I fully admit this makes no sense to me:
THE spinners have spun at the Washington Post. Bob Woodward, and you can't get hardly no more bigger name associated with that big newspaper, even talked the R-word. Resignation.
It's still about the Weapons of Mass Destruction - Judith Miller - Valerie Plame - Ambassador Joe Wilson - Scooter Libby - special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald problem. It's what did he know, and when did he know it, and why didn't he know he should have said what he knew.
Ostensibly, during all this uncovering of a covered CIA operative and while former N.Y. Times star Judith Miller was accused of putting out the seed for what the administration wanted planted, Bob Woodward had been allowed similar access. Of course he would. He's a Washington Post editor. A Washington, D.C., insider.
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Of course he knows everything and has super access. If not, the man wouldn't be in the position he is. But the Washington Post has suddenly decided that this isn't proper. That his knowing all about Operation Valerie Plame and never saying anything in order to protect himself and his sources has now shredded his credibility.Anyway, he is heretofore and forthwith about to be - the words being told to me are -"kept on a short leash." What that means, I don't know. Maybe even he doesn't know and they don't know.
What we do know is that the Washington Post, tarnished in the same era as America's other liberal bastion, the New York Times, could be changing the media landscape.
Okay anyone who calls the Washington Post a "liberal bastion" at this point clearly has no idea what she's talking about, so I take this with a huge grain of salt. But how can a paper that continues to employ Fred Hiatt, Jim Brady, Steno Sue and the inimitable Lil' Debbie Howell be embarrassed about anything? I admit if there were any standards in place they should be rightly concerned that Woodward sat on this story for years and has still not told what he knows about it, but still -- had a look at the post.blog recently? It hasn't been updated since April 6, and per John Casper this was sitting on the blog for five days:
Digital player - 10GB Hard Drive = USD$130 USD$140 iPod Mini 6GB = USD$145 iPod 60GB = USD$170 iPod Mini 4GB = USD$105 Apple iPod shuffle (512 MB - M9724LL/A) MP3 Player = USD$80 Apple iPod mini Green Second Gen. (4 GB - M9806LL/A) MP3 Player = USD$110 (ericsonlajastoreinc@yahoo.com)(+2348025623329) Posted by: Ericson Laja | April 20, 2006 10:58 P
For a multi-million dollar operation, that is just classy. (hat tip for the NY Post link to emptywheel)
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Fitz, come home to mama!!
gimme an F
gimme an I
gimme a T
gimme a Z
Fitz-o-licious!
I think that the reason Woodward is talking resignation is because Josh Bolton told everyone if they were thinking of leaving, they should. Bob just seems to forget which government agency he is working for.
All roads lead to 911–follow the money!
Kazuza *G*
Cindy writes for the NY Post, so any other paper is, definitionally, “liberal.”
One thing though - She has been around for ever and she actually has a lot of very high level sources among the business and political elite regardless of party in NYC at a minimum, and DC really isn’t that far away.
I wouldn’t simply dismiss what she writes as the nutty jabberings of a gossip columnist. They might be, but then again…..
I wish I had an ipod :(
FWIW –
On first read, I thought that was an allusion to Woodward scooping W’s ‘R’…
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oh yeah, I’ll take the metallic grey iPod, plz. Free engraving?
“FitzMate!”
Wow, that NY Post could teach Hamsher and Smith a thing or too, no? I’m like, so edified!
Of course, that Wash Post - no, never mind, just too goddamned depressing. At least some people were willing to face Terri Schiavo’s persistent vegetative state.
Hey Jane — Stephen Parrish reminded me offline to check out Wayne Madsen’s Report in re: Rove. Went there, caught up on the last week’s post, noticed in particular a bit on Hadley in re: outing of NOC’s (plural), including Mike Spann. Guess whose name pops up in that post?
Yup, our friendly used Kleenex, Woodie.
