
(guest blog by Taylor Marsh)
Well, Scott McClellan is gone, resigned. It was just flashed across MSNBC. I guess the decider doesn't make all decisions. But, hey, you can't win 'em all. Besides, we all felt this one coming. It was either that or get fired, right? Leaving on your own terms is always a better route.
But let's back up. The "decider"? Who taught this guy to speak? I know, I know, I should be used to it by now, but I'm just not. Neither are Joe Gandelman, Digby and Atrios, the source for today's picture, and a host of others, who covered the story.
Crooks and Liars has the video if you missed Bush's latest beauty.
"I hear the voices, and I read the front page, and I know the speculation. But I'm the decider, and I decide what is best. And what's best is for Don Rumsfeld to remain as the secretary of defense." - President George W. Bush
The decider hears "the voices." Why does that not surprise me? Unfortunately, it's not the type of voices anyone should be listening to.
But if Bush is the "decider," he is also something else: the one responsible. Now that he's put no distance whatsoever between himself and Donald Rumsfeld we know one thing for sure. Everything that has happened, every plan that's gone awry and every decision has been backed by the "decider." Whatever the Iraq war was a couple of days ago to the American people, today it belongs to Bush. Of course, we've always known it. But there was also a feeling someone else was pulling the strings, Deadeye, DoD, whomever. Now we know that only Bush is in charge. He is the decider. No wonder he's going down.
One wonders, if Karl Rove was really on his game and Fitz wasn't giving Bush's brain fits, if the Rovester would have allowed Bush to come out and back Rummy so nakedly, on Good Friday, without a thought. Oh, right, Bush is the decider. On the other hand, if Bush can't save Rummy, he can't save himself either. They're tied together as one.
But it's Maureen Dowd, who never misses an opportunity to take an opportunity to stereotype Democrats, who on this day at least, does the decider and his DoD man in.
From behind the infernal wall of pay, I bring you an excerpt of Ms. Dowd today:
Asked why he twice offered to resign during the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal but has not this time, Rummy smiled and replied, "Oh, just call it idiosyncratic."
Idiosyncratic, indeed, with Iraq in chaos, the military riven and depleted, the president poleaxed, the Republican fortunes for the midterm elections dwindling, and Republican lawmakers like Chuck Hagel questioning Rummy's leadership and Democratic ones like Dick Durbin proposing a no-confidence vote in the Senate.
The secretary made it sound as if the generals want him to resign because he made reforms. But they really want him to resign because he made gigantic, horrible, arrogant mistakes that will be taught in history classes forever.
He suggested invading Iraq the day after 9/11. He didn't want to invade Iraq because it was connected to 9/11. That was the part his neocon aides at the Pentagon, Wolfie and Doug Feith, had to concoct. Rummy wanted to invade Iraq because he thought it would be easy, compared with Iran or North Korea, or compared with finding Osama. He could do it cheap and show off his vaunted transformation of the military into a sleek, lean fighting force.
Cloistered in a macho monastery with "The Decider" (as W. calls himself), Dick Cheney and Condi Rice, Rummy didn't want to hear dissent, or worries about Iraq, the tribes, the sects, the likelihood of insurgency or civil war, the need for more troops and armor to quell postwar eruptions.
"He didn't worry about the culture in Iraq," said Bernard Trainor, the retired Marine general who is my former colleague and the co-author of "Cobra II." "He just wanted to show them the front end of an M-1 tank. He could have been in Antarctica fighting penguins. He didn't care, as long as he could send the message that you don't mess with Hopalong Cassidy. He wanted to do to Saddam in the Middle East what he did to Shinseki in the Pentagon, make him an example, say, 'I'm in charge, don't mess with me.' "
The stoic Gen. Eric Shinseki finally spoke to Newsweek, conceding he had seen a former classmate wearing a cap emblazoned with "RIC WAS RIGHT" at West Point last fall. He said only that the Pentagon had "a lot of turmoil" before the invasion.
Just as with Vietnam, when L.B.J. and Robert McNamara were running the war, or later, when Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger took over, we now have leaders obsessed with not seeming weak, or losing face. Their egos are feeding their delusions.
The Decider Sticks With the Derider, by Maureen Dowd
The generals put a finer point on Rumsfeld needing to resign, leading Democrats and the American people back to where it all began, back to the discussion of getting out of Iraq.
Jack Murtha was right. He was talking to the generals and they were telling him how they felt about Rumsfeld, but also about Iraq. We've known it for months. The 37-year Marine Democratic war veteran was right all along. Hey, but why listen to the military man who has heard it straight from the generals? It's Bush who is the decider.
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The Hague!!
Fitzerama!
After McClellan’s resignation announcement - Marine 1 had some sort of trouble and had to be shut down (and i would imagine a replacement was used). Too bad it wasn’t in the air.
Reposted from near the end of the previous thread:
Here’s more via Raw Story:
http://cbs5.com/nationalpoliti.....93320.html
Breaking News — McClellan resigning.
Big whup.
You can change the book cover, but it’s still the same corrupt characters and plot.
Can at least one of the press corps at the next presidential press conference ask this dunce the simple question, “Are you at least aware in a recent Pew Research Centre survey, the word most chosen by Americans to describe you is ‘incompetent’?”?
Is that too much to ask for?
At least he didn’t say “Deciderator”
Hehe Taylor! I was wondering when someone would hone in Bush’s voices!
No kidding, timewarp.
Yea timewarp, I hope he ‘hears’ dead people.
Squealer…we hardly knew ye…
(Thank God)
~
From CNN’s article about McClellan’s departure:
“In another move in an ongoing shakeup of the White House staff, longtime confidant and adviser Karl Rove is giving up oversight of policy development to focus more on politics with the approach of the fall midterm elections, a senior administration official said Wednesday.”
You talk about the NYT’s “Infernal wall of pay.” I want to point out that many people can make an end-run around that wall (legally) by using their public library. Go to your library’s home page and see what they have in the way of databases. Mine has this vast selection of all kinds of things, including NYT. I usually go to the NYT, restrict the search to last 7 days, and search on “Op-ed”. Obviously, you can use any search you want, like author name or words in the story.
You can go back years and years, too.
So check it out.
So who will be lying to us next?
I would like to provide Scotty with a world tour so that he can take a close look at everything he has been lying about. Was it for the money? Love? He might tell us, but no one would believe him.
Easy suggestions for stops on his tour:
Baghdad
Falluja
Abu Ghraib
Baghram
Guantánamo
New Orleans
I’m sure others can think of more destinations.
And if he meets anybody there who has a question or two, I hope he’ll be kind enough to stick around and try to answer them. It would be especially edifying if he could do it on camera.
