
Last year Harry Reid shut down the Senate in frustration over the stonewalling of Pat Roberts, Chairman of the Senate Select Intelligence Committee and his refusal to complete the long-overdue Phase II investigation into the way the Administration handled prewar Iraq intelligence. Last week’s publication by the New York Sun of the INR memo that was given to Colin Powell to carry aboard Air Force One when he accompanied George Bush to Africa in July of 2003 seems to challenge the integrity of the Phase I report of the committee’s investigation, and some serious questions need to be answered in light of the new documents.
Critics of the Committee’s Phase I report have long held that it is a highly partisan product that went out of its way to cover for the intelligence failures of the Bush administration, and it is always the document that is cited by critics of Joe Wilson to beef up their arguments against him. But unless there is another version of the analyst’s notes attached to the INR memo, the SSCI report misstates the contents of this document in a way that supports the contention of those involved in the plot to smear Wilson that his wife had a strong hand in sending him to Niger.
Up until now, the only knowledge we’ve had of what was contained in the analyst’s report came from fragments in the SSCI report. The document is quoted on Page 40:
An INR analyst’s notes indicate that the meeting was "apparently convened by [the former ambassador's] wife who had the idea to dispatch [him] to use his contacts to sort out the Iraq-Niger uranium issue."
But over at The Next Hurrah, commenters Jeff and pollyusa note that this is not the language used in the actual memo itself:
Meeting apparently convened by Valerie Wilson, a CIA WMD managerial typ and the wife of Amb. Joe Wilson, with the idea that the agency and the larger USG could dispatch Joe to Niger to use his contacts there to sort out the Niger/Iraq uranium sale question.
In the actual memo it says that Valerie Wilson had the idea that "the agency and the larger USG could dispatch Joe to Niger." The SSCI version removes the references to the involvement of these entities and distorts the paragraph to make it look like it was all on Valerie Wilson to send her husband on the trip.
One of the other favorite buttresses used by defenders of the Administration when they attempt to justify the White House contentions in 2003 that the Iraqis had attempted to purchase Niger uranium is British intelligence of the time. Deborah Howell says that Fred Hiatt relied on this information as the factual basis for his Washington Post editorial entitled "A Good Leak." But as eRiposte at the Left Coaster says, the new documents also call into question the SSCI’s findings on this front.
This is what is says in the July 10, 2003 INR memo:
On January 12, 2003, INR "expressed concerns to the CIA that the documents pertaining to the Iraq-Niger deal were forgeries." The conclusion, may, however, have been reached and communicated for the first time, somewhat earlier: the record is not clear on this point. After considerable back and forth between the CIA, the Department, the IAEA, and the British, Secretary Powell’s briefing to the UN Security Council did not mention attempted Iraqi procurement of uranium "due to CIA concerns raised during the coordination regarding the veracity of the information on the alleged Iraq-Niger agreement."
But according to eRiposte, the SSCI report makes no mention of any discussions with the British prior to Powell’s speech to the UN. Says eRiposte:
Based on the new evidence, it becomes clear that the CIA contacted the British (presumably MI6) and asked them about the 1999 "evidence" about Iraq allegedly seeking uranium from Niger. However, the wording in the SSCI report is deliberately ambiguous on this. For example, it is technically possible that the wording refers to one foreign government service having reported a claim to the CIA emanating from a second foreign government service. So, for example, CIA could have been asking MI6 whether another foreign government service (say, the French DGSE) is able to provide the evidence by means of a contract (sound familiar?). It’s hard to say, but what we can say with reasonable confidence is that the cryptic passage in the SSCI Report referred to the CIA establishing contact with British intelligence just prior to Powell’s speech. This, in itself, is a new development – especially given that the only (fake) defense that the Bushies were left with after they retracted the uranium claim in July 2003 subsequent to the Joseph Wilson op-ed was that Bush was "technically accurate" when he referred to the British in the 2003 SOTU (he was not , of course). This makes me rather curious as to what exactly was discussed with the British shortly before the Powell speech considering that whatever it was, it obviously did not provide credible evidence for Powell (or the CIA) to retain the uranium claim – and this so-called evidence related to an attempt to seek uranium from Niger in 1999 (which is what the British Government dishonestly claimed was behind their own uranium allegation). This is clearly an area for further investigation.
In other words, the feeble invocations of "British Intelligence" by Bush loyalists are even more suspect than we already thought they were. And Pat Roberts’ committee was tapdancing around all these facts of which they were no doubt aware in an extremely misleading way.
(hat tip Paul Lukasiak)
Related posts:
- Saddam Interrogation: US Still Trying to Show 9/11 Connection as Late as Mid-2004
- Pat Roberts Fights for Your Right to Lobby
- The Contents of the Fitzgerald-Cheney Interview, Annotated Edition
- The Fitzgerald-Cheney Interview: What Don’t We Know That We Don’t Know?
- The Contents of the Fitzgerald-Cheney Interview, Annotated Edition





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Fitz!
