with an expectation that it will be authoritative and original. it is, almost without fail. i hold no other blog in higher esteem.
you and redd should’ve been on the guy’s list. so what? how many great writers have been stiffed until they weren’t any more?

when i first started reading digby i assumed it was a guy. the name, the graphic, it was an assumption. when somebody hinted that digby was female it fucked with my mind. not seriously, but i started reading it differently. finally it came to me. when i read i hear “voice”. i hear a guy or a woman. i’m not sure what this means and i really don’t care.
my favorite book in all the world is “the museum of unconditional surrender” by dubravka ugresic. a good writer is a good writer, and a good book etc. and shall be evermore. mahalo.
p.s. i hate you. i’ve become an FDL junkie and it’s taking over my life! help!

darkblack 20-

I used that for this post. Hope you approve.

http://incomprehensibledemoral…..pying.html

Frank Probst 81

Mary Cheney is worthy of the French epithet “collabo”, short for collaborateur (i.e. WWII, Vichy, etc.) collaboratrice in her case. The overt ones were hounded, shamed and villified at the end of the war. Others just crept back into the fabric of society.

forgot to add one more thing before I join all the other firepups in dreamland -
QWEST ! Yeay QWEST! that should be the story – Corporation turns down upfront, contractual, and future contractual revenue because it wasn’t right or ethical – my god kids, we all have days where we don’t know what is more damaging – GWB or Corp. America – so if this story plays out as now reported, they are getting a big fat love letter and a LTE in HQ hometown.

‘night doggies

Nevin,

If I recall there was a period of radio silence before the Libby indictment…this may be the calm before the storm.

Also another observation.

Prior to the Libby indictment were the rumors of “22 files” perhaps, 22 different people under investigation or ready for indictment.

We just witnessed the release of the Abramoff visits..although we know the 2 visit rap is bullshit….there was also a story about 200 visits.

Seems that the scumbagocracy that is running the media manipulation game for Bush floats out very high and damning numbers so that when the real stats come out they are allowed to minimize charges. “See only 2 visits, not 200 hundred visits”.

All games all the time.

They are sick and deviant and they are running the ship of state into the shoals and they could give a shit less.

It is sickening how pathological this nation has become.

-GSD

GSD, Suzanne – thanks for filling in that blank spot in my cultural literacy!

Frank Probst: my straight perspective is that what these people are like, the roles they play as on a personal level are kind of irrelevant to me compared to their public morality in their official roles. Maybe because I am straight white guy (always been in the majority from certain perspective) I may be insensitive to issues of how a person represents or reflects some group they may be deemed to be from. I don’t care if Mary Cheney is really gay or not, she does not represent gay people or lesbians, or women or blondes or whites or brats of rich folk nor nothing in particular. I am nominalist in that way. I don’t think of her or her parents or Bush nor non of them in a personal way. I have met enough and worked with enough very powerful and privileged people to sense that… there tends to some pathology there, IMHO. But that is all I think about it.

I fixed the song, and will go to sleep and hopefully not wake up with my head still boggling. Mind numbing sh*t coming down.

Gooper Drinking Song for the Mid 0-zone of New Millenium.

Chickens are a roosten in,
Let’s sing Goddamm,
Shoeth drop and bribeth slop
And how the polls doth slam!
Sing: Goddamm.
Voters cuss and blameth us,
And we are in a jam!.
Diehard fibs’er turning livers
Damn you, sing: Goddamm.
Goddamm, Goddamm, tis why I am,
Goddamm.
So ‘gainst the jailcell’s calm
Sing Goddamm, damm, sing Goddamm
Sing Goddamm, sing Goddamm,
DAMM.

Frank Probst 99 –

Mary Cheney is a death camp Capo, who would gleefully herd her own kind into the gas chambers . . .

Judas was a Saint, compared to Mary Cheney –

Wren Dishon @ 40:

“If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy.â€

;>)

warped guy’s take on Mary Cheney:
if you’re the spawn of Darth, you deserve to be cut a little slack. except for that, the only thought i have about her is she’ll never hold a candle to Margaret Cho.

Hey, I had an idea for an improvement in the Online Integrity pledge. They ought to add a virginity clause. After all, the whole point is to promise not to violate some rule that you’ve already broken 100 times.
Well, I guess that rules Ben S. out.. but he has no integrity anyway.

I don’t know anything about Stalin’s daughter except that she lived in the US for many years, IIRC. If you want to make a fair comparison of Mary, there is a place to start—or with Saddam’s daughters.

this, via attaturk at rising hegemon, is pretty funny: Voyage to the Bottom of the Polls

The Dems are rolling over on the warantless wiretapping and secret collection of all domestic electronic communications.

DiFi is in favor of Hayden; Jane Harman believes we should update FISA to make the warantless wiretaps legal; Hayden informs Durbin we should update the laws.

