Munchausen!

Fitz me, babe!

Fitz!!!

This is just so embarrassing…

His STOCKED lake. He could have had the same fish delivered into his refrigerator instead of dropped into his lake.

Is he going insane now or am I?

Ralph: it aint you

Doofus for real. You can’t fake true doofosity–it goes right to the bone, the substance of which his entire head seems to be made.

Does it say anything about America that half of them voted for this idiot? We have ourselves collectively to blame. We have a President who can barely complete a full sentence unless it’s written out.

Well, gee, Christy, it’s not as if he brokered peace around the world or anything! Can you think of anything else he should be prouder of? As far as I’m concerned, the more vacation days be takes, the less harm he does, so I’m not going to knock it! Maybe we can help him go on an extended vacation sometime?

I was going to try to be generous and say this about the last paragraph of the blog entry, but if you wish, you can also apply it to the last sentence of Ralph’s reply:

Can’t we have both?

For once, he gets something right. That is his best moment.

It was a Jeebus Fish!!! He had it mounted on the back of the preznit’s limo!!!

well, as someone pointed out elsewhere, it probably is his best moment since installation. name one successful initiative otherwise.

but seriously, the idea that this stupid fucker didn’t have enough clue to not say this should be enough to yank his ass back to crawford (for a short respite before the long trip to the hague). he’s insane.

Did he eat his kill? Did Laura don an apron and fry up the beauty? Or did he take it to a taxidermist and get it mounted to memorialize his favorite, best day?

And it’s a perch. They go flippy-flippy. No real fight, no hunt, no mental effort to find where the fish is at and then figure out how to trick it into biting. Just throw out the bobber-and-bait and wait for little flippy-flippy to come around for lunch.
Pretty much says it all. Remember how Jimmy Carter was defined by a killer rabbit? How’s ’bout we-all define Mr. six-year-old Texas Macho by a stocked perch?

love the picture….. fish’in while New Orleans drowns!

‘dragman’ is a synonym for fisherman, so we have the Doofus Dragman for prez.

So…the best thing about bein’ presnit is all the vacation time?

It was a Jeebus Fish!!! He had it mounted on the back of the preznit’s limo!!!

I’ll bet it’s part of his rotating screen saver, too .. the other several pictures being the CNN-boradcast topplig of Saddam’s statue and a mushroom cloud … the fourth photo being a photo-shopped version of him sitting on a cloud at the right-hand of God.

But .. I’m not sure he uses a computer, or knows how to turn on one …

Great picture. Of course, at first I looked at what was going on this foreground. Then, I wondered why there were buildings in the background, and noticed the people in the water. LMAO.

Why in hell would anyone wear a suede jacket while fishing? Another great jusgement call. Who got to clean that one up?

Nice pic. Christy, you forgot to show the picture of the President checking out this “lake” from AF1.

Okay. I can spell. Just can’t type. Judgement.

The fish he’s holding in the pitcture is a striped bass, not a perch. Same over at Huffpost.
Gotta find that perch picture….

but what about all them meetins with Abramoff? if the reports I’ve heard of Abramoff having 200+ visits to the WH, he’s been there about 1 of every 5 days aWol’s been there

That was probably the moment he did the least damage.

I think the doofus thing is 100% manufactured – I mean the *sshole went to Harvard, right? Even the accent is totally fake.

It seems to me when your credibility rating is at an all-time low, if you’re Karl Rove, you try to go back to the good ol’ boy persona that got you through the last 2 elections – “being” the guy, like Tweety harped on every damn day during the ‘04 election, that everybody wants to have a beer with, go to a barbeque with, go fishing with. Get the NASCARs back on board.

You can’t be a good ol’ boy and everybody’s “buddy” and still be a lying, scheming, murdering, caluclating, torturing, character-assassinating, war-mongering fascist, right? I’m thinking we’re going to be seeing a lot more “aw shucks” stuff in the near future…

I posted this sad story on my meager blog earlier today. In the same interview, Chimpy-Chimpy-Bang-Bang tried to hint at why it took him why he went in to a 7.5 minute daze after he was told that the country was under attack.

“In such a situation it takes a while before one understands what is happening. I would say that this was the hardest moment, once I had the real picture before my eyes.â€

His problem has been revealed, he’s illiterate. The Decider needs pictures to understand things, not words. Words are too confusing, english is too hard to master — from now on, all communication to the White House must be in picture book form.

http://wolfblog.net/index.php/…..correctly/

nitpcky: Judgment.

um. now i am hoisted by my own petard, or something.

I will try again.

nitpicky: judgment

a photo-shopped version of him sitting on a cloud at the right-hand of God.

More likely, a photo of Bush with God in the subservient position, gazing adoringly at the Dear Leader.

So the Pres. must import his perch. No. ‘mercan perch just don’t get that big. I guess our perch are not good enough. Illegal perch ? Do they have papers ?

“his own lake”, would that be Lake New Orleans in the background? Bush can take credit for that one too.

Catching the big perch is a substitute, in Bush’s mind, for not catching that other big fish Osama Bin Laden. Interesting that the Bush presidency’s biggest moment didn’t involve the least benefit to any of his fellow citizens.

Oh come on. We’re just jealous. How many of us ever caught a 7.5 lb. perch in our own lake?

Headline on Yahoo front page: “Bush says he saw into Angela Merkel’s soul.”

I can’t take this anymore.

“I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.” GW Bush—Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000

I’ll bet he had it mounted. He’d be better off if he shut his mouth. And so would the fish….