Jayt
Left a LONG EPU’d reply to you below. Don’t want to cluter up this thread. It answers your question about how appeals are done.
Pat Roberts; criminal enabler.
I dunno if I see any difference between the Valerie thing.
I do think that the fact that the Niger memos were clearly forgeries, bad ones at that, shows BUSH LIED throughout and this was a complete sham, an invention, from the get-go.
Hell, the Niger documents were drafted by Ledeen, Rove’s “right lobe” on foreign affairs and AIPAC’s Franklin was sitting at the table.
http://www.franklingate.com/niger_forged_doc.htm
Jane,
I think you are preaching to the choir here to posit that Roborts is the coverer up in chief.
I really admire your willingness to dive into the minutia this way.
Unlike the Plame thing which has devoted hobbiest (kinda like cricket fans who memorize all kinds of archane statistics), I don’t see that Robert’s misdeeds engender the same level of minute scrutiny.
Methinks a drip, drip, drip approach would be less successful if you are going after Roberts. Right now people either hate him, trust him, or don’t know who he is.
Before you can do drip, drip, drip, I think first we need a nice big overarching story line.
I know and agree with you about the Roberts cover up. I really, really agree with you. But even amoung the usually well informed folks in my circle of friends and collegues, this is not yet a story.
Just a suggestion, do with it what you like, you are certainly more skilled in this genre than I, but you may want to look for the opportunity for a “set up” piece that will contextualize the drip drip pieces to follow.
I have been a lurker at this site almost from the first day and try to go back and read both posts and comments from archive whenever I am away, so I don’t think I missed a blog of the type I am describing.
Part of the problem has been that I can’t think of single defining event with him that would be a fit metaphor for the overall issue.
Maybe that is the problem and it just means waiting for the right opportunity to come along.
chicago tom @ 4-
The narratives are starting to converge on SIMSI forging the documents in the 1999 timeframe for a completely different purpose than US intervention.
According to one version DGSE put out a call for information about who might be working some Niger mines. Voila. Twas’ the Iraqis in some narfarious plan with their good buddies the Iranians.
An endnote to the bigger Plamegate story may be who, if anyone, was working those mines and why SIMSI felt the need to concoct the Iraq story.
Good morning Jane.
You’re up and thinking Plame very early this am. :)
make that “some abandoned Niger mines”.
Ledeen shows up as being close to those who managed to get the forgeries into the DoD propaganda machine without much scrutiny.
looseheadprop — I’ve written about the SSCI Report until I’m blue in the face. It’s very integral to the Plame story and has been from the start.
I have never understood why Plame suggesting or sending her husband is worthy of mention. She worked on WMD non-proliferation; he was ambasador to Irag AND Niger. Who the hell else would be better to send.
The woman suggested her husband because she was an expert on the issue and her husband was ambassador to both countries. You can hardly find an average citizen who knows this.
The SSCI version removes the references to the involvement of these entities and distorts the paragraph to make it look like it was all on Valerie Wilson to send her husband on the trip.
Jane – That’s true, and I hadn’t even particularly focused on that part of the misquotation. But I think it goes beyond that. The SSCI makes it sound unambiguously like Plame had the idea to send her husband, whereas the actual text of the INR analyst’s notes (assuming what we got the other day is accurate) is considerably more ambiguous on the point. The “with the idea that” can be read as Valerie Wilson’s idea or rather the more general point or idea of the meeting. In fact, I read it the latter way when I read the INR analyst’s notes the other day. But obviously it was read the former way by the SSCI – which is a possible interpretation which it is perfectly acceptable to make. But what’s not acceptable is to make it sound like that’s not a contestable interpretation of an ambiguous passage, but rather the explicit assertion of the passage under consideration.
I think they should just replace Scott McClellan with a tape recorder. It would be a huge cost cutting measure and it would do the same thing that Scott did for 3 years.
Ah, Jane, I caught a typo–you said Bush loyalists, and it should be royalists!
off topic – just watching chimpy and Hu address people at the White House. A Chinese protester made it in to the press area and began screaming at Hu while he was talking. It took the SS a few minutes to get to her (seemed like longer than it should have). Anyway, they dragged her off to somewhere, probably to a dark closet for a flogging.
What’s the question again, Jane? Whether Roberts is a despicable enabler who has completely abdicated his Constitutional responsibilities to wallpaper over criminal deception by the Executive?
I’ll have to think about the answer. Let’s ask the Decider.
So what if Valerie Plame suggested her husband? From what I have understood, at least 2 people other than her, at the sub-directorate level had to approve Joe’s trip. Also my main contention is Why did the CIA not tell Bob Novak definitively that he could NOT print his article? I think this was the CIA’s way of torpedoing Cheney’s efforts to abrogate the CIA for his plans. Or they knew that the VP or President had already outed her.What was worth so much to the administration that they would gut a working operation regarding Nuclear proliferation? Was her work related to Iran?
Of course , one of the critical “checks and balances” of our form of government is that the legislative branch is given the power to investigate the activities of the executive branch; specifically congress has the ability, through the subpoena, to compel sworn testimony.