Is this a junket that the government might fund?
EPU’d: Folks were asking about how the CT primary works. Am not a resident, but here goes, the cheap seats version:
Lamont is trying to get onto the primary ballot by one of two ways: (1) getting 15% of the delegate votes at the May 20 convention; or (2) gathering a large number of signatures. The actual primary is not until August 8. Initially they were just trying to get publicity by wooing delegates, now it looks like they will exceed the minimum for May by quite a lot.
I would donate more to the Lamont primary campaign but it would be against the law :D
Lamont: endorsed by egregious.
BEAT LIEBERMAN.
Taylor, good morning and thank you for overtopping the infernal wall of pay.
good god
Rummy wanted to invade Iraq because he thought it would be easy, compared with Iran or North Korea, or compared with finding Osama. He could do it cheap and show off his vaunted transformation of the military into a sleek, lean fighting force.
that is almost perfect in it’s distillaton and digestibility
Shez, I know. Actually, it sounds like he just argues with them. “I hear the voices and . . . [I told them] I am the decider.
In yesterday’s Wapo article, it appears that Laura let it slip that he ocaissionally looses a bit of sleep now and then. I’ll bet he does, that is unless he is drugged up every night.
[The Decider] ‘hears’ dead people.
That explains a lot — I feel like I’m trapped in an asylum, with the looniest of the inmates running the joint. Except that it doesn’t feel like a nut house, but more like the Stanley Hotel in “The Shining.”
“Heree’s Georgie!!!”
I thought he didn’t read the papers.
Make up your mind, George.
And Helen’s next victim is…?
ohdave, how can he make up his mind when he doesn’t have one? He’s been drinking de cider.
Morning, cbl and all, you’re welcome re: the NY Times. I don’t do that often at all, but today’s Dowd was worth it.
ROFL emptywheel! I was thinking the same thing… rev up our Helen. Who in the world would ever want Scotty’s job with this country in the condition it is in?
Poll on Impeachment:
http://www.democrats.com/node/8623
Who taught him to speak? I think his speech patterns take after his father’s. Aside from his malaprops, I think Poppy also used to make odd substantives instead of using the verb. It sounds so odd - but telling - when Junior says “I’m the decider” instead of “I decide”.
Shez - Would you believe Tony Snow? Yep, that’s the buzz. We’ll see.
Shez:
““ohdave, how can he make up his mind when he doesn’t have one? He’s been drinking de cider.”
ROFL. That was beautiful, and I didn’t even see it coming!
Gary,
It’s a semantical distinction that is very telling of this idiot chimp’s unbounded EGO…
HE is the “decider”…
HE is also batshit crazy…
Shouldn’t say it, but I’d prefer decedent over decider.
Wow Taylor, I hadn’t heard Snow may be thinking of taking it. Yikes.
I hope Helen eats him for lunch.
He suggested invading Iraq the day after 9/11.
I thought the decider decided this before even stealing office.
sonate says:
April 19th, 2006 at 7:29 am
And it appears that Shez beat everyone to the punch. *g*
Watertiger ROCKS!
http://derenegade.blogspot.com.....n-air.html
from now on, i will call him ‘george the decider’, you know, kinda like ‘tim the enchanter’
Well, Scott McClellan is gone, resigned.
Hip, hip hooray! I wonder what Lieberman’s position on Iran is. I bet he’d make a good stand-in for scottie, but something tells me even Republicans can’t stand the garden gnome.
Timewarp, voices. Yes & those “biographers” seem to think it’s a good thing. If he’s still talking to poppy, he could borrow some halcyon(?), haldol(?)Was that what it was(?)
Gee, breaking, Rove losing his “policy portfolio”
Of course Bush may be referring to Karl Rove’s voice in his ear as he feeds him statements. I keep meaning to check Rove’s grammar.
There wasn’t a link to the Tony Snow angle until recently. Here it is…
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192250,00.html
Wow these Chimpco shakeups, bolder and more momentous than a missing white woman…
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Rove focusing more on STEALING THE 2006 ELECTIONS than on policy.
So, where in the administration, will Snooty Scotty pop his head? What will his new job be?
Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf, carpe diem!!!
Decider in da house!! Decidin shit like a muthafucka!!
Didn’t Trudeau point out that it’s the stem cells that keep him up at night?
Bingo, Tennessean.
A question. My take on Rove’s “demotion,” as RawStory put it, is that it’s just time for Rover to gear up his typical mud-slinging election campaign. Does anyone here believe that there is more substance to this “demotion”?
I could possibly go with ” a president of the USA” deciding~ BUT based on good solid intelligence and logic and sensible reasoning included. Sadly… it simply does not work that way for this decider.
and the Rove thing is for “looks only”
R.I.P., Mime Scotty…Your invisible walls between you and the press scrum were the best…
Frankly Snow is a tad more repellant the Fudgie McLellan. Snow has a tendency to be a bit more PRICKly than old Puffy McMoonface.
Also, did they make the offer to Snow aftet the ghost of Josef Geobbels declined the offer?
It is also good to see Bush putting Rove out front for the elections too. After the last year, the Boy Wonder has become the Boy Blunder. Keep up the good work Rove–maybe you can get the entire federal government and your party to the 18% Deadeye Dick Cheney bottom of the barrel.
Gotta go now, I hear voices.
-GSD
I see Red Sheeple.
-GSD
count me in the group that sez ‘yawn’ over the shakeup of criminals. they’re still plotting to steal more of our taxdollars and elections, no matter what the final list of perpetrators may be.
I have this theory that Bush gets these “decision memos” put in front of him, with only one option listed, and then a single box for a check mark at the bottom. Then the “decider” puts a check in the box.
Prezidentin’s hard work… but decidin’s easy!
somewhat OT….
SurveyUSA reports that only four states show a positive net approval rating for Shrub….Idaho, Nebraska, Utah and Wyoming.
Karen Hughes is the one that hired Scotty. Have there been women in this position?
I heard that Scotty wanted to spend more time lying to his family.
I can’t help but take pleasure over every BushCo official that is kicked to the curb.
Chimpy looks out of breath in the video. Perhaps he & Dick should take a vacation together, do a little quail hunting.
Jesus’General has a post on Joe & Rummy, & Joe on Iran. Looks like Lieberman is digging in his heels and shifting for a seat on the Titanic.
“I see Red Sheeple.”
-GSD
Mwuhahahaha!
Can everyone feel the difference in the air today? I have a feeling we’ll be chuckling all day.
Happy Patriot’s Day, y’all. Can hardly wait for Jane to come back on with her take on the latest Plamegate filings. Ok, breaks over. back to work.
