Comments on: Are We Already at War in Iran? http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:52:16 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Liz_Dexic http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/#comment-69772 Liz_Dexic Mon, 17 Apr 2006 22:29:55 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/#comment-69772 <p>My Iranian hairdresser just got back from Iran and said that US troops are there.</p> My Iranian hairdresser just got back from Iran and said that US troops are there.

]]> By: Phoenix Woman http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/#comment-69688 Phoenix Woman Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:17:00 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/#comment-69688 <p>Chris: Even <a href="http://www.justinlogan.com/justinlogancom/2006/04/cordesman_and_a.html">Anthony Cordesman</a> (who as a former military advisor to John McCain, is not exactly a liberal) says that Iran can’t do diddly as far as nuclear weapons are concerned.</p> <p>In fact, while Iran’s president is currently trading asinine chest-thumping statements with Bush, the reality is that he’s a figurehead — <a href="http://www.juancole.com/2006/04/iran-can-now-make-glowing-mickey-mouse.html">the real power in Iran is held by mullahs like Khameinei, and they’re all against nuclear weapons as contrary to Islam.</a></p> <p>Meanwhile: <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-feinstein15apr15,0,7075952.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions">Dianne Feinstein is telling Bush that his inflammatory rhetoric isn’t helping matters any.</a></p> Chris: Even Anthony Cordesman (who as a former military advisor to John McCain, is not exactly a liberal) says that Iran can’t do diddly as far as nuclear weapons are concerned.

In fact, while Iran’s president is currently trading asinine chest-thumping statements with Bush, the reality is that he’s a figurehead — the real power in Iran is held by mullahs like Khameinei, and they’re all against nuclear weapons as contrary to Islam.

Meanwhile: Dianne Feinstein is telling Bush that his inflammatory rhetoric isn’t helping matters any.

]]> By: LittlePig http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/#comment-69561 LittlePig Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:05:01 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/#comment-69561 <p><i>Jane: should I beg Morris to be “reasonableâ€? Argue with him on whether or not I have the right to live and the US the right to exist? Or consider the question beneath contempt and damn him for his moral treason?</i></p> <p>No Chris. You should ask yourself why you are so irrationally afraid. Lots of people (many within the United States) promote killing or deporting liberals (Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter come to mind). Yet, I am not demanding military action against the scary bad people.</p> <p>So attempt to incite by asking for “reason” and compain against emotional outburst. Yet yours is the position grounded in unreasoning fear. No doubt you were terrified of Saddam Hussein. I never was, since I never heard anything about Iraq’s ICBM program (mostly because there isn’t one), nor am I hearing about an Iranian ICBM now. There is no threat to the U.S. here, except in your fearful mind.</p> Jane: should I beg Morris to be “reasonableâ€? Argue with him on whether or not I have the right to live and the US the right to exist? Or consider the question beneath contempt and damn him for his moral treason?

No Chris. You should ask yourself why you are so irrationally afraid. Lots of people (many within the United States) promote killing or deporting liberals (Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter come to mind). Yet, I am not demanding military action against the scary bad people.

So attempt to incite by asking for “reason” and compain against emotional outburst. Yet yours is the position grounded in unreasoning fear. No doubt you were terrified of Saddam Hussein. I never was, since I never heard anything about Iraq’s ICBM program (mostly because there isn’t one), nor am I hearing about an Iranian ICBM now. There is no threat to the U.S. here, except in your fearful mind.

]]> By: mui http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/#comment-69391 mui Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:45:17 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/#comment-69391 <p>To the critical commenter. “emotional irrationalism” = venting. It’s human & normal. Once emotions are out on the table for examination, it’s easier to be “logical.” Should we be crippled?</p> To the critical commenter. “emotional irrationalism” = venting. It’s human & normal. Once emotions are out on the table for examination, it’s easier to be “logical.” Should we be crippled?

