
(tonight's guest poster is SZ from World O'Crap)
After Ann Coulter was criticized for referring to Arabs as "rag heads" in her speech before the Conservative Political Action Conference, the chairman of the Michigan GOP (which had hired Ann to do a fundraiser for them later that month) praised Ann's presentation as "motivational." He added that he while he didn't condone her racial slur, it was just part of her "schtick as a commentator," and she had merely "excited the troops, threw them a lot of red meat."
In the bigotosphere, you can get red meat bigotry to rival that of Ann from such sites as the comments sections of LittleGreenFootballs and Lucianne.com. However, as the esteemed writers who have contributed previously to this series have pointed out, most conservative bloggers and online columnists at least partially cook their bigotry, and then try to disguise its flavor with some ketchup or a big splash of cheap booze.
Along that line, I thought maybe tonight we could take a look at some of the Salisbury Steak-made-from-rancid-horsemeat bigotry to be found at Townhall.com, that "one-stop mall of ideas" which until recently was part of the Heritage Foundation (and which presumably still gets its share of that sweet, sweet Scaife/Coors loot).
While Townhall features a smorgasbord of conservative bigotry, ranging from the Cheeze-Whiz covered meat of Jonah Goldberg to the chipped-beef-on-white-rice of Michelle Malkin, (and, of course, the juicy, red, meat of Ann Coulter herself), let's just look at two of Townhall's most popular columnists, Dr. Mike Adam. Ph.D., and Pastor Doug Giles, and sample some of the favors of the meat they serve up.
First, both are famous for their Carl's Jr.-style manly hamburgers for guys who are too stupid to feed themselves, and who hate and fear women (or "feminists," as the boys label them). Each guy has produced a six-part series on the subject of how hairy-legged, men-hating, family-destroying, fat, ugly, Marxist feminists are icky and stuff: Dr. Mike's is called "Why I Don't Take Feminism Seriously," while Pastor Doug's is the informative "Raising Boys that Feminists Will Hate" (which apparently means raising a-holes).
Dr. Mike begins Part One of "Why I don’t take feminists seriously" by making the brilliant point that "Daisy" sounds like a stripper's name:
Dear Daisy: First of all, let me tell you how thrilled I am to receive hate mail from a feminist named “Daisy.” I can’t think of many names – with the possible exceptions of Coco, Mercedes, and Jasmine – that could make you sound less like a feminist and more like a stripper in a club that offers two-dollar table dances.
Yeah, anybody named Daisy should abandon feminism and take up her predestined role as a two-dollar lap dancer.
In Part Two, Dr. Mike accuses feminists of "not caring about racism" because they don't say anything about how black and Hispanic women get proportionately more abortions than white women do. (Dr. Mike presumably agrees with fellow Townhaller Jennifer Roback Morse that poor black women are having too many illegitimate babies, but, like Dr. Jennifer, he would probably say that the solution is for them to stop having sex, not to allow them to have legal abortions.)
And in Part Six, Mike explains how he was just trying to help an "anti-war feminist" (I guess he could tell she was a feminist by the fact that she disagreed with something he supported) when he told her that:
If she would shave her armpits, people would be more likely to read her anti-war sign when she held it up. As it stood, people were just staring at her hairy armpits.
As Dr. Mike's erectile dysfunction was caused by feminists (in particular, a feminist in wearing an anti-Bush T-shirt and "leather combat boots and dog collar," and another group of feminists who chanted "vagina, vagina" at him), you will have to excuse his prejudices.
Pastor Doug's columns about "raising a boy that feminists will hate" is full of equally insightful observations about the castrating power of women (AKA feminists).
Here's a thought from Part Three:
FYI to mothers and fathers of boys: it is open season on your son in our gyno-centric culture, and the feminists are pushing hard for a no-closed season and no-bag limit. ... The feminists and the men who have yielded up their private parts to the lesbians—I mean feminists—have an organized system of male hatred that they just can’t wait to slap your son with.
And here's a pensee from Part Six:
If you live in the U.S. and you’re a woman or an effeminate guy, then you’ve got to be happier than a hog in fresh mud, because our current culture has been crafted just for you, baby. ... The “ladies” that I have a particular problem with are the fecal-fuming feminuts who have a Paul Bunyan sized axe to grind against masculinity and who have boldly worked their man hatred into the main stream media, into our universities and within the church. It is these woMEN whom I, along with millions of other “non progressive” traditional guys and girls, find extremely nauseating
Basically, all women who don't agree with Mike and Doug are feminists, and all feminists are lesbians (and all lesbians hate men, and are out to destroy your sons)! It's a conspiracy, I tell ya!
And speaking of those danged effeminate guys (AKA poofsters) and their homosexual agenda, Dr. Mike and Doug hate them too.
At his web site, Dr. Mike explains why:
Any man who allows another man to sodomize him is full of self-loathing. If he is the inserter (rather than the insertee) and prefers to immerse his private parts in fecal matter, he is, perhaps, even more self-loathing. That is why when confronted with any question about, or challenge towards, his conduct he merely screams “you’re gay!” at anyone who will not help him to justify that conduct. That is the reason why gay men are seen by many as the angriest people in our society (with the possible exception of feminists).
