
(graphic by RaJa Tech for guest blog by Taylor Marsh)
The one really intriguing nugget of data in the new Cook Political Report/RT Strategies poll has to do with 2008. Thus far, when Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., have been matched up in hypothetical ballot tests, McCain has won each easily. Now that McCain has embarked on a grand repositioning of himself in the political marketplace, moving from the independent, moderate maverick to a mainstream Republican team player, it raises the questions of what he gains, what he loses, and what is the net effect.
While the truth is that on most important, substantive issues, as opposed to process issues (e.g. campaign finance reform), McCain’s voting record has always been very conservative and there is no shift. Indeed, his strong support of the war in Iraq has not wavered one bit. On measures of style, rhetoric and political positioning (e.g., going to Rev. Jerry Falwell’s Liberty University to give the commencement address), though, McCain is clearly moving. As McCain begins to solidify himself on the right, does he sacrifice support in the middle?
It is far too soon to say, but comparing the late February Cook Political Report/RT Strategies numbers to the newest ones, McCain has gone from a 10-point, 47 percent to 37 percent advantage, to a five-point, 44 percent to 39 percent lead. Among registered voters, McCain’s advantage has had a smaller drop from a 12-point margin (48 percent to 36 percent) in February to a 9-point margin (46 percent to 37 percent). … …
Better In than Out, by Charlie Cook – via MyDD (emphasis added)
We might as well call this one, Senator Suck Up gets a message.
Seems like moving to the right in a contorted effort to seduce Bush’s right-wing base isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. Even religious fanatics can sense when a person’s motives aren’t pure. Not only that, but in the process you actually lose ground, because the people who used to believe in you now find you simply spineless.
Well done, John.
I’m obviously not alone in finding John McCain’s contorted posturing, especially in Memphis, to be an embarrassment. It’s just so blatantly obvious what he’s attempting to do. Besides, if you look at McCain’s record, he’s about as conservative as they come.
So, what does McCain gain if he goes so far right as to win the nomination in 2008, but loses the whole ball game because his far right-wing lurch makes him unelectable in the general?
In a word, nothing.
Senator McCain obviously is sensing the backlash, which is hinted at in Cook’s poll. It’s one reason he likely did his recent interview with Jon Stewart, where he finally admitted he was sucking up to Bush’s base.
However, it’s way too early to tell if this is a trend, as Charlie Cook stated, with Jonathan Singer agreeing. However, even people like Howard Kurtz have questioned if it’s now the end of the media affair for John McCain. E.J. Dionne ran a column recently entitled, A Maverick No More?. Maverick, schmaverick, I say.
But trouble abounds for Bush’s Republican Party these days. There is such a right-wing ideological litmus test rooted in religiosity that is demanded for candidates that it makes them close to unelectable by the masses, not to mention the credibility issues that come with sucking up to Bush’s base. Old time Republicans hardly recognize Bush’s Republican Party.
Now that the GOP has been transformed by the rise of the South, the trauma of terrorism and George W. Bush’s conviction that God wanted him to be president, a deeper conclusion can be drawn: The Republican Party has become the first religious party in U.S. history.
(snip)
Unfortunately, more danger lurks in the responsiveness of the new GOP coalition to Christian evangelicals, fundamentalists and Pentecostals, who muster some 40 percent of the party electorate. Many millions believe that the Armageddon described in the Bible is coming soon. Chaos in the explosive Middle East, far from being a threat, actually heralds the second coming of Jesus Christ. Oil price spikes, murderous hurricanes, deadly tsunamis and melting polar ice caps lend further credence.
The potential interaction between the end-times electorate, inept pursuit of Persian Gulf oil, Washington’s multiple deceptions and the financial crisis that could follow a substantial liquidation by foreign holders of U.S. bonds is the stuff of nightmares. To watch U.S. voters enable such policies — the GOP coalition is unlikely to turn back — is depressing to someone who spent many years researching, watching and cheering those grass roots. … …
How the GOP Became God’s Own Party – Kevin Phillips
Even Mr. Phillips, who once considered voting for John McCain, says McCain’s closeness to George W. Bush makes that almost impossible now.