AARG ; ) EPU’d
scarecrow,
“The FEMA story and the Senate vote on war funding may shake up a few pundits in DC tomorrow. The imagery is pwerful: an incompetent government at its most basic responsibilities - security — with all the wrong priorities — the wheels are coming off, and there is panic in the air.â€
You’ve got that right. From Joe Scarborough to Ole’ 60 Grit. You can see it in their eyes, FEAR! And I’m not talking about losing the House and Senate in the mid terms. I’m talking about NOW, with the executive office. They “get it†finally I think, that Bush is incompetent. THAT, is a bipartisan problem IMO.
What Blank Kludge said. I, too, thought it was a reference to W and the R word. Alas.
When Bernstein’s recent piece came out, I remember hearing that he thought Woodward was a tool, even during watergate. There’s only so long you can keep a tool sharp and this one is way past that time.
Was that a gossip column? It made no sense to me, neither.
I guess now we know who suggested Ben Domenech as a WaPo blogger.
So is the NY Post just upset that they didn’t get insider information also?
Sounds a bit, “me too!”-ish if you ask me.
What does fitz mean?
I think our CEO President is fast approaching his Ken Lay Enron moment…..when the business is in full collapse and he’s telling people everything is fine.
How many more things can come unravelled at this point?
The two bick ticking bombs are Iran and Iraq. They can throw the whole world into a tailspin.
-GSD
Ipods listed for sale, that’s just the class act. I can’t help but wonder if one of the snarky types around here posted that one and sat back grinning…
Why are we still surprised or at least scratching our collective heads about the direction of the Post? It’s bloody clear by now that the WaPost is committed to the conservative GOP path. Maybe it’s economics and deciding to follow Fox into the rich wonderland of meaningless corporate image ads, maybe it’s political true-belief by management and owners; but whatever, the Post is by-God committed and that’s the way it is. We probably need to get over it and continue to re-invent the way news and opinion and cutting-edge investigation is done in the twenty-first century.
Oops, the kid is hungry and I think something is burning in the oven. How do you-all find the time for this?
Other media things today that really irked me -
Tony Snowjob. Maybe I’m overreacting, but hiring a blatant Fox Ho as your WH press secretary? Why don’t they just come out and call Spin rather than explaining the decider’s deciding decisions? Talk about blurring the freakin’ lines. Is there any pretense of providing real information anymore? And what’s up with the constant “decider” meme?
Did I hear Brian Williams claim that the film United 93 reminds us why we’re at war right now? WTF?
Cindy Adams has contacts in the CIA? Further down in the linked piece, she writes:
Murblings and burblings will soon come out of the CIA. Mad as hell, they’re not going to take this anymore. Whenever something goes kerflooey warwise, globalwise or governmentwise, it’s always “There’s a gap in the CIA intelligence.” Insiders are telling outsiders there ain’t been no gap in their intelligence
(I bought a Mac laptop from a guy who threw in his ipod in the deal. It’s a totally early one and weighs about fifty pounds, 10 gb. Some Chinese billionaire overlord collector is gonna buy it from me for a million dollars on ebay. Then I’ll be able to pay the mortage and buy food for a month.
Charles Whitely
Are you serious? You don’t know? It’s like yelling “fore!” in golf. It’s a ceremonial start to a new topic. Refers to Patrick Fitgerald. Also a play on the word “first.”
Boy that Kornblut article is just so pig sloppy it’s hard to know where to begin. You look for any actual news but it’s all just so wrong you wonder if she’d recognize any if she fell into it face-first.
Thanks for the link to the WaPo
blog. It’s funny.
a sample:
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Hello? Is this blog dead? You should remove the link off the homepage if you’re not going to update in at least once a week.
Here’s a suggestion for things you could write about: how about responding to all of the people who have taken time to write their concerns and questions here?
I don’t know, dead blog, ignoring your comments. I think it’s begining to smell in here.
Posted by: Beth | April 19, 2006 05:23 PM
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I’ve made up my mind, I’m running for the vacated positions of Executive Editor, Ombudsman, moderator, and janitor of post.blog. I’ll play the devil’s advocate. I’ll be the government shill. I’ll drop in every now and then to see how things are going.