Yeah, it's because of the sodomy that gay men and feminists always seem to be getting mad at Dr. Mike.
In a column entitled "Reading, Writing and Homosexuality?," Doug tells us that it's not okay for high school kids to be okay with being gay, because this is a democracy.
The pro-gay propaganda and politically correct thought-control spawned by a few, a VERY FEW liberal deconstructionists ought to be radically and unendingly challenged by the 95-plus percent of Americans who think homosexuality is wrong. Parents, teachers and students with beliefs fundamentally different from those of the homosexual proselytizers invading OUR public school system, should make a loud noise about our dissenting views.
We're the majority and the last time I checked, the majority still rules in the USA.
Do 95%-plus of Americans really believe that gay teens should be taught that they are defective, sinful, and despicable? Well, since Doug was writing an opinion piece, I guess his guess is as good as factual evidence.
Lastly, let's take a quick look at what Mike and Doug have to say about illegal alien Mexicans, and how their columns seem to reflect the undercooked carne that is so typical of the conservative blogosphere.
In a column lauding the Minutemen (they were finalists in Townhall's "Citizen of the Year" awards), Dr. Mike explains that he has good reason to hate illegals. See, back when he was in high school, Mike friend Bubba was stabbed after he got in the middle of a knife fight. And the guy who stabbed him wasn't just a pissed-off young hood, he was an illegal! From Mexico!!! And the knife wasn't just a knife, it was a switchblade! It was all like something out of West Side Story.
But fortunately, one of Mike's other friends was a vigilante, and he got justice for Bubba, which is why groups like the Minutemen are so cool. But sadly, liberals just don't understand, as Dr. Mike illustrates by recounting his imaginary conversation with a made-up Democrat:
Democrat: I’m sorry to interrupt, but could you just tell me one bad thing a so-called illegal alien has done to justify your opposition to opening our borders to them? Could you just name one thing?
Adams: (recounts the 1982 stabbing incident).
Democrat: (rolls his eyes and shrugs his shoulders).
Adams: Wait a second. I just described to you a horrific act of violence committed against an innocent 18 year old – one that almost cost him his life – and all you can do is shrug your shoulders? Do you mean to say you don’t care? What if the act of violence was rape? What if the victim was your daughter? Would you care then?
Democrat: But all illegal aliens aren’t criminals.
Adams: Yes they are.
Democrat: How so?
Adams: Do you have a dictionary handy?
Yeah, what if brown guy raped YOUR daughter?
And that's why we must all join the Minutemen.
Now, here's some advice to from Doug's "Open Letter to Illegal Immigrants":
Let me address mi amigos that want to move into our amazing Land-O-Plenty: Would you mind immigrating legally and learning English? Because, you see, our legal citizens are getting increasingly fed up with your criminal relocation dreams. That’s right. Our American buddies on the Arizona, California, New Mexico and Texas borders are especially sick of . . .
• Having to pick up your pill bottles, used needles and syringes.
• Having to find the half eaten remains of their pets left from one of your impromptu BBQ’s.
• Having their homes burglarized.
• Having their daughters raped.
• Having their vehicles stolen.
• Having their property value plummet.
• Having their sedate streets become unsafe requiring their children to be placed under lock and key after sunset.
• Having to pick up and discard Muslim prayer rugs and literature strafed about the place. [BTW . . . when did so many Catholic Mexicans convert to Islam? I didn’t get that brief. Would you explain that to me?]
• Having the arduous and unpleasant chore of scraping human feces off their front lawns in the morning.
Yeah, we only want Mexicans to immigrate legally and learn English so they will stop eating our pets, stealing our stuff, raping our daughters, pooping on our lawns, making our property values drop, and converting to Islam. Otherwise, we think very highly of our hardworking, religious, family-oriented neighbors to the South.
Anyway, I think that's enough meat for today. I hope none of you get trichinosis or salmonella from our little visit to Doug and Mike's buffet.
Previous posts in the series:
Right Wing Racism: Steve Sailer by Armando
Educating Wolfie by Pam Spaulding
Let’s Go Real Far Right… by Matt Stoller
Tramsmitting Extremism by David Neiwert
The Fork in the Road — The Right and Race Online by Steve Gilliard
Late Night FDL: A Thin Candy-Coat of Legitimacy by TBogg
What Lies Beneath by Matt O.
Breaking The Code by Digby
Racist Crusaders Advocate Holy War: The Connection Between Racism, RedState, and the War on Terror by Red Dan
Principia Wingnuttia by Gavin M.
Fear and Loathing in the Nuttersphere by Kevin K.
See If You Can Figure Out What Malkin Is Saying by Christy Hardin Smith
Matt O. has also been compiling racist quotes from right-wing websites over at The Great Society.
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fitz…
Fitz today, Fitz tommarah, Fitz fo’evah!
