
(Tonight’s guest poster is Gavin M. from Sadly, No!)
Above: A very good sign
It’s sometimes good to sit back in your chair, hook your thumbs under your overall straps, and savor the blessings that so grandly accrue to us as Americans, or as citizens of the other advanced countries or Canada.
Wealth isn’t always one of them, certainly, and dignity and sobriety are seeming less golden lately, with the gathering chance that we’ll spend our final days, perhaps in June or something, as green Day-Glo skeletons frozen in eyeless, crabbed screaming postures on a blasted, glassy doomscape. And not to completely minimize that, but life is full of satisfaction, and there are many gifts that modern life grants us daily that would make us the pride and envy of our ancestors.
Specifically, never since humanity clustered nightly around sod fires in the Afar and told jokes about afarensis or erectus, or whomever the funny guys with the little heads were, has there been such an impossibly fecund, pollen-blown, juice-engorged garden of comedy and hominid folly by which to be entertained and brought closer to perfect understanding of Creation. But let’s not go too wide here.
It speaks to the genius of the sons and daughters of Goethe that the highest of human faculties in our modern times is named in German. But it was an American who innovated the beautiful parallel term, Podenfreude, to denote the joy felt in reading the bad writing of others. It is named after John Podhoretz, and more about him anon. My own innovation is Hindenfreude, which combines the awed, stomach-dropping feeling of watching a spectacular disaster, such as an exploding Zeppelin, with the experience of reading John Hinderaker.
I sit here with thumbs hooked in my overall straps, typing by scorn alone, awash in the joy of living except for one thing: I’d wanted to craft a basic overview of Wingnotology on the Internet, but it’s simply too broad, and I’m wrestling two separate premises. In brief, and most simply: A consolation for being who we are, in the age we inhabit, is making fun of the grand clown-parade of upper-case-‘C’ Conservatism that is to our discourse what the Sophists were to Plato’s — or (more accurately) what the cargo-cult movements have been to Melanesia. Pretense aside, the important and genuine corrolary is that it’s through the wackiest, most fumbling of conservative writers that contemporary Conservatism best reveals itself for what it is.
(Clockwise from top left: Justin Darr, Pastor Swank, Jeff Gannon, that one Powerline guy who isn’t Hinderaker, Charles [LGF] Johnson, Marie Jon, that other Powerline guy who isn’t Hinderaker, Kaye Grogan, John "Assrocket" Hinderaker.)
There’s a music writer whom I know slightly named Douglas Wolk, whose most insightful insight, to me, was in a review of an ‘80s hardcore EP by a band called Unity. This was a few years ago. I’d had the record at some point, and remembered it as being competent, but a bit goofy – not a record you’d care much about either way. What Wolk said was that you can often learn more about a genre of music by studying the bad records than the good ones. The reason is that you can see mistakes of judgment and technique that lay bare the artist’s intentions. The artist can’t hide from you as successfully as a craftier, more practiced and opaque artist would be able to. Most good art is in a sense alike in that it’s able to speak to something more intrinsic than base culture, something cross-platform or common to the human condition. (Neil Young calls it ‘the spook’; a great song has the spook in it.) Most bad art is concerned with trying to be a successful example of itself, or of a genre or movement — with trying to operate its own cultural tools correctly. Bad art struggles to express its difference.
Apropos the Unity record, you can appreciate that most vividly in the band’s stylistically-constricted tucka-tucka, habbada-habba performances, but there’s also a bit of it in the record sleeve. You see an idealized straight-edge good-guy bursting through a wall with bricks flying marked, ‘hate,’ ‘racism,’ ‘sexism,’ and also some oddly context-specific signaria like ‘apathy,’ ‘fascism,’ and ‘negativity.’ To skim over the context — which at a certain point with these records takes a near-curatorial interest to understand — ‘fascism’ was, of course, not a real social movement in Southern California, circa 1986. It was a term that certain people in that scene used as shorthand for a whole panoply of irksome things, many of them petty, and nearly all of them collapsing, ultimately to ‘that which is not-us.’
Yet only the doofier, less acute bands (and ‘zine writers, and so forth) employed it literally — as (for instance) a brick in a wall that you’d want to bust down while waving your fist and yelling. It was like the line in Repo Man where the one punk kid is dying after botching a holdup. He’s like, “…Uck! I blame society.” That was funny to punk kids then because of course we all blamed society – and relentlessly, with headachy concentration — but you didn’t say it in so many words like that, for God’s sake. Tres louche! No class. What a tool!
Such also obtains in the honorable and worthy field of wingnutology — and by extension, American politics, in their current Conservo-sozzled form. Ken Mehlman won’t say that Christianity should be the official state religion, or that all taxes should be abolished for the wealthy, or that the US should invade France, or that Muslims should be put in concentration camps, or that divorce should be outlawed, et cetera et cetera ad nauseum. Brit Hume, Tony Snow, and Bill O’Reilly won’t say these things. Instead, they inhabit those notions, tinkering and playing with them (and often discarding them summarily when they become dissonant with the real, economic understructure of Conservatism), while presenting a massaged, ‘reasonable’ set of opinions in public that agree with every detail of the wingnut credology as though by ongoing, daily accident.
The base knows what they mean, by long exposure and consanguinity, while the message is too code-wordy and opaque to reveal the intentions behind it to saner listeners, who would immediately recognize such notions for what they are. In short, the high-end Conservatives know that they can’t get away with saying what they really believe, but to a large degree they no longer have to. People have been remarking on this fact lately, and David Neiwert’s analysis in a previous Late Nite column can perhaps stand in for others of different tenor (and insight).
But when you delve down deeper into the barrel, you begin to find conservatives who will voice the forbidden tenets, and who couple them quite plainly to the Republican agenda — and the further into the barrel you go, the bonkier and whoopier and (most importantly) plainer the messages become. The nuttier winguts often parrot the talking points and the message wackily off-key, while expressing the meaning vividly and nearly 100% correctly, nearly all the time. They’re nearly an ideal source of insight.

(Greg Sheffield’s ‘Gaggle’: Foundation-financed, and busting boldly through a wall with a brick labeled, Communism!)
A example that we’ve paid much attention to at Sadly, No! is the recent trend toward veiled calls to genocide against Semites of the non-Jewish variety, as in this now-famous epistle from Instapundit Glenn Reynolds:
Civilized societies have found it harder, though, to beat the barbarians without killing all, or nearly all, of them. Were it really to become all-out war of the sort that Osama and his ilk want, the likely result would be genocide — unavoidable, and provoked, perhaps, but genocide nonetheless, akin to what Rome did to Carthage, or to what Americans did to American Indians. That’s what happens when two societies can’t live together, and the weaker one won’t stop fighting — especially when the weaker one targets the civilians and children of the stronger. This is why I think it’s important to pursue a vigorous military strategy now. Because if we don’t, the military strategy we’ll have to follow in five or ten years will be light-years beyond "vigorous."
