Colbert/Fitz/FDL!

FITZ!!

FEINGOLD!!

‘Fessor Cole!!

Fuck Slate, from way back. They’re one of the early spawning grounds of the Vichy Dem mentality.

in homage of Hitchens from his salad days: Try Kissinger as a war criminal! It’s a pity to see how Hitchens has mutated into what he once so fiercely opposed…

oh thank you, Jane!!!!!!

Go Professor Cole!!!!!!!

Slate is owned by the WaPo – Perhaps Mrs. Howell can put an end to this deception!

Listen, for everything Hitchens said, he had proof. About 90 proof.

I am re-posting this from earlier today b/c it is relevant:

angie says:
May 3rd, 2006 at 11:06 am

wow– that Hitchens stomping over at Prof. Cole’s place is well-deserved and thorough, imho. The Professor is rightly steamed and serving it up smokin’ caliente. It is a fantabulous read and some tough and thoughtful pictures give it added power.
>>>>>

We are not going to let you have a war against Iran.

So sit down and shut up, American Enterprise Institute, and Hudson Institute, and Washington Institute for Near East Policy, and American Heritage Institute, and this institue and that institute, and cable “newsâ€, and government “spokesmenâ€, and all the pundit-ferrets you pay millions to make business for the American military-industrial complex and Big Oil.

(snip)

Because Hitchens’s dirty tricks and lies against me are only the beginning. Whoever stands against the Perpetual War machine will be attacked, slimed, marginalized, and destroyed if the warmongers get their way. I don’t care. Thus far and no farther.

One, two, three, four. We don’t want your stinking war!

Maybe it is time to stop acknowledging that Hitchens was once a facsimile of a reasonable human being, and focus exclusively on what he has become.

Slated for demolition…

Has Hitchens done anything useful since his Kissinger/war crimes work?

Jane- formatting question- does the part that starts with “We actually do carefully consider..” belong in a block quote? Sounds like Cole, not FDL.

sorry to go off topic but this is about the unclosed html tag problem on this board

untill wordpress fixes this bug, and it’s a HUGE bug, you can disable html and can use a BBCode plugin that will then use [ ] [/] tags to format

that would do the trick

I read Cole’s post earlier today was and sad that he has to deal with this crap. But I loved, loved, loved his response.
So sit down and shut up, American Enterprise Institute, and Hudson Institute, and Washington Institute for Near East Policy, and American Heritage Institute, and this institue and that institute, and cable “newsâ€, and government “spokesmenâ€, and all the pundit-ferrets you pay millions to make business for the American military-industrial complex and Big Oil.

Ok, the entire thing was great, but it wonderful to see the ijits running the country get called out so forcefully and righteously.

Hitchens is a lot like one of those flex fuel vehicles. He not only is full of gas but he runs on ethanol too.

Jane- oops- I didn’t mean that the way it came out- of course FDL carefully considers it sources.. but in reading, I thought that it followed on more from the Juan Cole statement, so that is why I questioned it. “We at FDL do carefully consider…”?

Fidel, please take your cigar and insert it where the sun don’t shine– while still flaming.

vg — that is me, not Cole.

Fidel Cigar says:
May 3rd, 2006 at 4:38 pm

Juan Cole is a blind left-wing hack who’s not fit to pour Hitchens’ bourbon.

What was it Woolcott was saying about the wishful thinkers of the right who have nothing left now but wishful thinking to get them through the day? Fidel Cigar, we’re looking at…you.

If the Washingotn Post-owned Slate wants to continue to publish this kind of inebriated, partisan, journalistically amoral crap they can watch their own credibility roll around like backwash in the bottom of a Hitchens bottle.

With all due respect,we are talking about the WaPoo.And they have been showing there new colors the past couple of years.This just continues the trend.
As juan notes,how does one professor blogger inspire such inspired nuttiness in the right?

Hitchens,,,,,,,,, sad. The brain is pickled. He’s an embarassment. In short, an incompetent bloviating fool.

Jane, I finally figured that out. Duh on me. Sorry. “We at FDL…?

OT – House conservatives just passed their lobbying reform bill by a narrow 217-214 217-213 vote. The Washington Post called the legislation a “sham,†“diluted snake oil†and “an insult to voters.†Instead of the comprehensive reform promised by lawmakers in early 2006, this bill fails to reform parts of the system most in need. –ThinkProgress

I heard he’s been shooting pot.

Hitchins is a drunken whore who has sold his soul to the NeoCons. When I see that shit on TV I immediately reach for the remote control. If I want to hear drunken bullshit I can go to the local bar.

Hitchens gives drunken whores a bad name.

Looks like the beginning of a classic literary war. Relax these rarely end in actual murder- but they often sound like it while goin on!

“You gonna let HIM get away with sayin that?”

” . . . they can watch their own credibility roll around like backwash in the bottom of a Hitchens bottle.”

Oh, god, what a perfectly apt simile. Never mind Wolcott and Cole – nobody better mess with Jane either.

“shooting pot”

Now that’s funny- I think.

