Christy!

Fitz?

Yeah Christy!
(although I kinda prefer Redd)

She who believes the sicko Japanese internment camps were okey dokey too.

She believes in racial profiling and probably donates money to Gitmo. ugh.

I pity her children…

Have a great vacation ReddHedd and thanks for a great post.

RH aka Christy- wow what a great post with all of those great graphics. Outdone yourself on this one. I thought you were supposed to be taking some time off for a well-deserved vacation!!!!

FWIW: the Larouchies were not bilingual: the sign had obvious spelling errors. It would get them derision from the crowd … (heh, heh, heh!)

With major positive immigration marches all over the country, it is kinda disappointing that seemingly Pach and I were the only regulars here that participated – and both sides of my family have been Anglo-Hoosiers since before the Civil War…

fitzfitzfitzfitzfitzfitzfitzfitzfitz

(Fitz: It’s Not Just For #1 Position Anymore! Shout It Anytime!)

ok, now to sink my teeth into some late nite Reddness, excellent!

I wouldn’t begin to try to figure out what Malkin is frothing about!! all I KNOW IS i’VE ONCE AGAIN HAD TO GO TO ANNOMOUSE TO GET THE CURRENT PAGE. Whaaaas up?

Umm, I take it as a sign of incipient good mental health that I cannot make sense of Malkin’s ravings, whatsoever.

Great post Christy… I wish I’d made it to D.C. for this. Instead I snagged some short video footage of the L.A. two weeks before. It was an amazing site…

Christy aka Redd ~
I thought you were on vacation…Go already, you deserve it! Great post.
That’s quite a two day period, isn’t it? I’d say “for shame,” but I’m not sure she has any.

or decency. Just sayin’
I saw her on Hardball before the 2004 election and Matthews banned her from his show – during his show – she was so ugly about the Japanese internment camps.

I took about 400 high-quality fotos of the Indpls Marcha : the organizers have copies on CD for their use now. Interestingly I saw only 2 Mexican flags – they were carried by folk arriving. The organizers had bought up and distributed every small American flag in Central Indiana – never have I seen such a sea of “rojo, blanco y azul” !

Sharkbabe- left you something on the prev. thread.

This was clipped from powerline last week:

April 09, 2006
Ready. Aim. Shoot!

Another round of pro-illegal immigration demonstrations is scheduled to take place tomorrow.
[snip]
Tomorrow, pro-illegal immigration demonstrations are planned to take place in around 60 cities. You can find the schedule of events here. If the past is any guide, conventional news coverage of the demonstrations is likely to be unilluminating. We think this is an opportunity for a bit of citizen journalism. Anyone with a video camera (or most digital cameras) can attend one of the demonstrations and record what he sees. How many people are participating in the demonstration? What signs are they carrying? What flags? Who seems to be in charge? If people are arriving in buses, who runs the buses? Are professionally made signs being distributed? If so, by whom? How about flags? How visible are radical groups like A.N.S.W.E.R.?

We’re encouraging our readers, and anyone else who is able, to attend the demonstration in your city and record what you see.
[snip]

Why do Republicans Hate Latinos?

Most of them don’t, really — but they luv to demagogue immigration and scapegoat Latinos, in search of the wild Wing Nut Vote.

Analyze and discuss . . .

Hey, stop telling The Christy to relax & stay away, she’s a grownup girl & inescapably & thankfully drawn to the save our country orbit!

*ilson, without giving away my location, let me say that there weren’t any demos here. People probably too scared- that’s one explanation. But I did participate in spirit.

I pity her children…

Oh, don’t worry. They’ll briefly toe the line and then go absolutely insane when they get to college. They’ll become transgendered performance artists, write for Mother Jones and only date black bisexual Haitians. If she was your mother, wouldn’t you just love making the veins on her forehead pop out?

Xerox Ben called Mrs. King a Communist, fully assuming nefarious motives lay concealed behind the civil rights movement. Powerline too assumes the dread Hand of International Communism is secretly manipulating our happy-go-lucky lettuce-pickers…

Bullgoose #14- great research, as usual!

Republicans Hate Latinos

spread the meme . . .

see the frame narrative at 15 –

but spread the meme . . .

Valley Girl – ha ha – I daresay the fiction writings of Scooter Libby are enough to make any human renounce all sexuality forever. Thank gods I’ve only read enough itty bits to make me recoil and run.

VG,

Couldn’t miss it. The call to camera’s was all over wingnuttia. Spontaneous ‘citizen journalism’ to prove Latino demonstrations are staged events.

Malkin and the swine who read her are jealous more than anything. Progressives routinely turn out hundreds of thousands for peaceful marches, while the freepi can barely gather a handful of the true believers for their causes. They are in the minority and they know it, and it serves to feed their persection complex. It’s a vicious and ugly cycle.

One evening, an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people. He said, “My son, the battle is between two wolves. One is evil: it is anger, envy, regret, greed, arrogance, self pity, guilt, lies, false pride, superiority and ego. The other is good: it is joy, peace, love, humility, kindness, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith. The grandson thought for a minute and asked, ” Which wolf wins?” The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”

Islander, that is perfect.

