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		<title>By: professor rat</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/04/2265/#comment-90239</link>
		<dc:creator>professor rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 04:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You don’t have to keep any foil in the house to see connections between Watergate, Iran-Contra and Yellowgate. Two elephants ‘ hiding-in-plain-sight’ are Shrub’s superior officers. Von Runsfeld and the Shotgun dictator.&lt;br /&gt;
Also when looking at the Niger forgery you have to look at Mossad involvement AND sayanim involvement. Sayanim are people like Michael Ledeen who will work for Mossad and Shin-bet for free or favours. Ledeen also is reported to have excellent Italian fascist/spook/P2 type connection’s.&lt;br /&gt;
Another way to look at the CIA is the reported split between the ‘ Waffen SS’ who are ideologues and fanatics and the ‘ Wermacht ‘ who don’t want the good name of the ‘ German army’ dragged through the mud of kidnapping, torture, cooking up lies for war, concentration camps and so on.&lt;br /&gt;
While the CIA has a terrible history and reputation and I agree with people like Phill Agee and John Young of Cryptome that their agents are fair game for outing, they still have done some good in the world (in Poland and associated countries ) and some of the information they provide can be used.&lt;br /&gt;
I would be more inclined to feel like smashing the Pentagon or the FBI into a million pieces today than the CIA. Maybe the Kremlin can help us out here and release all the stuff Robert Hanssen gave them - the so-called ‘ crown jewels’ of intelligence?&lt;br /&gt;
Please Mr Putin, pretty please?&lt;br /&gt;
Send it all to Cryptome - and Indymedia as well.&lt;br /&gt;
I’d like to see that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don’t have to keep any foil in the house to see connections between Watergate, Iran-Contra and Yellowgate. Two elephants ‘ hiding-in-plain-sight’ are Shrub’s superior officers. Von Runsfeld and the Shotgun dictator.<br />
Also when looking at the Niger forgery you have to look at Mossad involvement AND sayanim involvement. Sayanim are people like Michael Ledeen who will work for Mossad and Shin-bet for free or favours. Ledeen also is reported to have excellent Italian fascist/spook/P2 type connection’s.<br />
Another way to look at the CIA is the reported split between the ‘ Waffen SS’ who are ideologues and fanatics and the ‘ Wermacht ‘ who don’t want the good name of the ‘ German army’ dragged through the mud of kidnapping, torture, cooking up lies for war, concentration camps and so on.<br />
While the CIA has a terrible history and reputation and I agree with people like Phill Agee and John Young of Cryptome that their agents are fair game for outing, they still have done some good in the world (in Poland and associated countries ) and some of the information they provide can be used.<br />
I would be more inclined to feel like smashing the Pentagon or the FBI into a million pieces today than the CIA. Maybe the Kremlin can help us out here and release all the stuff Robert Hanssen gave them &#8211; the so-called ‘ crown jewels’ of intelligence?<br />
Please Mr Putin, pretty please?<br />
Send it all to Cryptome &#8211; and Indymedia as well.<br />
I’d like to see that.</p>
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		<title>By: MsAnnaNOLA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/04/2265/#comment-90047</link>
		<dc:creator>MsAnnaNOLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 01:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow. Great post as usual!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Great post as usual!</p>
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		<title>By: Valley Girl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/04/2265/#comment-90010</link>
		<dc:creator>Valley Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 01:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;BarbaraB #71 no, that is not “too much information”, it is great information.  I don’t know if you are a lawyer or not (assume so) but if you have read a lot of FDL comments by lawyers, as I have, one sees that their comments tend to be rather lenghty!  And, the lenghty comments are always welcome.  Never seen any complaints on that account.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BarbaraB #71 no, that is not “too much information”, it is great information.  I don’t know if you are a lawyer or not (assume so) but if you have read a lot of FDL comments by lawyers, as I have, one sees that their comments tend to be rather lenghty!  And, the lenghty comments are always welcome.  Never seen any complaints on that account.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharkbabe</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/04/2265/#comment-89989</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharkbabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 00:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lou-tz!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou-tz!</p>
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		<title>By: moe99</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/04/2265/#comment-89898</link>
		<dc:creator>moe99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 23:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Barbara B:&lt;br /&gt;
Just one point of clarification.  Not all civil cases are tried to a jury, nor is there a constitutional right to the same.  However, this case appears to be one where the plaintiff is entitled to a jury trial, if so requested.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbara B:<br />
Just one point of clarification.  Not all civil cases are tried to a jury, nor is there a constitutional right to the same.  However, this case appears to be one where the plaintiff is entitled to a jury trial, if so requested.</p>
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		<title>By: BarbaraB</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/04/2265/#comment-89872</link>
