Comments on: Late Nite FDL: A Civility Lecture http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:52:57 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: David Ehrenstein http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/#comment-86211 David Ehrenstein Mon, 01 May 2006 16:08:20 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/#comment-86211 <p>Well then there’s Dennis Hopper, fahrender. One-time hipster — now full-time neo-fascist.</p> Well then there’s Dennis Hopper, fahrender. One-time hipster — now full-time neo-fascist.

]]> By: fahrender http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/#comment-86195 fahrender Mon, 01 May 2006 15:53:52 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/#comment-86195 <p>wesgpc (#29, etc):</p> <p>Hunter S. Thompson was a hipster. He stayed a hipster. Robert Mitchum was a hipster. Christopher Walken and Jennifer Tilly are hipsters. The guy you refer to as a one-time hipster should never even be mentioned in the same breath as hipster.</p> wesgpc (#29, etc):

Hunter S. Thompson was a hipster. He stayed a hipster. Robert Mitchum was a hipster. Christopher Walken and Jennifer Tilly are hipsters. The guy you refer to as a one-time hipster should never even be mentioned in the same breath as hipster.

]]> By: fahrender http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/#comment-86173 fahrender Mon, 01 May 2006 15:40:39 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/#comment-86173 <p>just started reading this thread. can’t go past #20 or so without screaming “JERK LINE WAS NEVER, EVEN IN HIS MOST FEVERED BRAIN-MOMENT, A HIPSTER!!!!!!!!” not possible. A dweeb maybe, whatever …………<br /> now i’ll go back and read more, oh, except to say first:</p> <p>Mary (#6), you nailed it, baby. let’s do lunch. i’ll meet you at the cedar tavern, or if that’s the wrong time zone, in front of “city lights” book store……. tomorrow at 2…….</p> just started reading this thread. can’t go past #20 or so without screaming “JERK LINE WAS NEVER, EVEN IN HIS MOST FEVERED BRAIN-MOMENT, A HIPSTER!!!!!!!!” not possible. A dweeb maybe, whatever …………
now i’ll go back and read more, oh, except to say first:

Mary (#6), you nailed it, baby. let’s do lunch. i’ll meet you at the cedar tavern, or if that’s the wrong time zone, in front of “city lights” book store……. tomorrow at 2…….

]]> By: J i O http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/#comment-86131 J i O Mon, 01 May 2006 14:47:49 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/#comment-86131 <p>Well, there goes the old news cycle as SCOTUS gives former Playboy centerfold a victory in her claim. I guess nobody will be covering a million immigrants (of hazy legal status) in the streets now.</p> <p>–</p> Well, there goes the old news cycle as SCOTUS gives former Playboy centerfold a victory in her claim. I guess nobody will be covering a million immigrants (of hazy legal status) in the streets now.

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]]> By: J i O http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/#comment-86068 J i O Mon, 01 May 2006 13:02:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/#comment-86068 <p>!ztiF</p> <p>EPU’d Zone is open. Post what ever you want ’cause nobody is likely to read it.</p> <p>–</p> !ztiF

EPU’d Zone is open. Post what ever you want ’cause nobody is likely to read it.

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]]> By: *ilson46201 http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/#comment-86058 *ilson46201 Mon, 01 May 2006 12:32:16 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/#comment-86058 <p>new thread - old spin</p> new thread – old spin

]]> By: Larry http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/#comment-86056 Larry Mon, 01 May 2006 12:28:40 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/#comment-86056 <p>Upton Sinclair said decades ago …</p> <p>“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.†</p> <p>That my friends is Joe-mentum Klein in a nut shell.</p> Upton Sinclair said decades ago …

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.â€

That my friends is Joe-mentum Klein in a nut shell.

]]> By: *ilson46201 http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/#comment-86051 *ilson46201 Mon, 01 May 2006 12:04:28 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/#comment-86051 <p>May Day from Wikipedia <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Day">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Day</a><br /> fuck Law Day and Loyalty Day !</p> May Day from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Day
fuck Law Day and Loyalty Day !

]]> By: Professor Foland http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/#comment-86048 Professor Foland Mon, 01 May 2006 11:58:38 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/#comment-86048 <p>And I have to admit, I was much happier when I thought Loyalty Day was a joke from some thread I had missed earlier. It was crushing to read the Wikipedia article.</p> And I have to admit, I was much happier when I thought Loyalty Day was a joke from some thread I had missed earlier. It was crushing to read the Wikipedia article.

]]> By: Professor Foland http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/#comment-86047 Professor Foland Mon, 01 May 2006 11:56:28 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/30/late-nite-fdl-a-civility-lecture/#comment-86047 <p>Apparently, Mr. Klein does not understand that there is a <i>reason</i> diplomats speak this way. He probably thinks it is some 17th century holdover.</p> <p> The instant you refuse to rule out nukes when asked, is the instant the NPT gets broken. In another “quaint” convention, countries that signed the NPT believe there is an implicit deal they won’t be attacked with nuclear weapons. This is really the only good motivation for being in the NPT today. The official deal–that the existing nuclear states would disarm–is now laughable.</p> <p> Diplomats talk this way because a deal made implicitly can easily be broken. The wrong words are being taken as a signal of abrogation of the implicit deal.</p> <p> I’m sure Mr. Klein thinks he’s being a plainspoken, straight-talkin’ Joe by saying this. But mainly it reveals his ignorance of the details of the most important policy issue facing the nation right now. Not a person I want trying to be an “opinion leader” on the subject.</p> Apparently, Mr. Klein does not understand that there is a reason diplomats speak this way. He probably thinks it is some 17th century holdover.

The instant you refuse to rule out nukes when asked, is the instant the NPT gets broken. In another “quaint” convention, countries that signed the NPT believe there is an implicit deal they won’t be attacked with nuclear weapons. This is really the only good motivation for being in the NPT today. The official deal–that the existing nuclear states would disarm–is now laughable.

Diplomats talk this way because a deal made implicitly can easily be broken. The wrong words are being taken as a signal of abrogation of the implicit deal.

I’m sure Mr. Klein thinks he’s being a plainspoken, straight-talkin’ Joe by saying this. But mainly it reveals his ignorance of the details of the most important policy issue facing the nation right now. Not a person I want trying to be an “opinion leader” on the subject.

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