
It’s time for regime change in Washington.
In 1961, Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower said:
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
Eisenhower’s famous warning is as salient today as ever, but it is incomplete. We live in a media age unlike any Eisenhower ever contemplated. Indulge me in a reformulation of Eisenhower’s words for the 21st Century:
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the mediagovernmental complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
At the beginning of the current administration, the rallying cry from the right was "personnel is policy." Let’s examine what they meant a little more closely, because it illuminates much of the madness we’ve seen in America since, and what we are seeing (barely reported) in the establishment news today. Here’s the advice given to the new puppet president, advice wholeheartedly taken in the parlors of power, entitled "Personnel is Policy" (emphasis in the original):
Resist advice to leave careerists in top spots during the first days of his Administration. Because the transition period has been nearly cut in half by the uncertainty of the election outcome and attendant litigation, the President-elect is already under pressure to name fewer political appointees to various key positions in federal agencies and departments and to rely instead on senior career civil servants to carry out the responsibilities that otherwise would belong to his political appointees. Some of this advice comes from well-meaning advisors who do not appreciate the critical work of political appointees. In other cases, the advice comes from individuals who well understand that reducing the quality or quantity of political appointments will reduce Bush’s chances of success in accomplishing his conservative agenda, effectively "moderat[ing] any ideologically driven agenda."2
Accepting such advice would be a profound mistake. For one thing, a politically neutral class of federal civil servants should not be given the task of formulating major policy changes, often drafted in partisan conventions. It is wrong to force career civil servants to don a mantle of political responsibility. Their credibility as neutral administrators of politically directed policies would be permanently compromised. It is the responsibility of political appointees to formulate and oversee the execution of the details of a partisan policy agenda ratified in an election, particularly an agenda for reversing existing policy or initiating a major policy change.
Moreover, the President must insist that only his political appointees, not career civil servants, speak to Congress on matters of policy. This will have an added benefit of making sure that Congress is clear on the message from the Administration. Members of Congress cannot legislate in a political vacuum, trying to second guess what the President may or may not do in the course of the legislative process.
[snip]
Hire non-career personnel on the basis of their commitment to his policy agenda. The President’s ultimate success will in large part depend on the degree of commitment to his agenda among the people he appoints to ensure its success.
It is of course desirable that Cabinet Secretaries, Assistant Secretaries, and other agency heads have extensive managerial experience. But managerial experience or technical expertise–amply available within the ranks of the senior career civil service–is no substitute for commitment to the President’s policies or his vision for America. Thus, the most important rule of presidential personnel management is to appoint people who are fully committed to the presidential agenda. Moreover, the appointees must be fully prepared to articulate that agenda, effectively defend it in the public forum, and oversee the correct execution of the President’s specific policies by the career civil service.
Thus, incompetence and cronyism became policy, championed by the epic idiot in the Oval Office. There’s much more in that Heritage Foundation article, and I encourage everyone to review it. It’s the blueprint for the putsch. As has been much noted in the wake of Katrina, movement conservatives hated government, or at least, government predicated on protecting and forwarding the common good. As Grover Norquist famously quipped:
“My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub.”
But as the Heritage article demonstrates, there was always an inherent, underlying conflict between small government rhetoric and the right wing power grab (emphasis in the original):
Protect his appointive power against congressional encroachments. Respecting the prerogatives of the Chief Executive on personnel management issues has been a continuing challenge for many Members of Congress. Regardless of their differences with an Administration, Members of Congress must accept the right and duty of the President to appoint his own men and women.
Remarkably, Members of the 104th Congress, perhaps motivated by political hostility to President Bill Clinton, at one point unwisely proposed cutting the already small number of executive branch political appointees by one-third, intending to fill those positions with career civil servants. Such a wrongheaded policy not only would have weakened President Clinton’s legitimate control over the execution of his policy agenda, but also would have undermined his overall management of the government.4 President Clinton successfully warded off this congressional encroachment on his authority. President George W. Bush should just as aggressively resist any attempt by Congress to limit his ability to appoint the number of political appointees that he thinks necessary or desirable to carry out his agenda.
Small government conservative libertarians like those at the Cato Institute, who now know they’ve been punked, never had a chance.
If personnel is policy, then Republican government policy is criminality. Every day brings new revelations of systematic, organized criminal conduct by Republicans in government. In national politics, when Democrats transgress, they do so as individuals, not as members of a criminal network. Republicans have not only further corrupted Washington (no mean feat!), they’ve made of it a monument to muck for the ages.
Eisenhower’s GOP is long gone: today’s Republican party is indeed a criminal network. Much has been made during the last week of the sham "reforms’ approved in the House of Representatives, but even reform minded progressives overlook the significance of the demolition of preexisting institutional safeguards against corruption, like the House Ethics Committee, by Republicans. Creating more oversight institutions or systemic reforms is a fool’s errand when responsibility for adhering to ethical guidelines is delegated to criminals. Ergo, restoring government of the people, by the people and for the people begins not so much with systemic reform as with criminal prosecution and electoral consequence. "Throw the bums out?" That’s not enough. Don’t forget, "Throw the crooks in jail!"
Personnel is policy. And yet, regime change in Washington requires more than just the elimination of a whole generation of Republican politicians and activists from public life, eradicated at least for a generation more. The Republican criminal class of the current generation has not slithered, cheated, bribed and whored its way to power without the active support and contrivance of the establishment media, which Digby has rightly described as a courtier class.
Personnel is not only policy in politics. The establishment media has been shaped through the selection of news editors enamoured more of power and status than of the common good. Professionally, I have consulted on the selection of literally hundreds of corporate executives, and while I have not worked for establishment media clients, I can guarantee you the news editors at The Washington Post, the New York Times, ABC News, CBS News, NBC News, Gannett, the Associated Press and CNN, to name a few, have all been chosen because they will not threaten power. To their bosses, they have no "agenda," which is to say, they have no passion for the common good (Gail Collins, editor of the New York Times editorial page since June, 2001, shows signs of being an exception). In fact, the courtier class loathes not just the common good, but commoners: people like you and me who have built an alternate media universe through the democratizing power of the Internet. Of course they found Steven Colbert humorless at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner. His comedy speaks for commoners, fueled by passion for the common good.
If personnel is policy, then reclaiming America for the common interests of Americans involves not only the permanent removal and discrediting of a generation of weak, corrupt Republican politicians, activists and lobbyists, but also of the major news editors of the country and the sycophantic pecksniff power pundits they employ. We often berate them for their lies and omissions, but we do not go "wide" with our indictment to advocate wholesale regime change in the establishment media. Truly, there will be no editorial reform absent the removal of the editorial limousine drivers of our current caste of political power whores. Fred Hiatt, Monsignor Tim and all their peers simply must go, for they are the manufacturers of consent, forming the other, critical half of today’s mediagovernmental complex.
Right wing movement conservatives recognize the threat to their power as Republican government crashes and burns, so people like Bill Kristol of the Weekly Standard play a slimy game of slipping the shiv to the administration while backing the development of a new generation of right wing apologists like fresh faced Matthew Continetti, whose new book argues the Republican governing class of 1994 was comprised of innocent idealists later corrupted by Washington. I shit you not. He knows all this, of course, even though in 1994 he was fourteen years old, doubtless newly attentive to the plenteous treats of Onan.
The Republican "revolutionaries" of 1994 were emphatically not idealists. They were crooks who made Washington as or more corrupt than it has ever been. But this is the sleight of hand people like Kristol are pulling to distract the rest of us from recognizing the one true thing they said at the dawn of the George W. Bush era: personnel is policy. Accordingly, the architects of today’s mediagovernmental complex, in both the Republican party and the news divisions of our establishment media, must go. Any Democrat who fails to recognize the fundamental need to organize and to campaign directly against the sewer rats of this symbiotic axis is dooming the party to continued failure, and more importantly, the American people to continuous disaster and harm.



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And another flaming Nazi gasbag!
‘Deck chairs on the Hindenburg’? Bah!…I prefer to think of it as hammocks at the Alamo, thank you ever so much.
;>)
Gen. Michael Hayden has been nominated to run the CIA. Imagine what a total fucking loser you have to be to accept a post in the Bush administration at this point in time.
We’ve got a disastrous war going in Iraq, we’ve lost the respect of the international community, we have a massive budget deficit, half the President’s staff is under investigation or indictment, Shrub’s popularity is down to 33%, and Hayden wants to get aboard this sinking ship?
The guy must have self-esteem issues or something.
Heh – the die hard FDL dead enders are still about.
http://bradblog.com/BradShow/T…..061105.htm
Ray McGovern on the CIA:
===The other half is, well, how could he have had the willing acquiescence or complicity of top-level Intelligence Officers to do this, and the answer to that is that there has been a whole generation during which people have been promoted and have moved into managerial positions because they smelled which way the wind was blowing and trimmed their analytical sails accordingly. It started in 1981 with Bill Casey and Bobby Gates, and right now you have the inevitable result of a system where people, sycophants are moved upward because they know the right answers and they will tell the President what the President wants to know and that is, if you are going to have that in an Intelligence Organization, you might as well just abolish it as Dan Moynihan suggested years ago, and start anew.===
Absolutely! The corporate press has become the enemy of the people. How do we overthrow them? How do we spread our message far and wide to average people who aren’t going to sit in front of a computer?
Love the graphic. Anyone here remember the “WKRP in Cincinnati” episode with the turkey drop? Remind you of anything?
Great post Pach!
Big, heady goals. Brings to mind the quip “How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time”
A Heritage Foundation hack, (bad as they are) sitll has more sense than Bush/Cheney. I think Pach was a little inaccurate. Bush/Cheney didn’t follow this advice:
“It is of course desirable that Cabinet Secretaries, Assistant Secretaries, and other agency heads have extensive managerial experience.”