]]> By: mui http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/#comment-69384 mui Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:29:55 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/#comment-69384 <p>Don’t know if anyone else from CT saw this. Chris Dodd calling for Rumsfeld’s resignation: (paraphrase) Rumsefeld is “past tense.” We are not doing well in Iraq or “in Iran.” O.K. so that was a jolt. Slip of the tongue?<br /> I am trying to control my emotions to be able to formulate some letters.</p> Don’t know if anyone else from CT saw this. Chris Dodd calling for Rumsfeld’s resignation: (paraphrase) Rumsefeld is “past tense.” We are not doing well in Iraq or “in Iran.” O.K. so that was a jolt. Slip of the tongue?
I am trying to control my emotions to be able to formulate some letters.

]]> By: markfromireland http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/#comment-69361 markfromireland Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:48:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/#comment-69361 <p>Canuckjourno - spot on.</p> Canuckjourno – spot on.

]]> By: markfromireland http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/#comment-69353 markfromireland Mon, 17 Apr 2006 08:03:53 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/#comment-69353 <p>Jane thanks for deleting comment No:153 For those coming late to this thread this comment:</p> <blockquote><p> DMM says:<br /> April 16th, 2006 at 5:49 pm</p> <p>Sorry folks,that slipped out.My apoligies</p> </blockquote> <p>Is <strong>NOT</strong> the racist comment I was complaining about. The comment numbers moved around when the original 153 was deleted.</p> Jane thanks for deleting comment No:153 For those coming late to this thread this comment:

DMM says:
April 16th, 2006 at 5:49 pm

Sorry folks,that slipped out.My apoligies

Is NOT the racist comment I was complaining about. The comment numbers moved around when the original 153 was deleted.

]]> By: calguy http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/#comment-69331 calguy Mon, 17 Apr 2006 06:58:39 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/#comment-69331 <p>In analogy to Hitchcock’s suspense thrillers, Iran’s nuclear program (much as Iraq’s) is the McGuffin, the item that helps to anchor the story but not really the main point. The bombing of Iran serves several strategic aims, hopefully cementing republican power in the short term (not sure that will work) but certainly cementing American hegemony over the oil regions of the mideast in the long term.</p> In analogy to Hitchcock’s suspense thrillers, Iran’s nuclear program (much as Iraq’s) is the McGuffin, the item that helps to anchor the story but not really the main point. The bombing of Iran serves several strategic aims, hopefully cementing republican power in the short term (not sure that will work) but certainly cementing American hegemony over the oil regions of the mideast in the long term.

]]> By: Podkopayeva http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/#comment-69323 Podkopayeva Mon, 17 Apr 2006 06:32:30 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/#comment-69323 <p>I will mention petitions. I think they will help encourage the Generals to continue their PR coup and maybe encourage anyone in a position to stop this horror or to refuse to obey an unConstitutional oreder from a madman.</p> <p>Please copy this link and send it to everyone you know:<br /> <a href="http://www.dontattackiran.org">http://www.dontattackiran.org</a></p> <p>Please ask Congress to instruct Bush and Cheney not to attack Iran: Email Congress.</p> <p>Please stay involved by joining these organizations:</p> <p>Gold Star Families for Peace</p> <p>CODE PINK…</p> <p><a href="http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/iran">http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/iran</a><br /> Sign Petition Opposing Attack on Iran<br /> Submitted by davidswanson on Mon, 2006-04-10 20:23.<br /> [This Petition and signatures and comments will be delivered to the White House by many activists, including Cindy Sheehan.]</p> I will mention petitions. I think they will help encourage the Generals to continue their PR coup and maybe encourage anyone in a position to stop this horror or to refuse to obey an unConstitutional oreder from a madman.

Please copy this link and send it to everyone you know:
http://www.dontattackiran.org

Please ask Congress to instruct Bush and Cheney not to attack Iran: Email Congress.

Please stay involved by joining these organizations:

Gold Star Families for Peace

CODE PINK…

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/iran
Sign Petition Opposing Attack on Iran
Submitted by davidswanson on Mon, 2006-04-10 20:23.
[This Petition and signatures and comments will be delivered to the White House by many activists, including Cindy Sheehan.]

]]> By: Larry http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/#comment-69248 Larry Mon, 17 Apr 2006 03:21:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/16/are-we-already-at-war-with-iran/#comment-69248 <p>canuckjourno…..</p> <p>finger on button….? Maybe one of those Easy Buttons from Staples</p> <p>BS</p> canuckjourno…..

finger on button….? Maybe one of those Easy Buttons from Staples

BS

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