Two updates: Andrew Sullivan is weighing in – basically calling Professor Cole dishonest. And Jonah Goldberg (over at NRO’s The Corner) is getting all hot over Sulli’s post. The Professor is aware of these continued bitch slaps from the dynamic duel – so maybe it’s going to go from 2-0 to 4-0 very soon!

a “drink-sodden former Trotskyist popinjay”. my fave description of Hitchens.

break out another pig-pole.

Good heavens, has that ‘former Trotskyist popinjay’ set his watch forward seven hours to allow for the lack of sun over the yardarm again?

I’d shake hands with him, but they already appear to be shaking.

OT Looking at daily averages for regular gas in the 50 states plus DC

9 states 3.00+
15 states 2.90+
19 states 2.80+
6 states 2.70+
2 states 2.60+ (Wyoming and Montana, of course)

These numbers are slightly higher than a couple of days ago. Crude oil prices are down slightly but remain well above $70 due to demand and speculative pressures. Gas stocks have improved in part because drivers are modifying their habits. In short, gas prices may decline somewhat short term but overall will remain high.

Hitchens is little more than a pickled egg.

Slate, while trying to polish their turd, are constantly attempting to package him as a ‘boneless chicken dinner’.

WaPo/Slate/Hitchens: The Axis of Unbelievable

I feel I must come to Christopher Hitchens’ defense. The world really does look different when you look at through the bottom of a whiskey bottle.

Also I think it is pointless to bring Hitchens before the court of public opinion, much less the law, he would just take the fifth . . . and drink it.

darkblack 31

I’d shake hands with him, but they already appear to be shaking.

(Bitchin’) Twitchin’ Hitchens

I’m so glad you blogged this, Jane, what a ridiculous fool Hitchens is. I watched a debate video someone linked here with ?????(someone will know) and he was 1)insufferably self-righteous and 2)incapable of rational response. It goes without saying that he was obviously smashed and didn’t care who knew it. The person he was debating was passionate and gave him room, but Hitchens just spewed and sputtered.

I never knew anything about him except for his name in VF; everything I’ve learned about the media I’ve learned at FDL. I’m so glad.

Hugh – the quart of public opinion

Hitchens. Blech. There’s only one thing worse than a bombast. A drunk bombast.

I hear he has a rye sense of humor.

A drunk bombast = a bombed ass

Hitchens–like a shipwreck- One sees the fragmented carcass where once a mighty man of war stood.

My brother once had dinner with Snitchens and loves to tell the tale of his prodigious drinking, and how he continued to spew his big-word, big-talk, know-it-all bullshit even when he was bobbing and weaving with the table. Stream of delirium tremens, as it were.

Over at LGF, the commentator calls Juan Cole’s writing on this matter “incoherent”.

Slate stinks–Kaus etc. are all Joe Kleinistas.

zen, thanks for the link to Wolcott on Colbert, prior thread.

zennurse – Snitchens debated Gorgeous George Gallaway at the New School. Can’t figure out why he is Gorgeous, but the whole performance was pathetic from beginning to end. They deserved each other, though i did love it when Geo took on Senator Levin like he was on the floor of Parliment.

Methinks a twelve step group be in order:

Adult Survivors (barely) of a Cole stomping.

you know, alcoholism is a disease and I really, really feel badly for those that suffer from it or are victims of the addict’s actions and disease; undetected/untreated it always ends in painful heartache and wasted life.

I won’t break bad on Hitchens for that– but I will break bad on him being an abusive drunk with no redemptive qualities or visible/audible attempt at recovery. He went way wrong and is delusional at best; at worst, he is a ringer for the administration and is finally showing his true colors in stunning technicolor. Slate bears a lot of the shame, imho.

Sorry for going off on so and so. I try to stay away from that sort of thing always, but it rankled me immediately; warp speed.

Hitchens is a true waste of a life at this low point– he had looks, intelligence and charm.

He has nothing to offer now excpt fuel for the needy, salacious, and bloodthirsty wingers and warmongerers.

Pitiful and outrageous at the same time.

Thank you Jane and thank you Juan Cole.

punaise,

Are you being rye?

Hitchins is a drunken media whore who has sold his soul to the NeoCons. Why does the mainstream media pay any attention to this clown? Is it his English accent that convinces them that there may be some truth behind his bullshit?

Hugh says:
May 3rd, 2006 at 5:24 pm

Until he answers, let’s not scotch that idea.

From my brother’s blog:

24 hours in the day…
posted @ 8:33 am in [ Wingnuts - A Smashing Little War ]

Christopher Hitchens To Do list:
1. Pry one eye open.
2. Defeat hangover with liberal doses of Glenfiddich.
3. Nap.
4. One piece of toast, 13 cigarettes.
5. More Glenfiddich. Admire lustrous and manly facial hair.
6. slanderous hit piece.
7. Cash Mellon-Scaife-Coors foundation check.
8. More Glennfiddich.
9. Check under bed for Islamofascist boogieman hit squad.
10. More cigarettes.
11. Sweet oblivion.
12. Repeat.

From “I Speak Dog”, located at:

http://wasuvi.com/

Here’s the problem: wingnut welfare. Has D. Pantload stopped being paid to bullshit on Iraq, in spite of not having read a book on the subject? Is Hitchens struggling to pay his bar bills?