So its no longer changing the practice and prevent further erosion of constitutional liberties but changing the law to make the illegal now legal. The Dems are complicit in the trashing of the constitution.

ck #109, Probst, etc. see… if your gonna go there, you just don’t know what is up, do you? Lookit me here, conventional straight white guy wadda I know from what? Bush is a straght white Christian guy (supposedly) is he a traitor to me and my kind? I keep hearing hints that there is a whole lot of closeted reactionary gays in this administration… little hints on the blogs and in the news even, but no one says what’s up, is it a joke, or what? I’ll be the last to know. Well, what if there is. They are their own very elite and rare in-group loyal to themselves. Traitors to no one. A mirror image of their straight compats. May we may live long enough to know, if there is any worth in knowing. Ok, I’ll sleep now.

Frank Probst #81: another straight person’s opinion:

It has pretty much nothing to do with Mary Cheney being gay and everything to do with her being Dick and Lynne’s daughter.

The comment Lynne made “spontaneously” during the ‘04 campaign about Kerry being “a bad man” was a political “winner” for them. So, they’re doing it again. Being a Cheney she’s mean as a snake, calculating, vindictive, and arrogant. It’s in the Cheney genes.

marky @ 112
… promise not to violate some rule that you’ve already broken 100 times.

aren’t you being a bit generous about the seductive powers of, say, Jonah Goldberg and his pasty-ass ilk?

Punaise,
You are so right.. it’s just that I always picture him as a sort of Rosemary’s baby coming out of Lucianne’s twat, so he’s an honorary “man” that way. Wait.. are we being nice these days? I may have forgotten my manners… gotta head over to OI pronto!

Well, I guess that rules Ben S. out.. but he has no integrity anyway.

If he does, he copied it from someone else.

new Pool Boy piece via rawstory:
“Bush, GOP Congress Losing Core Supporters”

116 wesgpc says:

Bush is a straght white Christian guy (supposedly) is he a traitor to me and my kind?

Yes, he is — because Bush’s kind have nothing to do with you, no matter what superficial traits you may share.

The good news is — two thirds of Americans have figured out that Bush is not on their side . . .

The bad news — Bush is still in power, and getting crazier by the day . . .

marky 119
too much imagery! accck!

Punaise @ 62:

one thing about it is disturbing, however: I vaguely recall that the kid’s picture is from an aryan white supremacist rally.

Ixnay on the Yanaryay booger eaters, P. ….Kid’s a Feyenoord Rotterdam fan, I hid the logo and the home color face paint.

Thesaurus Rex @ 103:

I used that for this post. Hope you approve.

“What post? All I see is some patriot bestowing a benediction on Dear Leader.”

;>)

…By all means, and thanks for the compliment

Good to know that the NSA is busy reading my emails to, among others, my aging Boomer cousins, who include: a retired cop, a retired radiologist, a retired banker. All of them former US military: 2 Marines, 1 Army. Two of them voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004.

Some of those emails happen to mention the son of yet another cousin, said to have been wounded in Iraq. So… ummmm… the word “Iraq” is in the emails, which presumably turns up as a red flag and gets nabbed by the NSA. For this, we’re somehow ’suspicious’?!

Dems? Congress? Anyone at home there…?

darkblack – my bad!

Question: come this weekend, will I am forced to conclude, based on a tepid response from Democrats to mounting evidence of massive intrusions into our privacy, that they are in favor of the stealth government this administration has put in place?
If more of them do not join Feingold, Harkin, and Boxer on S.Res.398, which has been hanging out there since March 13th, Americans WILL assume this stuff is OK, because nobody made a big stink about it. And it is NOT O.K.!

I say never mind about the Dem ‘leadership,’ if it approaches the elections timidly. We got the challengers, in particular the ‘fighting Dems.’ Aren’t they up to 60 and more by now?

Can’t tell me that, once the serious politicking season arrives, that a) these guys won’t come out breathing all the fire you could ask for, and that b) they’ll be ignored. Unlike Kerry’s crowds, the media will be there to pick up on the narrative this time around.

That, sadly, will be for no better reason than that the media likes kicking people when they’re down. But hey, we’ll take it.

This strategy of not rocking the boat is not working for you?

It’s working for me. It’s working to remind me that the Dems mostly abandoned us years ago.

New Blood, please.

Punaise @ 126:

Not at all, P. …Such a thing would be a genuine concern for me.

db: must have been the vehemence – and the blond hair – that threw me; I’d seen the picture somewhere before

Mary Cheney is a self-hater. Projecting her disdain and contempt for herself on the gay community. She has absolutely no credibility in the gay community. Kerry’s office had it right today. She has been an enabler for an administration that has the worst record on gay rights. Remember, when Coors was being boycotted by gay bars nationwide, because of their support of “Reverend Kill the fags”. She was sent out as a liaison, to make nice-nice with the gay community. She sold out years ago. She IS, IS, IS her father in a butch haircut.

Surely this will make even Republicans call to impeach this SOB?

USA Today says NSA is monitoring every call in the US.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/w…..-nsa_x.htm

NSA has massive database of Americans’ phone calls

Updated 5/11/2006 12:30 AM ET
By Leslie Cauley, USA TODAY

The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth, people with direct knowledge of the arrangement told USA TODAY.