(Front row [l-r]: Glenn Reynolds, hysterical anti-Semite (pro-Jewish variety) Pamela of ‘Atlas Shrugs.’)
There are of course others like this. Stephen ‘Vodkapundit’ Green recently issued a rewrite of Reynolds’s statement, and a secret font of the Cartago-delenda-est, look-what-they’re-making-us-do argument toward genocide is science-fiction author Dan Simmons, whose influentia April, 2006 ‘Message from Dan’ was recently scrubbed from his site, but is still available via the magic of Google .
John Podhoretz is higher on the ladder of respectability, but exactly at the margin of civilized discourse — a well-placed pundit (and the groomed-from-childhood son of neocon solon Normon Podhoretz) who wanders off -message in astonishing ways and writes like someone yelling at you on a subway platform. Here’s an ejaculation of his from NRO, concerning whatever the last Star Wars movie was.

(Podhoretz: "Moby Dork," or insert own caption from infinitude crowding all other information from Akashic record.)
Evidently 25 years into the Star Wars empire, George Lucas decided he just doesn’t like war. Now he tells us. The whole confusion is reminiscent of the last Matrix movie, which is all about a noble truce between our heroes and the computers that have been using all of humanity as batteries. So that a few people could survive to have orgies in the underground city of Zion, billions of people had to remain in the Matrix. Inadvertently, both Lucas and the Wachowski brothers (who wrote and directed the Matrix movies) reveal with their brainless anti-Bushism the essential cowardly vapidity of pacifism.
Sharp observers note a pattern in Podhoretz’s weird explosions that has something to do with war, war, hooray! warring, Graah! having wars, and there being lots of wars. Alicublog’s Roy Edroso watches as Podhoretz shakes his head with a wub-wub sound and returns to feigning sanity:
When challenged chapter-and-verse by Star Wars obsessives from the outlands, Podhoretz shrugs and, in the time honored Jonah Goldberg "anyway it’s late and I have to walk the dog" manner, says, "It’s almost impossible to wade through all the nonsense on the Web to get to the bottom of this, and to be perfectly honest, I have no interest in doing so."
Podhoretz is of course currently calling for an attack on the Imperial Matrix Darth Vader of Iran, for the sanest reasons he can muster from day to day. But the real wonderfulness is to be found even deeper in the barrel. Powerline, for instance, is a never-diminishing font of illogic and unreason that perfectly illustrates the thinking, from issue to issue and item to item, of the ‘intellectual’ arm of the Bush personality cult. Townhall.com is a daily cavalcade of C-list semi-professional GOP liars and propagandists, all searching for a politically-correct angle on the daily talking points that their fax machines spit out. Townhall pundits will fumble with three or four ridiculous rationalizations for every one that later makes it into the mainstream press as an ‘official opinion.’ It’s like watching a play in rehearsals.
And then there’s Pastor J. Grant Swank, Jr., Kaye Grogan, Doug Giles, and Marie Jon. If you truly want to know what the credulous mob of conservatives — the core of Bush’s diehard 30% — feels in its bones, and what it’s prepared to believe and say in order to stay true to its autonomic rubber-mallet reflex-notions, Swank is probably your man of first referral — meaning, the worst (and therefore best) conservative writer in America. Swank’s latest call to reason has vanished from the Internet, as seems to happen all too often to the really super-good wingnut pieces, once found by those who can best appreciate them. For this reason, we always save a copy, and indeed here’s an excerpt. (Swank produces up to five column-length pieces per day, so a shortage is not anticipated.)
BOMB IRAN BEFORE. . .
By J. Grant Swank, Jr.
MichNews.com
Feb 13, 2006The United States must head off the annihilation of all mankind by Iranian killers. That means bombing Iranian nuclear sites.
If crazed Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad gets ahead of the freedom game, we’re done in.
Nothing will stop that Allah fanatic from bombing the world. He anticipates the return of his messiah when the world is in flames. This is the first time that a nuclear power has been wedded to a cultic creed. It has to be stopped or there will be no future to the world.
Free people have no other choice right now.
The world peace community has never before been faced with such threats as coming from millions of insane cultic Islamics. They mean business. Obviously with the numerous suicides, they don’t care if they die. Therefore, the Iranian President will doom his own with nuclear destruction in order for his males to inhabit Allah’s eternal orgy. To hell with the females.
And so on, etc. It’s not possible even to skim all of the interesting wingnut spew that comes out every day. And I’m aware of time, now, and of diminishing page-space; so there’s a steeper outramp than I’d otherwise like. This-all, in any case, is why otherwise sane people (and in that I would include myself) would wage war on crackpots and loonies via the Internet to the exclusion of other intellectual interests — of which I’m sure I would otherwise have some. Because, like Bill Cosby always says in that junkyard he hangs out in, with those kids (I think it’s in Philadelphia): If you’re not careful, you might learn something before you’re done.
And as Kaye Grogan always crows, "That’s just my opinion!"
-Gavin M. is the Vyvyan character in the overseas cult sitcom that is Sadly, No!
(Brad R. is Rick; Mike is played by Seb. Now introducing Retardo as Neil.)
Previous posts in the series:
Right Wing Racism: Steve Sailer by Armando
Educating Wolfie by Pam Spaulding
Let’s Go Real Far Right… by Matt Stoller
Tramsmitting Extremism by David Neiwert
The Fork in the Road — The Right and Race Online by Steve Gilliard
Late Night FDL: A Thin Candy-Coat of Legitimacy by TBogg
What Lies Beneath by Matt O.
Breaking The Code by Digby
Racist Crusaders Advocate Holy War: The Connection Between Racism, RedState, and the War on Terror by Red Dan
Matt O. has also been compiling racist quotes from right-wing websites over at The Great Society.
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bedlam is dreaming of fitz
damn this post is too meaty for how late it is here – I love sadly no! – see y’all on the flip
“… we’ll spend our final days, perhaps in June or something, as green Day-Glo skeletons frozen in eyeless, crabbed screaming postures on a blasted, glassy doomscape.” But will this stop the rain in California?
LMFAO. Gavin that is simply brilliant.
Gladly, Yes!