By contrast, if any university’s management is sufficiently intimidated by the Wurlitzer and the Pipes/Horowitz crowd, Juan Cole’s career stops dead.

When you’re dealing with people for whom ignorance is cherished and sustained by their line of work, how the fuck do those who have the background and expertise win the day? They’re dealing with fucking intellectual zombies. Pass the cricket bat.

Hugh 50

we’re obviously at lager-heads

Preemptively punned by punaise, the worst of fates! Like that sinking feeling Hitchens gets when he realizes there’s not a drop in the house and the liquor store doesn’t open until eight.

The Who/Quadrophenia:

…I need to get back home to cool cool rain.
The nights are hot and black as ink
I can’t sleep and I lay and I think
Oh God, I need a drink of cool cool rain.

he used to be able to distill an argument

One wonders whether he got lost on his way to find firedoglake.

Accidentally and repetitively punching in fire water dog.

egads! mutter, mutter (to himself), try again, Hitchens, come on.

Jane, what do you expect from a scuzzy right-wing rag like “Slate”? This is the place that blatant racist Mickey Kaus calls home. There is precious little difference between “Slate” and “World Net Daily.” They deserve nothing but the back of your hand!

Although a nice clean sock with a clenched fist wouldn’t be a bad idea either.

T Rex, white courtesy troll-o-phone?

punaise says:
May 3rd, 2006 at 5:31 pm

Why? Let me distill my thoughts: I don’t see any trouble brewing.

Is it me or does he look stouter?

I think he is seeing things Cristal clear!

He should take that beard and put it on Matt Coopers’s skull from a couple pictures down.

angie, speaking as one who has been sober for 16 years, there’s nothing that makes me feel sorrier than an unrepentant loud drunk. But having said that, it also keeps me very, very sober. Hitchens has the resources and I bet has had the interventions and losses that could have made a difference for him; if he weren’t putting his illness and destruction on display, inserting himself in international affairs, I might be able to work up a tear. But he’s like the guy even I wouldn’t have hung out with at the barroom, he thinks he and his drinking are an art form and every word from his lips profound, in spite of all evidence to the contrary. There are any number of people who have managed the disease of alcoholism without the access to care and support Hitchens has. I’m sure he has lost friends and loved ones over it, and I think that this kind of comment about his reputation does touch him on some level, but his arrogance stands in the way of submission.

It’s a shame, but it’s his chosen persona.

IMO Hitchens is a man who’s drowning his sorrows to keep his liver afloat.

Rudy says he’s real sorry that Moose-sowee isn’t gonna be killed. Rudy offered to do it himself with just a thin blade and a 12 guage..

Rudy’s runnin for President.

Americans prefer their presidents to be blood thirsty.

Rudy’s doin good.

ooh, sorry to break up the punfest with my seriosity. I hope you will think it’s just small beer.

Didn’t Hitchens write Tequila Mockingbird or was that someone else?

Philip Seymour Hoffman could play the movie version of him (he was a pretty good lout in the light-weight movie “Along Came Polly”)

a “drink-sodden former Trotskyist popinjayâ€.

And a bisexual to boot. I’m sure we’ve all heard about Hitch’s adventures at Oxford with Bill Clinton and Mandy Meryck, right class?

Hitch wants “L’il Elvis” BAD!

Hugh 70 – you win! I bow before you….

zennurse– thank you and that is the point I attempted to make; you were much more eloquent. :)

Not Glenfiddich, Dimwitty !

Don’t forget about Laura’s little problem.

zen, if you’re OK with the silly word play then I’m OK with the gravitas. They’re not mutually exclusive, I hope.

punaise,

I am humbled before the master.

“One, two, three, four. We don’t want your stinking war!” — Juan Cole

Oh, you’re welcome, angie.

been kinda wordy today, making up for lost time, I guess.

How’s about a wee dram of Dalwhinnie? Neigh, you say?

Punaise is ‘taking the mickey’ again…Give it back to Hitchens right now, he desperately needs another drink.

‘Treat their term just like the Do Do, don’t make plans on them going solo’

;>)

I honor and treasure your talent, and that of all of our friends, my dear. I don’t have the gene, but I laugh out loud, and have been known to say aloud when I see your byline the first time, “Punaise is in the house!

Gin Soaked Raisin Brain Dilletante Hitchens vs. Patriot Cole

was how I expressed it earlier. Hitchens is a drunk yes but that’s the cherry on the cake. His real problem is that he’s an amoral little twit who swings from one extremist position to another in a childish need to shock the adults. Hey Hitchypoo – Welcome to being treated as what you are you revolting little feeb of a snotmonster you.

Great one, darkblack! Love the look on George’s face.

holy crow, Darkblack– I am heaving and ROTFLMAO at the same time.

“feeb of a snotmonster”????

Oh, Mark, how endearing!

OK, last one.

This may be just the liquor talking but it is vintage Hitchens.

OT – There was another interesting Order entered in Libby’s case today. Judge set 5-5 as a hearing date. Gov is supposed to be prepared to specify which factual allegations contained in the indictment it intends to introduce evidence about in its case-in-chief.

