George Stephanopolous just announced on ABC’s This Week that Gen. Michael Hayden will definitely be named President Bush’s nominee to succeed Porter Goss as the DCI for the CIA. Interviewing Sen. Dianne Feinstein and Sen. Saxby Chambliss, both Senators expressed reservations about a military officer heading up the CIA — since it is a civilian intel agency.
There is a pending bill in the Senate that would require the DCI to be a civilian — but that bill has not yet passed, and is thus not a legal requirement at this point.
We’ve blogged on Gen. Hayden over the last coupla days here, here and here. Should make for some very interesting confirmation hearings — especially if they get into the illegal NSA domestic spying. I’m told that many in the NSA are livid about the program that has been going on — because it’s been severely limited to a small number of folks within the NSA who would go along with the President’s request, but the entire agency has been tarred by their actions. Should be a VERY interesting confirmation process indeed if they go into that aspect.
UPDATE: Bloomberg has more, including the fact that Rep. Hoekstra, chair of the House Intel Committee opposes Hayden being nominated. The WaPo has more as well.
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EPU’d zone!
Great. Gen. “I-wouldn’t-know-the-4th-Amendment-if-it-jumped-up-and-bit-me-in-the-butt” Hayden as DCI. Perfect.
Colbert!
Does anyone else think Hayden has a scary head?
I’m curious why they don’t promote from within? Are the skills – or core competencies – of generaldom tranfserrable to those needed to head an intelligence agency?
Not that the administration cares, but it will be interesting to see more international reaction to this move.
just occured to me – he looks like “red” from that 70’s show.
Walsingham!!!
Fitzy aussi!
chip — I think the promotion from within action doesn’t fit with their “agency in dire need of reform” meme. You can’t blame the CIA for all your problems and promote one of their own to run the place at the same time. Plus, to be honest, Goss has run off a lot of the best and brightest with his loyalty pledge crap — at least those at the high levels to be able to take over that high-level managerial need that the CIA has for the person at the helm.
Christy – that’s a good point. Is it possible for Congress to reject this nominee, or is that now just a formality?
OT – Somebody needs to illustrate a children’s book called “The Decider and the Fish”
http://today.reuters.co.uk/new…..ived=False
Apparently chimpy’s best moment as president was catching a fish – I think many here will agree with that. Also, 9/11 was his worst moment. Here’s what he said about that moment:
“In such a situation it takes a while before one understands what is happening. I would say that this was the hardest moment, once I had the real picture before my eyes.”
Hence the need for the children’s book. Chimpy needs pictures to understand things – words are so confusing.
I thought you meant TOM Hayden.
Oh, well. Nevermind.
Probable cause? We don’t need no stinking probable cause.
-Potato Head Hayden
” Should be a VERY interesting confirmation process indeed if they go into that aspect.”
like i laughingly said yesterday, the democrats ain’t gonna go there, so don’t get yer hopes up.
they don’t wanna appear ‘weak on terra’ by questioning domestic spying.
Speaking of bigheads, Russert is grilling Pelosi like she is Ted Bundy.
-GSD
Mwahahahahahaha. Dean on This Week: “I’m not going to get into a debate on values with Tom DeLay.†HAHAHA
He looks like Elmer Fudd.
And incase anyone is curious about the actual text of the 4th amendment:
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
motherlowman #5
i agree, he looks like Jamie Hyneman from The Mythbusters’ evil shaven twin.
http://wolfblog.net/images/jamieheadshot.jpg
Whoop. After the pathetic display of the MSM, it is nice to see someone doing some reporting.
Another Goss aide involved in Hookergate.
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/000578.php
Think I’ll make a donation to Josh.
Hoekstra, chair of the House Intell Cmte, just said on TV that Hayden would be a terrible choice…
Really, I’m not a looksist – but where DO they find ALL these scary-looking people? Is there some Hollywood subsidiary of Hallibuton, Creepshow Casting, or what?
We need to hang that 4th Amendment business around his neck.
Uh, Chucklenuts’ greatest moment was catching a fish in his own stocked pond? OK, everyone who said he wasn’t really that stupid, take a step back.
Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee opposes Hayden’s nomination!
Hoekstra
What would make anyone, anywhere, think that Bushco is even interested at all in looking ofr a “best and brightest”, or for someone capable of the job ?
It’s who can they sell that will best implement what they tell that person to …
Wilson beat me to it.
