
UPDATE: Steno Deb could take some notes from David Shuster (in this clip on C&L). Now that is reporting.
This wins for most asanine thing I’ve read this morning. (And a big thank you to John at AmericaBlog for the heads up on this one.)
President Bush said Monday that he declassified sensitive prewar intelligence on Iraq back in 2003 to counter critics who claimed the administration had exaggerated the nuclear threat posed by Saddam Hussein.
"I wanted people to see the truth and thought it made sense for people to see the truth," Bush said during an appearance at Johns Hopkins University’s Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies.
"You’re not supposed to talk about classified information, and so I declassified the document," he said in a question-and-answer session after delivering a speech on Iraq. "I thought it was important for people to get a better sense for why I was saying what I was saying in my speeches. And I felt I could do so without jeopardizing ongoing intelligence matters, and so I did."
It was Bush’s first comment since more detail about the release of a prewar intelligence document surfaced last week in a court filing by U.S. prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald.
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, Steno Deb Reichman of the AP repeated the White House CYA spin verbatim without one mention — not one — of the fact that the White House selectively leaked only those portions of the NIE which agreed with their public position.
The fact that there were huge portions of the NIE which disagreed with them — which fundamentally called the entire nuclear argument into question with big, fat, flashing neon warning sings which the Admnistration chose to ignore? Non-existent according to Steno Deb’s article. (See here and here for more on the big, fat, flashing neon liar signs.)
Arrrrrrrrrrgh.
Let me attempt to explain this in terms even Steno Deb will understand:
Say you have five dentists who are surveyed about patients who chew gum. Just as a hypothetical, four of those five agree that chewing gum after a meal can help to prevent cavities and keep your breath fresher, and that gum chewing can even effectively attack the germs that really cause bad breath. One of these dentists thinks that chewing gum is a waste of your time.
Deb Reichman, reporting for the AP, reports that studies show that "chewing gum is a waste of your time" after interviewing Dentist #5.
That’s not exactly complete reporting, now is it? In fact, that’s just reporting Dentist #5’s spin — because dentist number five has clearly hired some PR outfit to put out his version of the story to get out in front of the report which has yet to be fully issued by the people who hired him and the other dentists to do the scientific study. And Steno Deb bought it hook, line and sinker without even bothering to ask questions, look into the facts, or report the whole story about the study on the gum. Special.
Meanwhile, the fact of the matter is that there were four other dentists who completely disagreed with Dentist #5. In fact, the evidence that the other four dentists uncovered showed markedly different information from that put out by Dentist #5. But you wouldn’t know that, would you, by just reading Steno Deb’s article? All you know is the spin.
But it gets worse. It turns out that Dentist #5 is the CEO of the company that commissioned the study. That company wanted people not to chew gum, because they manufacture breath mints. What Dentist #5 really wants to do is sell you breath mints — more than anything in the whole world — because he fervently believes that breath mints are necessary to fight the war against the terror of bad breath.
And even though the bulk of the evidence points in a whole different direction — let’s call it the Osama bad breath germ, shall we?, which can be vanquished by the chewing of gum — Dentist #5 is pushing for breath mints anyway. He doesn’t care about the fact that all the other evidence points away from what he wants to sell you — he just wants to sell you his product. So he goes out on television, and radio, and in print media — and all his friends and co-workers do the same thing — and they talk about the importance of breath mints non-stop, but never, ever mention the fact that there is a mountain of evidence that says their theory on breath mints is wrong.
Meanwhile, the whole study that was done, showing that gum is actually more effective, stays buried. Because as CEO, Dentist #5 controls when or if the information ever gets released to the public.
Now, there is a lot more to the story, including the fact that Dentist #1 is a whistleblower and reveals to the public that the study actually showed evidence that was completely different, and Dentist #5 got even with him by only releasing his breath mint portion of the study for weeks without allowing the public to even see the mountain of evidence about the chewing gum position — but that is a story that Steno Deb clearly doesn’t want to hear or tell.
By repeating the WH spin verbatim, without even bothering to ask the real questions or inform herself of the facts — facts that have been widely reported all weekend, I might add — Steno Deb earns herself the Media Shill award of the day.