This guy is too easily distracted by goats and fish…it’s hard to tell if he has ADHD or is just plain retarded. Either way, it’s pretty embarrassing.

cbl (#81 last thread) — don’t let up, though, no matter what you hear now from Hoekstra. He is a yes-man through and through to this administration. Fax and call him and tell him to do the right thing by us by rejecting Hayden; his constituents in the pure-red zone here in Michigan certainly won’t do that.

scarecrow (#78 last thread) — Umm, sorry, gotta’ disagree with you on Hayden, he is NOT a “good soldier” in the same mold as Powell. He is an opportunist; once you read all of the testimony he gave in 2001-2003 to Congress, you’ll realize he is very good at telling people what they want to hear. He said he was fine with FISA, for example. What a crock of crap. He certainly didn’t say that in 2005-2006.

LOL Semblance–tell it like it is!

mjs: I realized that after the POST button was hit. But, what the hell…it’s Sunday morning-changing-to-noon, the cats are snuggling next to me, the coffee w/ milk is particularly satisfying, and there are two new broods of ducklings at the pond. I’m not going to feel picked on. Thanks! Hope your Sunday is as good as mine! :)

Sonate — right. Never caught a “perch” or “stiped bass” that big. Nor started a war, nor botched the budget, nor bugged a country, nor kidnapped/tortured anyone, nor driven more people out of health care or into poverty, nor . . .

everhopeful,

He really IS that stupid. He can’t even get the good ol’ boy thing right. When middle American fisherman hear “7.5 pound perch”, they’re going to say, “Whaaa . . .???”

Either he’s lying, or he’s too stupid to know what kind of fish he caught, or he caught a Nile perch from a stocked lake. (Homegrown perch are not that big.)

BTW, Harvard? I’ve been in higher ed. for ten years. A degree from a prestigious university, especially when you’re from tremendous wealth, is no guarantee of intelligence. I once had to help the president of a college fill out a W-4, and the endless trail of pretentious goofballs I used to see when I went to Claremont was very eye-opening.

However, I do agree with you on the accent. Fake up the wazoo.

Funny, that’s my best memory of Chimpy’s
presidency too.

What else could he say?

Straight on- I challenge anyone to name a single accomplishment effected by this pissant that has benefitted either all Americans, or humanity.

That’s what the Secret Service call him…DOOFUS instead of POTUS…..Me? I call him President Death I’m pretty sure this guy would agree with me…if he could.

Oh.My.God.
I really don’t have the words for this one other than to say he is a worldwide embarassment.

Sonoma stumps the thread hehe

Rayne — not disagreeing with you. If I understand you correctly, you’re suggesting someone who wouldn’t openly question what he’s asked to do, which was my concern. In that sense, Powell was similar.

gyrogearlo*se – what’s up with the missing o?

Well, being a doofus and using one’s doofusness for political purposes aren’t mutually exclusive. :)

Of course, there’s no mention that it’s a man-made pond on his property, kept well-stocked with half-starved fish for his fishing enjoyment and accessible to the press for the odd photo op.

And, knowing him, he probably had his thumb on the scale when they were weighing it.

motherlowman,

It must have been a Nile Perch, though it could have been a walleye or Saugeye, which are both legitimate members of the perch family. Your average fisherman doesn’t refer to them as perch, not in my experiences anyway.

Or it could be that he’s lying about it, which makes more sense to me.

This is also serious,

White perch are also degrading the gene pool of white. bass by hybridizing with them. MANAGEMENT/ PREVENTION: In Indiana, it is illegal to import or possess …

more Email fun from Leopold http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/050706Z.shtml

I wonder how much it cost the taxpayers for Doofus to “catch” that fish in his stocked pond, if you figure the cost of flying Air Force One on a round-trip to Crawford for the occasion, plus security detail, etc.? But I guess it was worth it so Doofus could have a nice day (insert smily face here)…

So then, Shrub thought that catching that fish was even neater than standing on rubble or gloriously landing on a carrier?

…the chimp and the fish:

http://wolfblog.net/images/chimpyandfishy.jpg

In all fairness, I suspect that most historians will come to agree that this was indeed the high point of his presidency.

Imperch ! permanent vacation please. whatever it takes to rid ourselves of this upper crusted bottom feeder.

The Chimpster must have left the fish in his desk drawer in the Oval Office… Something sure is fishy up on Capitol Hill.

…sorry, had to do it

mommybrain says:
May 7th, 2006 at 12:07 pm

Did someone at Wheel of Fortune buy it? *g* Does that also explain some missing Ws?

Wow… well, at least he’s (indirectly) recognizing he’s a failure.

everhopeful #26 — W’s undergraduate degree is from Yale, where he was a legacy admit. (That’s affirmative action for rich white folks.) A friend of mine tutored him there and says he was really, truly stupid. The Harvard degree is an MBA. I don’t know how he did there, but apparently he didn’t learn much about management. Or finance. Or accounting, except the off-books type.

I find it interesting that he has managed to devalue two Ivy League degrees while pretending to be a good ol’ boy towel-snapper. I find it terrifying that he is really, truly stupid but is convinced that he’s God’s chosen President, always wrong but never in doubt. We’d all be better off if he had stuck with slaughtering fish.

#57 Eureka Springs, AR says:

Imperch!

Mwahahahhaa!!

twolf1 says: “Something sure is fishy up on Capitol Hill.

…sorry, had to do it”

May 7th, 2006 at 12:16 pm

No need to apologize – it was inevitable that someone would worm that into this thread. *g*

Why the outrage/disgust? That WAS the high point of his presidency. The guy finally shows a little honesty and we slam him. I don’t get it.