Will the dems go after this guy hard in confirmation hearings? This is a dream come true in the run up to the elections…
Meaning the dems will TOTALLY blow it and give the guy a pass because the consultants want them to look tough on terror.
Sharkbabe,
I think you’re onto something. I know looks shouldn’t be that important, but all of these guys (includes Matalin, Condi, etc.) just look “off”. Like the machine that churns them out is miscalibrated.
With a confirmation hearing Lex Luthor Hayden has be put under oath – Spector/Repugs can’t get around that this time
Senate Intelligence Committee
REPUBLICANS
Pat Roberts, Kansas. Chairman
Orrin G. Hatch, Utah
Mike Dewine, Ohio
Christopher S. Bond, Missouri
Trent Lott, Mississippi
Olympia J. Snowe, Maine
Chuck Hagel, Nebraska
Saxby Chambliss, Georgia
DEMOCRATS
John D. Rockefeller IV, West Virginia, Vice Chairman
Carl Levin, Michigan
Dianne Feinstein, California
Ron Wyden, Oregon
Evan Bayh, Indiana
Barbara A. Mikulski, Maryland
Russell D. Feingold, Wisconsin
So who’s gonna block that kick? Hagel? Snowe? Dewine? And is there any chance Bayh’s gonna be “off-side”.
He didn’t even do the usual Bushco “yeah we know what Constitution sez, and terra terra terra so it doesn’t apply” – he didn’t even know what 4th amd said, and sat there arguing his stone ignorance.
Christy – saw your response below, and wanted to respond.
I think what she did only served to reinforce the image of the democrats as all over the place and totally undercut what could have been a major outreach to people alienated from political engagement. When Murtha traveled the country in the weeks afterward, there were news reports of overflowing meeting halls filled with people desperate for signs of leadership. Instead she marginalized him and effectively killed that momentum.
West of East at 30 — My money would be on Levin and Feingold as taking the lead on these questions. Both have been excellent in past hearings, and I’d expect them to do the same here.
apropos Evan Bayh being “off-side” : it all depends on what the polls say and whether it will help him become President of the United States…Evan has all the backbone and balls of an amoeba
motherlowman -
now that you mention it, he does have a scary lookin’ head…
scary lookin’ head…
scary acting Hayden…
[this free association was brought to you from the unconscious. Happy Freud’s 150 Bday…well, yesterday]
On a more practical note, the NPR spin on Hayden this minute is (through choice of interviewee clip) “wrong person, wrong place, long time.”
If National Pentagon Radio is dissing General Potatohead already, maybe the Beltway does encircle a spine or two….
re hayden — the chatterbox consensus at this point is that, yes, a couple of dems will moan and groan, but hayden will be confirmed as fat tim said in comments to mrs dan senor this a.m.
This guy has got to be a recess appointment, right? No way the bushies/r’s are going to allow open hearings on this guy. What’s the catch?
Saxby Chambliss is uncomfortable with General Hayden taking over a civilian agency, even if Hayden resigns from the A.F.
motherlowman-
What’s on the inside can’t help but show on the outside.
Doesn’t Bush just look stupid?
Doesn’t Cheney just look evil?
Doesn’t Fitz just look serious and tough?
Maybe Bush will be inspired by Hugo Chavez and look to extend his presidency by a FEW years.
Well, I liked him a lot better when he was poking fun of Bush, not looking to become Presidente’ for Life. Bad move Hugo.
http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Wo…..8-sun.html
-GSD
Duke Cunningham was asked what his favorite moment was, he said it was when he was given a case of crabs from an Alaskan lobbyist.
ohdave #27
Maybe this means the Dems will discover their backbones.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01336.html
Leopolds latest is up at http://www.truthout.org
Rove is going down with hopefully Obstruction charges as well as what Libby got.
Hahaha, just when I think things can’t possibly get any friggin better.
I’m heading down to the store to get some popcorn.
Also, re: Treasongate. Lushkin is a witness in the case and it looks like Abu Gonzales should be charged with Obstruction as well.
*ilson,
Did anyone ask Hoekstra about the Pincus article – re: DOD Intel Contractors ?
and, has your Senator Lugar made any statements about Cheney’s, um, statements abouyt Russia this week ?
twolf1, thanks for the hummer pics last thread – were those from Ramsey Canyon ? Cave Creek ? or that wonderful lodge where folks go to see trogons ?
An other Harriet Myers moment perhaps?
motherlowman @ 28
I think you’re onto something. I know looks shouldn’t be that important, but all of these guys (includes Matalin, Condi, etc.) just look “offâ€. Like the machine that churns them out is miscalibrated.
