FITZ!

“lying in an effort to discredit those with whom you disagree will not be tolerated”

This has become the norm because of this administration. BushCo does it so well and the GOP base has has watched and learned. Corruption and lying is a-ok with these guys.

Almost FITZ!!

Here’s the response to Fund’s lying column that I sent to WSJ opinionjournal on April 24th– funny they did not print it. ;)

Subject:
Re: Cole Fire

Comment:
I am awestruck by the sheer disingenuousness of this attack on Professor Cole. Have you read any of his work??? I find him to be a remarkable resource and invaluable voice to be heard. Wow. How long did it take for you to concoct this hateful diatribe? Don’t you think that college students could benefit from his vast knowledge? Do you know that he is actually doing more (via his Library of Americana Translation Project) than our own government to win the “hearts and minds” of people in the Arabic world?

John Fund of the WSJ… lying? again ?

And we are surprised….
Why?

Speaking of fitz, he’s meeting the GJ again today..

PLEASE FITZ, PLEASE?!

Does anyone know if they wear disquises when they sneak into Iraq?

You know …like sacks over their heads..

Just wondering

larry beats me to it. the wsj is full of right wing liars who should down sensible, moderate academics and insert their opinions in to matters that they have no right or reason for? yawn.

i do wonder about the real reason for condi and rummy’s visit in person, tho. could it be to enforce their authority with some wayward commanders? hmmm.

And Karl is meeting with his lawyer and Fitz according to John King of CNN. :>)

I can’t decide if the CondiRummy show is PR or big doin’s. I think they just enjoy being as shifty as possible, shooting around on airplanes the way they do. I am Certain the criticism from the military ret is part of it.

I hate to run errands, I”m going to miss something, I just know it!!

bye

I have May 11th in the Fitz-Rove presser indictment pool — but wouldn’t be at all upset if it were May 4th, or even April 27th.

Today, Fitz is showing Rove and Gold Bars the instruments and hot forge that await them, if’n they don’t flip and cop a plea.

heh . . .

Love the mask idea, I think that Condi would look nice as Groucho.

cleter 140 4/24: I’m scared of Romney. I’m particularly afeared of a Romney-Jeb ticket.
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It’s Romney that should be afraid of a Romney-Jeb ticket. Hope his life insurance is all paid up.

BTW….I know Prof. Cole and he is one upright, truthful to a fault, expert on the subject of Iraq and the middle east…..we should all listen more closely to him.

Not to mention.. he does not have an anti-semitic bone in his body

Two nights ago, I attended a lecture/discussion group here in L.A. One of the participants, General Wesley Clark dropped what I thought was a bomb shell.

He said that in 2002 he was walking through the Pentagon and another general pulled him into his office and closed the door. Clark said:

“He told me we were going into Iraq. I said “Why would we do that?’ He said ‘regime change.’

Clark said he went on: They want to bring democracy to the middle east. Then he showed me a memo showing the order of seven countries the US was planning on using force to bring about change. The first was Iraq, second Syria, next Lebanon, then Somolia, fifth was Libya, [I can’t remember #6], then Iran. He ended emphatically by saying “I read the memo!”

Clark said the Iranians know that this was our plan, and this is one of the reasons the Iranians don’t trust us. He also placed the blame for this strategy at the feet of the neocons.

In my mind, if this type of information was out there before the war in Iraq, the American people deserve to know this was part of BushCo’s strategy to make the world safe for Democracy.

The republican party, the corporate bigwigs in the military/industrial complex, and the upper eschelons of the military are so intertwined it’s impossible to tell where one ends and the next begins. It is getting truly scary.

One of the few insiders who speaks up is Lawrence Wilkerson. See Baltimore Sun for a real scorcher: http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne.....-headlines

He beat his girlfriend. Why wouldn’t he lie about a blogger?

neurophius 56 below thread

http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....ment-80281

Thanks for this info - it looks like those are the competing Roberts and Spectre bills. If the Senate Dems can’t dig in an CRATER the Roberts bill and filibuster on the Specter bill until we can have an investigation to know what is really going on, so we know what is or is not needed, they are worthless.

I’m glad Fitzgerald is meeting with the GJ (it will give Snow something to talk to his friends in the corps about) but we’ve hit such a sad, low point in what this country (legislation to authorize violation of the 4th Amendment?????? Gitmo releases with no charges after all this time an no explanations??????? Briefs file in Federal Court where DOJ actually claims the right to torture and to tell courts to butt out, etc.)

It’ll be hard to feel very happy/skippy about the GJ news until I get to see if the Senate Dems dig in and act like represenatives of the people re: the NSA bills, but I’ll hope for the best outcome on both fronts.