Goss? Brown? All the top FEMA heads immediately under Brown. Entire Iraq reconstruction administration? NeoCon cabal? (who were allowed access to positions here they allowd to actually try to run something rather than just sit in airles thinktank rooms and spout crazed and fantastical policies) Who else?
Why are so many of the so-called family values crowd involved in gambling, graft, corruption, extortion, bribery, lying, cheating, stealing and other sundry vices?
I thought one was supposed to go and sin no more, not confess and regress to the same crimes over and over again. It’s like an addiction to crime.
Wow, Pach. That is a truly amazing post. That Heritage Foundation piece perfectly explains what Digby said today — why Brownie is indeed the cream of the crop.
The establishment media has been shaped through the selection of news editors enamoured more of power and status than of the common good.
I’m reading Eric Boehlert’s book right now and it’s basically an illustration of just that point; he talks at length about the effect this has had on the national discourse and how toxic it is. When you see the rundown all together like that it is quite frightening.
By the bye… nice timing on the photo, Pach! The Hindenburg burned at Lakehurst exactly 69 years ago tonight.
wesgpc:
Take a look again. I pulled a quote from them that says political loyalty trumps managerial ability.
Uh. . Clem:
Gosh, I wish I could say I knew that when I chose the pic.
And one of our favorite reporters, Nagourney, has this bit out tomorrow in the NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05…..79&ei=
(not sure if the link will work)
Story’s about how hard it will be for Dems in Ohio. Bad news is that Rove, who seems to have time to help out Repugs there, has been urging attacks on Brown.
“The Democratic campaign to unseat Senator DeWine has been pivotal to the party’s ambition for capturing the Senate. But those hopes have been dampened as Republicans began a barrage of attacks on Mr. Brown’s positions on taxes, military appropriations and social issues. The attacks have been pressed by Karl Rove, Mr. Bush’s chief political adviser, who flew here last month to urge the mild-mannered Mr. DeWine to adopt the strategy to avoid defeat, Ohio Republicans said.
Senator Elizabeth Dole of North Carolina, the head of the Republican Senate campaign committee, said attacks on Mr. Brown’s ideology would compensate for what she acknowledged was a difficult atmosphere for Republicans.
Mr. Brown is considered one of the more liberal members of the state’s Congressional delegation; he supports abortion rights, opposed the constitutional amendment prohibiting same-sex marriage and voted against the war in Iraq.”
And yep, repugs arerunning on the hot social issues–guns, abortion, and same-sex marriage because who cares about these facts? “State officials estimate that Ohio has lost more than 175,000 manufacturing jobs in the last decade and the number of adults in the state without health care has risen by 45 percent.”
Meanwhile, Blackwell supports the state-ban on gay marriage and is opposed to abortion EVEN TO SAVE THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER. My god, it’s going to be bad in 06.
Jane: I ordered Lapdogs and look forward to reading it.
My take on why Goss is gone. Mostly from combined unlinked cable news talking heads and various MSN news articles which all seem to fit…
Goss was a “three day a week” work guy. Delegated everything to his Congressional aid Republican partisan hacks that he brought with him to the CIA. Negroponte is said to be a micro manager. If all the above is true, that’s the rub, impasse, IMO.
In any event, Hayben brings his own “team” in and Foggo, and Goss’s “aids” disappear in the “management reorganization”.
Semblance, we’d better protect the web.
With a free and equal internet, the hold the corporate media holds over the populace will continue to diminish.
Hopefully, “people powered politics” and “direct democracy” will continue to grow. I fear that an informed and active populace is the only thing that can combat the unholy merger of religion, idolatry and corporatism we are witnessing.
God. Beautiful. I’m reeling. Perfection.
Oh and the “governing class of 1994″ — are we talking about Newt and all his bs here? What a crock, that the whole “contract with America” was about idealism. Ever. Maybe the dupes who fell for it, but it was nothing more than a cynical power grab.
Pachacutec – A most excellent post! I remember reading something by Norman Soloman, maybe somebody else at FAIR, calling for term limits for political pundits. Sounded good then, even more so now.
LOL! I thought it was probably a coincidence, Pach. It’s mostly me and my fellow airship nuts who remember May 6th as the Hindenburg anniversary when it rolls around.
But way to luck into it nonetheless!
(Excellent article, by the way. Sobering, but excellent.)
Uh…Clem:
Thanks! I was in the mood to write something a little more weighty and analytical tonight, as opposed to my call to action pieces or snarky attack jobs.
But I DO agree with Urban Pirate #9, it is a great post. Pach, or anyone, have recommended readings on formation and current operation and generatl physiology and anatomy of the new mediagovernmental complex? For awhile I paid quite a bit of attention to the media mergers and FCC cave-ins on media concentration. But to be honest, if I were trying to argue this to someone unconvinced, I would be at a loss as to the recent history facts and figures. I guess stuff like disastrous and mistaken wars of choice have distracted me. I would be reduced to “Well, just get a load of all the %$##! you hear!” But I think we should be able to do better than that.
Is there a book or set of readings that might make a good subject for some upcoming session of the FDL book club?
I think Pach made a very good point that the powers that chose Bush and chose some of the more bought out media divas are searching and bidding for the next generation. They may not hit it on a the right formula right away, or the right raw material might not be ready. But these forces have deep pockets and are very patient. Had to wait 15 years since Reagan for repeat, but the death and destruction much worse this time, the chosen politician a much worse president, and they came closer to their goal of erasing 50, 100, and in some ways, 216 years of progress. The public memory is short, so it could happen again. We are not sure we have escaped danger of the current reactionary social coup plot yet. This has be prevented from happening again, and we have to be a little more radical (in the good sense) in our approach. Have to attack the source of the rot at its roots, rather than focus on the temporary puppets, or the symptoms.
Jane- it was the “Contract on America”.
AirportCat #8 – Guess I’m telling my age, but I remember that episode. Still laugh when I think about it. Pretty much sums up the way this adminstration thinks things through.
Those who entreat filthy lucre as manna from heaven know no bounds in their pursuits. Pach is right, throw a big net and fetch them all to the courthouse. And their little dog too.
Markos and Jerome hav a really good section in their book on the “Contract with America” and how it came about — it was Heritage Foundation think tank shit, again. They quote Rob Stein:
“Gingrich didn’t come up with a single one of those ideas,” Stein said. “Those [ten] planks are all work products of the Heritage think tank. That was what they were doing in the 1980s and early 1990s, they were working on these ideas.” And not just in DC, but all around the country, at the state and local levels. So by the time Gingrich pulled it all together in the ten planks of the Contract with America it had been tried and tested through their system. And when Gingrich rode the Contract to a sweeping victory in the House, it was the maturation of the GOP from opposition to governing power. For the first time in six decades, Democrats were shut out of Contress.
When you read things like that it makes you a bit startled in the wake of how very behind the Democrats/left are in terms of infrastructure, organizing and policy development and implementation.
Wonderful post. This was no accident. This was planned and those who were so good at acquiring power and so incompetent in its use stand convicted in their own words. They can not be allowed to hide, temporize, or justify. Stupidity and arrogance have costs and we will be paying them long after this Administration is gone. The abettors and sanctioners may already be leaving the sinking ship but we should not let them leave quietly or forget who they are. We should not let them off the hook this time so that they can go off and formulate the next incarnation of their failed doctrines and policies.
Yes, VG. You’re right. It was.
Pach #14: Well, yeah, OK, yes you did. But my point stands. BushCo went even further in some ways that the nutjobs who were counseling him.
Re media history: Is “Lapdogs” on the book club list? That is good. But I want to read something that gives some of the history and power and $$ of corporate/governemnt connections and background. Does “Lapdogs” go into that?
Boy oh boy, Pachacutec, this is a strong ass piece of writing – Sunday Op Ed fare, precisely laying it out. Grounded, ratonal, with your now contagious passion shining through. Excellent !
Interesting to observe the evolution of our thinking and ideas – last week two or three readers pointing out the importance/influence of editors -feeding each other, fleshing it out through contributions, – crystallized here beautifully by Pacha – just as Markos and Jerome did with consultants – yeah, it’s hokey as shit, but this input, those contributions are why this fucker lives and breathes and may save us all
Semblance, we’d better protect the web.
I agree, but assuming it stays free, what do we do with it? I meet so many rubes who get their information from Fox News and CNN. How do we take those networks down? How do we get the Jane Hamshers and Josh Marshalls of the world into every living room at dinner time?
This is a pretty eye-opening document. I don’t know much about AEI. What is their deal anyway? A Scaife funded gig? What’s their “hidden” agenda?
It seems like if you took this document, the PNAC papers, and some fruitloop tome on controlling the “morality” of Americans by owning the judiciary, we’d have the last 5 years described to a “t”
Well, funny how these things happen. In reply to a post over at Digby’s place about why the media is buying the administration spin about the Porter Goss resignation, I posted this.
Why is anyone mystified by why this happens and continues to happen? This is an administration known for buying “journalists”. Who is to say they aren’t buying editors and the owners of the media as well.
The press isn’t that motivated by cocktail weenies. Like the Bush administration, the media are motivated by the continuing desire of a few cabals to control the media via legislation that favors the concentration of information and therefore power and wealth in the hands of a few powerful players. This is truly “The Club”.
Not stated as elegantly as this post, but I think we are on the same page.
We could stay in Iraq forever, or we could get behind a solid plan to get out that has been put on the table. Tom Hayden asked journalist Goerge Packer the other day on Huff Po is he favors “the war forever?”
