
(guest blog by Taylor Marsh)
Okay, I’ll bite.
The news is out. Via Chris Bowers we find out that Al Gore is not only back but has hired Roy Neel, one of Howard Dean’s key aides in 2004, to help him get the message out on his global warming information mission. Gore’s been out promoting his new environmental movie, "An Inconvenient Truth," which was received so warmly at Sundance. But does he have larger ambitions to go along with it?
Bowers of MyDD isn’t convinced Gore should be put in any straw polls he does on the 2008 election. Bowers is also prepared to hear a lot from Al Gore’s fans, encouraging his inclusion in his polling. Count me among them.
Gore still contends he’s not focused on ’08 and isn’t thinking about running right now. But come on, what does that actually mean in political speak? The only thing I haven’t heard from Gore is that 2008 is a lifetime away in political terms.
… … You cannot see this film and not think of George W. Bush, the man who beat Gore in 2000. Bush has been studiously anti-science, a man of applied ignorance who has undernourished his mind with the empty calories of comfy dogma. For instance, his insistence on abstinence as the preferred method of birth control would be laughable were it not so reckless. It is similar to Bush’s initial approach to global warming. It may be that Gore will do more good for his country and the world with this movie than Bush ever did by winning in 2000.
Gore insists his presidential aspirations are behind him. "I think there are other ways to serve," he told me. No doubt. But on paper, he is the near-perfect Democratic candidate for 2008. He won the popular vote in 2000. He opposed going to war in Iraq, but he supported the previous Gulf War – right both times. He is much more a person of the 21st century than most of the other potential candidates. Gore could be a great President. First, he has to be a good candidate.
There are so many reasons Al Gore would be a great candidate for 2008, not the least of which is his stance on the Iraq war and his belief in muscular diplomacy first. He also, having been freed from political and election constraints, is a man who has clearly found a way for his passion to come out of his mouth. Sure he’s on a global mission to raise awareness on the environment. But there’s real thirst in the progressive ranks for Gore, most believing he would have a real chance to make a come back, if he but makes the decision to run.
"I am Al Gore. I used to be the next president of the United States of America. (laughter) I don’t consider that particularly funny." – Al Gore
Once the self deprecating, fire and brimstone politician Al Gore showed up, after his presidential dreams had been dashed on the front steps of the Supreme Court, it was as if a new man had emerged. The stage fright that made him so wooden was gone. His reluctance at political humor now used to great affect. Then of course there is that other thing.
Today, Al Gore looks like a political god compared to the incompetent and weak president currently presiding at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Right now, polls show that if the 2004 election were held today, John Kerry would win by ten points-plus. Imagine what would happen if you put Al Gore’s name in the ring.



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Gore/Fitzgold-08!!!
Oh Sweet Jesus, say it’s true!
The Hauge!!
I hope Al runs… he should easily win…
He beat Dubya by 500,000 votes last time, and that was before the whole country found out incompetent and EVIL Dumbass Dubya really is !!!
It was the self-deprecating Al Gore that I voted for. We need more self-deprecating politicians: they have a much better sense of perspective. Too many of them have far too much ego for the good of themselves or the rest of us.
I sugesst the following slogan:
RE-ELECT AL GORE!
The next president will be facing the worst situation that this country has ever seen. It will take someone of incredible abilities to see us out of this mess. Does Gore have it?
I think he has the most ability of anyone mentioned so far. But he will need a great team to help him.
I SUGGEST the following slogan:
RE-ELECT AL GORE!
FWIW, I had an opportunity to see Gore deliver his presentation on the environment just before the ‘04 election. Most compelling political speech I’ve ever seen. The buzz afterward was “where was he hiding all this in ‘00.” For all our sakes I hope he finds the way, direct or indirect, to exert influence on this issue.
Having said all of this I regret to say it but I doubt his chances unless he can develop some very clever policy proposals that can be both effective and enacted. Otherwise, the whole exercise is just that. I believe he is capable of doing so, just haven’t seen it yet.
Driverdog
I voted for John Kerry because he was all there was. Al Gore light as it were. If the real Al Gore were to run again it would be a great step forward for the country and the world. Please Goddess let it be so.
yes, please.
run al, run!
i have been especially impressed with the the post-2000 al gore. he knows what he’s up against now. but, would he be himself – or try to pretend to be someone else (as he did during the 2000 campaign).
ArtShu-
I got it the first time ;) But that’s a great slogan and I would pepper my car with that bumper sticker.
Run. Al. Run. Nuff said.
Prof Foland – I emailed you.
“He (Gore) beat Dubya by 500,000 votes last time, and that was before the whole country found out incompetent and EVIL Dumbass Dubya really is !!!
But after we found out what an “incompetent and EVIL Dumbass Dubya” was, the country actually (I think) elected him in 2004 for the first time.
It’s hard to win elections that are rigged against you.
Plus, he’s dead schexy. I heart Al Gore in more ways than I care to mention.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I think Gore wants to be begged to run again. And I don’t mean that in an egotistical way. I think he would only do it if he felt there was a real movement of people who are behind him and would be willing to work at a grassroots level to put him in office.
Al Gore speaks for me.
I’ll bite too!
One good thing about Gore running is that it would immediately knock Hilary out of her press-annointed front-runner position.
Though the cynic in me wonders if this country is even close to being ready for a White House run by intelligent responsible adults?
I admire Gore, but I’m not buying it. I need a better candidate than Gore. I think that they should all line up behind Feingold and help him out. Gore had three debates with Bush and was unable to undress him. Just think for a minute about how George Bush’s face would have looked after an hour in front of a crowd with Bill Clinton. There are going to be a lot of people who minimize Gore’s negatives over the next year, but he does have them, and ignoring them will not make them go away. I think we can do better.
peace,
jim
Count me, my wife, & our money in for Gore.
Then let me be the first to begin the begging:
Al, I’m praying to you…I’m praying to you Al…look in your heart…look in your heart, Al and run.
How about Gore-Feingold in ‘08!
al gore is our only hope in ‘08…
Cathy – If that is true, wouldn’t a netroots campaign to “draft” Gore be something that the more “organizationally capable (and motivated)” among us should try to organize as a netroots campaign.
Just tell me where to sign my name – I’ll even donate money.
It may be that Gore will do more good for his country and the world with this movie than Bush ever did by winning in 2000.
huh? what good has Bush accomplished – ever?
RECALL BUSH / REELECT AL
Hey, John B., that’s exactly what my husband offered up.
