
Glenn Greenwald has a post up about the Horowitzian effort to block blogger Juan Cole from receiving an offer to teach at the Yale Center for International and Area Studies and in the Yale History Department. It’s no surprise; it is during college that many begin to develop their capacity for critical thinking, something the right can do without thank you very much so silencing those who refuse to sip delicately from their Kool-aid snifters becomes paramount. This time they’ve placed the hit piece in the New York Sun, which is doing double duty running Barbara Comstock’s faxes in the Libby case. In order to make their argument the authors engage in the incredibly intellectually dishonest tactic of equating anything other than fatuous devotion to the policies of a nation, Israel, with anti-Semitism. The article concludes:
Yale rightfully prides itself on the devotion of its graduates to public service. Why would Yale ever want to hire a professor best known for disparaging the participation of prominent American Jews in government? Mr. Cole has made himself a disgrace. Why would Yale want to make his disgrace its own?
Glenn does a nice job of exploring how shallow and disingenuous the whole piece is. But I myself had a good chuckle when I saw to whom this particular smear job had been farmed out: Yale student Eliana Johnson, daughter of Scott "Big Trunk" Johnson of Powerline, whom Scott refers to as "The Little Trunk." (Wonder if they’ve taken their pledge at the father/daughter purity ball?)
I bitch about this a lot so don’t expect me to pass up a golden opportunity. This is exactly the kind of second-generation junk thinking being produced on the right by people like Ben Domenech, Jonah Goldberg and George W. Bush — people who vault into to highly paid, influential positions despite a complete and utter lack of talent or skill purely because of who their parents are and their willingness to say just about anything. Badly. A group who have tragically confused the wingnut welfare system for some kind of meritocracy, who think their megaphone comes as the result of skill and don’t acknowledge that both privilege and think tank underwriting are largely responsible for the opportunity to appear on the stage in the first place.
I always like the articles these pissy rich kids write about the welfare state and how it doesn’t encourage people to refine themselves and their ideas by engaging in competition. One need look no further than this article and those by people like Herbert Spencer scholar Jonah Goldberg (oh and let us not forget his work on Upton Sinclair) to see the utter hypocricy involved in this argument by those who are usually making it: nobody would pay for their crap if it wasn’t being underwritten by someone with a political agenda, and there is no need for their work to rise to anything above sub-mediocrity in order to keep getting subsidized.
This childish world view, unsullied by any contact with people from other cultures or life experience, scornful and elitist and promoted beyond anything it would earn as a result of its own merits, exists not only on the page — it is running the country and playing Army Men with the Middle East. No doubt they resent it mightily when Professor Cole shows up to puncture their delusional bubbles and deliver, in the words of Wolcott, a "righteous punk smackdown." Once again they send the second-rate and intellectually shiftless to defend the fort.
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Fitzzzz again! Yay Professor Cole!
I am very happy for Juan. I had the good fortune to make acquintance with him and to be able to do a video interview with him concerning a range of topics including his harassment at the hands of the neocons.
If you are interested, the interview is here:
http://RealityBasedTV.com
Of course, it would have been nice if he were going to Harvard instead (school rivalry dies hard) :-)
I am going to have to let the steam out of my ears before commenting further…….
Ben Domenech, Jonah Goldberg and George W. Bush
Don’t forget Jon Podhoretz and William Kristol.
The wingnut-welfare right loves to blather about ‘meritocracy’ and ‘competition’ and how they are the winners of some epic struggle for excellence, yet is riven through with nepostic mediocrities, starting with the Chimp in the White House.
… and Tucker Carlson!
… and Liz Cheney! …now planning regime change in Iran from inside the State Department with a budget request of $85m.
This childish world view, unsullied by any contact with people from other cultures or life experience, scornful and elitist and promoted beyond anything it would earn as a result of its own merits, exists not only on the page — it is running the country and playing Army Men with the Middle East.
You are the absolute best, Jane.
Eliana Johnson doubtlessly supports the Endless War on Terror, especially its current manifestation in Iraq. She needs to really really support it ! check out http://goarmy.com
As it looks now, she’s just another chickenhawklette…
Y’know, once upon a time at Yale they had DecaDances (of course that was back when you only had to be 18 to drink, but I digress). How could they send their daughter to such a place? All the Yalie’s I knew were pornicatin’, fornicatin’ pagan worshipers. Good times, good times.
And Dan Abrams
The Israel Political Untouchability Industrial Complex has all but destroyed meaningful Middle East policy debate in this country.
I think Juan Cole has been at the forefront in fighting misguided lefty (and other?) efforts to blacklist Jewish and Israeli scholars from organizations and conferences and collaborations.
So apparently Scottie McMuffin is quiting? Sure made his mind up fast- was just the other day he was telling the press corp that he intended to be a bitter ender- and die in the fuehrer’s bunker- Now he can’t wait ta get back ta Texas and spend more time with his family- if he has a family.
Rover- on the other hand- has had his nuts cut off- and Raw Story thinks he’s on the short list for spring indictments. I am happy that God is drawing out the length of the presidential team’s public executions so that we can savor them.
And Chris Wallace. And John Siegenthaler.
And Cokie Roberts. And Anderson Cooper……
I think they take the title of his blog, “INFORMED comment,” as a dig at them.
“If all the girls who attended the Yale prom were laid end to end, I wouldn’t be a bit surprised.” –Dorothy Parker
as Lenny Bruce said “You can’t have real corruption until the fathers pass it on to the sons.”
Ahem did you forget Dougie Feith? And as I nearly got EPU’d
as the eyeraqis stand up we’ll stand down Somebody warn angie not to have any liquids in her mouth when she clicks the link.
The problem is that these little bitches think that they can step outside their Habitrail of privilege and lob rhetorical grenades at people who are much, much smarter and infinitely more accomplished than themselves. “Little Trunk” getting her panties in a twist because her alma mater is honoring a first-rate thinker and writer like Juan Cole? Spare me. That’s like Jonah Goldberg trying to shout down Stephen Hawking.
Jane, thank you for posting this — if cole goes to yale i’ll start sending them money again, not that i’m wealthy, but if he doesn’t get the appointment we can blame folks like joe lieberman & john kerry, besides bush, for keeping him out
Scottie McMuffin is quitting cause he has no credibility. He has no credibility on account of he says everything Clusterfuck says over and over again.
The solution- bring someone NEW in to say what Clusterfuck says OVER and OVER and OVER again. HE’LL have credibility.
Meanwhile- what about Clusterfuck himself? Does HE have any credibility?
Eventually it will occur to the White House that as long as Clusterfuck has no credibility- the idiot repeating everything he say will have no credibility either- they might as well have kept McMuffin.
Well, now rockets are being fired at the U.S. Embassy in Kabul.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01793.html
Lovely.
Sheesh.
I posted this b4, but is seems so apt here. From the ThinkProgress “where are they now†Doug Feith (now what was it that Franks and Wilkerson et al called him?) has a gig as co-chair of a Harvard project to write an academic text on fighting terrorism.
http://thinkprogress.org/the-a…..-they-now/
Where He Is Now: Feith voluntarily resigned from the Defense Department shortly after Bush’s reelection. He is co-chairman of a project at Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government to write an academic book on how to fight terrorism.
I wonder what the odds are that it will be titled: “Stay the Course and Keep the Feith†???