CENSURE-IMPEACH
http://tinyurl.com/a6erq
I love, love , love this from Libby.
“In a case where the jury will be asked to decide whose memory is accurate and whose statements are not trustworthy, it is perfectly appropriate to use Rule 16 to gather evidence that will tend to suggest that the testimony of certain government witnesses about their conversations with Mr. Libby is not believable. The materiality of such documents is not tied to whether the documents were reviewed by Mr. Libby or whether they describe meetings or conversations in which he took part.”
Shorter Libby. “Look bitch, I can smear whomever I want.”
And Jeralyn’s take:
Shorter version: Watch out Marc Grossman, Ari Fleischer, Karl Rove and Joe Wilson: Scooter’s coming after you.
Me3- good to see you here. But, for those newer folks, I hope you explain yourself a bit more. Whaddya think of the Fitz stuff of late? I still remember your comments about Fitz and his methods whenever I read the latest. Gave me a great perspective.
You have an unhealthy obsession with Kaye Grogan.
Mr. Libby, please ask for more discovery so that Mr. Fitzgerald can respond. I am waiting for the next revelation in his next filing.
I loves me some S,N! I can even talk like them:
700 MILE FENCE COBAGZ!!1!!one!
Roxanne — it’s that crooked grin. Utterly charming.
First blog post I’ve ever read that refers to the Akashic record. Bravo.
Hello, Me3. Good to see you are still around.
Related to previous thread:
Shame on the NYTimes!
They are following the Bush meme that any development in nuclear technology Iran makes is purposefully for making bombs. It’s an outright lie and Iran has repeatedly said that it is not their ambitions and their UN representative laid the facts on the table to show that there is little reason to believe otherwise.
The NYTimes interviewed analysts that agreed that Iran is years away from even coming close to having the capability of producing a weapon. However, to further scare the folks at home the NYTimes spun this finding this way:
“Western nuclear analysts said yesterday that Tehran lacked the skills, materials and equipment to make good on its immediate nuclear ambitions …â€
“… Iran would push quickly to put 54,000 centrifuges on line — a vast increase from the 164 they said Tuesday that they had used to enrich uranium to levels that could fuel a nuclear reactor.
Still, nuclear analysts called the claims exaggerated. They said nothing had changed to alter current estimates of when Iran might be able to make a single nuclear weapon, assuming that is its ultimate goal.â€
Why should we assume that’s their ultimate goal?
The only one I hear proclaiming that that is their goal is BushCo. – Sure someone is lying because they have something to gain, but if recent history has anything to say about anything I think I’m going to have to trust Iran on this one.
Shame on the NYTimes for perpetuating such blather, and shame on Bush for giving away our nuclear secrets to a country that has nuclear weapons and refuses to sign the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (India) while ridiculing and slandering a nation that has signed the treaty and wants to follow through on its right under it to develop a civilian nuclear energy program.
This is so much easier to read when you deal with it as comedy. Thanks, Gavin.
I love the “wub wub” bit, only it’s a bit too rubbery a sound and gives me the creeps when I see his photo.
I can’t imagine what these guys would be doing in a world without computers. Going to John Birch meetings? War-game conventions?
Instead, they inhabit those notions, tinkering and playing with them (and often discarding them summarily when they become dissonant with the real, economic understructure of Conservatism)
Priceless.
Gavin M.
holy, holy exposure of the unholy! what a post. so much to comment on and so much to ponder, but this swank guy is completely nuts and it was the last outrage i read today– there is no messiah in Islam and the translation of Allah is quite simply, God– only one God, the God. he alone is blaspheming his listeners by saying that God has an eternal orgy. this is completely and totally hatespeak and ignorant and shameful. talk about talking to your peeps while totally misleading them while trying to explain why their dear leader needs to nuke. harrumph and #$%@&&%!!!
Bedtime for me.
¡Hasta mañana!
Fraulein Anna Banned from Villainous Company !
Nice article, well written. The only other overseas Vivian I can remember is the punk rocker on the Young Ones. He was exceptional.
Pach, how do I email you? Got home from work late, little bit tired, and whatever other excuse I can think of…but I did not see the link on your column.
By the way, have you tried the World Can’t Wait.net website? They are pretty good at the instant mobilization of protesters. Almost every protest we’ve had in Wyoming has been loosely based around their schedule. For the record, I’m not affiliated.
As far as the effectiveness of protesters, I still believe the more registered voters participating the better.
Final note, received my email response from Drinking Liberally, things are looking good for setting up the Cheyenne, Wyoming Chapter!
angie, I think Swank writes like that because he thinks it’s “fighting the good fight.” Aggression and bloodthirstiness are now, post-9/11, officially “in.” Anything else is wimpy, pre-9/11 thinking, and lets the enemy know we’re skeered of him.
Or…He looked into the abyss and became it.
I find the bloodthirsty warmongering just as disturbing as the bigotry and racism in many of these sites. Also the explicit assumption that any social democracy at all is un-American, anti-American, and communist (calling people communist it kind of corny now, isn’t it? Where do they think this is, some kind of anarchic ideological jungle like Italy or France?). Anyway, I throw back in their faces, my number one Marine Hero…
Marine General Smedley Bulter, twice awarded medial of honor, on his military career:
“I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902–1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
OT RE: Libby brief…
Wow, I guess that is what you get when someone else is paying the bills. Would like to be on the inside seeing how its being spun to ScootiePoo.
Wow. About 20 references in this tour de force that I didn’t even get. I’ll be Googling for hours.
But let me put in one bit of tangential trivia about something I do know well. Those oh-so-civilized Romans, after stomping all around Italy absorbing other tribes, broke their pacts with the Carthaginians before each of the Punic Wars, and wouldn’t have been capable of salting the earth around Carthago in 146 BCE had they not copied the designs of Carthaginian shipwrights.
Don’t know if anyone’s mentioned it, but Billmon’s back with a vengance –
http://billmon.org/
Oops,
Almost forgot. For a kick ass video and hard rocking song, not to mention the laughs, do this:
http://www.heavy.com/heavy.php
Click on more channels, when they pop up, click on the blonde that is titled “Stinky Bush”, when the Bush video page pops up, go to the 2nd page and click on Back that Ass Up.
Hilarious! It just makes me want to start a mosh pit!
Margot #22
Right. As we all know, “9/11 changed EVERYTHING!” If you want to discuss that, and reason about it, then, well, you just don’t get it, do you? I do not know what kind of moron could think that “9/11 changed everything” after Islamic extremists tried to bring down the WTC towers in 1992 (or 1993, I forget, but the did try in the early nineties. It was in the papers, and Clinton admin CAUGHT the guilty and put them in jail). But it makes a good rallying cry.