Bullgoose #23- I still say great research!! I just haven’t been able to delve into wingnuttia the way that you have, in such a thorough way. Props! Being from CA, I understood how the amazingly huge LA demos happened, and was swept up in the story as it unfolded. But I didn’t even think to consider what the right-wingers might be doing in response. Now I know!!!

Thank you, islander.
That made my head stop hurting.

Billmon — Munich:

http://billmon.org/archives/002385.html

Munich: The Untold Story

What Ahmadinejad is not, however, is the absolute dictator of an advanced industrial state with a first-rate military. To pretend that he currently poses the same kind of threat to the world (or even to the Jewish people) that Hitler did in 1938 – or that he will pose such a threat any time within the next decade – is ridiculous. It also discredits the very legitimate concerns that the world should have about Iran and the future of the Iranian revolution.

Which brings me, in a roundabout way, back to my point about Munich. In the neocon wisdom tale, Munich is always about Neville Chamberlain and that scrap of paper. But that’s only half the story – or not even half. Hitler might never have risen to power in the first place if the allies had dealt justly with Germany and the other defeated powers at Versailles, or if the Western governments of the 1920s and early ’30s had shown one tenth the willingness to compromise with the democratic governments of the Weimer Republic that they later did to appease the Nazi regime.

The source of much of Hitler’s political appeal – and the topic of most of his stump speeches before coming to power – was the spinelessness of the Weimer politicians in kowtowing to the Versailles Treaty, and the need for a strong leader who would stand up to the allies. The British and French only understand force, the would-be Furhrer shrieked. Germany must take what was rightfully hers, instead of going hat in hand to plead for concessions.

And of course, the allies proved Hitler right. They insisted on enforcing every humiliating clause of the terms dictated at Versailles. They surrounded Germany with an encircling alliance of smaller states. They forced the German economy deeper and deeper into debt to finance the insane war reparations they demanded. Weimar – and democracy – were discredited and disgraced in the eyes of millions of ordinary Germans long before they started flocking to Hitler’s rallies.

And after the Nazis took power, the allies proved Hitler right yet again: They willingly gave him what they had refused the democratic governments of Weimer. They cowered before his initial, hollow threats, letting him march into the Rhineland when they could have squashed the German army like a bug. Is it any wonder Hitler’s popularity soared, allowing him to crush all domestic opposition and take the first steps towards the Final Solution?

…

The irony is that the point when America was in the best possible position to dictate a deal (an ultimatum, really) to the Iranians – after the fall of Baghdad three years ago – was also the point when the Cheney administration was least willing to even think about negotiations. Such is the price of hubris. Given what’s happened since then, is it any surprise that the uranium “crisis” – and Ahmadinejad’s defiance – have only boosted his political popularity and clout?

War in Our Time

And so the most promising opportunities for a rational settlement have all passed us by. Instead of a moderate reform president and a group of nervous ayatollahs anxious to cut a deal, America now has Ahmadinejad – and the dawn of what could conceivably become an explicitly fascist regime in Iran, or at least a very close substitute for one.

The good news, such as it is, is that Ahmadinejad’s end-times ideology doesn’t seem to include any grand territorial ambitions: no “Greater Iran” (Iran is already a greater Iran), no lebensraum in the east. We also have time – time to see how things shake out, to see if the ayatollahs can hamstring their troublesome protege, to see if the democracy movement can make a political comeback. Time for Ahmadinejad to lose some of his popular shine as Iran’s internal problems worsen. Time for our own hardline warmongers to be booted out of power.

But unfortunately, our divinely ordained president may not be prepared to wait (and the last sentence of the preceding paragraph appears to be one of the reasons.) Which means at this point we probably should be worrying less about what happened in Munich in 1938, and more about what happened there in 1972, when the German police moved in and tried to disarm the terrorists.

Multiply that carnage by a thousand, or a million, and you’ve got more than a political slogan; you’ve got a war.

islander– thanks for reminding us all of that great parable. Just in time for sleep. ;)

Grover Norquist said very clearly on my teevee the other night: If Republicans increase their percentage of the Latino vote, they will be the governing party for the next forty years. If not, not.

So why do REPUBLICANS HATE LATINOS?

Redd — thanks for digging in the Malkin Muck so the rest of us can keep our pumps pretty! This is quite a collection you’ve assembled. I imagine Len Downie will have to call up another WaPo page A01 profile of a crazy left wing blogger to make up for this episode of Late Nite FDL: Right Wing.

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Had enough?
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So why do REPUBLICANS HATE LATINOS?
for the same reason that they love them, according to their particular political purpose at the moment. Sorry, I see that this might be coming out wrong… only to say that they are experts at exploitation.

Some one probably already posted this already. But the Bushites have gone full-on Big Lie on immigration reform goof-up. I guess they finally figured out it backfired Big Time on them (Again! Sheesh… I coulda told them that a six months ago. I wouldn’t have charged them much for the consulting either).