With the pace of this blog nowadays, I think that 10 votes would put me over the top. The same number would remove me from office and have my name replaced in all official records with the phrase, “that filthy criminal”.
Let the voting begin.
Oh, yeah…did I mention the tax cuts?
Posted by: smafdy | April 26, 2006 10:11 PM
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Pore wittle bwog.
Posted by: AJ | April 22, 2006 09:09 PM
Sharkbabe -
$10 million USD? Sounds like you’re made. Gas is covered for the rest of the month!
cleter - #23
Next time you golf or hit the driving range, you should do that. Instead of yelling “fore!” just yell “Fitz!” It’s the “Marco - Polo” to find liberal bloggers.
Apple recently claimed that bloggers aren’t journalists, so it’s appropriate that was posted on the WashPo blog. :)
And, oh yeah, Apple is definitely evil.
Jane -
Did you get my latest e-mail?
EDIT: I like the “You can only post a comment every 15 seconds. Slow down, cowboy” error page. Nice touch.
mommybrain says:
“When Bernstein’s recent piece came out, I remember hearing that he thought Woodward was a tool, even during watergate.”
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Woodward is ex-naval intel (how’s he land WaPo?)
Bernstein burned leather covering the cops, iirc. (IOW, a ‘real’ reporter.
If you watch ‘ATPM’ you might notice that Bernstein is watching as W is typing THE FIRST REPORT. Bernstein ‘corrects’ W’s lede. Says, “You’re burying the key point.” Or words to that effect. It’s possible that Berstein’s journalistic instincts truly ‘broke’ the story. Purely by chance.
EPU’d…
Ohhhh….shit, shit, shit…
First word of a massive U.S. outbreak of bird flu has just hit — In Florida. Jeb Bush just announced a statewide quarantine to deal with it. Avian carcasses are littering the state. Oregon is next, followed by DC.
http://www.bgladd.com/Bird_flu_Florida.jpg
We are fucked.
meta #20– Brian Williams needs to stay home in New Canaan and sleep it off… then he needs a triple chocolatta espresso with an extra shot and then a face dunk in ice-cold water followed by a brrrrrrr shake off and maybe i will listen– get real or get out, bri- bri.
masculine_monica_nyc @ 21 -
Pissing off the people in the CIA who are 5 years or less from retirement is a REALLY REALLY bad idea.
These are people who specialize in bringing down governments. Its changed a bit from the 70’s, but the hands know it can be done. And pretty easily.
Woodward is CIA… or ona them spy plants in the media…
Interesting. On the Gainesville (FL) local news, there was a story about people pawning stuff to buy gas. They talked to a couple of the people, wwho same pretty unhappy. And they didn’t seem like, you know, progressives. Thay had a kind of GW base look about them. Also, Jeb (Jeb!) was poo-pooing the idea of gov’t invetigation of gas prices. Didn’t think it would accomplish anything. Man,if Jeb is getting a little squishy, W is in a world o’ hurt.
Woodward’s title at the WaPo is assistant managing editor. Short leash? Maybe they are going to have him start doing his job, assisting with the management of the newspaper. That would be under the thumb of the managing editor, and would involve getting news into the paper on a daily basis. As in not holding out on the paper when he has a scoop on a story of national signifigance because he wants to save it for his next book, as well as of course keep his position on the cocktail weenie circuit. How about it, Bob?
Matt O. this is especially for you.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind.....ofiteering
http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind.....nt%2C_Inc.
===BearingPoint (http://www.bearingpoint.com/portal/site/bearingpoint) was formerly KMPG Consulting Inc., the consulting division of the huge accounting firm KPMG LLP that was brought down in the Enron/Arthur Anderson scandal of 2002. On February, 8, 2001, the consulting branch was officially seperated from its parent due to a public offering on the company. When the Enron scandal broke, they changed their name to BearingPoint and subsquently acquired the operations left behind by the deteriorating Arthur Anderson….