We’re talking about President Al Gore? It must be my birthday!
(Hey, it is my birthday!)
…the self-deprecating Al Gore…
Bush often has that stupid shit-eating grin on his mug. Does that make him self-decrapeating?
Here is one Draft Al Gore petition that’s been on my blog for months… just in case anyone’s interested.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com…..297560#top
Run Al Run! My slogan for the campaign would be:HOW ABOUT A DO-OVER! The present Republican Party is SUCH a craven bunch of maggots that if Al Gore won, they would try to limit him to a single term because of his victory in 2000!
EPU-
Exactly. Send money to Cathy, care of FDL.
But seriously, yes, and the more this builds momentum, the more people will get behind it. I think that’s how grassroot efforts work.
I think it is known as self-decrapatating humor in Chimpy’s case.
The Future Mrs Feingold:
Better watch out – I’m gonna tell Russ on you!
:-)
Unfortunately, although he has hired Dean’s man Roy Neel, he has also re-hired some of his own consultants from his ‘00 bid – consultants who seemed to bring out the wooden wonk-drone Al. Let’s hope he’s shed that (in my view artificially-constructed) persona for good.
… or self-defecating
imagine the experience: Viet Name, 8 years in House, 8 years in Senate, 8 years as VP, then 8 years working on Global Warming. He must know everyone who knows anything. Should be able to gather good people around him for his administration. A terrible job. He might be able to handle it. If not, who else?
2008? That’s light years away. Need to concentrate on limiting Clusterfuck damage first.
Yes, of course, Gore. Hallelujah if we could have President Gore. Reality check, however. Our voting machines are rigged. The mid-terms may make that abundantly clear to even the stupidest or most naive, e.g., Katherine Harris “edges out” Bill Nelson in Florida. I realized it when Saxby “Shameless” Chambliss “beat” Max Cleland in my home state. Our votes are truly the most important concern we have right now because no guarantee that they count exists. Besides already begging, beseeching, imploring, and pleading for paper ballots, what to do? In December, should we expect more passivity from the public or perhaps a good, old fashioned American revolution? I’m betting on passivity.
Put Gore in those straw polls…without his name those polls are woefully inaccurate now.
Al Gore may be the only viable candidate to stop Hillary Clinton, not to mention a far preferable candidate than her. Al has been forged in the fires of the 2000 election, enured to a degree that even Feingold and Clark can’t match, and I’m a big fan of those two.
It’s Al Gore’s time. We need him.
Al Gore, if he’s wise (and he seems to be), will stand for issues. It doesn’t matter if it’s environment or our warmongering government, as long as he sticks to speaking truth to power about an issue.
This is the road a politician must take to the presidency. It’s the same one Russ Feingold is on. We know Feingold wants to run for president, but he’s sticking to issues he feels strongly about instead of “triangulating” some ethereal demographic.
What is the downside here, especially for Gore? If he’s not interested in running he comes across as a champion of a cause. If he does run, the worst he can do is lose. He’s been there. But even so, by sticking to the message and being a leader figure he still wins.
OT, but LMAO, Tim Grieve, Salon.com-
Bush on Rumsfeld: Because I said so
George W. Bush was asked today to respond to the charge that he’s ignoring retired military commanders who say it’s time for a change at the Pentagon. Here’s what the president said:
“I say, I listen to all voices, but mine is the final decision. And Don Rumsfeld is doing a fine job. He’s not only transforming the military, he’s fighting a war on terror. He’s helping us fight a war on terror. I have strong confidence in Don Rumsfeld. I hear the voices, and I read the front page, and I know the speculation. But I’m the decider, and I decide what is best. And what’s best is for Don Rumsfeld to remain as the secretary of defense.”
—
Shorter Decider-in-Chief Bush: “He has too much dirt on me.”
I can’t think of anyone better situated. Where you stood on the war will be the number one issue to most Dems in the next primary, and Gore managed to stake out exactly the right position. He can claim to have been against the Iraq war, yet can point to substantive action taken against terrorism while Vice President (Millennium Plot). His environmental credentials are unimpeachable. And he is the only serious Dem contender who has not been a part of the disaster that has been the Democratic party for the past 8 years.
Oh, it’s time for Gore all right.
He’d even win if we didn’t have fraudulent elections.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2…..exit_polls
http://blackboxvoting.org/
‘I hear the voices’ sez Bush. I bet he does. The ones in his head.
Christ –run Al! run!
Only please for chrissake get rid of Donna Brazile and James Carville too, as long as he is married to the Vampire of the Black Lagoon. Don’t trust either of them.
oh great. he hears voices.
Artist – David Byrne and Brian Eno
Album – My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts
The Jezebel Spirit
Do you hear voices?
You do, so you are possessed.
You are a believer, born again
And yet you hear voices and you are possessed.
Ok, are you ready to be delivered?
Put your hand over there.
We want this figured out.
Ok (m)ister;
You have a Jezebel spirit within you
You have a spirit of grief
You have a spirit of destruction.
Jezebel,
Spirit of destruction,
Spirit of grief,
I bind you with chains of iron
I bind you out of that bounded heaven.
Loosen your hold and come out of her(e) now….
I saw Al Gore speak in a small town in Tennessee in Oct. 2001.
My initial reaction was, “if you’da been here this time last year, mister, you wouldn’t be here today.” Feelings were bitter, then, since he had made little effort to campaign in Tennessee and ended up being one of the few candidates ever to lose his own state. And as someone who had been a volunteer at the local headquarters, I felt we had worked much harder for him than he had for himself.
But he quickly won me, and the rest of the crowd over with his new, open and relaxed style. It was as if he had figured out, having nothing to lose, why shouldn’t he be himself?
I would vote for him again in a heartbeat.
Agree rw.
OT, by pushing the price of crude over $70 a barrel, Bush has breathed new life into the vast (and vastly more expensive) Canadian oil reserves as well as all the alternative fuels. IMO we need a gas?, oil?, foreign oil? tax to provide price stability (that’s the WH’s favorite term these days)for alternative fuels. Investors won’t invest in alternatives if they are afraid the price of foreign oil will fall and price them out of the market.
OT: IMO Dems will profit greatly by bringing up the “rolling blackouts” in the Leaker-in-Chief’s home state.
political humor now used to great affect.
Should be effect. A good rule of thumb is, if you’re using “affect” as a noun, you’re probably wrong.
[Maybe someone’s pointed this out already, but I started this comment when there was only one other comment.]