Are the planes flying into Baghdad still corkscrewing on approach to avoid surface to air missiles? I don’t remember the pilot doing that when I last flew into Newark.

Larry #7:

Here’s their disguises:
http://www.wolfblog.net/images/r226286313.jpg

The last time Condi showed up in Iraq with Jack Straw, Iraqi politicians saw it as unhelpful interference in their “democratic” process. Democracy, you understand, from our point of view occurs when they do what we want them to. Apparently the new standup act of Rice and Rumsfeld is there to sponsor more “democracy” so we can do some troop draw downs and improve Bush’s poll numbers. Priorities, people! You have to have them. To this end, R&R are there to do their shtick on a government of national unity. I can see Maliki rolling on the floor laughing his ass off over that one and replying, “Where do you think you are? Mars? Stop, stop, you’re killing me.”

Faux News alert - Karl Rove testifying before Fitz’s GJ today.

Why does anyone who expresses empathy for the Palestinian people have to be branded as anti-semetic? Smearing someone who is trying to promote some understanding of the conflict in the Middle East is totally non-productive. I wonder why people like Fund feel compelled to constantly promote their own racist agenda.

twolf1

I like it….

is that condi-licker on the left?

dead last - in a normal world, that would be a huge bombshell. In our fatigued, beat up on, Bushcrony run world, it probably won’t get a second look. *s* Thanks for the info though - is Clark looking like he’s running?

nick name suggestion for tony snow: tony faux.

you like?

ot: what is that horrid squeeling sound coming from the dc area???

uncletobt….19

Yes they are… real time.. as we blog..night and day

Uncle Toby

Sorry mispelled your handle…stupid fingers

Rove will testify for the fifth time. MSNBC now

i Why does anyone who expresses empathy for the Palestinian people have to be branded as anti-semetic?

Especially since Palestinians are, in fact, technically Semites themselves.

Oh, from last thread, I think the snow will hit the fan when the press corps starts asking the same questions they asked Scott McClellan about Plame, Iraq, and Iran and get much the same answers. The problem is an existential one. They’ve told too many lies to start telling the truth now. So Snow will be reduced to finding new ways to tell old lies. The WH press corps isn’t much to brag about but it won’t take even them very long to realize they’re still being had.

I would say that a large part of what they’re their for is to threaten Maliki of dire consequences if he demands US withdrawal they also want (for domestic consumption) to look as if they’re doing something.

Related: I’ve done a posting on the current Iranian “crisis”

Dead last #15 - I’ve been a supporter of Wes Clark for over 3 years and he’s been telling the story and talking about that since (before) I’ve known him. When I first heard it, like everybody else, I was running around with my hair on fire - but to no avail in the US political and media climate. If I remember correctly, he even talked about it during the presidential debates in 2003.

Amazingly, talking to people about this over the last couple of years has only gotten me apathetic shrugs or accusations of partisanship - after all, the general is a dreaded “democrat with an axe to grind.”

Wes is still out there telling the truth about this, though - and now he has a lot more company, with many others also coming out with the real facts from inside the pentagon, intelligence community and WH. And, since the mood of the country might now be more receptive, I’m hoping this information will get more traction as we go forward.

The great progressive change since 1945 . . . The interventions of civilian leaders are ever more detailed and explicit in matters that were once deemed military turf.
The History Channel watcher in me wonders if there is really any continuity of any Anglo-American history here. Perhaps BushCo is following the example of Stalin and Hitler.
Oh sheesh! Did I just say that?
Stick it to the “civilian” desk nazis though. They are the ones with the relative leisure to have a conscience. Troops who have their brains fried by the smells, sounds and sight of war don’t.

Juan Cole is indeed invaluable, but for insight (and snark) about Iraqi political developments, including today’s visit by Rummy and Condi, Needlenose is a vital complementary resource. ;-)

Christy, RE: Fund’s lying about Professor Cole –

Don’t tell Fund’s publishers. They know and don’t care.

Tell the people at Yale, so they know to ignore anything Fund tries to tell them.

Swopa — you are absolutely correct, and you know we love you. :) Next time John Fund lies about you, I’ll be all over his ass on your behalf (and not in any way that could be construed as enjoyable, just so you know…)

But, ’tis true, you kick out some serious analysis, my friend.

This is weird to say, but every time I look at a picture of Condi Rice these days, she strikes me as the literal representation of the devil. Her eyes are usually pointed upward so that the whites under her irises show. Really creepy. Her mouth is usually pointed downward, sneeringly, and her whole visage just seems to telegraph one word: Devil. Now, I do not usually say this about people I loathe, and would never accuse Bush, Cheney, or Rumsfeld of appearing of looking like Satan incarnate (though they behave like Satan incarnate). But Rice really looks like Satan incarnate.