LOL!!
that’s the funniest thing i’ve heard all weekend — most of which i spent lurking here!
darms says: “What’s the catch?”
May 7th, 2006 at 8:09 am
Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution – looking at paragraph 3, we see this:
I heard a tidbit on MTP, I believe, but didn’t catch it all or the context. I believe I heard that with Hayden heading the CIA agency, that all the major agencies will be led by MILITARY heads. Is this true? Has it happened before in history?
Almost fell on the floor when Dianne Feinstein talked on FNS about how qualified and capable Hayden was…and she’s been briefed on the NSA program! To be fair, she did go on to temper her judgment, but not enough for my taste. Surprisingly, Chabliss was pretty lukewarm on Hayden, which seems to be more the case than not with most of the GOP opinions I have heard so far. Wonder why that is?
I was really curious about the DeLay/Dean “face-off,” but it was hardly that. I can’t even figure out why Stephanopolous would have someone with so little credibility – DeLay – on in the first place. I mean, could there be more than 27 people who actually believe what comes out of his mouth? Dean had a couple good comebacks – the one Christy mentioned was the best – the one where he said it was ridiculous that Dems were talking seniors out of Medicare drug plan was great, since he went on to bring his own mother into it and said “she needs this program.”
Russert was like a man on a mission with Pelosi; too bad he couldn’t be that aggressive with the party in power. Pelosi isn’t smooth, and she often has trouble finding her place or finding the right words, but she hangs in there and makes her points. Russert tried to get her on a couple Dems with ethics problems, and she was quick to point out that she was the one who asked for the ethics investigation on Jefferson, something she said no Repiblican would ever or has ever asked for with respect to one of their own. Russert once again raised the Harry Reid/Jack Abramoff “connection,” and never really let Pelosi address it. I Imagine there were many people screaming at their TVs just like I was at that point.
Katrina vandenHeuvel was great in the ABC roundtable; she is one of the most articulate liberals we have, and I would love to see more of her on these shows. She strongly disagreed with Martha Raddatz on the issue of whether most Americans cared about warrantless wiretapping. Raddatz seems to think we’re stupid enough to believe that if you call something a “terrorist surveillance program” that we will just roll over and go along quietly. Read the blogs, Martha!
37 -
I’m waiting for the recess “can’t let national security wait for congressional vacations” appointment some Friday this silly season – like right before Memorial Day or Indepedence Day.
Curious — that would be correct — every major intel agency would be headed by military personnel. 80% of the intel resources are military at this point, according to what Martha Raddatz said on This Week this morning. I’m not certain if that has ever happened in history.
when doing some googling on Goss’s #2 guy, I found a tidbit – When Patsy Roberts committee was having Phase I hearings, it was proposed that CIA top folks not be military, but allowed Calland (Navy, #2) to remain until retired or replaced by Bush – iow, they didn’t do anything at the time to codify civilians only
and jeebus, did I just hear Timmeh liken McKinney and Kennedy to ‘ethics lapses ?!?!?
Courtesy of jonathan chait/latimes:
Don’t let the left defeat Lieberman
The last thing the Democratic cause needs is martyrdom for the sanctimonious senator from Connecticut.
May 7, 2006
In the end, though, I can’t quite root for Lieberman to lose his primary. What’s holding me back is that the anti-Lieberman campaign has come to stand for much more than Lieberman’s sins. It’s a test of strength for the new breed of left-wing activists who are flexing their muscles within the party. These are exactly the sorts of fanatics who tore the party apart in the late 1960s and early 1970s. They think in simple slogans and refuse to tolerate any ideological dissent. Moreover, since their anti-Lieberman jihad is seen as stemming from his pro-war stance, the practical effect of toppling Lieberman would be to intimidate other hawkish Democrats and encourage more primary challengers against them.
http://www.latimes.com/news/op…..commentary
curious in central Texas says:
May 7th, 2006 at 8:22 am
How soon will a Meet the Press transcript appear online?
It is always disturbing when military men take up positions in the civilian part of government. It isn’t because they are not loyal, patriotic people who have given their lives to duty and the protection of the country. For that, we should say,”thanks,” as it is a hard thing to keep to your duty 24 hours a day, 365 days of the year, year after year.
