I had breakfast with my friend Doctor Vickie on Wednesday morning. She said she likes to come to the website and she always enjoys reading it but half the time she doesn't know what we're talking about. I explained that I know some times it seems impenetrable; bloggers tend to talk to the blogosphere, we assume people are following the conversation and are familiar with the cast of characters, storylines and slang that are conventions here. It can make it awfully hard to catch on. In our defense, people who show up here day after day get tired of having the same things explained over and over again, and since those are the ones we hear from the most we tend to respond to their wishes.
But last night TRex made an excellent suggestion -- if you've got a question you've been burning to ask but you don't want to do so for fear of seeming "out of it" (or worse yet, winding up Wolcott fodder), tonight is the night to de-lurk and pose it. I have to say most of the time our commenters are pretty generous about taking the time to explain these things anyway, but consider this an open invitation to express the things which confuse you the most about our tribal assumptions and ask whatever you want.
I myself sat here for a year and a half before I finally figured out what IIRC meant. Beat that.
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Duhhhh. Exposing my ignorance, and I’m not even a lurker - what’s the INR in the Fitz stories?
Heh, Jane, I figured out IIRC in only 6 months! Context, baby, context.
Oh great…and I was the guy who admitted I commented on not knowing much about Cohen….jeez! Yikes! Actually, I will take advantage of this good idea, in a few minutes. Carry on everyone…lord knows I’ve got a learning curve to conquer!
Ghostman
Thanks for the invite.
Is there any plan for a glossary or other type of link in the sidebar for the FDL to English impaired?
Fitz is a reference to Patrick Fitzgerald, the Special Prosecutor who has indicted “Scooter” Libby and who is about to indict Karl Rove.
It is a traditional first comment in each thread here at FDL (Firedoglake).
Lurkers—make sure you wear your helmets. Getting EPU’d is no joke.
It took me a long time to figure out what HTH means (hope this helps)! I suspect, though, it’s more than the shorthand that confuses people who are trying to follow the conversation. The regulars have running asides and inside jokes–they’re not necessary for following the main thread, but one can get lost in the subplots sometimes. I find them the best part of FDL some days.
Alright what is IIRC and EPUed
I get imho or imo and OT
Thanks,
Suzanne: love your idea
Colleen
mommybrain– Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR)
You resisted Google for a year and a half?
I still haven’t figured out IIRC. I assume it’s some sort of super secret intelligfence agency.
Seriously, though, if you are talking to the uninitiated general reader, should you really be using words like “de-lurk”?
Angie 9 - thanks, I never would have figured that one out. The initials, umm, would seem to have nothing to do with the name.
Great question mommybrain. It’s the State Department’s Intelligence Arm, which I assume interfaces with CIA, NSA, and the rest of the intelligence communities.
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=.....=firefox-a
IIRC = “If I Recall Correctly”
Anyone else finding the Fox poll (33%) difficult to believe? Not that the preznit is polling so low.. just that the lowest poll yet comes from Fox. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’d throw a low poll out there just to build the preznit back up to 37% with weeks of ’steady gains’ over the next two months… I refuse to concede that Fox News is capable of any good whatsoever.
OK, my coming out question concerns Chalabi, Bolton, and Khan. What’s up with Chalabi these days? Is Bolton the State Dept. component of the Cabal? And was Plame doing undercover work related to the connections between Iran and the Pakistani nuclear scientist Khan?
How do you link to an upstream post?
Here’s a handy acronym finder for lots of common expressions:
http://www.acronymfinder.com/
We’ll know FDL’s totally made it into the popular culture when “EPU” gets a listing.
As someone (sorry, day’s been a blur) pointed out earlier, FDLisms are creeping into the blogger discourse is some pretty interesting places. Definitely a two-way street.
So let’s see your questions about the local shorthand whilst I try to repair my wireless network tonight.
thanks
You have not talked about Hadley in a while, but what is the difference between the NSA and the NSC
Actually, I think I’m pretty well up on the doings here. What I’d like to see (and pray I have not missed) is a well-reasoned commentary that dissects the right-wing mindset in all its blockheaded stubbornness. In the interests of knowing our enemy, and all that.
Glenn Greenwald did an OK job of it, but he’s not a qualified psych professional. I’m not asking for a Fristian diagnosis-by-television: just some visibility into what makes these people tick, because I just. don’t. get them.
I do have a question about suspicious polls… Rasmussen, to be precise.