Some of the allegations went to elements of the statutory claims (and include, for example, the “covert” status allegation) and would not necessarily need to have evidence put on in the case in chief. Should be interesting.

That’s the bowdlerised version zennurse :-)

mfi– thank you for the hint today– I always check in with Prof. Cole but had not today ’til you dropped in and then went poof quite quickly. ;)

There’s nothing amusing about Hitchens’ alcohol abuse. Let’s stop using it as an excuse for his degenerate behavior. If he has a drinking problem, he should f*&$#@g deal with it, not inflict it on society. And until he does, he should stop pretending to be a journalist.

Christopher Hitchens has been an embarrassment for some time & I fail to understand how or why anyone pays one whit of attention to his incoherent snark in recent times.

Whatever credibility he once enjoyed, he is now just a pathetic, nasty, unabashed & untreated drunk. He may or may not survive his demonic disease. Decency dictates we wish him well.

darkblack – that pic / beverage spew warning please!

Take the Mickey: Tease or make fun of.
(I learn something everyday)

New picture of

Patrick Fitzgerald

Hi Karl!

I think that you’ve all missed the important part of the Cole’s story. To me, the fact that the whole “The Iranians are completely nuts because their president says that Israel should be wiped of the map” talking point is based on a sloppy and bad translation is a lot more important than Christopher Bloody Hitchen’s drinking problem, or what cute nickname you can come up with for another warmongering asshole. Can’t we just call them all warmongering assholes and move along to trying to stop the next war!!! Not trying to be shrill here, but what is it that matters? Whether Juan Cole beats Chris Hitchens in a steel-cage death match or whether or not we invade Iran? You tell me.
peace,
jim

zen (aw shucks) – but I don’t do windows….

Yer not lookin so good today Chris What Ales ya- gettin a little Stout too I see, By the way didn’t you used ta be a Lager? I gotta tree that needs ta come out. Well good luck to ya- but ya really don’t look good- I’d keep yer Pilsner.

Katrina Van Den Heuvel (sp?) once sighed, about Hitchens, on Air America, “He wants to be George Orwell.” Fine. He should go write the next 1984 and Animal Farm, then. It’s a shame; I have to admire anyone who can write a entire book (however slim) denouncing Mother Theresa. (Not that I’ve read it…)

you’re welcome angie nearly 3am here so I’m about to go *poof* again. if you’re interested I did a takedown of Biden (War Party & Plagiarist) on gorillasguides yesterday. The “plan” he and the neo-con Gelb are touting is truly dangerous.

Now according to my watch is is 3am so:

*poof*

You guys are really on fire!

OT – forgive me if this has already been posted. Listened to Janis Karpinski and Craig Murray speak about Bushco, torture and human rights on public radio this morning. Wowie, she is pissed. She’s apearing at UC Berkeley tonight with Daniel Ellesberg, and tomorrow night at Stanford with (rumor has it) Zimbardo. I can’t make that but would kill to hear those two talk about Abu Gharib. Anyone out there going to either?? This is all part of a nationwide campus tour, “Speaking the Unspeakable: Is the Bush Administration Guilty of War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity?†“to give testimony that make visible the reality that this administration has committed war crimes and crimes against humanity – acts that, by their scale or nature, shock the conscience of humankind.” By the way, Karpinski has written a book. Sounds like it may be a scorcher.

I reviewed (favorably) Hitchens’ Kissinger book for the Oregonian, and we went out for drinks after he read at Powell’s. A friend who came with us brought up the (j.F.) Kennedy assassination, and Hitchens’ take on it was essentially that Kennedy deserved no sympathy because of the lives he had endangered by his brinkmanship during the Cuban missile crisis. Yet another reason his support of Bush leaves a person gasping.

Laura Bush. She reminds me of a ” cardboard cut-out” first lady. Could be that she’s just a really weak, and miserable person. And she’s quite likely intimidated by the real power behind the Bush dynasty (Babs Bush). I’d like to feel sorry for Laura, but I don’t. Of course I understand her fear of the “family”. Any family that can pull off two rigged U.S. presidential elections is a force to be reckoned with.

I know that Prof. Cole can obviously take care of himself, but I just want to make sure that I say that I value him very much. In these times with precious little that is real and factual being reported and less still being taught, Juan Cole is an invaluable resource for our world. I want him to prevail with his offered tenured position at Yale and be awarded his proper due. More than that, I want young people to be able to avail themselves of his knowledge. Our collective future depends on this. I want the hatemongers like Horowitz shamed into that shut- up and sit- down place that Cole so eloquently conjured today.

Mary says:
May 3rd, 2006 at 5:50 pm

Do you have a link to the order you mentioned? I didn’t see a link to it on the D.C. Circuit Court Web page. Did you obtain the order via PACER?

I’m still amazed by that Dickerson article as well. I suspect he wrote it partially tongue-in-cheek, trying for a contrarian angle on L’Affair Plame. He wound up looking like an idiot. Hitchens has long looked like one.

for the record, Hitchens is just the “empty vessel*” for riffing on the subject. no offense intended to those who suffer from abuse(rs).