The NSA program reaches into homes and businesses across the nation by amassing information about the calls of ordinary Americans — most of whom aren’t suspected of any crime.

Durbin was pathetic today on Tweety.

Frank Probst @ 10:51 pm (#99) – I’m not sure how representative of straight people I am, but I don’t find much to respect about her. I hate trying to read minds, but I just don’t find her protestations about Kerry and Edwards sincere. Edwards was trying to make the point that Republicans who say that gays shouldn’t have this or that right might feel differently if they had children who were gay, as Dick Cheney clearly differs from Bush. That seems a valid point, and doesn’t strike me as overtly politicizing a fact that just about everyone who was paying attention knows about anyway.

Calling people bastards, SOBs or whatever for making a point like that strikes me as an insane overreaction, particularly when they’re part of the group those people are trying to help.

About Mary Cheney:

I don’t know how she can stand herself. I guess it IS because she’s a Cheney. By the way, contrary to what Howard Dean may think, I’m also a wife and mother, born in Oklahoma, raised in Kansas, and living in Arizona, and I’m perfectly OK with both gay marriage and adoption by gay parents.

punaise @ 104

Yes and collaborators/collaboratrices had their heads shaved after the war, those that weren’t hanged.

The prominent ones, like Coco Chanel, exiled themselves for a good long time until passions settled.

Seen from abroad, where I am, I’m afraid to say the country’s already gone over the tipping point.

The repugs are fascists and the dems are neutered, cowering go-alongs. It is like watching a dysfunctional family with an alcoholic father self-destruct, but with terrifying global implications.

To keep up the metaphor, the public is the alienated child, a sullen adolescent who tunes out on his ipod and smokes pot in his room.

Yes it will end badly. The bank account is empty and the credit cards are nearly maxed out, the family is shunned by its neighbors and no one dares intervene ’cause daddy’s a raging bully with a big gun and everyone’s just too embarrassed when mom goes shopping with a bruised face, because she’s too shit-scared to leave him, he might just kill her.

In too deep.

from a lurker – excellent but bleak riff

darkblack and punaise – I think the photo of that blond kid has really made the rounds in recent years. It’s used, front and center, in the ads for a local Irish pub here in Seattle called “Fado”.

“…whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain America is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.”

Know your history, it always comes back.

fahrender 102 — Such things usually involve cameras, which I personally hate, so not me I’m afraid. Christy, however, is quite good.

The USA today story is spin. It doesn’t jibe at all with the equipment and methods described in the EFF filing. This is a limited hang out.

This has to be an impeachable offense What are the democrats going to do November might be to late?

will the democrats do anything

i just got in and have to catch up now. but, according to USA Today’s big scoop (mentioned at top- via buzzflash), the ONLY telecommunication company which REFUSED to give them blanket access to all call records is QUEST Communications of Colorado.

maybe we should thank them for “sticking to their guns”, as it were.

Corporate Headquarters
1801 California St., Denver, CO 80202
general inquiries: (303) 992-1400 or (800) 899-7780
Fax: (303) 896-8515

Investor Relations, (800) 567-7296
email: investor.relations@qwest.com

Qwest Media Relations
Media inquiries: (800) 256-1410
email: qnews@qwest.com

Why you should read americablog:

“If the RNC had a liquor license, it would be the biggest gay bar in D.C.”

http://americablog.blogspot.co…..marie.html

http://americablog.blogspot.co…..-mary.html

This rats nest can be cleaned out with investigations. It’s not the Dems screaming for them either – it is the guilty behaviour of the Repugnant’s itself that demands them.
The main investigations need to be about Phase 2.Torturegate, RenderAir, the Gitmo archipeligo, STASI style mass domestic spying and cooruption by money, hookers and etc
So while all thats going on we can all be working on how to get rid of the Vichy crowd. It’s a long war folks but fortune favours the brave. If Amerikkka does have to split up then thats a no-brainer…just keep drawing the Mason-Dixon line over and give the North half to Canada,( w/Alaska) and the south half to Atzlan, inc Hawaii.

…and the behemoth ‘01 GWT is up on cinder blocks in the front yard – can’t afford to gas it up. The house looks OK from the street, but debt-mites are gnawing away at the floor joists. Dad was supposed to go pay the school fees for the young ‘uns, but blew the money instead at Tack’s Break Room, the corner bar where he’s already run up a huge tab. He picked a fight with some foreign-looking folks in the dangerous part of town, came back with an ill-considered swagger seeing as how he got his lunch handed to him. Still, that doesn’t keep him from itchin’ for another round with their neighbors.

Can’t even talk about the Peeping Tom habits.

The kids wonder why Mom never goes out and wears sunglasses in the house. She mends the gingham curtains and says to herself that things are gonna get better if she just does doesn’t make a fuss this time. Tears stream down her bruised check.

