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		<title>By: Sally</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/13/about-time/#comment-66705</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Who decides who our heroes are and on what basis?  Some of us couldn’t see Powell as a hero of any stripe but, because of his hero status, we did believe he would have made a huge impact if he had resigned instead of sending the country further down the road to the Iraq war with his UN drivel.  His loyalty, like the retired generals who are now speaking out against Rumsfeld, was to himself and not to the country or troops he, and the generals, solemnly swore to defend.  What utter nonsense for the active duty brass to say they have to respect their civilian leadership and not speak out against incompetent policies.  Respect works both ways, generals.  And then we have hero McCain, but that’s another sad story.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who decides who our heroes are and on what basis?  Some of us couldn’t see Powell as a hero of any stripe but, because of his hero status, we did believe he would have made a huge impact if he had resigned instead of sending the country further down the road to the Iraq war with his UN drivel.  His loyalty, like the retired generals who are now speaking out against Rumsfeld, was to himself and not to the country or troops he, and the generals, solemnly swore to defend.  What utter nonsense for the active duty brass to say they have to respect their civilian leadership and not speak out against incompetent policies.  Respect works both ways, generals.  And then we have hero McCain, but that’s another sad story.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/13/about-time/#comment-66619</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jane - I’m almost positive you’re right, and York posted his bit on NRO about the correction well before Gerstein at the Sun or the WaPo.  York’s time was 7 p.m. on the dot, if I recall correctly.  It’s possible that the correction letter was emailed out to all the press outlets at the same time, and York is just more vigilant about checking his email, or happened to be around when it arrived, and didn’t have to write a story about the whole thing, so he was able to get his post up sooner than others.  But it’s also quite possible the Comstock pipeline was turned on to him sooner than others.  If it was Team Libby that sent out word on Tuesday evening.  Here’s something weird.  The first report I saw today on Walton’s order and pique, which came from the AP, was unequivocal:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Walton appears upset over the release Tuesday night of a letter from Fitzgerald to the judge correcting one sentence in a prosecution filing from a week ago. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Libby’s defense team released the letter to reporters via e-mail Tuesday night.&lt;/b&gt; The letter didn’t show up on the court’s docket until Wednesday afternoon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But the Post and the Times for tomorrow are much less clear on the source of the letter, and in fact if anything appear to suggest it came from Fitzgerald rather than Team Libby.  It’s easy to imagine Fitzgerald might have wanted to get word out to the press outlets that had written unintentionally misleading stories asap, though I sort of doubt he would circumvent normal procedures that way.  It’s also easy to imagine Team Libby wanted to get this out asap and first to the more friendly outlets.  Especially since today’s York story seems so obviously written at Comstock’s bidding, to reassure Cheney that he is not in danger from Libby and is not deserving of suspicion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was surprised to see my innocent question to clarice described in the previous thread as a punking.  It was just genuine curiosity.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane &#8211; I’m almost positive you’re right, and York posted his bit on NRO about the correction well before Gerstein at the Sun or the WaPo.  York’s time was 7 p.m. on the dot, if I recall correctly.  It’s possible that the correction letter was emailed out to all the press outlets at the same time, and York is just more vigilant about checking his email, or happened to be around when it arrived, and didn’t have to write a story about the whole thing, so he was able to get his post up sooner than others.  But it’s also quite possible the Comstock pipeline was turned on to him sooner than others.  If it was Team Libby that sent out word on Tuesday evening.  Here’s something weird.  The first report I saw today on Walton’s order and pique, which came from the AP, was unequivocal:</p>
<p><i>Walton appears upset over the release Tuesday night of a letter from Fitzgerald to the judge correcting one sentence in a prosecution filing from a week ago. </i></p>
<p><b>Libby’s defense team released the letter to reporters via e-mail Tuesday night.</b> The letter didn’t show up on the court’s docket until Wednesday afternoon.</p>