Don’t ya know, being the “decider” also entails being the one who decides who takes the responsibility and the falls for all decisions. Decider-in-Chief means deciding to be the “blame shifter” and “finger pointer” for all decisions gone haywire. Decider-in-Chief means never having to take responsibility if he decides he doesn’t want it.
OT: PLAMEGATE
David Corn: ‘Rove on the stand?’
snip
When the issue of Valerie Wilson’s employment is viewed in its proper context, and the full story is revealed, it will be clear that Ms. Wilson’s role was a peripheral issue. If the press stories surrounding the governments NIE disclosure illustrate anything, it is that this case is factually complex and that the government’s notion that it involves only Mr. Libby and the OVP [Office of the Vice President] is a fairy tale.
snip
READ THE STORY HERE:
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/a.....743#299505
The Decider was heard humming this morning:
Gonna see my picture on the cover
Gonna buy five copies for my mother
Gonna see my smilin’ face
On the cover of the Rollin’ Stone
Rove needs more time to cook up an even more deadly vote brew with alot more dirty tricks. Watch for republicans to be “spied” on, computers missing, everything that Rove plans to do, he will first blame on the dems.
I sure hope the politicians are ready to fight. Yea, that’s what I think too. Have said it before but the dems act like the Vikings football team (and I know being from MN) in the 4th qtr with a lead of 9. Sit back and wait for victory-NOT.
FLIP-FLOP
After months of badgering from all sides, remember the suggestions of bringing in a Republican ‘greybeard’ just like Reagan did, they WH has finally belatedly recognized the need to change directions.
FLIP-FLOP
There must have been some pretty interesting discussions regarding the change over at Chief of Staff. Might I suggest that Bolton wouldn’t have taken the job without the authority to make the biggest change…out with Rove.
Bush’s brain outperforms all in running elections, (see boy moron as president), but yet the slash and burn take no prisoners lying low road campaign style obviously doesn’t translate well to policy implementation…see Plame leak.
Now that we won’t have Scotty MacLyin’ to kick around anymore, has anyone read the book his father wrote? The one that says LBJ was behind the JFK hit?
If he had included Nixon and Allen Dulles and Poppy Bush, it might have gotten more attention.
Tony Snow!?1? Can fiction ever be stranger than this animal farm reality we are living in? A fair and balanced fauxnews anchor as press secretary?
Fran, what gets me is if Kerry did anything he’s a flip flopper, when Bush flip flops he’s “reversing course”.
ya know, 231 years ago today, a bunch of farmers stood up to King George III and “fired the shot heard ’round the world.” Let’s hope Fitz has an announcement to make today. Would be fitting.
*You are making the bold assumption that Karen Hughes is a woman.
*That Billy Joel song is ringing in my head: “And we would all go down, together.”
*Does anyone else find it very funny that the Chinese President would make his first priority a visit with Bill Gates–a full on state visit–and give a nice drive by meeting with Bush? Mr. Decider, lots of people have decided that you a lame ass duck.
*Also:
“CIA mines ‘rich’ content from blogs
By Bill Gertz
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
April 19, 2006″
I thought that blogs were where the fever swamp was? I thought, as Joke Line said: “They offer no facts”. Now everybody wants in. Scotty come latelys I guess.
-GSD
Badwater 62
hahahahahahahaha
Rove in charge of mid-term election strategy?! If there is a God, Allah, Jehovah, whatever, Rove will receive his conspiracy indictment just in time to blow open this summer’s Traitorgate scandal.
And then just to top things off, the Decider will chosse not to accept Rove’s resignation.
I believe Annie Lennox said it best, “Sweet dreams are made of this…”
Taylor, you bested maureen because you said the decider had taken away any walls that separated him from what rummy’s been doing — maureen spins her wheels talking about rummy as if he was an independent doer — i’ll bet if anything it was bush & cheney who made rummy take us into iraq against rummy’s own judgment
mui @ #35 wondered: ” I wonder what Lieberman’s position on Iran is”?
Dave Horovitz from The Jerusalem Post interviewed Lieberman this week. Yesterday, they printed excerpts of the interview, which they’ll run in the upcoming weekend (Friday) edition. He talks about Iran a lot. Here’s a quote from yesterday’s article:
“We’ve come some distance here with regard to Iran, fairly quickly, and I’m not saying that it says without doubt that there’ll be military action, but there’s been movement… We’re taking this very seriously.â€
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/S.....2FShowFull
Taylor — another fine post. Thanks. Going to miss Scotty. He was the perfect representative of a lying, inept administration; a daily reminder that these people had/have no regard for the truth.
And if you’re “behind the pay wall,” you no doubt saw the other column today by Tom Friedman — more devastating that Ms.Dowd. Tom asks, given the choice between trusting Bush et al to attack Iran and letting Iran have nukes, which would you choose? Answer: Let ‘em have nukes, because no one in their right minds would trust the Bush gang to make intelligent decisions, think through the consequences, explore diplomatic alternatives fully or gather international support. so much for “I’m the decider, and I [can] decide what’s best . . .” That, my friends, is the semi-official announcement of the end of any pretense that Bush and the Repubs can be trusted with national security. That era is over, and not soon enough.
Tom also notes, “if this were a parliamentary system,” Bush and his entire crowd would have been removed from office long ago. Although Blair’s presence may suggest otherwise?
And there’s already news on where McClellan is going and who his replacement might be! :-)
http://www.democrats.com/node/8626
Have you visited Dailykos for the Dr. Seuess tribute/poem “I’m the Decider”
Laugh out loud funny!!
By the way, what do EPU & SCOTUS mean??
Keep up the great work, FDL!!!!!
Tony Snow? What, Ben Domenech isn’t available?
Hoping hard that Fitz has the Veep in his crosshairs and he’s ready to pull the trigger. We are into crunch time on Iran.
Peace.
I see Red Sheeple.
-GSD
Mwahahaha
Listening to the Gang of Four “to Hell With Poverty”
In this land - Right Now
Some are insand - and they’re in charge
truer 25 years later
I’m the decider.
I pick and I choose.
I pick among whats.
And choose among whos.
And as I decide
Each particular day
The things I decide on
All turn out that way
I decided on Freedom
For all of Iraq.
And now that we have it,
I’m not looking back.
I decided on tax cuts
That just help the wealthy.
And Medicare changes
That aren’t really healthy.
And parklands and wetlands
Who needs all that stuff?
I decided that none
Would be more than enough!
I decided that schools
All in all are the best
The less that they teach
And the more that they test.