A long time ago and far far away, the House GOP decided it wanted to change the criminal charges for being undocumented from felony to misdemeanor, because that way they can put the undocomented workers in jail faster cheaper and easier. Democrats vote against that amendment. So the GOP is spreadhing Big Lie on Spanish radio stations that it is the Democrats who want to felonize being undocumented.

So you heard it here first, or maybe second for third… Here are the talkingpointsmemo links:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c…..008224.php
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c…..008221.php

If media and pundidiots go along with this, they ought be “Howelled” on it. I will post any thing I see worthy and see if FDL might take the hint.

TeddySF,
I saw your post at ABlog.
John sure had another HOWLER of a post on McKinney, didn’t he?

Digby thinks the war with Iran has already started. I think Digby is right.

My reaction to this post. 1) We truly are at war with the American nazis of fear/hatred, and the reason they keep winning is the MSM. Why the fuck on earth is this Malkin the slightest force or even known to anyone? 2) Answer: Neiwert territory – the steady relentless mainstreaming of fear creepshow sickness. For profit.

Man do we have our work cut out.

Why doesn’t Malkin just move into a White Supremacist compound and live out her views?

Sharkbabe, there are only two reasons Michelle Malkin is known by anyone beyond her own neighborhood association and PTA.

The left one and the right one.

And that is not a charge I level lightly.

“Grover Norquist said very clearly on my teevee the other night: If Republicans increase their percentage of the Latino vote, they will be the governing party for the next forty years.”

That is why the RNC is pushing openly false radio ads claiming that Harry Reid and the Democrats were the authors of the “felony” provision in the immigration bill.

When you get caught, just lie about it.

-GSD

Thesaurus, please elaborate – ain’t gettin #39

GSD-

When you get caught, just lie about it.

If I make take a page from our dear Norske Flame Thrower:

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE SODIUM PENTOTHAL!!

I’ve taken to calling the migrants who come sin papel “unauthorized immigrants.” We’ve all done unauthorized things in our time, and we (should) all QUESTION authority. Thus the term connects us to the focus of this frequently incendiary debate: people, human beings just like us whether they arrived last month or, like my paleo-Siberian ancesters, hundreds of generations ago

There was a higher percentage of foreign-born Americans in 1910 than there are now. Every new group that has arrived, since Christy’s Irish ancestors started coming in large numbers in the 1820s, has met with anger and resistance (and discriminatory laws) by those already here. “They work for less,” “They’re different,” “They will change the America we know and love,” “They don’t speak English” is always the cry. (Well, the Irish spoke English, sort of.)

Let me repeat myself for the umpteenth time. Whatever immigration reform occurs, it should pay attention to the fact that human migration is a symptom, not a cause.

Globalization, which I believe is inevitable, entails economic, political, social and environmental aspects, and migrating people is one of them. The job of progressives ought to be to make the globalization transition – which will probably last 50 years – less difficult, to do what we can so that it isn’t a “race for the bottom,” to push for a sustainable economics within a sustainable environment, to bolster the safety and health of laborers (whether they work in agriculture, industrial jobs or the knowledge field).

I’d be the last to deny that this issue touches a lot of people in the pocketbook. And policy reform must recognize that. But many of us with Indian blood wonder a about this latest round of demands for slamming the door shut because of dislocations migration is causing.

Isolating America by making it the world’s largest gated community won’t benefit any of us in the long run.

Sharky-

The left breast and the right one.

illegal immigration is a symptom of corporations trying to screw the US worker. I understand that US companies run ads in Mexico touting the (illegal) jobs here.

I wish I could remember who described Michelle Malkin as “so racist she’d arrest herself for jaywalking. If she didn’t have cleavage, she’d still be writing for townhall.com”. I thought that was particularly apt.

T-Rex,

This is an early sign that the Republicans will engage in a scorched earth policy in the 2006 elections. They will lie and steal and cheat at a level unheard of in American politics…and it that doesn’t work for them….God knows how low they will sink.

-GSD

OfT: ‘National Journal’: Cheney Ordered Libby to Leak 2002 Report
By E&P Staff
Published: April 14, 2006 4:15 PM ET
“NEW YORK Vice President Dick Cheney on July 12, 2003, directed Lewis ‘Scooter” Libby, his chief of staff, to leak to reporters portions of a then-highly classified CIA report, according to Libby’s grand jury testimony in the Plame case and sources who have read the classified report, the National Journal reported on its Web site Friday afternoon. Cheney hoped this would undermine the credibility of former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson, Murray Waas writes….”
http://www.editorandpublisher……1002344659

As others have said today, it’s all about spreading hate and fear. Fear that there are going to be drastic, horrible “changes”. That’s absurd, of course. I have to let Mr. Bill (Personality Disorder Man) weigh in (reluctantly) on the subject:

O’REILLY: The unintended consequence of that is that America is going to change. It’s going to change in cultural ways, in racial ways, in intellectual ways, in voting ways, in every way. Now, do we, as American citizens, all of us, want that change to come about through illegal methods? This isn’t the ballot box. This is, throw it open, let anybody come, and then we’ll have a new America. That’s what Charles Barron wants, and it’s absolutely what the left-wing press wants. They see an opportunity to overthrow what they call the white, privileged, Christian nation. They overthrow that.

