
Time Magazine has made Matt Cooper the political editor of Time.com. It's a great choice. In a world where giant media companies desirous of developing an online presence hire people like ex-sportswriter Jim Brady to spearhead their efforts apparently based on his ability to stand around the water cooler and refer to human resources as "bandwidth," it's a sign of exceptionally good judgment.
Cooper has been intimately involved in one of the blogosphere's key dialogs due to his role in l'affair Plame (recall that the Cooper piece that started the whole firestorm, "A War on Wilson," was not written for the magazine itself but appeared online). In fact Swopa is of the opinion that it was due solely to Cooper that the whole effort to smear Wilson and out Plame went horribly wrong -- he thinks Rove just got ahead of himself and blabbed to Cooper and thus the decision was made to "go wide," past trusted operatives like Miller and Novak.
Bill Keller can rail about the world's unwillingness to join him in "getting past" the Judith Miller incident even as it becomes ever more apparent day by day that her post-incarceration Sunset Boulevard dramaturgy was wholly self-serving and only fragmentally truthful, but it was Matt Cooper who set the gold standard for coming clean about what happened to him and who he spoke with.
Woodward and Miller have been willing tools of this administration from the get. Bob Novak was an open partisan on television, so everybody knew that they funneled information to him and he printed it for political purposes. These two (and their supporting players in television news) were the most important journalists in Washington working for the two most important papers in the country and the national news outlets. Among all the journalistic players in this, the only one who wrote the real story, in real time, was Matt Cooper. He's the one who should be getting the journalism awards, not Judy Miller. He's the only one who fulfilled his duty as a journalist and told his readers what their leaders were doing.
Says the Time press release:
A man of many formats, Matt moonlights as a standup comedian--he was once named "Washington's Funniest Celebrity"--and shares our ambition of making Time.com a multimedia experience. In his new gig, he will split his time between writing a regular column, assigning and editing stories, and helping to develop new political features for the 2006 elections and beyond.
I think it's a great choice -- Cooper's smart, ethical and yes, funny. But one thing, Matt, and we're BEGGING you here -- please limit our exposure to Joe Klein. Let's be friends. We can't handle that asshole anymore.
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A tremendous congrats to Matt, well deserved and long in coming.
And why do I have this feeling that he’s as sick of Klein as we are.
FITZ AND IMPEACHMENT NOW !!!!
Let’s not be too hard on ex-sports broadcasters and ex-sports writers. Last time I checked, Keith Olbermann was an ex sports guy and as we all know, Keith is a mensch.
OT — this is too funny for words.
http://decider.cf.huffingtonpost.com/
Thank you FDL for finally leaving “blogspot”. Now we in the Middle Kingdom can finally read your whimsical yet deft and penetrating idealogically wise prose. Ave FDL.
Obviously Matt Cooper’s promotion is a miscarriage of injustice.
still … Matt Cooper knew it was Karl Rove who leaked Valerie’s name to him well before the November 2004 election and he kept quiet thus continuing the White House coverup and obstruction of justice. But I bet he is hilarious in person!
Cooper may be more honorable than quite a few of the members of the WH press corps, but there is this issue …
mediamatters.org/items/200602070006
Sorry I couldn’t get the tags right.
peace,
jim
Maybe Jokeline and Scottie could team up and write a childrens book about, sayyy, Pet Goats or something.
OT, but I need more help at the moment than I have in a while. Anybody see C&L lately? Seems Randi Rhodes dropped this in the middle of a conversation with Dobbs about the upcoming nuclear tests in Nevada:
Have I read this correctly? Help!!!
Hmmm. Separated at birth?
Well, Cooper’s stand-up comedy experience should come in handy for this next stage, when BushCo sheds the seventh of its veils.
A reminder:
The Roots Project conference call with Pach is going on right now. Check your emails if you haven’t already for the number to call.
#10
I saw that too, yesterday. Here is an article that mentions it from Stanford Law School.
http://www.law.stanford.edu/pu.....olten.html
“Bolten may be polite but he isn’t by any stretch buttoned down. He’s a big music buff, including country music, and plays guitar. He recites poetry, sometimes at great length. He keeps a copy of the best-selling children’s book Walter the Farting Dog on his office’s coffee table. His wall collection of Bush photos, typical throughout the White House complex, is unique. The pictures focus exclusively on Bush’s hands at key moments in his presidency. Not a single photo of Bush’s face can be found. “Josh is extremely eclectic,” explained Card. “His knowledge base is much, much broader than just policy or budget numbers.”
