Comments on: Gender and Identity Politics http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 16 Feb 2012 06:06:58 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: jdbrooklyn http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/#comment-99314 jdbrooklyn Thu, 11 May 2006 20:27:26 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/#comment-99314 <p>Sorry folks: I’m a bit slow to post. One bit of news relating to the near black out of female voices/opinions in the media: Fenton Communications founded a website called shesource.org, which serves as a resource for finding WOMEN voices to speak for/to the media. Please check it out and suggest ALL media outlets rely on the site as a place to find FEMALE opinion makers. Thanks Jane for addressing such a necessary, potent, crucial topic… As a woman, I can say with confidence, everywhere I look it’s white men white men and more white men… SNOOZE.!!! depressing.!!!</p> Sorry folks: I’m a bit slow to post. One bit of news relating to the near black out of female voices/opinions in the media: Fenton Communications founded a website called shesource.org, which serves as a resource for finding WOMEN voices to speak for/to the media. Please check it out and suggest ALL media outlets rely on the site as a place to find FEMALE opinion makers. Thanks Jane for addressing such a necessary, potent, crucial topic… As a woman, I can say with confidence, everywhere I look it’s white men white men and more white men… SNOOZE.!!! depressing.!!!

]]> By: cdj http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/#comment-99311 cdj Thu, 11 May 2006 20:25:55 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/#comment-99311 <p>While I sympathize with the various challenges facing women in media, the fact (imo of course) of the matter is that Amy Sullivan sucks. I don’t even read Drum anymore, unless someone else links to it with an especially catchy snippet. Sullivan is part of the reason for this. (Drum is the other part - lol - so it isn’t like I’ll be rushing back that after Sullivan leaves…)</p> While I sympathize with the various challenges facing women in media, the fact (imo of course) of the matter is that Amy Sullivan sucks. I don’t even read Drum anymore, unless someone else links to it with an especially catchy snippet. Sullivan is part of the reason for this. (Drum is the other part – lol – so it isn’t like I’ll be rushing back that after Sullivan leaves…)

]]> By: Nancy http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/#comment-99291 Nancy Thu, 11 May 2006 20:14:01 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/#comment-99291 <p><em>I know there are inequities. But the inequities are everywhere. ALL white men do not get preferential treatment. My guess is the HOT chicks get preferential treatment, whether they are black or asian or white. How about the NOT SO HOT chicks? Well, not so much. But of course, that’s all WHITEY’S fault. </em></p> <p>So how did this post work out for you? Did it drive traffic to your Internet marketing business?</p> I know there are inequities. But the inequities are everywhere. ALL white men do not get preferential treatment. My guess is the HOT chicks get preferential treatment, whether they are black or asian or white. How about the NOT SO HOT chicks? Well, not so much. But of course, that’s all WHITEY’S fault.

So how did this post work out for you? Did it drive traffic to your Internet marketing business?

]]> By: Rayne http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/#comment-98975 Rayne Thu, 11 May 2006 17:08:21 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/#comment-98975 <p>mui (289) — probably, based on my weird predilection for <a href="http://blogs.salon.com/0001549/2003/09/10.html#a939">the intersection of the technical and human</a>…</p> mui (289) — probably, based on my weird predilection for the intersection of the technical and human…

]]> By: Feminist Law Professors » Blog Archive » Gender and Media and Blogging http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/#comment-98904 Feminist Law Professors » Blog Archive » Gender and Media and Blogging Thu, 11 May 2006 16:35:07 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/#comment-98904 <p>[…] Read two posts by Jane Hamsher of Firedoglake: here and here. She acknowledges not making an effort to link to women bloggers more, much to her credit. Garance Franke Ruta noted in the comments to the first post: Glad to see you taking up the banner. I’ve grown tired of feeling like the only one who does so. Only one, in part because, once Amy Sullivan leaves the Washington Monthly toward the end of the month, I will have the peculiar honor of being the only female more than half-time political writer left at any of the liberal magazines in Washington. (Michelle Cottle at TNR being the other one, and part-time.) Sigh. […]</p> […] Read two posts by Jane Hamsher of Firedoglake: here and here. She acknowledges not making an effort to link to women bloggers more, much to her credit. Garance Franke Ruta noted in the comments to the first post: Glad to see you taking up the banner. I’ve grown tired of feeling like the only one who does so. Only one, in part because, once Amy Sullivan leaves the Washington Monthly toward the end of the month, I will have the peculiar honor of being the only female more than half-time political writer left at any of the liberal magazines in Washington. (Michelle Cottle at TNR being the other one, and part-time.) Sigh. […]