*(wonder if he’s a glass all-empty or a glass none-full kind of guy.)

must….stop…doing….this….

Asked to name the news source they most trusted, without any prompting, 59 percent of Egyptians said Al Jazeera, 52 percent of Brazilians said Rede Globo, 32 percent of Britons said the BBC, 22 percent of Germans said ARD and 11 percent of Americans said Fox News, each leading their respective nations.

The most trusted news brands globally were the BBC, Britain’s publicly funded broadcaster, and CNN, which is owned by the world’s biggest media conglomerate, Time Warner Inc..

more info on further panels, meta, maybe you can get to others. Won’t be Karpinski/Ellsberg, but speakers are very good anyway. Too bad all are W. Coast.

Stephen — I don’t know the location of my prior post, but I conveyed the basics in recent post. Albion’s Seed discusses the four major European immigration waves — one section is about the Quakers and well worth a read and to have on had as a reference. If you ever need or want genealogy help, shoot me an email at paulahatfield at yahoo.

Hitchens is clearly a “get yer grubby hands off my glass” guy.

jumping in, i have to confess i’m disappointed that cole would believe any email circle is fully “private.” not only because of things like sbc reading your mail or illegal wiretapping, hackers are also a concern as well as sloppy drunks who share emails with friends.

nothing you write on the internet is secret. it’s merely a matter of the right person having an interest, and the resources, and anything your write is public.

Oklahoma kiddo #103-
Wolcott covers The Laura 6000 quite well in the April Vanity Fair

Rupert Everett would play Snitchens as Richard III

Really what is with these deluded clowns – Horowitz, Fund, and Hitchens – more and more everyday I think it would be worthwhile to go back and read Die Weldt or Bundt circa 1935 -39 just to make sure they aren’t straight up lifting this shit

Katrina Van Den Heuvel (sp?) once sighed, about Hitchens, on Air America, “He wants to be George Orwell.â€

Indeed, as does Sully. Sadly, neither of them appear to have read either Homage to Catalonia nor Killing an Elephant recently.

Perhaps they should have an asylum for the incurably inane, a place we could send Hitchens, Woodward, Miller, Howell, Matthews, Russert, and so many more. What is it about today’s media that afflicts all its practitioners with terminal insipidity?

Juan was hangin out at the “secret handshake” website- where yer supposed ta keep yer damned mouth closed- kinda like when Clusterfuck belts ol Laura and falls into a drunken stupor- an she kicks him in the head till he wakes up. People who happen to be there aren’t supposed to notice- kinda like “skull and bones”- an organization that makes living two lives just a training exercise for bigger things.

If you were as bought and paid for as Hitch, wouldn’t you be a sot? I know I would. No wait, I think I just explained something to myself.

Hitchens was once sued for ripping the arm off a cocktail waitress who took his glass awayt prematurely–premature evacuation he called it.

Hitchens apologized and the waitress was awarded a prothesis–and is now Dr. Stump.

OT but a subject that I care deeply about via Raw Story:

>>>>>>

Democrats to urge Majority Leader to bring stem cell bill to the Senate floor

RAW STORY
Published: Wednesday May 3, 2006

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Democrats will be holding a press conference tomorrow to announce their plan to urge Majority Leader Bill Frist to bring a stem cell bill to the Senate floor, RAW STORY has learned.

According to a press release issued by the Senate Democratic Communications Center, the press conference will be held in the Lyndon Baines Johnson Room at the U.S. Captiol on Thursday at 11 AM.

Excerpted from the press release:
#

Democrats believe stem cell research should be a part of any serious health care debate, and tomorrow, Thursday, May 4, 2006 at 11:00 AM, Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid and Senators Tom Harkin, Ted Kennedy, and Dianne Feinstein will call on Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist to bring the House-passed stem cell legislation (H.R. 810) to the Senate Floor for debate.

A year after the House passed legislation authorizing federal funding of stem cell research, Senate Democrats are hoping Senator Frist will finally focus on this important issue during his “health†week next week. Despite repeated promises by their leadership to bring it to the Senate Floor, bipartisan stem cell legislation is currently not on the Republicans’ planned health care agenda.

angie- and there you have it- a WEDGE issue- see the dems know how to play this game. Goopers now have ta figure out how ta keep the damned thing from coming up for a vote.

That does it, I’m calling for tax relief for corporate executives.

I think it’s a mistake to confuse Cole’s disdain for Hitchens’ tactics with surprise.

curious in central Texas says:
May 3rd, 2006 at 6:05 pm

Thank you very much for the additional information about Albion’s Seed, which wondering mentioned in the prior thread.

More about this another time…

Juan Cole is THE MAN!!! Ya hear me, THE MAN!!!
Gawd, can he call bullshit, or what? And to think, I was, at one time, (long ago) a subscriber to Slate. Hitchens needs to crawl back into his bottle and shut the hell up.

Perfect opportunity for Slate to print both sides of an ongoing duel- that could go on for the lifetime of a liver.

Blogwhoring BAGNews again, this is a great assessment of the Lieberboy

Also check the Katrina series by Alan Chin, the photos are breathtaking.

“I heard he’s been shooting pot.”