Freaky.
prostratedragon -
Not a “nuclear test.” Large underground blast using conventional explosives.
Should be interesting (I live in Vegas).
Rumour over at TalkLeft that Fitz met the Plame Grand Jury today. What kind of coincidence would that be?! http://talkleft.com/new_archives/014608.html
So when will Matt start with the “Hu’s on first?” jokes?
I’ll be here all week, don’t forget to tip the waitress.
Yeah sorry, I misread that. Just downloaded the video and I must say, sounds pretty scary–not the bomb so much, though that is indefensible, but the people.
That’s about .7kilotons, correct? What do those big things that were dropped on Saddam’s palaces the first night work out to?
Here’s a link to the Blumenthal article, dated today, regarding the GJ meeting, that was mentioned in the TalkLeft piece:
http://commentisfree.guardian......plank.html
Sid Blumenthal on Scotty:
“McClellan is a flea on the windshield of history. On the podium, he performed his duty as a slow-flying object swatted by a frustrated and flustered press corps. Inexpressive, occasionally inarticulate and displaying a limited vocabulary, his virtue was his unwavering discipline in sticking to his uninformative talking points, fending off pesky reporters, and defending the president and all the president’s men to the last full measure of his devotion. Inside the Bush White House, he was a non-player, a factotum, the instrument of Karl Rove, Bush’s chief political strategist and deputy chief of staff. McClellan played no part in the inner councils of state. He was the blank wall erected in front of the press to obstruct them from seeing what was on the other side. McClellan’s stoic façade was unmatched by a stoic interior. He was a vessel for his masters, did whatever he was told, put out disinformation without objection, and was willing to defend any travesty. He is the ultimate dispensable man…”
http://commentisfree.guardian......plank.html
Josh Bolten collects photos of Bush’s hands.
plus
Josh Bolten quotes poetry.
equals
“Out out, damned spot”
OT — but about a former Time guy who’s now at Slate –
Did you folks see John Dickerson’s article at Slate on Monday about how we should all be contributing to the Libby defense fund because his team is doing such a good job of revealing what really went on, as opposed to Fitz, who’s trying to keep it to a narrow focus. And then there was a link to the Libby Defense Fund website at the bottom.
That’s what made me start to wonder about how the INR memos got dropped on the NYSun doorstep last Saturday complete with spin from Luskin.
I know Dickerson’s column was a piece of commentary, but you sure don’t often see outright shilling for contributions, complete with an easy link to the “contribute here” page. Sorry if this has been mentioned before — I’ve been on deadline on a project.
Gotta disagree with you, Jane. Cooper may be the least-culpable of the reporters involved with the Plame leak, but he still has the ethics of a cockroach. He was asked point blank (by Brian Lamb, iirc) if he felt he had a greater responsibility to a confidential source, or his readers who the source was lying to. Without flinching, Cooper said his first responsibility was to his source. That is inexcusable.
Funny that this comes up on the day when the FBI is trying to seize Jack Anderson’s papers. Can you imagine Anderson ever saying he was more beholden to a lying source than reporting the truth to his readers, especially on something as important as a coverup on the outing of a CIA operative by the WH Deputy Chief of Staff? Hell would freeze first.
Least awful is not good enough. The central problem of beltway journalism is reporters who are more afraid of losing their access than offending a political leader. Putting him in charge of Time’s political reporting taints the coverage of the entire magazine.
Will - that is a VERY funny pic at Talkleft.
Did Blumenthal actually mean Fitzgerald was meeting with the GJ, or just recognizing that Weds/Fri have been the GJ’s “days” so it was more just a segue?
Re: Bolten - so we have kind of a circle? Bush to My Pet Goat to Walter the Farting Dog to Pics of Bush’s hands to —
Sometimes the pieces just don’t really make a recognizable geometric configuration, do they?
Sidney Blumenthal has an interesting take on the Plame affair: that buried in the Fitz filing is the fact that Rove is still under investigation.
Check out his article here:
http://commentisfree.guardian......plank.html
Anderson’s papers and the Smithsonian’s Showtime deal - two stories too buried.
Yes, indeedy.