Even though most Hispanics are Christian, the left believes that Hispanics who come to the USA will vote left. Now I’m not so convinced of that myself, but Barron certainly believes it. “People of color will vote the way I vote, and we’ll kick out all the white people and we’ll have a rainbow nation, not a white power structure.”

Mr. Bill and Malkin: Poor, sad, deluded, emotionally and spiritually bankrupt people.

OfT: “Report: Rumsfeld allowed Guantanamo abuse”
“Defense secretary reportedly authorized degradation of al-Qaida detainee”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12319090/

Well, I’m not too “up” on this Malkin person….but obviously she is slanted beyond all reason. I keep thinking that the Democrats are, once again (sigh) missing some excellant chances at running the repugs into the ground. How? Damn, make Malkin the “poster-girl” of the republicans. Claim (albeit with exaggeration) that she personifies all republicans. Put THEM on the defensive…let THEM waste time explaining how Malkin isn’t a true republican, doesn’t personify republican mainstream thinking, etc etc etc.
STOP calling nutcases like Malkin “wingnuts”, “nutcases” (ha, I just did, chuckle), right-wing moonbats, etc etc. Call them ONLY one thing: “typical republican”.
Is that fair, or accurate?? Nooo, but those bastards have done the SAME thing to Democrats over the past 25 years. All Democrats are called tree-huggin veg heads, lefty whacko marshmellow liberals, etc etc. We’re NOT those things….but it’s time to fight fire with fire. My biggest complaint about the Democratic party I so love is that, some time ago, we got afraid to fight. And no, I don’t mean “Feingold principles” fights….I mean back alley, knuckle busting, jaw popping mean-as-Texas FIGHTING.
Call bastards such as O’Reilly simply a “typical republican”…same for that witch Coulter, and same for Malkin. When you call these jerks “wingnuts” or some such….you let the republicans off the hook. THEY call us all sorts of damn broadbrush names…we can either sit and take it, or fight back. Good luck, Ghostman

#29 ck: thanks for alerting me to that post by Billmon. I am not sure I agree with all of it, and probably have to read up on the history to have an informed opinion. But I think much of his argument is exactly right. Bush has missed oppoturnities and has had the knack for doing exactly the wrong thing at the wrong time to get us into many irreversible fixes. Another example is the Israel/Palestine mess. Is that better or worse now? Remember his brilliant comment that US should just let them fight it out and we will deal with whoever is left after the dust settles. OK, so now we have Hamas running Palestine. Great. This is not all Georgie’s fault, but he sure did a lot of nothing to stop it and quite a bit to helpt it along.

GSD: Is there a Malkin cleavage scandal? I had no idea. Thanks for pointing that out. I can’t find any informative pics on the internet. Keep us posted.

GSD: you are also right about what is coming from GOP. Democrats who hope playing nice and quiet will get them someplace will be very disappointed. Don’t that politics stuff keep you from working the Malkin scandal, though.

Malkin is a Jean-Schmidt KKKlone.

Malkin is Ann Coulter in cheaper shoes.

Ann Coulter is Hannity with balls.

John Casper @ 50

Saw that earlier today … the fish rots from the head and this one stinks to high heaven. More pics of dead and tortured people were found on those computer thingies found in the bazaar in Afghanistan. The abuse of detainees is widespread and came from the leadership. Whatever happened to the rules of war where we are supposed to treat our captured with humanity? It all went poof with 9/11 and the subsequent demonization of those people. Makes me sick. Why do so many of our soldiers still think Saddam was responsible for 9/11? 9/11 justifies so much to so many– it continues to this very minute. The damage has been done to the psyche of many, thanks to bushco.

For anyone (Len Downie?) who missed these Wolcott and Jesus’ General posts.

LGF wants Wolcott’s head

The following posts should be read in order. For some reason, they all point to the top of the page.

Little Green Fashions and Accessories

Christian school needs little green spatulas

Little Green Death Threats

I only know Malkin from the blogosphere. I barely turn on my tv which is where this crap exists.

I wrote the most shockingly brazen email ever to my almost girlfriend. I mean, its audacious hungry brilliance would make everybody smile

Got invited to a cool seder this weekend but unfortunatly must go to Rehoboth Beach DE to play with band tomorrow night – life is a car – life is ass in a car, endless

You know, I recently lost my job.. to a Mexican! (Insert dramatic chord.) No, I’m not a dishwasher. (Calm down, Michelle.) It’s like this: Tyco recently moved our plant to Hermosillo, Mexico. After years of downsizing, we’d been wittled down to about 140 employees before they decided to drop the boom.