I’m fucking KEEPING this one! Well played…

“I heard he’s been shooting pot.â€

that is classic, indeed. Bet he’s been Huffing tons of other stuff, too.

Latest Libby ruling: Reversed a previous ruling and said that Fitz can file ex parte motions again. If memory serves, that was Team Libby’s only significant victory so far. That’s got to sting.

I’m no expert on the ways of the bottle, but IMHO, Hitchens drinks in order to continue writing. Without the lubrication of drink, his words and ideas would dry up. Hitchens suffers from the same fate that have visited many talented writers, Faulkner, Hemingway, to name just a couple, whom Hitchens cannot hold a candle to, even in his best days.

What I see in Hitchens is tremendous self-loathing, and to protect a devastated ego, he has to offload that loathing onto his betters, like Dr. Cole. Hitchens attacks Cole because he can’t stand himself.

Hitchens and Limbaugh — two of a kind. If either were to climb out from under their addiction, they would be overwhelmed by the blinding light of reality. Addiction is their only refuge.

The sickness of our society is that we reward such people.

Knob Creak Blurbin’

punaise says:
May 3rd, 2006 at 6:26 pm

Good one! One of the reasons why FDLers are glued to their monitors. *g*

yes, rwcole # 120, the goopers dooooo. And Frist will have to justify his MD and professed goodness vs his desire to keep his evangelical base and his fervent desire to save unborn blasts with the argument that they are more valuable in the sacred garbage of hazardous/bio waste than they could possibly be by contributing to research and helping living and suffering and broken human beings…

Everythingseemsoneat 21 — that’s funny.

In my opinion, we need to migrate to another new thread…

new hemp upstairs

hilo nuevo (don’t worry it’s OK to say as long as you don’t sing it)

SP, CPA 132 – fume may agree

gotta go/later folks

too bad this kind of stuff from Slate isn’t actionable.

I can see why Prof. Cole is pissed. But really, consider the source…

and

perhaps the military will step in (read: COUP) and prevent Bush from starting a nuclear war. Certainly the Congress won’t and it won’t matter to Bush how much noise any of us make about it.

One of the great recent Hitchens moments occurred on Bill Maher’s HBO show. At one point, the crazed, drunken lout went into a screed about how “Clinton’s a liar..yadda, yadda, yadda…”

So, Maher asks him one question: “Aside from the blowjob, what did Clinton ever lie to us about?”

Ol’ Snitchens was just struck absolutely speechless. Oh, there were sounds coming out of his mouth, but they were along the lines of “Hummina…hummina…hummina…”

Finally, Mr. 180-proof came up with the lamest of lame responses: “‘The era of big government is over’” — at which point Maher reminded him that it’s the current occupant of the White House who is responsible for the return of big government.

Markfromireland–were you the one saying to watch bomber command promotions?

That article by Hitchens is a disgrace. I am though impressed that he can type with froth in his mouth and slobber on his keyboard. Quite a feat.

Make that 3-0:

Hitchens Not Drunk, Only Asinine Thief

I’m told Andrew Sullivan is saying that he was at Hitchens’s house when Hitchens stole my private mail and published it without my permission, and that he was sober, and that I owe Hitchens an apology.

I am very sorry to hear this. Hitchens came drunk to my talk last year and was incoherent. I was making excuses for his shocking lapse of simple journalistic integrity by hoping that it was the outcome of besotted judgement. If Sullivan is correct, then Hitchens is just plain without any ethics.

THE CHAIR!! HIT HIM WITH THE…

Ahem. Sorry. Well put Professor Cole.

Sullivan:

By pure coincidence, I was at Hitch’s yesterday as he filed the piece. He was stone-cold sober. And on top form.

There’s a slight difference between filing and composing, isn’t there?

It’s been over 10 days since Cole’s Gulf 2000 e-mail, and its interception… Plenty of time to type the tripe and tipple ’til you topple.

Here’s my attempt to figure out why Hitchens is bonkers.

Ok, I feel silly. My blog automatically tracked back (#145). Ignore #146.

This response from Juan Cole and your gloss on it are exactly the same as what you attack in Howell or O’Reilly: a complaint about tone and method, rather than substance. If the arguments don’t have any merit, take down the arguments.

Wow. Cole really seized the high ground against Hitch. Bringing up a guy’s drinking problem is a truly professional way to debate.

And the vitriol being spewed here is simply abhorrent.

“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.” — Martin Luther King

Its impossible not to seize the high ground against Hitchens. And it is impossible to have a reasoned debate with Hitchens. Its simply a waste of time. The only thing Hitchens appreciates is bile. That’s why he enjoys debating George Galloway.

Like many in the media and government, the events of 9.11 scared Mr. Hitchens shitless, witless, stupid, and downright paranoid. His work flaunts his lack of grounding. His support of egregiously ungracious policies disserves his readers and his reputation. Then again, so do those who pay for his verbarrhea.

i gave up on slate when they referenced my blog in an article title without linking to me, even after i wrote them several emails about it.

bastards.

Whenever someone mentions Libby’s defense fund, I see the guy who heads it up. You know, the guy who is a HUGE Republican fundraiser – the one who started the child torture camps.