* In July of 2003, BearingPoint was awarded a contract by USAID worth $79.5 million to facilitate Iraq’s economic recovery with a two-year option worth a total of $240,162,688.[2] (http://www.publicintegrity.org/wow/bio.aspx?act=pro&ddlC=5)[3] (http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/contract/2004/0327sweetdeal.htm) Responsibilities in this contract include:
1. Creating Iraq’s budget
2. Writing business law
3. Setting up tax collection
4. Laying out trade and customs rules
5. Privatize state-owned enterprises by auctioning them off or issuing Iraqis shares in the enterprises.
6. Reopen banks and jump-start the private sector by making small loans of $100 to $10,000.
7. Wean Iraqis from the U.N. oil-for-food program, the main source of food for 60% of the population.
8. Issue a new currency and set exchange rates.[4]====
offtopic, but Fox News has just posted a bizarre article praising Neil Young’s new album, printing the lyrics to “Let’s Impeach the President” for the first time on the web, and promising more tomorrow “about this extraordinary and eye-opening recording”.
It’s like the day Gellman and Linzer published that great article in WaPo on the same day as their infamous “A Good Leak” editorial.
LINK
I did, Matt. Now that I’m Late Nited for the evening I’ll get a chance to read it, I’m really excited about the whole war profiteering column.
Did you see Robert Greenwald’s comment at the end of the thread last night? Pretty cool.
meta 20 - why keep up any pretense. I’m surprised they didn’t hire fucking Rush.
United 93 is gonna be more 9/11-porn-Bush-terra-war promoting bullshit. Fuck this HORSESHIT.
EVERY SINGLE 9/11 death is on Bush and Dickhead’s hands, every single one. God help this infantilized propagandized reptile-brain dying country.
obsessed -
Someone had to hack FOX News.com…
Jane -
I did! The pressure’s on. Hopefully I won’t disappiont.
BobbyG, you are a bad, bad person. I’m in Florida. That’s not funny. Well, maybe a little funny. You are a bad person.
cleter -
LOL! just that you can still post is a sign that all is not yet lost.
Cleter-
I don’t have an iPod like the cool kids either.
Let’s be friends.
BoobyG-That wasn’t funny! I’m in Florida….
my heart dropped 3 inches and I dropped my wireless mouse on the floor and the batteries came out.
BobbyG
No Ipod for you!
Personally, I’m with Steve Gilliard on this one. Bush is broken man. He won’t make it through his full second-term. I’ll be surprised if he makes it through the rest of this year without passing out drunk in front of a live audience. He’ll resign.
sharkbabe — couldn’t agree more. I’m tired of all the wingnuts thinking they own 9/11 or something. I was gonna do a post about it tonight but told John Amato I’d wait until tomorrow. The studio only advertised the movie on right-wing sites because, you know, wingnuts are the only ones who care.
Oh well, I got a good one to go with my post ;)
cleter 35 –
I’ve read stories of people pawning their wedding rings to buy gasoline — times are tough for the paycheck to paycheck Americans.
T Rex
Ok.
BobbyG - don’t do that. You know I believe it and go all paniced and stuff. :-)
Some Ohio news…
A Democratic candidate running in a congressional primary sends out a mailer asking voters to support him over his opponent who “has been ENDORSED by the STONEWALL DEMOCRATS, who are a GAY/LESBIAN political action committee”.
The blogs responded. People called his endorsers. The UAW pulled their endorsement of the guy.
Sometimes I just love the “internets”.
cleter -
There is still time to escape, go NW to LA (lower Alabama), there’s no government there. You will be safe for now.
neurophius 36
That’s always seemed shaky to me. Funny, that job should be Bernstein’s. He’d actually be doing it; and well. As in a real, professional journalistic product.
sharkbabe
abso-fuckin’-lutely. Do they still say ‘word’? Well, even if they don’t ‘edifying’ should do. Inside job or whatever, the truth has not been told.
Perfect prescription, angie. I never watch him but was surfing for news about Rove and there he was saying this absurd stuff. Punk.