I haven’t gotten over my suspicion of Al Gore. I remember the PMRC, the proposed tax on digital audio tapes, the focus groups, ignoring Bill Clinton’s offers of help, or Joe Lieberman. I also haven’t forgotten how close he has been to corporate America. Little of that seems to have changed, except for the focus groups, which aren’t really necessary at the moment.
Being “away” from politics for a while has been good for him. He seems much more sure of himself now, and that can’t be bad. He’s also trying to do something positive while he earns a living, which is a choice you have to respect because he certainly had other options. Plus, he’s probably learned a little about what it takes to run a business (he seems to have been no less successful than W. was at this – though that seems like damning with faint praise), and that’s a good perspective for a lifelong politician to have.
So, the jury’s still out. I’d welcome his candidacy, if for no other reason than the rest of the field seems rather weak right now. Other than Feingold, who is probably not going to get past the Democratic machine no matter what, there are really no good candidates out there. I like Kerry, but he’s not going to be any better a candidate than he was last time. I don’t like Sen. Clinton, because she’s too interested in pandering to the right. This demonstrates bad political instincts as well as poor policy choice. Biden and Edwards just sound too full of themselves. If Gore has finally become the guy we glimpsed on MLK day, then at least there will be one viable candidate in the mix.
But I’m going to need some serious convincing, and the only guy who can do that is Al Gore.
Happy Birthday JeannieZ!
Can’t remember where I read it – Time or Newsweek, maybe? – but there was an article recently about how campaigns have become all about the advisors and less about the candidates themselves. It was pointed out that it was Gore’s advisors who put the lid on the one issue where Al Gore was the real Al Gore – the environment. That was an issue where people could have seen the warm, passionate, animated Gore, instead of the wooden, condescending Gore that was designed by political advisors. John Kerry suffered from – among other things – the same problem. If Gore considers running, someone should make sure Bob Shrum is under lock and key in an undisclosed location.
I like Al Gore. He’s got the smarts, he knows a lot of other really smart people, and he can see past the end of his own nose. He has the patience for long-term diplomacy, he’s a big believer in smaller government, he knows the meaning of fiscal responsibility. He might be the only candidate who could challenge Big Oil and set us on a course toward environmentally-friendly energy independence.
I think Gore-Feingold would be a powerful and attractive (politically as well as visually!) combination that could energize the party.
He’d have to make nice with the Clintons, for sure, and that could be somewhat dicey.
i would have voted for gore redux in 2000, instead of nader. but that’s looking in the rear view mirror with bush driving…
losing in 2000 may have been the best thing for gore. sad can’t say the same thing for the country. orthe world.
GeeW: “I’m the decider, and I decide what is best.”
How comforting.
Secure in that knowledge, I’ll sleep like a baby, i.e., waking up screaming every four hours.
I respect Al Gore. He’d make a good president. Go AL!
Al is is an adult, at least.
gore w/o shrum – i’m there, ready to travel to swing states.
gore w/shrum – not one dime or minute of my time.
OT
Headline at Cannonfire;
Tom Delay appointee involved in drug running?
Link
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/
Gave me a chuckle.
Ezra Klein on C-Span this past week spoke very well and comprehensively re Gore’s possible run, the advantages, disadvantages and potential harnessing of the netroots which he is very knowledgable of….if you really want to see/listen to some astute commentary check
http://www.c-span.org/search/b…..ge1=Submit
first result on search page
The world and America could only be so fortunate as to have Al Gore be the next US President.
Never Forget: George W. Bush willfully violated National Security to cover-up his willful launch of a war of aggression and illegal occupation of Iraq.
Sorry to be a wet blanket, but Al Gore in ‘08 is a revenge fantasy. I love the idea, but in politics there is no such thing as cosmic justice. If Gore were nominated, there is every possibility that he would lose–for the first time–to John McCain (or, heaven forbid) George Allen.
“Right now, polls show that if the 2004 election were held today, John Kerry would win by ten points-plus. Imagine what would happen if you put Al Gore’s name in the ring.”
Some wingnut so-called Christian would probably try to shoot him.
Anne @ 12:29 pm (#53) – I think you’re onto something. If you remove the passion from a politician, in this case by trying to sound “measured” or “responsible” on an issue you care deeply about, what’s left? If you’re lucky, you have someone who is still a decent legislator or administrator, but you certainly don’t have an inspiring candidate.
Kerry seemed most alive when he was with his Vietnam buddies. That was the time when he had a passion to do something. He tried to sound so responsible on the Iraq War that he ended up making no sense. If you take away Gore’s ability to speak about the environment the way he feels he needs to, what you’re left with is the Woodman.
I have a file of broken weather records, which is showing an increasing and escalating pattern– new ones every day. Today:
–Unseasonably high temperatures broke records across Texas.
The National Weather Service says that the warm weather was expected to continue for at least another day before a “cold front” brings more normal conditions.
A recorded high of 101 at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport broke the previous high of 94, set in 1913 and 1925. A meteorologist says it marked the hottest temperature ever recorded in the area in the month of April.
Temperatures reached 107 in Laredo. A high of 100 broke a 1987 record of 90 in Austin. Temperatures tied the previous record of 92 in Houston, also set in 1987.–
What’s interesting is by how much records are being broken. Not one or two degrees, but 8 or 10 or more. 107 is HOT, people. Fatal to some.
Why I point this out is that by 2008, global warming may be a much, much bigger blip on the screen. In fact, it may be our biggest problem. And Gore is the only guy with any answers.
Actually, Gore’s hiring Roy Neel is even more significant than it sounds. Yeah, Neel was involved in Howard Dean’s 2004 campaign — but as no one else seems to have observed, well before that, he was Gore’s Chief of Staff (IIRC) as both Senator and for the first few years as VP.
IOW, Neel is a long-time, deeply trusted political aide of Gore’s. The fact that Gore is bringing him back is a pretty strong signal that he wants to run a political and substantive campaign.
Of course, the campaign could be against global warming. Not necessarily for President — but also, possibly for President if events and public opinion move in that direction.
My father asked me yesterday who the Democrats had who could lead them. I told him Gore. Hillary Clinton seems to be trying to position herself as Bush-lite. Kerry still has the public speaking skills of a rhododendron. The Democratic establishment will never accept Dean. I didn’t think Al Gore got the needed fire in his belly until after the 2000 election was stolen. I can feel the fire within him now. I will cheer when Al comes down from the mountain to lead us.
If you take away Gore’s ability to speak about the environment the way he feels he needs to, what you’re left with is the Woodman.