It’s pretty clear that Bush doesn’t get it, either.

Wonderful.

I’m sure that every soldier, airman, sailor and marine who has served in Iraq and Afghanistan, especially those who were injured and the families of those who died, will be glad to hear that their Commander in Chief ranks their achievements and sacrifice somewhere below catching a fucking fish.

Catching a fish is his best moment?

Good grief!

Eureka Springs, AR says:

“This is serious” Yes it is. This nit-wit president’s environmental record is nothing short of diabolical. The world is burning up while this fossil fuel pusher of a nincompoop president continues his stubborn refusal to face the problem of global warming. Nero fiddled, Bush goes fishing. And we fry.

He was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

But that was before the Iraq war.

Hey, it can’t be all that easy for poor Georgie to catch a fish in his own stocked lake . . . we musn’t overestimate him. After all, it’s Darth Cheney that does all the hard stuff for him.

If I had been on that fishing trip, I’d have kept the fish and thrown the president back. :-)

There’s a version of that picture floating round “the internets” with speech bubbles:

41: Where’s Condi?
43: They wouldn’t let her out of the 9th ward.

A 7.5 lb perch?

I think the story is a lie. A 7.5 lb perch is huge. I did a search and found this, although it’s unclear if these are record fish or record fish on a flyrod:

Perch, white 4-12 Messalonskee Lake, ME June 4, 1949 Mrs. Earl Small

Perch, yellow 4-3 Bordentown, NJ May, 1865 Dr. C.C. Abbot

Unless he’s referring to some sort of fish known as a ‘perch’ that is some exotic like the Nile Perch, which can grow to be truely huge, the fucker is lying again.

Well, at least he caught it with a hook and line. Cheney would have just had a servant plop the fish in front of him so he could blast it with a shotgun.

More, from a MD DNR website:

“Harford County Yellow Perch Sets World Record
Last weekend, Phil Deer, Jr. of Delta, Pennsylvania caught a record setting yellow perch in a pond in Harford County. The perch is the largest ever caught in Maryland and the fourth largest on record in the world. DNR confirmed the perch’s size as 3 pounds, 5 ounces and 16 ¼ inches long, which eclipsed the Maryland record of 2 pounds 6.75 ounces set at Deep Creek Lake in 2003. Worldwide, Deer’s fish places behind a 4 pound, 3 ounce perch caught in New Jersey in 1865; a 3 pound, 12 ounce perch caught in Michigan in 1947; and a 3 pound, 8 ounce perch caught in New York in 1982. All records are for the fresh water division.”

“I would say the best moment of all [Bush presidency] was when I caught a 7.5 pound perch in my lake,” he told the newspaper in an interview published on Sunday.

Really nothing to add to this, except to say: I agree.

Now, now, don’t go dumping on Bush for not being a real fisherman. Who else but a fisherman could have told that whopper of a story about WMDs?

(And look at everyone who fell for it, hook, line and sinker . . )

stocked ponds = fish in a barrel

Nile perch eat everything, like republicans, they have no tolerance for other breeds.
Disasterous

At least he has the decency to realize that he hasn’t had any great moments in his presidency. What else could he have said?

I’ve been trying to think of things that Bush was successful at. The best I could come up with was swiftboating – Bush has managed to wield swiftboating as a policy tool as effectively as Stalin wielded murder.

Other members of the CA Roots project added that he was good at raiding the treasury, starting illegal wars, and marginalizing congress. I guess you could also add destroying the free press. And letting cities drown (especially cities filled with poor, Democratic minorities).

In any case, I cannot come up with a POSITIVE activity that he is or has been good at. So catching a fish isn’t such a bad answer!

TP: incorrect post removed at author’s request (see below).

Right-Wingers flip out at “Los Rangers” on Texas Rangers’ jerseys on Friday for Cinco de Mayo (game was played in Texas).

Michelle Malkin said:

I understand the Rangers wanted to do something innocuous to recognize a holiday celebrating historical and cultural pride. But the politically correct selectivity here is telling. While it’s considered a celebration of “diversity” to acknowledge the military sacrifices of another nation’s heroes, it’s considered racist to acknowledge the military sacrifices of one’s own.

Case in point: Can you imagine if someone proposed changing the Rangers’ jerseys to “Confederate Rangers” to celebrate Confederate Heroes’ Day?

My feeling is, who cares? Honestly. I don’t see how this hurts anybody.

Can someone tell me if there’s a protest-sign maker because look at all these signs Michelle Malkin points to as a “never ending cartoon jihad.”

They are all (or most at least) written in the same handwriting.

Thread Terrorist: “Interesting that the Bush presidency’s biggest moment didn’t involve the least benefit to any of his fellow citizens.”

Actually, it did. It just didn’t involve the most damage.

Scarecrow – I think Hayden went much much further and was very comfortable with fibbing to Congress in his Oct. 2002 testimony and misrepresenting throughout, as well as engaging in coverup of lawbreaking programs, felony violations, for half a decade.

As a General, if he doesn’t know about not blindly following illegal orders – no matter who says to follow them – we have a major problem. Especially if he feels his chain of command duitie through the CIC authorize him to violate US laws whenever Gonzales gives a thumbs up and violate the Constitution on the fly. If Gonzales came to him before the NSA program came out and told him to shoot everyone in the program who knew anything about it, and that it was a “legal order” do you think he wouldn’t have a duty to question it anyway? Of course he would and he knows that. He also knows that Gonzales argument boils down to “it’s legal bc the President says to do it” and with some military background, he knows just how valid that justification is(not).