I don’t normally do this, but you can contact the AP here:
Please let them know that you would appreciate it if they reported facts and not spin. Be polite, please, but I think they deserve to know that we will not settle for reporting that only ensures their continued invites on the cocktail weenie circuit. They can report facts — or stop calling themselves reporters.
Jane’s fantastic response to the Hiatt editorial has some excellent facts that you can use in your contact with the AP. Remember, be polite — but please, let them know that we will not tolerate this half-assed reporting. It’s simply unacceptable.
Oh, and one more thing, putting in a quote where the President says that he was trying to get the "truth" out, when what he was saying was demonstrably false according to the facts given to him by his own intelligence agencies, is simply doing the White House’s bidding. Reporters should never, ever be shills for the Administration — unless they are on the WH payroll and say so up front. Shame on you, Steno Deb. And shame on your editors for allowing you to get away with this. And shame on each and ever newspaper who re-prints your spin.
I expect a retraction or a correction. But I’m not going to hold my breath.
UPDATE: Reader Greg says that the responsibility for this piece of tripe likely falls on the head of Steno Deb’s Editor — let’s call him/her Karl’s Best Pal. I don’t care who cut this piece together — the AP is ultimately responsible for what goes out under their name. Which is why I gave you the AP contact information. Please let the AP know that one-sided shill pieces are unacceptable — especially when they also happen to be factually inaccurate. But be polite, please — you will be speaking with a person paid to answer phones or e-mails, and they don’t deserve a bunch of invective — just a short, sweet statement of why facts are important to the public — ALL the facts.
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Fitz!!!
He will save us . . . .
The Fourth Estate has failed us.
I mean, they call Pulitzer Prize-winning Sy Hersh’s well-researched report “wild speculation” on the same day they hold up Hiatt’s incoherent op-ed as validation. Truthiness triumphant.
When Ann Coulter said “we own the media,” she wasn’t kidding.
Time for a blogger ethics panel!
Just called and gave them hell…Steno Deb is a freelancer, there is no phone contact for her at the AP but you can be connected to the Ombudsman.
I juat want to say, since I actually found this thread before 200 comments had been posted, that Firedoglake is one of my desert island blogs. Whatever that means.
This blog as established itself as the peer of Billmon, Kos and Digby–no small feat. Thanks, you guys.
Franco (3) — a freelancer? Hmm. Wonder what the body of her work looks like?
Like she was compensated by non-media entities?
Awww, TommyYum — thanks much. It’s lovely of you to say. I want to be Digby or Billmon or Josh Marshall or Kos when I grow up. *g*
Yesterday’s admission by Bush, that he declassified intelligence for the purposes of getting the “truth” out to the public is yet another buffer in the attempt to clear Bush of any direct responsibility in the leak of false information. It attempts to reinforce Bush’s credibility as an honest and direct policy maker. The irony is quite remarkable. The president declassified information which was patently false, in order to discredit a critic of the war, who had actually gathered the facts which discredited the information which the president declassified. You couldn’t ask for a nicer Mobius Strip of dissimination.
Aargh. You’re not supposed to talk about classified information, not because it’s classified, but because it would harm national security if you do. Selective ad hoc declassification doesn’t reduce that harm at all. Either Bush thinks like a five year old, or he acts like he thinsk everyone else is a five year old. Neither is appropriate for the president of the United States.
I was away for the weekend and am just getting caught up on my blog reading—in between working, of course—and had a story to share regarding the Osprey pic.
A couple of years ago in Sept. we came home from church to find a red-tailed hawk in our enclosed porch. It was a juvenile (it hadn’t flushed the color in the tail yet—but large. A mystery as the porch was fully enclosed. Also one of our cats was out wandering around. After a variety of broom actions and removal of door glass in order to free the raptor, we relaxed.
It took a while for the cat in question to return home and he was in no hurry to come near the porch. Aha, we though mystery solved. Hawk sees cat, makes dive, cat scurries through cat door into porch. Smart cat turns around and hightails it out through cat door, hawk is too disoriented to follow and is caught. Forgot to plan an escape route, he was so intent on attacking the cat.