No, actually, if you go back and read or listen to Gore’s speeches on civil liberties or the war in Iraq, he brings the same passion, intelligence, and well-pointed insights he does on the environment.
Gore pre-2000 election was always too much the kind of cautious politician he thought his father had wanted him to be. He has truly been liberated personally by the Great Theft of 2000.
Thank you, Dr. Bong, I’ll adjust my handle appropriately.
OT
cle?AID=/B8/20060320/NEWS01/603200302/1002&template=B8&template=printart”>Ohio law would make it a felony to travel across state lines for abortion
via this Daily Kos diary:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/…..54/689#c51
Oil prices hit a new intraday high above $71 a barrel Tuesday a day after settling above $70 a barrel at the close of commodities trading in New York for the first time.
Wanted to point everyone to two new filings in the Libby case:
Friday, Libby filed a hurried request for an extension for submitting one of his upcoming filings (’rush of work’ don’t you know).
And Monday (yesterday), Special Counsel Fitzgerald filed a very comprehensive, thorough, and careful (not to mention diplomatic) Motion for clarification of a key portion of Judge Walton’s April 5th Opinion and Order. Fitzgerald is trying to pin down exactly how Judge Walton is interpreting ex parte filing provisions of CIPA Section 4, as regards arguments about matieriality of classified information. Personally, although carefully constructed to give Judge Walton the benefit of the doubt, I think this Motion hints at the fact that Judge Walton may be slightly over his head in the classified information procedures arena. I hope Judge Lamberth is standing by for some extra tutoring duty in this area for Judge Walton.
The last two documents in this link are the new filings in question:
http://www.udpc.org/libby.html
P.S. Today is also the filing deadline for the journalists/media corporations to comply with their Rule 17c subpoenas from Libby by producing the ‘designated items,’ or otherwise to file motions to quash or modify said subpoenas.
…the story that never dies…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..ssing_teen
who besides Al could be elected that also has some progressive views?
Kerry can’t be elected, he can’t even talk
Hillary can’t be elected, she has pissed off too many
Russ is considered a socialist by some, and he tells too much truth!
the rest are puppy biscuits that haven’t displayed any spine at all.
Al was supposed to be president, actually won if I remember right?
The best defense against global warming is high oil prices- and here they come.
At $6 per gallon for gasoline- and assumimg a corresponding increase in the cost of natural gas–we will see americans change their habits.
Pouring $100 into a gas tank- only to see it evaporate in five days will get some people’s attention. Come on oil prices!
More the merrier, as far as I’m concerned. Get a lot of them in their. And then send them to candidate boot camp to learn how to assert themselves, and then Dems and bloggers badger media mercilessly to accurately cover their critiques of Bush and GOP Congress.
Media starts to focus too much on horse race or GQ shit, then attack them daily until they stop.
If GW Bush can be sold, anything can be sold. And we have genuine goods, not a lying fraud, which is an advantage.
in there.
Even the old wooden Al would win in ‘08. If the Gore that turns out in ‘08 (from my PC to god’s ears) is the new Al, he wins in a landslide.
I have a deep respect and fondness for Russ Feingold. However, I don’t think a Jew can be elected president in America today. Russ is good enough that I’d be willing to take that chance, if America (and the world) weren’t in such desperate shape.
Besides, we need Russ in the Senate. Gore/Edwards, Gore/Clark, or some ticket like that would be better. I still hate that we lost Edwards from the Senate because of 2004.
Steady Eddie @ 12:49 pm (#68) – if you go back and read or listen to Gore’s speeches on civil liberties or the war in Iraq, he brings the same passion, intelligence, and well-pointed insights he does on the environment.
He’s not worried about sounding “responsible” on that issue right now, either. And that issue wasn’t a big deal back in 2000.
It’s certainly a mistake for anyone to think that they will win in 2008 by running against Clusterfuck- he will be on the endangered species list by then. BOTH candidates will agree that his administration was a big mistake.
The gooper candidate will say that Clusterfuck properly used conservative ideas but fucked up the execution. The dem will say that it was the wrong ideas PLUS shitty execution- and that’s about as far as you can go with the “debate”.
A Jew was elected VP in 2000.
I’ll take Algore over John Kerry if the nominee must be a rehash. But this country is a mess because it is continually run by children of priviledged Washington elite who have no idea about the struggles of real Amerrkuns. And Al Gore is a child of the elite Washington class. John Kerry refused to stand and fight off attacks on his own heroic character, so I can’t expect him to fight for anything else that matters to normal folks.
Personally, I’d go with Murtha or Feingold paired with Wes Clark as the veep.
He’s been through his wilderness years and he came out a statesman. the woodenness is gone, and he’s he’s become the best, most compelling public speaker I’ve seen in ages. He’s totally transformed. He is our best hope.
Please, Al save us from this madness.
Neel was a Gore guy for years and years and years before he was a Dean guy.
Benjoya…..Who is shrum?
Maybe Gore? Ok, it’s possible. Yet, I would encourage him to run on something other than “environment warming stuff”. That just conjures up too many images of tree huggers and veg heads. It won’t get a man elected.
As to the “wooden” comments….yeah, I know what everyone means. However, over the past several years he’s given some mighty good speeches on Iraq, deceiving us into war, the wrongs of wiretapping without court approval, and the importance of our US Constitution. I thought he was very fiery and impassioned in those speeches!
But, I think basing a whole campaign on global warming won’t get him very far.
Ghostman
Feingold is Jewish, a Yankee, he’s young, and he’s a Senator with a voting record. He will not be President in ‘09.
Survey USA out with it’s monthly survey of Clusterfuck hatred. JAR at 35.55%.
Many “red” states now below 40% in Job Approval:
http://www.surveyusa.com/50Sta…..roval.html
rwcole,
That warms the cockles of my black little heart.
shargash @ 12:55 pm (#78) – Even the old wooden Al would win in ‘08.
If he were running against GW Bush again, yes, he’d win. Of course, that’s not going to happen, and I never discount the possibility that things will look much different to people two years from now. Whoever the Republican is who is running for President will try to look as little like GWB as he can. The fact that just about all the congressmen who want to run supported him down the line won’t matter, because the press won’t think that’s important.