But it is why the lawyers have been so much the weak link. Everyone who breaks every law and violates the Constitution points not to just Gonzales and Ashcroft, but the leagues of DOJ who don’t disagree, not “publically” horrors shivers.

This is duplicative of what Rayne posted, but:

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/N…../nsa27.pdf

#36 There is a certain irony here. This is one of the few times in the history of my Agency that the Director has testified in open session about operational matters. The first was in the mid 1970s when one of my predecessors sat here nearly mute while being grilled by Members of Congress for intruding upon the privacy rights of the American people. Largely as a result of those hearings, NSA is governed today by various executive orders and laws and these legal restrictions are drilled into NSA employees and enforced through oversight by all three branches of government.

He says that NSA *is* governed by laws (but violates FISA over and over?) and those are enforced by oversight by all three branches of government – when he knows full well that the “wiretap program of which the President has spoken” and the massive AT&T program, which the President hasn’t admitted but which lawsuit the DOJ is trying to make go away without admitting the massive legal violations and while protecting that they continue – do not have oversight in any manner by Congress or the Courts.

Powell didn’t act as he should have, but he never fibbed so baldly and so badly.

#37 The second open session was a little over two years ago and I was the Director at that time. During that session, the House Intelligence Committee has me a series of questions with a single unifying theme: How could I reassure them that I was safeguarding the privacy rights of those protected by the U.S. constitution and U.S. law? During that session I even said… if Usama bin Laden crossed the bridge from Niagra Falls, Ontario to Niagra Falls, NY, U.S. law would give him certain protections that I would have to accommodate in the conduct of my mission. And now the third open session for the Director of the NSA: I am here what my agency did or did not know about 19 hijackers who were in this country legally.

How disingenous is it to imply that bin Laden could escape any legal surveillance by simply crossing the border into the United States? FISA provide plenty of options, including almost carte blanche (except for year end updates to Congressional committees) for non-US citizen foreign terrorists. Again with the fibbing and duck and dodge.

#38. When I spoke with our workforce shortly after the September 11 attacks, I told them that free people always had to decide where to draw the line between their liberty and their security, and I noted that the attacks would almost certainly push us, as a nation, more towards security. I then gave the NSA workforce a challenge: We were going to keep America free by making Americans feel safe again.

What gobbledygooky nothingness. It almost has to have been written by a Bush speechwriter. So a “free people” draws the line, except – uh, nah, I think *I’ll* just draw the line all by myself and call it a “challenge.” So, you draw the line between freedom and security, but, nah, you dont really – you just go with all safety, all the time (bc that adding hay when you are searching for needles thing works so well) and CALL it freedom???? And how do you “make Americans feel safe again” by having — covert, illegal programs that are undisclosed? Why would they feel any safer not knowing what you are doing than not knowing what you aren’t doing? I’m just wondering if he gave a get out of jail free card with that challenge?

#39 … I am not really helped by being told I need more Arabic linguists or … What I really need you to do is talk to your constituents and find out where the American people want that line between liberty and security to be.
There’s not even a “psssst – but until then I’ll just do what I want in violation of whatever laws are out there” and I would call it at absolute best a lie of ommission to pretend that he is waiting for COngress to make the determinations — in particular with all the Patriot Act smokescreen that made it look as if they were going to Congress. I think it is just vile for a General to go before Congress while surpressing illegal covert domestic surveillance programs and pretend to oversight of his programs by Congress and the COurts and pretend that he is dutifully awaiting the civilian input through Congress and Courts before modifications. Not, I guess, more vile than a Dept of Justice that falls in behind that as a “lawful and legal” approach, but vile and pernicious and vile nonetheless.

Powell dropped the ball and tried too hard to support those who were not worthy, but he didn’t participate in a half decades’ worth of outright lawbreaking.

When he goes on to say:
#40 . . . Practically speaking, this line-drawing affects the focus of the NSA’s activities (foreign v. domestic) the standard under which surveillances are conducted (probable cause v. reasonable suspicion, for example), the type of data NSA is permitted to collect and how, and the rules under which NSA retains and disseminates information about US persons.

and

#41. . . it is appropriate that we, as a country, readdress them. We need to get it right. We need to find the right balance between protecting our security and protecting our liberty. . . .

he NEVER mentions that the “we” that, “as a country” are going to address those items would be — Him, Gonzales and W. Back to an earlier thread, ***Alex, I’ll take American Civics and : When are three guys and black budget a country? for a buck fifty.

Vile.

Add in his “out of use, out of mind” response to the warrant clause issues:

http://www.editorandpublisher……1001883620

QUESTION: Jonathan Landay with Knight Ridder. I’d like to stay on the same issue, and that had to do with the standard by which you use to target your wiretaps. I’m no lawyer, but my understanding is that the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution specifies that you must have probable cause to be able to do a search that does not violate an American’s right against unlawful searches and seizures. Do you use —

GEN. HAYDEN: No, actually — the Fourth Amendment actually protects all of us against unreasonable search and seizure.

QUESTION: But the —

GEN. HAYDEN: That’s what it says.

QUESTION: But the measure is probable cause, I believe.

GEN. HAYDEN: The amendment says unreasonable search and seizure.

QUESTION: But does it not say probable —

GEN. HAYDEN: No. The amendment says —

QUESTION: The court standard, the legal standard —

GEN. HAYDEN: — unreasonable search and seizure.