What is it with conservatives and their fetish for child torture?

Rob, May 3rd, 2006 at 9:00 pm

Put a sock in it. We’ve listend to the right feeding hate and lies on the radio for 15 years. We foolishly thought you’d have enough GD critical thinking skills to know you were being fed bullshit. We watched you being trained like the little pompous cultees you have become, raised on a diet of hate and gutter lies. Now, when we have had our fill of you dragging the nation to hell with your cheap propaganda, we are suppose to be all nicey, nicey.

Seriously, you ever listen to your cult’s leaders? Your mind molders? Savage, Coulter, Rush, on and on – you know, your stars.

Seems like you would have been tipped off that you were being used when you noticed your trainers were always quoting Moon’s Washington Times – but no, no critical thinking for you.

Of course we need to support Juan Cole here.
How the hell else would we know wtf was going on in SW Asia?
Through Andrew ‘ anthrax’ Sullivan?
Give me a frikkin break.
Now there is a well known syndrome of left fascists suddenly becoming lunar right fascists overnight. Sear Keith Windshuttle, David Horowitz, Michael Costa, Steven Shwartz, James A Donald and the EIR guy as well as Hitchens.
The main point is that they remain fascists.
Fascism is as fascism does.
In 1918 Marxist/Leninism became murderous. This is still well within living memory. Since they began murdering people ( much like the Xtians from 300AD onwards ) they have never stopped one day since.
Hitchens belonged to a Trotskyist sect that continues a muderous tradition of Marxist Leninism. They continue to lie about ordinary workers and anarchists to this day and practise hate speech toward peasants and anarchists and they continue to deny red fascist genocide.
They have a worse record of holocaust denial and hate speech than even the likes of David Irving.
Don’t forget the red fascists killed much more people in worse ways than even the Nazi’s. ( The Shoah had the distinction of being speedy due to factory technique’s being used and that is the major difference )
So Hitchens never recanted Leninist fascism either as witness his arselicking homage to the red fascist state terrorist Leon Trotsky in Atlantic magazine recently.
Ideologues like Hitchens were behind the ‘ Leninist’ ( Fukuyama) war policy of Bushco.
PERMREV = world revolution through state terror.
But Hitchens is no consistent supporter of the poor and downtrodden as can be seen by his silence on Burma ( Orwell worked in Burma and wrote about it – Hitchens is silent in spite of his access ) Hitchens smears on Niger border on racism imho.
Now as for his book’s. I believe he cribbed the idea for the Mother Teresa one from an Irish writer and the Kissinger book was cribbed from Sy Hersh and a Greek journo/writer whose name also escapes me.
Hitchens is very economical with the truth as he see’s it. ( through a glass darkly )
It is disgraceful beyond belief that such a liar ( ask him about Chalabis encryption prowess!)
and such a fascist gets airspace.
It is extremely telling though that extreme ideologues like Hitchens and Ledeen are the last two standing behind the Niger lie. The BIG LIE behind the supreme crime that was Operation Iraqi Liberation.
With Ledeen said to have had a hand in creating this Casus Belli then Hitchens role became that of a Goebbels figure selling it. He was aided and abetted in this essential side of the supreme crime by the excrescent ‘ Lord Haw Haw’ Andrew Sullivan.
Fuck you all to hell Chris Hitchens and you Sullivan you ‘ useful idiot’ tool. Cheats must never prosper – ever.
These filthy lying fascists need to be kept under the spotlight of truth. Thanks Jane and FDLers interested in deconstructing fascist ideologues and ideologies.
SLATE and Newsweek you are on notice. If you know what’s good for you you will sack those fascists working for you and you will do it soon…real soon.
Justice is on the march.

WOW. . .he really nailed him with the alcohol bit, love how you roll Juan!!
Way to smack-down that boozy turd. My only regret is that I’m a poor (but cute) college girl and can’t take his classes ):

And a bisexual to boot. I’m sure we’ve all heard about Hitch’s adventures at Oxford with Bill Clinton and Mandy Meryck, right class?

Roz Kaveny’s memories of Hitchens and Clinton at Oxford:

Hitchens has latterly claimed that they probably slept with at least one of the same people – who subsequently became a famous lesbian and feminist activist. The problem with this is that the most likely candidates – Oxford in the late 60s was not exactly awash with such women – either never slept with one, or never slept with the other, or never slept with either. One woman, who shared an apartment, and a girlfriend, with Clinton, claims to remember vaguely once necking with Hitchens when she was drunk.

What is the case is that they were having sexual adventures in roughly the same quarter of the forest, with the exception that Clinton was only sleeping with women.

Cole-1,
Gin Soaked Popinjay-0

Hitch is dead meat. When he shows up drunk to events, people need to start calling him on it. Not just acknowledge it themselves — go public.

Ask him, “Hitch, have you been drinking?”

Noodles,

You don’t anything about me so don’t portray me as some kind of right-wing sycophant.

Not only do you clearly display your ignorance in a post like that, you expose yourself as one of the hateful people I was talking about.

And if you want to have a debate about critical thinking, I welcome it. Because your post is a perfect example of the lack of it.