I’m not saying I don’t believe their numbers; however, in recent weeks, the new numbers have not been posted prompted at noon EST. Sometimes they go up days late. In the past, I always found them timely.
I am suspicious that Rasmussen is cutting off the daily poll numbers at times that give Bush a peak reading.
Actually commented a few times on the old-school site, recently more lurky.
I’ll ask the stupid question - what’s this EPU?
Doesn’t sound good. Like wearing a ball gag in Karl Rove’s proximity on a bad day.
Colleen 8, thanks. CW is the one that got me. I think it means common (or conventional) wisdom but at first, I thought it meant country western. It made for some interesting interpretations initially.
“…in some interesting places…”
Yeah, mommybrain– it is a weird one– take two from the second word and one from the third and leave the bureau out completely.
EPU refers to Evil Parallel Universe, a commenter. With alarming frequency, if EPU comments, a new thread is coming very quickly. IOW (in other words) I commented something at the bottom of the previous thread.
Cozumel tried several times to get EPU into Wikepedia’s online dictionary, but it didn’t survive.
I just got EPU’d…..this is when you are busy posting on a thread while there are 22 other posts on a new thread and everyone took off and left you at the old one.
I dont know what IIRC is either. IOKIYAR took me a long time to figure out. It is ok if your a republican.
Where’s the name Firedoglake come from?
And a small suggestion on (I think it’s) Jane’s writing: I have seen “begs the question” used a couple of times recently in the sense of raising the question, well, in question. As far as I am aware, increasingly common usage notwithstanding, this is not strictly correct, begging the question is actually a rhetorical fault. The best alternative I could come up with was “begets the question”, too stilted to be very satisfactory. But some clever writer suggested “beggars the question” as the proper expression, which feels right to me.
Thanks for all the great content.
One of my pet acronym peeves is SCLM — the So Called Liberal Media, coined by Eric Alterman.
While Eric is one of my favorite liberal writers, we are far beyond the point where snarky inside jokes are appropriate, when referring to the Corporate Media — which has been bought and sold three times over by the right wing, and freely traded on the wing nut futures exchange.
My New Year’s wish of 2005 (front paged by Lambert at Corrente) was that we retire SCLM, and replace it with a more appropriate acronym — the LRWM, or Lying Right Wing Media.
I am an FDL groupie, in part because of Jane’s enthusiasm for turning the flamethrowers on the gross mendacity of the LRWM, that passes for journalisming in this country.
IIRC — If I recall correctly
I think people also use one that translates to “I am not an attorney” —
Ahhh. Like coming back to the cube before lunch to find everyone has already gone to lunch and you are left behind.
Love the site, I lurk all the time.
INR–Bureau of Intelligence and Research. There was an INR memo to the State Department that mentioned Valerie Plame and described Joe Wilson’s visit to Niger. *IIRC*, this was the memo that Colin Powell who was identified in reporting as a *SAO (”senior administration official”) saw being passed around on AF1 (airforce 1). Right afterwards Ari the Liar (Ari Fleischer) who was on board mentioned to reporters that they might like to look into who sent Joe Wilson on his boondogle to Niger. Also, phone calls were made from AF1 to reporters.
My question: What’s EPU’ed (or is it APU’ed)?
My personal favorite is t-rexing :)
Some questions:
1. snark: this means….a pithy comment? a clever put-down?
2. meme: I actually looked this up on dictionary.com, but the definitions didn’t make much sense. Is a meme…an old argument…or a discredited argument…or a stupid argument…or what?
3. screed: is this interchangeable with meme…or does screed mean something different, and if so, what?
4. snip: I sometimes see this in the written articles when the author quotes someone, and gives a partial quote….I get that. But sometimes a quote is used, but no “snip”. Personally, I think the “snip” doesn’t help me much….why is it used, and do I understand the usage?
5. EPU: ok, I DO get the thing about someone posting to a thread when a new thread appears….but, why? Why does everyone rush to the new thread? Is it….just the way it is? Maybe so.
That’s all for NOW…chuckle.
Ghostman
I know the firedoglake one (I’m so cool and with it).
Jane’s favorite activity - watching the Lakers with a fire and the dog at her feet.
John Casper, thanks for the link. Gulp, there sure are a lot of intelligence agencies, aren’t there? And none of them talk to each other?
TEchincal question - just above the comment box are some tags to use for textual interest. They are greyed out on my mac and I’ve never been able to use them properly, mainly because I can’t read them. Do PC users see them better? Anyone know of some tags for the mac?
Fox does decent polling- their numbers are usually in the middle range of ratings.