Yes, it’s too early to know anything for certain, except that the likelihood of the American public wanting to elect another George W. Bush is between slim and nil. The indomitable Helen Thomas put it succinctly just recently: Want Another Bush? Elect McCain.
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Fitz
double posts– it happened again!
Oh, I had such a clever comment for Jane’s post, too!
Thank you, Taylor, for your heroic guesting. This has been an embarassment of riches, post after post.
And may I also say that the grafix recently have really been terrific too.
The double posting was my fault, because I had a little glitch with uploading. But I’m sure you’ll be able to use your comment for Jane later today.
Thanks, TeddySanFran.
Completely agree with you TeddySanFran.
Apologies OfT:
RBG linked Debbie Howell’s just posted defense of Fred Hiatt’s “A Good Leak” on the previous thread.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01393.html
Thanks Mr. C.
yes Ed*ard Teller (from last thread),
that “master debater” phrase echoing in my head was responsible for my spelling error. Great to have introduced Buckley with that fitting homage.
As for McCain, he was never, nor will he ever, be a Master Debater.
Prevpost, wrt to the Baghdad Fortress of Solitude in the Green Zone: will this be where our current leadership flees to, in order to escape the impending US Truth and Reconciliation Commission?
If the election in 2008 is a choice between Clinton and McCain, you won’t find me at the polls.
McCain is no dummy. He knows that the heir apparent is Jeb. He can’t get nominated by showing the party that he has the best chance to win, because the bosses are confident that Diebold, recounts, and similar devices will deliver the White House in the end. McCain’s only chance is for the GOP grassroots to demand that he be the nominee.
OT and on topic. I just finished a piece of music about Bush’s Katrina moments. Each part of the composition goes with one of the pictures taken of Bush during the storm and aftermath. I’ve got low quality pics taken off of the web, but I’m looking for a source of high resolution pics that I can purchase or get a license to use. The pics I’m looking for:
Bush playing the gift guitar in SanDiego
Bush giving John McCain his birthday cake later the same day in Phoenix
Bush talking with Michal Brown the day he said “Heckuva a job, Brownie.”
Bush speaking with Trent Lott about his porch
Bush walking with the firemen in Gulfport or ?
Bush giving his illuminated speech in front of the illuminated cathedral in NOLA
Any ideas on HQ sources?
It has become increasingly difficult to determine where Senator John McCain stands politically. His recent behavior has left many speculating whether or not he has begun his push to garner the Republican nomination…something not long ago viewed as a long shot given his past estrangements with the Republican establishment.
His bitter campaign battle with George Bush in 2000 has apparently been set aside as he is now a frequent defender of the President…recently going so far as to suggest his supporters defer their straw poll votes to the President despite the fact that the President cannot run again for the office. His highly publicized reconcilliation with Reverend Jerry Falwell has raised a number of eyebrows as well.
Always known as a maverick, his recent actions seem to indicate an attempt to find favor with a broader spectrum of the Republican Party. Surprisingly, he just made a statement in Iowa that he opposed a Constitutional Amendment banning same sex marriage. The statement likely leaves as many Republicans as Democrats wondering about McCain’s motivations and intentions.
read more here:
http://www.thoughttheater.com
OnT: Isn’t McCain’s “moving right for 2008″ dilemma also heightened by the sheer number of viable wingnut choices for the GOP 2008 preznit nom? Allen, Brownback, Romney, Tancredo… it seems like there’s more candidates on the right than the GOP can handle now. Why would McCain move to the right, right now? My WAG: because he knows that BigTime will be moving out of One Observatory Circle. McCain needs to make his bones with the folks who have veto power over W’s next Veep choice — the same folks who vetoed Supreme Harriet.
By the time of the 2008 election McCain will be 72. Too old, and especially too old to pose and an agent of change.
You heard it here–it will be Mark vs Mitt–Warner vs Romney–in 2008.
15 — yes, at 72, McCain’s too old to run. Unless he’s been Veep for two years, or even been our “long national nightmare is over” Preznit in the case of W’s removal.
You’re never too old to run for Preznit if you are already Preznit. Just sayin’.
Field Marshall Rommelsfeld would make a strong candidate for the ReichsFuhrer, IMO.