We are in Iraq with no good citizen(s) or mechanism to take out the door glass and free the hawk administration who was so focused on and excited about the chase that it didn’t even think about how to get out.
Roots Project Update
We have some vibrant cells coordinating activity on their own. This week they are focused on trying to meet with their senators.
If you want to connect with other FDL activists in your state, email me at Pachacutec01 at gmail dot com and put your State (not any other text!) in the subject line.
Here are the states for which we currently have groups, but there are some other states ready to form groups if we just get a couple more people for them:
CA
NY
WA
ME
IL
MA
KS
NE
OH
SC
PA
Join an existing group from your home state or be part of the pioneer group for your home state if it’s not yet on this list.
Thanks, Christy, you leave us breathless!
(edit? asinine)
Maybe the blogosphere should compile a research document on how the dispensation of Bushco payola correlates with various media’s spin level. Or ask some enterprising doctoral candidate or CJR to take it on. Call it the Armstrong Williams on Steroids project….
Evidently the Old Media are using Rovian projection when they call for ethics in the blogosphere. Media “physicians” [and we’re thinkin’ they’re graduates of the Frist Medical College of willful spin and self-aggrandizement while licking the boots of the corpus that is Bushco] heal thouselves….
Jesus, it’s so simple. The administration constantly leaked classified information just in time to talk about it on the Sunday talk shows. Almost all of it was ginned-up bullshit to boot: kooky docs cooked up in Italy, the hallucinatory assurances of Chalabi. All of it was designed to secure just enough doubt in the public’s mind to accept the illegal invasion of a sovereign nation.
The media has all the information it needs to establish this conclusively. I guess you can’t connect the dots with a cocktail weenie.
just wanted to say: Joe Wilson is the essence of COOL. saw Joe on Olbermann last night.
This story gives me a bad taste in my mouth. I need a breath mint. Better yet, some gum.
Prairie — thanks for the spelling heads up. I was a bit pissed when I wrote this (bet you couldn’t tell…lol).
Cathy — ROFL.
Heads up gang – NYT has front page story on the miserable life of Syrian women. I trust the story, and maybe I’m just being paranoid, but are we seeing the seeds of a PR push by the new Iran/Syria “group”? Again, I do not belittle the horror described, but is Syria any worse than other Arab/Muslim countries in this regard? Just asking.
Christy,
I don’t know the history of this “reporter” so I can’t give a qualified or educated guess about her motives for this shoddy reporting. Simply put, it doesn’t even qualify as reporting, or certainly not professional reporting. But what I’m wondering is, in your opinion, is she more shill or more ignorant and lazy and incompetent or some of all of the above. I would think ’shill’ would have to play at least a large part of someone’s reporting being as shabby as what she has steno/produced in the article in question.
I hope you won’t mind taking a moment to elaborate for me/us on that question.
Thanks
The Chicago Tribune “gets it” today:
We now know, however, that the leak itself was anything but solid. In the first place, the charge about Hussein’s quest for uranium was not among the four “key judgments” of the assessment. In the second place, far from confirming that allegation, the report said the evidence was “inconclusive.”
Why would someone in the White House want to perpetrate this sort of deception? Excusing the failure to find the forbidden weapons is one explanation. Another, offered by prosecutor Fitzgerald, is that it was part of a “concerted action” to “discredit, punish or seek revenge” against Wilson.
tokrode-
Maybe that’s the warm-up for the reason to attack. We need to free the oppressed women.
Happened to be listening to Air America this morning when Rachel Maddow had Michael Isikoff on. Now, Isikoff has his ups and downs, but this morning he was very specific in de-constructing the answer Bush gave yesterday, and pointing out that Bush did not de-classify the NIE in its entirety, but only those portions that supported the statements and rationale they had been pushing.
He also blasted the whole gang for characterizing what Libby told Miller as being “key judgments†from the NIE, when, in fact, they were anything but.
Bush’s performance at the JHU School of Advanced International Studies was an embarrassment. That one segment, where he could not answer the young woman’s question about private security contractors, was a new low for him. Those students are some of the best and brightest minds going, and Bush was no match for them. It just kills me when he starts explaining what simple words and concepts mean. Whoever said that his habit of doing this stems from that being the way things are explained to him was onto something, I think.