Rasmussen- on the other hand, is consistently five or six points above the mainstream in Clusterfuck JARs. His numbers are also VERY unstable- jumping up and down senselessly. He’s really not of much use. He uses an “automated” methodology- “computer calls”- which may help to screw things up.
I now understand what being EPUed means, because others have been so kind as to explain it completely in another thread.
I’m still scratching my head wondering, what is the definition of SNARK?
snip is used to just snip off one of the paragraphs in the article. Lets the reader know that there is more above and below the paragraph.
Not “I am not an attorney” - it’s “I am not a lawyer”: IANAL.
NSA = National Security Agency
NSC = National Security Council
http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/
I’ve been a longtime lurker at firedoglake and some other sites. Good stuff, generally, Jane. My questions have less to do with Fitzgerald, in whom I have a lot of trust and confidence, than with the savvy of our Democratic leadership, who often seem to play things too close to the chest. I am pleased to see the memes of “worst president ever” and “dangerous incompetence” beginning to crack the mainstream press, but I hope there will be more than hand-wringing.
Frosted Flake #17
… link to upstream quote?
I know I know! Pick me, pick me!
scroll over the big cute number on the right hand top of comment, then right click and then click on “copy target.” Now the URL thingee is in the clipboard ready to paste.
http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....ment-72928
OT (off topic)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01379.html
The Generals’ Dangerous Whispers
By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, April 21, 2006; Page A23
What is a hit and run in a comment?
Is it a hit and run if you drop off a comment, but don’t have time to stick around and watch the thread?
EPU - Oh, thanks. That’s been bugging me for a while now. I finally also figured out WATB (whiny assed titty baby).
My question is about Diebold machines. How do we get rid of them and be certain that they never darken the doorway of another polling place ever again? Is it possible to make them illegal? Or ban them, like smoking in public places?
We we take ourselves too seriously, we should remember that the term Plameologist was coined in a satirical setting (by Hunter on Kos).
Re instructions for linking to comments in #45
Aww sh*t, I messed it up, I meant right click and then click “copy shortcut” Not “copy target”. No, that does not compute or exist. Click on “copy shortcut”
http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....ment-72959
Well, how come Jane Hamsher isn’t a household name?
:)
i suggest the second entry in every comment thread should be
EPU == Evil Parallel Universe
(the last commenter in the previous thread)
as for other acronyms IANAL is less kinky than it sounds
and my favorite
C|N>K (coffee thru nose to keyboard) is too seldom seen
as for dense - I think it was somewhere around 2000 that I realized the context of the phrase “going postal”)
Who’s this “Plame” you guys keep talking about?
mommybrain, those are HTML commands, just for information. If you insert them into the text box, you can see all the cool things you can do in the preview box.
A “snark” is- I think- a snide remark- but I may be mistaken.
(Yes, I’m being sarcastic)
I love the IANAL or I am not a lawyer. Just makes me giggle when I see it/use it. mommybrain– everybody’s talking and listening, though what the big dudes are doing with the information leaves a lot to be worried about… imho. Negroponte is in charge and Hoekstra and Harman have some serious worries about him.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04.....r=homepage
“memes” are to the brain what genes are to DNA. Just think of them as ideas that get passed around and breed, grow, evolve, etc. The term was coined by biologist Richard Dawkins.
There was another answer prior to the “sitting by the lake with her dog” which was discussed between us and Dubalhatch, (who is markfromireland’s son, now serving in Afghanistan) many months ago. It referred to an Irish weapon IIRC. Jane, you will have to comment on this as now I’m unsure which is the true explanation.
Bedlam is dreaming of rain is a line from a Bad Religion song called LA is burning.
love the site, and i’d love: 1) explanations and definitions of all the legal terminology/vocab (clear, simple ones–maybe hotlinked?) in the Plame case, and
2) some kind of list of WH and Administration and Departmental job titles–to figure out who’s important and who just sounds important, etc. Are all Directors powerful or just the ones that are connected in other ways (cronies, political appointments, etc?) and all that kind of stuff–who is appointed by the president and who is not and how that affects their credibility on everything, etc.
I think these would help all sites and all readers–i don’t know if it seems more complicated than it really is, or it really is that complicated–and the spin further complicates it all and turns people off, i think.
Thanks!
OK I am embarrassed to admit this but the twists and turns of Plamegate have lost me. I mean, I understand the basic story but this business about who spoke to whom and when and why it’s important, has totally lost me.
Does anyone have a link to some article that lays this out clearly?