What makes too much influence by military minds in the operation of a civilian agency disturbing is the fact that, while Gen Hayden, for instance, might be an excellent organizational person, intellectually, in order to be so, he may very well be too rigid in the atmosphere of a place like the CIA which requires an understanding of many kinds of thinking:gathering of facts vs. the intuitive types who see the bigger picture. Both kinds of mental activity are needed at that venue, and the military tends towards the worship of structure over open exchange of ideas.
The CIA has been blamed for the poor intelligence leading to the war with Iraq. But, let us not forget Plame, and her people who were presenting opposing facts against going to war. Hayden, to be effective, has to be able to allow all points of view and information to flow freely and without reprisal for being against administration desires. He has to be above partisanship.
Anne at 50 — My understanding is that there is a split in the Rumsfeld/neocon camp and the Negroponte/intel-not-controlled-by-DoD camp — and that there is a sense that, perhaps, Hayden fits into the Negroponte camp. Which is odd, considering the public fronting that Cheney backs him. This is all very, very convoluted and Machiavellian, and I’m having a lot of difficulty getting any clear cut anything from sources that usually have a bit of insight. I’m hoping maybe Larry Johnson and others can get some scoop on this, because I’m coming up with a lot of conflicting stuff at the moment.
How soon will a Meet the Press transcript appear online?
it’s usually up by early afternoon.
Should have known – from TNH: (somebody was already on this).
Code Title 10, Subtitle A, Part II, Ch. 49:
§ 973 Duties: officers on active duty; performance of civil functions restricted
(a) No officer of an armed force on active duty may accept employment if that employment requires him to be separated from his organization, branch, or unit, or interferes with the performance of his military duties.
(2)
(A) Except as otherwise authorized by law, an officer to whom this subsection applies may not hold, or exercise the functions of, a civil office in the Government of the United States—
(i) that is an elective office;
(ii) that requires an appointment by the President by and with the advice and consent of the Senate; or
(iii) that is a position in the Executive Schedule under sections 5312 through 5317 of title 5.
So under Sec.973(2)(A)(ii), it sures looks to me as if Hayden cannot be appointed as DCI without resigning his commission.
I’m probably missing something.
Still, an appointment of Hayden, whether he’s wearing his uniform or not, smells real bad. Not that DoD is in the intelligence gathering business or anything.
OfT my OfT – Dean’s doing great on This Week.
It’s nice to see someone catch that whole part about him being active-duty military. Since that makes him fall under the Secretary of Defense, wouldn’t that therefore make the CIA a wing of the Department of Defense?!
This is something that needs to be majorly trumpeted. And I think that a LOT of the military would not support having the CIA become even more associated with them (after all, Abu Ghraib didn’t go over too well, and remember CIAs fingerprints all over that crime scene…).
Uh… didn’t I see this “Hayden” guy holding a red hot poker up to Karen Allen’s face in Raiders of the Lost Ark?
I don’t know when MTP transcripts are published. Christy responded above —
motherlowman #28
maybe these are all some sort of cut-rate Disney animatronic rejects imperfectly approximating human beings
As to the looks so many neo cons wear for the rest of us, I think one can’t help but put forth on his face the expression of his inner works.
Cheney appears to sneer because he sneers at most anyone other than himself. GW’s close set eyes reflect his very narrow view of the world. Same goes for William Krystol though he, to me, seems more to be squinting so that his view remains small. Rove appears piggish because, regardless of the size of his body, his face still gets fat off disregarding humanity as his collective brother.
All of them need a whoppin’ dose of therapy to soften those harsh features. I could be projecting too, but at least I have a thin face, big eyes, and I rarely sneer. LOL
The scary part is not Hayden — although he is plenty scary — but that BushCo responds to a HookerGate resignation with a sharp poke in the eye.
“Make us look bad by exposing our corruption? Well, take THIS!!!” At a time when a little conciliation would go a long way, they do exactly the opposite. That is very creepy.
Just finished the LA Times. Great story about a 71 year old woman who has been living in her car for 7 years. Not exactly the retirement she was hoping for. She gets $480 per month in social security.
Her daughter was contacted for the story and said “You know I worry about her sleeping in that car”.
The woman shares the car with her little dog. Once a week she treats herself to a night at the motel six where she can shower. Every morning she drives her Dodge Neon to a spot where she can watch the sun come up near the ocean- and buys a cup of coffee at senior prices.
She can’t afford the deductible on her Medicare- so she just doesn’t go to the doctor. She recently got a part time job as a receptionist- but still doesn’t have nearly enough for an apartment.
Life in Clusterfuck’s america. He should be required to spend one night out of every three in a Neon.