I decided those wages
You need to get by
Are much better spent
On some CEO guy.
I decided your Wade
Which was versing your Roe
Is terribly awful
And just has to go.
I decided that levees
Are not really needed.
Now when hurricanes come
They can come unimpeded.
That old Constitution?
Well, I have decided
As”just goddam paper”
It should be derided.
I’ve decided gay marriage
Is icky and weird.
Above all other things,
It’s the one to be feared.
And Cheney and Rummy
And Condi all know
That I’m the Decider -
They tell me it’s so.
I’m the Decider
So watch what you say
Or I may decide
To have you whisked away.
Or I’ll tap your phones.
Your e-mail I’ll read.
`cause I’m the Decider -
Like Jesus decreed.
Yes, I’m the Decider
The finest alive
And I’m nuking Iran.
Now watch this drive!
Roddy McCorley wrote this over at Daily Kos. Sorry for putting the link at the bottom but it appeared to do something hinky at the top.
some are insane - and they’re in charge
Sorry. I put a link into my post but it appears not to have taken. The post is curently at the top of the Rec list or http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....85016/217, if you prefer.
How do you do links now on this blog?
Here you go Bionic, the link to the poem. A thanks to MaryH for pointing it out.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....185016/217
Tony Snow as press secretary: still an “inside the family†hire…only difference will be that the lies will be easier to listen to than Scotty’s halting, my-brain-is-having-trouble-retrieving-info delivery (The president has. Made it clear that. We are engaged in. A war on terror. And he will not rest. Until we have killed the terrorists.) and Brit Hume will be even more smug and condescending than anyone thought humanly possible because the inside track will be firmly carved in the shape of the Fox News logo.
I do not believe for one minute that Rove will be relinquishing true control of anything, and it is my hope that legal matters will seriously interrupt his master plan of world domination.
The president says he’s the decider. Well, I’m the voter, and the taxpayer and the homeowner and the worker and the bill-payer, and I’m decidin’ this: he and the band of incompetents that populate all three branches of government have got to go, and I’ll do whatever it takes to make it happen.
scarecrow–Glad you mentioned Friedman–I couldn’t bear to because muddled into his analysis of Iran, he is really calling for Rummy’s ouster.
Thanks Shez, but I was trying to link through Roddy’s name. When I put it at the top of the post, the entire poem would become a link and then apparently when I put it at the bottom it didn’t create the link. Weird.
Think Rove is dicking with me?
Why, thanks, undercoverdick (#72), I appreciate it. There’s no doubt that Bush backing Rummy separates him from all excuses on Iraq. That they didn’t realize it doesn’t surprise me. The traditional media still hasn’t caught on to it.
I see where you posted an article about Rummy, is there any way you would consider running this about him and Cheney MSM won’t pick it up and it seems to be going no where on KOS, help some vets Mike use what you can and delete the rest help us spread the word about their crimes against the veterans and widows
Rumsfeld is ignorining because of the chemical weapons and drug tests that Rumsfeld and Cheney were part of the approving authority back in 1974 and 1975, and now are preventing them from getting their benefits. Might be interesting. Here the facts
Mr, St. Onge I enjoyed your article about Rumsfeld being tainted by the Iraq War, in my eyes and 7120 other American families eyes, he has long been tainted. We are the veterans of the Edgewood Arsenal chemical weapons and drug experiments that were funded by DOD and the CIA.
Mr Rumsfeld and Cheney were in Ford’s White House and in the loop of people that would have had to agree to continuing the classified program that they inherited from Nixon’s administration. When the 1975 DA IG report on human experimentation was released, President Ford was forced to stop the tests due to pressure from Congress and the public, they did not stop them because they were wrong and illegal, they stopped under a Presidentail order. What is worse that it is now 31 years later and Rumsfeld is preventing DOD from “finding” these veterans and their widows to get them their veteran benefits from the VA, they don’t need to be allowed to resign they need to be indicted. Some laws have had to have been broken.
Here is the links and the KOS articles I have been posting. Spend 10 minutes reading the links I think you will see there is a story here.
about Edgewood or the tests, or about the crimes Cheney and Rumsfeld committed in 1974 and 1975. Test Vet’s Here’s all the evidence anyone needs to verify this
//home.comcast.net/~knowlto/places.htm para 7
http://www.nap.edu/books/030904832X/html/378.html DA IG 1975
http://www.iom.edu/CMS/3795/4913/5842.aspx March 2003 Sarin study based on Edgewood vets
http://www1.va.gov/vhi/docs/CBR_www.pdf VA health manual published in Oct 2003 28 years after the tests were ended
http://veterans.house.gov/demo.....ficial.htm April 28th Letter from Lane Evans and Ted Strickland to the VA Secretary with a list of 10,000 names from Biological weapons test at Fort Dretick and 7120 names from Edgewood
Oct 5 2005 letter from Sec Nicholson to Lane Evans why the VA can not use the lists of names they sent him in April 2005
The whole mess is reprehensible, depriving disabled vets and widows of their benefits, what happened to “A Promise Made Is A Promise Kept” Mike Bailey testvet 6778A Jun25 1974 thru 22 August 1974…
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/4/16/75517/1395
Why a NCO feels Rummy should go
by testvet6778 [Subscribe] [Edit Diary]
Sun Apr 16, 2006 at 04:55:17 AM PDT
Everyone in the military knows that NCO’s are the backbone of the Army, but no one really pays them any attention. After all Officer’s are schooled, intelligent men and women that have been trained to lead. Guess what folks, NCO’s are trained to lead and make decisions also, and I know quite a few NCO’s that probably could have managed this war, better than Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Bush have, they certainly couldn’t have done any worse, given what the past 3 years have shown us.
I doubt they would ignore, Colin Powell and General Shinseki, and cast them aside as yesterday’s news. Old dirty laundry that were just bothering them.
testvet6778’s diary :: ::
We have a “Photo Op” Commander in Chief, the flight deck “Mission Accomplished” scene, the “plastic” turkey from 2 years ago. We have a nasty old man in the Sec of Defense chair, that at the age of 43 who approved the use of the nations enlisted men in illegal chemical weapons and drug tests at Edgewood Arsenal in 1974 and in 1975 as Sec of Defense helped the CIA fund the exact same experiments, until President Ford was forced to order an end to the abuse of enlisted men in human subject experiments that violated the Nuremberg Codes of 1947.