But the current case in point clearly illustrates that this “check” is quite easily corrupted. Don’t like the truth? No problem. Simply refuse to hear it.
Today, the problem happens to be Republican stonewalling. But this is a partisan issue only in the sense that the party currently in power in congress has a vested interest in stonewalling any investigation of its own shortcomings. In past times, it has been the Democrats stonewalling a legitimate investigation.
I have great respect for the 3-branch form of government established by our constitution. But I also wonder if there is not a better way to conduct these investigations — one that would limit such stonewalling while also limiting ‘trivial’ or ‘nuisance’ investigations.
-x-
Mornin firepooches!
Roberts – will join Colin rotting in hell
Jane, minor typo, it’s Lukasiak (not ck)
A lovely start to the day:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/042006Z.shtml
Somewhat OT- NOVAK’S at it again.
SunTimes
“Robert Novak said Wednesday that special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald knows who outed a CIA agent to the Chicago Sun-Times columnist but hasn’t acted on the information because Novak’s source committed no crime.”
Sure, Bobby. Keep spinning. After the US Atty’s office for N. Illinois spent 8 years convicting 75 people (and zero acquitals, btw) you’d think Novacula would just STFU. Lucky for us he doesn’t.
Raw Story has posted another welcome Plame bombshell. Jane, with so many big and little bombshells hitting the airwaves right now you’re simply going to have to type faster … seriously take care of yourself, you always do such a great job and the task is immense.Thanks
Just a technicality….
http://miawmdwtfw.blogspot.com…..etary.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..17_pf.html
Perhaps you should have titled this post “A Good Peek.”
The Dubya Stool only has so many legs on it, and each time one gets cut away, it’s harder and harder to hold the thing upright. (It’s damn uncomfortable, too.) This memo ain’t the whole story, but getting it out means there’s one less false alibi for the administration’s coverer-uppers to use.
Forgot to mention I was talking about Operation Safe Roads, which is how the former REPUBLICAN Gov. of IL was convicted, along with 74 other people. The team in the N. IL US Attorney’s office deserves much respect for years of hard work.
I just don’t get the whole “his wife arranged for him to be sent” argument. While I think it is true that Plame did not arrange Wilson’s trip, lets assume for the sake of argument that she did. So what?
Unless someone also makes the argument that Wilson wasn’t the appropriate person to send, it is just swiftboating of the “wink, wink, nudge, nudge” sort. Wilson looks to me like the right guy to send, which is why he was sent of course (not by his wife).
Whether his wife arranged his trip or not is a trivial irrelevancy. But it’s really about all they’ve got, so they’re reluctant to let it go, even if it is just the prop for a smear.
good morning everyone,
great to have you with us so early Jane. read of your nut allergy incident in the threads while catching up – relieved you are ok
WH Protester – either another show of WH incompetence in screening failures or . . .
since they have no real policy to combat trade deficit – is it typical playground level nose thumbing they so love to indulge in ?
btw, Darth is smiling b/c he’s palming a kitten or ‘memory pills’ from Pat ?
Anybody….has the grand jury meeting on wednesday been confirmed by any others?
did anyone see him walk the steps?
From Truthout:
In an interview Wednesday, Rove’s attorney, Robert Luskin, confirmed that Rove remains a “subject” of Fitzgerald’s two-year-old probe.
“Mr. Rove is still a subject of the investigation,” Luskin said. In a previous interview, Luskin asserted that Rove would not be indicted by Fitzgerald, but he was unwilling to make that prediction again Wednesday.
“Mr. Fitzgerald hasn’t made any decision on the charges and I can’t speculate what the outcome will be,” Luskin said. “Mr. Rove has cooperated completely with the investigation.”
Fitzgerald is said to have introduced more evidence Wednesday alleging Rove lied to FBI investigators and the grand jury when he was questioned about how he found out that Valerie Plame Wilson worked for the CIA and whether he shared that information with the media, attorneys close to the case said.
Fitzgerald told the grand jury that Rove lied to investigators and the prosecutor eight out of the nine times he was questioned about the leak and also tried to cover-up his role in disseminating Plame Wilson’s CIA status to at least two reporters.
Additionally, an FBI investigator reread to jurors testimony from other witnesses in the case that purportedly implicates Rove in playing a role in the leak and the campaign to discredit Plame Wilson’s husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, whose criticism of the Bush administration’s pre-war Iraq intelligence lead to his wife being unmasked as a covert CIA operative.