I for one am tired of this war. How about the rest of the liberal blogosphere? Maybe we should listen to this guy:
“Our challenge today is to speak out so loudly that Washington has no choice but to make choices worthy of the sacrifice of our neighbors here at home and our troops all around the world.
When we protested the war in Vietnam some would weigh in against us saying: “My country right or wrong.†Our response was simple: “Yes, my country right or wrong. When right, keep it right and when wrong, make it right.†That’s our mission – to get off our rear ends – go out – and make it right today.” –
http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=2891
I have to say the quality of the posting here today has been top-drawer. One of our best days ever, and I’m sure Christy would join with me in saying that was largely due to the outstanding efforts of Howie, Matt O. and now Pach. I really, really appreciate the opportunity to be able to sit here and read this stuff. It’s amazing.
I’m sorry, I meant Heritage Foundation in above questions.
When Heritage published this document, it gained the notice of the establishment media, who looked on with their typical horse race attendant glee to see how events would unfold. Remember, this was very shortly before the new administration came in with the phony White House vandalism scandals, lapped up by an eager media.
Brilliant post, Pach. The courtier class, most vividly exposed in Colbert’s “Emperor’s New Clothes” moment, has to go — and when folks like Klein, McCurry, Howell and Brady start going ballistic the way they have been, you know they see the writing on the wall.
Whether the journalism version of the Rapture actually comes to pass or not is an open question — but they know goddamn well we’re on to them.
Jane 21 Valley Girl 26
Actually, I believe Jane was right the first time:
http://www.house.gov/house/Contract/CONTRACT.html
So was it fewer than ten years for the Heritage stink tank to come up with this diabolical plan? The quotation Jane gives at #29 is almost creepy, scary what they were able to pull off.
neuro:
I think VG was pointing out the more poetic, and therefore more true, rendering of the phrase.
Pachacutec 43: Aaarrrggghh. I am too slow tonight. Sorry, VG
I wonder if we could set up our own “planks” like the Heritage foundation did for Newter. Only real ones that aren’t a sham. Sorta shop ‘em around the net for concensus.
BTW, FDL is doing a bangup job in spanking the media. They try to dismiss it as a nuisance, like a swarm of gnats, but hey, It’s always tough arguing with someone who knows what they are talking about.
You guys rawk.
Wow, Pachacutec – that’s one powerful piece! I’m printing it out and saving it – thank you very much!
Now OT – I’m posting here what I could find about the Sunday Talk Shows tomorrow:
This Week with George – Dianne Feinstein, Saxby Chambliss, Howard Dean, Tom DeLay. Roundtable: Martha Raddatz, Katrina vanden Heuvel, George Will
Face the Nation – John McCain and I don’t know who else
Meet the Press – Nancy Pelosi*
Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer – Rep. Jane Harmon, Sen. Pat Roberts, Mike Leavitt, HHS Secretary
*Nancy might be very interesting – dkos has a diary up on a new WaPo article that quotes her extensively about what the dems will do when we take over Congress – here’s the link:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/5/6/231052/1883
Urban Pirate #35: Where was AEI mentioned above. I don’t see it?
American Enterprize Institute started out as a center-right mainstream thinktank that did respectable work. Still some of that old AEI around (Norman Ornstein, who Redd-Hedd-Smith has linked to a few times). But some neocons got control and turned it into a neocon money mill. And AEI has gotten into promoting (not disinterestedly discussing, but promoting, IMHO) some real junk science like The Bell Curve.
I think of CATO as an extreme libertarian bunch, and kind of looney. I think they are earnest, but many so fanatical that I would never trust any report from them unless I could check every word and calculation and reference. I read one thing by them that was a wholesale attack on public health as a threat to liberty and free enterprise. They also argued public health was junk science and tried to show many of its methods were unsound. But it was clear from the analysis that the authors thought it was OK to divide by zero, so, well, what can you say?
I think I read one of the heads of the Heritage Foundation say that they were more of a thinktank middleman. THey didn’t do much original research. They repackaged AEI, Hoover, and CATO stuff that they agreed with for policy makers.
An investigation of all these right wing thinktanks is needed. I think many of them have turned into dishonest racket.
Parachutec, great analysis. Please take this a step further. Personnel is policy applies in all businesses, not just government. Media is a business, and hires and promotes people who will “take direction well” with regard to policy, just as any business will. That’s why we see the same story lines playing out over and over again. Even Digby wonders why the media do this or that, trying to understand the motives of reporters, pundits, and the like. But of course, they are employees of large organizations.
All employees of large organizations adhere to corporate policy if they want to stay employed, get promoted, and the like. Personnel as policy applies especially to media–wintes Adam Nagourney, Bumiller, Richard Cohen, etc. Bush is a creation of big business and big media is big business. Corporate policy is everything.
I think a substantual number of the right will do a “Bill Kristol’ and try to remain”credible” as the remainder find our how slimy their companions are.Its looking like crash and burn time now.I worry that in its collapse,it will make recovery to a saner time impossible.
Wow, Pach. The words ring out as if from a contemporary Tom Paine. Excellent.
Pach, great piece, and so weighty for late-nite! All day there have been interesting, well-sourced pieces. Thanks to you, Jane, Christy, Matt O, and Howie! The excellent guests have not only given our hosts a bit of a break, but they’ve done some wonderful writing and analysis.
It’s been hard to stay away. My laundry room looks like I take in laundry from the whole neighborhood!
Part of the Right Wing plot to take over the country includes training little wing nuts as journalists, and then getting them jobs in the media. Cliff May is a perfect example — he was an editor at the Rocky Mountain News for a while, then moved onto other opportunities.
Wing Nut Central also trains little politico wannabes — John Andrews, former GOP Senate Majority Leader, is one of these. Teach ‘em their wing nut chops, spread ‘em around the country, and get them elected.
Jon Caldera, a perfect Wing Nut Think Tank SquawkingBot if ever there was one, never misses a beat in condemning all things that benefit the common good. When the Light Rail System was being built in Denver, he called it a boondoggle and a ripoff and a waste of taxpayer money that would never be used. When it opened, it was an immediate success — so much so, they didn’t have enough trains to meet the demand. Jon Caldera didn’t miss a beat — he immediately excoriated the planners for not anticipating the demand.
Wing Nuts — Lying to America for any occasion.
mercury @ 40 –
“but they know goddamn well we’re on to them”
yeah merc, all this bleating the past few weeks a harbinger, culminating with Colbert the wave forms, been hearing about the pliant media from establishment types all week – and just in time for Helen’s book to be launched – and look at all that kid at TPM uncovered – last week they weren’t giving much love to Shuster and his Plame/Iran confirmation – but look how much they’ve had to talk about us with Goss -
Burn the fuck down these repuke think tanks
enough is the fuck enough of this BULLSHIT
these professional overpaid idiot mischief makers now cook up operation let’s destroy iran too, and who cares about millions more dead, $20/gal gas, la la la
when is it time to physically destroy this mechanism
Well, kell frickin’ scary surpreeze! Headline at rawstory:
NYT Sunday: Goss Firing Just First Step in Overhaul of CIA
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0506.html
Ok, I’ll go with mediagovernmental complex, though my preference is military-entertainment complex. Seems more accurate.
Kristol can run, but like any garden slug, he leaves a slimy trail.
But you’re right: once some sensible people take over to begin to set the country right, many will be so busy they’ll lose track of the criminal absconders. We can’t let that happen.
You can bet we’ll be accused of insane preoccupation with the past, consumed by vindictive, unbalanced hate. But no Nixon pardons, bygones be bygones this time. No more liberal mercy. This time, we play for keeps.
Semblance, I don’t know the answer to that.
I think people, on the whole, don’t like being lied to.
I think Faux news is a decent example. It was the first propaganda channel, and as such, actually fooled a lot of people for a while.
Their ratings have dropped like a rock though, as people realize that was they say isn’t “fair and balanced” or even necessarily true.
For instance, NBC, as we speak, has a skit on SNL making fun of Colin Powell and Condi. It’s not very funny, but the unvarnished message is “Trust you on Iran? Not after all you lied about last time”. People are (rightfully) pissed about the deception. Maybe just because it makes them (me) pay attention when they (I) would rather be distracted by something else.
Fabulous post – many thanks. I’ve been wondering for years why all the rich people (think Soros) who talk progressive don’t buy out Fox and turn it into a progressive network. More useful than everything else they pour money into. And Hugh, what makes you think the W crew have been incompetent at exercising power? Seems to me they’ve been horrifyingly competent at exercising power. Who else could have wiped out our Constitution in a few short years? Finally, if everyone who counts himself a Dem cancelled his subscriptions to the WashPost and any cable network including Fox (I don’t have a television and am not sure Fox is on cable, but you get the point), maybe we’d see some changes.
yeah, military entertainment has a better ring to it…more entertaining.
media governmental sounds like a video broadcast of the local city council.
Newt and the Exterminator certainly had their plans for personal enrichment in place before the 1994 election. After all, Newt, who had forced Jim Wright out of his Speaker position over a questionable $50,000 book deal, turned around and sold Fox to a foreigner, Rupert Murdoch (changes in the law were needed to permit him to own American media) for a $4,200,000 advance. Newt had to repudiate that later, but I’m sure the Murdochs found some way to ease his pain.
As for the Exterminator, his claims that prosecutors are trying to criminalize politics are belied by the real state of affairs: he and his gang were bent on applying criminal methods to politics.
Pach… my, oh, my.
Yes, the Bushies came in with a vengenance. What I’ve read of Barbara Comstock illuminates some of the worst traits of these insular, arrogant, ruthless, smarmy churls. To me, that woman exemplifies hubris.