The nation and Congress have allowed DOD to never accept responsibility in that fiasco, and are still allowing DOD to ignore the responsibility of medical care and compensation of the “test vets” and their widows, in the year 2006. DOD claims they can’t “find” the men, that is another LIE from Bush and Company, DOD paid a million dollars to find these men in FY 2000 and released this report in March 2003 based on data gathered in 2000 from the still living 4022 men, they learned that 40% of the men were already dead 2098 of them, and yet DOD ignored these “honorable” veterans and widows, why? http://www.iom.edu/…
The men who authorized the violations of the Nuremberg Codes have never been held accountable for the acts, some of them have been elected to office or appointed, Dick Cheney as Ford’s Chief of Staff had to know about the human tests, as DOD Secretary Rumsfeld had to approve the funds to pay for the tests. Yet here is again screwing up the military of today WHY? They have shown they are evil, why are we surprised at Abu Grahib, renditions, torture, unending detentions in Gulag style accomodations, this group of men are the wrong people, in the wrong place at the wrong time, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Dumbya need to go, before they completely destroy this nation.
We need more Generals to speak out, this isn’t mutiny, this is the truth coming out, and the skeletons are ugly.
The army claims I only listened to a “radio” can anyone please tell me the nomenclature of this radio? This is a pic of me at age 18 in 1974 while at Edgewood Arsenal from June - Sep 1974 http://www.thewhyfiles.net/… and can anyone else explain to me why a “classified” military photo can be found on the internet?
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An Open Letter to Our President
by testvet6778 [Subscribe] [Edit Diary]
Mon Apr 17, 2006 at 05:48:05 AM PDT
This is a letter to our President and I regret I feel I must do it as an open letter, but I feel if I sent it to the White House, that he would never see it.
Right, wrong or indifferent he is an American President, not a republican not a Democrat, the seat you are occupying is an elected National seat, you are accountable to all of us and history.
You still have a chance to correct some of your mistakes, before history writes it’s last chapter on your Presidency. I feel it is time you do a Ronald Reagan style “Mea Culpa” and below the fold is why:
testvet6778’s diary :: ::
Mr Bush, the men in power around you from your Father’s Presidency I feel have had an agenda that differs from you, and due to their “trusted counsel” you have chosen to go along with their ideas. Mr Cheney and Rumsfeld’s desire to overthrow Saddam.
Mr Rumsfeld is the one who was the Middle East envoy in 1987 and 1988 that helped Saddam obtain the chemicals needed to make the chemical weaposn he used on his “people” and the Iranians in the 80’s.
They were part of a group that wrote a “White Paper” in the early 90’s explaining on why the U.S. needed to overthrow Saddam. This was not in response to 9/11, this is an agenda they have held for decades. An agenda that is destroying your Presidency.
These trusted men of government, men who served in our nations capitol while you were still in college and the National Guard. They have a lot of experience, and a lot of skeletons in their closets. They have worked together for decades, they protect each other, their loyalty is to each other, not this nation.
They committed crimes in the mid 70’s while in Ford’s White House they have never been held accountable for and the programs they approved or had knowledge of, caused death and disability to the men invovled, and they are still ignoring these “honorable” veterans and their widows, 31 plus years after Congress made President Ford stop the human testing that the CIA and DOD had been funding from 1952 thru 1975.
These “honorable” men around you did not stop the human experiments because they were wrong, they stopped them because they got caught. In the meantime DOD and the government have not sought to “find” these veterans of Edgewood Arsenal amd Fort Detrick’s biological and chemical weapons and LSD, PCP etc experiments.
I do not have a clue how the health of the Fort Detrick test subjects is, there have been no known long term health studies of them, but Mr Bush, the IOM did a health study on the Edgewood vets, 7120 of them. In March 2003 the last study by Dr Page was released and it shows that 40% of the men are dead 2098, and of the 4022 survivors they found in FY 2000, that 54% of them are disabled about 2200 men. http://www.iom.edu/…
Your Secretary of Defense seems to be involved in keeping these men and their widows from obtaining their veteran benefits, why?
Mr President, you can probably still clean up this mess, by asking these men for their resignations. Your duty is to this country, not to a political party. Republicans and Democrats both need to realize, that being an American is the first consideration in anything being done. How does it affect their nation, not how can I get more votes. This country is more divided now than at any other point in our nations history, you have the ability to bring it together again, will you? P.S. My wife sends her best wishes to your wife Laura.
Michael Bailey a disabled veteran
Lexington SC
Tags: Bush, C
Mt St Onge my number is 803-808-5371 if you have any questions
George is just showing off his powers.
The CinC gets to use whatever words he wants to describe himself.
I caught a bit of Washington Post radio (yeah, they’re on the radio in DC now, too) talking about the Rove change, and the first reason the reporter suggested (after lip service to the idea the Rove is focusing on the elections) was that Rove is being moved to a less prominent title to be less embarassing in case he gets dragged into the Plame case.
This is good. No one is buying for a minute that Rove’s actual role is changing, just his title. And there’s only one possible reason for that.
A note on ‘voices”.
As an Intern in a State hospital, one of my tasks was to engage in activities with the patients, and pinochle was the game of choice. i was always partnered with this big black guy (who had a rather violent history,)and this guy would confer with his “voices’ to get instructions on how to bid his hand. Not so bad, until he started getting upset with me because I wasn’t following his voices telling me how to bid my hand!!! Got kinda scary there for a couple of times.
point: Sounds like the “Decider,’ is having a similar experience!!
This cover is treasonous. It tells state secrets.
Up until now, our enemies have thought the opposition was being led by a true leader. Now they have been told our leader is an idiot, which they didn’t know for sure.
Rolling Stone has sold out America and it’s citizens by exposing that our King ain’t so good a leader or person.
Great poem!
Anne: yes, come November, we are the “deciders,” and there isn’t much Bush can do about that.
noblejoanie — I agree, Friedman takes a shot at rummy, but I thought the bigger shot was at the security competence of Bush and his entire security team.
MaryH 76 - SCOTUS=Supreme Court of the US
EPU = act of having your brilliant post left behind on an old thread after a new thread has begun; so named for commenter Evil Parallel Universe
As Maureen Dowd states, LBJ and McNamara were quite loath to admit that their policies and decisions were hurting the country and Vietnam. It took McNamara some thirty five years before he admitted that he was “terribly, terribly wrong” in his persistence of pushing his belligerent policies upon a backward nation. Will Rumsfeld wait until he is 108 years old before he issues his mea culpa to the nation and to the descendants of all those Iraqis who were killed and maimed and wounded by his stubborn insistence to have this country invade another backward nation?
Geesh…. when I said I heard the voices they Baker Acted me. Life just ain’t fair.
Robert Scheer nails it again.
‘The quandary in which Bush finds himself regarding Iran’s apparent quest for nuclear weapons is only the latest example in an astonishing series of national security blunders.