What’s Knight-Ridder doing on this? They seem to have avoided complete co-option.
If “Steno” Deb is a freelancer wouldn’t the AP editor be responsible for adding any clarifying information to the story? Deb would just be reporting on the event she attended and I doubt she would feel it was her job to round the entire story into shape with additional background information. That’s what editors are for, or at least that’s what I thought they were for.
I am noticing a general pattern here, that whatever criticisms are leveled at Bush, he gets out of them by simply saying “I’m president, I can do what I like”.
I find it bizarre that no-one on Bush’s side seems to be concerned that there will eventually be a president that they don’t like and that this president will have these powers by default.
Tommy #12:
You are so right. This admin has made much use of the Friday night news/document dump to get much of its stuff out there unchallenged.
Rafar,
I think that they believe that they have such a lock on the voting machinery that losing will never be an issue.
It also seems that the republicrooks of today are mainly in everything for short term profit, not long term gain. Thirty years ago they were thinking long term, but now they are literally “cashing in” which has a level of excitement that obscures even thinking about long term consequences. When you are winning at the crap table, you don’t think about tomorrow, you are adding up your winnings in your head and getting all pumped up.
“I’m the President and while I didn’t actually fuck that woman, we did have sex. I’m the Commander-in-Chief so don’t hassle me during wartime!”
Christy -
A very brief comment for now: how are freelance reporters compensated? If, for example, his/her compensation is based on a flat rate per article, might that explain the apparent tendency to follow the path of least resistance by not thoroughly investigating what is reported?
Anne #20
He was in one of those “I’m waiting for them to tell me what to say modes” or is it moods.
Seriously, your comment about the bright students and then listening to GWB’s drivel where he could not say something without repeating himself was disgusting.
She’s a Bushie all right..
Here’s a pic of her, and her Hubby..
http://www.cupiditymovie.com/p…..470012.jpg
Here’s a ass kissing article on the MIERS DEBACLE..
http://www.americanchronicle.c…..cleID=2714
Can you believe ANYBODY defended that appointment ?
It’s Riechmann as in driechmann@ap.org.
RH notes: This is likely the wrong reporter. Please do not inundate this e-maill address with complaints — it would not be fair to the person who receives e-mail here. Please use the AP e-mail addy I provided above. Ultimately, the wire service has to issue any correction, so the complaints ought to go straight to them. Thanks!
It has been my observation that AP reporters are not investigative reporters. Wire stories are usually just a snapshot of whatever they’re looking at. I’m not excusing the one-sided nature of all the reporting that’s been done with this sorry administration, I’m just saying I wouldn’t hang this reporter based on one story. (I have no idea what this reporter’s history is).
Suzanne,
Their watchword is secrecy and countersign dissemination.
To that end they manipulate the media, and subvert the NSA, CIA and FBI. Meanwhile, toadies across the country employ strongarm tactics to secure local elections, as we have seen by this NH phone-jamming chicken that’s just come home to roost.
The only reason Bush hasn’t publicly crowned himself is because no one’s pressed him to do so. Why stir the pot by making overt statements when you achieve the same goal covertly?
Agree with Anne @20.
The average American is only now coming around to fact that Bush has been lying and manipulating the “news” for years now. But those students at SAIS had to know he was completely full of it throughout his appearance. I’m honestly surprised there isn’t more out-and-out protest of the man. That said, I’m told he is, at this very moment, headed to a Senior Care center in Jefferson City to tell all our older Missourians how great that Medicare Part D is. Here’s hoping there’s a Harry Taylor in the crowd.
Overt racism and the very word ‘racist’ has been so defeated that code words and subterfuges must be used. Bush and his cohorts must still pay lip-service to democracy and freedom-of-the-press while covertly undermining them. Secrecy and obfuscation are necessary to accomplish their politically repugnant deeds…
Tommy #31
Exactly. And the more we become aware of their media tactics, such as the Friday evening dump, the floating of trial balloons, etc., the more we can educate others, and the louder our collective voices at being calling for a stop.