The only remarkable thing 9/11 showed, IMHO, was the first inkling of utter incompetence and arrogance of BushCo. And no, for any trolls watching, that does not mean it was “his fault.” But it happened on BushCo watch, after BushCo dropped the ball on international terrorism.
Now, the 9/11 attacks are being used as a rallying cry for racism, violence, hatred by these reactionary war and hatemongers. Fortunately, time is healing the raw emotional wounds for most people and an ever smaller proportion of population still susceptable to the irrationality (around 36%, last time I checked)
Smedley Butler’s my kind of hero too— unlike one Colin Powell… Thanks all and I will learn yet again tomorrow and google all the links. Thanks, Christy, Jane, Pach, Gavin and all others here everyday. Fitzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
PS– still want to mobilize in the streets with 60+% of the population…
What’s wrong, do I still smell like garlic after work? Or is my ADHD coming through the keyboard?
Oops,
I see Pach went to bed.
9/11 changed everything!!!
Actually, what it changed was Americans susceptibility to fear mongering and manipulation by the gangsters in the White House.
Great Post, Gavin M — a food for thought question.
What is the relationship between the Bush/Rove/Cheney crime syndicate, and the fountains of wing nut hatred? I don’t believe that BushCo is really on their side, but they are very useful idiots for the Grand Theft BushCo. Actually, Dubya is as hateful as they come, but other than that, he has little in common with the slime mongers of the right.
But maybe that’s enough — they are bonded by the hatred they spew.
Okay, off to bed. I await Jane’s and Christy’s brilliant analysis of the Libby filings. Until then, I leave you with a couple of quotes pulled by Jeralyn (and read her whole post at talkleft – a thing of beauty).
“… the referral documents would show that the bias against Mr. Libby reached to the highest levels of the CIA and did not simply represent the complaints of lowerranking employees. Further, Mr. Tenet is a likely witness. If he was personally involved in the referral process, then the referral documents would be important for preparing to examine him on the issue of bias.” (Neo-con infighting, yummy.)
and …
” The government’s discussion of the NIE indicates that at trial all aspects of the government’s response to Mr. Wilson will be relevant – including any actions taken by the President.”
9/11 made it safe for cowards to be cowardly in public–it made it safe for faux-fascists to get a sniff of the real thing. and it killed a lot of people, including some of my friends. other than that, it didn’t really have to change much of anything.
and anyone who felt the hate emanating from various dark corners of our country towards clinton must have known that these scumbags were out there, just waiting for the government to invent the internet so that they could complain about the government inventing things.
sadly, no! is good. and should be read, mostly.
Wyo Nate –
Markos will be signing CTG a Drinking Liberally in Denver next Wednesday, 7:30 pm at Double Daughters in LoDo.
angie #29
Wikipedia article says Butler was a socialist Republican (what the %$#!!@?). Wikipedia must always be checked, but it was very accurate re parts that I know, including the quote. That quote was published in a socialist newspaper. How far the Republican and the Democratic parties have fallen.
Suppose the Democratic centrist organization people (sans organization) and apparatchiks (sans apparatus) blow it again over the next two elections. Well, heck, if they made Republicans like they used to there would be enough progressive ones, so that the GOP picking up the pieces might not be total Hell. But unfortunately they don’t make Republicans the way they used to.
I think Democrats need to wake up and point out that really very seriously extremist nutcases have captured GOP. What else can you make of this stuff that has been on display this week. I read these reactionary bloggers earlier this week, and they are the most arrogant, smug and vicious minded people I have come across in a long time.
Frightening but true, people who would have been considered nut cases and whack-jobs (as in whacked upside the head and brain damaged) are now being mainstreamed. Paul Krugman was right about this five years ago, but no one listened. What I find disturbing is that he has been saying it for five years, mot of what he has been saying has been born out before our eyes, and still the centrist Dems do nothing.
Gavin M. you sicko,
I’m a refugee from the heart of whiteness in Wingnuttia, so reading your insightful post was like being molested by a platoon dirty old men wearing nothing but greasy raincoats. Clinical, yet spot-on and oozing with the mantle of their batshit righteousness. I’m sure the retching will pass soon, but please don’t ever put me through that again. OK? Promise, buddy? And where’s my popsicle, dammit!
Ardant said:
“… we’ll spend our final days, perhaps in June or something, as green Day-Glo skeletons frozen in eyeless, crabbed screaming postures on a blasted, glassy doomscape.†But will this stop the rain in California?
No, it won’t. US election nukes popping in Iran will launch fallout; it has to be washed down to somewhere…
ck #35: I had several friends in the WTC that day too. Fortunately all made it out safely, though a few a little banged up. I guess it is the crowd I travel with, but they all hate Bush’s guts and hate what he has done in response, starting with Iraq.
I think the Centrist Dems should be confronted with some of the GOP ideological swill, and be asked point blank, “What do you believe? Do you believe that this is acceptable in the US today?”
Moderation is not the same as no beliefs or no values. Centrist is not the same as no opinions. And presenting a small target and lying low while the GOP hangs itself is not the same thing as being cowardly and refusing to ever take a stand on anything. Anyway, as new reports this week show, this gang of thugs will not go quietly, and they can still do tremendous damage to the US. No excuses for standing by allowing that to happen in hopes that you will eek out an election win by default. That is irresponsible.
When Colin Powell went before the UN about “Mobile Biological Weapons Labs” he completely lost me, ridiculous. This “story” was later embellished to include they only fired them up the night before “Friday Prayer” to run a “batch” and then shut it down before “Friday Prayer” concluded so it would be done in the cover of night so to speak.
I’m somewhat familiar with the equipment that it would take to do that ; ) Not happening. But beyond that, why go mobile? It was ridiculous on it’s face.
The photos Colin Powell offered of the mobile weapons labs were the trailers in question — but they were mobile bio-hydrogen weather balloon trailers, purchased from Britain. Oopsy!!!
In Atomic Iran, Jerome Corsi, co-author of the best-selling Unfit for Command, uncovers the true intentions and practices of the Iranian regime and gives light to the aid and comfort being supplied by some key U.S. politicians.
http://www.cumberlandhouse.com/atomiciransite.htm
God, who keeps giving this loser a publishing deal?
Libby implies Bush is a liar …
‘Based on the government’s articulated motive
theory, the defense is also entitled to investigate
the Administration’s response to the leak, such
as any alleged threats by the President to fire
officials who were involved. For example, if
documents indicate that notwithstanding
the President’s public statements about
the leak investigation, Mr. Libby had no
reason to fear losing his job, the defense is
entitled to production of such documents.’