]]> By: mui http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/#comment-98857 mui Thu, 11 May 2006 16:15:01 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/#comment-98857 <p><i>It’s easier to dismiss an argument as fringe if you don’t identify with the person making the argument. </i>Michelle E: Agreed. A lot of people don’t know how to walk in others’ shoes. I think women can walk in the fever swamp– but they can also change & see the other’s position better. That sounds like male-bashing, and I don’t think all men are obtuse, but . . .in general.</p> It’s easier to dismiss an argument as fringe if you don’t identify with the person making the argument. Michelle E: Agreed. A lot of people don’t know how to walk in others’ shoes. I think women can walk in the fever swamp– but they can also change & see the other’s position better. That sounds like male-bashing, and I don’t think all men are obtuse, but . . .in general.

]]> By: mui http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/#comment-98814 mui Thu, 11 May 2006 15:56:57 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/#comment-98814 <p>& Rayne, you might like Susan Herring’s work.</p> & Rayne, you might like Susan Herring’s work.

]]> By: mui http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/#comment-98809 mui Thu, 11 May 2006 15:55:39 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/#comment-98809 <p>re: Journal of Computer-mediated communications. Some very, very good stuff there on some of the issues talked about: X-cultural divides on the net etc..(academic, though o.k., but worth it). The bibliographies are worth reading too.<br /> <a href="http://jcmc.indiana.edu/issues.html">http://jcmc.indiana.edu/issues.html</a></p> re: Journal of Computer-mediated communications. Some very, very good stuff there on some of the issues talked about: X-cultural divides on the net etc..(academic, though o.k., but worth it). The bibliographies are worth reading too.
http://jcmc.indiana.edu/issues.html

]]> By: Rayne http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/#comment-98788 Rayne Thu, 11 May 2006 15:41:26 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/#comment-98788 <p>Ech. I don’t even know where to start with that, shrubya. You just made my case.</p> <p>For the record, I’m not only female but multi-ethnic and multi-racial. I read male bloggers, but I get really bored with reading the same things ad nauseum at their sites, and virtually nothing that acknowledges women and minorities exist.</p> <p>And I’m also quite bored with white men whining that they’re blamed for everything, when they autmatically make 25+% percent more than women, when they’re overwhelming represented in government, when the media worries about them (”where are all the 18-35 year old men?? why aren’t they watching television?? what do we provide in the way of programming to win them back??”) and not women or minorities, when Congress worries about YOUR opportunities to start a new business (nevermind that women outpace men in business creation).</p> <p>Yeah, cry me a river. By the way, I have an eight-year-old son, and no, he thinks he is going to be a scientist and the President of the United States, because he’s smarter than Bush and he thinks he can do a better job at solving problems. Does that sound like a victim to you? Hell no - and his mother says she’ll hock the farm if he wants to be those things. </p> <p>But she needs an equal and fair chance to get that farm paid off first. Not going to happen under this kind of administration.</p> Ech. I don’t even know where to start with that, shrubya. You just made my case.

For the record, I’m not only female but multi-ethnic and multi-racial. I read male bloggers, but I get really bored with reading the same things ad nauseum at their sites, and virtually nothing that acknowledges women and minorities exist.

And I’m also quite bored with white men whining that they’re blamed for everything, when they autmatically make 25+% percent more than women, when they’re overwhelming represented in government, when the media worries about them (”where are all the 18-35 year old men?? why aren’t they watching television?? what do we provide in the way of programming to win them back??”) and not women or minorities, when Congress worries about YOUR opportunities to start a new business (nevermind that women outpace men in business creation).

Yeah, cry me a river. By the way, I have an eight-year-old son, and no, he thinks he is going to be a scientist and the President of the United States, because he’s smarter than Bush and he thinks he can do a better job at solving problems. Does that sound like a victim to you? Hell no – and his mother says she’ll hock the farm if he wants to be those things.

But she needs an equal and fair chance to get that farm paid off first. Not going to happen under this kind of administration.

]]> By: moron http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/#comment-98699 moron Thu, 11 May 2006 14:32:21 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/10/gender-and-identity-politics/#comment-98699 <p>sorry, ladies, but i’d be happy if they fired amy sullivan. i think she’s a real dim bulb with only one “idea”: that the democrats can win by moving to the right.</p> <p>one idea, and a totally discredited one at that.</p> sorry, ladies, but i’d be happy if they fired amy sullivan. i think she’s a real dim bulb with only one “idea”: that the democrats can win by moving to the right.

one idea, and a totally discredited one at that.

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