Hayden has a grim set to his eyes and mouth. While his face is rather doughy, his eyes and mouth tell his story.
Please, let’s find another guy!
Clem @61,
So that’s where I’ve seen him!
Ok…I’ve just gotta chime in on Pelosi on Timmeh’s show.
If you can’t answer a question with a yes or no answer, then you are a worm and a crafty BS’ing politican to 95% of America. There was no reason for her not to say that rolling back the tax cuts for the wealthy would be a good thing.
…and folks, if Timmeh wasn’t specifically told to make sure he got some dirt on Peolsi and the Dems today then hell has frozen over.
Sounds like the spinners are makin themselves dizzy on the issue of which “camp” the new cia director is a part of. Hope they fuckin puke!
Bush doesn’t care what anyone thinks, nor does he feel he needs to abide by any laws. I won’t be surprised if he does a recess appointment on Hayden to avoid hearings. The sycophantic Congress will do nothing except maybe whine a little bit. Bush has set the precedent with the three FEC positions he appointed against the will of Congress, as well as Bolton as UN ambassador.
At this point Bush is a rogue tinpot dictator. He is going to need to be forcibly stopped. The democrats better take the House this year, because then they can control spending, run some serious investigations and yes, even file articles of impeachment.
“Moreover, since their anti-Lieberman jihad is seen as stemming from his pro-war stance, the practical effect of toppling Lieberman would be to intimidate other hawkish Democrats and encourage more primary challengers against them.”
Er… yeah? Is this guy trying to make a point, or is he just really bad at covering his right-wing tendencies with faux concern for Democratic fortunes?
Yes, toppling Lieberman would possibly intimidate other Vichy Democrats… isn’t that the whole idea? Or does this columnist really want to continue with the de facto one-party system that we’ve currently got?
Every time I hear or read John Negroponte’s name, I think of what he accomplised during his tenure as ambassador to Honduras in the early 80’s.
He supervised the CIA while they trained ‘Contra’ death squads to undermine the communist Sandanista government in neighboring El Salvador. The training occurred on American soil; the bases for the Contras were often in Honduras. The death squads kidnapped nuns, tortured them, and threw them of helicopters. Negroponte is directly responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people. Do you remember the Iran/Contra scandal? Do you remember Negroponte’s role?
I was a teenager during those years, and I went to a catholic church with a congregation made primarily of college students and their families. The priest there used to focus much attention on the plight of the Salvadoran people, and he left no doubts in my mind that their suffering was largely due to the actions of the American government (thank you, Ronnie, for all your hard work).anyhow. Father Grothwell used to talk a lot about the “School of the Americas” in Georgia, which is where the leaders of these Death Squads were trained… Of course it’s still active at Fort Benning, and imagine my surprise when I saw wahat techniques were taught there:
The rabbit hole is deep, my friends… and all of these bastards already have blood on their hands.
Who’s hot: Katrina van den H, Stephanie Miller, Russ F, Joe & Valerie, Conason, Redd, Jane, Pach, and all of us.
Who’s not: every stinkin gotta-buy-an-escort-to-get-some repuke.
Since that makes him fall under the Secretary of Defense, wouldn’t that therefore make the CIA a wing of the Department of Defense?!
I’ts been an article of neo-Cheney-con faith that all intel belings under the Pentagon. The original plans for ‘post 9/11′ (i.e Cheney and Rumsfeld have been dreaming abouth it since 1976) reorganization of intel was to have Stephen Cambrone run the whole thing out of the Pentagon’s E-ring.
THe creation of Negroponte’s job was a compromise — centralize it all, yeah, but not under DoD.
Oh…regarding Goss and Hayden, I think it comes down to one simple question:
In what way do these moves increase the likelihood of a Republican victory in 06 and beyond?
Put every piece of information into that frame and something will become clear…I don’t know what, but it’s always the politics. Start there.
OT
Bush’s best moment in office? Reeling in big perch
Sun May 7, 2006 11:01 AM BST
BERLIN (Reuters) – U.S. President George W. Bush told a German newspaper his best moment in more than five years in office was catching a big perch in his own lake.
“You know, I’ve experienced many great moments and it’s hard to name the best,” Bush told weekly Bild am Sonntag when asked about his high point since becoming president in January 2001.
“I would say the best moment of all was when I caught a 7.5 pound (3.402 kilos) perch in my lake,” he told the newspaper in an interview published on Sunday.