‘Coop’ has every motivation to harbinger the
gross micro-scatology (e.g. Tom Maguire) of
Libby’s case.(as though he were the target)
It will take the legal/reportorial
skills of ‘Honest Abe’
to ferret out an understandable string
of readable prose, and ‘Coop’will want to
extricate himself as a part of the story.
Hence, the vetting and clarity will be top
drawer.
Libby is the stonewall that separates
him from the real targets. Inasmuch as the
search for gnatshit in the flyspecks speaks
to the megaanxiety of a breech, let us not forget to keep our eyes on the prize.
There once was a lawyer named Scooter,
Who spied a spook’s spouse as a looter
He got caught in a trap
Agreed he would yap
And fingered his boss as the shooter.
BK 21 - out out damned spot?
I think you got the coffee table book (see spot run) confused with the poetry. I think the poetry is more along the lines of, “There once was a hand from Nantucket”
Either that, or his efforts to emulate Bush’s speech patterns as well as hand gestures have given rise the assumption he speaks in haiku.
Mary -
That Smithsonian/Showtime deal stinks. Next up? Bald Eagle McNuggets on the menu at the privatized Golden Arches National Park — formerly the Grand Canyon.
MK 22, I noticed that too. Actually including the link to the defense fund was very odd indeed; otherwise, I would have thought it was just a rhetorical setup for his point about The Public’s Right to Know.
LL 4 - thanks for the link, have passed it on.
Re #4 Can someone tell this computer semi-illiterate if this can be downloaded and copied to a CD? I’d like to put it on the radio (with attribution of course).
I guess you can say Josh Bolten has “hand”.
-GSD
Gotta disagree with this. Cooper chose his source over his country. Had he written a story warning the country that Rove & Libby were planning to blow an intelligence operation as political payback, Plame’s name would still be secret and our country far safer.
By fighting his subpoena all the way to the Supreme he, in effect, obstructed justice and probably threw the election. I will never trust him again.
Robbie #31 - http://decider.cf.huffingtonpost.com/decider.mp3
prostratedragon @ 4:15 pm (#18) - Don’t know about all of them, but the “daisy cutter” bomb, the BLU-82, is 15,000 pounds. This translates, if I’m moving the decimal point correctly, to 0.0075 kilitons.
I believe there’s a newer, larger version of this bomb, but it’s almost certainly not more than 15 tons. I don’t see how they could manage something much larger.
Mary 28-
My first thought about all those photos of Bush’s hands was that anyone fixated on Bush’s hands must also be fixated on how much blood is on them. Hence the quote from Lady MacBeth.
But I like your take better, anyway.
Cujo -
This is gonna be 700 tons. See http://www.klastv.com/Global/s.....v=168XDWn7
I think Blumenthal’s take on the Plame Affair is “lite” in reference to his supposed finding in the filings (i.e. i don’t think that it’s news to many people around here) - but that’s not to say that his narrative isn’t consistent with knowledge of other (unpublished) facts that are yet to come out.
Now, from that, I’d say that i’ve really been struck (especially reading/viewing/listening from the UK where all the US news we get is superficial) by how many different levels this is all playing out on. I think it’s well established that few reporters or bloggers (like Murray Waas or our good hosts at FDL) go into substantive details on the Plame Affair - but that there’s still a lot of Beltway knowledge of what is going on. For whatever reason, it’s not reported in the MSM until the story hits some kind of tipping point.
Cujo359 ,
I can’t remember who I was correcting on this point a couple of weeks ago, But doing the math it came out to 1.5 million pounds of explosives.
RE: John Bolten and his weird photos of Bush’s hands. Too bad Josh isn’t bald–he and Georgie could get some fetishy thing going there as Bush is strangely compelled to rub the heads of bald men.
Mary: Were Bush’s thumbs purple?
–
I like these two sentences from the Matt Cooper’s “War on Wilson” article :
The Administration claims Wilson reported that the former Nigerien official interpreted the overture as an attempt to discuss uranium sales.
“This is in Wilson’s report back to the CIA,” White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer told reporters last week, a few days before he left his post to join the private sector.
SNIP
At this point in time, had Cheney checked with the IAEA, he would have known that Iraq already had 500 tons of uranium. Ari got canned because the VP forged the papers. Fitz knows everything……these guys are doomed.
What did Scott say that got him canned?