First, he vacationed while a crescendo of intelligence warnings of imminent terrorist attack blossomed into the spectacle of Sept. 11, 2001. Then, he allowed the mastermind of those attacks, Osama bin Laden, to escape while diverting U.S. resources into Iraq to save the world from Saddam Hussein’s nonexistent WMDs. Now, tied down in Iraq’s civil strife, Bush holds no high cards in a dangerous poker match with Iran.’
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....19375.html
We’ve come some distance here with regard to Iran, fairly quickly, and I’m not saying that it says without doubt that there’ll be military action, but there’s been movement… We’re taking this very seriously.â€
I don’t know why I’m upset–not surprised, just upset–but I am. Just who does Lieberman mean by “We”?
Taylor,
Here’s Josh Marshall’s take on Tony Snow as Scotttiebot’s replacement:
Okay, this is pretty funny.
Fox is reporting that Fox’s own Tony Snow may be Scott McClellan’s replacement as White House press secretary.
Isn’t that more like an interdepartmental transfer than a job change?
So here’s what I want to know, is does anyone else remember all that “I will defer to the commmanders in the field” horseshit Bush was spouting a while back? When did that turn in to “I’m the deciderator, nobuddy bedder make no deciderations but me“?
Bionic, did you remember your closing anchor tag: [/a] for the alternate text to the link?
“Crash” McClellan, to his WH presser successor:
“OK, meat, ya gotta work on your cliches, your cliches are your friends…”
‘again, we have a firm policy, and that policy is that we do not comment on an ongoing legal proceeding…’
‘AGAIN, you’re trying to get me to go down that road, but I’ve already said that our policy is that we do not comment on an ongoing legal proceeding…’
‘I REPEAT, you’re still trying to get me to go there, but, again, I’ve already pointed out that our policy is that we do not comment on an ongoing legal proceeding…’
‘you want to stay fixated on this, that’s fine, but the President is focused on the important business of the American people…’
Boy, if the Bush folks are trolling around the net looking at blogs, they must be getting depressed as all hell.
67% of the people think he is and incomeptant, war-mongering, dry-drunk, spoiled rich, depleater of the natural resources, gas-price increaser, housing bubble maker, corruption King, friend of petty thieves, criminals, bribers, fortunate son of a former President, pappy to lay about drunk daughters, husband to a pie-eyed homicide driver, ruiner of New Orleans, propagandist, tyrant wannabe, spying on the people, torture advocate, English language mangling, moody, scarred-up faced, nitwit extraordinaire who turned the number one nation into a slag heap of a rotting empire hated by the entire world except Poland, Israel and the Marianas Islands.
The other 33% are Kool-aid besotted apologists with violent tendencies, bad spelling abilities, ALL CAPITAL LETTER YELLING, poor motor functions, unable to determine truth from fiction, fascist, racist, sexist, anti-women anti-gay, Neo-Confederate, radical Christianists calling for the deaths of all who oppose them.
Keep on reading guys, it is as bad as it looks.
-GSD
Thanks, Sharkbabe for #93 & clearing up the mystery.
I read a while back that Winston Churchill was a ‘voice hearer,’ he struggled with it for many years, I suppose because he knew the voices weren’t real….
mui– I think he’s talking about the White House– I think he has the WH’s blessing to carry this dirty water. The Senate Armed Services committee has not been briefed acc to his own words…
Not too terribly suprising…
Yeah, I saw that, Ed*ard Teller. Josh is right on.
Ah wait, I feel better already angie. Thomas Hooker comment, maybe #64ish, on the last Joe-traitor thread.
George is just showing off his powers.
Showing off his super duper powers — to invent words and stuff, and leap inconvenient facts in single pratfall . . .
I guess I’m being rhetorical, cause I’ve been banking on Republicans throwing Joe to the curb when he’s outliveed his usefulness as “bipartisan.”
LOL geez GSD, the only thing you left out was the lady in Sugarland that filed a rape charge against Bush and was found dead less than 9 months later. And was it Leno the other night who said 7% of the population still believes in the easter bunny and they are Bush’s base?
Here is an interesting piece from the high Himalayas published in Share Intenational Magazine.
Aiding the Cause of Peace July/ August 2003
It is frequently the case that, in acting for what is seen by them as the good of the world, countries wreak havoc on a world scale. So dense are the fogs of glamour which surround their actions, so illusory is their thinking, that great harm may be done, and much pain and suffering caused, for the best of reasons.
Thus it is today. In recent times, the USA, under the banner of ‘the war against terrorism’, has invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, causing thousands of civilian deaths and great physical damage to their infrastructures. The Taliban, fanatical and rigid but, in the main, uninvolved in terrorism, are dispersed but are now regrouping, training in the skills of terror. In Iraq, Saddam Hussein is no more, but a terrible legacy of deprivation and suffering, lawlessness and chaos, has replaced his baleful regime.
Now the attention of the US administration has turned to Syria, Iran and North Korea; they are warned to change or face the wrath and might of the upholders of ‘peace’, and the champions of ‘liberty’ in the world.
Thus does America plunge the world into the atmosphere of stress and fear, and thus do these give fruit to epidemics and natural disasters, which, in turn, serve to increase the fear and stress.
Dangerous
What can be done to stabilize this dangerous situation? How can the nations keep America in check? By what means can ordinary people bring their weight to bear? These are large questions and have, indeed, no simple answers. They require wisdom of an exceptional order and a co-ordinated approach.
Firstly, the world must realize the true nature of the problem: the USA today is led by men responsive to a nefarious energy which prompts their actions and puts peace in jeopardy. It stimulates their glamour for power of an international extent, and threatens the peace of the world. It has outposts in Israel and Eastern Europe, Israel being the major focus. This destructive energy derives, though in diminished potency, from that which plunged the world into chaotic war during the twentieth century and which, men thought, was safely put to rest.
It can be seen, therefore, how necessary it is that there be peace in the Middle East; how necessary it is that the Palestinians have true justice and a viable homeland. This is the most important problem facing men today. Failure to solve it would be disastrous for the world.
Bush & voices. John Podhoretz & Star Wars. Are any red-staters catching the drift? I wonder.
Decider
Decoder
Hmmmm. I am going to check my dictionary, I think I am on to something very deep.
Prof Foland - Please answer my graviton question - its been bothering me since I was a singularity.
mui– I think Holy Joe may get the SecDef position if rummy is out due to the pressure from the generals and the new allegations of his personal supervision of torture… Human Rights Watch wants him indicted.
shez is onto something - the Easter Bunny?