I won’t hold my breath waiting for Malkin to get off her racist “illegal!” soapbox long enough to go after the people who took our jobs. It’s the robber barons all over again, plain and simple, and Michelle’s job is to stoke the flames of ignorance and fear, to obscure what’s really going on in this country. I doubt she’s sophisticated enough to know what she’s doing, though, or to what end she’s being used.

Sharkbabe: *audacious hungry brilliance* great turn of phrase. Same rallying cry for the fever swamp (our part of it), I say.

Vaughan Amerling #49: O’Reilly’s gone stark raving mad. That’s all there is too it. I saw that pic of him with the screen shot of the Easter Bunny in a local paper and thought it was a joke. I read the story twice going “Whaa!?” -I thought it was a hoax. Then Cynthia Tucker calls him a fool on it, and he over reacts to that. I guess the war on Easter storyline bombed. No wonder, since few are ignorant or stupid enough to think that an multicolored rabbit that lays psychedelic eggs is a Christian symbol.

And anyway, I have been told by sophistocated people in the know that the Easter Bunny is a well known metrosexual.

I guess I am over the Malking cleavage scandal, though if anyone has pics I will be willing to reconsider. I saw a picture of Cynthia Tucker and I think she is much more attractive (though I realize that this type of argumentation is not up to FDL standards, please forgive me). And thinks better and writes better too.

Seriously, I think Tucker’s column on immigration is very good, and here is the link
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmp…..p;cid=1345

Thanks Angie, I am so revolted by the story, I don’t even follow it too closely. My tax dollars to teach someone how to torture….
I linked the story, because of the timing. I suspect, without any evidence, that these Generals have been talking about asking Rumsfeld to resign for awhile. They know the WH will try and “swift boat” them, so it only made sense to me that they would come out together and try to leak this kind of stuff. Whatever else happens, they are imo setting a great example of what real patriotism is. I hope a lot of other retired one’s come out and support them.

#35 — well. marky, it’s great you saw my post over there, because it’s gone now. Perhaps John’s uninterested in hearing from readers who question why he’s going after McKinney again….

Me too, John, me too. I desperately want the whole shameful lot of them exposed for their high crimes, war crimes, and on and on…

TeddySanFran #63: I read the post, and linked through to the story. The actual story was much different than I anticipated. The Americablog post made it seem like a back room deal. The news story was about a raucus dust-up at a community meeting -some harsh words and raw nerves, and people losing their cool. Not very attractive, but not what was portrayed in the post at all. So, in that sense, it does look like the post was a cheap hit on McKinney. And I am not a big McKinney fan in some ways, so I got no dog in the fight.

VG, never been so audacious in my life with anybody.

That old cliche, “life is short, act as if your life’s over tomorrow etc etc”

Well here we are.

BullGoose, thank you for the links to the General.

On the flashdrives, and other new evidence that torture orders camee from top: it is infuriating, it is disgusting, the moral and national security damage makes you want to cry and vomit and bang your head against the wall. But… it is good that the truth is coming out. Now we have to watch that it is reported, even if the stories makes us gag, we have to watch and make the media bosses pay when they try to cover it up. I don’t think it is cover-up-able at this point, but they will try, at least until first Wednesday in November.

Yes, those General posts were wonderful. I want me an LGFs leather jacket now.

Sharkbabe #66 true words, which I need to be reminded of on occasion. Break a leg (so to say).

Sharkbabe, oh, p.s. trust your *inner librarian* *g* And with that sound advice, nite all.

#65 — I have no dog in this hunt, either, but now I wonder why my comment was removed. Oh, well, I’ve asked in the current A-b open thread; maybe I’ll find out I did something wrong. There were many critical comments, but mine was the first to ask whether there was something else we needed to know.

Who knows who’s trexing over there, and why?

JC. You are welcome.
Wesgpc. Not interested in the mousepad? You must have a laptop.

#59 JWR says:
You know, I recently lost my job.. to a Mexican!

Been there. Department by department, the company moved south. A Mexican electrical engineer was sent over to learn the ropes shortly before the machinery was shipped out of my dept. His pay was less than that of the lowest paid temporary laborer we had. We knew that the average Mexican worker got screwed, but we had no idea that highly skilled workers got reamed as well. The disparity must be known to every employee in the Maquilladora’s. Why wouldn’t they want to cross the border?

Teddy – this seems to be a repeat of JohnA’s earlier McKinney trashing and resulting censorship of his comment section. The article he links to is old, this story is not new news and once again he has done a hatchet job on her … the only diff is that this time he didn’t trash the NAACP, Harry Belafonte and more. I find his treatment of McKinney a major embarassment esp as we work to out the racist essence of the bigotsphere. And his choice of posts to delete is not logical nor was it last time around. Clearly we have a new Rovian attack game going after Conyers and McKinney – wonder why … and wonder why JohnA is so cooperative with that attack. Personally I’m boycotting his site and suggest others do as well – racist attacks are unacceptable, whether from the left or the right.

I’m obsessed with the anagramgenius anagram generator.

‘Little Green Fucktards’ anagrams to ‘Feculent Dark Glitters.’

marky (55) said

Ann Coulter is Hannity with balls.