OT – Billmon takes a swipe at Richard Cohen:

When Liberals Attack
http://billmon.org/archives/002438.html

mOropeza @ 12:23 am (#143) – I think there are at least two impeachable offenses so far. One is the illegal NSA surveillance program that Bush acknowledges doesn’t follow the law and refuses to stop. The second is his classification of the “rendition” program and the “black sites”, illegal acts for which there is documentation available to show that the Bush Administration was aware of the illegallity. The selective declassification of the NIE may be a third, but would probably require investigation. Mary and looseheadprop had a great discussion of the latter issue a week or so ago, you may want to try finding it in the threads.

There may be more, but that’s at least two rather obvious ones, and still only a handful of Democrats will even talk about censure or impeachment.

I should add our favorite acronym, IANAL.

you got it, psychology of a nation.

But I sit here and try to think of the way out.

Mom’s got to steel her nerves, pack up the kids late at night after he’s drunk himself to sleep, slip the keys to the Chevy Nissan from his pocket as he snores in his LazyBoy and get the hell out of town.

Then call the cops and put the bastard away

The utter disrespect that the current administration has demonstrated for the American people is beyond arrogance, it is beyond hubris; it is a criminal element telling the people what they arbitrarily will and will not allow to be investigated.

Are Americans supposed to believe that the laws of the land can be undermined with specious arguments by those who are suspected of committing a crime? It is their admitted criminal behavior that is being investigated, not legal behavior. When were suspects of a crime given the right to lay down the rules regarding their crimes?

If all that was being investigated was legal behavior the administration might have a point, For the current adminstration to base its argument on the concept that the people are so simple minded that they should just trust them is an insult that would be ludicrous was it not such a serious crime. It reveals the deepest lack of respect for the people that, presumably, we should all accept as the new reality under republican rule. It is disgusting and it is an outrage.

The administration laughs in the face of over two hundred years of constitutional law, as if there are two sets of laws, one set of laws for the peons and another set of laws for the self-proclaimed aristocrats. It must be naive to suspect that there were ever leaders of our country who entertained the idea that American citizens have inherent dignity.

Mary @ 9:57 pm (#52) – Your question for Hayden is an excellent one. I’m reasonably sure that no one will ask it.

brkily @ 12:26 am (#145) – Thanks for finding that information. I fired off a quick e-mail to the media relations office. I’m just a customer, but I thought they might like a thank you, anyway. They’re sure to get some less polite e-mails in the coming days.

miles, 142, what do you mean by “limited hang out?”

Jane, you’re probably not around anymore, but I like the “Gore” plan. It’s at least a good road map for establishing what’s been done and how to start correcting it, with a nice penalty clause if certain parties decide to take the football back to their mommy’s house.

Goodnight everyone, and hello to the early risers from the East coast.

OT, but I humbly suggest that everyone take a minute, go over to the SmirkingChimp.com, and read the article by right-wing radio host Thomas Eddlem.

http://smirkingchimp.com/artic…..mp;order=0

IMHO, the old Kautilya maxim “my enemy’s enemy is my friend” is one we should not forget as we try to rid ourselves of these cretinous bastards in the White House and Congress.

Chew on this when you are thinking about why Democrats are not “standing up” in the old sense

Given the current news cycles & associated technology why would a group attack their opposites this long before the big battle (election day) ?

Why would they want to give away their plan (assuming they actually have one) ahead of time ?

[Dry powder anyone ?]

Consider the mind state of the electorate come October & think what both sides might be thinking come the time of “Surprise !”

No one is paying attention except junkies of politics now; citizens only notice things AFTER Labor Day – after a summer of high gasoline prices etc

It is going to be a Very interesting Halloween this year (maybe V masks will be popular…)

Think devious !

“Politics is just high school with guns and more money” – Frank Zappa

Re: Dean talks to 700 club. Geebus. Is it time to write a letter to Dean too? You know I am not a great fan of Oprah Winfrey, & this may sound crazy, but I see her as someone who appeals to millions of Americans, probably many evangelicals as well, by telling emotional anecdotes about people. It seems that the Democrats like Dean may have something to learn from her. (I am quite serious.) She makes old and new book titles, like Elie Wiesel and Toni Morrison, popular and has a Midas touch. Sentiment is the key here. Stories about real people. I am sure that sounds cheesy, but I have “faith†that Democrats can popularize issues in such a way without sounding demagoguish..
Mary Cheney. Arghh. Dick Cheney “loves (his) gay daughter†only because he his willing to give one of his “own†more latitude than the rest of the world.
& Insomnia stinks.

OT, but there is nothing local about Fadó. It is a corporate chain of “Irish pubs.” We have one in Austin, there are several others around the US. Their Guinness is pretty good.

USA TODAY report on domestic phone taps is this week’s 3-pointer (like Dubai port deal, Harriet Miers, etc). This will echo in the MSM and talk radio/TV this week and will drive down Bush’s numbers by 2 or 3 points. I thought Rove’s indictment will be the next 3-pointer, but we have to wait 1 or 2 morwe weeks for that. Bush will be below 30 after this wk. After Rove’s indictment, Bush will be at 25.

Woke at 3 a.m. and have spent all this time catching up with the last two posts and comments. I only have one thing to say in this the hour before dawn: someone needs to tell PODHORETZ that he looks like a dildo with ears.