Another kinda related but mostly OT , from TPM’s Muckraker :
http://syndication.nationaljou…..uliani.bmp
Giuliani doing fundraising for Ralph Reed.
If they just get all of Bernie’s girls to chip in $10.00, Ralph’s set (and can get himself some nice new Noconas while he’s at it http://www.cowboyboots.com/images/nocona.jpg)
OT but from below thread:
Will Rove keep his clearance? Scotty fills us in before he goes:
http://www.first-draft.com//mo…..p;sid=5801
Q He’ll maintain his security clearance, and everything like that?
MR. McCLELLAN: Oh, absolutely, yes
These people disgust me to a degree I can’t express. Trying to mount a public campaign to block Yale from issuing tenure to Juan Cole? Just revolting. Hard to believe something so predictable, so typical of these creeps and the way they operate — and so mundane –, still has the power to shock me.
I once guest-posted on Informed Comment. Wonder if that makes me an anti-Semite-by-association.
Disgusting.
will Wonkette weigh in on Trunkette?
So Scotty McClueless is in need of a job. If he can’t get hired as the new right winger blogger at WaPo, or find some other right wing “journalism” gig, maybe he will write his memoirs and tell us what he really thinks about some of those matters that are a subject of “an ongoing investigation.” Of course, I’m only engaging in “wild speculation”…
I do hope Prof. Cole gets the gig!
Eliana Johnson’s statement ” Why would Yale ever want to hire a professor best known for disparaging the participation of prominent American Jews in government?” is absurdly misleading. Cole has worked with many prominent Jews here and abroad, is highly respected by many Israeli scholars, and has been praised for his comments dispagaging blacklists or boycotts of Israeli intellectuals and academics.
Jane and FDL should be commended for coming to Cole’s aid so soon and so aggressively.
people close to the President said focusing on the fine points of policy was not a good use of Rove’s mind, time or expertise. “Karl could be called the janitor and his role with the President would not change,†said a Bush friend. Bolten allies said he wants clear lines of authority and accountability, and said the announcement showed his assertiveness, since Card had deferred to Rove on many matters that are traditionally the purview of the Chief of Staff
Time
Anybody who is willing to put their record up against Juan Cole’s hasn’t taken a very good look at his record. On the other hand, bringing the issue of the influence of Israel on US foreign policy further out into the open is a good, if painful, thing. It is a debate that we need to have. Too bad there are so few people who are willing to actually debate these issues instead of tossing character-bombs from the ramparts of nepotism. I’ve got to get back to demonstrating weakness and offering some aid and comfort. see ya.
peace,
jim
Sharkbabe – Whatever you think of the Israel Lobby in this country, the Middle East’s problems transcend any American policy, whether pro or not pro Israel. To think that our policies could miraculously solve the myriad issues that make the Mid East dysfunctional if they were “anti” Israel. Israel is just one piece of a very complicated puzzle, with many bad actors (perhaps only bad actors), not just one. There is one consistent theme to Mid East politics though – the Palestinians have been and are everyone’s (and that includes the Arab states as well as Iran) bastard step child/pawn.
At the end of the day, America’s Mid East policies aren’t based on being pro-Israel (Israelis are America’s Palestinians in this case – a sympathetic canard), they are based on what is perceived as being pro American, and that transcends repug or democratic lines, and that is asserting American influence in the region to protect real or perceived American interests, whether that is the flow of oil or the bogeyman of terrorism.
mfi – it may not be what you had in mind, but I have a comment awaiting moderation (too many links I think) with a link to the info on Feith’s co-chair with the Harvard project, writing an acadmenic book on fighting terrorism. I think we should be in search of titles for them, as a public service effort.
Iraq Is Not Iran (foreward by Dr. Rice)?
Real Neocons Don’t Eat Quiche (foreward by Emeril)?
Pharmaceuticals Save the World: How Prozac & Zoloft Won the War on Terror (underwriting provided by the Pharmaceutical Lobby of America and euphemistically referred to by students as PLA v. PLO)?
. . .
“I always like the articles these pissy rich kids write about the welfare state and how it doesn’t encourage people to refine themselves and their ideas by engaging in competition.”
Yeah. My rant on an aspect of the topic recently:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sun…..html?Gladd
The anti-intellectualism of the Right is just breathtaking. Professor Cole is one of the best sources around for intelligent, in-depth commentary on the Middle East. If conservatism had many winning policy ideas (or any, really) they wouldn’t need to fight for a place in academia. It’s because the thinking of conservative think tanks and the Republican party is so detached from reality that they get little credence within academia. Horowitz and his ilk can’t accept their dearth of ideas or values, so they deride those who have those qualities in spades.
I don’t know if it’s been stated here earlier today, but regardless of what his job decription is (janitor or take your pick), if Rove no longer has his security clearance, could that not be the surest sign something substantive has happened regarding Fitzgerald? Wonder if Rove still has it.
Bobbyg – So true. That is why they need institutionalized cronyism (i.e. affirmative action).
Muzzy,
According to Holden at First Draft, Rove has maintained his security clearance. The press gaggle had a question from Podesta confirming it.
http://tinyurl.com/a6erq
Help impeach – And help pass this link around ;)
#33
Rove doesn’t need a clearance to get into dirty-tricks mode. His accomplices will provide all the dirt he needs.
Whoops! Here’s the link to Holden’s place.
First Draft
Damn fingers…
A Quiet Voice in an Age of High-Decibel Television
Caption: Brit Hume is no partisan brawler in the mold of some of Fox’s high-decibel hosts. (Michael Williamson/Post)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01943.html
OT– go check out the new video with Russ from the PPF– titled W. Awesome!
http://www.progressivepatriotsfund.com/
The Sun has been bundling with Times deliveries for a few weeks. I’ve got a theory that Someone gave them $$ so they could buy thir way into the Times’ readership (at least on the Upper West Side of NYC) to get their party line out… anyone know the story? I admit to not paying attention to newspaper gossip lately. Anyway, the writing is pretty amateurish as well as predictably “off the fax.” That is all.
I suppose that the status of Rove’s security clearance is classified information? If so- then if Rove lost it- he wouldn’t be eligible to discover that he no longer has it.
I’ve often wondered why such anti-intellectuals/Luddites send their children to such card carrying elite, east coast liberal schools.
I realize our projects runneth over, but one of the more egregious Orwellian aspects of repug spin is its anti-intellectualism. Has anyone ever asked an O’Rielly or Malkin what they think of the fact that an east coast liberal institution like Yale produced as a great a mind, as a great a leader, as Chimpy.
(Note to Katymine – that be sarcasm. I wish I had a flag emoticon)
The Sun has been bundling with Times deliveries for a few weeks. I’ve got a theory that Someone gave them $$ so they could buy thir way into the Times’ readership (at least on the Upper West Side of NYC)
Now that’s wasted money. Upper East side, maybe, but Westside? Nah.
Yale undergrads are about 1/3 Jewish and I think similar holds for the faculty. Most of the other people there have learned to keep their mouths shut whenever the topic of Israel or Judism comes up and let the various factions tear into each other.
There should be some interesting sparks flying.
dead last — that’s a good one. I’m gonna use that.
Dont you love how the “Academic freedom” folks on the right are so disingenuous? Basically what they mean is “the only people who should be teaching at our universities and colleges are right wing zealots.”