BobbyG @ 4:47 pm (#37) I thought he was asking how big conventional bombs can be. If that’s not correct, ignore my previous post ;)
the maximum payload of a C5 gigantic transporter airplane is 100tons of stuff (rice, TNT, tanks, etc) or 0.1Kt. The first 3 atomic bombs were approx 16Kt. The biggest conventional explosive bomb BLU-82B is 0.015Kt. Divine Strake requires 7 C5s to carry the explosives for 700tons or 0.7Kt
Cujo -
Yeah. This isn’t gonna be a “bomb” blast (i.e., a manufactured piece of ordnance) at NTS on June 2nd. Just a huge wad of explosives (1.4 million lbs) put in place to make a big blast for nuke simulation measurement purposes.
What LL at #4 said –
Go have a listen . . it’s great!
“I’m the Decider (Koo-Koo-Kachoo)”
BTW, even though no one asked, here’s an index of all the conventional munitions in the U.S. inventory. I can’t vouch for its authenticity, but there are quite a few bombs listed. The BLU-82 is the largest on that list.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/dumb/
“Divine Strake requires 7 C5s to carry the explosives for 700tons or 0.7Kt”
Our understanding here is that it will be an in situ prior placement. They’re not “dropping bombs.”
I just ate a handful of mystery nuts at my friend’s house. I’ve been told I’m alergic to hazelnuts but wasn’t quite sure what they were.
Two benedryls later, now I know.
Will 38 - “(especially reading/viewing/listening from the UK where all the US news we get is superficial)”
At least you get superficial, here in the States we have to make do with artificial.
Mary - true, but sometimes we still get the GOP talking points filtering through. I think the Washington correspondents for the BBC aren’t the brightest (unlike many/most of their other foreign correspondents).
I don’t want to sound defensive or anything but I was trying to give folk a handle of visualizing comparative sizes of explosions. That Divine Strake thing is way way beyond the size of any possible conventional bomb in that it would take 7 giant airplanes to carry all the stuff.
It would seem that after all these years of underground testing of nuclear weapons, they’d have a pretty good grasp on what making things go BOOM bigtime underground would do. Divine Strake is supposed to be in a granite tunnel…
BobbyG @ 4:58 pm (#47) - Well, then they didn’t drop one on Saddam’s palace, now did they?
Someone described this blast a couple of days ago. It’s going to be done in some hollowed-out granite cave. I remember we were arguing about whether there would be anything visible to cameras.
Anyway, I know it’s different. I got the feeling prostratedragon was trying to compare the power of a conventional weapon to the nuclear bunker-buster.
LL–4, I just sent that to Keith Olbermann. Very funny!
Robbie #31–I just figured out who you are. I listen to your show every Sunday (actually I download it from the web and listen throughout the week). I love the music and your take on the news–it’s great to see the fdl discussions getting out in another medium.
Jane–take care. Hope you’re feeling better.
oh Jane– please take care: this could be serious. They are the ones that look like little bitty acorns. Last night you described being nearly abducted by a nut and today you are itching and swelling from a nut. Be aware of nuts of all types! We need you and love you, very much!!!
Poor Jane. I have a friend who has that reaction to MSG. OTOH, I believe in providence. I think someone is telling you that your next op piece on the Bush Staff changes should be titled: Mystery Nuts.
Bolten, Bush, hands, & poetry = Dylan Thomas.
The hand that signed the paper felled a city;
Five sovereign fingers taxed the breath,
Doubled the globe of dead and halved a country;
These five kings did a king to death.
The mighty hand leads to a sloping shoulder,
The finger joints are cramped with chalk;
A goose’s quill has put an end to murder
That put an end to talk.
The hand that signed the treaty bred a fever,
And famine grew, and locusts came;
Great is the hand the holds dominion over
Man by a scribbled name.
The five kings count the dead but do not soften
The crusted wound nor pat the brow;
A hand rules pity as a hand rules heaven;
Hands have no tears to flow.
OT (again, with the bombs) Actually, this bomb is probably what we should be comparing to. It’s the largest bunker-buster in the inventory, according to the FAS site. The daisy-cutters are meant for other uses. This bomb is 5,000 lbs, 2.5 tons or 0.0025 kilotons.