LindyH:

Just looks?

This is all part of the President’s plan to transform the presidency into a Unitary Executive, which would also be a great plan for Iraq.

O.K. What is a V mask, asks the insomniac?

DeCascadian, let’s say the Dems to have a plan coming November. Is it fair for them to leave most of the progressives out, looking us at as nuisances and rabble and using this Daddy-knows-Best attitude? I throw that out.

CNN’s American Morning is mum on it. They rather talk about “IDOL SHOCKER” and claim some dude on American Idol got “robbed.”

Excuse me but we’re the ones getting robbed here. Bush is shredding the Constitution. During press conferences, he should be wearing a mask because this is highway-fucking-robbery.

For the record, I’m Jane and Christy’s token xy chromosomal slave.

Marky 29–Utah Phillips talks about American people in the Melting pot metaphor–you know where what’s on the bottom get burned and the scum rises to the top………

Pacha -

LOL

mui 163 – I think it’s a reference to V, the mysterious fascism-fighting hero of my favorite movie V for Vendetta. V’s face is always hidden behind a so-called Guy Fawkes mask as he kills bad guys and blows shit up.

My wife pointed out that it is interesting that “Jeff Gannon”, White House man-whore, got 2 years of security clearances to the West Wing with a fake name from a fake ‘news agency’ Talon News,while running a male escort ’service’ (for KKKarl?) but the DOJ lawyers can’t get one to investigate illegal wiretapping.

Awoke to the dictatorship headline…I’ve been calling it that for over five years and referencing the spring 2001 videoclip when Bush said he didn’t have a problem with dictatorship as long as he got to be dictator.

Today in the WaPoo Broder cites an upset Indiana election the media largely ignored.

It is also, I think, a symptom of a call for more accountability and leadership at all levels of government. In a time of war and wrenching economic change, the voters are beginning to demand more candor and more responsibility.

From day one, Bush has acted like an out-of-control adolescent wild on drugs…these days his prime narcotic is power…long past time the Congress do its duty.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01790.html

Now for a morning cuppa and comments reading.

This has been bugging me. When righties repeatedly say we must preserve the Constitution in it’s “orginal” form, what about the Bill of Rights that wasn’t ratified until 2 years later? Is that a sneaky way of saying the Bill of Rights doesn’t count (spying, wiretapping, etc, no big deal) & if so, why aren’t more people talking about this? Someone with constitutional knowledge comment or set me straight, please.

OT but from last post.
Jane, I was taught a long time ago that if you use a word three times in one day you will own that word. PILECRAP PILECRAP PILECRAP Do I own it now?

Re the Polkatz numbers, what accounts for the latest slight rise after October 2005? An Iraqi election? His T.V. speeches (ya, right. It even seems that each time Rove puts on a display of ‘get those numbers up’, the results become less and less effective.

I see 4 rises in his numbers: 9/11, the Iraq war, the Nov. 04 election, and that last rise.

When Bush talks up his brother Jeb for a pres bid, inspite of his poll numbers being so low, it tells you something about his sense of reality. It is seemly to keep it amongst themselves but to make it public, reveals the scarier side of this messianic buffoon.

We live in a facist state now, having a war criminal as a leader. Saddam told the truth, Bush told a lie. We live with it!! Orwell overstated the intelligence of the people in his book 1984. The richest country in the world has the stupidist people as citizins. We can never live down the reelection of George Bush, knowing what we knew in 2004. How can so many people be so wrong in voting for this criminal? For the repubs to hope for a fight with the dems on FISA law breaking, bragging about evesdroppping on American citizens, crystalizes the law breaking mind set of the Bush administration. Expect more insults to our Constitution, for as Bush put it, “Its only a goddamned piece of paper”

Wow. Goddmamit, I’m mad. I don’t even have anything to say, I’m so mad at these people.

wesgpc 28 (that’s as far as I’ve gotten through the comments) …”And I think the DOJ thing must called what it is: The DOJ cover-up. It is a cover up of criminal or unconstitutional activity”… I don’t think so, I think the careerists at DOJ have integrity, and this is their way of PUBLICLY calling “bullshit” on administration stonewalling.

Frank-
Mary is a bitch and a fink of womanhood, regardless of her orientation. Any woman who supports the Bush junta should be forced to surrender her clitoris at the door. It’s not like they’ll need it anyway.

ironranger 172: that’s a good damn question. . . bueller? anyone?

Maybe Bush should be censored for this kind of BS.

Pach at 168

Nice work if you can get it!

One telco told the Bushistas to go pound salt: Qwest.

As Atrios and Matt Stoller say, we should reward good behavior. Switch from Verizon/ATT&T/etc. to Qwest and make sure you tell them WHY.

It starts with steps like this. Then it gets way worse. Think it’s not coming? Think again.

I think it’s ridiculous to keep calling it the “Department of Justice” when justice seems to be the last thing being served, at least in certain quarters.

Mornin’ Firepups,

Lets see . . . which corporate entities participated in this program . . . ???

and one more time, which corporations are pushing against Net Neutrality . . . ???

ironranger – EXCELLENT point!

and a Libertarian is an anarchist with a credit card.