I am so tired of the “anyone who questions anything Israel does on the world stage is an antisemite” card. It’s an excuse used by stupid, lazy people who can’t rebut the arguments they oppose- so much easier to just label the person anti-jewish. And don’t even get me started on the fucked up logic of that strategy (as though Jews are a monolithic group and as though Israel as a nation can be conflated with jews worldwide as though they are one and the same). Not.
Of course, while the brains become generationally diluted, the evil is compounded rather than watered down. The result is: we get the “No Child Left Behind†education disaster from a socially promoted President. Talk about reaction formation!
sláinte
c.l.
40
Oh my.
When EPU finds that sarcasm emoticom, he needs to lend it to Kurtz. I still remember Brit’s (ex-liberal outsider?????????) head exploding over Kristol’s comment that Feingold had made a good political move.
As usual the kool-aid crowd crows loudest when rational, clarity of thought raises her beautiful head.
I personally know Prof. Cole. A speaker of truth to power… He doesn’t have an anti-semitic bone in his body.
Yale would be lucky to have him.
OT, somebody over at Rachel Maddow’s blog said we’re living in a decidership.
(oops, dropped the quote to which I was referring) should have read:
“. . . second-generation junk thinking being produced on the right by people like Ben Domenech, Jonah Goldberg and George W. Bush . . .”
Of course, while the brains become generationally diluted, the evil is compounded rather than watered down. The result is: we get the “no child left behind†education disaster from a socially promoted President. Talk about reaction formation!
sláinte
cl
“I bitch about this a lot so don’t expect me to pass up a golden opportunity. This is exactly the kind of second-generation junk thinking being produced on the right by people like Ben Domenech, Jonah Goldberg and George W. Bush — people who vault into to highly paid, influential positions despite a complete and utter lack of talent or skill purely because of who their parents are and their willingness to say just about anything.”
“Kennedy’s” Anyone.
I don’t know all the facts about this, but if Yale buckles under to this kind of incursion into academic freedom, then I will forthwith cross Yale off our son’s shortlist of possible colleges to apply to next year. Promise.
wait a minute. how can we be sure that this Juan fellow is in the country legally?
Oh, BTW, my son is Jewish though I am not.
“we’re living in a decidership”
A sinking Decidership.
It’s too bad that the pernicious anti-intellectualism of the day is such that commenter Davis X. Machina’s jocular suggestion has no chance of being correct: Yale’s gain would be Michigan’s loss were the offer to Prof. Cole made and accepted. The gnawing of these rodents everywhere one turns shows how much work needs to be done to get this society back on track, beyond the necessary change in administrations.
The market held yesterday’s gains in the face of rising oil prices- Wow! Don’t know if these people are clever or stupid- but it looks as if the Bulls are movin.
rwcole– #13
Li’l Scotty McDumpling does indeed have a family. His mother, Carolyn Keeton Strayhorn, Texas state comptroller, is running for governor. (She did what Joe Blubberman threatens to do and is running as an Independent, presumably to distance herself from Republican Rick Perry, the current gov running for re-election.) Now that Scotty’s out of work, I’ll bet he lands a job with Mom’s campaign.
Mary @ 30. Then there’s “Me Cowboy You Injuns” no prizes for guessing the author :-)
G’night folks
*poof*
rwcole #59:
This cycle of Federal Reserve interest rate increases coming to close. Increase in oil prices brought that close to about noon yesterday. So that dominates market right now.
Yale? Standards? Given that the Decider is an alum, it is most certainly a question of standards.
But Juan may hold his nose and take the post anyway.
freeping these polls is kinda dumb but . . .
http://news.aol.com/dailypulse…..3009990001
just be honest: ok?
“. . . nobody would pay for their crap if it wasn’t being underwritten by someone with a political agenda, and there is no need for their work to rise to anything above sub-mediocrity in order to keep getting subsidized.”
Amen, Jane. These pathetic kids actually believe that they’re getting work because they have talent. Another right-wing freeloader is Kate Roiphe, daughter of author Ann Roiphe, who writes humorless anti-feminist diatribes–Slate magazine used her to attack Maureen Dowd’s latest book.
EPU @ 43:
An Ivy League (or similar) degree carries a smidgen more weight with a employer than, say, Bob Jones University, no?
How else should those with marginal abilities make their way without learning the finer points of padding the resume early?
Since it’s all ‘academic’ anyway, better a swanky sheepskin than a sweaty one…And let’s not get started on the rich Freudian implications of ‘…I spent 31K on tuition for you, you little bastard!…Toe the line or you’ll be swabbing out truck stop showers on the night shift…Be thankful your grandpapa Prescott has some pull with the Board of Regents’
;>)
I’m getting a little tired of any criticism of neocons being characterized as antiSemitism. I have no idea whether they are Jews or not, but megalomania is stupid, no matter the religion of who is suffering from it. Frankly, the charges of antiSemitism are a pretty transparent attempt at distraction.
Dark Black – True nuf. But, when you are getting your job through
affirmative cronyismthe university pedigree doesn’t matter. I would think that for ideological (if not grand kid) purity, they would be running to BJU (I had fun typing that by the way).“Kennedy’s†Anyone.
Yawn. That bogeyman doesn’t produces shudders of fear around here.
-GSD
Goddamn typing skills. But I do love the strike out feature. CRONYISM should not be
struck out.I would suggest that Scull and Bones has something to do with the presence of wingnut children at Yale. That society has deeply penetrated the upper echelons of corporate and governmental power.
Members are very secretive, vow to do what each other asks of them,no questions asked, perform bizarre pagan rites, and Prescott Bush and fellow society members stole the bones of Geronimo in the early years of the last century.
this is beginning to look like a political campaign to intimidate academics and universities who are critical of some of bush’s war and foreign policy “initiatives”.
in both cases
“anti-semitism” seems to be the derogative of choice.
first,
profs mersheim and walt,
writing on the negative influence of aipac (american-israeli political action committee) on american policy
and now,
juan coles,
a middle east scholar with a weblog who does not wave pompoms for all of bush’s war and foreign policy activities.
motives:
who knows,
but how about
intimidating universities so they will be hesitant to hire critics or potential critics of bush “fopol” (foreign policy)?
these and other right wing republican activities remind me of the power-acquiring and holding tactics of the national socialist democratic workers’ party in germany in the 1920’s and 30’s.
Prof. Cole is an example of the potential of American academe to meet high standards for both scholarship and for informing public debate. Just to note three aspects of his work: his research on the history of the Baha’i movement, his project to translate documents of western political thought into Arabic (which probably has greater potential to further democracy in Arabic countries than any military action), and the daily summaries of Arabic language source material in his blog. If the opposition to Cole were intellectually honest, they would invest a like amount of energy in competing scholarly projects; instead, they answer Cole with character assasination, bellicosity, and blissful ignorance of authentic sources.
Okay.
So you know how everyone thinks about Rove as being kinda a beige slug? And how everyone psychoanalizes his “devotion” to Bush because of it.
The whole envy of the good looking rich kid by the devious fat kid who could never succeeded without being willing to be an evil minion?
Tonight I was watching the BBC World Report. One of their stories was about Rove, of course. They showed a photo of Rove standing at the shoulder of Bush41 when he was in power. So about 20 – 25 years ago.
Did I see what I expected to see? A younger version of the beige slug.
No! The younger Rove was slim with lots of straight blond hair. Kinda cute (I gag as I write this) if you didn’t know who it was.
It puts an entirely new spin on things for me. As in it made me rethink what exactly Rove might have done to have entered the inner circle of power, if you know what I mean.