I know most of you at FDL know that McCain is a hard core Republican and is not worthy of the “Maverick” label. He is a world class politician and an expert grandstander. He will rally behind peoples’ causes and turn around and quietly vote with the corporatocracy every time. He gets away with it because the corporate media is complicit in his charade. He should have “NFG” printed on his cards. No F – ing Good.
I was at a meeting of a community organization last week, and one of the people there who’s actually a lobbyist (sorta new to the gig and certainly a rarity in this neck of the woods) was saying how he got a behind-the-scenes tour of the Capitol and met with John McCain, who he described as very personable and friendly. Others piped in–I’m pretty sure all Democrats (except for the lobbyist guy who is a mainstream, i.e., non-nutso Repub) as this is a pretty Democratic town–about how much they liked him. One even said wouldn’t it be nice if McCain switched to the Democratic Party. The conversation quickly shifted to the business at hand before I was able to pipe up about McCains pandering to Jerry Falwell and the like. There is that perception out there of Mr. Straight Shooting Maverick that will need to be overcome.
Stuart #10. I’m not so sure about Jeb being heir apparent. Maybe he was when he and Fristy went off to examine the tsunami damage. But now we’re just not talking about Bush fatigue but Bush revulsion. What’s his slogan going to be? “I’m the smart one”?
I am down on my knees praying for the soul of John McCain and the Republican Party. Will you please join me? Our future depends on it!
Let him pander away! GHWBush pandered, got elected, and got thrown out. GWB didn’t pander because he is a true believer. But now Americans know what the religious wing nuts (the ones that turn counter clockwise) are capable of. And they are at least uncomfortable with the political association. Let them have their counter-clockwise orgy — with kiss ups and all. As long as the world stays relatively round and spins, this brand of wing-nuttia will fail. I mean it is so bad even the generals are coming out.
Howell’s defense is unbeleiveable-I wish. So lets see, people can se thingsdifferently and the Washington pOst editorialy supports the war so we can say anything we feel like???
Don’t forget Poland.
I mean, don’t forget Jeb’s Shiavo Showboat. That was a real dud, politically.
Great graphic, Taylor…still chuckling…still…still…still…
I’ve heard people talk about McCain being Bush’s next VP if Cheney goes, but I can’t really see Bush and McCain getting along very well. And I don’t think Bush would take too kindly of McCain telling him anything that he wouldn’t want to hear or even giving his opinion on any matters. I see Bush picking someone more pliant.
I hate McCain as much as the next person, but I confess I don’t see his problem as described here.
For primary he goes right, for generals he goes left.
Duh.
Is this new to people?
Does anyone think that center-ish people who were wishywashy enough to dig him once won’t dig him again after he “comes back” in the general election campaign?
Let me put it another way: Has ANYONE, EVER gone broke betting on the stupidity of the American public?
I don’t see McCain’s problem here.
Here’s Johnnnnnnyyyyyyy!
The Slimeball McCain will never be President. Katrina changed everything.
Debby will do more. And all whoever runs for the Democratic Party has to do is show Johnnnnnnnyyyyyyyyy as he was that day and he’s gone.
Thanks, marily. Don’t you just love McCain sitting on Bush’s lap. SO fitting.
Here’s my thoughts on the whole Cheney thing. Unless something extraordinary happens with the Libby case, and I mean EXTRAORDINARY, Cheney’s there to stay.
Cheney is WAY past his pull date, medically speaking. His abdomen is swollen like a queen bee’s.
If he survives til 2008, it will be a miracle of modern medicine.
Well, bewteen 17 (field marshall rommelsfeld) and 19’s jeb slogan (i’m the smart one) I’m having a jolly good time.
Back to McCain….I agree, the “maverick” title never really quite described his reality. I think McCain is VERY conservative, and just as warmongering as the neocons. Maybe he got the “maverick” title because of his campaign finance reform bill? Today, he just reminds me of…a whore. He sells himself to this group and that….constantly running to and fro sucking up to anyone who will listen to him. He’s lost his own way, and is now a joke unto himself.
But I’ll let those repugs get out their knives and do the cutting. I hope they bloody each other up, while a good Democrat takes it all in 2008. Ghostman
John McCain, the trojan horse hiding in the maverick.