Wow, with all that food, it looks like a “happy Fitz-ies party”
SZ thanks so much. Those Clown Hall creeps are supposed to be the “legitimate” face of the right wing blogosphere. The’re quite nearly as crazy as the LGFers, and possibly more dangerous because they assume some mantle of “authority” (which, as we know, the wingnuts love).
Thanks for the dumpster diving. ROFLMAO.
Bedtime for me, but there might be a midnight snack later after scoping that graphic. Then the heartburn can keep me commenting all night.
Somewhat more on-topic, Town Hall’s funding is pretty opaque, no? IIRC, isn’t Mr. Scaife getting divorced? I wonder if this collection of columnists could pay it’s own way.
Most homophobes, fearing rape, insist on eating corn at every meal.
Who are the intellectual heavyweights of the right wing Bush supporting racist crowd?
Another dumb question: What does IIRC mean?
oh my, I hope the other night’s meat conspiracy person doesn’t see that grafix! ;>)
Thank you, SZ, I never go to Clown Haul, and now I remember why. Goodness, all those Mexicans are Muslims as well? Now I’m really afraid, and I don’t even have a daughter to be raped or a front lawn to be pooped on. Lord, the juvenility!
#8: if i recall correctly.
Thank you , TeddySanFran #10.
Just an aside here. I used to belong to an MSN group that eventually got taken off because of right wingnuts. Occasionally, one of the posters would have a link to LGF. Because I was really new at that time, I clicked the link and was somehow clicked through to the IDF website. No idea how, nor am I particularly worried about it. Just one of those crazy web based things. LOL
So, Jane, have you decided in what format you’ll present this burgeoning and eclectic collection of filth to Leslie Blitzer? This was all started as an educational toy for Wolfie, no?
Send a disc in the mail, in a hazardous waste container, and tied with a very white ribbon.
BC @ 8 it means “If I Recall Correctly”
Good article SZ - quite a few laughs in there. I have a couple of comments. First this sentence could use one less preposition:
Now, here’s some advice to from Doug’s “Open Letter to Illegal Immigrants”:
Second, I used to work for a government agency that has an office in a border town.
Let’s just say that the folks down there are mighty creeped out by the idea that there are illegal immigrants wandering around there all the time. Since the illegals tend to be low on water and food, I don’t entirely blame them. I’d be creeped out if I lived down there. It’s fairly common practice, I’m told, for people to leave food and water out on their porches or somewhere else near their houses when they’re away so that illegals don’t break in to steal food or water.
There’s some hatred down there, but it’s at least partly due to people’s being rightly afraid of the situation. That doesn’t make it any prettier, but it’s one thing to deal with hatred based on someone’s stupid notion of people they’ve never met, and it’s another thing to deal with hatred backed by genuine fear.
watching Operation:Dreamland on IFC … folks should make sure they see this …
There was a sound bite on the news from one of the milita types who was railing on and on about the “illegals”. His money quote was: “We don’t even know what diseases these people have.”
Well, in the run up to the election, we can look forward to 8 months of irrational immigrant bashing and add in some nice homophobia, a little flag burning and a dose of anti-abortion nuttery.
We may end up wishing the apocalpyse hits sooner with all of the shit that will be flying.
-GSD
Somewhat more on-topic, Town Hall’s funding is pretty opaque, no?
As far as I’ve been able to tell, they’re still the Heritage Foundation, only with a false veneer of independence tacked on to help skirt the rules against partisanship and electioneering by nonpofit entities.
Night all. Thanks for being here. Many Blessings.
Wow. this is starting to look like book compilation.
great post.
Teddy — Pach had the idea to do a downloadable PDF. I still have to get everyone’s permission but I think that’s a great idea for getting it out virally through the blogosphere, in addition to a media push.
I’m pretty excited about it. Tomorrow may be the last night, Pach is going to do a round-up and then we’re ready to go. Unless I can twist Glenn Greenwald’s arm.
Jane, it certainly has been excellent work by all. I hope the guestposters you rounded up know how much we appreciate their spelunking in the underworld. I’ve learned my limit, that’s for damn sure. I don’t know how folks read this stuff, but I’m glad they brought it back for us. I’d really like to see the look on Wolfie’s face as it sinks in exactly who these nutters are, and what they say and believe.
Great post, s.z. Although suddenly I’m a vegetarian…
I wonder if Wolf would do a spot on the fever swamps of the right after this. That’s the sort of effect you’d like to have, right?
SZ- thank you for a great article, especially for highlighting the “feminist” issue, which has not been addressed in any detail in previous posts in the series.
This quote really got me “If you live in the U.S. and you’re a woman or an effeminate guy, then you’ve got to be happier than a hog in fresh mud, because our current culture has been crafted just for you, baby.”
I’m sure I’m not telling you anything you don’t already know, but that really is complete crap. Back in the 60s and 70s when I decided to pursue a career in the manly world of science, I was hopeful. Now, I am cynical to the extent that if any young woman asked my for my sincere view as to a career in academic science, I’d say no- you will get fucked over and over.
People will write nearly anything. What’s disturbing is that there is a market for it. I wonder how big their audience is?