As usual, our collective distaste for people like Hitchens overwhelms the issue which is at hand:
our total lack of understanding of another country, its language, its culture. We do not trouble ourselves to conduct our affairs in a diplomatic, reasoned fashion, we bloviate, fustigate, and bomb whoever makes us feel more “American” at the moment. And, we do it all to make a limited number of people wealthier. And, when I say, “we,” I mean we. Not only the present Administration is responsible for this kind of behavior. We support this behavior by investing in stock in the companies who benefit from war, from buying their products, and from flying on their airplanes.

So let’s not just vent against a drunken writer past his prime, let us return to Prof.Juan Cole’s brilliance and his true understanding of a culture in an area of the world we have so much conflict with. He should be the next Secretary of State!

Fabulous link, Ray!

Hitchens is a bonafied douchebag -
does anyone even listen to that guy anymore?

I have said this elsewhere on line, but Hitchens is clearly losing it and may editors are not doing their job. Example? He wrote a piece in Vanity Fair last year making the ridiculous suggest that Goldwater was a southern ticket (perhaps geographcally but in no way politically!). An astute USA Today reporter Maria Puete nailed him in a subsequent letter (wryly noting how much an oxonian pedigree was worth these days..).

My pet theory is more or less this: BushCo has Hitchens either bought up (scotch for life!) ala Armstrong Williams or blackmailed somehow (note the comment on Digby about Hitchens’ lothario days at the nation…) and in return they feed him material vacuumed up by the NSA (there is every reason to believe Prof. Coles’ email circle is being listened to–as a commenter on Digby noted, it is headed by Gary Sick who raised the specter of the October Surprise by the Reagan campaign in 1980).

Worth what you pay for it.

Not only is Hitchens a drunk, but he’s a MEAN drunk.

Check Juan’s website– he has 2 updates on Hitchens– one by Helena Cobban and one re the Bill Scher post at HuffPo.

linky

http://www.juancole.com/

Has anyone stopped to actually read the arguement? Cole’s translation is not only wrong, but he also completely misrepresents the meaning of Ahmadinejad’s words. The man is an apologist for fascism.

Yes, I have read them Brendon. And what is your assertation that his translation is “wrong” based off of? Here’s the speech, as translated not by Cole, but by MEMRI
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“‘Nobody believed that we would one day witness the collapse of the Eastern Imperialism [i.e. the U.S.S.R], and said it was an iron regime. But in our short lifetime we have witnessed how this regime collapsed in such a way that we must look for it in libraries, and we can find no literature about it.

“‘Imam [Khomeini] said that Saddam [Hussein] must go, and that he would be humiliated in a way that was unprecedented. And what do you see today? A man who, 10 years ago, spoke as proudly as if he would live for eternity is today chained by the feet, and is now being tried in his own country…

“‘Imam [Khomeini] said: ‘This regime that is occupying Qods [Jerusalem] must be eliminated from the pages of history.’ This sentence is very wise. The issue of Palestine is not an issue on which we can compromise.

Not only is the “wiped from the map” a shitty translation, but it dosen’t match the passive-agressive references to other enemies that have collapsed for reasons other than Iran ’s involvement.

And if MEMRI is an apologist for anti-semitic muslim nations, then I’m a nigerian prince looking to hide my inheritance in your chequing account.

This is my first time commenting on this site, and unfortunately, it is not joyfully that I make my observations. We despise the morons on the right wing blogs for their unthinking acceptance of the right wing party line, but then descend to their same level here. How many personal attacks do we see against Hitchens? And Cole, instead of responding to the specifics of Hitchen’s argument, resorts to personal attacks. That is an indication of weakness, not strength. What difference does it make whether or how much Hitchens drinks? I read his piece in Slate and it is articulate and logical. There is no indication of sloppy writing or thinking. But the left reflexively supports Cole without even bothering to think through the issues. It’s disgusting. I am bored to death to read right wing blogs because there is such little logic there…as opposed to blind loyalty to the cause. But alas, human nature being what it is, the same is true with many on the left. Cole’s arguments are weak and in this case, Hitchens is correct. It’s strange isn’t it, that there are so few Professors of Farsi at the University of Michagan or other universities that not one weighs in? Where is the intellectual honesty here? How many on the left were left breathless b George Galloway without knowing his views? Hitchens was absolutely on target with Galloway for anyone who knows anything about Galloway’s history. Yet many on the left raved about Galloway, blissfully unaware of who the man was or what he stood for. It was sufficient that he appeared as a strong voice against Bush and his cronies. But it is not enough to reflexively mouth either left positions or right. One must always use critical thinking skills to buttress any argument. We deplore the Bush administration’s twisted logic as it destroys the Constitution yet we don’t examine the logic of some of our own positions. Hitchens has passionately argued against the loss of our personal freedoms and advocates that position relentlessly. I believe he even made himself party to a lawsuit in furtherance of those beliefs….yet not one comment on this site indicated an understanding of his logic or writings. All were content to take Juan Cole’s word for it. Shame on you.

Thank you, Sandrine, for a great post. I notice that no one has taken the time to rebut your points. That’s because you’re right. I’m posts #149 and #160.

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