He is toast.
-GSD
Ghostman–left an EPU’d comment for you on the last thread
OfT:
Gay families who waited in line at the WH all nite for Easter Eggroll tickets learn that the WH has a new definition of “first-come-first-served:”
http://pageoneq.com/news/2006/eggroll_041506.html
As to the viability of Jebby?
Well, his name NEVER shows up in any of the polls–even ones where people have a choice.
He is the last of the Borgia/Mayberry Machiavellis from that spen and dissipated bloodline.
The ghost of Franklin Pierce is thanking GW everyday for taking Pierce off the list of one nominee for Worst President Ever.
-GSD
Here in AZ there were rumors during the time before Kerry announced Edwards as his VP running mate, that McCain was considered. The rumors are that McCain was offered a deal…. where he sold his soul to BushCo for the Repug VP slot for a shoe-in for 2008.
The logistics hinted is that Cheney will resign for health reasons and Bush will nominate McCain which because he is such a “nice guy” will be voted in by congress. Then he will be an incumbant and status for his run. So for this deal, McCain sold his soul by supporting BushCo.
Please understand that McCain is more pro-war than any PNAC member, he wants bigger and better military, more war and endless wars. McCain scares the shit out of me.
I have posted this over and over again about McCain…. http://www.dailykos.com/commen…..0012/80#80
Where does McCain stand on the issues?
Today he says XXXX and tomorrow he says YYYY……. speaking at Liberty University where they advocate subservant status of woman….
Georga10 tells it here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/3/28/121748/577
In regards to the Easter egg hunt in the Pit of Sauron.
Waiting for the time when the last shall be first and the first shall be last.
-GSD
Citizen 26:
Yes, that birthday cake pic and the other pic of his orgasmic hugging (closed eyes, for God’s sake!) of sweaty Bush will do him in.
Does someone have a link to the second pic?
Tom Coburn, Senator claims 7 lawmakers will be joining the Dukestir in the pokey.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0415.html
-GSD
Here’s some high-comedy(?) from The National Ledger:
“John McCain is one of these pretenders. He is a leftist in disguise, using his popularity and charisma to masque his liberal leanings. In reality, McCain resides as far to the Left as John Kerry. Anyone who thinks otherwise deludes himself.”
Must be some sort of inoculation from the sure to come charges that he’s too Conservative.
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/…..575112.htm
April 15, 2006]
Busy McCain expresses views on Rumsfeld, immigration, Iraq war
(Tribune, The (Mesa, AZ) (KRT) Via Thomson Dialog NewsEdge) Apr. 15–Sen. John McCain joined the ranks of retired generals who have said they have no confidence in Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.
Or more precisely, the generals are falling in line with McCain’s long-standing assessment, McCain said Friday.
“I was asked a long time ago, I think a year and a half or two years ago, if I had confidence in S ecretary Rumsfeld. I was asked that directly. I said, ‘No,’ ” the Republican senator said during a news conference at his Phoenix office.
“But the president has the right and earned the right as the president of the United States to appoint his team — and he has confidence in Secretary Rumsfeld.
“I will continue to work with Secretary Rumsfeld as much as I can as long as he is secretary of Defense. We have to, because we need to win this war.”
Imagine the ’swift boating’ McCain could expect if he was a Democrat.
Good thing he’s just a NeoConservative appeaser.
gsd 33 is good stuff lmao!
darkblack rocks, thanks for 40.
The question I have is this: How much of this downturn in the polling is uniquely due to McCain’s rightward shift? If McCain hadn’t shifted towards Falwell, et al, one could make the argument that he still would have suffered in the polls due to the overall downturn in Republican pro-war popularity, and not specifically because of McCain’s own personal political maneuvering.
http://www.billmon.org is baaaaaaaack. God, can he write!
# 31, professor….EP….! Oh! I forget the types of lingo ya’ll use around here. Ok, to use my own lingo, I’ll take a look at what you have to say “on that other damn thread”…chuckle. And I’ll give a response…over there. Ghostman
katymine – also an adoptive and birth mom here – birth son 26, adoptive daughter 20 and also from Korea – I share you outrage over McCain and talk with folks about this a lot. Accepting a vicious racist attack on either of my children as the price of entry into presidential privilege – more evil than I can contemplate.