Talk Left is hearing rumours that Fitz met with the Grand Jury about Rove!!!!
http://talkleft.com/
Mary @ 5:10 pm (#56) (re: Jane) Food allergies suck. I used to work with a guy who had MSG allergies. Couldn’t go to a Chinese restaurant without risking an asthma attack.
Jane, I am glad that the Benadril worked out. Allergic reactions can be scary stuff. You seem to be having an off week here.Good thing there is only a couple days left!Btw, It’is just gorgeous again here today.
Hi folks! Big day, I might actually miss Snottie, I wonder how David Gregory feels about this? I doubt Snottie leaving will have any effect on Helen’s seating assignment with Mr. Brooks Brothers moving in.
I thought you might be interested in a look at this previous article in Rolling Stone in which Matt Taibbi visits Conrad Burns’ birthday party disguised as a lobbyist for a company that wants to drill for oil in the Grand Canyon and the pol response to his idea. I think it is very telling.
I have to say, if I am able to go to Las Vegas in June, I am a bit concerned about what I might be breathing and am concerned also for our fellow firedogs who live there (Hi Bobby). Can the smart folks discuss whether this aspect poses a risk to residents and visitors??
I feel for you Jane.
I’ve eaten some bad nuts myself long the way.
Jane, I just saw your comment about the nuts. If the Benadryl doesn’t REALLY help within an hour, I would not hesitate to visit an ER for some epinephrine. Monitor your swallowing and breathing, and if anything changes, get a ride and go, I mean it. An allergic reaction to nuts can be a bad, bad thing and can progress pretty fast. Please stay online, one of your neighbors is doubtless here.
Private duty nurse reporting, over and out.
If Kirby’s online, she may have more advice.
Pach - that deserves a big groan.
Oh, Pach, that was more than I needed to know….
Snicker,
Timewarp, I let that one go…..
Pach 62 - gunning for punaise’s spot, are you? ;)
Glad the Benadryl worked, Jane. Allergies are no fun.
Pach: if they were the size of hazelnuts, you are in bigtime trouble !
I’ll leave the line about groaning alone.
Sorry. It’s been a very “serious” kind of day. I need a beer.
Pach, don’t forget the BEER NUTS.
OT “What did Scott say that got him canned? “
Good question! Wild speculation would be:
Bolten? The creepy guy with all the hand pictures who tried to make Tony Blair and Prince Abdullah read his farting dog book?
That was awful.*g*
But of course! new thread.
Thanks everyone. I’m okay, I was allergy tested a while ago and told it wasn’t a serious allergy so I wasn’t worried. I did take benedryl and feel much better now.
I got the feeling prostratedragon was trying to compare the power of a conventional weapon to the nuclear bunker-buster.
That was it—sorry, I stepped out for a while. I thought those BLU-82s or whatever were used in 2003 looked fairly large, though still nothing like the nuclear pictures I’ve seen.
Regarding the small nukes, isn’t the bigger research question whether they can be made to penetrate to the bunker level, rather than what they’d do if somehow one got inside a bunker? Destruction given penetration seems to be what exploding stuff inside a granite tube would test.
You realize, of course, that all this talk about bonb testing is a dodge meant to purge all thought of Mr. Good Hands from my (our?) mind.
ccmask–41, At that time wasn’t Cheney still saying he’d never read any such report, didn’t know about any report by Wilson? I can’t keep track.
Sorry to bring the cheez whiz to the cotillion, but I think Cooper is almost as big a tool as Miller, and part of the inside the beltway “journalist” kool kids who have given bushco a free pass since the 2000 presidential race. Why? Because, like his cohorts, he is simply a careerist with no journalistic integrity or ideals.
He forgot that journalism’s duty in a democracy is to afflict the comfortable, to be the eyes and ears for the citizens. So we can make informed decisions. But Cooper, and his colleagues believe the highest ideal is getting the right dinner invitgation or booked on the hot cable show.
“Real time?” If he’d told his story in real time, we’d have known who outed plame in 2003. He was protecting a source not because that source was a whistle blower, but because that source was his “scoop” gravy train. He didn’t have to do any legwork, any real reporting. All he had to do was wait for rove to call with some kind of “inside info” on Kerry’s undeserved medals or richard clarke’s mental illness.
The ONLY reason he came clean was because he was afraid of becoming someone’s fat bald bitch in Allenwood. Maybe he can do some of his standup over at CIA HQ. I’m sure they think this whole episode is hi-freakin-larious.