I wanted to share this with you and tried to find the image on Google, but I have had no luck.
Does anyone have a copy of this picture from a book on Bush senior? Or know where to find it?
I have to say too, that searching through the Google image files for Rove was quite a laugh. On just about every page was a copy of Dood Abides’ (IIRC) image of Rove doing the perp walk! But none of the images were older than about 6 years, at most.
Anyone else see that report?
I said way back–with the Whitehouse, Congress and the Supreme court wrapped up as well as much of the media–that leaves the remainder of the judiciary and academia to be cowed, browbeaten and then coopted.
-GSD
What’s surprising about the Powerline, Horowitz et al is their instinct for political survival: they have none. They are determined to be become pariahs. They are utterly oblivious to the fact the public mood has turned against the counsel of imbeciles and moral retards, on account of these pseudo-intellectual buffoons have been wrong about, well, everything.
Yes, where does the New Right get off criticizing ‘elitists’ when their ranks are so full of them?
new thread. good news for a change.
EPU:
‘But, when you are getting your job through affirmative cronyism the university pedigree doesn’t matter.’
It does when one is trying to confer a sense of legitimacy on one’s turgid mental spew to be splattered upon the marks with their noses pressed up against the viewscreen.
Not only can they use a respected institution’s reputation to bolster their anemic intellectual output, but they can undermine said institutions value structures in an antithetical fashion at the same time…win/win for the empire of termites.
Maybe the brouhaha over Cole’s appointment has a positive side after all. It will bring to the harsh light of day the bigoted view that any criticism of Israel and its policies amounts to anti-Semitism. In this view no criticism can be based on valid principles or facts, only bigotry.
Oddly enough this kind of bigotism reveals the unconscious anti-Semitism on the part of the accuser that goes like this: “If somebody doesn’t agree with me it must be because I am Jewish. It can’t be for any valid reason.”
Doesn’t that in itself betray an unconscious but present anti-Semitic outlook? To me it does.
BTW, DR. Freud has a word for the kind of psychological mechanism I am talking about: he called in “projection.” This is where you project on to the other person your own feeling/attitude.
There are a lot of topics that one could write about. Mr. Cole chose to question whether Jews were loyal to America because some supported the war in Iraq. (This, of course, overlooks the fact that other Jews, such as Russ Feingold, are leading the movement against the war in Iraq…)
When I was in college (oh so many years ago), a nasty old jackass named Shockley wanted to lecture around the country on the inherent intellectual inferiority of black people. I suppose “academic freedom” would support his right to investigate this and speak about it, but I just don’t think a major, well run university would see that in its mission statement, or would want to promote it. Same, for me, for Mr. Cole.
Ahh. Another Hamsher beatdown. I can just envision what she would have done if she had been one of the “tech hoods” who delivered the beatdown to the printer/fax machine in Office Space.
Thank you Jane, may you always whup ass in health.
Cole was a former professor of mine at Michigan and while he might be “left wing” as many there are, he did a great job in lecture of taking both sides. Our classroom looked like half of it was the UN General Assembly and the other half a CPAC convention, and he handled Q & A sessions in an actual fair and balanced way. Part of me hopes the Right’s efforts to block him from Yale will keep such a good professor at Michigan, but Michigan tends to lose the greats.
Nicely put. It really is astounding how “welfare” is bad, but nepotism and cronyism are sacrosanct. In many institutions, promoting a culture of meritocracy is a revolutionary idea…
Let’s not forget Jonah Goldberg’s most most outlandish fabrication, the claim that the Great Plains used to be a giant forest until the Native Americans burned it down. This claim earned him Brad DeLong’s Stupidest Man Alive award.
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/…..n_a_1.html
“Mr. Cole chose to question whether Jews were loyal to America because some supported the war in Iraq.”
Yeah, right. Then you won’t have any trouble providing a cite.
Re Mearsheimer Walt Paper: The Israel “Lobby” The entire text of the paper can be downloaded at http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/r…../RWP06-011 The paper is explosive.It is a must read for all who care about the direction American foreign policy has taken. Expect fireworks from normally reliable sources in the near future. “Oldstylepatriot”
Juan Cole is a poster boy for premature blog triumphalism. How would anyone have a clue about the supreme crime without professor Cole?
Attack him at your peril knaves and varlets!
And on the subject of corrupt crony capitalism, Koufax winner Digby had a zinger about one of Ari Fleshette’s relatives going to occupied Iraq in order to lecture the Baathist socialist savages about ethical free enterprise.
Irony seems to be born dead with these guys.
Makes me all nostalgic for some reason…”Boy, the way Glen Miller played. Songs that made the Hit Parade. Guys like us, we had it made. Those were the days! Didn’t need no welfare state. Everybody pulled his weight Gee, our old LaSalle (a car) ran great. Those were the days! And you knew where you were then! Girls were girls and men were men. Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again. People seemed to be content. Fifty dollars paid the rent. Freaks were in a circus tent. Those were the days! Take a little Sunday spin, go to watch the Dodgers win. Have yourself a dandy day that cost you under a fin. Hair was short and skirts were long. Kate Smith really sold a song. I don’t know just what went wrong! Those Were the Days!”
Should we assume then that Professor Cole is above criticism by virtue of being liberal? Perhaps the writer didn’t read all Mr Greenwald had to say on the subject.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch…
This rant is a perfect example of style over substance. Lots of passion, all the right buzzwords, appeals to emotion, and little factual content. Assumptions are rampant, the generalizations are gross, and insults issued. I hope this was cathartic, because it could fulfill no other useful purpose. On the other hand this just reinforces the conservative view that liberals consider emotion as reality. If that’s OK for you, then fine, but most of the world is too busy dealing with day to day life to see this as worth taking to heart.
Picture this – Fitz looking suave and slick as Sean Connery is relaxing with the lovely Jane on board the ocean liner HMS Tyranic. The waiters enter…a Mr Wint and a Mr Kidd!
Fitz recognizes them at once and sets one on fire while pulling the others ones arms up between his legs and sending him overboard with a bomb!
Diamond post’s are forever Jane.
shooter 242
Please explain to me how blocking Juan Cole from a position because they disagree with his views is the same as criticizing him.
ie “the Horowitzian effort to block blogger Juan Cole from receiving an offer to teach at the Yale Center for International and Area Studies and in the Yale History Department.”
vs
“that Professor Cole is above criticism by virtue of being liberal
I presume you’re familiar with the term “hyperbole”? As far as I know, noone has tied Cole up, or locked him in his office, or physically barred him entry from Yale. In this case Ms. Hamsher has equated criticism of Cole to effectively “barring” him from consideration of the position because of the controversy (criticism) surrounding his politics. Such overwrought and misleading commentary is a good example of “hyperbole”.
Juan Cole doesn’t deserve to be teaching at a kindergarten, let alone Yale.
His work is so sloppy, and so dishonest at times, that it’s a wonder almost everyone here considers him some great scholar.
His problem is that while he raises important points, he’s about as fair and balanced as Fox News. Not only that, but he sometimes simply makes things up.
One of his more famous fabrications is when he claimed that 9-11 was partly in response to Israel’s attack on the Jenin refugee camp. That one was mind boggling since the Jenin incident happened seven months after 9-11. Some scholar.
