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	<title>Comments on: Patrick Kennedy, Rush Limbaugh and the Right Wing Cop-Out</title>
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		<title>By: Fues Fission</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/06/patrick-kennedy-rush-limbaugh-and-the-right-wing-cop-out/#comment-130139</link>
		<dc:creator>Fues Fission</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 01:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am a professional at this stuff, I am an alcoholic and dopefiend, been clean since 1976. One of the ways to be successful at abstaining from drugs is to admit your mistakes and make amends where possible. People who don’t know anything about addiction can spout inanities about the twelve steps of AA and NA but they work. It is a disease and a very serious one. Drugs are a lot of fun..for awhile, but if you are like me, you become enslaved by them and it is not easy to walk away, AA and NA saved my life in the form of an ex-con and a vietnam vet. Rush’s statement that all dopefiends, or whatever you want to call them, should be locked up is typical of the mindset of the provincial mind, whether from the right or the left, it is draconian and only creates more of the same. For Rush to not do the things I mentioned above is a recipe for repetition of his drug use, I personally dislike him intensely, he is an irresponsible bag of shit, but I would not wish prison as a solution for his addiction. People like him are their own reward, and his day will come without any assistance from you or me. An aside; drugs are drugs-prescription, street=the same fucking result no distinction should be implied by anyone.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a professional at this stuff, I am an alcoholic and dopefiend, been clean since 1976. One of the ways to be successful at abstaining from drugs is to admit your mistakes and make amends where possible. People who don’t know anything about addiction can spout inanities about the twelve steps of AA and NA but they work. It is a disease and a very serious one. Drugs are a lot of fun..for awhile, but if you are like me, you become enslaved by them and it is not easy to walk away, AA and NA saved my life in the form of an ex-con and a vietnam vet. Rush’s statement that all dopefiends, or whatever you want to call them, should be locked up is typical of the mindset of the provincial mind, whether from the right or the left, it is draconian and only creates more of the same. For Rush to not do the things I mentioned above is a recipe for repetition of his drug use, I personally dislike him intensely, he is an irresponsible bag of shit, but I would not wish prison as a solution for his addiction. People like him are their own reward, and his day will come without any assistance from you or me. An aside; drugs are drugs-prescription, street=the same fucking result no distinction should be implied by anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 18:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I detest people who excuse Kennedy’s behavior by pointing at Limbaugh.  Did he even endanger anyone?  Impaired driving is dangerous &amp; shouldn’t be tolerated because of some notion of political party parity.  As a survivor of a hit-and-run by a drunk, I want zero tolerance.  Limbaugh bought preferential justice, but Kennedy inherited it.  Drunk &amp; impaired driving is common because the perps don’t fear punishment.  Kennedy should be jailed, but the authorities are just covering it up.  He didn’t even need to ask for it.  Shame on Dems &amp; Repubs for moral cowardice.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I detest people who excuse Kennedy’s behavior by pointing at Limbaugh.  Did he even endanger anyone?  Impaired driving is dangerous &amp; shouldn’t be tolerated because of some notion of political party parity.  As a survivor of a hit-and-run by a drunk, I want zero tolerance.  Limbaugh bought preferential justice, but Kennedy inherited it.  Drunk &amp; impaired driving is common because the perps don’t fear punishment.  Kennedy should be jailed, but the authorities are just covering it up.  He didn’t even need to ask for it.  Shame on Dems &amp; Repubs for moral cowardice.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitchel Schapira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitchel Schapira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 00:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jane, you are a former prosecutor, are you not? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Did Patrick Kennedy do anything wrong? I understand that he took medication as prescribed for him, legally by the presumably reputable Attending Physician to the United States Congress.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kennedy had an atypical reaction, but one that is documented in the literature. He accepted responsibility for not being aware of the danger of the combination of the two drugs, and is dealing with it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How in blue blazes does that compare to what Rush did?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Visit the Schapira blog, &lt;a href=&quot;http://schapira.blogspot.com&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;What we know so far …&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“… and tell ‘em Big Mitch sent ya!”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, you are a former prosecutor, are you not? </p>