I spent several years sitting on a commission in my region, “serving” with people who contribute vast sums to the RNC.
The most influential members of that commission were there to keep an eye on legislation and make sure that it was written to favor their industry. These extremely wealthy people ASSUME that the role of government is to approve their contracts, approve their permits, and otherwise rig the system in their favor. Did the local politicians revamp the commission? Hell, no. They let their staff do the bidding of the worst, most predatory, most selfish on that group.
In other words, even the electeds — the people who in theory are ’supposed’ to be looking out for the rest of us, basically oversaw, enabled, and feebly accommodated a system DESIGNED to skew $$ to the already wealthy. I honestly do not think the electeds had the integrity, toughness, or moral clarity to stand up for the public — and those few who tried got shot down damn fast.
In an effort to tie your post to some of what I understand of Lakoff’s work, it’s as if we are living in a country where far too few people have the sort of “mental models” to even conceptualilzed ’shared responsibility’ or “public good”.
Most of the people that I sat in long meetings with are (like Bush, Rove, the rest of us Boomers) post WWII brats who grew up in a very affluent culture, VERY focused on “me” and “my McMansion” and “MY car(s)” and MY career. It’s all about me, all the time.
And I would argue that the political culture has reflected, and enabled, a lot of this selfishness — Neocon politics is one twist on this affluent, selfish, arrogant, insular mindset. They all seem to assume that they ‘have earned’ millions — which is complete bullshit. But THE SYSTEM allows them to somehow delude themselves into thinking that investing $$ is somehow more important than nursing, teaching, fixing cars, etc….
These people have never encountered empty grocery shelves, they don’t have a f*cking clue where their food comes from, or how their medicines are made. They are selfish pigs, and they have been CELEBRATED for actions that are biologically untenable (clearing wetlands, paving farmlands… etc).
The cultural narratives have been shaped by the commercialization of every aspect of American life. We don’t have the option of buying “Wetlands” magazine at th store – it’s all about muscles, cars, porn, guns, or housing. I think the problems of “Personnel” will never even begin to change without better narratives that call total bullshit on this social neurosis.
So although I totally agree with your post, I’d go a step further and say, “how do you even get a handle on a situation that people are cognitively unprepared to even grasp and grapple with…?”
I have no answers, but partly as a result of watching shit go down, I sure have lots of questions. These are huge, systemic issues. And somehow, they stem from a sadly degraded narrative.
Bush likes to allude to the trials and triumphs of great presidents, hoping we’ll conclude that he will one day be ranked among them. He even slides Truman into the mix.
One thing about Truman. He knew what he was looking at, and his words at the “Whistlestop Speech” (28 Sept. 1948) are just as relevant today. Parachutec’s post reminded me of this:
“I want you to analyze this situation. This campaign has just one issue, it’s the special interests against the people—just the special interests against the people.
“The Democrats stand for the people, and always have stood for the people. The Republicans have always stood for special interests, and they haven’t changed a bit.
“Don’t let them fool you with their slick talk, because if they get back in control of the Congress of the United States and the Presidency, too, the people of this country will be in an awful fix.”
Yes, we will. Must. Not. Happen.
Is the Bush presidency now the Hindenberg Presidency?
-GSD
readerofthetealeaves:
There are perhaps some answers to your question in the link I’ve google bombed as the “common good.” Have a read if you have not checked it out already. They’ve done the polling.
Slime Patrol Updates from TPM:
Several new ‘Hookergate’ details out in a new story in the Times.
The House Committee on Homeland Security plans to investigate the questionable $25 million worth of contracts the Department of Homeland Security.
DHS spokesman Larry Orluskie maintains that the contract is “just perfect.”
Federal investigators have apparently interviewed prostitutes involved in the Wilkes-Wade parties.
Too true, Too true… But I wouldnt being saying that out loud quite yet. Dean was saying similar things during the primary and they gutted him.
CatelynK,
If only EVERY Dem, could stop with their ego-mania (Hear me Joe, Joseph, Hillary, Nancy, and CHuck?) and say JUST THAT.
“I want you to analyze this situation. This campaign has just one issue, it’s the special interests against the people—just the special interests against the people.
“The Democrats stand for the people, and always have stood for the people. The Republicans have always stood for special interests, and they haven’t changed a bit.
“Don’t let them fool you with their slick talk, because if they get back in control of the Congress of the United States and the Presidency, too, the people of this country will be in an awful fix.â€
Thanks for the chat and commentary, folks. I’m off to bed and will catch up with further comments or questions tomorrow.
Pax vobiscum.
OT Hindenburg trivia:
It was the aluminum paint on the skin that caused the catastrophic fire, not the hydrogen.
Somebody get a screen shot. Headline over at WaPo: “White House set to tap Hayden.”
Thanks Wesgpc.
Scary, all these bullshit factories plotting all day how to scam the people. How to get the populace to vote against their economic self-interest.
Uh…Clem, I prefer to remember May 6th as my older son’s birthday! But he will get a kick out of knowing about the Hindenberg. ;->
I can’t stop looking at that Hindenburg visual. O the humanity truly. But what a relatively innocent age, hydrogen, oops, if we’d only known. Compare and contrast to photo of plane about to hit WTC south tower. A truly creepshow non-innocent calculated age we’re in now. Cheney and Chimpy freakin masturbate to images of 9/11, the best day of their lives, their triumph.
GSD# 65 – how about ‘The Putrefied Flesh Presidency ?
reader of tea leaves # 63 – nice shootin’ tex
btw have been amusing myself for the last 10 minutes hearing yet again that it will be a Negroponte/Rumsfield death match -oooh, who to root for, the loss of either one further weakens the Chimp . hmmm, my initial money is on Negroponte, but he may actually be more dangerous in terms of the blackness he could bring – and think about that, with no re election worries, he could position himself as the new Bush’s Brain – Karl Who ?, I meet lots of guys . . .
I know, I know, Jane’s prescience on the wounded coyote looms large, but I’ll probably enjoy the shit out of these two beasts going at each other- omg, off topic, sorry
I hope Pach does some more posts along this line. I think the recent victories of the radical reactionary ideology has very deep roots in the way people think. I hate to say this, since I am an economist, but I think developments in economics and political science in 1950s and 60s either were congenial to reactionary thinking or presented ripe targets for abuse and were consciously co-opted by powerful reactionary forces.
The laissez-faire market ideology and bogus scientism of social sciences has had a bad effect. I can give one simple example. One of the big appeals of corporations is limited liability. Stockholders are not liable for all the damage a corporation does, but only for the amount of money they put into the corporation. That is not how it works for a person. But I have heard supposed business and national affairs pundits justifying letting corporationa get away with anything anb everything, and justifying that by saying “the stockholders bear all the risk and the financial markets say they must be compensated†Well, no they don’t bear all the risk. Anyone who deals with a corporation is exposed to risk because a corporation can cause a lot of harm and only be liable for a fraction of the damage. Anyone who says the stockholders bear all the risk is not qualified to teach an intro business or economics course. But some how reactionary propaganda like this sells well in an age where an extreme free market ideology is almost worshipped.
Another example is that some modern results in economic theory can be misinterpreted to mean that a concept such as social welfare or the common good does not exist :it is a self-contradictory illogical concept that should be swept into the dustbin of history. Now this is just a mistaken interpretation of modern economics, but lots of policy wonks with half-baked training in economics and political science believe it is true. It is a fundamental part of their world view. Now, look how important the idea of the “common good†is in Pach’s post above.
There powerful intellectual circles in the US where the term common good is just dismissed as an illogical concept. It would only be used by ignorant people or innumerate leftists, or numerate dishonest leftists with a hidden agenda.
So I think some of the mediagovernmental complex is about corporate influence and power, and cynical manipulation, but it is also about earnestly held worldviews that are in fashion. I think folks fighting against reaction have to contend with those as well.
I think earnest fanatics are more dangerous in some ways, and harder to defeat than cynical manipulators. I think both are at work here. And both have to be attacked.
From the WaPoo:
The recent White House shake-up was an attempt to jump-start the administration and boost President Bush’s rock-bottom approval ratings, but have those efforts come too late to salvage the presidency? A prominent GOP pollster thinks that may be the case.
“This administration may be over,” Lance Tarrance, a chief architect of the Republicans’ 1960s and ’70s Southern strategy, told a gathering of journalists and political wonks last week. “By and large, if you want to be tough about it, the relevancy of this administration on policy may be over.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00909.html
The recent White House shake-up was an attempt to jump-start the administration and boost President Bush’s rock-bottom approval ratings, but have those efforts come too late to salvage the presidency? A prominent GOP pollster thinks that may be the case.
“This administration may be over,” Lance Tarrance, a chief architect of the Republicans’ 1960s and ’70s Southern strategy, told a gathering of journalists and political wonks last week. “By and large, if you want to be tough about it, the relevancy of this administration on policy may be over.”
A new poll by RT Strategies, the firm headed by Tarrance and Democratic pollster Thomas Riehle, shows that 59 percent of Americans disapprove of Bush’s job performance, while 36 percent approve — a finding in line with other recent polls.
Tarrance said it would be extremely difficult for any president to bounce back this late in his administration and reassert influence on Capitol Hill when his approval rating barely exceeds his party’s base support and half of all adults surveyed said they “strongly disapprove” of his performance. An overwhelming 73 percent of independents disapprove of Bush’s performance, and two-thirds of those “strongly disapprove.”
The new poll of 1,003 adults was conducted April 27-30 (after Bush had picked a new chief of staff, budget director and press secretary) and was released at a conference sponsored by the Cook Political Report. It contains plenty of other bad news for Bush and the Republican Party, and suggests that the growing unpopularity of the Iraq war may be turning this year’s midterm congressional elections from local to national issues.