JANE — Omigosh — please be careful!!! Should you go to the ER???
I’ve got a friend who’s allergic to nuts and that is REALLY, REALLY serious!
Shall be praying — and worrying!!! Please be careful!!!!!
http://news.messages.yahoo.com.....;mid=30318
Yahoo discussion boards have been disabled all day. Yahoo is a mid-America discussion… I feel it is representive of the base for both parties.
I posted a link above of the stopped discussion. Notice the recommendation counts… Which has not been disabled.
This is interesting… I have been working Yahoo discussions for some months trying to turn the tide… There are still con trolls out there… But look at the recommendations.
http://tinyurl.com/a6erq
At one point it was reported that Matt Cooper knew who had leaked Valerie Plame’s name, but refused to report it.
Sorry, but Matt Cooper is not more ethical, nor does he have more integrity than Judith Iscariot Miller.
In addition, what I know of his sense of humour indicates that Cooper has extraordinarily poor judgment as related to his job, the general poublic, or his relationship to power.
Cooper may be a friend of many in DC, he may be a friend of yours, but there’s little to recommend him. And it’s a shame you can still look to him as worthy, or an exemplar of good journalism. Any differences between Cooper and Miller doesn’t erase their similarities.
Don’t get me wrong — Cooper’s written some great pieces along the way. Some of them are even redemptive of his reputation.
But that doesn’t negate the fact that Cooper resisted coming clean with the American people.
He didn’t get it — didn’t understand where he’d gone wrong — until he was forced to by Fitzgerald. He played the DC-journalist spin game to the hilt — until forced to acknowledge the reality.
Jane Hamsher — you’ve followed these issues extremely closely — but that doesn’t mean everyone else hasn’t done the same thing, and just as expertly.
You may find MAtthew Cooper to be a friend and worthy of respect. But the instances of Cooper “humor” that have been disseminated put the lie to the notion Cooper retains good judgment and an ethical posture in relation to his job and to the American people. Funny? I haven’t lost my sense of humour, but we deserve more than patronizing, wrongheaded, and ill-considered yuks from a guy who misleads us — and doesn’t rise much above Judith Miller.
Now, Jame Hamsher — feel free to contact me if ya like.
Matt Cooper may be the best you know, — he may be your only remainning hope, all you have left. But know one thing: you don’t have the perspective, nor the perspicacity, to adequately or accurately assess Matthew Cooper.
You do great work, Jane, but on this, I just feel sorry for you. This country is in worse shape than I ever knew.
Coooper may have successfully restored an effective professional course, repaired the damage he’d done and gone on to do some good work. But he’s no hero. And he’s got plenty to answer for — professionally, and interms of his responsiblity to the public and before the law.
It’s disappointing your’e too close to see clearly what’s plenty plain to the naked eye.
Jane, are you saying you don’t know nuttin’ about nuttin’? Scary - take care!
Pach - I almost read that with a straight face. enjoy that beer.
Sombrero;
The search for redemption is key for Cooper.
Unlike the other harlots, he seems to recognize
his error, thus revealing a conscience.
He hit his bottom and is climbing out, unlike
our freund, JM.
prostratedragon @ 5:31 pm (#75) - Yes, it takes a big can to hold that much high explosive.
The bunker busters will undoubtedly be an engineering challenge. Typically, nuclear weapons explode before they hit the ground. It’s much easier to prevent a bomb from falling apart under those conditions. I can’t imagine how many Gs a bomb hitting a concrete or granite shelter would experience, but it must be quite a problem to keep the thing from disintegrating, let alone keep all the bits where they’re supposed to be and in working order.
Well, like you said, this is a distraction, so I guess I’ll head to the next topic.
Can TIME survive much longer in a period of mass extinction’s?
The Wapoo and NYT sites can still be worth a visit for the odd story but TIME has always been an also-ran. Exceptional writers like Robert Hughes ( The shock of the new) being the exception that proves the rule.
No, I suspect TIME will soon go the way of the Dinosaur Dems and the GOP. Into the ashheap of hirstories discarded lies. So long Matt - it’s been real.
How can anyone be sure that the bomb test won’t actually be nuclear?