I can’t speak to what follows but seeing the Nick Lowe lyrics was a pleasant surprise.
Oh dear, oh dear…. Baptists quoting Nick Lowe? Benny and Bjorn associated with Wingnuts? My mind is boggled.
Though maybe the winguts DO have something in common with ABBA: their work probably sounds better in Swedish, when you can’t understand the inanity of the words.
Re: I’m somewhat familiar with the equipment that it would take to do that ; )
PS – Fluid Bed Dryer, Fermenter, etc…
Nite.
wesgpc,
I had several former friends and one ex-boss in the WTC on 9/11. They died. I had just gone into the Lincoln Tunnel and gone out into New Jersey to a meeting at AT&T Labs. When the second plane hit the second tower, I already knew in my heart it was an inside job. Likewise, most people who live or work in the City know it was an inside job. We lived there and smelled burning metal and concrete for weeks, and have relatives who know firemen who kept talking about the explosions below ground.
The Democrats know what they’re up against. BushCo kills people. It’s a crime family. Ask the Wellstone family (oh, right, you can’t, they’re all dead)…ask Tom Daschle’s staff where they think the weaponized anthrax originated from and why it showed up in their offices the week after 9/11. The Democrats may be cowed, but they’re cowed for damned good reasons. They know that when you go to kill the kingpin, you sure as shit better not miss.
If they take the House in the fall, then Nancy Pelosi becomes Speaker of the House. Isn’t that third in line to the Presidency?
164 down, 53,836 to go.
That Bloomberg article is a contender for blatant mendacity right up there with the Post editorial. Let’s solidify some talking points soon.
Oh, my, GAWD! GavinM at FDL!
Not only that, Greg, but I stole one of PP’s graphics…
wonderful piece to end the night
thank you Gavin M!
and folks – don’t forget to send Pach your emails with just your state in the subject line so you can get hooked up with our way cool state netroots groups – let’s make them hear us!
talking about all the latest, my daughter just stole the laptop for a bit and blogged about Iran on her page at My Space – let’s all make sure we’re spreading the word everywhere we can.
siun and others: Where does Pach give his e-mail and plan? I can’t see it in his post. Is it in the comments to his post? forgive me, but I am sometimes a little slow in seeing things in front of my nose. thanks.
Gavin! Imagine finding you here!! And a particular treat since tonight, rather than quickly skimming the post for key words and phrases and then jumping straight to my comment, as is my wont at Unfortunately, Nyet! (or whatever your cute little site is called), I hooked up the ol’ apposables and read your post in full.
Splendid! This is indeed why we troll the trash-strewn back alleys of the internets, poking into the dumpsters behind neocon mansions to see what will crawl out. In fact, isn’t it interestinig that they actively try to prevent George W. Bush from saying anything that hasn’t been carefully scripted? Anyway, I feel less dirty now that I know why I’m so drawn to it.
I do, however, still get a tingly feeling when I see that picture of Marie Jon’. I’ll often walk around the room in front of my monitor, just so I can see her eyes follow me; is she seeing anyone, do you know?
MarcLord #47- Thank you for your post. My opinions about 9/11 have been formed by reading various sites on the internet. I was 1000+ miles away, on the day. My previous impression was that NYers would be the last of those to come to grips with the truth of this, because it would just be too difficult to accept psychologically. Somehow I thought that those looking on from a distance might be more rationally dispassionate, than those directly involved. I see now that you, at least, have a different view. I’ve seen you on FDL before, so I know that you are not just “stopping by”, and that is why I am responding. Unfortunately, this whole issue is still severely in the “wingnut” category, albeit with a different meaning than usual. I do wonder, however, if you are not giving the Dems too much of a break on this, by assuming that they truly understand the threat.
Impossible! Pastor Swank talks sense!
You’re almost there, pastor. Just spin the globe east, not quite halfway around…
But Otto, what about our relationship?
Pachacutec says:
April 12th, 2006 at 7:13 pm
To Join FDLers in the Roots Project
1. Put your home state (nothing else!) in the subject line of an email to pachacutec01 at gmail dot com
2. include your commenting name or dkos user name in the body of your email
3. be patient while I append you to an existing group or wait for enough people to form a new state group.
By doing this, you can connect with FDLers in your state for local action, lobbying, and perhaps for visits to your congresscritters’ offices.
TRex, I haven’t signed up with Pach for the local grouping of FDL efforts. Figure it’s useless in GA. What do you think? VG
Hey, why does my pocket feel lighter?
Wyo Nate, umm “introducing RETARDO as Neil” Seb as Mike and who was Brad again? Did Gavin have to introduce musical guest Motorhead for the Young Ones joke to fly?
Just teasing. You hit that young ones joke like it was a brick wall.
Also, Gavmo, I’m pretty sure I knew the kid that drew that Unity album cover in Jr. High drafting. Straight Edge, f*** yeah!
Finally, does this argument hold regarding the relationship between Rush fans and the band? Cuz I think we can extend it big time.
Hi Valley Girl,
Thanks, and yes the “inside job” thing is categorized as wingnut. That’s because it’s just too hard to accept. I’ve had trouble digesting it, and it sucks, but the physics and data refuting the government’s story are unequivocal. You couldn’t live there and be a halfway observant human being and not be aware of major discrepancies. They nagged at me, and I checked them out. I no longer remember what specific polls showed that a majority of New Yorkers believe 9/11 was staged, but they’re easy to find.
As for taking it easy on the Democrats, I’ve been politely chided here for referring to them as the “Dims.” Still, in addition to being craven jellyspine pols, they were both genuinely intimidated and boxed into a corner post-9/11. Their current “lie low while the Pugs fuck up” strategy is unfortunate, but technically sound, and they will come out of their shell when it’s safe to jump on Bush and act heroic. Do I think they want or are able to fix this country’s problems? Sadly, no.
wesgpc @28–
The people I saw that were most affected by this post-9/11 thirst for blood were people who were used to feeling in charge, in control. These were ER docs and some nurses. I heard things they said and couldn’t believe I was talking to the same people.
Only one doctor did not talk in that way–he was married to an Iranian woman.
I would like to thank LGF and the Red State Racists for all the traffic they sent over here this week.
We just topped LGF for daily visitor average:
FDL: 87,645
LGF: 87,534
Thanks, fellas.