QUESTION: The legal standard is probable cause, General. You used the terms just a few minutes ago, “We reasonably believe.” And a FISA court, my understanding is, would not give you a warrant if you went before them and say “we reasonably believe”; you have to go to the FISA court, or the attorney general has to go to the FISA court and say, “we have probable cause.”

And so what many people believe — and I’d like you to respond to this — is that what you’ve actually done is crafted a detour around the FISA court by creating a new standard of “reasonably believe” in place of probable cause because the FISA court will not give you a warrant based on reasonable belief, you have to show probable cause. Could you respond to that, please?

GEN. HAYDEN: Sure. I didn’t craft the authorization. I am responding to a lawful order. All right? The attorney general has averred to the lawfulness of the order.

Just to be very clear — and believe me, if there’s any amendment to the Constitution that employees of the National Security Agency are familiar with, it’s the Fourth. And it is a reasonableness standard in the Fourth Amendment. And so what you’ve raised to me — and I’m not a lawyer, and don’t want to become one — what you’ve raised to me is, in terms of quoting the Fourth Amendment, is an issue of the Constitution. The constitutional standard is “reasonable.” And we believe — I am convinced that we are lawful because what it is we’re doing is reasonable.

***

Here’s the Fourth Amendment: “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. “

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Then tack on his coverup of the AT&T situation with his “targeted” statements:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00754.html
Gen. Michael V. Hayden, the former NSA chief who is now deputy director of national intelligence, told reporters in Washington that the warrantless eavesdropping on calls and e-mails between the United States and overseas was “targeted and focused” and did not constitute a “driftnet” over U.S. cities.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
But wait a minute – Hayden’s successor to the illegal NSA programs is also on the public record, via a newspaper interview — and HE says, uh, gosh no, NSA never targets US citizens. nope, nu uh, never.

Current NSA Director Lt. Gen. Alexander August, 2005
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/ …nder17aug05.htm

“The new director noted that the agency had long fought the notion, rooted partly in real abuses of the 1970’s and partly in Hollywood exaggeration, that it routinely eavesdrops on Americans. Such fears resurfaced recently with the disclosure that John R. Bolton, as under secretary of state, had requested and received from the agency the identities of some Americans whose names turned up in eavesdropping. General Alexander said the names had been provided in accordance with strict rules that permit giving the identities only to officials with proper clearances who need them to interpret intelligence reports. Though Americans are not made targets of the N.S.A., he said, their names or voices inevitably crop up in the agency’s eavesdropping on foreigners who are.
“If anything, the problem is we probably overprotect,” sometimes passing up valuable intelligence for fear of violating Americans’ privacy, he said. “We hang back a little bit in favor of the liberties of our citizens.”

Hang back? Massive warrantless wiretap programs and roll the dice rooms built right into AT&T facilities are “holding back�

Does Stephen Colbert teach a “truthiness†class just for Generals? And btw – did Alexander’s statement explain why Bolton got the intercepts, but Jay Rockefellar – also with security clearances and part of that “Congressional oversight apparatus†couldn’t have them?

sorry so long – this is just an issue that makes me angry

Ilove this bar… I mean blog. Thanks for lift. Now back to work.

Of course he’s proud of catching even a stocked, farm-raised perch… his handlers won’t let him use sharp hooks or shiny, distracting lures when he fishes in his kiddy pool! Would that the rest of us could implement similar restrictions on his access to dangerous implements when he’s back in the Oval Office…

In a Twilight Zone of poetic justice, all of these wingers would find themselves in the nightmares they inflict on others.

Michelle Malkin would be a non-person in a secret Gulag; Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld would be in Abu Ghraib, on the receiving end of its-not-torture-because-we-say-so.

Eureka, AR – best line of the day: “imperch the president”

Bush just said,

Bush was asked by the German public television station ARD how the United States could restore its human-rights image following reports of prisoner abuse.

“Our top court must still rule on whether they should go before a civil or military court,” he said.

“They will get their day in court. One can’t say that of the people that they killed. They didn’t give these people the opportunity for a fair trial.“

He is a brainless moron. A horrible embarrassment for the United States. A pitiful excuse for a man.

Record for Nile Perch in Texas is 12 pounds. That must be the one Clusterfuck raised on pigshit and snagged.

My husband’s a big fisherman – will have to get him to talk about perch (pretty easy) then segue into the Bush story. Yes, he’s a Republican (we cancel our votes out every election day), but I knew that when I married him. :-)

Cleter from last thread, if you’re still around, thanks, you can mail it to me at opera99 at rochester dot rr dot com. BobbyG’s photoshop job was a stitch too.

I think it’s a good thing that GW recreates by fishing in a stocked pond. At least you can’t shoot anybody in the face like you can if you’re shooting stocked, clip-winged quail.

you’re right, rwcole, he does live on a hog farm

I think, in honor of his service to the nation, Mr. Bush should be given an early retirement, so that he can go home and fish in the lake he loves so much.

Just as soon as Mr. Cheney is forced out of office.

The Academy Award-nominated documentary Darwin’s Nightmare by Hubert Sauper (a French-Austrian-Belgian production, 2004) deals with the damage that has been caused by Nile Perch introduction.

(From the Wikipedia article on Nile Perch)

Sounds about right that clusterfuck would be raising “Darwin’s nightmare” in his own little pond.

Apparently the damned things destroy everything they touch – just like Clusterfuck!

Let’s try this again [Someone please delete JGabriel, 76? Thanks.]:

John Husband: †I’m not sure he uses a computer, or knows how to turn on one …â€

Jacob Weisberg, Slate, 5/7/04: “As governor of Texas, Bush would take a long break in the middle of his short workday for a run followed by a stretch of video golf or computer solitaire.”