Good for Cooper. In another connection, I was just looking over his accounts of his testimony, and the story with which he opens his July 2005 account of what he told the grand jury has always struck me as remarkable, subtle and revealing, especially revealing of the sublimated and complex aggression that is such an important dimension of politics in DC, and presumably politics in general, even though Cooper masks it with his description of his back-and-forth with Bush as funny and good-natured.
It was my first interview with the President, and I expected a simple “Hello” when I walked into the Oval Office last December. Instead, George W. Bush joked, “Cooper! I thought you’d be in jail by now.” The leader of the free world, it seems, had been following my fight against a federal subpoena seeking my testimony in the case of the leaking of the name of a CIA officer. I thought it was funny and good-natured of the President, but the line reminded me that I was, very weirdly, in the Oval Office, out on bond from a prison sentence, awaiting appeal–in large part, for protecting the confidence of someone in the West Wing. “What can I say, Mr. President,” I replied, smiling. “The wheels of justice grind slowly.”
There’s nothing good-natured about that exchange, on either of their parts. It’s also revealing, of course, of part of the Bush administration’s strategy in the face of the investigation - count on the press not to reveal their sources - as Cooper himself hints at here.
SombreroFallout — you’re just another bullshit artist unafraid to throw around blind accusations you can’t substantiate under the cover of anonymity.
If you’ve got proof, let’s hear it. If not, go libel people on someone else’s site.
JWR and LL: Thanks. Got it.
Jeff — that is an awfully good insight. It’s right up there with Digby’s assessment of what Bush was really saying when he said he didn’t think we’d ever know who the leakers were because the press was so good at keeping their sources.
Both sound like veiled threats.
Jane - Thanks. I probably got the idea on interpreting Bush’s comment about jail from Digby or some echo of that interpretation of Bush’s earlier statement. Bush’s comment to Cooper may be part veiled threat, but it’s also just plain old observation in an aggressive mode (which is slightly different). But Cooper gives as well as he gets too, not only with his comment about the wheels of justice — which, it’s worth noting, his former colleague John Dickerson found compelling enough to reuse to frame his own, truly outstanding two-part account of his own role in the whole matter — but also in laconically observing that the leader of the free world was up on the details of his case, thereby implying that Bush took the case really quite seriously, more seriously than you might imagine.
Semanticleo:
Agreed.
And I even respect that about him.
But the lack of acknowledgment, the continued disingenuousness, the willingness to repeat the same mistakes and play the same game — indicates Cooper hasn’t learned the most critical or the most basic lessons.
I dont’ think he’s able to. And his choices don’t speak well of the ethics or integrity his ‘friends’ claim he possesses.
I’ve picked up the paper and read his work and said, “Great work! Good for him.” And I’ve picked up the paper and found concrete evidence that Cooper doesn’t rise above J Iscariot Miller or any of the other self-regarding hacks in DC. He knew who leaked Plame’s name all along. — and committed the same error Miller did.
The example of ‘humor’ showed incredibly poor judgment. But worse, it was a real glimpse of someone who doesn’t comprehend just how out-of-whack and damaging his attitude, posture, and choices are, relative to power, his colleagues, and the general public. It wasn’t funny — it was repugnant. It threw into sharp relief the source of much of the damage the press inflicts on itself, the American people, the country, and on the body politic.
That smug, patronizing, and dysfunctionally amoral attitude towards outsiders and to the country, cannot be discounted or dismissed.
Do I exaggerate? NO. Cooper may be well-liked. But that’s a side-issue. It may be because saving a little bit of face by not being a TOTAL buffoon in the Fitzgerald run-in is something all his journalist pals can vicariously adopt as their own saving grace.
I say having your own gaggle of enablers cannot undo the fact that Cooper comitted some of the same mistakes as Miller and many others. They say he’s funny — which is beside the issue. He’s well-liked — also not the issue. Very telling. What CAN they say? Not much. Even when they go so far as to assert that Cooper is ethical, has integrity, they’re contradicted by the public record, and by Cooper’s own statements and writings. What the open-minded and non-judgmental amongst us had long suspected, but didn’t assume, was eventually borne out as conclusive evidence became available.
Cooper could have been forthcoming. He could have done his job. Instead, he wrongly protected a source that had (likely) committed a crime. The country would have been better served if he’d done his job — instead of twisting his obligations before the lw to suit his own interests.
Smug, patronizing, misguided, lacking any perspective, or any accurate take on the principles and event sthat landed him adn this country into their respective fixes.