Great post – interesting approach *g*
OT Libby – anon 43, there’s a lot in the filing, but imo, you put up THE money quote. Challenging the Prosecutor’s response in part by saying, “nanner nanner, I’m entitled to anything you might have which might show that, despite the President’s statements to the press, *I* had nothing to worry about” is getting out the permanent markers.
Both the Prosecution and the Defense have some complicated choreography on what they want to produce or have produced and when, but one group is the chorus line in Caberet and one group is the final number in Cats and they’re both on the stage at the same time. Makes it “interesting.”
Team Libby is yanking and yanking at the WH chain and also not giving up on the assessment – despite the Court’s prior response that was not too favorable on that issue.
Lots of interesting stuff, some complex interactions, and Ted Wells filing a sealed declaration about why they “need” info on Fleischer and specifically mentioning Ari’s presence on the Africa trip.
Oh, there’ll be a rush of Pastor Swank traffic tomorrow. And he might even visit twice if he’s really stirred up.
Is it just me, or have LGF/Chazmo become much more marginal (they were always on the fringe, but somehow in t he middle of stuff previously)? I never even go over there to troll for stoopid. They are caricatures of caricatures, and Pammy is more than enough to handle without having to go to the old standby of Iron Frist. Oh, woops, I’m at FDL, I meant Iron Fitz.
Chazmo cleaned up his act a lot when Pajamas Media was coalescing.
If you use the Wayback Machine and look at old LGF pages from ‘03 or so, the anger hits you like a blast of sulfurous air. These days he hardly writes anything, and mostly lets the commenters carry the site (with that mysterious text filter of his humming away).
Plus the writing is on the wall for the Iraq debacle. They’ve tried smoke, they’ve tried mirrors, and now they’re stuck with the comments of the true-believing sixteenthwits drunk on the pure expellor-pressed essence of the stupid berry*.
*Stole from Pinko Punko**
**See Gavin, was that so hard?!
More OT Libby – this is now the second time where the discovery rulings in the concurrent – also brought to us by Bushco – Safavian case are brought in as authority. Last time, Judge Walton wasn’t much swayed, although both are in the same District. Not substantively significant – just interesting when all the Bush defendants start generating case law to use — in each other’s cases.
Team Libby also proposes a compromise on the alignment issues relating to discovery and that compromise seems to indicate that what they want isn’t so much what the CIA, WH or others have – they want a “show me yours” at what the Prosecutor has, including Rove in particular. I wonder if this will put any pressure on for the other indictments?
Also, they come across as absolutley itching to know what he has on the Plame damage assessment. Given how little that is likely to come up at trial – this trial at least. They know that even best case on this won’t help them much (despite the spinners – the lawyers and the judge know this doesn’t go to the underlying charges, credibility of witnesses, etc.), so it makes wonder if they are just being very thorough, or are a little worried about the worst case, as opposed to the best case? Just spec.
Honestly, I’m afraid to log in and mess with anything here, otherwise I’d Pinko up the joint.
There was an incident this evening when I tried to pop a draft online to make sure the time stamp was updated, and I almost destroyed the internet.
*Gasp* NOT THE INTERNETS!
Gavin, you know I’m just pulling your leg. Just remember us lil ole’ folks when you’re rich and famous.
mmmm! Firedoglake, melts in your mouth not in your hands!
I have to admit to never reading Powerline et al, except now and then for links here. But does John Podhoretz often get so indignant over The Matrix and Star Wars as being evidence of the vapidity of anti-Bushism?
People go to read that?
Hmmmmmm.
Does he have some analogies to the glass slipper in Cinderella evidencing the transparent, and slightly smelly, monarchistic ploys of the Adminsitration?
Buck Rogers as a universal theme for rule by cowboy?
Star Trek as a scathing indictment on bad spelling? With Bones as the ultimate argument against universal healthcare?
Must be an interesting place. In the “time space consortium black hole sense” of a place, kind of way.
nanoo nanoo?
You’d be surprised what’s behind the scenes here, Samsa. The chocolate fountain, the taxidermy bears.
S,N! is mostly just the one big room with the teletype and the motorcycle ramp.
But does John Podhoretz often get so indignant over The Matrix and Star Wars as being evidence of the vapidity of anti-Bushism?
It’s sort of a free-floating indignance that can attach itself to any nearby object. Powerline is interesting because they so clearly decide their positions by how well they match the Bush aganda, as they understand it — and then create ‘reasons’ and ‘arguments’ for them that don’t make any sense. It’s like the Family Circus comics where you see Billy running all over the neighborhood with those dashed lines, just to end up two steps from where he started, bringing a flower to Grandma.
They have taxidermy bears? I’d kill for a taxidermy bear!!1!
It feels like the old days, whence we sat on Seb’s veranda, looking out over the fields of stupid juice berries waiting to be harvested (carefully of course), drinking Bartles and Jaymes. What was it on the wireless? Ah, Orange Juice “Rip It Up”….
The other shoe. She has fallen.
You are like a full court press on the internets tonight, Mr. Samsa!
Did you not detect the presence of Ukko tonight?
I have an extended riff on this delightful post of Gavin’s but it will have to wait. My serious pants are in the wash.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com…..1143521278
Fresh petition out from Vermont. One of 5 states moving towards introducing articles of impeachment directly to the House floor.
What a great post… illuminating and hilarious! How can you guys suffer through reading their bile?
Thanks for sharing!
I think this writing stinks. You seem to have fallen in love with your sense of a “writing style.” Get over it.
I just watched Larry Wilkerson speaking at the Middle East Inst. yesterday on C-SPAN. Remember when he first spoke out against these crooks ?
This was one hell of a speech and Q&A. One thing that stuck with me,{it falls in with my belief that we are seeing a “Slow Revolt” against these crooks} Wilkerson said,” You ain’t seen nothin’ yet, in terms of leaks coming. They’re all going to say your guilty Mr. Vice-president.” I’m pretty sure C-SPAN will rerun this thing in the coming days. I’ll go looking for it later, you all have to see this thing it was amazing. He was naming names and kickin’ ass.
Sloth- It is “Wordy”
Mornin! What a great post. I particularly enjoyed “Hindenfreude” and the guys from Abba.
In other news, my kitten keeps knocking my alarm clock to the floor so he can play with the AA battery when it falls out.
My response to Cheney bringing about the end of the world is to hit the streets with all of you, hug as many people as I can, laugh as much as I can, and make out with as many girls as I can.