When I was walking to work today I started thinking that with all this negative stuff in our world, it will be important to visualize or imagine what it would be like to have W gone in 1,000 days or sooner. You know, like Lennon suggests. Imagine a President who can speak English. Imagine a President who has an idea in his head; a brain, too. Imagine a President who cares about something other than power and money and frat boy chatter. A Vice President who stands for something other than greed and duck hunting. Imagine a real person with a sense of humanity and leadership. Imagine a President who would inspire public service in the American Public Wow.
Matt O.- check up thread - my comment was moderated and just appeared.
cranky -
No matter how bad it gets, I could not see the man who defies all facts actually resigning because of them. Bush and his lackies are addicted to power, to the point of fixing elections and disenfranchising voters. I doubt he would resign. He’s a defiant guy.
I think a standoff at the White House as if it were a scene from Brian De Palma’s Scarface is more likely than resignation. He’d have to be forcefully removed rather than quietly leave on his own.
Thanks V.G.!
BobbyG
What, go to Dothan? Mobile? No thanks. I worked for an entire summer on a dig in Lower Alabama. That was plenty for me.
Sharkbabe– you are so right about United 93– I was very near NYC on 9/11/2001 and waited til 2am for survivors in my hospital, none came. One guy had chest pain on the train home mid morning. He survived, thank goodness. Red Cross was unavailable then, they are as corrupt as ever now and so is FEMA and now we have no recourse to save our people. This movie is meant to make money and raise ire. I will not see it.
We need to change the circumstances and the slogan. IMPEACH.
van der hei’s got new Ruskin/Rove spin up at Wapo.
BobbyG — you are not a bad person, but you probably started another “War of the Worlds” panic and could be locked up, rendered, tortured, and help forever, with no habeas corpus. I just went outside to check my flamingo, and its fine.
Jane — there are signs of “conservatives” bailing all over. Why not the WaPa too? It’s just prudent “repositioning” in case it all comes crashing down very quickly, as now seems possible.
Jane -
In regards to the 9/11 movie, I think the studio should donate at least some proceeds (though all would be best) to the 9/11 families. Their tragic loss is the production studio’s financial gain.
Laura can take over for Bush. The Republican party is already asking her, rather than him, speak at their funkytions. One show tonite said she is polling at 80% favorable…
Turthout.org says Rove got a target letter. How reliable is that website?
Imagine President Feingold. Imagine W’s White House staffers, with tears staining their piggy little faces, vindictively yanking the F keys off of their keyboards.
“Did I hear Brian Williams claim that the film United 93 reminds us why we’re at war right now? WTF?”
Brian Williams is a friend of Rush Limbaugh.
By the way, folks, we better get ready for more ugliness.
The Ramesh P. book; “Party of Death” is hitting the stands.
Ann Coulter is releasing her “Godless” book on 6/6/06—no kidding, like it is a 1960’s William Castle horror movie with a gimmick.
Michael Savage is calling for the death of “100 million Muslims”.
I have heard more than one winger calling for “executions” for treason for the press “leakers”.
They are ramping up here folks and it is bad.
The “Hutu Power” on the right is beginning to coalesce.
-GSD
and on topic: I also found this story, and the timing of it, to be absolutely bizarre. The WaPo has been going out of its way to become an over-the-top right wing shill rag and now suddently, out of the blue, THIS??the
I will be very surprised if this isn’t a the pre-emptive move to soften the impact of something that’s about to come out vis a vis the Fitzgerald investigation.
And from a right & wrong standpoint, I respectfully disagree on Woodward. I think his unforgivable crime of sitting on the Plame scandal until after the election is the worst thing that he or any other journalist or newspaper has ever done … period. It dwarfs the combined dubious efforts of Hiatt, Steno Sue, Deborah Howell et al. The only mitigating factor, which in no way saves Woodward from eternal damnation in my view, is that the NYT & Time are guilty of the same act of journalistic high treason.
is it this guy matt o who is doing something on federal spending, and waste?
Ghostman
WTF!?
“5. Privatize state-owned enterprises by auctioning them off or issuing Iraqis shares in the enterprises.”
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I don’t think that J. Heller had the reality imitating art in mind when he created Milo Minderbender in ‘Catch-22′.