Or another favorite is when he claimed the destabilization of western Iraq was due to Israel’s assassination of Sheikh Yassin because the group that claimed responsibility for the killing of the four American contractors in Fallujah called themselves the Brigades of Martyr Ahmed Yassin. The only problem with that is these incredibly powerful destabilizers have never been heard from again. But that didn’t matter to Cole. He had the thinnest of threads to pin something on Israel so he did it.
Or how about his utterly cowardly defense of the violence in the wake of the Danish cartoons.
I could go on and on.
Cole doesn’t deserve to teach at Yale because he’s not an honest arbiter. And his sloppy work shows that.
If people would actually take a little time to research some of his work maybe they’d find that out. But that’s not likely since he’s now being held up as some kind of martyr himself.
And that’s just plain sad. because there are people far more worthy of our support than Juan Cole.
Having taught (but not actually been on a tenure review board) in a school similar to Yale, I can say with some confidence that there is really no chance that this article will affect the tenure offer decision.
It’s worth remembering that many Ivies have a “happy bottom quarter” policy; atheletes and the sons and daughters of the rich, famous, and alumni are let in without too much regard for their intellectual capacity. (Ivies cannot grant scholarships for atheletes, but they can grant admission.)
These spoiled children mostly spend their time getting to know the other spoiled children, and their genius roommates. This networking is actually far and away worth the price of admission–for everyone, the roommates included.
friends,
The Sun is the “US Weekly” of Zioism, if i may coin that, and NOT worth getting upset over.
on the same hand,
Cole deserves fame!, did you see his recent “Challenge to Philadelphia”post–pure gold from the heart…
I know Rick Levin. He could care shit about what a hack like Horowitz thinks, and the Corporation loves him.
Is there a cite for the claim that Cole blamed 9/11 on Israel’s actions in the Jenin refugee camp?
Cole may have made some factual errors, but his performance in interpreting and predicting events in Iraq has been excellent. In particular, he was correct on the background and issues leading up to the invasion, during a period when the government and media were not. If he shouldn’t be allowed to teach in a kindergarten, the management of the NY Times shouldn’t be allowed to produce kindergarten handouts.
Pardon my Noob but:
qu’est-ce que c’est EPU ?
Apart from Evil Parallel Universe that is.
Michael & Daughter Simone Ledeen:
“In October 2003, Simone Ledeen was posted to the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq…Her connection with the Heritage Foundation was apparently key to her getting the job, as a May 23, 2004, Washington Post article stated: “For months they wondered what they had in common, how their names had come to the attention of the Pentagon, until one day they figured it out: They had all posted their resumes at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative-leaning think tank.”
Although initially appointed to perform mundane tasks, Ledeen and some of her other junior colleagues quickly rose to positions of great responsibility, due to high staff turnover at the CPA. According to the May 23, 2004, Post article: “They had been hired to perform a low-level task: collecting and organizing statistics, surveys and wish lists from the Iraqi ministries for a report that would be presented to potential donors at the end of the month. But as suicide bombs and rocket attacks became almost daily occurrences, more and more senior staffers defected. In short order, six of the new young hires found themselves managing the country’s $13 billion budget, making decisions affecting millions of Iraqis.”
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Simone_Ledeen
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#95: I am sure Juan Cole has made some mistakes, maybe some doozies. But I have been reading him for almost three years now. He has a much better record for predicting what will happen in the future re Iraq and the Middle East than anyone in the Bush administration. So I choose him over Bush. Remember Yogi Berra said: “Prediction is difficult, especially about the future.”
I think one of your comments is wrong. Here is what Cole described the cartoon riots “acts which can only inspire horror and condemnation” Is that what you mean by cowardly defense? That is the tenor of the remarks I can find in his blog. If you have an example of cowardly defense, post it or link to it here, so we won’t suspect you are just talking trash.
He also has fought against any blacklists or discrimination against Israeli and Jewish scholars. From my reading of his work, he is careful to distinguish between Jewish, Israeli, and Likud, and even differnt wings in Likud when discussing various lobbie’s influence on US policy. You may disagree, but don’t smear that kind of analysis with the broad brush of Anti-Semitism.
So, you folks should produce some goods or clam up.
*****
http://www.juancole.com/2006/0…..eirut.html
Monday, February 06, 2006
Caricatures Roil Muslim World
Beirut Embassy Torched
Iraq Demonstrations, Threats against Danish Troops
Before I launch into this report, I want to underline that few places in the Muslim world have seen violence over the caricatures, so far mainly Damascus and Beirut (which are unexpected in this regard.) Protests in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, and elsewhere have been nonviolent. This is not to play down the seriousness of what happened in Damascus and Beirut over the weekend–acts which can only inspire horror and condemnation–only to set it in context. There are 1.5 billion Muslims. A lot of Muslim countries saw no protests at all. In some places, as in Pakistan, they were anemic. The caricature protests are resonating with local politics and anti-imperialism in ways distinctive to each Muslim country. The protests therefore are probably not mostly purely about religion.
Oops, I was addressing comment #95 above, not #93
Echo, 100
qu’est-ce que c’est EPU ?
EPU is the shortname for Evil Parallel Universe, an astute blogger here who has (had?) an uncanny habit of posting a well-thought out piece at the end of a thread, thereby giving an eponymous name to the act of posting at the end of a thread.
105 OJS Thanx
HOw about the usage in 18 though ?
“Ahem did you forget Dougie Feith? And as I nearly got EPU’d”
Quoting a quote from the link to Greenwald, which is awfully indirect, but…
“For example, Mr. Cole writes that … Likud “isn’t morally superior in most respects to the Syrian Baath … it treats at least 3 million people no better than and possibly worse than the Syrian Baath treats its 17 million.”"
I was never a huge fan of Likud, and Cole is correct that its heritage is questionable
Still, the specific assertion above is ridiculous, offensive (and purposefully so), and easily refuted in one word: Hama.
Sure Horowitz is a clown. That doesn’t automatically mean Cole possesses clarity of thought or strong moral judgment.
To Roger…
The cite for Cole’s incomprehensible remarks on Jenin and 9-11 is here:
http://www.geocities.com/marti…..London.htm
That’s the cached and original version.
When he was called on it, he changed it without so much as an apology as far as I know. That’s here:
http://www.juancole.com/2005/0…..bombs.html
This is not just a simple factual error. It’s the incredibly stupid mistake of someone who is so desperate to prove a point, that the facts need not get in the way.
And I really have nothing against an honest airing of facts. I am just stridently opposed to the lionization of someone whose work is so obviously shoddy.
As much as anyone else, I would like nothing more than to nail Bush and many right-wing Israelis on many of the lies that have been perpetrated by both. But Juan Cole is not going to be one of the guys I look to for an honest accounting of these problems. He’s simply just not good enough to do it. Cole pursues only his own version of the truth, and that, in my opinion, is not what a scholar does. His bias against Israel is painfully obvious to anyone who reads his work. If you can’t see that, you’re not willing to look.
Good God, read his defense of the Mearsheimer and Walt piece in Salon. Then read Michelle Goldberg’s take on that same piece of work in Salon on the same day (which was yesterday).
Cole rails against the epithets being hurled at Mearsheimer and Walt for their paper on the Israeli lobby. Then, at the end of the piece, he claims that anyone who criticizes their work is part of a “lynch mob.” In Cole’s twisted world, it’s unacceptable to demonize Walt and Mearsheimer, but it’s perfectly fine for him to demonize those who disagree with them. I mean really, it’s such a poor piece of writing on Cole’s part. He undercuts his entire argument by becoming the very thing he says he abhors.