<p>But the Post and the Times for tomorrow are much less clear on the source of the letter, and in fact if anything appear to suggest it came from Fitzgerald rather than Team Libby.  It’s easy to imagine Fitzgerald might have wanted to get word out to the press outlets that had written unintentionally misleading stories asap, though I sort of doubt he would circumvent normal procedures that way.  It’s also easy to imagine Team Libby wanted to get this out asap and first to the more friendly outlets.  Especially since today’s York story seems so obviously written at Comstock’s bidding, to reassure Cheney that he is not in danger from Libby and is not deserving of suspicion.</p>
<p>I was surprised to see my innocent question to clarice described in the previous thread as a punking.  It was just genuine curiosity.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrible</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/13/about-time/#comment-66451</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 02:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;angie at 2:23 pm&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What are the chances of MEK having a handful of agents infilitrating al-Queda say in the ’90s to preform some unknown actions for their handlers in the early years of the 21st century? Or am I better off not knowing?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>What are the chances of MEK having a handful of agents infilitrating al-Queda say in the ’90s to preform some unknown actions for their handlers in the early years of the 21st century? Or am I better off not knowing?</p>
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		<title>By: thoroughly surly</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/13/about-time/#comment-66443</link>
		<dc:creator>thoroughly surly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 02:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Francis Fukuyama said, on book tv (c-span) a few weeks ago, that he contributed to libby’s defense fund… being a close friend and all… he was compelled.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Francis Fukuyama said, on book tv (c-span) a few weeks ago, that he contributed to libby’s defense fund… being a close friend and all… he was compelled.</p>
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		<title>By: spiiderweb</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/13/about-time/#comment-66423</link>
		<dc:creator>spiiderweb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The MEK is really &lt;a href=&quot;http://spiiderweb.blogspot.com/2006/02/yeah-75-m-should-cover-it.html&quot;&gt;old news&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MEK is really <a href="http://spiiderweb.blogspot.com/2006/02/yeah-75-m-should-cover-it.html">old news</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: DELBERT MATHANEY</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/13/about-time/#comment-66359</link>
		<dc:creator>DELBERT MATHANEY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;VALERIE PFLAME WAS  WORKING ON THE IRANIAN WEAPONS AND PROLIFERATION. RECALL?  GEE, SHES’ NOT ANY MORE… I SUPPOSE NONE OF HERE CONTACTS ARE EITHER.  PROSSIBLY, THEY ARE DEAD AND PERHAPS A FEW HAVE GONE UNDERGROUND YOU THINK.  HOW CONVENTIENT NOW TO NOT HAVE ANY INSIGHTS INTO THE IRANIAN’S NUCLEAR ADVANCES.  HOW VERY HANDY TO HAVE IT SHUT OFF QUITE SOME TIME BACK… BEFORE THIS SABRE RATTLING COULD GROW TO SUCH  HEIGHT OF FRIGHT…AND ANOTHER STRIKE IN THE MIDDLE EAST OIL FIELDS. GOD, THATS SO CO-INCIDENTAL. YOU THINK SO? SO MANY DISTRACTIONS — ROVE MUST BE CLOSE TO BEING TIRED. WONDER WHAT HIS CHART BOARD LOOKS LIKE ?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VALERIE PFLAME WAS  WORKING ON THE IRANIAN WEAPONS AND PROLIFERATION. RECALL?  GEE, SHES’ NOT ANY MORE… I SUPPOSE NONE OF HERE CONTACTS ARE EITHER.  PROSSIBLY, THEY ARE DEAD AND PERHAPS A FEW HAVE GONE UNDERGROUND YOU THINK.  HOW CONVENTIENT NOW TO NOT HAVE ANY INSIGHTS INTO THE IRANIAN’S NUCLEAR ADVANCES.  HOW VERY HANDY TO HAVE IT SHUT OFF QUITE SOME TIME BACK… BEFORE THIS SABRE RATTLING COULD GROW TO SUCH  HEIGHT OF FRIGHT…AND ANOTHER STRIKE IN THE MIDDLE EAST OIL FIELDS. GOD, THATS SO CO-INCIDENTAL. YOU THINK SO? SO MANY DISTRACTIONS — ROVE MUST BE CLOSE TO BEING TIRED. WONDER WHAT HIS CHART BOARD LOOKS LIKE ?</p>
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		<title>By: rat bastahd</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/13/about-time/#comment-66250</link>
		<dc:creator>rat bastahd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 23:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5340711&quot;&gt;Gen. Riggs makes 5!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5340711">Gen. Riggs makes 5!</a></p>
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		<title>By: voxpopgirl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/13/about-time/#comment-66244</link>