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More on the “Slow Revolt” {I got to find a better term}
Batiste noted that many of his peers feel the same way. “It speaks volumes that guys like me are speaking out from retirement about the leadership climate in the Department of Defense,” he said earlier yesterday on CNN
This is brilliant. Gavin. Esp this:
This is something very FEW democrats really get. Which is why we end up with windbags like Leiberman and Biden. Or dissapointments like Feinstein and Schumer. Or cut out dolls like Hillary (Lord help me for saying this because I so wanted it not to be so] Obama (?).
But a few do. Leahy, Dean and Feingold come to mind.
re 85. Sorry, I forgot to mention that the strikethroughs are mine.
Valley Girl
Don’t despair about GA. Sign up and see what happens. I don’t live there, but my folks do, and they’re quite blue.
Tommy Yum #13: “First blog post I’ve ever read that refers to the Akashic record. Bravo.”
LOL I thought the same thing since I have fond memories when visiting the Hall of Akashic Records. Little do these neocon fools know that every thought and action makes a vibrational imprint that is recorded in ‘books’ for eternity.
I find it interesting that the trollnuts haven’t seemed to show up the last two evenings for this series. Are they resigned to the fact the project is bigger and more devastating than they expected? A few whiskers getting singed? Lessons are harsh and they will have to learn what is acceptable in polite society. Warmongering, bigotry, and hatred aren’t ‘values’, they are vices.
Valley Girl
My previous impression was that NYers would be the last of those to come to grips with the truth of this, because it would just be too difficult to accept psychologically. Somehow I thought that those looking on from a distance might be more rationally dispassionate, than those directly involved.
As a matter of fact, the truth is the exact opposite.
I am a New Yorker. I saw the Towers burn in crash with my own 2 eyes. I do not know a single person in this who really bought the Bush line – not from day one. And in fact, the closer one was to ground zero, the more exponentially sceptical one is likely to be of Federal smoke and mirrors (The EPA, FEMA, etc etc). Talk to the people who labored in the rubble and the smoke for months, they know first hand that there were some very very strange and unexplained “things.” No, there weren’t many conspiracy theories floating around “then” (that would come later, after Osama bin Laden was NOT captured in Tora Bora) but there was a sense that there was more to the whole situation than met the eye. The Aug 19th intelligence briefing was not a surprise.
Even in the immediate aftermath (when many of us were largely cut off from the outside world due to the impossibility of making long distance phone calls, and for those of us who don’t have cable – which is a lot – no TV) there was a sense that there was something very fishy going on and things were not what they “seemed.” And I have to tell you – that in the weeks afterward, I did not encounter any rage in this city (do you remember the flower & candle shrines on TV? They were EVERYWHERE. Literally) There was an enormous amount of grief and sadness, and some understandable anger. People were in shock, and I can tell you vengence was the last thing on anyone’s mind. There were gatherings and prayers for peace, not vengence. But I can tell you what a shock the noise of the anger – from outside the region – was, for me, when it finally penetrated. I remember when I finally was able to get through on the phone to a family member on the west coast a couple weeks later, and ended up hanging up on her after about 5 minutes. She had been watching wall to wall CNN and whatnot, and did not have a clue what was really going on here, she had already formed some very strong reactionary opinions and did not want to hear anything from me which countered her impressions. She had already “seen” it on teevee, you see.
Something else: it was so so quiet – for about 2 months. Drivers were careful. No intersection rage. No cars honking. NO shouting. We were all so jumpy that any loud “bang” could evoke a panic attack. Any expression of rage just would’ve been too much and people contained themselves.
My sense is that the events of that day were so phenomenally INSANE, that the people instinctively avoided the reflexive rage that overtook wingnuttia in the aftermath. By the time of the lead up to the war in Iraq, NYers were sick and tired of seeing their trauma being used as fodder for a Bush oil-drilling expedition. That is how people saw it here (over 80% of NYers voted for Kerry btw).
It is the people who are close to a situation who can sense the truth (an analogy might be living next door to a picture-perfect family, and then finding out that the father has been arrested for molesting his daughters. You may not have sensed the “truth” but the mother sure as hell did).
Sorry for the rambling nature of this. But for me, and all of the people I know, this is a sore subject. 9-11 was bad enough. But to have had it used to justify the monstrousiteis commmitted by this government? It is just too much.
BTW – Foreign tourists still make pilgrimages to Ground Zero to pay their respects.
OT as always…For those who keep track of such things, is this the first time there has been such a plethora of graphics spread liberally (?) throughout an above-the-fold posting?
timewarp, thank you for that. My friends from NYC say exactly what you have. I have some new links I’ve been wanting to put up, here’s one of them:
Scholars Question Cheney’s Role in 9/11
Duluth, MN (PRWEB) March 13, 2006 — A society of experts and scholars contends that the prosecution of Zacarias Moussaoui — for willfully concealing advance knowledge of the events of 9/11 — has the status of a Soviet-style “show trial” and functions as a diversion from the real culprits. The nonpartisan group, Scholars for 9/11 Truth, asserts that the evidence implicating Vice President Dick Cheney of that very offense is more obvious and compelling. If they are even remotely correct, then the alleged terrorists appear to have been cast in the role of “patsies.”
.. The experts base their conclusion on testimony presented to the 9/11 Commission by U.S. Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta on May 23, 2003, which was omitted from its final report, and on related events at the Pentagon. Members of the society will present their findings during a press conference to be held at 1 PM on Tuesday at the United States Courthouse in Alexandria, VA, the location of a trial to determine whether Moussaoui, who is called “the 20th hijacker”, should serve a life term or receive the death sentence.
.. “Mineta’s testimony is devastating,” observed James H. Fetzer, Ph.D., McKnight Professor at the University of Minnesota. Fetzer is the founder and co-chair of the scholars’ society, which recently joined with Judicial Watch in calling for release of documents, films and videos, and physical evidence withheld from the public by the administration. “It pulls the plug on the Commission’s contention there was no advance warning that the Pentagon was going to be hit.”
.. “It does not take rocket science to infer that, if these guys were killed in the crash of these aircraft, then they cannot be alive and well and living in Saudi Arabia,” he remarked, “yet the FBI has not bothered to revise its list of suspects.” Other studies available on the society’s web site at http://www.st911.org indicate that the passenger manifests for the four flights did not include the names of the hijackers nor were autopsies conducted on them.