As to his predicting what would happen in Iraq, well, as we know, so did numerous other people, including our own generals here in the United States. Cole didn’t perform some extraordinary feat of prognostication.
Support for Juan Cole, in my opinion, is analogous to many people’s support for Bush. It doesn’t matter how many mistakes he makes, he’s always forgiven and the support remains unwavering.
I mean good grief, if you’re going to question Bush so vociferously, doesn’t it stand to reason that you might want to question some of the folks who supposedly stand for you? Especially when they leave you exposed to ridicule like Cole does all the time?
To wesgpc…
What I was referring to in my post about cowardly defense on the issue of the cartoons was this piece which I read in Salon…
http://www.salon.com/opinion/f…..index.html
And this was my response which was printed on Salon’s letter page which perhaps better explains my position…
Not a word, not a single word of condemnation in Juan Cole’s piece. Just a litany of excuses to justify what can only be termed wanton violence.
Cole’s premise, as he lays it out, proves more than ever how destructive a force radical Islam is in the world. He dissects every demonstration and concludes that in each case, it’s only politics and justifiable rage against the west that is causing these protests. Excuse me?
Putting aside the threats to free speech, how does Cole completely and utterly ignore the fact that vast swaths of the Muslim world are being cynically manipulated by their so-called leaders? Does Cole believe that these types of activities are healthy for the Muslim world? Instead of addressing the rampant poverty, lack of freedoms, treatment of women, and a host of other issues, Cole seems to think that riots, killings, death edicts and the burning of embassies are perfectly normal and acceptable in defense of the Muslim world against the dread specter of the… gasp… political cartoon.
And if some in the Muslim world are free to rampage at the slightest provocation, what does that say about Israel, Professor Cole? You talk so much about Muslim distrust of the west and the outrages visited upon the Muslim world, well, what about Jewish distrust and the litany of outrages visited upon them?
If some Muslim leaders are free to instigate shocking violence because of some petty cartoons, aren’t Jewish leaders justified in building a wall and some settlements to protect themselves from 60 years of terrorist attacks? Haven’t their sensibilities been offended just a bit over the decades? Sadly, one would have to guess that justification is only a one-way street in Juan Cole’s eyes.
Almost every day in the news we read of Muslims killing fellow Muslims in Iraq. Just this morning I read about at least 27 deaths in Pakistan after a bomb was detonated in a Shiite procession. Muslims slaughtering Muslims day in and day out. Thousands and thousands of INNOCENT MUSLIMS being killed in Iraq, Pakistan, Palestine, Lebanon. Hundreds of thousands in the Sudan. And not a peep. Not a protestor in sight. But hey, print twelve cartoons, we’ll show you worldwide outrage.
The garbage that Cole asserts here is simply disgusting. I wonder how this type of weak, shallow and apologist tripe can make it into Salon. It’s also, quite frankly, an embarrassingly bad piece of journalism.
I’ll wait to read Juan Cole’s piece dissecting and defending the rationale for the coming Iranian Holocaust cartoons. And then I’ll wait to read about his condemnation of Jewish reaction.
You have to know it’s coming.
OMG Juan Cole is so awesome. I started reading him even before FDL. He is the go to guy for Iraq and Middle East goings on. It is disgusting thinking such a wonder writer and scholar is accused of such things for no reason. Frankly the whole anti-semitism thing escapes me sometimes. I would have to say I knew about Israel’s policies before I knew who the jews are/were (par for the course living in south Louisiana). So I don’t like Israel’s policies as a nation does that make me “anti-semitic”? My point is way too many people assume that because Israel is “jewish” if you don’t like its’ policies you are anti-semetic. This idea is unfounded in my opinion. I have jewish friends who just can’t speak objectively about the policies of that nation. They somehow take it personally. Maybe I am ignorant, but it does not make sense to me intellectually. I therefore avoid that subject with them to keep the peace.
Speaking as a Jew(and a Zionist), I would like to say that AIPAC does not =Israel, just as the PNAC does not = America. AIPAC has a long history of flogging the Likud line, even actively opposing Rabin and Barak. They consistenly skew to the right of the US (and Israeli!!) Jewish mainstream. I sometimes think that Professor Cole paints the US Jewish community with too broad a brush. But I think that he is a valuable(and knowledgeable) voice, and support his right to speak out.
What we are dealing with here is America’s ugliest truth. The Juan Coles of this world are NOT welcome at Yale and schools like it, and worse, they never were. The “elite” schools exist to invent and perpetuate the party line–and it can be easily demonstrated the Cole’s self-defined mission is to provide a non-party line worldview.
Yes, there have been occasional mavericks like J. Kenneth Galbraith or Cornell West at Harvard, but they were exceptions that prove the rule. They were rare, and there has been an organized effort to expunge any intellectual memory of their existence when they have left.
Thorstein Veblen wrote “The Higher Learning†in 1904 about the purpose of the University of Chicago. That it would have to be but slightly changed to describe U of C in 2006 shows the nearly permanent nature of the mission of such schools.
I recently gave a guest lecture at the University of Minnesota and thoroughly enjoyed the bright young students. Trust me Cole, if you DO go to Yale, you will shortly miss being at Michigan. Remember, Veblen’s most productive years were at the University of Missouri. These big land grant schools still have homes for people who actually enjoy finding and distributing high quality information. Yale specializes in intellectual butt-kissers–exactly how will you thrive there?
Actually the interesting question is, “Exactly HOW did absolute support of Israel’s far right get to be part of the party line?â€
“This is not just a simple factual error. It’s the incredibly stupid mistake of someone who is so desperate to prove a point, that the facts need not get in the way.”
To me, it looks exactly like a simple factual error. It’s an easily checked assertion that’s clearly wrong. The distinction you’re avoiding is that it’s an honest mistake, made in good faith. When I read Cole, as I have most days for the past few years, I’m not surprised by a few mistakes and controversial opinions. But I don’t
have the feeling that he’s deceived and manipulated me in the past and that I have to be on guard.
I hardly lionize Cole. But if I did, so what? Where is the cosmic injustice in overestimating his scholarship? If he’s in too much hurry to google the time lines, how many bodies will arrive at Dover? How many wedding parties blown away? Is it more imporatnt to trust our academics or our government? These may not be important differences, but I find them worth considering.
yep, rightwing kiddies get a free boost…
Quote from “Moonstruck: The Reverend and his Newspaper†by Ann Louise Bardach, an article that was originally to have appeared in Vanity Fair in 1992 but was killed. It finally saw print in 2004 when included in the book Killed, Great Journalism Too Hot to Print by David Wallis.
Quoting Bardach in 1992:
Bristling with emotion while thumping the podium, [Moon] told a stunned audience that he had already poured a staggering $830 million into the Times. Moreover, he said that he personally raises the $7 million dollars each month needed to keep the paper afloat.
If Moon’s figures are correct, they are a record-shattering sum for the newspaper business, surprising previous estimates of $35 million to $50 million annual losses for the paper. Time Life pulled the plug on the Washington Star when its losses hit $30 million while the Dallas Herald owners closed their doors after less than $20 million seeped into the red. ….snip….