Does this mean that they both like bukkake?

(Sorry, I had to; that animated song with the cats goes through my mind every time i read Hannity’s name…)

Just home from giving one helluva a lousy concert! Ah, but tomorrow is another night with another group…..

Malkin misses the boat Pach saw and jumped right onto – the continuing changes that acceptance of multidiversity bring to the USA. One picture struck me, that of Asian and possibly Latino immigrants holding a sign saying “stand in line!”

Over the 500+ years immigrants have been encroaching upon North and South America, I’ll bet more than half broke one law or another. My paternal ancestor here, Nicholas Munger, came to Connecticut in the 1630s as an indentured farm worker. He had to lie about his religion to get on the boat. Period.

The history of European settlement of the USA is a tale of contractors creating or bending laws to get bodies willing to pay to be here here, or of getting legislative bodies to accept the newest terms for getting them in here to do one job or another at the lowest price possible. When Europeans became too expensive, the contractors turned elsewhere. NPR covered Brazilians in NOLA today.

Many choose Canada with a lot less fuss or bother. The winter months take a little bit of getting used to though.

#73 BullGoose – Just got back to see what’s up and I find I’m not the only one here who’s felt the industrial sting of the mighty multi-national. Same scenario in my case except it was a mechanical engineer looking over my shoulder all day. During the ‘04 campaign, I remember Kerry pledging to offer tax incentives for companies keeping their US plants open, so I’m not sure if I should be more upset at Kerry for losing, or at Bush for, well, not losing. (hard to say Bush and winning in the same sentence. Just doesn’t sound right, does it?)

Rome was built on really cheap labor. I hear it looked pretty good when they got through with it. Then they gave it to the christians and they let the place go to hell.

Speaking of hell, here’s some pictures out of Iraq the WaPo ain’t puttin’ on the front page..Yes, there’s lots of dead and wounded.

http://www.infoshop.org/inews/…..1322552586

OT

from the Washington Post’s article about Rumsfeld:

Rumsfeld’s admirers, though, characterized the complaining generals as malcontents unhappy with the secretary’s attempts to restructure the armed forces for the 21st century. “Look, he’s trying to change an institution that is very set in its ways, and that’s not easy,” said Richard N. Perle, former chairman of the Defense Policy Board. “You’ve got some disgruntled former officers. It’s no big deal.”

Unbelievable. Simply unbelievable.

#74 siun says: “Personally I’m boycotting his site and suggest others do as well”

I’m on board with that.

If you look at those pictures, remember the quote about Matthew Brady’s pictures from Antietam.

“If Mr. Brady has not laid the dead at our door step, he has done something very much like it.”

From a Reuters article about Rumsfeld:

“The question at this point is not whether Secretary Rumsfeld should resign, it’s whether he should be indicted,” said Joanne Mariner, Terrorism and Counterterrorism Program director at Human Rights Watch”

I still think Charles Johnson’s redirect campaign to send people from FDL to the Israeli Defense Forces website is the epitome of ironic.

Charles to the best of my knowledge is a chickenhawk (I cannot find anything to suggest military service, even though he was 18 in 1971…) but redirects people to the website of the Israeli Defense Forces, Israel’s army in which service is mandatory.

Umm, I’m not really sure I want to figure out what Michelle Malkin is saying…it’s usually something bad.

Christy – I am SO glad you did this. I was over at Malkin’s a couple times wondering how she would deal with the Leaker-in-Chief stories coming out (and nary a little marshmallow peep on, must never’ve happened!) and saw all these photographis and was horrified, just horrified.

She is the person who is spreading the idea that mexicans are crossing into the US illegally as part of some aztec notion of re-conquista (even though the Spaniards, not the US were the original conquistas, but nevermind these details are irrelevant in Michelle’s mind).

Here is an shocking bit from Michelle on the Falafel show:

From the March 30 edition of Fox News’ The O’Reilly Factor:

O’REILLY: Joining us now from Edmonton, Canada, Dr. Raul Hinojosa, who teaches international development at UCLA, and from Raleigh, North Carolina, syndicated columnist Michelle Malkin, the author of the book Invasion: How America Still Welcomes Terrorists, Criminals and Other Foreign Menaces to Our Shores [Regnery, 2002]. All right, Michelle, begin with you. The rhetoric is getting ratcheted up. Now, Ms. [The Nation editor Katrina] vanden Heuvel, who you saw, or heard, on the ABC News program, is an extreme left-wing person. But you know, the personal attacks fast and furious — and then there’s the Mexican flag. What say you?

MALKIN: Well, Katrina vanden Heuvel is a shameless smear merchant, and she’s also very clueless and blind. She underscores something that I’ve noted for a long time about the far left, and that is their own blindness towards racism and ethnic separatism on the part of politically incorrect minorities within their own ranks. While she was smearing Congressman [Tom] Tancredo [R-CO], who has done nothing — nothing more than insist that we enforce our borders and that the federal government fulfill its obligation to provide for the common defense, while she was doing that, take a look at what was happening in Los Angeles. Just open your eyes, Ms. vanden Heuvel.