I wonder what percentage of the 34% who still believe in Bush believe in:
Santa Claus
New Earth Creationism
The Rapture
the world isn’t getting warmer
etc….
Edward, it’s you who are on to something! What a great question, yes how many are flat earthers and such?
bet it took a cabinet meeting to convince him not to say “I’m the picker”;
ccmask-Deedee Myers was Clinton’s Press Sec.
DD is spot on about the in-your-face machismo feuling those criminals. I always thought that the GOP foisting that idiot-manchild on the US was its way of telling the world to shut up and get in line–’we can (and will) do anything.’
and a grinner, and a joker, and a sinner?
EPU–I’m still heartened by your image/metaphor of beating the dead horse that’s already left the barn…again, many thanks…
He’s the “decider”. Who could disagree? Or find a more emblematic term for the most incompetent, including grammatically, president ever?
EPU as befitting a Space Cowboy…
Point of information — “decider” is in fact a word.
Wondering - My pleasure.
O/T kinda
y’all seen this ?
via Attaturk, courtesy Sydney Morning Herald
‘Allawi executes prisoners in cold blood’
linked text
the usual grain of salt is required as it may be a disinfo trick to get rid of the ‘problem’, never mind, they are not that f***ing smart
ck has it figured out. Of course the president is the decider. He gets to make up words and laws and everything. Remember we all live in the reality-based community, but we are only reacting to the reality that the DECIDER and his team have created for us.
I think all of this is a very strong theme for November. I can see the commercial now:
“I’m the decider.”
President Bush
April 18, 2006
Had Enough?
On November 7, the decision is yours.
lawguy- someone yesterday pointed out a decider is a machine that always halts; we are still waiting :)
Lawguy, shhhhhh don’t tell Bush that.
OKAY, did anybody pick up the big news in Bush’s latest Bushism?
“I hear the voices, and I read the front page”
So we now know that Bush hears voices. And that he DOES pay some direct attention to newspapers, sans filters.
I know, I know.
But nonetheless worthy of note.
Is it officially time for the blame game yet?
-SD
think Holy Joe may get the SecDef position if rummy is out due to the pressure from the generals
Can you imagine angie: “Joey’s doing a heckuva job.” Those words are like poison now.
“On November 7, the decision is yours.”
I’m not so confident of that….
not without paper trail ballots…
I wonder how many hits Merriam Webster online got on ‘decider’ yesterday??? I know I did my part…
Voices, con’t
In a death penalty trial in East Texas during the eighties, the defense team was trying to get their client declared incompetent to stand trial. Of course, the State put on a Doctor to claim that the guy was as sane as a Judge (direct quote).
Defense: He sits in his cell and talks, right?
Dr. _____: Yes
Defense: And there is no one else there, right?
Dr. _____: Right.
Defense: He’s told you he is talking to God all day, right?
Dr. _____: Right
Defense : And he told you God talks back…
Dr. _____: Yes
Defense : So sitting in his cell, having a conversation all day with no one and talking to God and getting him to talk back is not a sign of incompetence?
Dr. _____: Not in East Texas.
No joke, I have the transcript (names removed).
immanentize:
O.M.G.
The Decider In Chief, or DIC (pronounced “DICK”).
mmanentize, ROFL! yer killin’ me!
Is it BobbyG who has the graphic of dyslexic Bush talking to Dog?
EPU–you’ll get it! Lost my first try last night on an ISP hiccup, but it was pretty confusing anyway–I’ve got a better explanation in my head now.
Dru - As befitting Space itself :)
OMG I was wrong, it’s The Heretik:
http://theheretik.typepad.com/.....ush_t.html
OT– I just checked my email and I got one from Al Gore and nearly fainted! It’s a fundraiser from the DCCC and says in part:
‘In all my years of public service I have never witnessed national political leaders as corrupt, incompetent and subservient to powerful special interests as George Bush and the Republican Rubber Stamp Congress.
The level of cynicism and crass political calculation that characterizes the Bush White House and the Republican-controlled Congress is truly breathtaking.
Critical public policy issues — from national security and global warming to public health and retirement security — seem to be formulated solely on the basis of what will please the special interests most important to maintaining the Republican Party’s stranglehold on the federal government. The needs of the American people be damned.’
Post from John Podesta at ThinkProgress:
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/.....clearance/
I’m not surprised that the Bushniks think that changing the messenger (McLellan) is going to fix it.
speaking of Al Gore:
Scientists Condemn US as Emissions of Greenhouse Gases Hit Record Level
by Steve Connor
The United States emitted more greenhouse gases in 2004 than at any time in history, confirming its status as the world’s biggest polluter. Latest figures on the US contribution to global warming show that its carbon emissions have risen sharply despite international concerns over climate change.
The figures, which were quietly released on Easter Monday, reveal that net greenhouse gas emissions during 2004 increased by 1.7 per cent on the previous year, equivalent to a rise of 110 million tons of carbon dioxide.
http://www.commondreams.org/he.....419-03.htm
“The Neatest, Bestest Decider EVER!!!”
- Harriet Meirs
Deciderer-in-Chief, Executive Yahoo
“DICEY”
How many volumes of “Bush-ism” books does it take to show that Bush really does have a problem with speech? There is overwhelming evidence that he has some sort of learning disability. With the machismo associated with being a Texan (even a faux Texan like Bush), Bush would probably never admit to such a thing. Ironically, if he did admit to having a learning disability (which, of course, does not indicate a lack of intelligence — that’s a co-morbidity in his case), the jokes would stop immediately. He would gain instant credibility and, I think, a good amount of sympathy from the public — liberal and conservative alike.
geez, that’s right Dru. How did I forget that….
OK, lyric contest, to the tune of the Pointers Sisters “I’m So Excited” -
“I’m the De-cid-er…”
C’mon, help out here.
Scott McClellan was getting beat up pretty good lately. The stonewalling, denials, spinning sound bytes, and obfuscation was hard work. Its time for a new press liar. Let’s see, there was Fleisher, McClellan…Were there any others? Fleisher got tangled up in the Plame affair. Maybe this McClellan was stepping into to dangerous (for him) territory. How many press secs does a presnit go through, typically?
Are they really gonna hire a FOX “news” guy?
Isn’t that illegal?
Not that I would admit to knowing Pointer Sisters’ lyrics (although my Dad loves them and constantly played them in the car when I was a younger universe)
“I’ve already lost control…..and damn I like it”
Bush is a dangerous lunatic who hears two voice’s: his own and god’s. God’s voice sounds suspiciously like Bush’s own voice. Not an uncommon occurance for most people. If god is the ultimate decider, I guess Bush is just following orders. Like he’s the Mini Me decider.