YankInDC- huge question. That would take some googling. I’ve read about the connections, and there are probably many articles out there. But, were you asking specifically for Jane’s input? I’d be interested…
i think since we all can hotlink to more information, we shouldn’t ever forget to link to basic info that can help everyone “get it”. Already the Plame thing is like a bowl of spaghetti, at least in my eyes. Every day there’s a leak or new spin or new grand jury things, etc.
WHAT ON EARTH is the SSCI(?) and how does it pertain to the INR? Any time those two acronyms show up in a post, I know that I am in over my head.
Would someone like me to explain TRexing?
I’ve been a reader since the early day and just love Jane’s in-your-face common sense. Really, this is the true political universe. The other is a bit odd.
I have loved the addition of Red/Christy and now the new ones. You guys rock.
Someone asked the difference between NSA and NSC:
NSA -National security agency. An intelligence arm of the govt. Think CIA type covert spooks and such, signal intelligence etc. There are alot of agencies doing what we think of as “spying”, which most think is just the CIA. Naval intelligence exists, defense dept intelligence…quite a few of them.
NSC - National Security Council. Sort of like a committee or cabinet of advisors within the exec branch that serves the president on matters of nat security. Condi Rice was the head of this in the post of National Security Advisor prior to her moving to Sec State. Steven Hadley currently occupies the post.
Feel free to add or correct.
I am no lurker, but there are a couple of things I have wondered for a long time.
1) Where does the phrase, “I’m just saying” or “I’m just sayin’” come from? Is it unique to FDL? Does it come from Jane or Christy? I don’t hear it anywhere else.
2) Why do we call MSNBC Hack “journalist” Chris Matthews “Tweety”? Is it because he has a big round yellow head and wide-open eyes, as though he has just seen a Puddy Tat? Is it because of his high squeeky voice? All the above? None of the above? I use it because it just seems to fit…
When I was a little kid, my parents didn’t let me watch much TV, unlike most of my grade school classmates. Consequently I often felt out of the conversation, because people were always talking about TV shows I knew nothing about. Even as an adult, I hear certain phrases come into currency and wonder where they came from, only to discover they are catch phrases from some show I never watched. I used to feel kind of like that in FDL, but not so much now.
Ghostman # 36 –
1. snark: — biting, ironic humor?
2. meme: — a concept or idea that has become conventional wisdom; subject to change with changing perceptions and circumstance. I.e., Bush’s meme has changed from ’stong leader’ to ‘lying incompetent.’
3. screed: — a kind of ranty long statement.
4. snip: — a word that signals a cutout in copy/pasted text. I use three tight dots … to signal the same thing. (I use three spaced dots . . . as a narrative device.)
Here’s my question: where’s Christy?
snowy said “just some visibility into what makes these people tick, because I just. don’t. get them.”
I’m with you on this. A very close co-worker of mine is EXACTLY like this. I swear, I spend half my workday trying to figure out what time zone he’s on. He still insists, to this day, that Bush is the best thing since sliced bread, even though I know he knows that he’s not. I swear, it drives me right up the friggin wall to sit so close to a person that cannot adjust his brain to the reality of what a lost cause this administration is. Yet, he is very intelligent. My guess is that his personality is exactly like Bush’s–he cannot admit that he is wrong. No matter what. Tonite I visited the Red State blog and I could not believe how sweet the koolaid is mixed over there. All they talk about is how bad dems are. Do they even know that half their party is under indictment? No, they don’t. They are just like my colleague and just like their president.
But, I believe that the squeaky wheel gets the grease, votes are stolen in very large numbers, and owning the “traditional” news medium is what keeps them going. And I wonder when the men in this country will storm the palace…….
SSCI - Senate Select Committee on Intelligence
They have a jackass for a chairman
Ghostman, I think of a screed as an unpleasant or disagreeable post, such as “Michelle Malkin has an unbelievable screed about immigration up at her site.” The opposite of any FDL post is a screed.
Snark= Jane Hamsher on Jim Brady or anything by watertiger at Dependable Renegade. Sassy, snappy, sarcasm.
Dude, some trolls, anthony is the best example, imo, will just comment once and never return to respond to people who point out the inadeqacies of their comment.
immanentize called him a “drive-by,” IIRC.
It’s a part of the essence of tribalism to never admit that your tribe is wrong- even when they are carrying off the other guy’s women and children and peein in his corn.
IIRC there was a shaggy dog story about pottery or a firearme by way of the Irishman O’Glake
NSA used to be so secret it stood for No Such Agency
How do you say “Pachacutec?”