This is all you need to know about McCain
Hit enter too fast that image is from a posting on my site entitled:
“Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding†Those of you who know the New Testament will get the reference. :-)
I dropped a (late) mention about Dahr Jamail’s article last month on the permanent military bases & the embassy in light of several military planning documents, Iraq: Permanent US Colony, in the earlier post. Think McCain (or any Dem for that matter) will disavow the foundations of the plan Bush has laid?
suin, what McCain did NOT do, defend his family is more than changing your mind on a policy or a vote. It is a man’s core values and actions related to those core values.
YOUR family should be your core, the base of who and what you are. If you cannot defend, support and protect the core of who you are, it does not matter if it is one year or a 100 years from when the event occured.
I have received support of my McCain position from anyone who values family, it does not matter how you build your family. McCain can dodge left, right and flip-flop all he wants. I know all I need to know about him. He is rotten to the core.
@ 47:
The positioning of Junior’s grasping claw…The look of anticipatory anxiety on McStain’s face…The joint eyelines…Oh what I could do with that .jpeg, if so inclined to such mischief.
;>)
suin, what you said. I value our children, all of them, and as a citizen of this nation, hello, our future…??? My own mother would have impaled his throat. Guess that’s politics.
So what are you waiting for darkblack? ;-)
Absolutely, Katy.
Interesting take on the Rumsfeld and the Generals story over on Rolling Stone’s politics page:
But Rummy is not going anywhere. Despite what you may have heard, we still have three co-equal branches of government: Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld. Neither Dick nor Rummy serve at the pleasure of the president. Along with Bush, they are president.
Think of it this way: If Cheney is Bush’s adult supervision, Rumsfeld is Cheney’s. Rummy was Cheney’s boss and mentor in the Seventies and that power dynamic remains in full effect. In the Cheney/Rumsfeld cabal, power flows downhill from Rumsfeld.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics
Here’s a tidbit from McCain’s cute appearance at the Frist Coronation in Memphis (yeah, right, 500 people in Tennessee get to pick the next president). McCain described his time in the Senate as “doing the Lord’s work in the City of Satan”. Big applause from the GOP crowd, unsurprisingly. Now I know that DC-bashing is good fun all around, drown-it-in-the-bathtub and all that stuff, but… I live about a mile outside of DC and work in the city every day, as does my wife. We know a lot of perfectly nice families that live in DC. There are quite a few spots in DC that might be considered significant to our nation in a good way, such as, you know, the Lincoln Memorial, where Martin Luther King gave his “I Have a Dream” speech. The Vietnam Veteran’s Memorial where many of McCain’s Brothers in Arms are honored. The Supreme Court, where Brown v. Topeka was decided. The National Cathedral. The ostensible Temple of Democracy that we call the Capitol. Maybe I’m just hyper-sensitive because I see the people and the place every day, but it just ain’t right to call anywhere the “City of Satan”, and anybody who thinks it’s a good joke probably has a DVD boxed set of “Happy Days”. So my basic response to John McCain calling the capitol of my country the “City of Satan” is basically to say “Fuck You Too, Senator.”
The interesting part of the story is that in about a week of trying, I was only able to get one journalist to even admit in public that McCain said it. If you google “McCain City of Satan” you won’t find much, I can promise you that. So I guess it is one of those extra-crunchy little applause lines that you only use for special audiences. Kind of like my chain-saw halloween party routine, just not for everyone, ya know.
So the bottom line is that we can get another warmonger and asshole for president next time if we want. There is at least one available.
Keepin’ on,
jim
I think it’s important to bear in mind that McCain was basically facing a constituent revolt as a result of his attempts to stand up to bushco. Remember that the AZ Republicans formally censured him in June 2005 and many local operatives were openly calling him a traitor (not only to the pardon, but to the country). I suspect his about-face was as much dictated by these home territory developments as any other. He’s in a conservative state with a conservative constituency. They like Bush.. and they’re happy to throw their own senator under the Bush to cover for the preznit.
Urgh.. pardon = party
under the bush = under the bus
Arizona republicans censured McCain??? What? I’ve never heard that. What happened? Censured him for what? Truly, this is fascinating. Can you explain?