Old Sow:
Bob Shrum – Political Advisor
Bad
Here is a sample of the Survey linked above:
19 Kentucky Bush 39% 59% -20% KY WHAS-TV WCPO-TV
19 North Carolina Bush 39% 58% -19% NC WTVD-TV WFMY-TV
19 South Carolina Bush 39% 57% -18% SC WCSC-TV WLTX-TV
19 West Virginia Bush 39% 57% -18% WV WUSA-TV
19 Wisconsin Kerry 39% 58% -19% WI WDIO-TV
24 Arkansas Bush 38% 60% -22% AR KTHV-TV
24 Washington Kerry 38% 59% -21% WA KING-TV KATU-TV
26 Florida Bush 37% 61% -24% FL WFOR-TV WPTV-TV WFLA-TV WTLV-TV WKRG-TV
26 Oregon Kerry 37% 61% -24% OR KATU-TV
26 Virginia Bush 37% 60% -23% VA WUSA-TV WDBJ-TV
29 Colorado Bush 36% 62% -26% CO KUSA-TV
29 Minnesota Kerry 36% 61% -25% MN KSTP-TV WDIO-TV KSAX-TV KAAL-TV
29 Missouri Bush 36% 61% -25% MO KSDK-TV
29 New Hampshire Kerry 36% 61% -25% NH WBZ-TV
33 New Mexico Bush 35% 61% -26% NM KOB-TV
34 Hawaii Kerry 34% 58% -24% HI KHON-TV
34 Iowa Bush 34% 61% -27% IA KAAL-TV
34 Nevada Bush 34% 65% -31% NV KVBC-TV
34 Ohio
Ohio, Nevada, and Iowa all voted “Clusterfuck” and now are giving him a 34% JAR.
Look at Virginia,Florida Colorado, and Missouri- three other very “red” states- now giving Clusterfuck 36 and 37% ratings. Things are changing. Ohio is starting to look sane.
BobbyG at 55– LOL! Ouch! (It only hurts when I laugh.)
Oh: and EPU’d from previous thread courtesy darkblack:
http://static.flickr.com/56/13…..f8d08d.jpg
I admire Gore, but I’m not buying it. I need a better candidate than Gore. I think that they should all line up behind Feingold and help him out. Gore had three debates with Bush and was unable to undress him. Just think for a minute about how George Bush’s face would have looked after an hour in front of a crowd with Bill Clinton. There are going to be a lot of people who minimize Gore’s negatives over the next year, but he does have them, and ignoring them will not make them go away. I think we can do better.
That was the old-constrained Al Gore getting bad advice from handlers. He’s nothing like that now. When he is himself, he is utterly dynamic. I could scarcely believe it was him the last time I heard him speak. He was rip-roaring incredible.
I don’t think if he runs you’ll see that bore Gore, again.
But if he’s smart, he’ll continue to not openly say he’s considering running. Why give the bad guys a running start at picking him apart?
I adore Feingold, but I’m not sure if his mere name might not be a detraction, i.e. “Feingold? Sounds like a Jew boy.” or “You really want Jew running things while we’re so entrenched in the ME? Damn, they’ll hate us even more.”
Heck it was a big deal when a Catholic ran 40 years ago. It even came up when Lieberman ran on the VP ticket, but to a lesser extent because of the lesser role. I’d like to think we’ve come a long way, but I’ll bet with the rise of religion-based coalitions they’d really make an issue out of that and play to the fears of the not so religious, but closet bigots.
Then again, who better to balance the budget and reign in spending? [A huge just kidding] Just a reminder that stereo-typing, and religious bigotry still does exist.
Is THIS the election we want to gamble with?
Cujo 359 — the point isn’t what Gore said about anything in 2000 or before, or what was or wasn’t a big issue back then.
Your statement seemed to assert that Gore passion and willingness to be blunt was restricted to environmental issues, on which he feels passion. The point is that given his clear passion and directness on every issue on which he now speaks out, there is no basis to argue that any major part of his political persona is still in his pre-2000 election — as you termed it “responsible” — mode. What basis is there for believing that he has not been liberated across-the-board?
Now here are the sanest of the sane- states where GW Clusterfuck gets LESS than 30% Job Approval. If you are in one of these states- thank your educational system!
Illinois Kerry 29% 67% -38% IL KSDK-TV
44 New Jersey Kerry 28% 69% -41% NJ WABC-TV WCAU-TV
45 Connecticut Kerry 27% 69% -42% CT WABC-TV
45 Delaware Kerry 27% 70% -43% DE WCAU-TV
45 Vermont Kerry 27% 70% -43% VT
48 Massachusetts Kerry 26% 70% -44% MA WBZ-TV
49 New York Kerry 24% 72% -48% NY WABC-TV WNYT-TV WGRZ-TV WHEC-TV
49 Rhode Island Kerry 24% 74% -50% RI WLNE-TV
Last- and certainly least- the hall of shame- the four states where lack of education and chronic public insanity have produced a culture that gives GW Clusterfuck OVER a fifty percent JAR. If you happen to live in one of these states- consider puttin the wheels back on your house and moving on!
1 Utah Bush 55% 40% 15% UT KSL-TV
2 Wyoming Bush 54% 44% 10% WY
3 Idaho Bush 53% 43% 10% ID
4 Nebraska Bush 51% 45% 6% NE
On the other hand, do you folks think if Gore gets nominated he could win his own state this time?
Heh. I think I’ll sign on to that petition, we could use a good laugh in ‘08.
Attack Bush AND GOP Congress, and therefore all Bushites. Since Bushites have taken over GOP and neutered or drven away anything else, attack the first two and its all one. Is there a non-Bushite who has a chance in 08? Who? Let me know? McCain is trashing his non-Bushite credentials as we speak.
Steady Eddie #66:
“Of course, the campaign could be against global warming.”
Gore shouldn’t run AGAINST anything, He should run FOR the environment. Besides, global warming is irreversible. It has been going on since the peak of the ice age and will continue until the current warming trend ends. Gore can campaign for measures to reduce human impact on GW, and provide incentives for actions in this realm, but the MOST we can do is mitigate and remediate as the warming continues.
And Eddie’s right in #68 – Gore isn’t one dimensional. His two speeches, especially Cooper Union, are among the greatest speeches by an American in the past generation.
Bob Shrum was a Senior Advisor to Kerry/Edwards in 2004 and Gore/Lieberman in 2000.
‘nuf said?
SharonW @ 1:08 pm (#95) – Is THIS the election we want to gamble with?
We’ve heard that question asked by the people who ended up giving us two straight Presidential losses. Every election’s a gamble; for my part, I’m going to vote for the person who appears to be best equipped to run my country for me.
rwcole: Dare I ask where my fine state of Arkansas (transplant only, I still have all my toofers) resides on that list?