		<dc:creator>BarbaraB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 22:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;VG 66 — I should have qualified my answer by saying that a plaintiff has a right to a jury trial if the case actually makes it that far.  A complaint can be dismissed for failure to state a claim; that’s the legal version of a “so what?”  The defendant is arguing that even if everything the plaintiff says in the complaint is true, the plaintiff doesn’t have a legal case.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The case can also be tossed out early (but usually not until after discovery) if the party who would have the burden of proof at trial does not persuade the judge that there is enough evidence to go to the jury.  IRRC, the Alito cases you remember were about the appropriate standards for summary judgment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My apologies if this is too much information.  Old Civil Procedure teachers never die, they just blather on in blogs. *g*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VG 66 — I should have qualified my answer by saying that a plaintiff has a right to a jury trial if the case actually makes it that far.  A complaint can be dismissed for failure to state a claim; that’s the legal version of a “so what?”  The defendant is arguing that even if everything the plaintiff says in the complaint is true, the plaintiff doesn’t have a legal case.</p>
<p>The case can also be tossed out early (but usually not until after discovery) if the party who would have the burden of proof at trial does not persuade the judge that there is enough evidence to go to the jury.  IRRC, the Alito cases you remember were about the appropriate standards for summary judgment.</p>
<p>My apologies if this is too much information.  Old Civil Procedure teachers never die, they just blather on in blogs. *g*</p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/04/2265/#comment-89863</link>
		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 22:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;TheOtherWA 64 –&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The illegal Florida Voter Purge was a Karl Rove scheme, first attempted in Texas in 1982. See The Texas Blueprint For The Stolen Election for some of the details — &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democrats.com/blueprint&quot;&gt;www.democrats.com/blueprint&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TheOtherWA 64 –</p>
<p>The illegal Florida Voter Purge was a Karl Rove scheme, first attempted in Texas in 1982. See The Texas Blueprint For The Stolen Election for some of the details — <a href="http://www.democrats.com/blueprint">http://www.democrats.com/blueprint</a></p>
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		<title>By: BarbaraB</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/04/2265/#comment-89859</link>
		<dc:creator>BarbaraB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 22:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;VG 63 — I’m sorry I wasn’t more clear.  My bad. The judge doesn’t get to decide whether there will me a jury trial.  The plaintiff has a right to one if he wants it, and that “demand” says he wants it.  And yes, those initials are probably the judge’s, unless that particular court has some strange local rule with which I am not familiar.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VG 63 — I’m sorry I wasn’t more clear.  My bad. The judge doesn’t get to decide whether there will me a jury trial.  The plaintiff has a right to one if he wants it, and that “demand” says he wants it.  And yes, those initials are probably the judge’s, unless that particular court has some strange local rule with which I am not familiar.</p>
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		<title>By: Oklahoma kiddo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/04/2265/#comment-89858</link>
		<dc:creator>Oklahoma kiddo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 22:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;tpres2000 #61 re: #14…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…Yes there are many ways to get the message out. Blogs are wonderful, but letters to the editor are excellent avenues for expression. Some argue that the best way to take the pulse of this country is through reading the letters to the editor. I’m an addicted reader so I like it all. Even the conservative stuff interests me because it let’s me know what the opposition is up to. Of course, of all the blogs I look at, I view FDL as one of, if not, the best of them all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tpres2000 #61 re: #14…</p>
<p>…Yes there are many ways to get the message out. Blogs are wonderful, but letters to the editor are excellent avenues for expression. Some argue that the best way to take the pulse of this country is through reading the letters to the editor. I’m an addicted reader so I like it all. Even the conservative stuff interests me because it let’s me know what the opposition is up to. Of course, of all the blogs I look at, I view FDL as one of, if not, the best of them all.</p>
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		<title>By: angie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/04/2265/#comment-89855</link>
		<dc:creator>angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 22:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lou said that it is good that we can speak up in America and McIntyre says give rummy credit b/c they were about to throw this guy out and he asked them to let him stay.  sheeeeit, that’s freedom and worth kudos to rummy???????  Therefore rummy gets the credit for the goons not dragging him off and for the process of free speech. nice.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou said that it is good that we can speak up in America and McIntyre says give rummy credit b/c they were about to throw this guy out and he asked them to let him stay.  sheeeeit, that’s freedom and worth kudos to rummy???????  Therefore rummy gets the credit for the goons not dragging him off and for the process of free speech. nice.</p>
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