<p>Did Patrick Kennedy do anything wrong? I understand that he took medication as prescribed for him, legally by the presumably reputable Attending Physician to the United States Congress.  </p>
<p>Kennedy had an atypical reaction, but one that is documented in the literature. He accepted responsibility for not being aware of the danger of the combination of the two drugs, and is dealing with it. </p>
<p>How in blue blazes does that compare to what Rush did?</p>
<p>Visit the Schapira blog, <a href="http://schapira.blogspot.com"><em>What we know so far …<br />
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<p>“… and tell ‘em Big Mitch sent ya!”</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
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		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 21:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bithead, I am not sure you have anything to substantiate that  Kennedy was drinking or on pain medication. Ambien is a sleeping pill prescribed to bipolar patients since one of the symptoms of bipolarism is severe insomnia. If it is the pill I am thinking of , it is short acting. A doctor once prescribed me a couple to combat jet lag.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bithead, I am not sure you have anything to substantiate that  Kennedy was drinking or on pain medication. Ambien is a sleeping pill prescribed to bipolar patients since one of the symptoms of bipolarism is severe insomnia. If it is the pill I am thinking of , it is short acting. A doctor once prescribed me a couple to combat jet lag.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 13:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There were many on the left who chided Limbaugh for being less than kind to addicts of so called “recreational drugs”. I even made reference to that point in this space.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However; there is a massive difference between someone becoming addicted to “recreational drugs” and someone becoming addicted to pain medication which was under the care of a doctor. I still hold that be the case…. including for Kennedy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If, in fact, Kennedy is telling the truth here, (and leaving aside the question of his smelling like he’d been drinking, and reports from two different bartenders in two different bars that he had been a patron of each of them that evening…) if his addiction to the pain medication in question was in fact the cause of the apparent ‘loss of control’, shall we say, then the man deserves at least a modicum of support. It is fair to say that under such conditions he would not have arrived at that juncture by choice, as would someone addicted to ‘recreational drugs’.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, let’s ask now, as we saw asked by the left regards Mr. Limbaugh, just which medication he did become addicted to, and where it was he got his supply from.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I seem to recall Mr. Limbaugh being chased for months and years over an alleged incident of doctor shopping. It was alleged that Mr. Limbaugh are used this method to obtain the drug that he was addicted to. Did Mr. Kennedy?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Consider this carefully… Any doctor who would have Mr. Kennedy in his care, would certainly have been aware of his being in a rehab for his addiction, wouldn’t you say? Unless, perchance, he went to another doctor, who didn’t know is case very well, and yet was willing to write out a prescription .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why have no such questions come up from the press as regards Mr. Kennedy? Why are the legal authorities in the area is represented by Mr. Kennedy not looking into this? One possible reason, of course, is that they, too, are Democrats.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Further, why is it that we’re not hearing about which medication that Mr. Kennedy became addicted to? Is it possible that Mr. Kennedy became addicted to the very same medication that Mr. Limbaugh did? If so we would seem to have been even more glaring double standard then we started with.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And again, all this assumes that Mr. Kennedy is telling the truth, that his addiction to painkillers medications and not alcohol was the cause of the last couple of accidents that he’s on record as having caused. This would seem to be a rather large and unwarranted assumption.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In either case, whether Mr. Kennedy is telling the truth or not, Mr. Kennedy should resign, or be forcibly removed from his office, being unfit for the position… beacuse… again, in either case…several laws have been broken and need to be enforced.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If the people that were grave dancing as regards Mr. Limbaugh are being honest and truthful they will join me in calling for Mr. Kennedy’s ouster , prosecution, and jailing. Just like they did Rush.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Funny, isn’t it, how this ‘fairness and consiatncy’ thing works?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were many on the left who chided Limbaugh for being less than kind to addicts of so called “recreational drugs”. I even made reference to that point in this space.</p>