Bush said the worst moment was September 11 when hijacked planes crashed into the World Trade Centre in New York and the Pentagon in Washington.
“In such a situation it takes a while before one understands what is happening,” Bush said. “I would say that this was the hardest moment, once I had the real picture before my eyes.”
Because Bild could not immediately furnish English quotes, Bush’s comments were translated from the German. The paper said the White House planned to release an authorised English version of the interview on Monday.
jayt says:
May 7th, 2006 at 8:28 am
Which TNH post is that on, please? Someone else mentioned this United States Code section on a prior FDL thread. Thank you very much for the reminder about it.
Zergle—
I totally agree with that. And besides, if she would fucking bother to get informed, the majority of Americans understand that a tax increase is going to be necessary to climb out of this fiscal catastrophe; they increasingly support federal health insurance; and most importantly are increasingly in favor of impeachment. The cowardice to make a clear, strong statement is beyond infuriating at this point. People are desperate for leadership – why the fuck doesn’t she understand this.
and my take on russert: somebody’s got photos.
Good morning–
I really dislike Patsy Roberts.
motherlowman # 23–
but, but it was a 7.5 lb PERCH.
Count on the foreign press regaling themselves on this juicy tidbit– the BBC picked up on it so the whole world now officially know the truth– Commander Codpiece loves his perch. sheesh.
>>>>>
Of the 9/11 attacks, he said: “In such a situation it takes a while before one understands what is happening.
“I would say that this was the hardest moment, once I had the real picture before my eyes.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4982338.stm
The LATimes today also has an article about how well Medicare part D is doing (they can’t have talked to many non-government people to get that line), and an opinion piece saying that we need more good war movies to inspire people to support this justified war (and what planet is that writer from?). Straight-up propaganda. And they’re also buying the spun verion of Goss’s resignation.
Motherlowman 68
“Clem @61,
So that’s where I’ve seen him!”
I’m telling ya, it is! Look at the guy’s picture up there, then think of him purring “Fraulein Ravenwood… let me show you what AH am used to…” like Peter friggin’ Lorre.
(I wonder if he has one of those boss coat hangars made of chain…)
cbl – the hummingbird pix were from the Tuscon area.
here’s the link again:
http://www.wolf-digital.com/sh…../index.htm
Seems to me that we’ve got a two party system all right. Here’s how it works. There are lots of opinions out there in the naked city- some of em winners- most of em losers.
Each of the parties tries to find an issue or two that it can “own”. Tax cuts is a good one- who doesn’t love tax cuts? Loving Jesus is another good one- who can be against loving Jesus? Then there’s “Don’t let the motherfuckers push american around” That one’s always popular. Voila- you’ve gotcher gooper party- strike up the band- wave the flag- and send it to the printer.
Seems like the goopers got ta pick first and get all the good issues? Well dems are in favor of EATING- and that’s a popular position- but a lot more controversial than it once was- cause the dem version is that EVERYONE should eat. Not so popular. Then ya got “everyone should get medical care” definately not so popular. And the dems don’t have anything NEARLY as good as “love Jesus”
So until “Everyone Eat” begins to rival “Love Jesus”- dems are destined for hard times.
I always wonder if Jesus would favor “Love Jesus” or “Everyone Eat”.
Now that I can bear to look at the photo of Hayden again does anyone else think that he may be Karl Rove’s twin or maybe a Photoshop of Rove in an AF uniform?
them perch are real fighting fish! I bet it took him at least 3 hours to reel that sucker in!
The Dems will get nowhere with Pelosi and Feinstein. It’s time to get some backbone in Cali, people!
Iteresting article by Ignatius on the absolute chaos at CIA. Dems should point out how much this endangers the American people. Instead of keeping us safer, Bush FEMA’d the CIA.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01660.html
THis is what happens when you govern by right wing talking points.
Timmeh spends more time with the comedian than he does with the minority leader. Please…
There are still parts of america where you can buy a small plot of land cheaper than the price of a fuckin Dodge Neon. Everyone snap one up quick! If we get more Clusterfuckism- ya can always buy a used mobile home for a few thousand dollars an put it on your land. Buy a 100 pound bag of flour and raise a few veggies- and you’ll survive.
Keep in mind Bush only fishes in recently-stocked lakes. When he was on the Roland Martin fishing show they dumped new fish into the lake just prior to the excursion. Like Cheney hunting penned birds, Bush needs a guaranteed kill.
Is that a white perch, a k a crappie?