The NeoCons have already selected Hillary Clinton as their choice for the Democratic nomination. She has been selected by acclimination by the usual inside-the-beltway pundits (Matthews, Klein, etc.). This could be a reward for her faithful support for the NeoCon instigated Iraq war or it could be based on the belief that if she was elected President she would “take care” of Iran…if Bush does not get around to this part of the NeoCon agenda. What this means is that all other candidates, including Gore, need not apply. Hillary is the presumptive choice.
punaise @30 says: “Bush often has that stupid shit-eating grin on his mug. Does that make him self-decrapeating?”
Naw, the grin is anticipatory. He’s only self-defecating. For now.
Dr. Bong–Arkansas is right in the middle:
24 Arkansas Bush 38% 60% -22% AR
Its 4:20 eastern, and this is the Masturbation Room. Where images and stories around the world will be discharged at you by our corporate circle jerk, my mouth the vagina of the inner circle….
Steady Eddie @ 1:10 pm (#96) – Environmentalism was his biggest passion back in 2000, and he made the decision to sound “responsible” by not speaking freely about how he felt. That’s the point. What was left wasn’t interesting, and didn’t seem interested. If he was willing to do that about the environment back then, I see no reason to believe he won’t moderate his views now for wider consumption on any other issue. Once he starts doing that, he’ll become the old Al Gore.
Hillary’s been selected because she’s the one they want to run against – they see her as having so many issues they can attack on that a 2008 campaign with Hillary running will be the Year of the Orgasm for the GOP, as well as for the usual media suspects.
I’d rather it were the Year of the Aneurysm for the GOP…
Please, Al: We’re all ready. Get out there. Let’s reinstate the choice the country tried to make years ago.
#110….I think you’re right on target. The GOP really wants Hillary to run, and will feed the media machine to no end to get her labeled the frontrunner, with no-one else in sight. yep.
This deserves a great big rebel yell.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
41 California 30% 67% -37%
on the bubble. if Holden got poneys for
What rwcole said #39: first stop the bleeding, then treat the cancer.
That said, my only ‘08 criteria is: will the candidate be willing to offer in their Inauguration speech a clear, public, direct repudiation of the preceding eight years–including the various new “presidential powers”?
If I think so, I could support them. If I think not–whether through timidity or corruption–then the answer is no. And I don’t think many of the (centrist) usual suspects would be likely to offer that repudiation.
Art Shu’s got the slogan:
re-elect al gore.
al gore would be an excellent democratic candidate
and an even better president.
gore has tremendous experience,
the intellect, and
the political personality
to make an exceptional president.
put another way,
al gore has every presidential quality that george bush lacks
and more.
re-elect al gore!
110
Anne, your ism is showing.
The beltway neo-con pundits have annointed Hilary because, from their point of view, she would be the easiest Dem candidate to run a Atwater-Rove style campaign against; that is the only kind of campaign they can run.
The last thing they want is to deal with is a Dem who speaks from the gut (something I have never seen Hilary do) – AND – is courageous, intelligent, sane and articulate.
punaise – couldn’t help myself…
“The one they want to run against”
It’s nothing that sane. It’s pathological. They HATE Hillary with every fiber of their being. Every tiny little vistigual brain cell gets a micro second of life when they hear her name mentioned. They fear her as they fear the giant cosmic vagina that threatens to envelope them and choke the life back out of their disfigured bodies. They are convinced that she will run and that unless they stay true to their cause- no matter how stupid- they will be robbed of life itself.
How about Gore – Edwards? Edwards has great passion on economic issues, while Gore has solid environmental and foreign policy experience. Plus they’re both realative moderates (even through the repubs would label George Wallace a hopeless liberal if he ran as a Democrat). Mikee likes it!
Well done rebel yell, countryjoe!
Been with the “Re-elect Al Gore” meme for months. Said so before on FDL.
But, I do agree with others that it would be very important as to who he chooses as advisors.
And, I wasn’t particularly knowledgeable about Lieberman until I started reading all about him re: the Lamont campaign at FDL. So, FDLers fill me in- why did Gore choose Lieberman as running mate? In retrospect seems like a very bad choice. I’d want to know he would be savvier on that account.
huh? what good has Bush accomplished – ever?
I’ve thought about this a lot and I’ve come up with one single item: Shut down the US bases in Saudi Arabia. Have I missed any? Is this mistaken?
As much as I like Al Gore and wish him well, the time to fight was in December 2000. Now is too late me thinks.
Read this quote from growing chorus of warmongers on the right. A harpie known as Monica Crowley has laid out the fear factor. Just how many people who were roped into Iraq will buy the same bill of goods again? Well, probably as many people who call into vote on American Idol.
Polish your trumpets and put on some black clothes, the funeral march is heading this way.
The exchange between Monica Crowley and Joe Scarborough.
“Joe: …Monica, is there any possibility that the Iranian leaders that are in charge right now would ever be so irrational as to launch a nuclear attack on cities like Los Angeles, New York, Washington, D.C., if they got this nuclear device?”
“Monica: Unequivocally, yes, Joe. And in fact, the hypothetical scenario that you just laid out, that hypothetic ground zero is just a few blocks from where I am sitting here tonight. So, it is an incredibly frightening scenario and absolutely within the realm of possibility given the nature of the regime we‘re talking about. This Tehran regime covers the terrorist Trifecta. They do have weapons of mass destruction, possibly even nuclear at this point. They export terror and they do support al Qaeda.”
-GSD
Al Gore is the last, best hope of our generation,and perhaps this country. Sign me up with enthusiasm! Please Mr Gore, for the sake of our country…RUN!
Getting Gore into the ‘08 races has to happen very, very soon. Politicians have already started their ‘08 campaignes here in Iowa.
Thanks pow wow,
Will you be posting all the filings as they come?
“I don’t think a Jew can be elected president in America today.”
It appears the really well-connected Jews aspire to a completely different kind of “leadership.”
In today’s Salon.com:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/200…..print.html
Here is how the Draft Wes Clark got started!
http://www.draftwesleyclark.com/defaultold_red.htm
I’d vote for Gore. Again.
It’s kind of sick and frighteningly ironic that at this juncture in time there is a discussion about a sane adult’s concern for the gradual warming of our planet’s atmosphere from ‘civilization’s’ excesses when the insane child that usurped the former’s legitimate claim to governance and diplomacy is hellbent on warming the atmosphere himself.
Any day now.
Over Iran.
With nukes.
Where is a responsible adult when you need them?