Notably among the paper’s(Washington Times) first staffers were the children of conservative luminaries, a group dubbed the “mini-neocons.” They included John Podhoretz, whose parents Norman Podhoretz and Midge Dexter are veritable conservative institutions, Liz Kristol, Irving’s daughter, Danny Wattenberg, son of Times columnist Ben, and Dawn Weyrich, daughter of conservative icon, Paul Weyrich. …
Charlotte Hayes, who wrote a hilarious and snarky memoir in The New Republic entitled “I was Moonie Gossip Columnist,” still laments the loss of the generous expense account she had at the paper. “This is on the Rev.,” Hayes, a thoroughbred conservative, would tell sources as she lunged for meal checks. “The Times,” she added drolly, “is a place for free market conservatives to escape the free market.”
End quote
Rob,
I have to say that the Jenin attack error is a simple mistake on Cole’s part, and doesn’t really address his central argument: that the timing of the 9/11 attacks was determined somewhat by the US support of Ariel Sharon. It was an error in his timeline recollection in placing one event in the wrong place historically, but the general point remains that the US supported Sharon back in 2000-1, a time period that included the famous visit to the Temple on the Mount, a move that appeared to be intended to poison the peace talks on Clinton’s watch.
Let’s contrast with the alleged complaint against Cole: that he “disparaged the participation of prominent American Jews in government”. Of course, that charge could be leveled at anybody who thought the neocon agenda was stupid, considering that many of the leading neocons are Jewish.
Personally, I don’t give a rats’ ass about the religious affiliations of the neocons. But this kind of criticism makes it seem like any criticism of any Jew can only be a sign of anti-Semitism. That’s a cheap way of doing business.
This will be EPU’d, but I would like to disavow Jonah for all of the other male Goucher Alumni out there.
He was a jerk then too.
Why would Yale want to make his disgrace its own?
Why indeed? Yale is “the Kingdom.” Hate it or love it. Nasty university politics aside, scholarship and critical thinking are still in vogue. If Bush twin can “put up” up with those “awful liberals” for four years, I think some other undergrads can grit their teeth. Juan Cole we’ll throw a party when you get tenure if you like, ok? But don’t go all Harold Bloom on us.
BTW. Speaking as a “townie.”
BTW. Speaking as a “townie.”
Prof. Foland,
why you are a little cynical about our illustrious Ivy League undergrads. Why I know . . . o.k., so some of us avoid most undergrads like the plague.
There’s a difference between a simple factual error and a mistake of that magnitude.
And a mistake like that reveals an underlying truth. And the underlying truth is that Cole has an inherent bias against Israel. How else does one explain an enormous mistake such as that from such and “expert” on the Middle East?
As to 9/11 and Sharon, Juan Cole also asserted in that same piece with the Jenin claim that:
“according to the September 11 Commission report, al-Qaeda conceived 9/11 in some large part as a punishment on the US for supporting Ariel Sharon’s iron fist policies toward the Palestinians.*
*T.P. points out by email that I should have said that the 9/11 Commission concluded that the timing of 9/11 was attributable to Sharon, not that the operation was largely conceived in response to him. This is correct; one writes blogs in haste and my phrasing was insufficiently careful.”
http://www.juancole.com/2005/0…..bombs.html
Unbelievable. The 9/11 Report SAYS NO SUCH THING. Go download the report and find me where it says anything remotely resembling that claim. As to Sharon, HE’S NEVER EVEN MENTIONED in the 9/11 Report.
The report says the attacks were being planned before Sharon even became Prime Minister. I mean good God, Sharon became PM on February 27, 2001. Are there people out there who actually believe that Al Qaeda “conceived 9/11,” as Cole claims, in response to Sharon’s policies? If that’s the case then Bin Laden and the boys planned and executed the entire operation, includuing the training of the pilots and the placements of the teams in a mere six months. No one in their right mind believes that because it’s simply not true. Mohammed Atta arrived in the United States in late 1999 or early 2000. I checked my calendar and I think that’s before February 27, 2001.
So what gives? I know what gives. The guy just makes these extraordinary factual errors which are then dismissed by his supporters as simple mistakes. But these are not simple mistakes. They are monumental. Cole isn’t trying to prove some minor point, he’s talkng about one of the biggest events in world history and he’s just making stuff up. And the problem is that for all these people who look to him for some kind of guidance, those huge errors become part of their dogma in the same way the myth of the Al Qaeda-Iraq connection does for crazy Bush supporters.
And in my book, people making those kinds of mistakes are not the kinds of people I want teaching in one of our best universities. Nor are they the kind of people whom I can rely on to give me actual facts. And that includes Cole. He’s too damn sloppy and he’s too damn skewed.
Rob: I disagree with your evaluation of Cole’s Salon piece. Cole is discussing how local politics influenced the violent cartoon protests in different places, rather than pure religious sectarian outrage. If you think it is wrong that he did not take space to issue condemnations, that is your right, but doing that was not the point of the piece. Neither was a comparative analysis of the various Israeli and Palestinian political ideologies. You just seem to be so outraged by Cole’s beliefs generally, that you think it is illegitimate that he chose to analyze how local politics influenced the course of the riots in different places. There is nothing in the piece at all that indicates sympathy or apology for the violence, in my opinion.
Eliana Johnson sounds old enough to sign up for military service. So, she is going to do that when?
Even Rove is entitled to due process as to his security clearance. That the wheels of justice are rusty because of the ambitions of this administration should be no surprise to us.
We need to enforce accountability on Bush so that the laws are preserved. And since we can’t, we must fix the broken system asap or else, checks and balances is just an old world concept.
I am reminded of Edward Said’s problems with America’s academia for not toeing one political party line regarding the Middle East. Professor Coles has educated me on this region as no other educator ever had.
I find it terrifying that Yale can produce such small talents, given the exclusivity of the institution.
As I read the article by these two neophytes, I have to wonder how did they get into Yale and what role did entitlement play in their admissions?
Rereading the criticisms of Professor Cole, I am reminded of the criticisms of Edward Said, in which a factual error, such as a date, was characterized as either proving the inherent bias of the author or else to disprove the thesis of the entire argument.
Cole blogs a lot of words per week without benefit of editor. Being human, he will commit errors. However, the errors are not numerous nor significant enough to detract from the larger message.
On second thought, Yale doesn’t deserve Cole.
Wes,
You’re right in some sense. I certainly did take umbrage at the fact that in a 2,000 word piece, Cole said nothing to condemn the violence. He clinically explained it which was was his point, I guess.
And I didn’t think it illegitimate that he chose to analyze the local politics surrounding the riots. I thought it was illegitimate that while he goes out of his way to give us all the context in the world about the reactions in the different countries, he conveniently leaves out the fact that these governments have been cynically manipulating their people for years. How is that NOT part of this story? If you’re going to explain the roots of the violence, why not talk about those things? Why not talk about a lack of freedom in these places?
Why? Because it doesn’t fit into Cole’s frame, that’s why. And I’m the kind of person that likes to see the whole story, not just what Cole wants me to see.
As to my musings on the Israeli-Palestinian question, that is certainly a valid point on my part to make. Cole goes out of his way to explain and analyze the violence in response to the cartoons. Yet I’ve never seen him give the same latitude to Israel for its responses to terrorism.
Cole is like the Bush administration. He cherry-picks. And like I’ve proven in my previous posts, he simply makes things up… just like the Bush administration.
Ent Lord…
Like I said before… these are not minor factual errors or a minor case of getting the dates wrong… these are major and glaring mistakes that speak to the shoddiness of Cole’s work.