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‘Holy-Crap!’
oh scarecrow, that is sooooo funny! I’ll bet the condo-commandos would die if someone put them all over the lawn while they were sleeping..I can just see them all waking up with all them damn birds….
Ghostman #70
Yes.
With a name like truthout it would be silly to make things up.
scarecrow -
LOL!
I don’t make the news, I just report it. The pink flamingos in my Mom’s yard in Palm Bay are on their asses, dying, flopping all over the place horribly. The gurgling, choking death throe sights and sounds are unbearable.
Oh and re bird flu - I went and saw V for Vendetta yet AGAIN tonight (4th time), my achingly pretty friend loved it in that sit-through-the-entire-credits-can’t-talk-for-awhile way. Then we had a great gab & nosh in a cheap italian place. What eyes, what a smile. I’m still high.
At this point the American neofascisti can pick and choose at leisure - binladen, disease - no end to fear stimuli. But humans are still out there, living life, enjoying other humans and saying fuck you by their existence.
an ancient Oklahoma proverb says:
If you can’t dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with your bullshit
the WaPo kinda makes sense thru that filter
cleter says:
April 26th, 2006 at 8:35 pm
T Rex
Ok.
Yay.
Angie: #61- How can you say that about the Red Cross. They got there a day early, remember?
Bobby G - you bad boy - that was funnier n hell.
the latest cool twist:
the I-Pawned
as in “I pawned this to buy gas”.
it’s all the rage.
73: well, if interested, you might want to peruse a book by melissa rossi, “what every american should know about who’s really running the world”. Among many things, you’ll find stuff on haliburton, iraq, and lots more goodies.
Ghostman
Thanks Ghostman.
Bobby G~ that was sooo funny! I can’t wait to print it up and post it in my office…Can I use your text?
If I was writing a book on the same story line as 911, I think I would place the president at a book reading with his security advisor in Katherine Harris’s district in Florida on the morning of the event.
cranky @ 48 -
ITS MORNING IN AMERICA!
Problem is, after a night of coke, whiskey and flirting with fascism, the Republicans are waking up with a throb and the somewhat blurry vision of George’s head on the pillow next to them.
Closing their eyes slowly (so the sound doesn’t wake the slumbering dauphin) they are silently constructing the alibi for their electoral wifey-poos.
“He didn’t mean a thing to me. And I was drunk.”
ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (CNN) — Prosecutors asked a judge to rethink granting 9/11 families suing airlines access to evidence gathered for the criminal case against al Qaeda terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui.
U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema’s April 7 order requires prosecutors to provide copies of all unclassified aviation security documents to attorneys representing September 11 families in a civil lawsuit pending in New York.
Prosecutors called the order “unprecedented” and urged Brinkema to withdraw it. The motion was filed by Chuck Rosenberg, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia.
Brinkema’s order would allow the families’ attorneys access to “highly sensitive” law enforcement documents and could compromise the continuing investigation into the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The inquiry is “the largest criminal investigation in our nation’s history, which is still ongoing,” the motion says…
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“Ahhh.h.h… I love the smell of civil action contingency fee money in the morning. Feels like Victory.”
Sorry. Nothin’ personal. This is business.
Yeah, cynical.
Catching up old topics b4 my battery runs out.
Lisa below - eventually we woul know, but not necessarily very soon. At some point, the plea deal cut goes to a judge. There is the chance of a plea being seale, but eventually word will out. IMO, not for awhile though.
Parsing: I have to say this again. The Whitehouse is under fire and it needs any blatant good news it can get. So if Rove has not ever received notice of being a target - at this point you preach it. You don’t say “in connection with this appearance yada yada. The significance of the target letter or notification vis a vis today is that if Rove was testifying and is a target, he needs some notice to be able to take the fifth if and as needed. If a plea deal or a limite testimony deal were cut prior to the testimony - everyone “could” be telling the truth. Rove “could” have receive a target letter, he could have discussed either a plea or limiting testimony with the Prosecutor, and gone into today knowing that, in connection with this appearance, he is not a target.
