Karl Rove returned to the grand jury to testify about a ‘discovered’ July 11, 2003 email on October 15th, 2004. [Eight days after Cooper’s motion to quash his second set of subpoenas was denied by the D.C. District Court on October 7, 2004.]

It was in October, 2005 that Rove testified on the 14th — rather than in October, 2004 as I mistakenly stated in my previous comment.

Only in terms of testimony.

Judge Hogan, quoted in a recent post here on firedoglake, asserted that Judith Iscariot Miller was equally guilty of a crime as was her source.

I disagree that Matthew Cooper isn’t equally in that same category. He certainly withheld his knowledge of the crime froom Fitz.

But then, he’s funny. He has a standup comedy routine. If a man has hobbies…. hey! — maybe we’ll let off the next bad actor because he has model trains in his basement!!

That’s a hobby…

Richard D. Felsing

On September 13, 2004, the grand jury issued a second set of subpoenas to Cooper and Time seeking testimony and documents relating to “conversations between Matthew Cooper and official source(s) prior to July 14, 2003, concerning in any way: former Ambassador Joseph Wilson; the 2002 trip by former Ambassador Wilson to Niger; Valerie Wilson Plame a/k/a Valerie Wilson a/k/a Valerie Plame (the wife of former Ambassador Wilson); and/or any affiliation between Valerie Wilson Plame and the CIA.”

Cooper and Time moved to quash these subpoenas and, on October 7, 2004, after briefing and a hearing, the district court denied their motions.

That is an excerpt from:

Http://www.usdoj.gov/osg/brief……resp.html

This second set of subpoenas is what was appealed to the Supreme Court by Matthew Cooper, without success. Thus these subpoenas are what eventually led, after the Supreme Court denied a hearing on the matter, to Cooper’s testimony on July 13, 2005 about his July 11, 2003 conversation with Karl Rove. [The first set of subpoenas which were also opposed by Cooper (and Russert) were complied with without appeal, after the District Court denied Cooper’s motion to quash on July 20, 2004, and the Court proceeded to hold Cooper in contempt on August 9, 2004, and Fitzgerald then agreed to narrow the boundaries of the subpoenas so as to protect confidential sources: thus, on August 23, 2004 Matthew Cooper testified about his contact(s) with Scooter Libby (who had released Cooper with a waiver sufficient to satisfy Cooper). Russert testified August 7th].

But Cooper’s August 23, 2004 testimony apparently alerted Fitzgerald and the grand jury for the first time to another confidential conversation Cooper had in 2003… Thus the follow-up set of subpoenas on 9/13/04 to Cooper and TIME which eventually led to Cooper’s July 13, 2005 testimony about his talk with Karl Rove.

Meanwhile, Karl Rove returned to the grand jury to testify about a ‘discovered’ July 11, 2003 email on October 14, 2004. [On October 13, 2004 Cooper was again held in contempt of court, for refusing to comply with a 10/7/04 court order enforcing his second set of subpoenas. On October 7 Judy Miller had likewise been held in contempt. Together they began their appeals.] This 7/11/03 email was ‘discovered’ between January, 2004 (or March) and October, 2004, according to Rove’s attorney Luskin. Luskin supposedly asked Rove to ask the “White House” to search for any such record of a conversation between Rove and Cooper (presumably whether already turned over via previous document subpoenas or not). [Is there any record of the date Rove made this request to the “White House” I wonder?]. Apparently, as Rove and Luskin must have deduced if not known, Fitzgerald did NOT already have this July 11, 2003 email as a result of earlier subpoenas, or the grand jury would have handled the questioning, and follow-up subpoena, of Cooper differently in August and September, 2004.

With the first round of Cooper’s subpoena resistance futile by August 23, 2004, Rove and Luskin decided not to chance it on the second September 13, 2004 round of Cooper subpoenas specifically targeted in the direction of Rove, and concocted their little email scenario between August and early October, seems to me. They conveniently brought the hidden email to light for Special Counsel Fitzgerald (presumably) just prior to the October 7, 2004 D.C. District Court ’round one’ loss for Cooper in his attempt to avoid testifying about his second source’s conversation [a conversation in confidence to which Cooper continued to believe he was bound absent a clear and specific waiver from Rove about that conversation; this is the 7/11/03 “double super secret background” conversation which of course Rove claims he innocently forgot all about but yet only managed to “waive” for Cooper the day Cooper faced incarceration in July, 2005 — and thanks then only to the loose lips of Attorney Luskin and the smart and swift lawyering of Cooper’s attorney].

And not until October, 2005, a year after Rove’s sudden confession and production of evidence about his 7/11/03 “forgotten” talk with Matthew Cooper, did a further flourish get produced for the Rove story in the form of Viveca Novak. Novak, claims Luskin, was supposedly the REAL reason the hidden email was “found” months after her involvement, rather than, and instead of, the ongoing and looming further verdicts of the Judicial Branch which, in late summer and early fall, 2004, were slowly but surely forcing the truth out into the light…

First Rove “forgets” his conversation with Cooper. He didn’t lie, he just forgot. So he claimed.

Then, after his coversation with Cooper is exposed, he claims it couldn’t be a lie because HE KNEW “that Cooper might someday testify against him”. Therefore, he didn’t forget after all. He lied in attempting to cover up his comversation with Cooper. Then he lied a second time to cover up his lie.

If I have this straight, he’s caught in his own web of lies.

“ I can see Fitzgerald wanting to give the grand jury a look at Rove. As Christy said this morning, it would probably become quickly apparent what an inveterate ratfucker he is.“

(And I am being serious, not snide like Brady.)

9/11 see video: http://www.lonelantern.org/rummy.html

7/7 see video: http://www.lonelantern.org/lon…..rills.html

Chicago Tom said…

AS A CHICAGO RESIDENT, AND WITH BUSH’S POPULARITY IN THE DUMPSTER, AND

REMEMBERING ALL THE “DRILLS†OF “HIJACKED PLANES†on 9/11 — koinky-dink?

THREE DAY DISASTER DRILL SET FOR CHICAGO NEXT WEEK.

I HOPE IT’S JUST A DRILL. My fellow chicagoans, duck and cover.

And this is GETTING NO COVERAGE in Chicago. All that media in Chicago looking the other way. Scares the shit out of me. Spread the word, maybe we can prevent the next 9/11, 5-2?

http://www.belleville.com/mld/…..445338.htm

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Whee!