I could understand some minor errors from a guy who “blogs a lot of words per week without benefit of editor.” But these are not minor errors.
They are monumental gaffes that do detract from the larger message. Especially when that larger message is being influenced by those errors.
Cole is trying to tell us in one of his posts that 9/11 was conceived partly in response to Sharon’s policies. That’s his larger messaage.
And it’s totally and unequivocally false. And not only is the larger message false, but the facts he presents to support his larger message are false. It’s a joke how bad some of this guy’s work is.
So stop making excuses for him simply because you agree with some of what he says.
And I have news for you, I agree with some of what he says, too. But his bias against Israel, the way he conveniently cherry-picks his facts, and the FACT that he’s just flat-out making false statements add up to a guy I don’t want to rely on.
If I’m going into battle, I want the truth on my side. And Cole, far too often, just doesn’t present the truth.
I am a graduate of both Yale (undergrad) and University of Michigan (law), where Cole currently teaches, and support both schools and their association with Cole. He is a leader in his field, and it is not surprising that such schools would be interested in having him on their faculties, even if his views are certain to conflict with those of some faculty or students.
Having been involved in admissions, I echo the comments above regarding the admission of wealthy and connected children. It is by no means a guarantee of admission, but it certainly helps. The overall admit rate for Yale this year was less than 8%, but alumni children were admitted at twice that rate. Still, 83% did not get in. However, being a Bush has clearly been a big advantage for several generations now.
Hey, wait a minute: Professor Cole is currently at my alma mater, the University of Michigan (aka the Harvard of the Midwest). He can’t abandon us for the Ivy League!
I know I’m late to the game here, but how could you forget Simone Ledeen?
Yale student Eliana Johnson, daughter of Scott “Big Trunk” Johnson of Powerline, whom Scott refers to as “The Little Trunk.” (Wonder if they’ve taken their pledge at the father/daughter purity ball?)
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eew, that was uhm, mean.
ouch.
Thank you, Rob, for your compelling and justified arguments. Intellectual integrity is more important than subject matter expertise. Your posts demonstrate that point beautifully.
Prof. Cole understands, speaks, reads and writes Arabic – fluently.
He’s literate in Farsi too
( a.k.a.Persian – they changed Persia to “Iran” when they started to plan the invasion of Texas.)
He has written that he speaks Urdu at home.
He knows too much.
Instead of Yale, shouldn’t he be in Gitmo until there’s some regime change ?
Thanks, jdfeminist. You’re absolutely right, intellectual integrity is extremely important. And it’s something Cole lacks.
And not for nothing, but his expertise on the subject matter comes into serious question as well when he’s making some of his ridiculous claims.
What really gets my goat about Cole is how much people rely on him. I guess it’s an echo chamber for them. But if they have to step out of that chamber and get into a serious debate, they are dead as ducks. And why?
Because if one wants to use Cole’s work in a serious debate, you can’t. You’ll be undercut immediately by many of his inane pronouncements. You’ll say, “Juan Cole said this.” They’ll say “But Juan Cole also said this,” and then they’ll list a litany of ridiculous comments and that’s it. You’re intellectually finished because the guy you’re quoting is so easily shot down by his own words and his made up facts.
And that’s the real problem. He’s so easily dismissed by anyone with a cursory knowledge of those facts. And his work proves that point over and over.
Bottom line, if people are unwilling to call him on his intellectual dishonesty then I’m sorry, they are intellectually dishonest as well.
I can’t get excited about his getting some dates wrong on a blog. If that indicates lack of intellectual integrity, what about conscious lies to Congress that lead to an unnecessary war? Going bananas over faulty dates makes you sound like Mommy Dearest discovering a coathanger.
Roger…
I haven’t been rude to anyone here in stating my opinion and I haven’t defended Bush as anyone who’s read my posts can see.
But you, in your intellectual dishonesty, obviously ignore that it’s not about “getting some dates wrong.” Cole attributed the 9/11 attack to an event that hadn’t even happened. That’s not about an incorrect date, that’s about incredibly poor work that shows how anxious he was to somehow drag Israel into 9/11.
And I notice how you don’t even mention Cole’s excellent comprehension of the 9/11 report. I mean it takes real talent to completely fabricate its conclusions. Or was that just about a faulty date, too, Rog?
As for Bush lying to Congress, does that, in your mind, justify Cole or anyone else lying?
And Rog… about the Mommy Dearest comment… thanks for showing this board what kind of person you really are.
And by the way, it’s spelled ‘Mommie’ Dearest. Not Mommy. Guess you and Juan both like to get things wrong.
Sorry for the double posting but for the record it seems to be more appropriate here.
From Informed Comment 4-20-06 http://www.juancole.com/
“I kept meaning to blog the nice award ceremony held April 12 in New York at Hunter College, at which the 2005 James Aronson Awards for Social Justice Journalism were handed out.â€
James Aronson Award for Social Justice Journalism 2005
Blogging at its Best: Juan Cole, Informed Comment.
‘ Blogging represents a significant new form of communication–sometimes merely scurrilous, sometimes a vital extension of public debate–and of journalism. “Informed Comment,” Cole’s Iraq War web log, shows the form reaching its highest social value. Cole, a professor of history at the University of Michigan, brings his scholarly expertise to the analysis of daily events. He speaks Arabic, Persian and Urdu and has lived for long periods in various places in the Middle East. As a blogger, he becomes a sort of hybrid scholar/journalist as he gathers links to US and international news, then draws from his professorial expertise to provide running commentary on the insurgency, the American military response, and nuances of Middle Eastern politics and religion. His easy, humorous style recalls I. F. Stone’s Vietnam-era newsletters and makes his dispatches an indispensable tool for understanding the social justice implications of this complex conflict. ‘
Congratulations and many thanks Professor Cole.
A Golden Oldie: Character Assassination
See his comment on the anti-Semite charge by Daniel Pipes and the real targets of Pipes and Co., liberal and leftist Jews.
From December 2004:
“Yes, I’m aware that Daniel Pipes of the so-called Middle East Forum sent some puppy out to slime me over at David Horowitz’s Frontpagerag. So this is the way it goes with the Likudniks. First they harass you and try to have you spied on. Then they threaten, bully and try to intimidate you. And if that fails and you show some spine, then they simply lie about you. (In this case the lies are produced by quoting half a passage, or denuding it of its context, or adopting a tone of pained indignation when quoting a perfectly obvious observation).â€
The thing that most pains me in all this is the use of the word “antisemite.” Pipes already had to settle one lawsuit, by Douglas Card, for throwing the word around about him irresponsibly.
Read the rest of it for clarification of right-wing Israeli politics at http://www.juancole.com
Who can forget Hitch calling Professor Cole “the egregious Professor Cole” who “claims to speak Farsi” during his debate with George Galloway? Has Hitch ever apologized or tried to justify this nonsense? Or was he too drunk to remember having said it?
Troll
why do you care what a professor sys about Israel. I’m a jew and I don’t care if one of my professors down grade a certain Israly politacal party. I wouldn’t give a dime to Israel. I live in this country and we need the money more. I dare one of you to call me antisemtic because of my thoughts. I love AMERICA not Israel.
Awwww…. the Jews “stold” all your family had? Awwww… what a shame.
Not.
If racists like you run in the family, it was probably a good thing.
As for you, Harvey, learn to spell “Israeli” and “political” and perhaps people will take you more seriously.