Forty-eight percent of respondents said they would like to see the Democrats back in control of Congress, while 37 percent want Republicans to remain in charge. The war looms large as a concern of voters, the poll shows, along with jobs, health care, gas prices and immigration. Combating terrorism — long the president’s strong suit — is far less of a concern.
Thirty percent of those surveyed said they will vote for a candidate for Congress specifically to express opposition to Bush, while 16 percent said they will vote for a candidate to express their support for the president. Half said Bush will not be a factor in their voting.
“We will have a referendum on Iraq for the first time in ‘06, and the ‘08 election may be similar,” Tarrance said. The two years “are going to be relatively bundled together because of Iraq.”
Gore Displays a Midas Touch
GW Clusterfuck has faint life only until the midterms are over. Until then- he is still strangely relevant- but only in a negative way.
He still has the ability to lose congress for his party. After the elections- he will likely be ignored for two years- unless there are hearings on his crimes- in which case he may be listened to briefly.
No duck has ever been lamer.
Nobody knows ya when yer down and out eh Clusterfuck?
wesgpc — I too hope Pach does more along these lines, I think it’s a superb and eye-opening post.
Did you catch the Greenwald/Goldberg exchanage (such as it was) today? Relates to a bit of what you’re saying:
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot…..tance.html
I always just assume the conservative “idealoges” are selfish and cynical at heart but just not self-aware enough to realize it and so must gussy it up a bit for the benefit of their own self-image.
wesgpc at #77 — your post totally blew my mind. At one time, I was a ‘political science’ major and thought there was some science involved there. It wasn’t until I had to contend with chem and bio that I got a clue about the fact that science DOES NOT “prove” anything…it’s always a sequence of ‘hypotheses’… anyway, at the risk of getting too technical in this response, I really want to convey that I think you have hit on several incredibly insightful points.
And I also think they fit right in with what Pach is saying about how it is that all these ijits earnestly DO believe that Right is right
The political science courses tend to be about Game Theory or other pseudo-scientific crap. Their research criteria are weak… they don’t distinguish between a “study” (which is often a collection of opinion) and actual “research” in which variables have to be identified, subject groups have to be identified and held to a reasonable basis of comparison…. I’d best stop at this point lest I go on for hours on this theme.
Suffice to say that I think you make some really important, critical points. Wow!
To underscore your point about corporations… all those mega-millionaires on my commission…. every one of those bastards has multiple LLC’s [Ltd Liability Corp] set up — one for each of their projects. That way, if something goes under, they get to keep their mansions, their boats, their Citicorp stock… the very notion of an LLC **protects them from legal and financial risk.** And these are the very same assholes who whine about how gov’t is ‘too regulatory’ and how The Market will solve every bloody problem.
You have made many good points — all of which tie right into Pach’s original post.
Database calls in other browser — must zoom away!
Thanks, Pach–great stuff. I haven’t yet scanned all the comments, but the question that comes to my mind is–yes, but how? And this refers to the media part of the complex.
It will be, ironically enough, easier to get rid of the governmental part, the criminal GOP and the vichy Democrat, so long as investigations and indictments continue–between the witness box and the ballot box, they can be rooted out.
But how do we bring about regime change in the corporate media conglomerates? What kind of pressure will be sufficient to force the CEOs of those companies to allow news editors who believe in the common good to come on board and do their jobs? That seems, to me anyway, a much more vexing issue.
I think that the reason this post is so powerful is that it explains and attacks the whole system of right wing conservative ideology that got us into this mess. The Democrats in general and progressives in particular would do well to start to attack Republicans and conservative philosophy in a systematic manner.
Democrats should be relentless in tying Iraq, Katrina, the destruction of the middle class, high gas prices, and more to republican and conservative rule. They should quit worrying about any one particular election horserace and begin taking the long view by identifying and taking apart the misery that the right wing has put us in.
http://apoeticjustice.blogspot…..thing.html …Teach us the facts!
Jane: thanks for the link to Greenwald. I’m getting ready for to fly off on the red eye, but will read that when I can. As to your question about sincerity, as an economist, I can absolutely tell you that 1) there is an interpretation of recent high-toned academic economics and political science that plays right into the reactionary ideology, and 2) many people with not very rigorous educations in these areas very very sincerely believe in that interpretation. I have seen it with my own eyes. I have seen lots of policy people with a bug eyed and outraged fanaticism that just cannot be faked. I think a lot of applied policy people at places like AEI and Hudson and Hoover (with some shining exceptions) are like that.
I think you are right too that there is cynical manipulation. Take the example of business pundits on TV saying that corporate shareholders bear all the risk and deserve whatever breaks society can give them. Ask Pach, who has taught at Wharton, –that is totally contradictory to the frickin beginning of intro business and econ courses. How can something like that happen? Gotta be some people who know better but want that kind of misinformation to go out.
What the mix is, I don’t know. Wish I could find a good guide to how it all fits together.
I’m afraid you are right that the media divas are cynically corrupt. I don’t know how to explain Russert, a supposed universal policy expert and reporter who I’ve heard jeer Dems, saying the public aint interested in detailed facts numbers, and then criticize them for not having specific plans and arguments. It’s like the Big Sleep, where Bogie says Canino is gonna kick him the teeth and the punch him for mumbling, or something like that. Aren’t reporters and journalists supposed to like facts and numbers and be trained in how make people understand and get interested in them? And ain’t Russert one high trained and very high paid journalist? That kind of thing gets me so perplexed.
Excellent post, but I think your proposed remedy — regime change — is insufficient to deal with the stated problems. Rolling back the power of the mediagovernmental complex will require structural reorganization such that media power is no longer in the hands of a few corporate managers and boards of directors.
An appointed body like the FCC is insufficient to control the enormous power now inherent in electronic media ownership. We need some kind of proportional representation in the media power structure.
Though such a proposal may sound extreme, or totalitarian, or even absurd, consider the alternative. Leaving the current system in place means the end of democracy in this country. Then, as electronic media continues its gains in pervasiveness, similar loss of democracy can be expected in many other countries as well.
I am arguing that we are now compelled to give up the notion that “the press” is not effectively part of the government. At present it certainly is, with power that is now arguably greater than, for example, that of the U.S. Congress.
wesgpc — pick up the Boehlert book, it’s quite good on the topic of how the media so easily started walking in lockstep with the right wing. It was definitley the path of least resistance.
readerOfTeaLeaves #83:
Ha ha, yes I agree. That is why I went into economcs statistics -I wanted a trade. But you are correct. Modern economic and political science theories are so abstract and general, you can take any history of events that has happend and apply the theories to explain them. But you can’t use them to predict much. Most sciences understand that this is not a sign of real strong robust theory.
And then both sciences over interpret empirical results. Say you do some statisics on individual purchase decisions in the market -buying cars, or when to retire, or how much to invest. Say you reject the null hypohesis that your theory explains nothing at all. That is good. But the statistics say your theory only explains 10% or 15% of what all happened. Well for most sciences, that is kind of so so, and a mild, very mild confirmation of the theory, and prolly more work is needed before we pop out the champaign. But in econ and poli science, that shows that theory is damn great and explains everything.
Not all economists and polisci people are guilty of this. But some of the ideological think tank people are.
J: thanks. I gotta run. I think some one said that Lapdogs is on the book club list. I will get and look forward for it at FDL.
Uh…Clem….oh shit.
My mother was born in Iowa exactly 69 years ago tonight. Same day the Hindenberg blew up. Yes.
And I forgot to call her. I’m in deep shit now.
Thanks for the reminder.
urban pirate (#69) and others on truman’s quote: that is a great theme. can we rightfully claim that all demo congresspeople are and have been committed to this belief? i’m afraid not, but we must soldier on just the same.
pach: you’re spot on with your post. how do we execute? this whole corruption of the MSM started happening in the seventies. at least it gained momentum then and reagan’s guys “drowned it in the bathtub”.
i think we’re going to need a miracle. what you are calling for is one tall order.
Boehlert pegs the Swift Boating very well per the excerpt that was on HuffPo the other day.
Check this out http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=2880
“No one could have imagined them taking a plane, slamming it into the Pentagon, into the World Trade Center, using planes as a missile.” — Condoleezza Rice
“As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!!!” — Arthur Carlson
Military-Industrial Complex Media-Governmental Complex
Pach – that’s a brilliant and inspired analogy – in many ways.
What a post-n-thread !! This place is amazing and addicting in a inspired way, (except for laundry). If your looking up at the Hindenburg RUN!
leslie (#84): short of bloody revolution, which i presume we are all against, it may well be impossible. the true power in this country is behind the scenes, not in the white house and congress. but elections are all we have to legimately work with.
a friend in england is fond of saying “elections don’t really amount to much. if they did we wouldn’t be allowed to have them.”
Erm, Gosso has AIDS?
wesgpc 77
i 4 1 am speachless, thank you and where is your book?
revolution
Pach –
Thanks for this powerful and amazing synthesis! And thanks to the whole fdl community for this discussion – y’all have a bunch of great bunches o’ neurons!
Jane, thx for the Greenwald link. Very, very good — and certainly timely! I hope it is picked up by the MSM.
wespeg – your point about “lame education = vulnerability to crap science” helps explain the intellectually perverted Think Tankers. A belief in crap science would make one vulnerable to thinking it is somehow acceptable to ‘invent, or develop **pseudo evidence** to make a case for war (This the complete opposite of how a solid, peer-reviewed researcher would collect evidence). ‘
The social sciences don’t require students to grapple with reality — not in the same sense that medical researchers and biologists do.