I wish I could support Al Gore 100% if he ran in 2008. He has been great recently at giving speeches that go to the core of our problem. But then he is able to go back to his ‘life.’ In a campaign it would be 24/7 attack from the republicans and he would have to respond just as quickly. Not by getting mad, but by telling the truth and dismissing his critics as people who like what Bush has done for our country. gag gag
If he can fight back without appearing rancorous, then he would be the best choice by far. I am ‘rancorous, mad as hell, and would let my anger get in the way.
hmmm, got cut off by the “less than” sign:
…if Holden got poneys for less than 40%, what rewards do 30% bring?
Al Gore, I like him but isn’t he the guy that left Clinton out to dry, choose Joe Lieberman as a running mate and conceded to this administration when he should have fought tooth and nail for the votes we gave him and to prevent what’s happened now over the past five years. It’s possible he could have fought and won and the world would be different, what about this time.
Valley Girl – The reason Gore picked Lieberman is because of the Lewinsky – impeachment nightmare. Old Joe spoke out against Clinton on the Senate floor, cementing his piety and “family values” quotients. That’s what Gore thought he needed to inoculate him over the Lewinsky scandal.
GrandmaJ: we are the ranc(ourous) and file.
#135
is that a good thing?
Whoever gets elected in 2008 will be a political hack of one of the two common brands. There are few heroes in politics- and none of them are electable.
The goal is to vote for the person who will do the least damage.
#135: It seemed like it at the time. Looking back on it, NO.
Gore/Edwards…not so much. The ticket doesn’t need TWO Southern boys. And, frankly, Gore (at his best) would make Edwards look like more of a pretty-boy lightweight than he actually is. Odd as it is to say, they both deserve better.
Gore/Clark…now you’re talking. The military has been hardcore GOP since Vietnam; but they are currently decamping from Bush in the kind of schism that happens only once in a lifetime.
Even so, though, they’re not really feeling the love for the Dems yet. Putting Clark on the ticket, and having him (and Murtha) out there talking turkey about military issues, would give the troops a reason to make a home in the Democratic party.
Gore/Feingold…it just makes me all warm to think about it. Russ would probably do a lot to keep Al from giving into the consultants and turning all electionbot on us again. He’d give the ticket the ballast it needs to stay real. And it would be great to have a sane, sensible Midwesterner in the Executive again — been a long while.
you all know there’s a new thread, right?
moi -
My pleasure. That’s not my website hosting the filings, but I think it posts quite a few of them, and so do talkleft.com, and some others. I think Jeralyn at talkleft will be following up on the subpoena developments, FYI.
And folks, let’s not forget THE SUPREME COURT…we CANNOT lose another seat to a hard-line conservative masquerading as a constitutional scholar.
2006 and 2008: Must wins, both.
Thanks for the heads up, I’ll check Jeralyn’s tonight.
our boy sure was busy yesterday.
And here’s the webpage from talkleft.com that lists all their posts about the Libby case (click on a post to see the embedded links to pdf filings, where applicable):
http://talkleft.com/new_archiv…..tment.html
Gore-anyone but Lieberman sounds like a good ticket to me….
Wow, thanks!
I’m going over there now, supper can wait.
i’m with 105 on hillary: another yale rule-the-world club member bought and paid for by avaricious corporate pigs at the trough, cancerous with neocon disease. leiberman in a dress (or republican pastel pantsuit). another venal warmongering thug. fuck hillary clinton.
gore/feingold.
I know this will be epu’d but definitely Gore.
I can see why Mr. Gore is being somewhat open ended about the “president question”. If he told the media and others unequivocably now that he is never running again, his lectures on climate change more than likely wouldn’t be as full, and promoting this movie would more than likely be harder to do. Hiring Mr. Neal just as this movie is set to be released is now spiking up speculation ( no surprise) which will lead to more people being interested in the movie. It really doesn’t prove he is running, but it sure is a brilliant tactic… especially regarding getting to those who can’t think beyond the political talking points.
That is just the way of it, as we also see here that diaries containing speculation get noticed, while diaries discussing this movie and issue based on it merits alone (and promoting the movie based on a true caring for the issue) without all the speculation attached get almost no mention or notice. Kind of makes you wonder how many people really care about this issue without being able to infer something other from it than what it may well be. The media is even covering his appearances more because of the crumbs he has laid out for them to follow regarding this issue by flirting with it. So I suppose if he can capitalize on that in order to get this information out, more power to him. Besides it is owed him in my opinion.
And while I do not believe Mr. Gore will run in 08, I can see the brilliance of his response to the president question in this manner which must get asked of him hundreds of times every day. I also can believe it may actually hurt him at times to think that people only go to these lectures because they think he is going to run for president, instead of really taking an interest in what he is doing…but if it brings some converts to the cause of fighting this crisis, I say use it.
Many of us do care about his talks regarding global warming and see this is his passion and that is evident in this presentation. His talking about the acidification of our oceans which is a very serious problem as it effects coral reefs and other species, and also the current water crisis in this world that we are facing is also very necessary now. Desalinasion will become an option not of choice but of necessity should this crisis continue at this pace. What will we do if we cannot even use this water after this process because of how we continue to spew massive amounts of CO2 into our air (which causes the acidification of our oceans) and pollutants and toxins into our water without giving it a thought? We need men like Al Gore out here to continue to inform and inspire people on this issue. It is unfortunate however, that so many people don’t even want to hear about this unless there is some juicy political gossip attached to it.
So if flirting with people regarding this will get some others out to begin what really needs to be done on this issue, well, more power to him.
God, I hope Al Gore runs in ‘08. I’ve known Gore for 25 years. There is no better man; there is no better prepared man to lead this country.
And he’s for universal health care. There is no better GOTV issue.
Damn my stupid day job! By the time I come across anything I want to add my two cents worth to, I’m 150 places down the thread…
Anyway, at the risk of offending many of you, I have this to say: Gore in 2008? Please don’t make me laugh. I know that he’s done a fabulous job of reinventing himself, of being his own man and less a Saturday Night Live parody of himself now that his campaign handlers are not controlling his every move. But he will be in the grip of these very same handlers the minute he decides to run again, and they will be doing their level best to make him bland and unthreatening to the status quo (such as it is)… in short, to turn him back into Al Gore, circa 2000. If he didn’t have the spine then to stand up to his handlers, his own staff, and be his own man, what kind of President do you honestly think he’d make? He’d be scarcely less of a puppet than Bush is now. I was particularly disappointed in his craven attempts to distance himself from Clinton during that campaign; as far as I’m concerned he failed the integrity test big time right there. And as a musician and artist, I’ll never, ever forgive Tipper Gore and her ilk for their “dirty lyrics make kids commit rape and murder†nonsense 20 years ago. I’d sooner eat glass than have her as First Lady.