<p>However; there is a massive difference between someone becoming addicted to “recreational drugs” and someone becoming addicted to pain medication which was under the care of a doctor. I still hold that be the case…. including for Kennedy.</p>
<p>If, in fact, Kennedy is telling the truth here, (and leaving aside the question of his smelling like he’d been drinking, and reports from two different bartenders in two different bars that he had been a patron of each of them that evening…) if his addiction to the pain medication in question was in fact the cause of the apparent ‘loss of control’, shall we say, then the man deserves at least a modicum of support. It is fair to say that under such conditions he would not have arrived at that juncture by choice, as would someone addicted to ‘recreational drugs’.</p>
<p>However, let’s ask now, as we saw asked by the left regards Mr. Limbaugh, just which medication he did become addicted to, and where it was he got his supply from.</p>
<p>I seem to recall Mr. Limbaugh being chased for months and years over an alleged incident of doctor shopping. It was alleged that Mr. Limbaugh are used this method to obtain the drug that he was addicted to. Did Mr. Kennedy?</p>
<p>Consider this carefully… Any doctor who would have Mr. Kennedy in his care, would certainly have been aware of his being in a rehab for his addiction, wouldn’t you say? Unless, perchance, he went to another doctor, who didn’t know is case very well, and yet was willing to write out a prescription .</p>
<p>Why have no such questions come up from the press as regards Mr. Kennedy? Why are the legal authorities in the area is represented by Mr. Kennedy not looking into this? One possible reason, of course, is that they, too, are Democrats.</p>
<p>Further, why is it that we’re not hearing about which medication that Mr. Kennedy became addicted to? Is it possible that Mr. Kennedy became addicted to the very same medication that Mr. Limbaugh did? If so we would seem to have been even more glaring double standard then we started with.</p>
<p>And again, all this assumes that Mr. Kennedy is telling the truth, that his addiction to painkillers medications and not alcohol was the cause of the last couple of accidents that he’s on record as having caused. This would seem to be a rather large and unwarranted assumption.</p>
<p>In either case, whether Mr. Kennedy is telling the truth or not, Mr. Kennedy should resign, or be forcibly removed from his office, being unfit for the position… beacuse… again, in either case…several laws have been broken and need to be enforced.</p>
<p>If the people that were grave dancing as regards Mr. Limbaugh are being honest and truthful they will join me in calling for Mr. Kennedy’s ouster , prosecution, and jailing. Just like they did Rush.</p>
<p>Funny, isn’t it, how this ‘fairness and consiatncy’ thing works?</p>
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		<title>By: freejack</title>
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		<dc:creator>freejack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 12:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Remember, back in the day, the right wing’s obsession with ‘character’? (err, other peoples) Haven’t heard much about that lately have we? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Substance addiction has no more to do with character than diabetes does. However, how the substance abuser comports himself before, during and after the public revelation of his addiction speaks to the individuals character.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Limbaughâ€™s words and actions have spoken volumes to his lack of any character. Kennedy? Time will tell.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and conveniences, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.” - Martin Luther King, Jr&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember, back in the day, the right wing’s obsession with ‘character’? (err, other peoples) Haven’t heard much about that lately have we? </p>
<p>Substance addiction has no more to do with character than diabetes does. However, how the substance abuser comports himself before, during and after the public revelation of his addiction speaks to the individuals character.</p>
<p>Limbaughâ€™s words and actions have spoken volumes to his lack of any character. Kennedy? Time will tell.</p>
<p>“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and conveniences, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.” &#8211; Martin Luther King, Jr</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/06/patrick-kennedy-rush-limbaugh-and-the-right-wing-cop-out/#comment-94390</link>
		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 11:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In other words, waving a sleep pill before a manic patient who canâ€™t sleep is like waving the elixir of life before a dying patient. Really. Doctors need more wisdom. I canâ€™t blame P. Kennedy at all, since clearly he is open about his illness and he probably wrote it down on his watch-you-ma-call-it first time around.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other words, waving a sleep pill before a manic patient who canâ€™t sleep is like waving the elixir of life before a dying patient. Really. Doctors need more wisdom. I canâ€™t blame P. Kennedy at all, since clearly he is open about his illness and he probably wrote it down on his watch-you-ma-call-it first time around.</p>