Someone with a candy-ass education (whether expensive, or not) is more susceptible to junk science, and is more easily duped by pseudo evidence.
As for the MSM… they’re going to implode. The 20-somethings aren’t going to sit around and listen to Timmeh or Tweety or any other ‘expert.’ At least, not the 20-somethings that I know. I think they’re panicked, but that’s another thread.
102 rotl
I look forward to other thread. You really think they are panicked? I hope so.
good nite
Just staggered home, and I’ve gotta say, wow, Pach, just fucking wow. This is so right on and it’s so necessary that we get it. Is there any way to distill this for the politically incurious?
“…even though in 1994 he was fourteen years old, doubtless newly attentive to the plenteous treats of Onan…”
That cracked me up, I’m thinking that’ll send a lotta folks to the google machine.
when putsch comes to shove…
another fine manifesto, Pach. thanks.
Y’know, looking at Pach’s post, some of the comments, ruminating…..
One of the hallmarks of this administration is going to be – ten years from now – that they failed to take good advice from anyone or any entity anywhere. That is, outside the office of, you guessed it, Dick Cheney. And he has been the leader in this administration at having a penchant for disregarding solid advice, no matter where it came from. Even worse than Rumsfeld’s similar inclination.
It hasn’t mattered on what subject, Cheney’s people have had more oversight than most presidents, let alone bucket of warm piss vice presidents.
Heritage Foundation, Cato Institute, PNAC? If they recommend using experienced party loyalists instead of fawning hacks, take the hacks.
CIA, NSA? If they recommend analysis procedures which weigh ALL the evidence on any issue, create new analysis groups to filter their input toward your preferred outcome.
DIA? Pat Rummy on the back, get your own crew in there running a new office – we’ll call it the Office of Special Plans – and make sure there’s a direct conduit back to the VP coven, uh, claven.
Energy policy? Hold secret meetings at which you pin those oil, gas, coal, nuke, corn and electro nerds down to an Enron-designed pyramid scheme and use the power of the Federal government to keep your sweet deal secret for 20 years. Then, disregard the best advice these so-called captains of industry shared with you.
As so many chickenhawks come home to roost, more and more people on the right who have dignity and honesty are going to be loking for somewhere to turn. We need to be thinking about tha.
Good post, Pach. And Jane’s right, too:
Good day at firedoglake.
well op99, staggeringly….
remember a while back you said something about ducks flying upside down? I replied along the lines of
66do: likewise
*ztiF*
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Social sciences:
As a refugee from the cargo cult (left my PhD program in experimental psychology–at a top school) social sciences consider themselves not as psuedo-sciences, but as developing ones. The birth of psychology as taught in colleges today is with Helmholtz measuring the first reflex in the 19th c., in many ways reinforcing this “new science” image. No Socrates, no Descartes, no Freud even. Helmholtz.
Trust me, it is completely unfashionable for your work not to be numerically quantifiable, in the social sciences. Doesn’t sound so bad, huh? It just ends up like that old joke about the drunk looking for his keys, forever searching under the lamppost. Afraid of shadows (interactions, case studies, logical thinking, narratives) they very precisely measure a very well illuminated nothing at all.
I have no idea why my post is in italics.
It’s kinda freakin’ me out…
punaise,
My son’s girlfriend’s mom took the four of us and other friends to this place tonight:
http://www.flybynightclub.com/
If you ever come to Alaska, get in touch. You deserve to be taken to this sleazy, raunchy, incredibly witty dive for all the joy your puns have brought the firedoggies.
Eisenhower was pro business/military as they come and apionted people as such!
words mean nothing.
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kristinejoy:
A couple of days ago, I thought I’d messed the thread up. Who knows? I refuse to use the meta-tools here or elsewhere.
http://tinyurl.com/a6erq
Impeach Impeach Impeach
Maybe for a different discussion. But I’m curious about the implications of this bit from this AP article:
Bingo.
You you can read military into the government portion, and throw some agents and some extra propaganda and psy-ops into the media part.
Yes, punaise, I remember that, I was just mallard green with envy at the way your mind works so I waddled off in a huff. And don’t be expecting an east coaster to compete at 4:21 am.
have no idea why my post is in italics.
It’s kinda freakin’ me out…
italics?
Has anybody posted how we can undo an inadvertant thing like underlines or bolds or italics, etc?
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I don’t have much to say but usually it’s more than 120
first night of the year that I’ve been able to notice that it isn’t going to get dark tonight. I wish it were warmer, but, hey, if I stick around long enough, it will be.
nite all…
fitz?……………!!!
Certain doom since they essentially are pimps and whores – just like Saddam in at least one major way…you are with the party and bought – or you are nobody and can/should be crushed. Using their Southern Strategy racist strategy to try and make a red -v- blue class.
Blues need not apply.
And they want to take it down to everyone in a caste system below the ruling class. You can throw out the ballot, and you get the job, and the next on up gets the contract, etc. They also have been trying to pave all roads into Washington for themselves. Church leaders into there, their “scientists” into NIH, their former hacks the lobby hacks, the media who agree get the interview and champain perks.
Hope we can help people learn a bit of the truth, and see a bit of what happens when something is out of control (which we have been seeing – but I doubt it is sinking all the way in yet).
testing to see if putting in a closing tag (before any text) helps shut off the italics.
Jeez!
I didn’t put in any tags in my post, just took a long time in typing it. Too funny.
I guess these things happen in the EPU zone.
The conservative machine has been working for 35+ years.
We are much smarter….lets get our machine running in 35 days!
EPU’d
Did that work?
Fixed it.
This post is numbing, and worthy of reading and rereading. Thank you for these insights.
I think we have lost if we cannot engage young people in the fight. Many of us enraged by this administration are middle-aged. We have to grab and hold America’s youth, the way Reagan did years ago. It’s one thing that might help.
I have posted many comments saying that Hilary Clinton is the best candidate for President for 2008. Those comments are now inoperative.
To say that she is a “leader” who fails to lead is like saying that water runs of a duck’s back.
“He knows all this, of course, even though in 1994 he was fourteen years old, doubtless newly attentive to the plenteous treats of Onan.”
LMAO, wiping coffee and food particles off the keyboard in Barcelona.
Pach, you callin’ that boy a wanker?!
I’ve been saying this for 20 years, and I’m going to say it again: if Marx were alive today, he’d say, “screw the means of production, it’s the means of communication that the people need to control.”
And that’s why pushing back at the existing mass media, and making sure the Net stays neutral so DailyKos, TPM-Muckraker, and so forth don’t get sidetracked to the slow lane, is so important.
Good Morning all!
GREAT post Pach! And fabulous comments all along. Just one other point — political patronage increases, not decreases instability in government. Increases, not decreases efficiencies. Increases, not decreases, chances of political violence and even political assasinations (ask President Garfeld and Charles Guiteau). But we knew that….
PS, Pach, saw a great documentary on Machu Pichu last weekend….)
ck #67: Slime Patrol Updates from TPM:
Several new ‘Hookergate’ details out in a new story in the Times.
Here’s the link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05…..oref=login
A truly superb piece and frankly harrowing.
to add to wsgpc’s comment on corporatism, I want to post an excert from an op-ed by the economist William (I hope I remember his first name correctly) Greider in the 18 July 2005 NY Times that is absolutely chilling.
His thesis is essentially that the US govt. is run by and for corporate interests and that the result has been that debt has so escalated, having irrevocably turned the corner from a geometric to exponential growth curve, and that the buying power of the US citizen has been so undermined by the forces of globalization that the country is already headed for third-world status.
He stated frankly that this was the political/economic elite’s dirty secret, and that everyone knew but dared not state out loud that we are going to tank as a nation within a generation.
Accordingly Bush tax and economic policies are being driven to loot the treasury to provide a golden Noah’s arc for the monied/corporate class. Wage-earners are left too compete with China and India.
“American political debate is enveloped by the ideology of free trade,
but “free trade” does not actually describe the global economic system.
A more accurate description would be “managed trade” – a dense web of
bargaining and deal-making among governments and multinational
corporations, all with self-interested objectives that the marketplace
doesn’t determine or deliver. Every sovereign nation, the United States
included, uses its vast arsenal of policies to pursue its national interest.
But on the crucial question of how policy makers define “national
interest,” Washington stands alone. Western Europe, whatever its
problems, manages economic policy to maintain modest trade surpluses.
Japan manages to insure far larger surpluses in recessions (its export
income subsidizes inefficient domestic employers). China strives to
acquire a larger, more advanced industrial base at the expense of worker
incomes and bank profits. Germany and Japan, despite vast differences,
both manage to keep advanced manufacturing sectors anchored at home and
to defend domestic wage levels and social guarantees. When they do
disperse production and jobs overseas, as they must, they do so strategically.
By contrast, Washington defines “national interest” primarily in terms
of advancing the global reach of our multinational enterprises. Elites
are persuaded by the reigning orthodoxy that subsidiary domestic
interests will ultimately benefit too. The distinctive power of
America’s globalized companies is reflected in trade patterns. Nearly
half of American exports and imports are not traded in open markets -
the price auction idealized by neoclassical economics – but within the
companies themselves, moving materials and components back and forth
among their far-flung factories. A trade deficit does not show on the
company’s balance sheet, only on the nation’s. In recent years, much of
the trade deficit has reflected the value-added production and jobs that
companies moved elsewhere.
The United States is thus especially vulnerable to the downward
pressures on working-class wages that exist on both ends of the global
system. American producers are generally free – and even encouraged by
Washington – to shift production to low-wage locations. Companies
regularly use this cost-cutting technique as a competitive weapon
without regard to the domestic consequences. The practice works for
companies and investors, but not so well for a nation.