I’m not sorry about saying all of this. Why should I be? Cooper’s not sorry. He’s just learned to play the same game, more carefully. At worst, I’m right — but Cooper & Co. are still the same ilk.
re post 10:
No, silly — he writes LOVE and HATE on them knuckles.
*/Leaning, leaning, leaning on the everlasting arm… /*
On the contrary, Rook’s Rant — this shows that even Jane is fallible.
Cooper was happy to play the Rove-Miller game then, only gave it up because he had to, and still hadn’t regained his senses long after his deep draughts of Insider-brand Smug Kool-Aid.
Has he learned a lesson? Probably. But he testified only when forced; didn’t reveal that he knew he was publishing lies for his readers’ consumption; and has demonstrated extroardinary obtuseness and lack of judgment regarding what he “knows” versus what the public “knows.” It’s an open question who’s better off, or better informed.
Jane’s got plenty to keep track of, and can’t be expected to keep a clear eye on Cooper too. Everyone needs somebody to believe in…
Cooper doesn’t come off looking better through Jane’s endorsement — but rather the inverse holds true. It’s too bad, but not every affirmation rides on whether one is funny or well-liked. The ethical and integrity component of that endorsement doesn’t hold water enough to merit debate.
Re #87 — Jane —
Granted, I could have expressed the thought better.
However, the pith of my post is public knowledge, substantiated by (the sum of) every media account of Cooper’s actions published to date. I’m not obligated to spend three days tracking down citations for a series of events that everyone here is aware of, and aware of in detail.
It IS true that Cooper had to be forced to testify — and didn’t get why he was obligated to do so.
Did he publish some good, even redemptive articles? Sure, Jane, he did, and I cheered when I read them.
Yet he participated in same the disingenuous defense of dishonest sources, and did not understand how much damage that did to journalism, to his credibility, and to the country.
He protected his conduit to power and disinformation with all his might and main — until Fitzgerald forced him to come clean.
It was plenty obvious that he’d eventually testify — but equally obvious that it would require the actual threat of jail time. The indication is that Matthew Cooper may understand the nature of power, but not so much the problematic nature of the abuse of power. Include journalists in that equation.
His erroneous posture regarding journalists’ obligation under the law may be shared by many, but it did much damage to public discourse and the public’s ability to get on with it.
He also knowingly published false information about the Plame leak story, including who the leaker was as I recall, at a critical time in our country’s history. He knew plenty at a critical time — (above and beyond his resistance to Fitzgerald), and said nothing.
That’s on the record and in the public domain. It’s been substantiated by reputable journalists and is verified in legal documents from the Plame investigation.
Again, your’e not the only one to follow the these matters in great detail. So thanks for the warrantless intimidation re substantiating what I wrote — but no thanks. We’re all on very solid ground here. (Unless you can’t believe what you read in the paper.)
So we know that Matthew Cooper is adept at negotiation the halls of power. We know he can navigate choppy waters in the workplace, and steer his career into tranquil and safe harbor.
Though I saw at least one article that I thought must have taken some courage, maybe that’s telling as well.
The difference between a leak that is an abuse of power, conducted by criminal and/or abusive administration, is fundamentally different from a leak provided by a whistleblower, who’d be subject to abuse of power.
Cooper, Miller, and every other DC journalist who dissemble about that distinction did so right out in the open. Again, public record. That was much of the issue, and Cooper, Ifill, etc., cannot possibly us not to notice. In fact, it was joe public that had to instruct the media on that key point.
So yes, Jane — there’s a balance to be struck. But please — strive for that.
Folks eager to reward Cooper, w/o grappling w/some critical dynamics at work here, keep substituting his personal attibutes for his on-the-job decisions and methods. I substantiate that by citing you.
Matthew Cooper “is funny” — but let’s not talk about the actual chan of events.
The humor I’d seen was pretty damn repugnant. Also public record. Sorry — it’s just the way it is. I don’t think he was terribly conscious or cognizant of what that posture indicated.
Jane — thanks for all your great work. I’m a big fan, and am much impressed. Don’t take one disagreement and apply it acrosss the board.
Richard D. Felsing, Esq.
p.s. — Thanks for the ad hominem attack… but no thanks. You’re better than that. And you are unlikely to assume about me what you cannot know.