Comments on: Domestic Spying At All Time High http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 16 Feb 2012 05:20:17 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: professor rat http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/#comment-88134 professor rat Wed, 03 May 2006 04:11:34 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/#comment-88134 <p>Seperating out the ‘ Waffen SS’ from the ‘ Wermacht’ will be a major post-Bush project.<br /> There will almost certainly be some ‘ Werewolve’s’ as well.<br /> Official channel’s such as De-Nazification’ and ‘ Truth and reconciliation commission’s’ and etc will only be able to do so much. Maybe when Jim Bell is released he will be able to help us set up some informal way’s and mean’s of restoring accountability. Such informal method’s already appear to be there in embryo at sites such as the ‘ Rotten dead pool’ and <a href="http://www.stiffs.com">www.stiffs.com</a></p> <p>The PAM or policy analysis market’s proposal look’s similar - netcentric voluntary and distributed but able to strike terror into the hearts of all major league criminal’s.</p> <p>Jane ,Christy and Pach are already licenced to thrill and with a little digital moneypenny they could soon be licenced to kill. Jane’s word is her bond.</p> Seperating out the ‘ Waffen SS’ from the ‘ Wermacht’ will be a major post-Bush project.
There will almost certainly be some ‘ Werewolve’s’ as well.
Official channel’s such as De-Nazification’ and ‘ Truth and reconciliation commission’s’ and etc will only be able to do so much. Maybe when Jim Bell is released he will be able to help us set up some informal way’s and mean’s of restoring accountability. Such informal method’s already appear to be there in embryo at sites such as the ‘ Rotten dead pool’ and http://www.stiffs.com

The PAM or policy analysis market’s proposal look’s similar – netcentric voluntary and distributed but able to strike terror into the hearts of all major league criminal’s.

Jane ,Christy and Pach are already licenced to thrill and with a little digital moneypenny they could soon be licenced to kill. Jane’s word is her bond.

]]> By: TeddySanFran http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/#comment-87786 TeddySanFran Tue, 02 May 2006 22:00:23 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/#comment-87786 <p>Matto — Good for you to dig into the gutter to “chat” with Joke. We need to ask the WaPoO for a followup opportunity, since he ignored the citations in your question and went on to other, more favorable questions. </p> <p>Why would WaPoO give Joke a forum anyway?</p> <p>==========<br /> Had enough?<br /> ==========</p> Matto — Good for you to dig into the gutter to “chat” with Joke. We need to ask the WaPoO for a followup opportunity, since he ignored the citations in your question and went on to other, more favorable questions.

Why would WaPoO give Joke a forum anyway?

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]]> By: Leslie in CA http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/#comment-87679 Leslie in CA Tue, 02 May 2006 20:41:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/#comment-87679 <p>cbl 18, the key phrase is just before the one you bolded: <b>“if things are done according to the book.”</b> But of course Dubya doesn’t want to do anything according to the book–the book is beneath him.</p> cbl 18, the key phrase is just before the one you bolded: “if things are done according to the book.” But of course Dubya doesn’t want to do anything according to the book–the book is beneath him.

]]> By: john in sacramento http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/#comment-87677 john in sacramento Tue, 02 May 2006 20:40:49 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/#comment-87677 <p>egregious,</p> <p><a href="http://sacramentofordemocracy.org/?q=node/view/3734">It’s html</a></p> egregious,

It’s html

]]> By: Dover Bitch http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/#comment-87675 Dover Bitch Tue, 02 May 2006 20:40:15 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/#comment-87675 <p>CNN just reported that a poll shows Lieberman beating “businessman Ted Lamont by 46 percentage points.”</p> CNN just reported that a poll shows Lieberman beating “businessman Ted Lamont by 46 percentage points.”

]]> By: Plano tex http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/#comment-87672 Plano tex Tue, 02 May 2006 20:38:18 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/#comment-87672 <p>Joe Klein is a liberal like Joe Lieberman. They both need to give up the parody and join the rethugs. They truly are an embarrassment to the left. We don’t need them expressing themselves on our behalf. In the spirit of immigration reform, they are pendejos. My favorite photo of Klein depicts him as the Village People wannabe biker. Should be used wherever Klein is sold.</p> Joe Klein is a liberal like Joe Lieberman. They both need to give up the parody and join the rethugs. They truly are an embarrassment to the left. We don’t need them expressing themselves on our behalf. In the spirit of immigration reform, they are pendejos. My favorite photo of Klein depicts him as the Village People wannabe biker. Should be used wherever Klein is sold.

]]> By: Mary http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/#comment-87668 Mary Tue, 02 May 2006 20:36:41 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/#comment-87668 <p>Matt O - who was it who coined “Jeffies”? Klein used them in the exact same manner as does Bush.</p> Matt O – who was it who coined “Jeffies”? Klein used them in the exact same manner as does Bush.