And jeesus, What is wrong with the media? Why aren’t they all over the adminsitration double speak!

If a cavalier scumbag like Karl Rove can still have a security clearance after having been under investigation for leaking national security secrets for almost 3 years then why on earth can’t DOJ lawyers get a clearance?

And even if et is never proven that Rove knowingly blew the cover of an undercover operative (and thus cannot be prosecuted), his behavior by ANY standards was (and is) extremely irresponsible and would be grounds for firing in the REAL world.

Someone should ask Tony Snow, why does Karl Rove still have access to the nations secrets when he makes a living leaking shit?

So much good stuff in this thread that I’m just proud to be EPU’d!!

Diebold!
jim

ironranger 172: From what I’ve read about their “original intent” theory, it’s not a simple “gotcha” like that, it’s more a way of claiming that they’re the ones that are following what the Constitution really means, and others are twisting the meaning, when in fact the opposite is closer to the truth.

I see it as being rather similar to the fundamentalists’ claims that the Founders never intended there to be separation of church and state (despite the fact that several of them, most prominently Jefferson, wrote about it in very explicit terms.) They cherry-pick writings from the Founders that support their point of view (or use fake ones, whether they know it or not; there are entire websites about quotes from Madison used by fundamentalists which are actually fakes concocted by an earlier generation of religious demagogues.) They ignore evidence to the contrary, and then claim that they have the “real” truth.

“Original intent” has a little more intellectual heft to it, but it’s still basically a way for them to ignore up to 200 years of interpretation (including how the Constitution was interpreted when those who wrote it were still alive) if it doesn’t suit them, while claiming to follow the “real” meaning. And there’s plenty of evidence (Bush v. Gore being a prime example, but there are others) that many who claim to subscribe to the theory are willing to toss it aside when it gets in the way.

It’s bullshit, but a much more complex form than what you suggested, I think.

!ztiF

And good on Qwest for standing up to govt pressure.

Now if they’ll just get my 20 hour down DSL connection up and running again!

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New thread. I’ve been EPU’ed!

Why did GW Bush invent the word “decider?”

His little pea-brain realized that using the word “dictator” wouldn’t go over too well, so mid-sentence, the word “decider” was created.

Try substituting “dictator” for “decider” and you’ll see that it’s the only existing (real) English word that will parse in that sentence.

The last time we heard from special inspector general Stuart Bowen, he was reporting that sabotage, poor management and corruption plague U.S. reconstruction efforts in Iraq. As the Wall Street Journal is reporting this morning, the Republican-led Congress has moved quickly to address the problem: It’s denying Bowen authority to monitor the $21 billion in reconstruction funds included in the latest Iraq funding bill.

http://www.salon.com/politics/…..newsletter

Direct link to WSJ

http://online.wsj.com/article/…..48480.html

Merci beaucoup, Sharkbabe! :) I shoulda known that. I am lesser hip than most, I guess. (*slap*, stop that!)

Tony Danza in his opening monolog on his daily talk show today talked like we’d all like to hear dems talk. He spoke of the indictments reaching deep into the halls of Washington power coming down on a lot of politicians in a big, big, way. He points to a little girl in the audience and says, “It shouldn’t be this way for you, little girl.”

His bottom line is that it’s all about money in politics. The only way you can get your way is to pay your way in politics. And that’s just not right.

It was a pretty powerful presentation, with, can you believe it?, passion even!

Good for you,Tony Danza.

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Good for Tony Danza, J i O!

The Paper Tiger Strikes Again. Once more, Arlen Specter talks big, but will he deliver (when was the last time he actually swore in a witness?)?

Specter Demands Phone Companies Testify on Database (Update1)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/…..p;refer=us

“Don’t rock the boat” is a sure recipe for minimizing our gains.

Rahm Emmanuel is worried that when the inevitable GOP slimeblast gears up this fall, we won’t have the money to fight back, because Dean’s spent too much money on the 50-state strategy.

But that misses the point. What the Dems need to do, NOW, is define both the GOP and themselves FIRST, so that when the slimeblast arrives, we’ve got some Teflon.

Year after year after year, we Dems let the GOP define US, as well as themselves. It’s insane. This year, we need to be the ones doing the defining.

Or as Reagan said, “If your opponent is drowning, throw him an anchor.”

OT – anybody know how to type accents in this environment? (accent circonflex, aigu, grave, etc.)

I must say it feels overwhelming as I ponder the thought of kicking all the bums out…who has the energy to govern this place? The bribes and kickbacks, all the corruption look like a back hander to these creeps just so we all don’t need to stop and think about how to run the place ourselves.

Heavy sigh, I seem to be having a Prufrock moment. I’ve seen the eternal footman hold my coat and snigger…

Fusty Doggo – heh
you might like my “family-friendly” inversion of regular commenter rwcole’s usual epithet for W. My version is “Fustercluck”.

punaise,

I know very little html but there has to be a special character set with appropriate tags somewhere.

Ah, here you go.