So apparently Bush does know how to use a computer.

Or at least a mouse.

Not too sure about the keyboard though. As of yet we have no evidence…

The germans already hate GW Clusterfuck with a passion- this will only inflame them. Not looking forward to my trip to Germany this fall!

PAcifica: “I’ve been trying to think of things that Bush was successful at. The best I could come up with was swiftboating…”

Cutting taxes for the rich, lowered income for the rest.

Unfortunately, there’s really nothing funny in that one.

rwcole says:
May 7th, 2006 at 1:07 pm

Didn’t Karl say that he didn’t take the bait? (Speaking of big fish to catch…)

Paul: “I think, in honor of his service to the nation, Mr. Bush should be given an early retirement… Just as soon as Mr. Cheney is forced out of office.”

Just as soon as a replacement is *confirmed* for Cheney.

I don’t really want to get stuck with President Hastert either.

I kinda like President Clusterfuck- now that he’s harmless.

OK I’m still here laughing my ass off. Man I needed this. Thanls FDL Land

Clusterfuck to interpreter:

“How dya say BIG FUCKIN FISH in german?”

Re: the “impossible” Perch….

This from the Reuters article cited above

Because Bild could not immediately furnish English quotes, Bush’s comments were translated from the German.

In other words, Bush said something that was translated into German, and then re-tranlated back into English. There is a possibility that he named a different fish, and things got “lost in translation”

@ 96 rwcole

You’re looking at this wrong way – all you have to do is go to one of those T-Shirt printing places and get a batch made up with the Stars and Stripes and then underneath in which ever day-glo colour you think nice the following slogan:

Trust me I have G.W. Clusterfuck even more than you do.

and all will be well…….

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You have to imagine millions of germans watching this interview and scratching their heads.

“Fish- did he say FISH?–is that a metaphore for something profound?”

Aaaaaaaaargh :

“I hate …….”

I hate this new keyboard almost as much as …….

I have a long overblown NSA comment awaiting review, but Gitmo hits a whole nuther set of buttons for me.

So – if he feels like anyone who kills anyone in battle (like the Taliban forces that were *actually* captured on the battlefield – as opposed to bought off a guy named Abdullah) should be subject to death without trial – is that what he thinks should happen to OUR soldiers wherever they fight? What – if some WWII vet who killed in the battlefield is travelling through Germany or Japan, it’s ok for those countries to just snarf them up secretly and try and kill them without following any rules of law within that country or the conventions and treaties affecting countries?

Or if he means they were acting as criminals and plotting criminal activities – why are we NOT treating them like criminals and are instead breaking all our own laws left and right as if we are more scared of the law than of the terrorists?

And folks like the Chinese dissidents – the children we took, the UK resident detainees who refused to spy for the UK and were shipped to GITMO, uh — it’s just too depressing, isnt it?

Why our own government and Department of Justice cowers so from the law just amazes me. Having set the disaster in motion, though, you can see how it self perpetuates. It’s a runaway on a downhill slide and the same people who were willing start it off are scared stiff to try to stand up and stop it now – the consequences to bad legal and moral choices just snowball.

It was nice to see several of the Defense Counsel appointed for GITMO detainees, even if they don’t have the best of clients, dig in and make life as miserable as they could for the “ain’t no rules here” crowd. The guy who skewered the tribunal and Rumsfeld on the President’s own words (something like: the President has ORDERED “full and fair trials”, and it’s not my client’s fault that Rumsfeld’s rules for this proceeding violate that order)*g*

For someone to finally call the parsing out loud and publically, and have it be – not DOJ, not MSM – but military counsel with an unsavory job and client, a guy who would probably much prefer to be prosecuting than defending – - you have to have some respect for those guys.

My favorite moment is “fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, I won’t get fooled again.” Man, I loved the Who! Especially when I was doing acid.

hullabaloo’s tristero on the fish story http://digbysblog.blogspot.com…..1390851346

Maybe in about ten years we can all sit in a bar at the Oregon Coast sharing our favorite moments from the Clusterfuck presidency over good Oregon wine and ale.

OT, but just gotta say, C’MON FITZ!!!!! This week maybe?

Someone was saying here a couple days ago that the intelligence community was abuzz with speculation about Fitz’ indictment package – talking about indictments for not only Rove but Armitage and Bob Woodward.

I guess what he may be talking about for Armitage is the actual outing of Valerie Plame – to Woodward? And then what would Woodward be indicted for? Obstruction of justice for not coming forward with what he had been told? Seems like there are many many others in the WHIG and elsewhere in the WH that are much more culpable. I dunno – I guess I just don’t get it.

But I sure will breath a lot easier about the midterms and about the future of this country with Rove under indictment…

And what’s with the MSM (This Week) putting accused criminals like Tom DeLay on national television, giving them a national stage, to point fingers at their political enemies for ethics problems? Wha???? That was unbelievable!

Paul Lukasiak: “Bush said something that was translated into German, and then re-tranlated back into English. There is a possibility that he named a different fish, and things got ‘lost in translation’”

And we should give George the benefit of the doubt… why again?

“One last thing: A long time ago, when the country was led by a qualified and patriotic American, Candidate George W. Bush memorably said, “I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.” “

Just saw the article about Bush saying he saw into Angel Merkel’s soul.

Does Laura know?

I mean, I’d really be concerned if I were her.

Between Merkel and Putin, it’s not gonna be long before George becomes known as: George W. Bush, Bi-sexual Soul Seer.