After doing a google search on Deb Reichman and reading a number of her stories, I think she’s getting a bad rap here. The fault lies with the editors, they are the ones who ultimately put out the final AP product.
If she was only assigned to report on Bush’s speech I doubt that she would be expected to offer an opinion on his truthiness as part of the story and if she did, AP may very well have edited it out.
Anne
April 11th, 2006 at 6:52 am
Fortunately, he picked a venue that the students trumped the ‘master’
Unfortunately, I hear younger kids mimic the Shaved Monkey in Chief’s mangled language patterns all the time. He is the worst role model ever conceived to hold the office. I think the powers that be, like MSM owners and ReThuglicans, love someone who can accelerate the dumbing down of America. The less informed the better, it’s actually good for Business, it promotes mindless consumption. Hurrah, go U.S.A.
The center-left got the overseas vote! They’re in!
lina@30–
Back when I was a Senate press hack, my boss was trying to get the facts out about right-wing direct mail king Richard Viguere and how he had essentially started the two leading alternatives to AARP (American Seniors Association and 60-Plus) to trick seniors into supporting cuts to their benefits. We also had a lot of material on big Pharma’s efforts to exploit a loophole in the GATT to make windfall profits. We delivered all of this stuff on a platter to AP reporters and they did nothing with it.
The thing you have to keep in mind about Washington-bureau reporters is that they have press flacks constantly feeding them information, some of it good, most of it spin. There is no shortage of materials for an AP stringer to type up and get paid for, but only a few are interested in actual journalism.
Good Morning Christy and Everyone -
Pacha,
don’t mean to add to your burgeoning workload – But- No TX. on that list. I suspect it’s b/c our Senators are Cornyn & Hutchison. I’ve held my nose and visited both their local offices twice and trust me, it is not futile to say it is a waste of time. But I know there are several TX regulars here and goodness knows how many lurkers (many of us don’t like advertising where we’re from these days)
Okay fellow Texans – I’m sending Pachacutec an e mail, if nothing else, we can always Drink Liberally in Round Rock
Just for completeness, the thread on emptywheel’s latest post contains the deduction (for us would-be Columbos) wrt what the Jan. 24 document shown by Libby to Miller was. And given its nature, it contains an interesting mystery.
http://thenexthurrah.typepad.c……html#more
Greg
April 11th, 2006 at 7:15 am
I expect her to exercise a modicum of Common Sense.
It it to much to ask a ‘reporter’ to do some back ground on a subject Before writing a story about it?
You Googled about her, what’s her excuse not to Google the subject she was assigned to? It would take a whole 15 minutes or so to come up to speed on the core the the matter at hand. She has no excuse. It’s like a boxer with a good record up until the moment they ‘take a fall’.
If I see she is screaming bloody murder about poor editing somewhere, I will reconsider.
If she was only assigned to report on Bush’s speech I doubt that she would be expected to offer an opinion on his truthiness as part of the story and if she did, AP may very well have edited it out.
–Greg #35
She wouldn’t have needed to express an opnion. Just a few facts that would give the reader an opportunity to come to their own conclusions would have been helpful and passable.
I don’t know exactly what the job of an editor is in a case like this but I doubt that it is to practically write the article–which is what you seem to be suggesing is how it might be done. Giving the reporter a free ride – put in dramatic but hones terms – isn’t going to help save our Republic
Christy,
” I don’t normally do this, but…” ohh, yes you do. And thanks for doing it. I now know where to find ombudspeople, editors, congresscritters, senators and other assorted clueless servants.
FDL and others like you opposed to truthiness are the vanguard for changing the news media. Hell, you are the news media.
Peace.
T-
Thought it was going to be a Pickler™.
Show me at 38:
This reporter is not in the Washington bureau. I think Christy directed us to New York.
I used to be a hack feeding stories to wire service reporters. I know of what you speak.
ShowMePatriot @ 38,
“Actual journalism” has died on the vine. Corporate hegemony has seen to that. The major broadcasters used to take pride in their news departments, even though they were never a primary source of revenue.
Nowadays, it isn’t in the interest of the global conglomerate to rock the boat, it isn’t in the interest of the editor to risk losing “access” by questioning the spin, it isn’t in the interest of the journalist to spend the extra time getting the story right if it means losing the scoop or being made vulnerable to excoriation.