It was the far left, the open-borders activists, who were the ones who are the extremists, who were the ones advocating militant ethnic separatism. This is our stolen land. Chicano power. You had folks with Aztlan T-shirts mugging for the cameras in front of city hall. These are people who believe that the American southwest belongs to Mexico, that we don’t have a right to enforce our borders, and who do nothing more than try to sabotage our sovereignty.

[…]

O’REILLY: We are going to be as fair as humanly possible here on this whole issue. But what did the Mexican flag say to you, Michelle?

MALKIN: Well, first of all, do not buy Dr. Hinojosa’s spin. He sounds very reasonable. He sounds very benign, but the kind of quote-unquote “pride” that a lot of these illegal alien activists are touting now goes much further than just being proud about one’s heritage and one’s roots. The idea, the intellectual underpinnings of reconquista are embraced by the vast majority of mainstream Hispanic politicians, as well as the international –

O’REILLY: How do you know that, Michelle? How do you know that?

MALKIN: Because I’ve read — because I’ve read the history. And look at it — can I –

HINOJOSA: Not true.

View the clip at media matters.

As Media Matters shows, Malkin is twisting the 9ahem) facts in a particularly perverse way:

Reconquista is a term associated with El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán, the founding document of the Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan (Chicano Student Movement of Aztalan, or MEChA), a group with affiliates at numerous college campuses and several high schools that claims to work toward “improving the social and political situation of the Chicano/Latino community.” In an August 20, 2003, column, Malkin called MEChA “an identity politics indoctrination machine on publicly subsidized college and high school campuses nationwide that would make David Duke and the KKK turn green with envy.” Critics claim that El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán outlines a plan of recapturing the southwestern United States for Mexico.

But Aztlan and reconquista are concepts promoted by “white supemacists and neo-Nazis” more than by Mexicans or Mexican-Americans, according to a March 30 column by Alex Koppleman, a columnist for Drexel University’s biweekly online magazine Dragonfire:

“Aztlan and reconquista these days aren’t, for the most part, ideas held by Mexicans: they’re ideas held by white supremacists and neo-Nazis. The myth of reconquista stems from a misreading of one of the founding documents of the Chicano movement, “El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan.”

[…]

A simple Google search shows that the people talking about Aztlan and reconquista are predominantly not Mexican (though there are some radical fringe groups) but white supremacists.

The entire piece is over at Media Matters, with lots of links and is really worth a dive.

I think that the reason I find Malkin so unsettling, perhaps more so than Coulter, is that there is not even a hint of irony in what she says – as their is with Coulter (I always get the feeling that she is playing a particularly vicious stand-up comedy routine and laughing hysterically all the way to the bank “oh my god, I can’t believe so many morons bought this crap!) – rather Malkin is deadly serious. Not that she believes what she says (she can’t possibly, as I do not believe she is that stupid or ignorant), but it is as if she is motivated by some sort of extremely pernicious hatred – I mean the way she goes after blacks & latinos, if she were white, it would be plausible to assume she is a neo-nazi a member of the KKK.

Have a great trip Christy when you do finally get outta town!

tw 87 – the Media Matters link did not work: http://mediamatters.org/items/200604010001

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/4/15/6556/58209

Timely to this thread [though slightly OT?]

DarkSyde’s profound, moving essay “If I were a Christian” on DailyKos this a.m. Should be required reading for all these Bushco minions and rightwing hate mongers.

DS and the commenters are the kind of people we need more of in the universe. And the discourse.

Thesaurus 39 from last night

mmmm…

dammit, don’t bring breasts into this!
:)

Why give Malkin the time of day? She is a third-rate columnist whose “writings” only appear in lunatic fringe pulications.

Writing a blog about her vicious racism only gives her notoriety. And notoriety is all she wants, along with the speaking fees that come with it.

Ignore her.

Kudos to Redd for holding her nose and creating this thread. One clarification is warranted (thnx TBogg), it is unproven if malkin’s posts are entirely of her or her husband’s fabrication.

hey you calling my local newspaper lunatic fringe? (91)

well maybe it is at that……

:)

“…immigrants suck..â€

I think you left out a modifier there. No one I know has a problem with immigrants. The problem is ILLEGAL immigrants.

Malkin did not make those signs correct? You are not disputing that those are real signs, or that the MSM will not in fact let folks know the truth by balancing their coverage… Certainly they are not going to mention ANSWER’s role here, lest they have to mention what ANSWER actually is…

These people are flouting our laws – surely the prosecutor in you takes offense to that.

OFF TOPIC: The WAPO once more tries to fight back against liberals. The article today about raging liberal bloggers, complete with angry photo, is just a peach. http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01648.html

Now, they have the decency to point out that the rage which was once the right’s trademark (as if it still isn’t). But the point is clear. Lefty bloggers are just bitter rageaholics.

Classic misrepresentation. Take an outlyer and make that case the prime example.