Jane, we’re much better off thanks to the sifting you do in separating wheat from chaff. In shining the light of your intelligence on what’s happening, you’re defeating the purpose of America’s establishment, which is to distract and entertain us with a magical side show while our economy goes into the ditch. It’s no coincidence that the Watergate scandal unfolded the last time our economy underwent a bad patch. The establishment was able to satisfy America’s need for scapegoats by handing up the heads of Nixon and his henchmen. That the economy started climbing up again made everything seem neat and tidy. This time things are messier: as somebody here said, the Ryan matter took Fitzgerald eight years. Back in 1998 the stock market’s internals were just starting to fray as the headline stocks were still gathering strength for their blow-off. Once the Nasdaq bubble burst, the establishment needed to foster a substitute bubble, so the real estate sector came to the rescue as Americans kept spending beyond their incomes by borrowing against their home equity. But this time things will be much worse than they were during the Watergate years: many more folks were invested in stocks when they fell in 2000, and nearly every family has a house that will lose value when the housing market caves in. Thus the need for scapegoats will be much greater. Moreover, when Watergate hit we were already getting out of Vietnam but now we’re still far from getting out of Iraq and our glorified leader wants us to attack Iran as Democratic members of Congress sit with their thumbs stuck up their nostrils. Hu’s visit shows how our politicians are divorced from reality. Together, China and Japan finance our military budget and though those two countries may seem to be at loggerheads, it’s only the squabbling of marriage partners that need one another and who see that America is crumbling because its people are too eager to consume instead of save, and its leaders are too dumb to husband America’s shrinking economic resources. As China shifts its economy to more domestic consumption and less exporting of cheap goods, America will be left with no choice but to tighten its belt, a shift that entails much greater pain than China’s and that will take many years to carry out. But the only way to create capital is by delaying the purchase of consumer goods and speeding up the purchase of producer goods. Capital consists of producer goods, which are in short supply now that America has outsourced its undustrial plant. We’ll know that America’s on the road to recovery once it’s outsourced Wall Street.
Truthout Luskin/Rove Article link:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/042006Z.shtml
OT and running out the door -
Over at Juan Cole’s place there is this observation:
Could be thats all you need to know in order to predict what is going to happen there wrt the new government.
I’ve wondered why the President who “listens to his generals in the field” didn’t listen to four star General Carlton Fulford when he reported back after determining it was doubtful that any uranium left Niger undetected before Wilson ever went to Niger. I’m sorry, but when you are worried about enriched uranium getting into the wrong hands you just don’t shelve a report from the general in the field. Of course, if you are Bush, you might choose to ignore it if it doesn’t say what you want it to.
Great job as usual. I haven’t been commenting much b/c I’ve been working on some things locally. OfT, but if anyone wants to learn about a great progressive Dem who will pick up a seat for us in November please visit this diary about Larry Kissell. He deserves the attention. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/4/20/101115/383
The “His wife sent him” line was hardly irrelevant at the time- cause the charge was that Wilson was sent in response to a Cheney request. This was VERY embarassing cause Cheney was forced to argue that he didn’t know the results of the trip. Not even die hard goopers were going to swallow that one- so Cheney needed to make it arguable that Wilson’s wife sent him- in which case- why would Cheney know the result.
Even if Plame did suggest her husband for the Niger trip,so what? His expenses were paid, but he wasn’t being paid, and Niger is not a tourist wonderland. My husband frequently suggests I accompany him on his travels to North Dakota:even with my expenses paid, I figure out a reason not to go.
Fitz presenting new evidence against Rove to the GJ according to this story- seeking multiple indictments:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/042006Z.shtml
Good morning all. With what’s afoot with Fitz and the GJ, it’s going to be a tough next four days for me to be without web access. Can’t argue about a lovely 4 day excursion with my other, but damn ! ;)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200….._obscenity
Link to great story. Congresswoman from Mo. sends reply to constituent that says “I think you are an asshole”.
She signed the letter and wrote a personalized note on the bottom- it was on her letterhead. Now she is blaming “someone else” for the letter.
OK. Now this Pat Roberts, he’s the wacky evangelical minister who wants to assassinate the Chavez guy because of the boycott on grapes.
Also Wilson is the black comic who dresses in drag and yells: “Here come de judge”.
Right?
-GSD
What a pleasant surprise. Good morning Jane. My, you are a busy lady. It occured to me that you consistently crank out some amazing investigative pieces on a huge range of topics. You must have a massive data storage system somewhere.How you remember all of this stuff is quite a feat.
mainsailset says:
April 20th, 2006 at 7:26 am
Have you seen this from Raw Story?
RWCole,
Look at the flap regarding and alderman in Nashua, NH and his e-mail response to a new resident in the town. He told the German transplant if he didn’t like the town he should go back to “Das Fatherland”.
http://www.wcax.com/global/sto…..=Printable
-GSD
Sounds as if Karl may have to wrap up his election plans pretty soon- and start packin up his pencils- as he joins Scoots in the “defense” business. Think Scoots will share some of his defense fund with Ol Karl?
rwcole #37!
Wow, that’s funny. It definitely sounds like something JoAnne would think about the guy…she’s got a pretty sharp tongue, I hear. But for that to somehow get in a letter and not be spotted as you’re signing it and placing a hand-written post script at the bottom…wow.
The photo shows one of the twelve times Cheney has ever smiled. Most of the others were when he was feeding on small children.
RW Cole 33
I believe you are right that the “Valerie sent him” line was about Cheney. But the dismissive way in which it was repeated all over cable was also about “Joe is a pussy. Can’t get work unless his wife helps him.” In the thinking of the men who came up with this line, this was a slam. Which says more about them than about the Wilsons.