Lots of news out there. Frist announces that he will deal with flag burning, Gay Marriage, and restrictions on abortion by the end of summer.
Lots of good stuff coming out tomorrow on why the generals are piling on with Rummy (cause they can’t get Bush and Cheney directly- or because they fear a new book that may be coming out soon- or both).
Great NYT editorial tearing Clusterfuck into tiny little pieces for his leak management and lies.
Not a good day to be president.
Come on Clusterfuck- wouldn’t you rather be clearin brush at the pig ranch?
Gnite all!
p.s. not to start a nasty discussion with my gay male friends here at FDL (and hoping that you will understand, guys), but imo, things have improved for gay males (not saying alot) relative to the lot of females, whatever their sexual orientation.
o my
thanks Jane
laughed so hard I peed my hairy feminist woMEN pants
VG - I’m not sure how I think our situation compares to that of gay males but I’m always astonished by the persistence of sexism - like racism outside of the gutters we’ve been looking at each night, it’s shifted to code talk and subtle gestures that are hard to call out but do powerful damage to us nonetheless.
Thanks, SZ. All of the late night ventures into the deep, dark right have been excellent. I’m so grateful to you and the other posters who put these together.
I don’t read their trash normally, so I didn’t understand how much of this garbage was out there. It was the same way with talk radio. I stopped listening in the late 80’s when they turned hard core conservative. It’s sad, but there are people who take these blowhards seriously.
Suin- #29 I should have qualified that statement, because I was speaking from my own perspective in academic science. In other professions, women may have improved their lot more. And, I agree about the code talk and subtle gestures, although in my particular experience I would also add the not so subtle use of male territorial defense against the intruders.
This NRO comment is probably not outright bigotry. It’s more nuanced. Here is John Derbyshire, who is apparently pretty well known, displaying severely misguided confusion, IMHO. He is expressing some kind of unperverse enjoyment at some little victory of the British National Party -a whites only racist political organization that advocates ethnic cleansing of Britain. I think the BNP still advocates deporting all non-whites from Britain, but will have to check. Here are some excerpts:
“…I **do** feel a thrill of satisfaction when I read stuff like that Spectator piece. That’s not because I’m a BNP supporter. They are a cleaned up, coat’n'tie version of the old street-fighting, antisemitic National Front, who I once saw in action at close quarters, a thing I’ve written about here on NRO. However, I hate some of the same things they hate. Their solutions aren’t always my solutions, and it isn’t exactly a case of “my enemy’s enemy is my friend” — I don’t want these people as friends. One can still get a thrill of satisfaction at the victories of one’s enemy’s enemy, though — as I suppose even quite conservative Brits & Americans did at the victories of the Red Army in WW2. I think “celebratory” is a bit strong; but yes, I’m pleased to see people like the BNP poking a finger in the Establishment’s eye.â€
“Same thing for my attraction to US populism. There are so many things the elites don’t want us to know, don’t want us to talk about. It’s stifling. A lot of political conversation in the West resembles tea and cucumber sandwiches at the Vicarage. I chafe at that, and turn with relief to a Bill O’Reilly, a Lou Dobbs, a Michael Savage.â€
“The strongest political emotions I’m aware of in myself are (1) an aversion to being pushed around by wealthy, snobbish, entrenched elites, and (2) a detestation of cant, lying, and sentimentality (all the same thing, really). The whole PC/MultiCulti/”Compassionate conservatism” complex plays right into both emotions. One of the things I love about America (only one) is […] it’s harder for well-padded elites to push ordinary people around in the USA.â€
http://corner.nationalreview.c.....asp#094949
Well, this post reminded me of how differently I view the world from these people. I am a moderate-liberal (by the standards of my youth in the 70s, so that means I am almost a socialist by today’s standards). But I would never celebrate a victory by a terrorist Marxist organization, even if it did poke BushCo in the eye somehow. And I would not be able to see how that compares to the Soviet Army winning a battle against Hitler during WWII.
Can this fellow really confuse O’Reilly, Dobbs, and Savage with populists? Does this man really think that the liberal establishment in the US is “well padded� That is truly bizarre.
I guess this passage is not outright bigotry. It is brutal minded, benighted reaction, ignorance, incoherence and confusion. I am fascinated by the way the National Review can dress that up as cultured sophisticated thughtful erudition and penetrating logic. This time that outlandish parade float plowed right into the BNP.
Hope this example is not too mild to be of interest. It is an NRO guy trying to be thoughtful. I think it has interesting insights into their view of the world though.
VG - I don’t think it’s just in science. I’ve seen an awful lot in corporate settings large and small, progressive and traditional … the resistance to women is still very much alive. My younger coworkers are quite aware of it but seem to have developed mechanisms to counter it - they have a sort of yeah they’re sexist but I know how to get around them attitude which I can’t decide whether I admire or mourn.
time for sleep here … or some serious thinking - Operation Dreamland will haunt me … coupled with the RS article on Basic Training and MFI’s Good Friday post, this is a weekend of meditation.
Thank you all for being here.
siun,
Just watched Operation Dreamland last week. Yeah.