Ghostman
I preferred your original of “under the Bush” blub it’s called serendipity don’t fight it when it happens ;-)
The D. congresscritters are doing town meetings all around MA with the ACLU over the NSA wiretap insanity. Marty Meehan did one a month or so ago and someone asked what was it going to take to break the logjam and Marty started talking about working in a “bipartisan manner” with people like McCain. The group wasn’t much having it.
Afterwards I went up to him and told him that every time he is in a photo-op with Johnny it brings Johnny one step closer to being elected pres. Most people don’t know what a right winger he is. Marty agreed and said he’d “think about that.”
We all need remind our dems to stop giving Johnny those photo ops that make him look reasonable!!!!
markfromireland, follower of Jesus,
“For behold, we are Legion.”
What’s most distressing is the the Democratic analists (sic?) feel their base is the “loony left” while the Republican base is the mainstream. Even though the “looney left” was correct about the lies of Iraq/9/11 linkage, suspicious about WMD, appalled at the illegal attack on Wilson and War on Iraq, still concerned about Osama left to pursue additional attacks, alarmed at a runaway soft-dictatorship…I could go on.
The point is, with favorable approval ratings among independents in the radioactive range, running to the “center” means running from Bush.
McCain (and Rudy) have huge problems- they are the most popular of the gooper candidates with the general public- but they won’t be able to get past gooper primaries. Both would have to manage major makeovers before the primaries- and then swing back to the mainstream for the general election. To pull that off with a shred of credibility intact would be a major problem..
Fortunately- they can go to Falwell and make promises in secret- and then let Falwell vouch that they are “holy”.
Oilfieldguy – important point about Dems attitude to all of us … we need to keep that in mind.
and I definitely second MFIs approval of Blub’s original – was chortling here!
Mr. McCain, if you can’t stand up for your own family, what can you stand up for ?
People on left recognize McCain’s moderate characteristics have more to do with submissiveness than values. Given that the right needs an aggressor they can identify with, I don’t see where he fits in. Any deals he cut with Rove after the primary emasculation won’t carry much weight if and likely when Rove gets taken down. It looks like a hapless struggle fo him.
suin, rummy can’t go anywhere right now. Entrenched policy. and Change means change. It is not happening now, go figure. We have a wall that is up that is also an explaination of all the policy and all this administration: We are not changing, no matter what. It doesn’t matter, we aren’t changing; possibly now nor ever. WE are the ever.
McCain is a rather feckless creep… and one of the Keating 5.
I don’t trust him… he blows with the wind and is a very right winger in the end.
No McCain, No way.
So, what does McCain gain if he goes so far right as to win the nomination in 2008, but loses the whole ball game because his far right-wing lurch makes him unelectable in the general?
I don’t think his rapid repositioning has anything to do with 2008 because he is moving too fast for an election that still 2 1/2 years away. No, I think there is a much more immediate purpose to his repositioning.
That purpose? McCain knows Dick Cheney is going down, much sooner than later. I believe McCain is positioning himself to take over Cheney’s spot NOW.
And there’s a damn good chance the Dems are going to regain one or both of the Houses in Congress. If that happens, McCain knows the gig is probably up for himself and the rest of the repub party. So NOW is the time to make him move to get into the White House, cause 2008 ain’t going to be pretty for an outside-the-White House candidate.
And who knows what Fitz and/or the new Dem Congress is going to do with Bush. If Bush should happen to step down after Cheney has resiged and McCain approved as the next VP…..voila! McCain is POTUS!
Long before 2008 – and well-positioned for the 2008 election!
Ghostman
I vaguely recollect that several state GOP committees censured him in June for criticizing the president. All I could find was this excerpt from an old Wapo article I had saved:–
“The GOP committee for Arizona’s 11th legislative district, where McCain resides, has passed a “resolution of censure and shame†accusing the lawmaker of drifting to the left on issues ranging from immigration to the filibuster — and is urging Republicans everywhere to oppose him if he runs for president in 2008.