No way does Luskin say it that way if it is plain and simple that Rove is not and never has been, a target. IMstronglyheldO
GSD, you said something a long while back about Ashcroft and I have to disagreee. I think that the original DOJ investigator (was that Dion?) and the FBI guys probably get the initial kudos. Comey did probably help with arranging the recusal, but I have to wonder how Ashcroft’s knowledge of, and perhaps even BLUNT statements made to him about, the Abramoff investigation may have factored in. I put someting up a bit ago, but one of the released Abramoff emails is very bad for Ashcroft and his COS, David Ayres. Conyers and Dems on the House Judiciary are trying to get a special prosecutor appointed on that matter.
Frederick Black (acting USA for Guam and CNMI) and another DOJ lawyer authored a classified report that determined immigration issues should be taken back from regional CNMI control bc of national security issues. Abramoff was lobbying for CNMI, who did not want to give up immigration control, as they have what is basically a slave labor textiles arrangement with immigrants and can still label as “made in the USA”
So Abramoff has Ashcroft’s COS, Davi Ayres, out to his skybox and Ayres leaks to Ashcroft that the classified report is going to be bad for CNMI. Abramoff sends off emails to client, explaining this, and that there will be basketball games with Aschroft later, and he thinks he can get Aschcroft to take care of it at his level, and that they don’t have to worry about Ashcroft, just his “underlings” and there is other scuttlebutt that Abramoff was actually given the classified report itself.
More importantly - Congress is NOT given the report, ever,perio. Then Black begins investigating Abramoff and the Guam Superior court and is kicked out of his acting USAtty slot, demoted from where he had been before he took that slot, and prohibited from doing any corruption investigations (in a sequence of actions that reputely tie back to Karl Rove)
So I just have to wonder how altruistic were the motives behind Ashcroft’s recusal and how much Dion(? the initial espionage DOJ guy) and the FBI and knoweldge of other matters helped make up Ashcroft’s mind for him.
Despite all the other Abramoff matters, except for the Conyers inquiry, the emails about Ashcroft sure don’t get much press.
Final note - imo, we won’t know for awhile what is going on, if Rove has made ANY kind of deal at all and maybe even if he hasn’t. What we don’t know for sure about Rove, there is a good chance Libby’s lawyers don’t know for sure either (and Hadley’s, Cheney’s or anyone else’s) and if I were the Prosecutor, I’d be happy with things just like that. For now at least.
Okay, since this is late nite I’ll be the conspiracy theorist. The info about Flight 93 available from various “conspiracy threads” make for some reading. Frankly, I think there is something totally bogus about the “official version” and what finally got to me was that reported communications via cell phones from the flight. My cell phone hardly works in my brick building (and it’s on the ground). Usually have to go outside. Doubtful that cell phone conversations could have take place as reported from Flight 93 (being way up there in the air was a much bigger tech challenge than brick buildings are) and there is data about this.
Now that’s funny.
Also, $10 the movie tanks.
Leslie -
Have at it.
:)
“The pink flamingos in my Mom’s yard in Palm Bay are on their asses, dying, flopping all over the place horribly. The gurgling, choking death throe sights and sounds are unbearable.”
OMG, thanks for the warning. I just unbolted my two plastic pink flamingos from my front yard and put them in my garage out of harms way till this blows over.
did anyone mention how truly bizarre W was at the Snow announcement … his body language was very angular strange and his usual folksy delivery of the “you shoulda heard what I said about the other guy” line was so off … made me look up at my tv to see if he was robotic W or something.
ccmask– yeah, I remember.
I was a manager at a hospital and the ER waiting room quickly, by 10 am, was full of citizens begging to give blood. My COO asked me to talk to the Red Cross and they said– NO CAN DO– over and over and over again. I told them we would take the donations, the spokesperson said: tell all the people we will orgainize a drive next MONTH. blergh. They knew what was going on and never said…
Sharkbabe- is this the previous new friend, or a new new friend? Haven’t been wanting to ask before, cuz I didn’t see a follow up to the audacious email adventure..