The parts that most resonated with me were when the Lieutenant was out doing a PR op in Fallujah soon after a woman was taken out of her house in the middle of the night and arrested. The Fallujahns were pissed, but lucid. They kept asking, “Why do you arrest a woman? Arrest a man. You can arrest his brothers. You don’t arrest a woman (as in, you clueless dumbshit barbarian)!” You could see their patience coming to an end in recorded time.
Then one man in Fallujah said a simple thing during the PR mission about the occupation’s attitudinal screw-ups that struck me as approaching profound. He said, “America is all-powerful. You flattened Iraq like a pancake. America can go to the moon. But you can’t do one thing. You can’t make people. We make people here.”
Valley Girl @ 11:17 pm (#25) - We seem to have forgotten that old saying about the grass being greener on the other side of the fence. It seems no matter who you talk to, they always think that the “other guys” have it better. Whites think blacks have all the advantages thanks to affirmative action, men think that women have it easy because there are some women who always seem to get ahead no matter how little talent they have (think “Ann Coulter”). And of course, if you’re not a white man you think anyone who is has the world by the short and curlies.
So, for anyone who thinks any of those things, I’ve got news for you: It ain’t so.
BTW, I do want to join others in thanking the guest posters for going through these garbage heaps so I don’t have to.
Now, with that, I bid everyone goodnight.
Anybody witness the thorough thrashing of Joke Line over at HuffPo?
I’m so proud.
This raises the question why do these people hate Jeff Guckert?
I think a visit from the Department of Homeland Security is in order.
Just thinking about the hottest ticket on the web - us. How about a micro-payments plan for our regular reporters and top class stringers?
I hear you can get things like Peppercoin credits and make small payments easily over the net. Small payments that with 10 million page viewers could soon add up to big bikies.
Just my 2c worth.
Having to pick up and discard Muslim prayer rugs and literature strafed about the place. [BTW . . . when did so many Catholic Mexicans convert to Islam? I didn’t get that brief. Would you explain that to me?]
You know, I’ve seen this item about the prayer rugs and literature repeated often around wingnuttia (and mentioned even in the Christian Science Monitor), but it has the strong whiff of urban legend (aka bullshit) to me.
Can anyone confirm the original citation of this item? Preferably with names? Dates? Location?
Apropos finishing the series, I have to mention Clif at Outside The Tent, who does excellent work and often catches weird doings in the WingNet that nobody else does.
Suin- such an interesting comment #35, especially the “admire or mourn” part. That would be a topic for a much more extended discussion, which I’m not up to at the mo (too late). Except to say that speaking out about sexist discrimination doesn’t get one very far where I am, but I can’t seem to do the “get around it” (manage it) approach, because I’m too much of an idealist by nature and experience. And, sadly, the female staff and secretaries in my dept., in the face of a former head of dept. who they all thought was sexist and a bully (as I now learn their views, also mine) just thought that they had to suck it up as part of the job, or be fired. I happened to sit on a committee that included the director of HR and he was truly surprised that he had heard no whiff of this, as HR is always willing to hear complaints. I believe that he was sincere in saying this, but also have to say that he just didn’t understand the problem.
Jane Hamsher @ 11:39 pm (#39) - (Yes, I didn’t quite escape. Wanted to see what moderation my comment needed). It looked to me like clevelandchick covered it pretty well on the first day. After that, it was just more of the same.
Couldn’t happen to a better guy, of course.
Our American buddies on the Arizona, California, New Mexico and Texas borders are especially sick of . . .
• Having to pick up your pill bottles, used needles and syringes.
• Having to find the half eaten remains of their pets left from one of your impromptu BBQ’s.
• Having their homes burglarized.
• Having their daughters raped.
• Having their vehicles stolen.
• Having their property value plummet.
• Having their sedate streets become unsafe requiring their children to be placed under lock and key after sunset.
• Having to pick up and discard Muslim prayer rugs and literature strafed about the place. [BTW . . . when did so many Catholic Mexicans convert to Islam? I didn’t get that brief. Would you explain that to me?]
• Having the arduous and unpleasant chore of scraping human feces off their front lawns in the morning.
Wow. I know my neighborhood is not as family-friendly as it used to be (it certainly isn’t cheaper), but I thought it had more to do with the white meth-head who freaked out in my front yard and tried to break down my door last year.
Cujo359- #38 well, at least I can comfort myself with the thought that as a female I can wear f*ck me high heels without a care.
Interesting dialog over there at The Huffington Post with Mr. Klein. Klein deserves it. Were Democrats shying away from the use of force in the Balkans or Haiti or Sudan during Clinton’s term? Oh, but excuse me, those were all stunts for political gain, wussy feminized exercises in nation building, or did not cout for some other reason (such as, the reactionary wing of the GOP trashed them for political reasons and better to with that, because reactionaries are always right on national security). Oh Well.