INDEED, the cumulative effects of retarding labor incomes worldwide
repeatedly threatens stagnation or worse for the entire system. Workers,
to put it crudely, cannot buy what the world can make. Too much capital
leads to the speculative “bubbles” that bounce around the world,
visiting financial crisis on rich and poor alike.
At a different moment in history, American leadership might have stepped
up to these disorders and led the way to solutions. If globalization is
to continue without encountering more crisis and random destruction,
governments must together shift the balance of power so labor incomes
can rise in step with rising productivity and profits. If the United
States is to avert its own reckoning, it must take decisive action to
draw firm limits on its exposure to trade deficits, that is, resign its
position as the open-armed buyer of last resort. In effect, Washington
would also reform its own national interest imperatives so that they
more closely resemble what other nations already embrace. Ultimately,
American remedial action may protect the global system from its own crisis – the moment when trading partners discover they have just lost their best customer.
But to describe plausible remedies is to explain why none are likely.
The webs of mutual interests connecting government, corporate boardrooms
and Wall Street are too deeply woven, as are habits of thought among
policy makers and politicians. So I do not expect anything fundamental
will be altered in time. We are going to find out if the dissenters are right.”
This is indeed the point. The republican party has been nothing more than criminal conspiracy since a few years into the Reagan administration, when the bloom of idealism was gone and conservative utopianism gave way to greed. It’s been a mafia-style “bustout” ever since – bleed it til its a bleached white corpse and then burn it for the insurance payout.
There will be no end to the the “tax cuts” and the corrupt contract funneling to cronies, at least until the time when these people are extirpated from power, but by then it will be too late. The culprits will be insulated from the resulting chaos by wealth so vast that the poverty, crime and nihilism that engulfs the middle-class will be nothing more to them than the inner city crack en is to your or me – remote and abstract.
Fantastic post, Pach.
ccobb 57 and puzzled 61:
Credit where due…the term “military-industrial-entertainment complex” was initially coined, satirically, by Jose Chung in a script for an episode of “The X-Files.” Another case of satire beating conventional wisdom to the truth, by a long mile.
What about the Oligarchy class in this country? Rush Limbaugh has constantly perched upon his 5%Tax payer Bravado hill as long as I can remember. The 2 party system is also to blame for concentrating power to its’ illustrious best. Tax policy is the hub. Think about it, if we standardized all the Driver’s License agencies accross the country, everyone who is here, gets a ID card, after coughing up a fingerprint and retinal scan, those folks would now be the winners of a new Social Security number and immediately be responsible for paying taxes. Rush knows this and is his worst fear, by taking away their tax stauts as just that a status, the playing field gets it’s star players watered down.I think the more people who bitch about taxes the better.
somebody above raised the spectre of President Hindenberg — I certainly hope this isn’t so! After all, it was indeed President Hindenberg that appointed Adolf Hitler to be the new German Chancellor…
I was also amused by the phrase ‘plenteous treats of Onan’ — it’s a gift that never stops giving…
btw, the comments in here reflect the need for what some dude named Ulyanov presciently called ‘the dictatorship of the proletariat’. That phrase is currently deprecated but the fundamental concept remains the same: people before profits!
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Fabulous new thread. You know what you have to do.
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new thread – old faces
*ilson46201,
Ha, ha. Beat ya!
Now go over there and Fitz.
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Brendan, #131: A wanker; yes, exactly.
Others have asked how we do this. I have no specific plan, other than first, that we progressives begin to make this argument more repeatedly and loudly across our alternate noise machine.
We talk about not letting Republican candidates run away form Bush and this government, but neither can we allow our news media to separate themselves from what they so clearly have wrought.
Hold them up to constant public attack and accountability, and make it personal at the editorial level. Name names.
Second, we must nurture, train and encourage progressives to infiltrate the ranks of the establishment media. That requires some campaigning and the development of infrastructures for training, even beyond the Columbia School of Journalism.
Wow Pach,what a post.I truly hope that we are riding out the last waves of this conservitive crap.Kristol and his ilk are pulling a rats on a sinking ship move,we’ve got to keep our eyes on them lest they pull the wooden stake from the foul undead heart of this criminal movement.
Nice photo,almost the Zeppiln 1 cover
NO! Not EPU’d again
Pachacutec,
Taking snark to new, almost hypoxic, levels:
sycophantic pecksniff power pundits
editorial limousine drivers of our current caste of political power whores
sewer rats of this symbiotic axis
newly attentive to the plenteous treats of Onan
And even a non snarky tip ‘o the hat to Professor Chomsky: manufacturers of consent
Great post, Pach. But I’ll tell you what. I’m not going to be sharpening up the old epitaph pencil for the headstone of the mediagovernmental complex gravesite just yet.
Nevertheless, please, Pach, keep up your manufacture of dissent.
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DMM yep. You’ve tumbled into the EPU’d Zone.
I’ll be here, though, FWIW.
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Military-entertainment complex was around on Indymedia and anarchist websites for years.
It’s good because it sums up the change since Ike from manufacturing to service industries.
We are obviously dealing here with Corporatism which was Mussolini’s preffered term for Fascism.
Now we are starting to hear from some Marxist scum I have a few words for them – Lenin did not fall from the sky and if we want Jacobin style terrorism we’ll let you know Okay!
Just don’t hold yr breath or let the door hit yr ass on the way out.
Fascism is as fascism does and Marxism turned dramaticaly fascist in 1918 – never again!
Also Marxism is a bourgeois managerial technocratic top-down philosophy that is not a good fit with the web. It has failed terribly in field tests and Libertarian socialism remains the gold standard with great works in 1917-20 in the Ukraine and 1936 in Spain to it’s everlasting credit.
Authoritarian socialism in the form of the bourgeois managerial ‘ experts’ and technocrats are a huge part of the problem we face today.
They are not, nor will they ever be part of the solution although individual Marxist’s maybe.
Marxists like John Holloway and SD Marcos.
To sum up death to god ,the state and the golden calf of Marxism – All power to the anarchists!
( and the FDLaker’s of course )
Fantastic post, Pach. FDL once again raises the bar.
I *heart* Katrina Vanden Huevel.
George Will on This Week said, “Now I know why they called it hurricane Katrina.”
Her guns were a blazin’!
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I tried to represent and look where it got me. It’s easier here.
Excellent post by Pach!
I *heart* CBS’s Bob Schieffer, too.
His closing commentary on Face the Nation this morning was on the dust-up over the Spanish version of our National Anthem. He mentioned that when people around the world, as Chinese youth did when they brought a paper mache replica of the Statue of Liberty into Tiananmen Square, appropriate our symbols and the values those symbols represent then that makes America strong.
Bob said that he doesn’t read Hebrew or Greek either, and he was really glad someone put the Bible into English. Otherwise he might have missed it altogether.
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LOL — thanks for the plug rusty.
I think that the !ztiF announcer of the EPU’d Zone, who ever that may be, should post exclusively in the Zone and not in a main comment thread. At least that’s the standard I’m holding for myself as this artistic experiment carries forward.
That logic follows from the premise that there really should be no blog-whoring at all in the main comment thread. The buddies of the blogger who posts as Patrick Fitzgerald are constantly buzzing around trying to drive traffic to that site. Many, yours truly one of the very first, have complained directly to this person noting that there’s not even a hint of a disclaimer anywhere on his site. A lot of FDL’ers are upset at this dude.
When TPTB created the Late Nite FDL format, they also, perhaps by virtue of the law of unintended consequences, created an addiiontal domain owing to the FDL culture of parallel, as opposed to serial, threading.
The EPU’d Zone has the potential to become a serial thread where ongoing daily activity could occur. I’ve already mentioned that it could become a welcoming place for newcomers, if the Zone was purposed for that by TPTB.
Now that you and I are having, for a few days now, an extended discussion here in the Zone, I’d ask you to keep a weather eye out for anyone wandering around a main comment thread dazed and confused.
Answer the question by linking to one of your posts here in the Zone. That way we can get persons to start to visit without mentioning the term EPU’d Zone in the main comment thread.
What do you think? Does that make any sense at all?
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sorry about the failure to close italics last night (108). I guess that’s the equivalent of leaving the toilet seat up….
J i O – you’re right. no thread whoring anymore from me. i just happened to be logging in to come here and there it was in front of me – a fresh new post by Redd. i couldn’t resist.
!ztiF. it’s all starting to make sense now…..
ET 111 – if I ever make it up AK-way, I’ll be certain to look you up. That night-spot sounds like a hoot – a no-holds-barred kind of place…
J i O, rusty, mui, et al – yours is a noble effort here in the land of stragglers – good work!
I adopted “ztiF” as a sign-off from LAte Nite, but it more symmetrically could be used in conjunction with “new thread” – the opposite of “Fitz”, i.e. any further comments are hereby in EPU territory.
(my personal attempted contribution to the lexicon – “EPUpia” – hasn’t seemed to resonate. oh, well)
I know I’m EPU’ed but Pach I wish I could read you in the LA Times in the morning, at least once a week. Your work is far better than most of the stuff they find worthy of publishing…I’d love to sit down to my morning Vit C drink and smart pills and find you on the opinion page.
And JiO, while it makes a lot of sense, it’s kinda virtual, and therefore (perhaps) difficult for many to grasp. EPU’ed FDL posts are a little like a worthy demonstration at a trade show but the product is no longer NEW! so everyone beats feet over the the NEW! booth. Then there’s those of us that barely have time to read the posts, let alone be on top of it enough to post our own timely, pithy comments. Sigh.
the only possible outcome of the wedding of the party of reconstruction with the party of jim crow is the modern republican establishment, corruption is all they have in common
Dear Senator,
I just finished watching Rep. Pelosi speak about the Democratic strategy for November on Meet the Press.