If everyting is going swimmingly and Rummy is doing a “heckuva job” and we need to “stay the course,” why is James A. Baker touring Iraq to “generate new ideas on Iraq?”

Sully # 38 –

The whole rotten bunch of them are the Anti-Christ — politically for sure; and prophetically, maybe that too.

Now, if we can only convince the fundie end timers that they will be Raptured straight to Hell, for having supported and voted for the Anti-Christ — their only possible salvation is to STOP VOTING, or at least vote AGAINST the Anti-Christ Republican Party.

Sit down and let your votes NOT be counted, Fundie Rapturistas — deny Satan his victory, and keep your souls out of Hell!!!

Making up quotes to trash lefties, and not retracting them? Very interesting.

The WSJ is the new Washington Times.

i think they make the visits (unannounced)
because they used to get fawning press
coverage (how brave, how swash-buckling) when
they did. the safety angle may be important,
but it’s mainly for propoganda.

About John Fund - Shouldn’t Progressives being funding libel suits against his ilk. Think what discovery might reveal if Kerry sued the Switboaters>

For more on John Fund’s history, don’t miss this.

Christy:
I wanted to email you but I was too lazy to find the address so I hope you won’t mind that I post this instead.

You write tremendously great commentary, and you are on the scale of 10 in the level of ‘getting it’ and then passing it on category. My friendly advice to you that I wanted to email is for you to leave off with the “I’m just saying” line. That’s a clever one that many writers have used of late, but you, Christy, make your points well without having to put in that last ‘been there, seen that’ plug. “I’m just saying”,lol.

Keep up the ever so important work. You and your fellow bloggers are helping us to live free…or we will soon if all turns out well.

Juan Cole is a decent man who does incredible work…

You meant highly credible work, didn’t you?

I’d reserve “incredible” for the likes of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, McClellan — and now, of course, Fund.

Sign the petition to get rid of Rumsfeld by Memorial Day here.

Shame on them — and shame on John Fund.

Even if the allegations against Fund were unproven, every time he gratuitously lies I feel obliged to mention them. After all, you live by the sword, you die by it, Mr Alleged Domestic-Abuser.

For more dirt on John Fund, see Antiwar.com.

Just out of curiousity, did Condi and Rummy fly in on the same aircraft, or did each fly in separately in case of some unforseen “incident”?

Accountability ~ “It’s the NEOBLACK”

While we continue to tally the score on the Bush Regime’s lie card, you know the card that gave us this war, wire taps, Plame, Katrina(FEMA), renditions, torture, Pharmaceutical and Energy robber Barrons, etc.al. REMEMBER, it is our Congressional Representatives that must hold the Administration accountable.

American’s can scream blue in the face. And currently, American’s are doing so to a deaf ear. Accountability, this NeoBlack, affects everyone, not just the Administration.

Americans MUST make it clear to their Congressional Representatives that unaccountability is an egregious act of defiance of the people’s will. And the continued act of defiance by the people’s Representatives will lend itself to anarchy. Is this what the House of Representatives wish to deal with? And the Senate?

I like the way Justin Raimondo deals with John Fund’s nonsense at http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=8903

How do you know they “snuck” into Iraq? Unnanounced means dropping in without calling first. Who had to know they were coming for this not to be a sneak visit? Yourself…? The Associated Press? The Green Bay Packers? Anne Heche? Donald Trump? If the Iranians or Hamas or Hezbollah or others of their ilk had known they were coming, would you have wanted them to try to kill either of them? I hope not. Political disagreements are one thing; wising death on fellow citizens another. I’m only asking.

Whenever I want accurate information about Iraq and the middle east I go to Juan Cole. The WSJ is money oriented and so are the right wing money/ war mongers so this is not a surprise. Does anyone have the Yale email to give our support to Juan Cole.?
Sent the WSJ a pissy post. What creepy puppet people.
Looking forward to watching Tony Snowjob.

Military industrial complex warmongers. Yeah. It’s always them and their intertwining with some neocon, the cause of all wars. Them and the Joos, of course.

But Mr. Cole pales in comparison to the expertise and truthfulness of Robert Scheer. Where is he when we need him? That good, upright and honest man, he.

If only the Greenies ran the world, everything would just go so swimmingly all the time.

Let the John Fund’s of the world keep slandering and stalking…

The more they smear and slur, the madder informed and reasonable Americans will become.

And that will be a good thing.

They ’sneak in’, because it’s still a war zone. If you’re hungry, it’s because youi need to eat. People walk up stairs to get to the top. Cows give birth because their pregnancy has come to an end.

Any other questions with obvious answers?

“But Juan Cole is a decent man who does incredible work “

Juan is also a tough SOB when crossed, and I am sure the WSJ will regret this.