GSD–Funny:
Teeboom says he meant no offense, and defends his comments as a legitimate use of the German language.
Really? I thought it would be “DER Fatherland”
From Truth Out:
Luskin said that Rove simply forgot about his conversation with Cooper when he testified before the grand jury because Rove had been dealing with other pressing matters, such as Bush’s reelection campaign.
Rove’s story began to unravel when Fitzgerald discovered the existence of an email Rove sent to then-Deputy National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley after he spoke with Cooper on July 11, 2003.
Rove did not disclose the existence of the email during his first two appearances before the grand jury. Rove testified that he found out about Plame Wilson after her identity was disclosed in several news stories.
“I didn’t take the bait,” Rove wrote in the email to Hadley immediately following his conversation with Cooper. “Matt Cooper called to give me a heads-up that he’s got a welfare reform story coming. When he finished his brief heads-up he immediately launched into Niger. Isn’t this damaging? Hasn’t the president been hurt? I didn’t take the bait, but I said if I were him I wouldn’t get Time far out in front on this.”
Go Fitz!!!
To understand Stonewall Roberts we first need to ask, “What does Pat Roberts owe to Bush/Cheney, and when did he start owing it?” The man appears totally under the thumb of the administration and there have to be reasons why. To look for the connectable dots, I would say find the connections between Roberts and Rove, and under that rock you may find lots of things to explain, like possibly some nice pork for Kansas, jobs, even his senate position. Its got to be payback, big time for Roberts. This is the kind of stuff that needs to be aired if we want to get a handle on Roberts. Yeah, you say, everyone in Congress does that kind of stuff. But not everyone is chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
If he knows Bush broke the laws and is defending him and stonewalling anyway, Roberts himself may be liable for at least censure.
Not to be too tough on the man, does anyone know if he ever served in the military?
http://www.usatoday.com/money/…..ekly_x.htm
Leading economic indicators slide- but DOW is up 56 points on the news. Lots of good economic news at this linked article.
Morning FDL’ers, and bye FDL’ers!
*grinz* I’m on my way up north for the weekend. No puter up there so I’ll be driving myself nuts wondering whats going on in the threads. Hope there’s some Fitz action tomorrow! Take care and enjoy…see you Sunday.
This whole Plame experience has been like watching a baseball game where a pitch gets thrown every two weeks. I was so hoping that this stuff would be going down in 2004 instead of 2006.
Novak is still hacking away. That old “leaky” Fitzgerald makes Ken Starr look like Marcel Marceau.
God, this late in the game, the country is in shambles and the press is still cutesey on the Bush Cabal.
“Still, he did say, “If I had gone before a grand jury and taken the Fifth Amendment, Mr. Fitzgerald would have that on the street in about two minutes.”
-GSD
orangejumpsuit: he served as a marine.
from his Senate website:
Born in Topeka April 20, 1936, Senator Roberts is the son of the late Wes Roberts, Chairman of the Republican National Committee under President Dwight Eisenhower. His great-grandfather, J.W. Roberts, founded the Oskaloosa Independent, the state’s second oldest newspaper. Following graduation from Kansas State University in 1958, Senator Roberts served in the U.S. Marine Corps for four years, then worked as a reporter and editor for several Arizona newspapers. He joined the staff of Kansas Senator Frank Carlson in 1967. In 1969, Senator Roberts became Administrative Assistant to Kansas’ First District Congressman Keith Sebelius. Senator Roberts was elected to Congress in 1980, succeeding Sebelius upon his retirement. He was first elected to the Senate in 1996 following the retirement of Senator Nancy Kassebaum (Baker) and won re-election in 2002. Senator Roberts and his wife, Franki, have three grown children – David, and his wife Mimi, Ashleigh and Anne-Wesley.
Hope springs eternal for multiple indictments–this could be wishful thinking, but could the White House want McClellan gone because he’s the guy who assured the press corps that Libby and Rove had nothing to do with the Plame leak? He isn’t the guy you’d want fielding questions if Rove is indicted, is he? Just hopin’…
To understand Novak’s column, you have to understand Swopa’s “three leak” reading of the Novak column that outed Plame. I expect Swopa will post on this later, but I think it’s possible that Novak is correct.
Anyone who argues Nigergate/Plamegate with eriposte is cruising for a bruising. That’s all I’m saying. :-)
maybe it’s the beautiful weather here in new york, but i’m feeling a rove indictment coming…
Wondering #54
I think you are right. Scotty is gone because the news will be bad enough without having to have Scotty eat crow.
Interesting the Rove was “demoted” yesterday. I guess if he is “political” and not “administrative” he is technically no longer part of the “administration.” At least according to the Decider.
RWCole, Teeboom is a libertarian asshat extraordinaire. It was OK for Teeboom to be offended and sue for harrassing e-mails–but now he is the victim. Oy vey.
NH has has some real pips in office.