“We are ashamed of John McCain’s betrayal of the trust Republican voters placed in him,†said the resolution, passed earlier this summer. “We further state that only under extremely extraordinary circumstances will we support the candidacy of John McCain for President of the United States. We urge other Republican organizations to likewise convey to Senator McCain that they will not support his candidacy.â€
Found the article on that one committee (but I believe thre was at least half a dozen):
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01064.html
I think it’s pretty clear he is/was under pressure from the right wing in his own state. And being AZ, the right wing is everything for a rethug.
10 steve expat says:
April 15th, 2006 at 12:34 pm
If the election in 2008 is a choice between Clinton and McCain, you won’t find me at the polls.
I totally agree with you. But I’d love to see what the polls would say about McCain vs Gore or Feingold or…
McCain is a fraud. If John Kerry’s (and by extension mine, and I was but a reluctant supporter) service is open to Slime Boating, then so too McCain. Kerry looked the enemy in the eye, and took the fight to him. McCain dropped bombs on civilian targets from ten thousnad feet, and when he incompetently got himeself shot down looked the enemy in the eye, raised his hands and surrendered.
My point is that I think we have to realize that, due to the nature of their base and their funding structure, we have no reliable (or even real) allies in that party.. and that it is the party itself that is the problem, not individual legislators and a particular president. If we start counting on rethugs to defect or give them kudos for being slightly nicer than the next one, we’ll get nowhere. The Democratic party has to save itself, drive the thugs from power, and then take back the country. If the right wing Republican base has a problem with that, we have to make sure that their only outlet would be to take to the hills as off-the-grid militia :)
McCain Means ‘No Change.’
The potential benefits of naming McCain to VP are significant:
1) It would free Cheney from the burden of maintaining a public life, and actually give him more time to run the country;
2) It mends a broken fence with Congress Repugs aand would greatly help in their elections later this year;
3) It temporarily mends the fence broken between the Neocons and Karl Rove (i.e., the Republican Party) over the Iraq debacle and would disperse the stench of PlameGate;
4) It gives the appearance of moving the Administration to the center, which will effectively blunt the planned Democratic attacks, while actually moving further right;
5) It would protect Bush from being impeached or otherwise undermined, and the curse can be stayed. It even gives Bush the option of stepping down and going back to his pig farm with the Perminint Muhjority intact.
Naming McCain as VP will keep the whole craven madness that’s pluverizing our dollar, military, and Constitution spinning merrily along on the path to public corporate servitude. (Have YOU earned your spot in BushWorld?)
yikes, billmon’s got a post up re the wapo angry left story.
” The Post is getting even with Left Blogistan for the take down of Baby Ben, for the impudent e-mails about the omsbudswoman from hell, for the passionate defense of Dan Froomkin, for the outrage over the Post’s editorial defense of the sliming of Joe Wilson, etc. etc. “
hm, that’s the second time a url has disappeared here , not sure what’s up w/that
http://billmon.org/archives/002387.html
marclord:
If you click my homepage you’ll see I used these lyrics as a link:
Legion (Anachron)
Enveloped in a sentiment,
a sound that rushes over me.
Engage an impulse to pretend
I have a faith as pure.
Not forgetting what it means to dream.
Indulging everything.
Entertaining thoughts that I’ve the strength
of those I yearn to be.
Cheers and tribute greet the saviours.
Reckless thoughts survive.
Anachronistic and impulsive.
And what will happen?
Will I dream?
I am too scared to close my eyes.
For a second please hold me.
None can change in me these things that I believe.
But I don’t know what happens now.
I am too scared to close my eyes
Those of you who follow my gorillas guides blog will recognise some of the images Blumrich uses. And the Gadarene swine describes the current Administration and its supporters exactly IMO. As a side issue btw VNV’s lyricist and singer is Irish if you don’t know ‘em you should try some of their stuff.
Clueless — McCain with never be POTUS (maybe in his dreams). Bush and Cheney are married at the hips.
There are two possible outcomes here. One good and one bad. These fucks live and die together. They will be impeached together. This is the good outcome. Which will only occur after the DEMs take congress, at which time Pelosi, being speaker of the house, will become president, and she will pick Murtha as vice (they are buddies).