In parts of Louisiana, white perch are called “sac au lait”.
New caption for Bush photo “sac au merde catches sac au lait”
I think Clusterfuck caught the perch at his OWN lake- on the Crawford Pig Farm. That’s why he’s so proud.
Cheney fishes with a shotgun
ROFL– thanks for that AirportCat!
i Seems like the goopers got ta pick first and get all the good issues?
Well, when the Democrats seem unable to restrain themselves from supporting some of the worst shit that BushCo and the GOP dream up (tax cuts for the wealthy is a good idea? Gen. Hayden is a good choice to head the CIfuckingA? WTF???) then I think it’s more than just a matter of the Goopers “getting all the good issues”
I mean, “God hates fags” and “The brown people are out to get you?” I wouldn’t exactly call those particular cornerstones of the GOP message to be “the good issues.” Knowhutahmean?
For Chicago FDLers:
Rep Murtha is speaking in Evanston (with Jan Schakowsky) at Norris Center on the Northwestern campus today. The doors open at 2:15. The event is free. It should last about 2 hours.
Norris Center is the student center and is located just off Sheridan road near the lake.
What’s the technical term for the disease?
Policitianicitis? Not answering anything with a yes or no answer. That’s the definition of politican to millions. Break that mold and buddy you got yourself a VAST majority.
Coporations don’t like it. But Americans love it.
Seems a clear cut choice that we get the answer to everytime some open their mouths.
sharkbabe 73 -
“gotta-buy-an-escort-to-get-some repuke”
now that’s an image that’ll restrain my appetites at the farmers’ market this morning.
blecch..
but good word picture, all the same
bush goes fishing: http://theblog.cc/revolutionar…..gsmall.jpg
“Let the people KEEP their money- Love Jesus- an kill the evil doers”
See how easy it is ta be a gooper!
I’ve been searching Google News for “Goss” and then “Goss+Foggo”, and about 7/8 of the stories don’t mention Foggo at all. Of the 1/8 that do, about 2/3 are partisan or international publications.
So as Greenwald says, suddenly the media have become interested in serious policy issues rather than scandal. How convenient.
Probably the bureaucratic infighting is what they say, but the only reason for the media not to mention the scandal at all, which allowed Goss’s enemies to force Bush’s hand, is to protect Bush.
NY Daily news has more on Hookergate.
http://www.nydailynews.com/fro…..1086c.html
Sorry if it has been posted before, looked new to me.
I’m with Billmon – what this all means is that the CIA is deader than Gen. Franco.
If the evil doers are just misunderstood people lacking is social skills- then gooperism loses some impact.
If the evil doers are actually goopers- then gooperism loses a LOT of impact.
If the “love Jesus” crowd- are actually standing behind Jesus to pick his pocket- well then they really can’t afford ta let you know that can they?
Sounds like more of the flight forward. Choose the most devisive SOB you can find and stick to him like tar to feathers even while your Administration is no longer circling but definitely in the crapper. Why does this remind me of Hitler sending out orders from his bunker in Berlin to armies that no longer existed? Maybe because like him Bush is committed to his failures in an almost psychosexual way and is going to go down guns blazing, the country be damned.
Honk if ya love Jesus for returning the money you been sending to Washington!
Stephen @88~
Timmeh positively attacked Pelosi, and she held her own against him. Makes me wonder what the hell he’ll do if the Dems win control in the fall, and then win the 2008 presidential election.
OTOH, when the Dems hold their position as well as Pelosi did this morning, it just makes the “loyal opposition” that would be the Democrats look all the stronger, imho. (and Pelosi is not my most favorite congress person).
rwcole, left you something downstairs
and here we go again – Who is currently Deputy Director of NSA ?
#94
Saw it on TNT last night. Hee-larious. Barkley said he wished we could send both of them fishing-permanently.
#54: This guy is a McCain supporter. What do you expect?
“Hoekstra, chair of the House Intelligence Committee, just said on TV that Hayden would be a terrible choice.”
I’ll bet Hoekstra already gotten the phone call from the White House. He’ll fall in line like a good boy and will be supporting Hayden enthusiastically before the end of the week.
rwcole—I was in the hospital recently with only a Gideon Bible, King James Version, to read.
It was pretty interesting. I noticed Jesus commanded people to “love one another.” Over and over again.
He asked, Did you visit me in prison, did you feed me….what you’ve done to the least of these, you’ve done to me.
He healed on the Sabbath. Got in bad trouble for it but did it.