Also, they say nothing about two important factors: 1) All anger is not rage, and the sense of boiling over, seething 24/7 outrage is not just misrepresentative, it is an outright lie the way the WAPO tells it. 2) The journalist, Finkel, does not seem to conscience that there can be legitimate anger, especially toward a President who is now less popular, less trusted and more strongly disliked by the public than any since Truman was in office.

So anger is seemingly always inappropriate and lefties aren’t just angry, they are cross-eyed batshit crazy from rage.

I would hope they would do a piece next week singling out Charles Johnson or one of the more viscious racists from RedState and title it “The Right, Online and Aryan.” It would be as fair as this slap back at the liberal blogs which embarrassed the WAPO over Ben Domenech. Actually, it would be much more fair because the portion of unrepentant racists on RedState and LGF is more than sizable and presence of frothy-mouthed ragemeisters on left blogs simply isn’t that great.

This is from a post on my homepage titled, “Latest Republican Wedgie”.

If we can’t get off our asses enmasse to protest the abuses foisted on the world by Dubya, then maybe we need some new pioneers with the grit to cross deserts, rivers, fight banditos on both sides of the river just to make a life. They have a hell of a path to citizenship and they’re showing us the way. Feel free to take notes.

Devils’s advocate 91 –

I really am always conflicted about this – must fight/expose these assholes – but rule #1 of life, do not feed the trolls/fuckheads – any attention to them whether pos or neg gives them power

The more I think about it, the more I feel like we should Ignore them into oblivion

Someone needs to do a content analysis of the discourse on prominent right and left blogs, coding for themes of bigotry, hatred (toward whom), linking, etc. Then there would be some broad data to support the examples people give about right and left blogospheres. That kind of information makes the claim that a substantial racist presence exists on the online right much more meaningful when coupled with examples. Also, it might well disprove the charicature of lefty blogs as tinfoil hat mentals.

It would not be easy becuase context is so important and coding in content analysis, if done badly, can make a hash out of context, but it would make an interesting project. Any communication scholars out there looking for a good article topic?

And moreover, I’m a perfect example of Malkin virginity/ignorance. I’ve never seen her (or her breasts) and never care to. She doesn’t exist to me.

Some guy,

I just read that WaPo article.

What the Fuck! It’s a hatchet job on the left. They hire (and defend) racist ben, and then do a hatchet job on the left blogs, replete with bad pictures (I love the juxtaposition of the cigarettes, pajamas and wine, very shrewd framing).

Once a week or so I am drawn back to the WaPo as they break an interesting tidbit, or show that they “get it”. The rest of the week I am pushed further towards thinking that for the most part, WaPo is simply shit. Didn’t we have a similiar painting of the blogosphere painted by the Times recently as well?

They must be very afraid of us. Thing is, I just can’t understand WHY.

After all, we preach competence, tolerance, education, and equal rights. We fight against those who oppose these things.

Yet they are constantly trying to undercut the message from our side. WHY?

Pisses me off.

“…words of hope, words of progress, words of a nation pulling together for a better future for all of its citizens. Words that talk of lifting up the least of these, our bretheren.”

When writers wax unctiously rhapsodic, grasping to elicit from their readers that Oprahfied smile and knowing head nod that anoints the truly enlightened, I get really scared. It’s the same tone and language Bush used to bamboozle a nation into war. It’s a tone used to skirt logic and reason — either because they aren’t on your side or you haven’t the intellect to invoke them. It sounds as sincere as those tears Alito’s wife shed looked.

There are a lot of really good arguments for according legal status to those working in this country illegally. See Eugene Robinson in the Washington Post. But spare us the Bush/Falwell/Farrakhan “my brother” bullshit.

If you can’t make your case honestly, or express your feelings without invoking manipulative “kumbaya” cliches, shut up and leave it to those with the intellectual and writerly stuff to do so.

The bit about the sschool buses, how dumb a fuck is she? School buses are owned and operated by private companies like Laidlaw — any organization can contract for buses.

Aw c’mon, take it easy on poor little Michelle. She’s clearly imminently qualified to speak to the illegal immigration issue because after all, everybody knows that Filipinos are native to the Americas.

Oh, wait…

It’s as if Michelle Malkin went to the symphony but all she could talk about was what she read on bathroom walls.

new thread

There’s one BIG thing that nearly everyone — including all the hatemongering racists on the right who worship Malkin’s every bit of dribble — forgets.

She’s got dual citizenship if she was born of Filipino parents.

Who’s she speaking for when she flaps her bigoted, racially-and-ethnically-in-denial gums?

Good post. We’re an immigrant country. It’s not the immigrants who are the “number one problem.†It’s our policies and enforcement. I have a really hard time with the idea of criminalizing people who are essentially like our grannies and grandpas were/are.

Michelle Malkin is like a psychotic sorority girl who’s in the whole right-wing thing for the kicks and the cocktail weenies, and for the pleasure of just being mean.

Where have I been? My first introduction to Michelle Malkin, and I know for sure I’d like to be that proverbial fly on the wall in her psychiatrist’s office. Whew!