No the bad outcome, as represented by FDL commenter MarcLord in a previous thread post, claims Bush/Cheney are taking America (and the world) toward Marshall Law. See: http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ment-67945
Now for a light-hearted free trade joke:
Why else are there Chinese troops in Latin America?
http://www.latimes.com/news/na…..;cset=true
Answer: They are less expensive than American troops! (ha ha ha)
Personally, I think it is because the Chinese don’t trust Bush.
New thread from Jane
Count me in with the crowd that thinks McCain wants to replace Cheney past the midpoint of the four-year term. I’d go so far as to say Cheney could be orchestrating it.
Or maybe not. Still, In 2000, John McCain learned that it doesn’t matter how the primaries go. Big Money picks the GOP candidate, and simply herds the religious right to the polls on election day. McCain is doing everything he can to get Big Money’s blessing long before the primaries, just as President Bush did.
The bit on Jon Stewart suggested he didn’t buy into the swill he’s peddling. But hey, neither does President Bush. Heading into his second term, Bush undoubtedly thought he could let his corporate flag fly, but look what happened to the Meiers nomination. There’s no reason to believe that McCain could ever stop pandering to the theocrats, either.
“I’m obviously not alone in finding John McCain’s contorted posturing, especially in Memphis, to be an embarrassment”
it would be an embarassment if McCain was being something that he really wasn’t. But McCain has proved himself to be pure phoney hack with absolutely no values or redeeming value time and time again. His recent blatant suck-up to the whack jobs isn’t embarassing, its just McCain being exactly who McCain is. Look at is as both revealing – showing the true McCain as well as, for McCain, liberating – no more phoney Mr. Maverick/moderate…at least until its convenient again.
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This is great. Even my husband, said he would not mind votintg for McCain before, but if he turns too much for the right, that will take care of all the Centrist Repubs and Dems. Way to go, John.
I always thought that McCain was a wolf in sheep clothing. He made his reputation as a maverick, but, if one examines his “maverick” positions closely, one can see that, once the cameras were off him, he always fell back into line very quickly.
He made a lot of noise getting his “anti-torture” bill through, but did not utter a peep of protest when Bush, while signing the bill, added a nasty little “signing statement” essentially saying that he would ignore the law as he saw fit.
McCain was savaged by the Bush smear machine in 2000. His family was savaged as well. There were nasty rumors that his wife was addicted to pain-killers, and that his adopted child was really the fruit of a liaison with a — Gasp! — black woman.
Despite all of this, he soon joined the ranks of the GOP and campaigned with alacrity for Bush in 2004.
That he chose to ignore the dirt thrown at him by the Bush smear machine, I suppose I can understand. That he chose to ignore the dirt thrown at his family, and campaign with the dirt-throwers, I cannot begin to comprehend. By sucking up to the people who disparaged his wife and child, he showed how little morals (and “family values”) he really has, and waht a dreadful opportunist he really is.
If that were not enough to highlight to what extent McCain is willing to prostitute himself in his naked pursuit of power, he has now publicly coopted the lunatic religious fringe by embracing Jerry Falwell.
God saves us from that creature! If we think Bush is bad, wait until we get McCain as President!
I told Team FDL that I would refrain from working ‘blue’ onsite, Mark.
‘Think of the children’
;>)
teddy san fran–no longer wild a** guess, must now call such things wild speculation :)
“Dear Senator Obama:
I would like to apologize to you for assuming that your private assurances to me regarding your desire to cooperate in our efforts to negotiate bipartisan lobbying reform legislation were sincere.”
Remember these words? McCain’s letter to Obama re. Obama’s actions on lobbying reform?
Here’s more:
When you approached me and insisted that despite your leadership’s preference to use the issue to gain a political advantage in the 2006 elections, you were personally committed to achieving a result that would reflect credit on the entire Senate and offer the country a better example of political leadership, I concluded your professed concern for the institution and the public interest was genuine and admirable. Thank you for disabusing me of such notions with your letter to me dated February 2, 2006, which explained your decision to withdraw from our bipartisan discussions. I’m embarrassed to admit that after all these years in politics I failed to interpret your previous assurances as typical rhetorical gloss routinely used in politics to make self-interested partisan posturing appear more noble. Again, sorry for the confusion, but please be assured I won’t make the same mistake again.
This guy is a less “krazy” Lindsay Graham.