My favorite was Rep. Mildred Ingram who said that if homosexuals wanted to donate blood: “They should donate ALL of it.”
Also there was “Happy” Jack Chandler who commented after seeing Jesse Jackson kissing a white girl at a campaign stop in 1984. “It made me want to throw-up”.
That was the year that I saw a pick-up truck with the Jesse Jackson bumper sticker on the FRONT bumper. The Jackson bumper sticker said” “Run, Jesse, Run”.
-GSD
To think of the names democrats, progressives, lefties et al have been called because we don’t want to “exercise our nuclear options” based on spurious intelligence of the kind that reeks!
Michelle Malkin is proving to be a complete psychopath. More so than ever, if that’s possible. She’s listing phone numbers on her “blog.”
http://americablog.blogspot.co…..phone.html
“That old “leaky†Fitzgerald makes Ken Starr look like Marcel Marceau.” Brilliant, GSD. LMAO
things that make me go hmmmmmm. also from Roberts’ website:
Prior to 9/11, it was Senator Roberts who cautioned the country that an attack on America’s homeland was possible. In fact, after September 11, 2001, columnist David Broder wrote in the Washington Post, “In words that now appear to be eerily prescient, Roberts warned (in 1999) that there was a ‘real opportunity for a handful of zealots to wreck havoc on a scale that hitherto only armies could attain.’” Roberts has pledged his committee will work in the 109th Congress to make the intelligence community stronger and our nation safer in the post-September 11 world.
Pat Roberts is supposed to be releasing some of the information re Phase 2 after the Easter break according to Raw Story:
The Senate Intelligence Committee’s inquiry into whether the U.S. intelligence community “cooked” pre-war Iraq intelligence now appears likely to be concluded soon, and a spokesman for the Committee’s chairman says he’s ready to get onto more “pressing matters” like Iran.
Speaking for Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts (R-KS), spokeswoman Sarah Little told RAW STORY three sections of the so-called “Phase II” report are likely to made available to members of the committee after the Senate’s Easter recess. Little rebuffed Democrats’ assertions that the report had been unreasonably delayed, saying that Democratic senators were attempting to “move the goalpost” by broadening the scope of the inquiry.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0411.html
Yesterday, Bush talked about seeing Scotty again in Texas, a time they could sit side by side in rocking chairs, reminiscing about the good ole days…
Question: Do they allow rocking chairs in prison?
I think some prisoners actually make furniture like rocking chairs……..
Prison officials in northern Mexico say their inmates are manufacturing furniture bound for Texas — despite U.S. laws that ban the importation of goods made with prison labor. And they’d like to contract with more American companies to produce all kinds of goods. One official said prison shops would even label their products to hide their origin. Prison officials in Mexico’s northern states are pointing to inmate workshops as a way to stem the loss of business as foreign-owned assembly plants abandon the border zone in search of cheaper labor in Asia. Convicts already do work for Mexican companies.
http://www.globalpolicy.org/so…..prison.htm
dead last 64
Well, you do notice that Bush “was very careful not to say” where exactly in Texas they’d be rockin’.
Also, I do believe the American people are generous enough that when they have an exprez locked up, that if he wants some rocking chairs, he’d get some rocking chairs.
Bush’ll be doin his rockin in Highland Park- not in Crawford. Bet sellin the pig ranch will be one of his first acts after he leaves the White House– he’s a city boy.
I heard a lot o people been reading American Theocracy by Kevin Phillips. I’m reading his “American Dynasty – Aristocracy, Fortune, and the Politics of Deceit In the House of Bush”. I gotta say its dry, dry, dry. Is his new book as tedious and dull as this one?
“not a part of the administration”
Hmm- interesting. I guess he’s still being paid with tax payer money.
If Rove gets indicted- he can easily be moved to the RNC–the “boystown” for orphaned gooper political criminals.
I think we oughta give GW and electrified rockin chair- bout 145,000 volts!
Plano– Yeah his writing style is pretty “factual”–but it’s all great stuff.
I have been playing catch up of late and must have missed the post about where FDLs Plamologist Christy Hardin Smith is? Can anyone fill me in?
Gotta be the Bush admin has something on Robertson for him to act so negatively towards the well being of this country. HTF else can one explain his stonewalling against airing the truth. Statesman he is not!
Not the first time chimpy has talked about sitting around:
Addressing another member of his party, Sen. Trent Lott (Miss.), Bush promised: “Out of the rubble of Trent Lott’s house — he lost his entire house — there’s going to be a fantastic house. And I’m looking forward to sitting on the porch.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..02215.html
trish says:
April 20th, 2006 at 9:00 am
Christy’s on vacation.
New thread from Jane
trish, Christy is on vacation.
Stephen Parrish, Thank you! I am glad it is nothing to worry about. She is going to have some great stuff to work up when she gets back.
B. Muse–just for you I sent Kissell (NC-08) a lovely check.
How’s it going with your local organizing project?