I will not be commenting much in the coming weeks. I think I need remedial instruction in just about everything -reading, math, history, basic logic. ‘Cause I went over to the Weekly Standard (looking for the article on the BNP) and nothing they say makes a lick of sense to me, it all seems completely insane and unhinged from reality. This is just from the TOC for the current issue:
Target: Iran
Yes, there is a feasible military option against the mullahs’ nuclear program.
by Thomas McInerney
Bordering on a Victory
Bush may still do well with immigration reform.
by Fred Barnes
Man, just those two completely disoriented me. If the Weekly Standard people and me ever get on the same team in a Survivor series, I am running off into the woods as fast as I can.
Final comment before I sleep -poor conservatives caught in a double bind on immigration. I think an important couple of reasons for recent upswing in undocumented wokers: gutting employer sanctions, and failure of NAFTA to increase real incomes of Mexican poor and peasntry. So waddya got? Two policies dictated by GOP corporate paymasters backfired. GOP has to hide those two reasons from cultural conservaties, fundamentalists and resentful white working class marks. Now their clever immigration finesse is fizzling and they have to save their hopes for getting more of Hispanic vote. But House GOP is crazy and running as fast as it can rightward from Bush and towards the resentful who are susceptable to racist appeals.
And GOP tries to fire up its white nativist bigot racist wing, and simultaneous keep that noise away from prospective Hispanic GOP voters. So you get crazed acting out in several quarters of GOP.
I try not to get my hopes up, but think this clever GOP immigration ploy will work as well for them as it did for California GOP. (Doh!! Why did I say it? Now maybe I jinxed it!).
Immigration is a complex problem. Solution will require lots of complicated fixes that will take a long time. For instance, undoing unexpected failure of NAFTA to help out Mexican poor. (well, actually it was expected by economists who saw a lot of reactionary crap in the treaty that was unrelated to free trade… but that is another story.)
Leviticus 19:33-34
“when a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do (the stranger) wrong. The stranger who sojourns with you shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love (the stranger) as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.â€
I live in Phoenix and my comment on this:
Christian Peacemakers
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2.....-m28.shtml
Yes there are issues, there is garbage, and Arizona has high car thieft rates but it is because the cars can be moved across the boarder to chop-shops easily. I have yet to have factual information on Muslims immigrants, there have been a few rants in the very far right wing newspapers down near the boarder about OTM invasion. OTM are “Other Than Mexicans” But this would include anyone from South & Central America.
I support Humane Borders
completely off the subject…for anyone with even the remotist knowledge of astrology (I know, I know) go over to starlightnews.com and check out the Revolt of the Generals on Nancy’s Blog.
this isn’t crystal gazing though some of you may disagree, the aspects she points out are truly scary and I know how some of you like a good scare.
another two years of Rumsfeld?
Just disgusting. I cannot believe this passes for sane commentary.
SZ sez:
“After Ann Coulter was criticized for referring to Arabs as “rag heads” in her speech before the Conservative Political Action Conference, the chairman of the Michigan GOP (which had hired Ann to do a fundraiser for them later that month) praised Ann’s presentation as “motivational.”
OK. We’ve crept into the bigotry tent this week. And we’ve looked around the place. Guest posters have highlighted prejudice in the right blogosphere against, Mexicans, other Latinos, Arabs, Muslims, African Americans, any woman who has a mind of her own and other slighted groups and individuals.
Several commentators mentioned the Palestinians this week. None of the guest posters have, though. Why is this? As much as I love FDL - I’ve been searching the web for an O’Glake clan tartan - I find the lack of direct confrontation of this issue here to be a major disappointment.
I know it must be tough to go up against that juggernaut, but - hey - you’re already 3/4 of the way there. Notice the fierce militant uber Zionism of the places we have been investigating this week.
I’ll conclude with “Duh, Jane and Redd?”
spiderpaws #49,
Don’t know much about anything right now. I just now finished my f*ing taxes. But my brother-in-law knows pretty much about astrology. In fact, he wrote a book about it recently and got a good review in the NYT not too long ago. BTW Hitler and GW share some pretty significant astrological characteristics. (shocker)
I just peeked in to see what was up at Late Nite. Can’t believe anyone is still up. After reading this Bigot Buffet, I may not be able to get to sleep as I’ll most likely be in the shower washing up after this midnight snack. SZ, I don’t know how you did that. Bless you
Edward:
It’s sort of the dragon in the living room, isn’t it? And it’s rather ironic, if you think about it. All those years, the white-sheets crowd despised the Jews…but now they’re in bed with the Likudniks.
Several commentators mentioned the Palestinians this week. None of the guest posters have, though. Why is this? As much as I love FDL - I’ve been searching the web for an O’Glake clan tartan - I find the lack of direct confrontation of this issue here to be a major disappointment.
I’m puzzled at this because I remember referring to Pamela of Atlas Shrugs as a ‘hysterical anti-Semite (pro-Jewish variety),’ which is a position that carries a certain historical momentum. Any good library has old issues of Commentary on microfilm; we know where this intellectual thread comes from — if Pamela, et al. can be said to have an ‘intellectual’ apprehension of anything.