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		<title>By: The Oracle</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 10:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, it’s just like in one of those Communist “re-education camps.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’re all being “re-educated” by the right wingnuts, including Rushie baby, to believe up is down, right is left, unprovable creationism is comparable to provable science, or that Rushie bag is not a lying hypocritical junkie.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yep, according to these wingnuts, all Americans need is a little “re-education” through the Republican-controlled MSM, in public schools, at the Air Force Academy, over the radio airwaves, and America can return to the Republican glory days of Eisenhower, or maybe the Republican glory days before the New Deal, or maybe the Republican glory days before the Civil War, or maybe the Republican/Tory/Aristocratic days before that pesky U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights passed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry, I’m too old to be fooled and too ornery to be “re-educated” into believing that a bunch of totalitarian assholes are something other than totalitarian assholes, hell-bent on destroying our democracy so they can really go Communist on us and actually build “re-education camps,” which would probably cost $385 million and involve a no-bid Halliburton contract. Oooops.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it’s just like in one of those Communist “re-education camps.”</p>
<p>We’re all being “re-educated” by the right wingnuts, including Rushie baby, to believe up is down, right is left, unprovable creationism is comparable to provable science, or that Rushie bag is not a lying hypocritical junkie.</p>
<p>Yep, according to these wingnuts, all Americans need is a little “re-education” through the Republican-controlled MSM, in public schools, at the Air Force Academy, over the radio airwaves, and America can return to the Republican glory days of Eisenhower, or maybe the Republican glory days before the New Deal, or maybe the Republican glory days before the Civil War, or maybe the Republican/Tory/Aristocratic days before that pesky U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights passed.</p>
<p>Sorry, I’m too old to be fooled and too ornery to be “re-educated” into believing that a bunch of totalitarian assholes are something other than totalitarian assholes, hell-bent on destroying our democracy so they can really go Communist on us and actually build “re-education camps,” which would probably cost $385 million and involve a no-bid Halliburton contract. Oooops.</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
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		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 10:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Margaret. I am glad to see you. I canâ€™t help but add this to what you wrote: people with bipolar illness often canâ€™t sleep, sometimes for days. My childhood friend was like that and his other medicationâ€”lithium-type medication and antipsychotics included–sometimes didnâ€™t even make a dent in his mania. So sometimes valium-type drugs or sleeping meds were prescribed. He was under supervision of a treatment team. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It seems P* Kennedy was left on his own and that was not fair to him. Itâ€™s the way those managed healthcare type doctors operate. They have insurance companies telling them to prescribe the meds and get on with it. Well look what happens? I hope Kennedy recovers and gets back to Congress to work on the parity stuff, I really do&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Margaret. I am glad to see you. I canâ€™t help but add this to what you wrote: people with bipolar illness often canâ€™t sleep, sometimes for days. My childhood friend was like that and his other medicationâ€”lithium-type medication and antipsychotics included–sometimes didnâ€™t even make a dent in his mania. So sometimes valium-type drugs or sleeping meds were prescribed. He was under supervision of a treatment team. </p>
<p>It seems P* Kennedy was left on his own and that was not fair to him. Itâ€™s the way those managed healthcare type doctors operate. They have insurance companies telling them to prescribe the meds and get on with it. Well look what happens? I hope Kennedy recovers and gets back to Congress to work on the parity stuff, I really do</p>
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		<title>By: sona</title>
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		<dc:creator>sona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 09:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Whats this re the housekeeper in the carpark who allegedly got paid by the broadsheet media?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On a serious note, it is not good medical practice to prescribe morphine derivatives as analgesics for chronic conditions over a long term.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats this re the housekeeper in the carpark who allegedly got paid by the broadsheet media?</p>
<p>On a serious note, it is not good medical practice to prescribe morphine derivatives as analgesics for chronic conditions over a long term.</p>
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