The response to questions about Iraq still sounds weak. It needs to be clear that this problem was created and exacerbated by the Bush Administration alone. The response should sound something more like:
“THE IRAQ WAR WAS NEVER GOING TO HAVE A HAPPY ENDING. ANY CHANCE THAT IT WOULD HAVE WAS BLOWN BY THE MISMANAGEMENT OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION IN THE FIRST 2 YEARS OF THE WAR. THERE WILL NOT BE A GOOD OUTCOME AT THIS POINT AND NO ONE REALLY EXPECTS ONE. THE DEMOCRATS ARE MERELY TRYING TO CUT OUR LOSSES.”
The Dems are still letting the media make this the Democrats’ fault somehow.
I had not realized there’s a nascent after hours EPU culture developing in some of these thread. LOL.
I hope I’m not too late to say thank you, Pachacutec. I found this post very insightful.
Pach – I think one of the first ways that we can bust up this aptly-named “mediagovernmental complex” is by forcing the big corporions to divest their media operations.
Since the Free Press is guaranteed by the Constitution, the Free Press must indeed be Free. Corporate self-interest, by its very nature and definition, compromises this Freedom, by placing profits into the media computation. Free Press must, by very definition and nature, be unshackled by the vices of profit motives. The Free Press’ primary and sole purpose must the be pursuit of truth, as envisioned – nay, as REQUIRED, by the Consitution.
And ALL Free Press must be placed on a level playing ground. No corporate advantage to anyone, so that everyone else cannot cry – ‘we need to be allowed to operate like them‘.
AirportCat says:
May 6th, 2006 at 9:08 pm
Love the graphic. Anyone here remember the “WKRP in Cincinnati†episode with the turkey drop? Remind you of anything?
“With God as my witness…..I swear I thought turkeys could fly.”
GREAT episode!
Pachacutec,
The term “after hours” might be more appropriate over at Billmon’s place. For the past two weeks or so, I’ve taken up blogsquatting in the EPU’d Zone of every day’s Late Nite FDL posting. Much less hectic back here.
I’ve traced back the Late Nite FDL format to March 1. I’ve tried twice to post a Late Nite FDL EPU’d Zone archives there but, because of the multiple links, the moderators kill it. And I’d like to know why! Do they trash my post just because they can?!
Come back and visit the Zone every once and a while, Pach. We’ve pretty much got the place to ourselves.
Once again, great post snark-dude.
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marksb yes it is a virtual place, and yes very few will get it. Let them scramble to keep up or just try get a word in edgewise on the main comment thread.
Anyway, “difficult to grasp” is kind of the non-intentional motif around FDLand. The problem is that our hosts don’t have the time nor the inclination to think much about the virtual spaces that are left in the wake of the headlong plunge of the entrained commentariat from old tired post to new hotness post.
So, until TPTB find the time to direct more dedication attention to the Zone, the Zone ours to play with as we see fit.
Don’t be a stranger. Perhaps you’ve got a favorite blog you’d like to plug, feel free to post it here in the EPU’d Zone. With the exception of self-blog-whoring, I think the Zone is a perfect place for posting personal favorites.
I’ve been reading Joseph Cannon lately. He’s got good stuff I don’t see in many other places.
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punaise thanks and sorry about that EPU meme floating flop.
I just want you to know that you can find the EPU’d Zone Archives here
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this just in……..
BERLIN (Reuters) – U.S. President George W. Bush told a German newspaper his best moment in more than five years in office was catching a big perch in his own lake and looking into it’s soul.
“You know, I’ve experienced many great moments and it’s hard to name the best,” Bush told weekly Bild am Sonntag when asked about his high point since becoming president in January 2001. “I would say the best moment of all was when I caught a 7.5 pound (3.402 kilos) perch in my lake,” he told the newspaper in an interview published on Sunday.
“In such a situation it takes a while before one understands what is happening,” Bush said. “I would say that this was the best moment, once I had the perch before my eyes. And I have to say I got a glimpse into it’s soul, into how it feels,” he said.
Senate leader Bill Frist, in a separate interview, said that although he had not seen a video of the angling, he expected the pond to be fully restocked.
Jane is trying some ad hoc thread shifting to keep the commentariat On-Topic for today’s book discussion.
Jane, this is why we have a EPU’d Zone! Direct that traffic here. Especially if you’re going to be doing the same kind of re-routing every Sunday.
Cheesh! What’s a guy gotta do?
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rusty
I love the image of the President fishing his freshly stocked pond coupled to the image of the Vice President hunting freshly stocked fields in Texas.
For both of them. Good times. The best of times.
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In Texas they have a saying: Give a man a fish and he’ll eat for a day. Stock a man’s pond and he’ll tell you a story about how big of a perch that he caught.
….why do I have the feeling that things are about to get real strange? I’m predicting a good week ahead for newshounds.
I think after the Right Wing Racists series, we got a lot of hate trolls leaving comments on dead threads. Stuff we don’t allow on this site. Accordingly, I think there’s a script now that deadens threads – they all have an expiration date.
Pachacutec,
Sounds too much like “cytokine storm” like reactions to me.
The cure is worse than the disease.
Don’t Fence Us Out!
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There is an agenda that ignores or considers less relevent whether right or left political ideologies are being advanced, but more importantly whether the arguments are reasonable, logical and humane.
Americans have an ideology, they are not in need of a right or left wing ideology; it is the protection of our rights, freedoms and opportunties. People sometimes forget that freedom in America was not given it was fought for, and the need to continue the fight goes on, because when and where people are not protecting it there are others who will be encroaching on it.
Some people are insatiable for power. It is these insatiable ones that the system of government was designed to protect the people from. That is, at least, one intent of the Constitution. There would be no reason for it to exist if not to protect the powerless from the powerful, the slow from the fast, and the charitable from the greedy. Although, the concept is only useful if one begins with the premise that America belongs to all Americans, and that all, (OK–most) of its citizens have dignity.
A political organization cannot long inspire its members if it begins with the idea that all men are corrupt. Because all men are corrupt they deserve the negative circumstances that they find themselves in. It is every man for himself. The coward’s way out. It is an excuse that pemits them to say that they were being prudent.
Beginning with such a perspective the only path open is down. It appears to be the perspective of the right wing and the Republican Party.
They have had the opportunity to advance their incredibly short-sighted policies, and they have failed. It’s time for some fresh blood.
If experience and so-called stature bought the American people the current situation; would it be possible to do worse.
What the neo-con Republicans have done to America over the past thirty years (after Nixon) amounts to turning America into a giant Communist “re-education camp.”
Our liberal democracy had become too “liberal” for them, so they decided to “re-educate” all of us in the proper, superior neo-conservative way.
Thus, they started buying up and consolidating their control over the mainstream print and broadcast media, while gutting the Fairness Doctrine.
They started buying up and consolidating their control over the radio airwaves, leading to neo-con-run companies like Clear Channel promoting Christian rock crap on radio stations around the country.
They’ve pushed for turning our public schools (or their alternative voucher schools) into “re-education camps” aimed at our nation’s children.
And on college campuses, a similar “re-education” campaign has been launched by neo-conservatives like the “Operation Yellow Elephant” College Republicans and neo-con fools like David Horowitz.
Recently, I read where a neo-con-run company out of Arizona is buying up liberal, progressive, “alternative” weekly newspapers around the country (like the Village Voice) with the goal of “re-educating” communities along neo-conservative lines.
And I won’t go into the attempt to turn the U.S. Air Force Academy into a neo-con wetdream of a conservative, religious fundamentalist terrorist “re-education camp.”
In other words, what the neo-con Republicans are doing reeks of totalitarianism. Thus, the reason why I compare their attempts to the Reds and their “re-education camps.” Anyone dissenting from the Red’s right-wing Communism party line, or advocating for a liberal democracy, were sent to these Communist “re-education camps.”
We see this same conservative push in the United States today, but it is the self-proclaimed anti-Communist Republican Party who are pulling this totalitarian stunt.
However, I’m too old to be fooled and too ornery to be “re-educated” by a bunch of neo-Communist Republican fools. So, they can stuff it. They can take their anti-democracy, anti-Christ dictatorship agenda and shove it. Like I said, I’m not fooled…no matter how hard they try to cover-up what they are doing with a smiley face.
Wow! As usual, and exceedingly well-articulated point. Am sending it to friends, as I have others’ writings from this site. I hope you all feel that this is the sincerest form of flattery! I am waaaaay addicted, but thanks so much for being my voice. You folks are what keeps me sane somedays.
Pach-thanks so much, I read alot, but not enough and I appreciate it when someone makes such a well put argument, as this is. That regime change should also include members of the democratic party who have done nothing but enable this current administration, and in point of fact are really not democrats in anything but name, and the common good is not in their bag of tricks. The place we occupy in history at present is a very dangerous one, and this administration is not equal to the task of addressing the problems we as a country and we as the world face-the really sad part is they don’t care, or so it seems from my vantage point. This is not a time to separate ourselves from others, to run roughshod over the feet of other nations, yet that is what we are doing. Anyone who has even a small awareness of history knows that never has any country been successful at dominating the world, ever, and that history is inescapable. I might be a little OT, I apologize, I just feel that what you have written encompasses so many facets of our present existance, the consequences for not acting mindfully in what we do are so severe as to be terminal
#179 The beginning of what I said should be; I read alot, but not enough and the education I receive from all of you is more than appreciated-Thanks
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