It isn’t my job in this context to sort out the Mideast and advance a position on who’s right or wrong in a specific conflict. It’s to try in a very small way to regulate domestic stupidity — to keep a discourse that’s already gone off the rails from bursting into flames and consuming what we, in forums like this, still know to be our core Enlightenment (and American) ideals. Speaking for myself, issues-based writing doesn’t interest me much. I don’t have favorite causes or see inequities as separate, you know, reified things to each of which it’s important to give its proper name.
I know it must be tough to go up against that juggernaut, but - hey - you’re already 3/4 of the way there. Notice the fierce militant uber Zionism of the places we have been investigating this week.
I’ll conclude with “Duh, Jane and Redd?â€
Hey man, starting a blog is as easy as commenting on one — and then you have the pleasure of framing things at leisure, and having your own node in this great conversation we’re engaged in.
Well, Hitler, Göring, Goebbels et al. “excited” patriotic and nationalist germans in the 20s and 30s, too, they sure “threw them a lot of red meat”. And this was the begining of the end for democracy. Don’t those GOP leaders ever see a danger in feeding the most radical groups in their party? How crazy is that?
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mr teller,
at my cyber home moon of alabama dot org , you will find many anti zionists (not anti semite) i agree w/your sentiment btw
I think this framing of feminists as butch lesbians that hate penises is completely ridiculous. The fact that this is “mainstream” thinking as to what feminists really are is appalling.
Growing up, I bought into that bull like I did a lot of other stuff. I had that “of course I am for equal rights for women … but I’m no feminist” mentality because feminism has been demonized as some kind of fringe element that strikes fear into the heart of man.
Basically what these people are arguing is that “a submissive woman is a real woman,” and that is such bull manure. I still have my bouts with the regressive mentality of the patriarchical nucleus of family because that was ingrained in me from my environment but I can pinpoint sexism when I see it.
A comedian once said, “Men want to be feared by men and loved by many women… we want to be lesbians.”
Oh baby. In case noone’s mentioned it yet. NYT with an editorial thid morning:
A Bad Leak.
Touche, and kudos to NYT for calling bullshit on WaPo.
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Yes Matt O., it’s hard for people to get through their heads that lesbians are *not* failed heterosexuals.I like to think of the whole thing as a yin-yang equation and that many men could benefit by recognizing their yin.
Edward Teller: Several commentators mentioned the Palestinians this week. None of the guest posters have, though. Why is this? As much as I love FDL - I’ve been searching the web for an O’Glake clan tartan - I find the lack of direct confrontation of this issue here to be a major disappointment.
It’s because we want to win. Politics, you know.
Personally I think the Israelis should return all the land they stole from the Palestinians, but I understand that we can’t do everything all at once. Hell, I could call your Israel and raise you a Darfur.
Maybe that’s the difference between a liberal and a leftist– liberals understand that we can’t attain perfection, utopia and Nirvana all in one election cycle.
Anyhow, maybe the Kamikaze Leftists can come up with a third party candidate who will stick up for the Palestinians.
a while back Billmon thought-provokingly observed that the question of Israel could be as splitting an issue for progressives as the Soviet Union was for progressives in 1948…
BTW, Happy Easter, ‘Dogs!
As most of you probably know, Easter was one of the names of the Earth goddess in the ancient Middle East. Every year she bore a son (called a “year god”) on the winter solstice (now called Christmas) and he died on the spring equinox (now named after his mother, Easter).
So Christianity can be seen as a hybrid of Judaism and the ancient Earth religions of the Middle East.
These are the people who watch The Colbert Report for all the wrong reasons. Ever wonder what percentage of SC’s audience in teevee land just don’t get the joke?
My personal on-line wager is 20%.
Morning!
Another great post, thanks SZ. It has been an enlightening series and I’m thankful so many guest posters from several blogs have been a part of it.
Jane, I really hope this collective series will be sent to more people that need to see it than just Wolfie. There’s so many anchors, pundits, and editors out there that seem to be so clueless (read: look the other way) of what goes on in Wingnuttia World. Can we burn the files to a CD to mail? Can we include petitions signed by all of us, perhaps from each site in the series? Corrupt Corporate World could use a little look see while we’re at it. I just hope we blanket them all, far and wide.
Easter was one of the names of the Earth goddess in the ancient Middle East.
Ostara, right?
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I think you’re thinking either of Eostre or Ostara mui. Eostre was a spring goddess in ancient Britain. Ostara had the same role in Germany among the teutonic tribes. My memory is a bit hazy but IIRC Bede mentioned Eostre and said that her name was adapted for the holiday presumably it mutates into Easter. Again IIRC it was the brothers Grimm who mentioned Ostara, which would make sense as they wanted to write down German oral traditions before they died out.
Don’t forget the other white meat. These guys think they strike a blow against Islam every time they type p-o-r-k.
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You get that Liberals!
Your biggest crime is empowering the voices of the people the privledged white boys used to be able to spit on with impunity!
Imagine how scarey that must be for a ‘man’ who’s greatest achievement in life will only ever be having a penis at birth?
I was confused, reading the part about how horrid it was for the disgusting gay men to want to insert themselves where there could be fecal matter. When I was young and hot, I used to be asked with some frequency if I would go for the butt sex. I had no idea all those guys were gay! What a bunch of posers.