68, ck….got it, and thank you.
blue eyes @ 19-
The NSC is: “The National Security Council is the President’s principal forum for considering national security and foreign policy matters with his senior national security advisors and cabinet officials. “
The NSA (National Security Agency) used to be an “secret” agency within the Department of Defense. The NSA is by far larger than the CIA, INR or NRO. However, it is not clear to me whether the NSA still exists in its old structure completely within the DoD anymore.
One point of confusion is that Stephen Hadley is the National Security Council Adviser which sometimes is called the National Security Adviser (NSA).
One way to think about it is that the National Security Agency has copies of the National Security Council Adviser’s e-mail.
Ghostman, here’s what they mean IMHO…
Snark- smartassyness, sarcasm, etc…estions:
meme I think it’s more like a theme… screed: a rant,
snip: Usually used to get rid of non-necessary stuff in an article- but to show you know you’re quoting ‘out of context’, so to speak…IOW (in other words) if you’re quoting the 1st and 5th parapgraphs of an article it would be like this:
Para 1
(snip)
Para 5
That way people realize you took something out, and we don’t all have to read stuff that’s OT (off topic)
5. EPU: -Yep, I think it’s just the way it is, baby. Since posts are usually well-spaced, most of the regulars have had a chance to comment on a topic…so when a new post goes up, we’re all more likely to start commenting on that rather than continue to dissect an ‘old’ topic…
I have seen “begs the question†used a couple of times recently in the sense of raising the question, well, in question.
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/begs.html
===BEGS THE QUESTION
An argument that improperly assumes as true the very point the speaker is trying to argue for is said in formal logic to “beg the question.â€===
Dave: She’s at Disneyworld for the week with her hubby and little peanut.
rwcole: lol
pach-a-chu-tek?
Pak a Koo Tek
This is a great topic. It motivated me to finally figure out how to create a shorter alias for a longer link.
RBG’s Favorite Site
How’d I do?
Well yea sure Valley Girl (#62), I’m always eager to hear Jane’s input. She keeps a lid on over-speculation, however. Healthy trait.
Dave, Christy’s on vacation and Taylor has been subbing for her. Taylor has her own great blog, too, so she’s doing double time.
Steve #53 - Valerie Plame is the CIA Agent who was outted in the CIA LEAK CASE. She is the wife of Joe Wilson.
Ghostman #78 –
Some of the other comments about snark and meme are more accurate than mine.
Memes are ideas that enjoy viral cultural transmission — becoming memes when generally recognized.
wow– hi all the new folks! 40 minutes and 86 comments. great post and idea, Jane.
renato, I agree.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame
is one resource, that also links to others.
I think part of FDL’s popularity is due to Jane and Christy’s ability to remind us when something big happens. The WH and the corporate media has thrown up such a smoke screen, it’s tough to keep it all straight.
Oh yeah, I was thinking “drive by” and saying hit and run. Thanks for the explanation.
Here is a question on site administration. If you get a comment that you are opposed to on a visceral level, but it isn’t flat out wrong or offensive, do you nuke the comment or let it stand in the interest of free speech?
Pah-cha-KOO-tehk
I know what trexing refers to but I’ve been afraid to ask what exactly it means, in case it lets out a secret that will clue in offensive commenters.
So…yes, I’d like to know but not unless it’s ok!
I have missed Christy this week - esp with the Traitorgate activity.
I *have* paid more attention to Jeralyn tho
94
Pack a Q-Tip?
NSA was a super secret agency for years. I think it was finally revealed as existing in the Nixon years. People called it “no such agency” - NSA - get it? I heard it was responsible for all the dirty stuff, like Pinochet. Think rendition, torture of prisoners and disappearing political dissenters.
We only dump abusive/offensive comments or repetitive comments by people visiting in an attempt to be disruptive, i. e., not engaged in good faith, community discussion.
Nope.
Paahtch-a- koo-tec.
I’m pretty sure, anyway.
Nice job RBG, I love that one, mastered it just a couple of months ago, thanks to my peeps here @ FDL.
ROTFLOLSTC
rolling on the floor, laughing out loud - scared the cat!
Trexing is the art of editing the fecal matter of an obnoxious poster into something that repulses even him or her.
“One way to think about it is that the National Security Agency has copies of the National Security Council Adviser’s e-mail.”