The Right has brought relativism to new, profane heights. They long ago lost the ability to win politically by articulating their true agenda. Their only avenue is co-option and subversion of the press.
Thank God for the internets; the new town commons. Let’s enjoy it while it lasts.
If it was soooooo important to get the word out and correct the evil things Joe Wilson was saying, why not have Scotty stand up and shout about it to the world, instead of just whispering in a few ears?
I don’t get it, but then I don’t have a thing for whispering in Judy Miller’s ear.
Aside to Anne 20:
“This is 2006. See? Different year!” (LOL!)
Christy (may I call you Redhedd?), your analogy with the 4 out of 5 dentists is one of the most hard-hitting satires/allegories/whatever, ever. In a WaPo guest editorial, a well-constructed and easy to grasp little piece like that could damage W’s image down to Nixon pre-resignation levels.
In a fairer world, and in our dreams, huh?
See, that’s the problem. Since Day One of Bush Long, National Nightmare II–The Sequel, there have certainly been enough voices of contradiction and dissent. But our stupid society is blessed with “papers of record” and a “mainstream media”, who do more than just report the “news”. They set the very agenda for what may be placed into the national discourse, and how.
If four out of five stories written about the latest Bush atrocity come from brilliant and well-spoken bloggers and opinion leaders… and the fifth comes from Fred Hiatt… which one do YOU suppose sets up the entire discussion of the matter, in every other major media outlet, for the following week?
That, in a nutshell, is why we’re screwed.
after all this time, i’m so disgusted but totally not surprised by this–thanks for the heads up; i just mailed the AP (although it did take a lotta will power not to say ‘fuck her’ even once).
For the Fitzwatchers among you – here’s another article about his appearance at the NIU law school:
http://www.star.niu.edu/articles/?id=22026
There’s a nice photo and a couple of good quotes:
****
Others [lawyers interested in doing public service] who decide to work in the private sector also can work for the public interest by volunteering for an organization or doing some pro bono work.
“If they find a cause they believe in, at the end of their career, they can say, that’s something I feel I contributed to,” he said. “So I don’t think we should view public service as an on-and-off switch.”
Fitzgerald also addressed the need for honesty and integrity in the legal profession. Both, he said, are essential to building good relationships with juries and judges and being an effective lawyer.
“Whatever organization people represent, whether it’s the government or a private-interest organization, whatever point of view they represent, they need to realize that, as a lawyer, they need to add to the credibility of that group,” he said. “Reputation is something that needs to be earned and could easily be lost.”
***
Love ya, Pat!
Got to say I was very impressed when I sent Pach an email with CA in the subject line. I got an immediate response from him asking for a wee bit more info.
Too bad all Congress-critters and corporate media are not as quick to respond to those who contact them.
Nice job FDL.
Peterr
April 11th, 2006 at 7:31 am
Scooter Lovers to nibble on JudyJudyJudy’s ear.
Berlusconi still demands a recount.
tokrode (16) — yeah, you’ve got a point there. I noted last evening on public radio an interview with Iraqi women about the potential for civil war; one of the women had been kidnapped, made a point of saying they were Syrian terrorists who held her. I can’t be positive, but I swear the woman in question was the cousin of the current titular head of Iraq…makes one go “Hmmm…” when the press has been so much about Iran and then there’s a sudden spike in comments about Syria.
(Wonder if this would show up in Technorati, a spike in chatter?)
I’m wondering if Rover has been polling and found women most resistent to any further military action. Any FDL’rs seen recent polls by gender?
New Gallup Poll out- 37% JAR for Clusterfuck.
While APPROVAL is one point above the all time low- DISAPPROVAL is at an all time high (60%).
On the issue of this thread, Gallup finds that:
21% think Clusterfuck broke the law by leaking
42% think that while legal- what he did was unethical
28% think it was fine to do it
And 9% don’t have an opinion- as they are busy watching an automobile race.
Notice that the 21% and the 42% add up to just over 60%- the same percentage who disapprove of the job Clusterfuck is doing. As his general disapproval moves up, he is won’t be believed by a segment of the population about equal to his job disapproval. 60% of americans are not listening to him anymore.