He’s a soul sniffer- that Mr. Bush–or maybe it’s sole sniffer–we never see him spell it out-

I think that’s it- he gets insight into people by smelling their feet- and seeing how they get along with fish.

Has GW Clusterfuck ALWAYS been concerned about social relationships between men and fish?

Perhaps he’s a kind of spiritual genius?

Howard Dean, today:

“The Republicans are not credible anymore as a governmental force…”

Now, that’s what I call a Talking Point!

GW Clusterfuck- represents the HUMAN race to FISH- and vice versa.

rwcole #117 – He’s a filet of sole sniffer

So many moments to be proud of…Such as bettering international relations, encouraging the love of nature, or restoring pride to a great nation…
Indeed, the question should be, ““How did one man do so much in so little time?”

;>)

GW Clusterfuck says that fishin and politics are about the same.

Ya gotta put somethin on the hook that RESEMBLES somethin they like- then when they bite- ya reel em on in. Caught millions that way. Hold the world record fer voters caught on a articial tax cut.

the specific German word for “perch” is ‘der Flussbarsch’. The word Barsh could refer to bass, perch or pike. Maybe the Preznit actually used the word “bass” ? Bass are usually more braggable…

The last part of the article seems strange: “Because Bild could not immediately furnish English quotes, Bush’s comments were translated from the German. The paper said the White House planned to release an authorised English version of the interview on Monday.”
Which stupid thing that he said are they preparing to blame on the German’s losing something in translation?

w. is one of those soul eaters– the dementors in Harry Potter.

From my perch, he appears to be lacking a soul.

Has it been confirmed that he actually used a hook and line to catch the fish, instead of say…firecrackers?

Just popped in from doing laundry to see that the President caught a big perch! From years of catching perch in Wisconsin, I can’t believe it. Sure it wasn’t a carp, and Laura told him, “What a big perch you have, George?” Or maybe she meant something else. Or maybe “carp” was lost in translation, kinda like this whole freakin country.

jdw No. 76 “DNR confirmed the perch’s size as 3 pounds, 5 ounces”

Q. Is it customary, in the fisherman’s world, to refer to record-setting fish in pounds and ounces, like a newborn baby human? If so, then why did Bush refer to it as a “7.5 pound” fish? Another sign of stupidity, or is he just lying?

He may have used a hooker and done a line.

This whole thread is hysterical!

Don’t need a line fer a hooker.

As she said in BEAUTIFUL woman- “You don’t need to seduce me- I’m a sure thing”

OT: Laura Rozen at Warandpiece has insider info on the mysterious reasons for Goss’s going : http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/004109.html

It was the hookers !

new thread – new book

Good one Angie! And nice to see you Dana. Have to go start dinner but I sure am glad I dropped by!

Let’s not forget what an insult it was to the German reporter to take a perfectly standard question and return it with a perfectly stupid and dismissive answer. This is the so-called “leader of the free world”. What a hairball.

Hey, thanks Dru for the inspiration– yer a regular muse!

Just read a great quote in an article at Yahoo entitled “Arizona Cowboys Call for Immigration Compromise”

“I’m conservative right down to the bone,” he says, “but I think that sometimes we have to do the right thing.”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..compromise

” Is it customary, in the fisherman’s world, to refer to record-setting fish in pounds and ounces, like a newborn baby human? If so, then why did Bush refer to it as a “7.5 pound†fish? Another sign of stupidity, or is he just lying?”

yes…a fisherman loves to brag, so they’ll say if a fish was 7 lbs, 12.225 oz if necessary…my guess is he used a portable scale to get the weight, which isn’t the most accurate thing, and then rounded up to 7.5 lbs.

my guess is also that it wasn’t a perch, because that’s such a blatent lie i don’t think even he thinks he can get away with it…

on second thught…

oh my, everhopeful– maybe the WH can make that the next banner to fly over w’s head as he resigns in disgrace.

There’s a thread over at Democratic Underground discussing the mysterious record-breaking seven and a half pound “perch.”

Many there are mentioning translating difficulties, too, and the fact that there are some species of fish called “perch” which are actually in the bass family, and to make things worse, some species of bass which are actually in the “perch” family. Well.

Not being an ichthyologist, if that’s the right term, I’ll refrain from an opinion until the WH releases its English version of the interview, which is supposed to happen early this week.

Doesn’t matter. I like this story for its utility as metaphor:

Isn’t it metaphorically true that EVERYTHING Bush says amounts to a “fish story”?

And a quick msg for Mary:

Please, please do not apologize for the length of your messages. People can scroll past if they (ignorantly, IMO) don’t want to learn from the excellent information you impart.

I for one am very, very grateful for all I learn from your postings. Your passion is inspiring, too. It is a GOOD thing that these issues of Guantanamo, wiretapping, and the shredding of the Constitution and our legal foundations as a nation are matters of obsession for you.

We need folks like you!

The worst moment?

“Gettin’ my nuts pinched by my 7.5 pound codpiece.”

Just a thought –

Could this ge the only time in his presidency that W. showed up Poppy to his face?

That might explain a lot…

Aw c’mon, the Chimp is just baiting us like most untreated, dry drunks do when there’s a reactive, captive audience of hostages.

Just think, two and three quarter years to go!

everhopeful (#138):
“yeah, i read that too”. howard dean ought to go down there (if he hasn’t already) and chat those people up. he’d probably come up with some worthwhile ammo to use for the cause.

Gee, and I thought it was the Trifecta!