Bush thinks it’s his destiny to “bring democracy to the Middle East.” Actually, god has told Bush on the down low that Bush’s special mission is to bring on the End Times.
So why should the decider, who gets his marching orders from god, care about his place in history. It’s the End Times, dammit.
“I’m the Deee-CI-der…”
“I’m the Deee-CI-der…”
“I know, I know, I know, I know what’s best, y’all…”
My goodness this is fun.Watching Bushco come apart is much like an Indy racer smacking the wall at 240mph. Spinning in the air, cartwheeling,throwing parts all over the track,sliding upside down with fluids spraying everywhere.Bouncing off the infield wall, only to come to a grinding halt.Smoking and steaming with NO MORE GO.
cbl @ 124 April 19th, 2006 at 9:04 am
……
via Attaturk, courtesy Sydney Morning Herald
Both you and attaturk should have checked the date of that story:
Not that it isn’t entirely likely the man is a vicious thug and a self admitted CIA asset. Nevertheless to get any sort of political power he’d have to ally with al-Sadr and at least two other blocs. More than unlikely that they’d have him. Not impossible but highly improbable as things stand at present.
Shez
About the closing tag. Yes, that’s the first thing I checked. Tried fiddling but the entire post stayed linked.
When I shifted the info to the bottom that bottom paragraph didn’t even show up in preview. I decided to post the poem and then planned to post the info with link in a separate post. But you see what happened.
Understanding computers, I realize that the entire thing is somehow my fault. I just hate it when my computer refuses to tell what exactly it is I have done wrong.
I just checked the source code of what I first posted and Roddy McCorley in my original post is surrounded with [a] and [/a] tags ([ and ] are angle brackets in code) but there is no referenced URL. Should I have used square brackets?
C’est very strange.
Bionic - you created an anchor not a link. You didn’t point it at any URI
<a>Roddy McCorley</a> wrote this over at Daily Kos. Sorry for putting the link at the bottom but it appeared to do something hinky at the top.
I was glad to hear him say he’s The Decider, because it lends itself beautifully to a rallying cry:
Impeach the Decider!
Impeach the Decider!
Yup. Though I think “Fire The Decider!” makes a better bumper sticker.
Along with one saying “They Are Ripping You OFF!“
And “Tired? Elect a Democrat.“
Bionic, not sure if you’re still reading this thread. The preview here works kinda okay but has some kinks. Anything that is copy & pasted in won’t show up in preview until you enter another character, which can always be deleted if not needed but you just want to see what everything looks like, but sometimes even that doesn’t work right.
Mark is correct, (he’s a code wiz), the tag used is incomplete. I’ll use regular brackets instead of the needed angle brackets for the code:
[a href=”URL”]TEXT or TITLE[/a]
Turns into:
Roddy McCorley
Also, if you forget that second quotation mark around the URL after the ‘a href=’ the link won’t show up properly. Hope this helps anyone trying to learn how to make text an active link.
Shez and Mark, thanks for the info.
I did actually do a proper link. As I said, at the top of of the post it made the entire post a link to Roddy’s diary and at the bottom it lost the URI. Who knows why. Thanks for the info about making cut and paste show up. Will keep it in mind. Glad to know I should be able to create a proper link over here without learning any new code.
I thought Roddy’s Seussian ode to The Great Leader was sublime and wanted to share.
Oh well, no good deed goes unpunished.
sneaking around the NYT firewall to find Dowd:
http://guerillawomentn.blogspo.....stays.html
And watch those Diebold machines in the fall elections now that Karl’s on the job full time. Fitz, where are you?
A link at the top if unclosed will make the whole posting active. Sounds to me as if that was happened. easy enough to do goodness knows. For lenghty things I prefer to comments etc using a (non-wysiwyg) editor. Lots of good free ones out there. Notetab is good for windoze I’ve heard good things about bluefish for Mac.
HTH
Mark,
Trying not beat a dead horse but, an unclosed link was the first thing I thought of.
So I checked it. It was closed. I tried various other things and couldn’t get the entire thing unlinked.
So I cut what I had written and pasted it at the bottom, which wasn’t my first choice because I didn’t want anyone to think I was trying to pass off this inspired work as my own.
The pasted stuff didn’t show up in preview (Shez has since explained you have to type in another character to get it to show), so fed up, I decided to post it anyway and do an explanation in another post.
When it posted it removed the URI and kept only the anchor text. Why, I still don’t know.
Unless it was Rove dicking with me.
TO DECIDE OR NOT TO DECIDE…THAT IS THE DECISION
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....8952.shtml
CBS Exclusive Bush Interview
WASHINGTON, Jan. 27, 2006
Snips from a transcript of Bob Schieffer’s pre-State of the Union interview with President Bush.
SCHIEFFER: …can you give the American people, Mr. President, some sort of a time frame, for example, where do you think we’re going to be three months from now there, and what will troop levels be, say, come the fall?
PRESIDENT BUSH: You see, I–I can understand you wanting to ask that question and the American people, some wanting to–want me to give the answer to that. I can’t give the answer to that because I’m not the–the decider. What I can assure the American people of is that we’ve got a strategy to victory. We got a plan to see that the Iraqis take the fight. More and more Iraqis are taking the fight, and I’m going to listen to our commanders.
SCHIEFFER: Um-hmm.
PRESIDENT BUSH: One of the interesting lessons from the Vietnam era was it seemed like to me that politicians all were making the decisions and not the commanders on the ground a lot of times, and I–I have vowed that the American people, and I will follow through on that–that if General Casey and the generals there in Iraq that will be making the decisions as to the troop levels.
PRESIDENT BUSH: I–I can’t–I–I really don’t want to make that prediction. It would–it–it–it–I–I am going to make my decisions for the next three years based upon what our commanders recommend.
(snip)
SCHIEFFER: Has the presidency changed you, Mr. President?
PRESIDENT BUSH: I hope not. Well, I guess that’s not the right thing to say. I know it hadn’t changed my values and hadn’t changed my priorities. Of course it’s changed me because it’s–it’s–you know, I made a lot of decisions, Bob, and when you think hard and plan and make decisions, it has got to change you. 9/11 changed me. Yeah, it’s changed me to–you know, I hope I’m a better person for it. I will tell you, if given a chance to do it again, I would have said “you bet.” I highly recommend this job. It’s been a fantastic experience. I like making decisions. I like listening to smart people. I’m surrounded by a lot of them. I like the give and take in the political front, and I truly believe we are making a difference in the world, in our country.
I’ve commented on this story and linked back to this article and discussion on HAIL DUBYUS! also at http://blogs.salon.com/0002786