		<dc:creator>voxpopgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 23:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Regarding additional names of financial contributors to the &lt;b&gt;Libby Legal Defense Fund&lt;/b&gt;…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Behind the NYTimes’ “TimesSelect” wall, i found this Eric Lichtblau piece titled ” &lt;a href=&quot;http://select.nytimes.com/search/restricted/article?res=F40D1FFD355A0C7A8DDDA80994DD404482&quot;&gt;Top Names Aid Fund for Libby&lt;/a&gt; “:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; The group includes some of the Republican Party’s best-known leaders, including two former presidential candidates, &lt;b&gt;Jack F. Kemp&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;Steve Forbes&lt;/b&gt;. Others include former Senators &lt;b&gt;Fred Thompson&lt;/b&gt; of Tennessee and &lt;b&gt;Alan K. Simpson&lt;/b&gt; of Wyoming, and &lt;b&gt;Jeane J. Kirkpatrick&lt;/b&gt;, the ambassador to the United Nations under President Ronald Reagan.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bernard Lewis&lt;/b&gt;, the Princeton scholar who is a historian of the Middle East, and &lt;b&gt;R. James Woolsey&lt;/b&gt;, who served as director of central intelligence under President Bill Clinton, have also joined the group.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[SNIP]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;She (Barbara Comstock) said the supporters would serve on an advisory committee for a private group organized to aid in Mr. Libby’s defense, to be known as the &lt;b&gt;Libby Legal Defense Trust&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The supporters are most likely to assist in both organizing the fund-raising drive and providing money themselves. Among others who have committed to the effort are &lt;b&gt;Howard Leach&lt;/b&gt; and the &lt;b&gt;lobbyist Wayne Berman&lt;/b&gt;, who were fund-raisers for President Bush’s political campaigns; &lt;b&gt;Bill Paxon&lt;/b&gt;, the former Republican congressman from New York; &lt;b&gt;former Ambassadors Mel Sembler&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;Dennis Roth&lt;/b&gt;; &lt;b&gt;Richard Carlson&lt;/b&gt;, president of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting from 1992 to 1997; the &lt;b&gt;magazine publisher Philip Merrill&lt;/b&gt;, who is also a former president and ex-chairman of the Export-Import Bank of the United States.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding additional names of financial contributors to the <b>Libby Legal Defense Fund</b>…</p>
<p><i>Behind the NYTimes’ “TimesSelect” wall, i found this Eric Lichtblau piece titled ” <a href="http://select.nytimes.com/search/restricted/article?res=F40D1FFD355A0C7A8DDDA80994DD404482">Top Names Aid Fund for Libby</a> “:</i></p>
<blockquote><p> The group includes some of the Republican Party’s best-known leaders, including two former presidential candidates, <b>Jack F. Kemp</b> and <b>Steve Forbes</b>. Others include former Senators <b>Fred Thompson</b> of Tennessee and <b>Alan K. Simpson</b> of Wyoming, and <b>Jeane J. Kirkpatrick</b>, the ambassador to the United Nations under President Ronald Reagan.</p>
<p><b>Bernard Lewis</b>, the Princeton scholar who is a historian of the Middle East, and <b>R. James Woolsey</b>, who served as director of central intelligence under President Bill Clinton, have also joined the group.</p>
<p>[SNIP]</p>
<p>She (Barbara Comstock) said the supporters would serve on an advisory committee for a private group organized to aid in Mr. Libby’s defense, to be known as the <b>Libby Legal Defense Trust</b>.</p>
<p>The supporters are most likely to assist in both organizing the fund-raising drive and providing money themselves. Among others who have committed to the effort are <b>Howard Leach</b> and the <b>lobbyist Wayne Berman</b>, who were fund-raisers for President Bush’s political campaigns; <b>Bill Paxon</b>, the former Republican congressman from New York; <b>former Ambassadors Mel Sembler</b> and <b>Dennis Roth</b>; <b>Richard Carlson</b>, president of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting from 1992 to 1997; the <b>magazine publisher Philip Merrill</b>, who is also a former president and ex-chairman of the Export-Import Bank of the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: angie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/13/about-time/#comment-66236</link>
		<dc:creator>angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;well, ck,  they are attempting that old empire theme.  Failed before and will fail again… we are doomed as a country and world if we do not stop them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, ck,  they are attempting that old empire theme.  Failed before and will fail again… we are doomed as a country and world if we do not stop them.</p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/13/about-time/#comment-66235</link>
		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;wespgc 64 –&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;It was Bushco who first pressured for another PM.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On NPR Fresh Air on 4/12/06, Sy Hersh said the reason BushCo wants to dump the leading candidate for Iraq PM is that he is committed to calling for a US withdrawl.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush is all for democracy, as long as he gets to be dictator.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wespgc 64 –</p>
<p><i>It was Bushco who first pressured for another PM.</i></p>
<p>On NPR Fresh Air on 4/12/06, Sy Hersh said the reason BushCo wants to dump the leading candidate for Iraq PM is that he is committed to calling for a US withdrawl.</p>
<p>Bush is all for democracy, as long as he gets to be dictator.</p>
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