I’m from KS and I too would like to know the deal with that skank Roberts. Do you think the pay-off could be that no bases were closed in Kansas, and Fort Reilly is going under great expansion right now? Cheney just flew in the day before yesterday…Bush was at K-State when the wire-tapping outrage was going on, Brownback was very quiet that day, Roberts was drooling over Bush, and Gov. Kathleen Sebelius (democrat) hit Bush up for the KS guard equipment back and about Medicare Part D.
Due to bad weather that day, they had to take a car to from Topeka to Manhatten with all 4 aboard where Kathleen nailed him on the Nat’l Guard issues. I wonder what would have been said to Brownback and Roberts out of ear-shot of the governor? Please, figure this out….Roberts has to be a crook…and yes, what the hell is wrong with Kansas, lol. Maybe Roberts owns land around the Fort Reilly area, since there is now a new housing boom going on there. Something stinks anyway.
he served as a marine.
He may have served as a Marine but I wager he isn’t and wasn’t a Marine.
Plano, Am reading American Theocracy. The midsection–on the evolution of religious sects, and migrations of southerners to other parts of the country–is slow going, but fascinating as he helps you put the pieces together. The first part, in which he lays out the timelines for different kinds of major bad things converging, is chilling. I am halfway through and recommend the book. He seems deeply knowledgeable and has spent decades thinking and learning about these subjects. I’m glad he decided to write what he knows.
I cannot see Roberts without wondering if Karl Rove has some .jpg files of Roberts socializing with honey pot Jeff Gannon or a Jeff Gannon Associate Services (JGAS) professional. This is pure speculation, but Roberts is so obliging, so dutiful, so seemingly habituated to obedience.
Roberts, Brownback and General Richard Myers all graduated from K-State. Scary thought, my son goes there and my younger son will too in the fall. I asked this week-end of my son if anyone tries to influence him there. Thank goodness, he said no. I think the kids lean left there. haha.
9 Jane Hamsher says:
April 20th, 2006 at 6:52 am
looseheadprop — I’ve written about the SSCI Report until I’m blue in the face. It’s very integral to the Plame story and has been from the start.
Jane,
I know you have. I get the importance of it with regard to Plame. Maybe I was thrown in the wrong direction by the title and the photo.
My comment had to do with making a story out of the “seperate” scandal of how Roberts is abusing his position as chair of the intelligence committee to PREVENT any meaningful oversight of Bushco atrocities.
I don’t see the Roberts problem as being framed in a way that it takes on a life of its own as a stand alone story, though admittedly attached at hundred points to all the othe stories.
D says, 80: “Do you think the pay-off could be that no bases were closed in Kansas, and Fort Reilly is going under great expansion right now?”
If all this is happening at the same time they are drawing down or closing other bases, Roberts owes Bush/Cheney/Rove/Rumsfeld big time.
Here is a link to a list of recommonded facility closings nationwide as of May 2005. Notice Kansas got off very light, with only one ammo factory on the list, and that is factory, not a base.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..51305.html
It just so happens that Roberts is also on the Armed Services Committee. So, he is on two committees that are very critical to national security. Talk about being in the catbird seat.
My guess is that it is more the case of the WH wooing Roberts than the other way around, so we need to look for the payoffs. For example, he stonewalls on the investigations and gets to keep the bases in Kansas when every other state is losing them.
WHEN the “question” arises as to Pat Roberts’ credibility as head of the Intelligence Committee vs. his job as chief cover-up man for the Bushistas, one need look no further than the “Additional Views” appendix to the SSCI report:
http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/004982.php
This little addendum was introduced at the very end of the committee’s work, and just before the report was released, and it was inserted EXPRESSLY to slime Joe Wilson.
Roberts was either handed the addendum, or had it written, and was one of only THREE committee members along with Bond and Hatch, out of 18 (9 GOP – 9 DEM), who chose to sign on.
The reason WHY this “The Senate Select Intelligence Committee has determined Joe Wilson is a liar” section was inserted should be painfully clear:
Even though this addendum is nothing but the filthiest partisan lie, Roberts agreed to whore out the SSCI’s supposedly bipartisan status and credibility to further his White House masters’ intentions.
I just have to get this off my chest. What is so great about a trip to Niger? I could see his wife supposedly arranging a trip to Scotland or France or somewhere lavish, but for goodness sakes – Niger? Like THAT would be an extravagant little holiday, give me a break!
Joe Wilson was asked to go to a tough place to do a difficult and sensitive job because of his expertise and contacts in that region. It was not, excuse me, a perk. And GOP spin machine: Get over it – we never bought that line, er lie , either.
WhooHoo
Roux is da’ man!(assuming you are a man?)
That is the point I fully expect the hear made during Fitz’s opening statement at one of the trials to come.
I was under the impression that the Dept of State’s INR analyst was at the second CIA meeting with Wilson, and not the first one where the initial plan to send Wilson to Niger was planned. the INR guy was playing “catch-up,” and was confused about what occurred during the first meeting.
Anyway, Plame’s boss had decided even before the first meeting to ask Wilson to go the Niger.