He’s lying. Perch don’t grow that big.
http://haveskunk.blogspot.com/…..orons.html

CBS reports that British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw was fired because of angry phone calls from King Fisher. Apparently Chimpy was pissed because Straw said that using nukes on Iran was “nuts”

here’s the link:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories…..6108.shtml

Worse yet, it was a freakin’ PERCH

The Fisher King was a great movie… The King Fisher, horrible in every way.

The man is a fucktard.

Just in case this hasn’t been posted yet, the presidents Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board makes another appearance. (First reported by TPM Muckraker):

Behind the Goss toss
http://www.nydailynews.com/fro…..1086c.html

Of your two choices, I pick all three:

(1) He really is that much of a doofus, but
(2) he’s too dumb to know that he is that much of a doofus, so
(3) he pretends to be that much of a doofus.

Sadly, that is my favorite moment as well. Everything else in the Bush Presidency has been a disaster.

Wake me when it’s over. Fishing? Really? Jesus.

I know everyone’s gone on to the next thread and then the next, but I have to note that this is another feeble Bush attempt to play “I’m just an average Joe, heh, heh.”

Except the average Joe doesn’t have his own lake, specially stocked with oversized fish. Bushie probably IS extemely proud of this accomplishment, which is sad on so many levels.

From every Google image I’ve looked at, that looks like a striped bass … and almost all the perch images I looked at have stripes that run vertically on the fish, not longitudinally. But I’m not a fisherman, just looking at photgraphs on Google.

bush “presidency”
a mindnumbing disgrace!
Peace,

He neglected to mention that the 7.5 “perch” had three eyes (just like the one Mr. Burns had inSpringfield) due to ecological contamination in that there part of Texas.

Or maybe he confused it with the singing one on the wall down at the ranch!

That’s a striped bass in your photo, not a perch – you should change it.

“Perch” in Texas are what are referred to as “sunfish” in the North–the most widespread example being the bluegill. But they don;t get that big, not even in Texas. As others have pointed out, he is pictured holding a striped bass. What he caught in his lake was probably a largemouth bass.

…or he could be lying….

Though no doubt this was the highpoint of his presidency….

Here I went, trudging dutifully thru all the entries to see if anyone else noticed…
FINALLY, Eureka! # 161, Bravo Jim58!
I agree. It’s a striped bass in the photo, not a perch. So he probably snared the thing in ME. Which makes me wonder if it’s even big enough to be a legal “keeper” — looks pretty wimpy from here.
And who cares anyway. Someone obviously did a nice job on the superimposing the foreground on New Orleans’ misery. Wrong fish but, sadly, very meaningful story-picture.

well he may be able to catch a fish, but that is about all (and as I remember form my childhood, perch are not that wily a fish, actually they are kind of voracious and so dumb.)

He can’t catch terrorists.
He can’t catch inept and corrupt politicos ripping off the taxpayers.
He can’t catch the people who leak scandalous material to the press.
He can’t catch up to the rest of the world in trying to build peaceful diplomacy rather than starting needless wars.
He can’t catch on to the idea or the concept of climate change/global warming.
He can’t catch the fact that most americans hate his stinking guts.
Maybe he can catch a cold, or a perch, but that seems about it.

Perch, eh? That’s surprising. I figured him for a crappie President.

To be fair to all concerned .. and I don’t know if this true, but if so explains somewhat. Found in comments on Digby’s blog:

“Being a German I only want to mention that this could be a translation error.
The tabloid “Bild” in its interview writes “Barsch”.
Now a direct online translation gives me “perch” in English. But if I translate “bass” into German, it describes several specific “Barsch” types too. Like “striped bass” = “Felsenbarsch” for example.”

Nile perch? Is that true?

Perfect for some doofus who think’s denial is a river in Egypt. My brother used to serve Nile Perch in a restaurant in Maui – ‘ third world food for first world people ‘ he told me once.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the Presidenterator’s best catch ever was Conrad Bream.

In tribute to Mr. Bush, I have compiled a video of all the things he might have missed while fishing. Enjoy!

Oh, but no mention is made of what Bush caught in his lake after landing the perch.

He cast his fishing line again, waited a few minutes…and hooked onto a load of the missing Iraqi WMD.

Once that was hauled ashore, Bush cast his line again…and hooked onto Usama bin Laden, who’d been hiding out in Bush’s lake all this time.

Once bin Laden was landed, then Bush cast his line another time…and hooked onto Jimmy Hoffa. So that’s where Hoffa disappeared to so many years ago.

Fish rots from the head – received wisdom? don’t know but sounds about right

angie, re #125, Buddhists don’t think fish have souls so they can eat them – you see fish never turned up to pay respect – its a Tibetan Buddhist legend.

http://www.issg.org/database/s……asp?si=89

Angler-in-Chief.

I fish a good amount and have to say that specimen has always looked more like a striped bass than a perch to me. While stripers live in salt water, they spawn in rivers, so it’s possible that Bush’s lake is stocked with small ones. Point is, the legal minimum for keeping a striped bass is 28 inches, at least in and around Montauk, NY, a prime spot for fishing for striped bass. So even if Bush’s proudest moment wasn’t as illegal as so much else he’s “accomplished,” he’d have been chased out of Camp Hero and other hot spots on the East End of Long Island as fast as you can say, “fish on.” He looks to this Montauk surfcaster like an even bigger googen (that’s Montauk for complete incompetent) than he is a fake rancher.

Personally I think it is because all of his “accomplishments” turned to shit!

see: Iraq, Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind and all the rest.

He sucks as president.