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Brul&eacute

And it works too!

Thanks for making me go look for that. Was always too lazy to do it for myself. lol

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Well hell, now. It worked in preview!

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Let’s see if copyright takes. &copy

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punaise,

I guess you can’t do those special characters on FDL. The tags preview well but don’t take in the comments.

That’s strange.

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punaise. Fuster Cluck,thanks, I’ll bear it in mind.
Me, I’m just a pheasant plucker but I’m wondering if we can acheive a non-violent way to bring down this regime? Clearly it’s too late for big ideas on this thread. Neverthless I’m wondering when we’ll tie the threads together, sew up the gauntlet and throw it down.

Thanks redshift. I think that I will use that on people that get “nuance” & the schoolhouse rock version on the others.. like those who ask me, “Who is Hallie Burton?”.

The government has been collecting “pen register” information (numbers calling and numbers called) for years and years, way before 9-11.

They’ve just gotten an easier way to do it now by tapping into the communication backbones of the major telecoms (’cept Qwest…who finally got my DSL service back up and running after 20 long hours, praise the lord).

Since the very beginning of the use of microwaves to carry long-distance communications the govt (probably NSA) has been sucking every microwave transmission out of the air and using software (there’s a small 14 person outfit in York, Nebraska, that’s been writing this sigint capture software under govt contract for years) to analyze the patterns of phone calls.

How does this information get used?

Here’s a suspicion of mine as a result of way too many coinkydinks on Interstate 80 where huge stashes of drugs and cash are routinely intercepted by the Nebraska State Patrol (who have, at any given time, only about 70 troopers on the entire Nebraska highway system).

There’s got to be some way these guys know there’s a shipment of contraband working it’s way west to east, or east to west. They know because the couriers have instructions to “phone home” occasionally to “report in” on their status. Just a simple phone call. They don’t even have to say anything and they’re already busted.

Starting with just one “real” phone number that is known to be part of an organized ring, data mining techniques soon will yield up the rest of the ring if every outcall and incoming call are recorded and analyzed.

Once the contraband begins to move, as traced by phone calls (not the content, remember, the information in the phone call is not important, only the numbers and times) law enforcement will have a pretty good idea exactly when the contraband will pass a certain point, say in Nebraska.

From that moment on, all the officer needs is a license plate from, say California, and two swarthy individuals. Plop down a pretext for a stop (there’s ca’zillions of ‘em), bring in the dogs, and voila…huge contraband bust.

Humans are creatures of habit and patterns. If the NSA can deduce meaning from crypto-dudes trying everything in their power to keep the meanings hidden, how much more can they learn by tracking the simple habits and patterns of ordinary Americans living their every day lives?

OK, Fusty…there you go. A big idea.

Not necessarily the idea you were fishing for, but a big idea nevertheless.

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Laura Rozen brings us this from SoCal.

“They’re doing the same thing they did in high school. They’re just 30 years older,” added Jimmy.

Jimmy said Wilkes and Foggo always had wild parties, women, and fast cars.

The FBI is now investigating whether the two Hilltop High grads used poker parties and prostitutes at the Watergate Hotel to get votes in Congress. […]

Wow! Sounds like Risky Business meets Ferris Bueller’s Day Off.

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What I want the Democratic party to stand for:

–Honest, transparent government with lots of oversight in all areas (especially the spending of tax dollars)
–Massive investigations of Bu$hCo operations in ALL AREAS.
–Public financing of political campaigns with limits on broadcast advertising and MANDATORY DEBATES AND PUBLIC FORUMS IN ALL POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS.
–Out of Iraq!
–Lots and lots and lots of new REGULATIONS FOR LARGE MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS—And END the rotation/revolving door between gov’t and Big Biz (10-year, or longer, time interval between those jobs).
–Raise taxes on the rich–Repeal ALL the tax cuts given over last 6 years for folks making over $250,000 a year.
–Eliminate Missile Defense boondoggle entirely.
–Terminate NCLB
–Strong support for gay rights and gay marriage.
–Impose tough, unequivocal FELONY penalties for ALL EMPLOYERS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, INCLUDING HUGE CORPORATIONS.
–Rebuild and restructure FEMA and other gutted federal disaster relief agencies.
–Strong support for SMALL BUSINESS in the form of tax breaks and lessened regulations.
–Eliminate ALL offshore tax shelters for corporations.
–END the ominous trend of privatizing our military–TOTALLY, in all aspects.
–End ALL giving of government moneys to “faith-based†(i.e.religious) organizations.
–Strong environmental policies aimed at cleaner water and air.
–MANDATORY mileage requirements for Detroit auto-makers.
–MAJOR gov’t project at developing alternative energy sources and the infrastructure necessary to mass-produce them.

–PAPER BALLOTS for ALL elections witn NO ELECTRONIC VOTING OR TABULATION, EVER!

–Break up the Media Monopoly corporations and greatly INCREASE AND STRENGTHEN public ownership of Media outlets of ALL kinds;
Establish additional PUBLIC networks on TV, Radio and Internet.
–Strengthen national whistleblower protection laws, bigtime.
–Build more prisons to house Republican political crooks and gangsters after their convictions.
–Pro-Choice.