.. “A growing body of evidence supports the inference that these 19 men were patsies for forces within the United States government,” Fetzer concluded. “This trial appears to be yet one more illustration of Karl Rove’s policy of ‘creating our own reality’ to serve the political goals of the administration, even when it comes at the cost of the lives and the security of the American people. The idea that Bush is ‘the security president’ is just a cruel joke!”
more…
http://www.prweb.com/releases/…..357922.htm
Also, found this mentioned at another site:
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view…..88,00.html
Physicist says heat substance felled WTC
Extremely hot fires caused structures to fail, BYU expert says
Monday, April 10, 2006
By Suzanne Dean
For the Deseret Morning News
EPHRAIM — A Brigham Young University physicist said he now believes an incendiary substance called thermite, bolstered by sulfur, was used to generate exceptionally hot fires at the World Trade Center on 9/11, causing the structural steel to fail and the buildings to collapse.
.. “It looks like thermite with sulfur added, which really is a very clever idea,” Steven Jones, professor of physics at BYU, told a meeting of the Utah Academy of Science, Arts and Letters at Snow College Friday.
The government requires standard explosives to contain tag elements enabling them to be traced back to their manufacturers. But no tags are required in aluminum and iron oxide, the materials used to make thermite, he said. Nor, he said, are tags required in sulfur.
…He ticked off several pieces of evidence for his thermite fire theory:
First, he said, video showed a yellow, molten substance splashing off the side of the south Trade Tower about 50 minutes after an airplane hit it and a few minutes before it collapsed. Government investigators ruled out the possibility of melting steel being the source of the material because of the unlikelihood of steel melting. The investigators said the molten material must have been aluminum from the plane.
.. But, said Jones, molten aluminum is silvery. It never turns yellow. The substance observed in the videos “just isn’t aluminum,” he said. But, he said, thermite can cause steel to melt and become yellowish.
Second, he cited video pictures showing white ash rising from the south tower near the dripping, liquefied metal. When thermite burns, Jones said, it releases aluminum-oxide ash. The presence of both yellow-white molten iron and aluminum oxide ash “are signature characteristics of a thermite reaction,” he said.
.. Another item of evidence, Jones said, is the fact that sulfur traces were found in structural steel recovered from the Trade Towers. Jones quoted the New York Times as saying sulfidization in the recovered steel was “perhaps the deepest mystery uncovered in the (official) investigation.” But, he said, sulfidization fits the theory that sulfur was combined with thermite to make the thermite burn even hotter than it ordinarily would.
Jone’s paper is peer-reviewed. You can find it here:
http://www.physics.byu.edu/res…../htm7.html
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Then go watch “911 Loose Change 2nd Edition” at:
http://video.google.com/videop…..0059923762 628848&q=911
Mornin’.
GavinM’s post was quite amazing. (I’ll have to agree with Slothrop about a certain look-at-me wordiness in the post, but I guess that’s GavinM’s style and while waiting for Hell to freeze over I’ll put up with it in order to pluck out the nuggets for my own understanding of a phenomenon that he maps so well. Hee-hee. Trying to match up there.)
GavinM says that Dan Simmons’ website has “scrubbed” his wingnuttia science fiction posting about how Islam would take over the world, creating “Eurabia” in the process, blah, blah, blah.
GavinM gave us a Google link to go find the scrubbed post.
I went there and more, moving around Dan Simmon’s site.
The scrubbed post was supposed to be at http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message.htm and indeed it’s no longer there.
But by simply knocking off the last element we get to http://www.dansimmons.com/news/. That is Dan Simmons’ directory for his “news” (he has made an error in Web page coding, so it’s exposed until someone explains it to him) and it shows all the files that Simmons has inserted in that directory. There you see not only that “message.htm” is missing, but a whole lot else as well.
In short, was “message.htm” specifically scrubbed or is something else afoot? Can’t tell.
Well, doesn’t matter now, because Christy has a new post on the Libby filing and therefore we have a new thread. Don’t get EPU’d.
Shez…
Thank you for that link. What is described in that article is exactly what most people sense here. There is no way that anyone believes that hijacked planes could make it from Boston to NY city without being scrambled, unless they were prevented from doing so. Just no fucking way.
This part is especially chilling:
Full and luscious, it will take me a while to re-read this post and follow the links. Thanks. And now, I’m ready to read the tie-in/wrap up pieces on Dominionism and theocracy. A young woman called in to Stephanie Miller a few days ago . she and her father had been arguing over fuel efficiency – I think he had a big honkin’ SUV – and he told her she didn’t need to worry because, as it turns out, oil isn’t a fossil fuel after all! No, the good lord is busy compressing the earth AS WE SPEAK and he’s making more oil for us. I mean, how could oil be a fossil fuel if the earth is only 6,000 years old, for chrissakes. His pastor told him so. And pastors don’t lie.
“Wingnuttia” should be rendered into Latin as ‘Alanucentia’(1), or such, when used with ‘principia’.
(1) ala, -ae f. wing
nux, nucis, f. nut
As for me, I’m a huge Nick Lowe fan.
Shez & Timewarp….Michael Ruppert in Crossing the Rubicon suggests why the jets weren’t scrambled. There was a combined US/Canada Air Force operation about terrorism by air at the same time all this was happening. Interesting read, that.
I recognize the ABBA cover… what is the first picture a mangling of?
just curious,
lovepettis
I recognize the ABBA cover… what is the first picture a mangling of?
It’s really just a collage, but built from Powerline’s ‘Blog of the Year’ photo in Time Magazine.
Davis X. Machina 95
You may be right about the Latin, but I really lurvvve saying “Wingnoosha” it sounds so intelligent.
But it’s not.
Get it?
“we” didnt kill off the native americans: more than 99% died not from war but from disease- no matter how benevolant anyone’s intentions could have been, it was bound to happen because of the long genetic seperation. yes we helped things along sometimes, but the result would have been the same.
Matt O. has also been compiling racist quotes from right-wing websites over at The Great Society.
And who will be compiling the sexist comments from left wing websites…like Sadly, No?
“Or so the silly silicone-enhanced Supergirl Pamela hyperventilates in her latest missives at Atlas Shrugs. Normally, Pam is content to play pocket fisherman with the likes of Chucky Johnson and John Bolton, her generically bigoted (adjust your eyes: I did not say big titted) in content — yet piercingly shrill in tone — diatribes against muslims providing steady background music for the showcased wingnut lovefests.
http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/002519.html
I see cobag people.
Slothrop — mind your manners.
And who will be compiling the sexist comments from left wing websites…like Sadly, No?
You guys at Heritage have to take the lead with these things. But for the record, Pamela seems to have only one large breast. The other is like half the size.
I can’t believe John Podhoretz is the higher end wingnut respectability. I browsed through his book on BushCo in the library. What a dreadful, miserable book—if I can call it a “book.â€
This is precisely the same justification behind the Museum of Bad Art.