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		<title>By: Magi mushrooms</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/05/where-are-the-grown-ups/#comment-111411</link>
		<dc:creator>Magi mushrooms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 17:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow nice blogs keep up the good work&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Artur,&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow nice blogs keep up the good work</p>
<p>Artur,<br />
<a href="http://shrooms-that-grow-on-dung.easymushrooms.com">http://shrooms-that-grow-on-dung.easymushrooms.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: TF-MA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/05/where-are-the-grown-ups/#comment-91779</link>
		<dc:creator>TF-MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 02:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“The president lacks the courage to change course. The whole country is paralyzed by his cowardice.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please let’s not forget the many others paralyzed by their cowardice who put him in office not once, but twice. The Chimp hasn’t done this alone.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The president lacks the courage to change course. The whole country is paralyzed by his cowardice.”</p>
<p>Please let’s not forget the many others paralyzed by their cowardice who put him in office not once, but twice. The Chimp hasn’t done this alone.</p>
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		<title>By: d. king</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/05/where-are-the-grown-ups/#comment-91194</link>
		<dc:creator>d. king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 20:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This was my ‘04 campaign slogan (due to political cartoonist Tom Toles), still proudly displayed on my car bumper:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  “No Child Left in Charge”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even 2 years 9 months is far too long to wait.  After the next catastrophe, it may be too late….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was my ‘04 campaign slogan (due to political cartoonist Tom Toles), still proudly displayed on my car bumper:</p>
<p>  “No Child Left in Charge”</p>
<p>Even 2 years 9 months is far too long to wait.  After the next catastrophe, it may be too late….</p>
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		<title>By: MonkeyBoy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/05/where-are-the-grown-ups/#comment-91036</link>
		<dc:creator>MonkeyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 19:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Drag out and delay most things as long as possible till they can reach the day when everybody is pardoned.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Scandals are good. It diverts attention from what Congress is doing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drag out and delay most things as long as possible till they can reach the day when everybody is pardoned.</p>
<p>Scandals are good. It diverts attention from what Congress is doing.</p>
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		<title>By: LJ/Aquaria</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/05/where-are-the-grown-ups/#comment-90882</link>
		<dc:creator>LJ/Aquaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 18:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, and Kate:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t know the particulars of the situation there, but more than resentment of hard-line ideology is usually at work in such situations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nearly every time I’ve seen a change of guard/major shift in membership in the Dem party, there was a fallout. Whether or not you realize it, those progressives stepped on a lot of toes, bruised some egos, and etc. Dems aren’t any different in having party members who are VERY protective of their turf, and even very petty.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“If I can’t be in charge/person I liked isn’t in charge, I won’t play anymore.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“How DARE they think X about an issue, when *I* want them to think Y!”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“If we won’t do things MY way, then I’m taking my toys and leaving!”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A bunch of damned drama queens. Been there. Done that. The party managed to survive. Most people got over their little hissy fits and came back.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The funniest thing, always, is that the people who scream so damned loudly about “purity of ideology” never–and I do mean NEVER EVER–realize they had a purity of ideology of their own. They just never saw it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Think about it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Kate:</p>
<p>I don’t know the particulars of the situation there, but more than resentment of hard-line ideology is usually at work in such situations.</p>
<p>Nearly every time I’ve seen a change of guard/major shift in membership in the Dem party, there was a fallout. Whether or not you realize it, those progressives stepped on a lot of toes, bruised some egos, and etc. Dems aren’t any different in having party members who are VERY protective of their turf, and even very petty.</p>
<p>“If I can’t be in charge/person I liked isn’t in charge, I won’t play anymore.”</p>
<p>“How DARE they think X about an issue, when *I* want them to think Y!”</p>
<p>“If we won’t do things MY way, then I’m taking my toys and leaving!”</p>
<p>And etc.</p>
<p>A bunch of damned drama queens. Been there. Done that. The party managed to survive. Most people got over their little hissy fits and came back.</p>