So, in retrospect, I have now counted up and found that the ones who asked turned out in later life to be predominantly Republicans, really really fierce ones. At the time the interest was mainly in drinking and not politics - I would hate for someone to think I would date such creatures now. Republicans I mean.
So odd, so confusing to me.
Very happy you’re featuring SZ’s World O’Crap! Her stuff is hilarious! For me, reading her stuff is a two-fer. I get to keep up with what the other side is saying and thinking and I get some good belly laughs in the process!
wesgpc at #48: Today’s LA Times has a story on a village in southern Mexico where the emigrants are sending remittances (aka money orders) home nad the people who live there have started a business processing nopales, which they are hoping will create 50 or 60 jobs. The focus of the article and its various sidebar pieces is the amount of money going out in remittances, what it can do for the people receiving it, and (in a short but very interesting article) what spending time in the US does to the attitudes of those who return to the villages (grass roots organization, for one thing).
Error! This method of pleasure-taking is such that there exists no possibility of the fucker’s receiving hurt nor of the employed’s object of being transported into seventh heaven. No other matches this in value, no other can so completely satisfy each of the protagonists, and they who have tasted of it know a great difficulty in abandoning it for another. Such, Eugenie, are the best ways of taking pleasure with a man if the perils of pregnancy are to be avoided; for one enjoys - and be very certain of it - not only offering a man one’s ass, but also sucking and frigging him, etc., and I have known libertine ladies who often had a higher esteem for this byplay than for real pleasures. The imagination is the spur of delights; in those of this order, all depends upon it, it is the mainspring of everything; now, is it not by means of the imagination that one knows joy? Is it not by means of the imagination that there comes the most piquant delights?
Philosophy In The Bedroom
Marquis de Sade
Ahhh, a good excuse for some Easter morning Marquis. I figure on issues of sodomy, one must always defer to the master.
Master indeed, Marquis de Sade! Not my master.
wesgpc points us at one of the great opportunities of this whole fracas:
This is the moment that NAFTA falls. All we have to do is point to the brown hordes, turn to the corporatists in both parties, and proclaim: “Behold what you have wrought!”
They promised NAFTA was going to bring prosperity and a burgeoning middle class to Mexico. Instead (like so many of their market fundamentalist policies), it concentrated wealth and bankrupted the country’s middle class.
In short, they’ve already done to Mexico what they’re fixing to do to us. And this debate is the moment where we get to make that point, forcefully.
Also, regarding the apparent conservative belief that the only good woman is a submissive woman: Ironically, it’s been widely observed in the BDSM community that an unnatural number of submissive women are incredibly intelligent, capable, and strong in their outer lives — in fact, they’re often the very same feminist valkyries the right is so terrified of. Turns out that the stronger a woman is, the more likely she’s looking for a guy who can match her strength — and enjoy it when she finds one who can give her a run for her money.
Most conservative men are jealous beta males who just don’t have what it takes to play in the same league as these women (and the men who win them). So they turn to the last refuge of a (wimpy) scoundrel: the right to superiority over women by mere penis possession.
That’s teeny-weeny shit that’s beneath the dignity of a real man, and we should call them on it loudly and often.
Praise Allah and pass the barbecued cat!
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There’s nothing quite so schadenfreud-making as a marginally-literate, illogical ignoramus arguing for white superiority…
The racist Minutemen speak one way when they are in front of the press and another way when they are amongst themselves. They think that they are getting away with something, (like little kids,) when they deliberately use what they assume to be politically correct talk for public consumption and then become very jovial amongst themselves when cracking racist jokes, sharing racial slurs, and laughing at each other’s racist epitaphs.
A reporter on the scene observed a group of Minuteman acting like racist jerks that just caught the “enemy,†(five unarmed thirsty, cold and hungry illegal immigrants huddled together in the desert night air.) He said that the Minutemen were glad handing each other, and laughing it up over the great sport, so that one might have suspected that they had just captured Al Qaeda terrorists, or possibly a wounded lion. When other reporters arrived on the scene the good old’ boys stopped the back slapping and returned to the PC posturing.
The reporter stated that the captured border crossers wore light wind breakers and were freezing. No one offered them water, food, a blanket or a jacket to protect them from the cold. The reporter said it was one of those moments when he felt embarrassed to be labeled American.
Yet there are those in the media who want to project an image of the Minutemen as generally patriotic Americans serving their country. If they sincerely wanted to do their patriotic duty, they would be marching in the streets demanding the impeachment of the entire current administration, but we know that this is not what the Minutemen are about, don’t we?
A reporter on the radio said that while there was a yahoo element among the Minutemen, he claimed that the majority were regular Mom and Pop “Rockwell painting” Americans. The regular Moms and Pops are at home making a living for their families; they are not out in the desert in the middle of the night playing childish war games. It is like paint ball on steroids or a chance to play war for those who have never had to fight in a real one.
It’s easy to raise boys feminists will hate. All you have to do is raise boys everybody will hate.