]]> By: Mary http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/#comment-87660 Mary Tue, 02 May 2006 20:33:48 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/#comment-87660 <p>angie #6 </p> <p><a href="http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/9/4564">http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bi.....cgi/9/4564</a></p> <p><i>“I feel like I’m being punished for being honest,” Provance told ABCNEWS on Tuesday. “You know, it was almost as if I actually felt if all my statements were shredded and I said, like most everybody else, ‘I didn’t hear anything, I didn’t see anything. I don’t know what you’re talking about,’ then my life would be just fine right now.”</i></p> <p>If you watched any of the c-span whistleblower hearings with Kucinich et al, the Sanchez info is not a big surprise. The young Sgt. (ok, they say he’s 30 but he looks 22) who acted as a whistleblower made it very clear how much was common knowledge and discussed a big (huge) wipe down board that had “questionable†(to hell with DOJ euphemisms) TORTURE techniques written down – a room where pretty much everyone arriving or leaving had to go through and discussed that the board info was “disappeared†when Red Cross came through. </p> <p>I have a really hard time, interesting though they may be, getting real super excited over fraud and integrity cases and charges that DOJ may be pursuing, or the Libby/Rove et al circus, when basically Justice rolled over on EVERYTHING related to this administrations Constitutional attacks. </p> <p>I’m not nearly as concerned about whether DOJ is digging dirt on some Republican candidate somewhere as I am about the fact that they have acquiesced in or propagated Constitutional attack to the point where American citizens are now pretty onboard with the concept of an Executive who, at its whim, can override other Articles of the Constitution and even the Bill of Rights, as a completely legal exercise. </p> <p>The fact that thousands of lawyers are on board with that and make no ripples – leaves me feeling ill, no matter how stellar a job they may do with tracking a Caymans account. If anyone ever writes the Nixonian follow up to this admin, it will be All the President’s Lawyers. There hasn’t even been a John Dean, much less a Saturday night massacre, or even a whimper of public protest from anywhere in the Department over warrantless wiretaps, lies to members of Congress, lies to Congress, NSLs, torture, enemy combatant parsing, the now “discretionary†nature of the Bill of Rights, criminal charges against reporters receiving info on rendition and illegal programs, etc. </p> <p>Next up I’m sure they’ll find a way to stick a Classified stamp on the Constitution and make it illegal to talk about it. Yanking 30 yo public docs and going after the Anderson’s estate for his docs is a nice warmup. Invest in Advil.</p> angie #6

http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bi…..cgi/9/4564

“I feel like I’m being punished for being honest,” Provance told ABCNEWS on Tuesday. “You know, it was almost as if I actually felt if all my statements were shredded and I said, like most everybody else, ‘I didn’t hear anything, I didn’t see anything. I don’t know what you’re talking about,’ then my life would be just fine right now.”

If you watched any of the c-span whistleblower hearings with Kucinich et al, the Sanchez info is not a big surprise. The young Sgt. (ok, they say he’s 30 but he looks 22) who acted as a whistleblower made it very clear how much was common knowledge and discussed a big (huge) wipe down board that had “questionable†(to hell with DOJ euphemisms) TORTURE techniques written down – a room where pretty much everyone arriving or leaving had to go through and discussed that the board info was “disappeared†when Red Cross came through.

I have a really hard time, interesting though they may be, getting real super excited over fraud and integrity cases and charges that DOJ may be pursuing, or the Libby/Rove et al circus, when basically Justice rolled over on EVERYTHING related to this administrations Constitutional attacks.

I’m not nearly as concerned about whether DOJ is digging dirt on some Republican candidate somewhere as I am about the fact that they have acquiesced in or propagated Constitutional attack to the point where American citizens are now pretty onboard with the concept of an Executive who, at its whim, can override other Articles of the Constitution and even the Bill of Rights, as a completely legal exercise.

The fact that thousands of lawyers are on board with that and make no ripples – leaves me feeling ill, no matter how stellar a job they may do with tracking a Caymans account. If anyone ever writes the Nixonian follow up to this admin, it will be All the President’s Lawyers. There hasn’t even been a John Dean, much less a Saturday night massacre, or even a whimper of public protest from anywhere in the Department over warrantless wiretaps, lies to members of Congress, lies to Congress, NSLs, torture, enemy combatant parsing, the now “discretionary†nature of the Bill of Rights, criminal charges against reporters receiving info on rendition and illegal programs, etc.

Next up I’m sure they’ll find a way to stick a Classified stamp on the Constitution and make it illegal to talk about it. Yanking 30 yo public docs and going after the Anderson’s estate for his docs is a nice warmup. Invest in Advil.

]]> By: egregious http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/#comment-87657 egregious Tue, 02 May 2006 20:32:18 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/#comment-87657 <p>egregious learns tags:</p> <p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/28/AR2006042801878.html">Post article</a></p> <p>Yes! Yes! Yes!</p> egregious learns tags:

Post article

Yes! Yes! Yes!

]]> By: john in sacramento http://firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/#comment-87650 john in sacramento Tue, 02 May 2006 20:29:11 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/05/02/domestic-spying-at-all-time-high/#comment-87650 <p>More related:</p> <p><a href="http://sacramentofordemocracy.org/?q=node/view/3508">Catapulting the Propaganda</a></p> <p><a href="http://sacramentofordemocracy.org/?q=node/view/3484">Bush Lies</a></p> More related:

Catapulting the Propaganda

Bush Lies

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