With the way Bush is sodomizing the Constitution, getting our soldiers killed and plunging the nation into one ever-worsening crisis after another, Gore is certainly a more appealing choice by comparison. (Hell, my half-blind Wheaten Terrier would make a better President.) And it’s not like the Dems have a whole lot to choose from — I’m with whoever said Hillary would be the Republicans’ dream opponent, and Lieberman may as well just make it official and switch parties now. But resurrecting Al Gore smacks of desperation. Surely we can do better.
Okay, I’ll take my beatdown now, if anyone’s still on this thread. I don’t have to be back at work for another hour.
He was wonderful in his MLK Day speech, too. Have you seen his photo on the cover of the Green issue of Vanity Fair? Wow! Be still my heart!
Heh! This is fabulous news!
I will line up right behind the man. I thought he would have made a great president the first time he was elected and I still think so. He is the one man who understands and has credibility on the environment, which we desperately need right now.
Al Gore is just what the country needs right now! I like Wes Clark, too. Gore/Clark in ‘08!
Gore/Clinton for 08!
Gore/Clark is ok with me, too. Or Gore/Feingold!
I wish I could agree – but Gore, has proven to be all bark and no bite when it comes to a showdown. I believe that Feingold needs to step up to the plate, ideally after the November elections, and come out swinging.
I could be wrong…in much the same way as I was in 00 and 04.
There’s a good article by Ezra Klein (TTFD, thanks for the interview link above) in the recent American Prospect Online. At Big Ink, I noted that Gore is light years ahead (among politicians at least) in grasping the inevitable new paradigm of interactivity in the media. Trippi (I know, I know) says that with the online infrastructure Gore has already built, the money will be there if he runs. He hasn’t really tapped into the netroots yet (see Kos’ quote in the story), but the chatter out here is starting to sound serious.
The history is appealing, but one thing we don’t know is how Gore would play with the majority who voted for Bush over Kerry when they’re voting for some new GOP candidate who has less baggage. Also, should he take another crack at it, the swiftboating will be insane. Whoever goes up against the Wurlitzkrieg has to be on offense from Minute 1 and leave no shenanigans unexposed. In truth, we should already be building a “GOP lies during campaigns” meme. (Which shouldn’t be hard considering they lie the rest of the time too.) The takedown of Post turtle Ben is maybe a small part of that, but this should be a major plank in the siege of ‘08.
Right now, Al Gore is showing his leadership outside the political arena and I believe he is hoping that the sparks he emits will light a grass-roots fire that bypasses the modern media organs of the print and electronic press that will focus on the issues before the personalities. Once folks begin to cogitate on the issues, the natural progression of the debate will lead right to Al Gore’s door as the best person to bring about the changes he/we seek.
Whether he thinks he is right for the job is not the issue, he recognizes that many, vocal others will have to believe that for him to announce his candidacy. Gore has spent several years now in an attempt to create a process whereby anyone can bypass the MSM and address the issues and affect change untainted by the defractory distortions inherent in the MSM.
I believe Al Gore will run for president, but only if he recognizes that he has massive support for his positions on the environment, national security, tax policies, and trade.
We cannot wait for him to decide to run. We, if we support his causes as our own are going to have to show him how much we care about those issues and need him to run so those positions can be borne out as executive policy.
I have done so in my emails and letters to him, but I am just one person.
“The best leaders are those the people hardly know exist.
The next best is a leader who is loved and praised.
Next comes the one who is feared.
The worst one is the leader that is despised.
If you don’t trust the people,
they will become untrustworthy.
The best leaders value their words, and use them sparingly.
When she has accomplished her task,
the people say, “Amazing:
we did it, all by ourselves!”
Chapter 17, “TAO TE CHING” Lao Tzu
Al Gore is a “best leader,” but I still hope he leads America from the White House in 2009.
Gray 158
Gore/Clinton
That is the ticket I think has the best chance to win. Gore can has the credibility on many issues (including terrorism), and Hillary will bring tons of women and minorities to the polls. ‘08 will be all about turnout.
The only better ticket would be . . . Gore/Clinton. Can a former twice-elected Pres. be elected VP? I seem to remember something that prevents that, but hey, a guy can dream.
wishful thinking indeed. but northrup, boeing, ratheon, and their war financing buddies will determine who becomes president. There’s no turning back now, it’s over
He is the most qualified person to run the country right now. He has the judgment (making the right call on the war when he was spitting into the political wind), experience, intelligence and determinantion.
Our country needs him, as we have some huge problems that need a super talented person like Gore to fix.
I would vote for him in a second and strongly prefer him over Sen. Clinton, whom I like and admire.
No offence, but just what we need…another insider.
Al Gore all the way but only if Bob Shrum is exiled to the the North Pole.
benjoya says:
April 18th, 2006 at 12:33 pm
gore w/o shrum – i’m there, ready to travel to swing states.
gore w/shrum – not one dime or minute of my time.
Agreed.
the repulikooks have slashed and burned their way through the political life of this country
so entirely that they may well be banished from the whitepeople house and the house of representatives for a generation.
gore would probably make a good Decider.
so:GORE FOR DECIDER;FEINGOLD FOR DECIDER IN RESERVE
why not the other way around? lots of voters would be more comfortable with the menorah merrily twinkling from the Decider in Reserve’s front window than from the front window of the whitepeople house
Maybe it’s just a coincidence, but if Gore WERE running for president again, this is perfectily timed and brilliantly strategerized. (past tense of ’strategery’)
Get over yourselves about Gore. We’ll shut him down again again. McCain/Jeb in 2008, Dan for WH Director of Communications!!!
I still have a Gore bumpersticker on my car. Maybe you think I’m living in the past. If we’re going to have a future that is where we need to look. Someone who is tried and true. He has everything that NO Republican candidate could possibly bring to the arena. I too have known Al for many years. Visited him in DC when he was my Rep, talked to him as a Senator and seen him on the campaign trail. He is not wooden. He is funny and sweet and one of the most intelligent and thoughtful men I’ve ever known. His family is just precious and we already know what little dust they will toss at him during a campaign.I’m still kicking myself for not working harder for him. I can only imagine what his family went through during the campaign and it’s aftermath. Two words here: Intelligence and Integrity