You won’t be getting the KKK vote or the Nazi vote with those policies, but that’s a good thing, IMO.

OK, I hear lots of calls to yell at the telecoms that sold their customers out. Qwest also should not be forgotten as Joe Nacchio had the courage of our convictions.

I phoned Qwest Other Departments line 800-879-4357, punched “O” a couple of times to get to a live representative and sang the praises of the Senior Management for keeping up the tradition of former CEO Joe Nacchio who was the one that actually told the NSA to take a hike.

She asked me if I wanted to be transferred to a “Customer Commendation” line (a place where you can leave a 3 minute recording praising a Qwest employee for a good job). I said, “You bet!” I was transferred and left a message praising Richard C. Notebaert Chairman and CEO and other senior managers for keeping up Joe’s tradition.

I also mentioned that the internets have been strongly pushing the idea of switching en mass to Qwest. Ca-ching! Gets ‘em every time.

Anybody wants to call Qwest go right ahead. Use that number above and tell a live rep you want to leave a message on the Customer Commendation line recording. You can be sure, because you’ve got a direct line to them, they’ll get your message of praise. It’s not like they’re bombarded with them, know what I mean?

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punaise,

Maybe I should reconsider my identity SWAGs.

Don’t sound like no artist to me. Digby’esque in the gender category too, methinks.

Me brain hurts!

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The top 10 entries for “litigation” on Google’s new Trends search page are all in the U.S.

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

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op99 #180: you are correct. Ambiguous language. Should be “Bush cover up and stonewall of DOJ”

This is the worst, most blatant stonewalling I’ve ever seen. Things get scarier and scarier, the more that comes out. While it’s good that it’s finally coming out, it’s appalling and terrifying to think that this administration has been doing whatever it wants, whenever it wants, and CONTINUES TO DO SO, with no repercussions. All of the lobbying scandals, hookers and golf junkets are really just flies atop an enormous pile of dung that the administration has been telling us (with the media’s help) is a shining mountain of patriotism and moral certitude (how similar the sound of that word is to “turpitude”).
We should all be saying “God HELP America,” rather than God Bless America.

Adrienne,

You wrote: flies atop an enormous pile of dung

Well, as any good thermophilic composter will tell you, if you do it correctly, you won’t have flies on top of your well mixed compost pile.

Not only that, but I’ve heard that composting, true, hot, aerobic composting is the best metaphor for turning truly nasty stuff into the nicest, most earth-friendly stuff there is: a noble food for fertile soil.

It’s not the stuff, it’s the process that makes the difference.

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only today……what a day for news. it just gets worse and worse.

Roger Kuptana, an Inuit tracker from the Northwest Territories, suspected the American hunter he was guiding had shot a hybrid bear last month after noticing its white fur had brown patches and it had the long claws and slightly humped back of a grizzly.

Territorial officials seized the creature’s body and a DNA test from Wildlife Genetics International, a lab in British Columbia, has confirmed that the hybrid was born of a polar mother and grizzly father.

“It’s something we’ve all known was theoretically possible because their habitats overlap a little bit and their breeding seasons overlap a little bit,” said Ian Stirling, a polar bear biologist with the Canadian Wildlife Service in Edmonton. “It’s the first time it’s known to have happened in the wild.”

Stirling said polar bears and grizzlies have been successfully paired in zoos and that their offspring are fertile, but there has been no documented case in the wild.

Kuptana, a guide from Sachs Harbour in the Northwest Territories, was tracking with Idaho big-game hunter Jim Martell, who had paid C$50,000 (US$45,500, or euro35,800), for a license to hunt polar bears.

The DNA results were good news for the 65-year-old hunter, who could have been fined or jailed for up to a year for shooting a grizzly. The Northwest Territories Environment and Natural Resources Department now intends to return the bear to Martell.

“It will be quite a trophy,” Martell told the National Post newspaper last week, before the DNA results were in. He is now in Yellowknife for another hunt, this time with a permit to shoot a grizzly bear. Martell told the newspaper he has dubbed the hybrid creature a “polargrizz.”

………….i’ve dubbed the creature “dead”.

rusty,

Takes salt ‘n peppa to a whole different level, eh?

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$45,500 seems like a bargain for a license to kill a hybrid bear.

J i O 205-09: merci for trying to accentuate the positive

Adrienne, my Bumpah sticka says “God SAVE America!

But really, I think it’s going to be up to US!

An aside on the data-mining and snooping, etc.:
Factor in, that since before 9/11, the ISRAELIS have OWNED most of our communications system’s lines… so it’s not just our own government spying on us, it’s probably the MOSSAD, too!

Now Nancy Numb-nuts Pelosi declares that they will NOT seek impeachment… WHOT th’F**!!??
What do they think the 71% who disapprove of Bush WANT them to do!? What’s the “strategy” here beside shooting themselves in the foot… AGAIN?

Check out my website for some gratuitous Political Cartoon Violence. Just what the Dr. ordered!