Coz - you mentioned Scarborough going after fema, etc - Scarborough was one of the best (I am not kidding) during Katrina - he was livid and his broadcasts slammed W and DC every night. He and his wife organized relief work with their church (which I gather is one of those mondo crystal cathedral type places) and drove supplies into families, etc. I can’t stand his politics but he was stellar throughout that stretch.
89-the cell phone thing puzzled me also…but it may have been bad reporting by the officials? perhaps the passengers were using those air-phones on the back of the seat.
And, there are several reports of a piece of wreckage found 20 miles away…never figured that one out either.
As an overview, and I said this the other night…the gov’t is it’s own worst enemy. It would be better to release most everything in its files and be done with it.
Ghostman
Laugh mission accomplished. Love y’all. Gonna go crash.
‘Net neutrality. Vital. Cannot be understated.
I think BobbhG meant cannot be overstated.
BobbyG
Bobby G. That was GREAT. I copied it and sent it to all of my Florida relatives, before I read the posts telling you how much you had scared everyone, so now I’ll probably be in trouble, too.
OT, but I saw a great sign in the back of a car today, three inch high letters saying: IMPEACH and SHACKLE (Maryland license plate here in NM)
Ghostman- and, apparently there were a lot of investigative issues that weren’t addressed by the 9-11 commission. Agreed on your larger point.
neurophius -
Oops. Too much Shiraz…hic.
I’ve had a crazy day. I gotta go hit the pillow. Really.
This addictive place…
siun@93~
I didn’t actually see the whole thing, but Jon Stewart did a thing tonight on the announcement, and it was hysterical. I think it was the body language along with the verbal garbage that were targeted.
102….yep, much not looked into. Notice how everything on “Able Danger” suddenly went quiet? Nary a peep lately.
Ghostman
Suin: Funny you should mention W. I couldn’t take my eyes off him–he was really strange big time.
Well, Fitz among yourselves….I’ve got a long day tomorrow. Night.
Hugs Bobby G. I used to have a string of Flamingo lights but I gave them to friends in Florida. Similar can probably still found on the internet for purchase.
Mary,
Are not Ashcrofts recusals from Abramoff and Plame/Wilson separate?
I was just making a hunch of a guess. My friend who covered the JD said that Ashcroft was as from all of his dealings a pretty honorable guy. Second hand character assessments are suspect, I know.
My feelings were that he may have actually “gotten Jesus” and realized that he was working for the anti-Christ and decided to get out of Gomorrah before it got too hot.
Then again, maybe he was covering his ass.
-GSD
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siun,
Scarborough is going after BUSH! I kid you not.
He has a “four point plan”. The transcript won’t be up till tomorrow but this is the jist of it…
1) Bush needs to fire his entire team.
2) Needs to appoint a credible Democrat to his new team.
3) Needs to get, or tell us the Iraq “end game”, “stay the course” isn’t cutting it.
I forget the other, the fourth ; ) LOL
Siun 93
Leslie 104
Did you notice that strange smirk on Bush’s face while Smowjob was speaking at the lectern and Bush was standing to his right? He smirks often, but this one had a peculiar childlike quality about it. I think he’s tickled to death at the coup he pulled by hiring Smowjob. Maybe he thinks it will save his sorry ass. Or maybe Faux News promised to buy him a pony.
Funny that Mr. Snow—the guy who was going to be “open” and “communicative” with the media….was quickly shuffled out of the room with nary a question taken.
They even lie about lying now.
-GSD
P.S. Chimpy must be stoked on some serious meds. Phizer and Merck must have annexes in the Lincoln Bedroom by now.
Snowjob
About Bush intro Snow;
I ‘heard’ it (TV not in view) GWB voice seemed…distant, hollow, disinterested; dare I say it “resigned”. And his little ‘you should heard what I said about the other guy’ was anything but smooth. Seemed like he was running in background in his brain. Halting. Had to search for it.
FWIW
I wonder who writes Bush’s funny little lines for occasions like that? Maybe that’s who he should really consider replacing.