<p>The funniest thing, always, is that the people who scream so damned loudly about “purity of ideology” never–and I do mean NEVER EVER–realize they had a purity of ideology of their own. They just never saw it.</p>
<p>Think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: LJ/Aquaria</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/05/where-are-the-grown-ups/#comment-90840</link>
		<dc:creator>LJ/Aquaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 18:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kate:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m sorry, but you have to draw the line SOMEWHERE with candidates. If they are ACTIVELY undermining the party itself (Lieberman), do you support them? If they are doing more harm to constituents than helping them (Biden), do you continue to support them?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The hallmark of insanity is to repeat mistakes in the expectation that the results will change. It’s not about “purity” of ideology; for many of us, it’s about getting rid of people who are actively making everything worse–for everybody, especially your own damned party. How the FUCK is it productive for the party to stand by with thumbs up asses when Lieberman gives cover, yet again, to Bush at the expense of any Democrat willing to stand up to that monster?  Besides, why stick with the serial murderer standing near YOU with a knife? That’s just STUPID!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know the point you are trying to make–to stick together, to get some frickin’ clue about party unity, but it is madness to say we can never, ever criticize dear party. We’re Democrats, that’s not how things work for us. If we wanted that mentality, we’d be Republicans.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate:</p>
<p>I’m sorry, but you have to draw the line SOMEWHERE with candidates. If they are ACTIVELY undermining the party itself (Lieberman), do you support them? If they are doing more harm to constituents than helping them (Biden), do you continue to support them?</p>
<p>The hallmark of insanity is to repeat mistakes in the expectation that the results will change. It’s not about “purity” of ideology; for many of us, it’s about getting rid of people who are actively making everything worse–for everybody, especially your own damned party. How the FUCK is it productive for the party to stand by with thumbs up asses when Lieberman gives cover, yet again, to Bush at the expense of any Democrat willing to stand up to that monster?  Besides, why stick with the serial murderer standing near YOU with a knife? That’s just STUPID!</p>
<p>I know the point you are trying to make–to stick together, to get some frickin’ clue about party unity, but it is madness to say we can never, ever criticize dear party. We’re Democrats, that’s not how things work for us. If we wanted that mentality, we’d be Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: Konnie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/05/where-are-the-grown-ups/#comment-90827</link>
		<dc:creator>Konnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 18:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Today something unexpected happened!  A nice, quiet Catholic lady I work with came up to me (the only openly Democrat in the office) and said:  Why hasn’t Bush been indicted by the World Court for Crimes Against Humanity?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course I had no answer…………..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today something unexpected happened!  A nice, quiet Catholic lady I work with came up to me (the only openly Democrat in the office) and said:  Why hasn’t Bush been indicted by the World Court for Crimes Against Humanity?”</p>
<p>Of course I had no answer…………..</p>
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		<title>By: rizbiz</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/05/where-are-the-grown-ups/#comment-90781</link>
		<dc:creator>rizbiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 18:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If your mechanic screws up your car, you fire them.  Do you care how they voted?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can we move the message from blue vs. red to simply making correct decisions?  And the correct decision is to fire the bastards that broke our damn car.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your mechanic screws up your car, you fire them.  Do you care how they voted?</p>
<p>Can we move the message from blue vs. red to simply making correct decisions?  And the correct decision is to fire the bastards that broke our damn car.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Parrish, CPA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/05/where-are-the-grown-ups/#comment-90645</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Parrish, CPA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 17:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;BREAKING NEWS (from MSNBC)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CIA Director Porter Goss has resigned, a Bush administration official says&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BREAKING NEWS (from MSNBC)</p>
<p>CIA Director Porter Goss has resigned, a Bush administration official says</p>
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		<title>By: angie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/05/where-are-the-grown-ups/#comment-90631</link>
		<dc:creator>angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 17:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow, Ralph!  Welcome.  That was a lovely post with some stellar writing.  Hi.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Ralph!  Welcome.  That was a lovely post with some stellar writing.  Hi.</p>
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