Also he healed “the lame, the halt, those afflicted with skin diseases and the lunatick.” (I know how they’re using lunatick, but the way I read it, I took to mean those afflicted with moon-related illness. As a former ER tech I know we still think more people come in with psych crises during full moons. Also what I really noticed was kidney stone admissions went up during full moons. Anyway…)
Jesus approved of mental health parity, y’all.
Anne@50~
Thanks for the summary of the morning shows. I just got in a few moments ago from visitng my mother and caught only the atil of the MTP attack on Pelosi. And as I said a minut ago, she held her own.
oops
Anne @ 50 = Anne @51
The idea that fucking idiot doesn’t know enough to keep his fish tale to himself is grounds enough to throw his ass out. He is utterly and totally insane.
cbl– Deputy Director? Think it might be the old lady they found in LA living in her Neon. Clusterfuck forgot to inform her that she got the job.
Will SOMEBODY please say “I’m not sure why we would consider confirming someone who has responsibility to abide by the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution who doesn’t even know what it says.”?
Oh, and thanks to Uh Clem. Gen. Hayden=Col. Dietrich, who sought to make the Law his own.
Margot- there is SOME reason to think that Jesus in in favor of everyone eating. We can’t prove it- of course- maybe he’s really a gooper and is in favor of “everyone eating who can pay”.
What the hell would happen if EVERYBODY got to eat- EVEN IF THEY COULDN’T PAY?
The “Little Red Hen”- central political document in the gooper party.
I often go to bed at night- concerned about those in the world who might have gone to bed with a full belly that they really don’t deserve because they :
1) Couldn’t pay for it
2) Don’t love Jesus.
This is the primary thing that is wrong with america!
rwcole @67 says: Life in Clusterfuck’s america. He should be required to spend one night out of every three in a Neon.
The other nights he should have to spend in shelters around southern L.A or on the west side of Chicago.
If people get a meal when they can’t afford to pay- and if they LOVE Jesus- it’s OK cause it’s a FAITH based initiative. If ya get fed an ya can’t pay an ya DON’T love Jesus- then it’s a faithless initiative and shouldn’t be allowed.
New thread
ceci @78 says:
OTBush’s best moment in office? Reeling in big perch.
I agree. This is probably the only good thing coming out of his time in the white house. and actually, like 47% of the WH years, he was not at the WH.
twolf1 @101~
Thanks for the photo. I couldn’t have found that in a million years….
Stephen Parrish, CPA says:
May 7th, 2006 at 8:41 am
Sorry – had to run out – coffee pot died, and that had to be rectified *fast*.
I found it in the comments section @TNH from yesterday: I pulled from that.
Aargh – can’t get a link – it’s in the comments under EW’s May 5 entry (joejoejoe comment).
what is TNH?
thanks
Leslie says:
May 7th, 2006 at 9:38 am
Leslie – The Next Hurrah
#115
No she didn’t. Russert beat her like she owed him money.
I thought that except for the hemming and hawing re:the tax issue, she did okay – when allowed to respond. But I’ll try to watch the videocast tonight. I wanted her to just ask him who in the administration paid his salary.
Thanks for TNH
Bush and his stupid fish reminds me of the BIG LIE joke my dad used to say about some fisherman:
I got the fish (stretching his arms WIDE)
….this far from shore.
Bush – THE BIG LIE GUY!
cajun @ 113
While I am not all that familiar with Pere Hoekstra, I lived in Western Michigan for a few years in college and cannot imagine that anyone would consider him a ‘maverick’ or anything.
His public opposition is significant and should be ragarded as such.
This appointment might well be another Harriet Miers manoeuver, designed to make it look like the next nominee is ‘moderate’.
Leslie
Why would she ask him that when she’s not willing to ask him why he’s rude? C,mon. Stand up to these people or go away! Democrats better decide now whether they are going to be tough or lose.
Stephen @135~
I agree. I just want SOMEONE to ask Timmeh that. And every Sunday from now on. These are the fanatasies that keep me going.
You keep saying the confirmation hearings on Hayden will be interesting. You are naive. If the stonewalling of Gonzales is any indication, you will hear nothing, nada, from this individual regarding any of aWol’s State Secrets.
He looks like one of the pig men from Hothead Paisan.
It’s the military affiliation that scares me – Hayden is pure military, overseeing what’s supposed to be a civilian agency. Let’s hope we have a real debate on the domestic spying issue. It’s all more of the same anyway – incompetence and political in-fighting…