There’s another significant bamboozle in the SSCI’s rephrasing of the memo. Where the memo had “to sort out the Niger/Iraq uranium sale question,” the committee report misquotes “to sort out the Niger/Iraq uranium issue.”
The point was to obscure the fact that Wilson was investigating whether (as per the forgery) a sale was made. The committee wanted to misrepresent his mission as investigating whether an attempt was made to buy. (Thus, the Republican addendum to the report set out to spin Wilson’s trip, because of an account of one ambiguous meeting at which uranium was not mentioned, as “strengthening” the case for yellowcake.)
New Fitz stuff:http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/042006Z.shtml
So long, Karl.
Yes, Plano tex. Kevin Phillips has always been as boring as whaleshit.
Whether he shovelled out American Dynasty or American Theocracy …
Whether he was building the right-wing-nut empire or allegedly “switched” to ring the alarm bell …
Phillips can NOT be broken into memes, summaries, bullet points, talking points or the comprehensible gist of things. Hopelessly pedantic, academic and irrelevant.
Only reason the right-wing-nutters cited Phillips — whom they could never understand anyway — is to say: See. We gots us some Pee Ache Dee types, too. So, there, smarty pants.
“Question: Do they allow rocking chairs in prison? “
I think they have electrodes attached to them in Texas.
This Administration is so darn corrupt! It’s about time Pat Robertson get his act together and hold legitimate hearings.
Speaking of corruption, last night on the Daily Show host Jon Stewart gave the best reason yet as to why we can expect a war with Iran in the near future:
Watch the video
http://thebluestate.typepad.co…..feld_.html
How Shit Happens
Walter Pincus, WAPO, October 12, 2003: “The first public mention of Wilson’s mission to Niger, albeit without identifying him by name, was in the New York Times on May 6, in a column by Nicholas D. Kristof. Kristof had been on a panel with Wilson four days earlier, when the former ambassador said State Department officials should know better than to say the United States had been duped by forged documents that allegedly had proved a deal for the uranium had been in the works between Iraq and Niger. Wilson said he told Kristof about his trip to Niger on the condition that Kristof must keep his name out of the column. When the column appeared, it created little public stir, though it set a number of reporters on the trail of the anonymous former ambassador. Kristof confirmed that account.”
Walter Pincus & Jim Vanderhei, WAPO, July 21, 2005: “Plame — who is referred to by her married name, Valerie Wilson, in the memo — is mentioned in the second paragraph of the three-page document, which was written on June 10, 2003, by an analyst in the State Department’s Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR), according to a source who described the memo to The Washington Post. The paragraph identifying her as the wife of former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV was clearly marked to show that it contained classified material at the “secret” level, two sources said. The CIA classifies as “secret” the names of officers whose identities are covert, according to former senior agency officials.”
The information in the subject INR praragraph that the CIA dispatched Joe Wilson on a mission to Niger was classified Secret on July 7, 2003, so it was also classified in May 2003 when Mr. Wilson revealed it to Kristof. Mr Wilson certainly was aware that his mission to Niger to investigate yellow-cake was classified. Yet he chose to leak it to journalist Kristof. He was not authorized to do so. I believe there is a law against that. In Washington, leaks beget leaks. Thus Joe Wilson is the proximate cause of his wife’s notoriety and career problems. (I will bet she has told him as much too.)
It is interesting to note that his wife is identified in the second paragraph of the INR memo as Valerie Wilson (no Plame). Thus if Novak had not used the trade name V. Plame, but only V. Wilson, this still would have been an unauthorized release of classified information. But I am wondering if Fitzgerald would be in business if the name Plame had not appeared in Novak’s column? I am betting Libby could march hundreds of movers and cocktail shakers into court who knew Wilson’s wife Valerie worked at the agency. It will be interesting to see if Fitzgerald places special importance on the name Plame being disclosed, and if he can find the original source to a reporter for it. Judy Miller’s memory and notes were evidently unhelpful on this. Based on her previous work, I have always thought that she had the name Plame in her head, and maybe rolodex, way before the Wilson-Novak fracas.
One aspect of this which isn’t talked about much is that in June Joe Wilson talked to both the House and Senate Intelligence Committees prior to going public, which means he spoke to staff to set it up, each member of the respective committees knew, and as we all know, people talk.
It is quite conceivable, at least in my mind, that a staffer, and/or a member of congress put a bug in someone’s ear at the WH and/or the OVP, and it stands to reason that anyone that heard Wilson in that closed hearing might want to ‘help’ their boy in the WH once it came down to signing off on a senate ‘report’.
Juicy stuff Jane. I am so happy when I see your name on a post!
I’m the one that asked about the bases in Kansas and Fort Reilly expanding….well, tonight on the local news here in Kansas–it was announced that Pat Roberts said that a lot of HUD money would be made available to Kansans, in the Topeka area.
I remember seeing on the net somewhere (and I took this with a grain of salt) that not so long ago the HUD was highly abused with no checks and balances, big cash cow for select special people if you catch my drift. Just thinking. Roberts being in the Senate for 19 years, is it?, and he covers this crap up? What else has he been doing all these years, too? ACK!!