LMAO.
trexing means editing the comment of a troll in such a way that it mocks the troll
troll trexing
ceu says:
April 20th, 2006 at 8:44 pm
NSA was a super secret agency for years. I think it was finally revealed as existing in the Nixon years. People called it “no such agency†- NSA - get it? I heard it was responsible for all the dirty stuff, like Pinochet. Think rendition, torture of prisoners and disappearing political dissenters.
the NSA has morphed into the presidency.
I think IIRC took me about a year, if I recall correctly.
Check out the Urban Dictionary it’s a great resource for all the acronyms and helps to decode what the kewl kids are saying.
Mack- doubling for punaise tonight, are we???
Not bad. ;-)
Steve, per what hungrycoyote already said, Novak and company also appeared to have outed her as Valerie “Flame,” just to try and hide their complicity.
WOW! Al-Scooter-check out these acronyms at wikipedia. Huge list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fission_Mailed
Pach, thanks! Good rule.
amberglow #60 2) some kind of list of WH and Administration and Departmental job titles–to figure out who’s important and who just sounds important, etc.
Dan Froomkin’s site has links to this kind of information:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00744.html
===I’ve compiled some background information on the White House, available in the right margin, which includes a who’s who of top advisers; a map of where they sit; the latest complete White House staff list including salaries; and a list of major White House news correspondents with links to their work. I’ve also made it easy to find White House news, presidential approval polls and other related information from around the Web.===
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2....._0420.html
HARRIET ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK ACCORDING TO RAW STORY.
Clusterfuck said to be in tears.
posh-uh-CUE-tek
Ghostman 36 - on the new thread thing. I don’t know the history, but as a latecomer it seems to me that it really cuts the trolls. It takes too much focus and time for them to pay attention and follow the conversations that jump threads.
The NSA is hige, with an ‘off-the-books’ budget.
One thing I know they have focussed on in the last decade was technology , communications, internet, hacking etc.
Dave Aitel of immunitysec.com is a rather brilliant ex-employee. When asked about his tenure her replys that the first thing they tell you at the NSA is to never talk about the NSA.
But it would be a fair inference that they do offence, not defence.
It is comforting in one sense that there is some wing of the Federal Government which actually exercises technical competence (the CIA and FBI have had large infosec shortcomings over the years), but intimidating that this competence could be turned against our own citizens under incompetent direction.
Thank you, Jane — for coming up with the bestest Late Night FDL thread ever!!!
Seriously — this thread is great, because it is so light hearted and playful. The wing nut sewer dippin’ series was too depressing to read — what with these being the halcyon Wiemar cabaret days of the Bush ‘Murca end times.
just a couple of random things:
Pach, you need to pick from the 4 pronunciations and clarify (I’m pretty sure it’s not Mack’s)
rw, there’s a great Vespa cartoon in the newest issue of New Yorker, you should check it out for your new dealership.
To all of our De-Lurkers, it’s nice to meet you! If you are lurking again and have a question, please feel free to pipe right up and ask. It’s easy to get lost (now which way was I going?) and nobody bites except punaise(’s wit). If you ask when you see or read something, you’ll have an easier time. We don’t require participation, but will answer your question. If we don’t, just ask it again. There is a college student who posts here now and then and I thought that took guts!!
Anyone wanting to understand the NSA should read The Puzzle Palace by James Bamford. It is probably way out of date, though–my copy says copyright 1983. I don’t know if he has done anything lately–does anyone else know?
nice catch VG!
I just want to briefly report that the CA state group had our first conference call tonight, which was great and went well. It’s fun to talk to folks you’ve gotten to know here. It’s also heartening that we’ve got a goal, some great talking points, and a scheduler who’s setting up meetings with our Senators’ offices. Much thanks to Pachacutec for inspiring us all to move forward and put down Roots in our home communities, and to the blogmistresses for their endless leadership, guidance, and snark.
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Thanks.;)
wesgpc #45~
I just thought I’d say that when you right click on the “big cute number” in my older windows98se, the menu says “copy shortcut”.
I want to say “thank you” for all the information I have gathered through #45 where I stopped to de-lurk for the moment.
thank you this opportunity to decrease the anxiety that comes from being new.
Survey USA just released jars for all senators- below are those with less than 50% approval- some interesting names:
Allen, George R Jr 49% 38% 11% Track VA Jr WUSA-TV WDBJ-TV
77 RI Coleman, Norm R Jr 49% 42% 7% Track MN Jr KSTP-TV WDIO-TV KSAX-TV KAAL-TV
77 SC Ensign, John R Jr 49% 36% 13% Track NV Jr KVBC-TV
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