USA Today- who helped PAY for the poll- has no headline associated with the result- you really have to look for it on their “front page”. Interesting no?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/p…..mmigration
Hmmm, chanelling Fred Hiatt: ….leaks are good…leaks are good…leaks are good…
Here’s some humor to cheer a tired liberal up:
A Series Of Unfortunate Juxtapositions
Love the dentist analogy. The koolaid crowd might even understand it… those that brush their teeth anyway. Dentists 1-4, as part of their employment, signed non-disclosure agreements where discussing their own findings with people other than admin officials would land them in cell block 6. So BushCo has them penned in by the nature of the classified info. You control the flow of information, you control the sheeple.
4jkb4ia (53) — watch closely please, the Berlusconi response presages that of elections in 2006 and possibly 2008 here in the U.S. You can bet there will be many Repugs protesting election results and demanding recounts if Rover’s comments about Dems and election irregularities are groundwork for such a defense of their power.
PRINCETON, NJ — The latest USA Today/Gallup poll finds more than 6 in 10 Americans critical of President George W. Bush on the leak controversy. The more closely people are following the issue, the more likely they are to say he did something illegal rather than unethical. The poll also shows that 37% of Americans continue to approve of Bush’s job performance, unchanged from last month. While that is a low rating — and among the lowest of the Bush administration — it represents no change in four Gallup polls conducted since the end of February.
The leak controversy erupted into the news last week, when a court filing revealed that Vice President Dick Cheney’s former chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby, testified that he was authorized to leak classified information by President Bush through Cheney. The president has long been critical of administration officials who have leaked information, and there are still questions as to how this revelation might relate to the leaking of a former CIA operative’s name. While most political and legal observers acknowledge that Bush’s actions in authorizing the release of classified information were not illegal, there are political implications to the controversy.
The poll, conduced April 7-9, 2006, shows that just 25% of Americans are following the matter “very” closely, while another 39% are following the issue “somewhat” closely. Another 36% are not following the issue closely.
How closely have you been following the news about George W. Bush’s possible involvement with the leaking of certain intelligence information to reporters — very closely, somewhat closely, not too closely, or not at all?
Very
closely
Some-
what
closely
Not too
closely
Not
at all
No
opinion
%
%
%
%
%
2006 Apr 7-9
25
39
22
14
*
* Less than 0.5%
Overall, 63% of Americans believe Bush did something either illegal (21%) or unethical (42%), while 28% say he did nothing wrong.
Which of the following statements best describes your view of George W. Bush in these matters — he did something illegal, he did not do anything illegal, but did something unethical, or he did not do anything seriously wrong?
Illegal
Unethical
Nothing
wrong
No
opinion
%
%
%
%
All respondents
21
42
28
9
Follow issue “very” closely
37
35
26
2
Follow issue “somewhat” closely
20
48
28
4
Not follow issue closely
10
41
28
21
The more closely people are following the issue, the more likely they are to say Bush did something illegal rather than unethical, though expert opinion suggests that Bush has the authority to declassify information and thus his actions could not have been illegal. The less attentive respondents are more likely to think Bush did something unethical rather than illegal.
The percentage of Americans who say Bush did nothing wrong is not affected by how closely they are following the issue. The least attentive group is much more likely to express no opinion (21%) than either of the two more attentive groups (2% to 4%).
Views are highly correlated with party affiliation. Sixty-one percent of Republicans say Bush did nothing wrong, while only 18% of independents and 8% of Democrats agree. On the other hand, 30% of Republicans say Bush did something unethical or illegal, compared with 70% of independents and 85% of Democrats.
Gallup
I really get a kick out of the lynch mob mentality here regarding Deb Reichman. You people clearly have no fucking idea how actual reporting takes place in the real world, or the editorial process. If you knew any reporters you would know that their stories are always cut and rewritten. This is a common source of irritation in the profession.
It happens with every thing they write.
Have fun getting yourself lathered up, but please expend your anger on the editor.
Bush said – “You’re not supposed to talk about classified information, and so I declassified the document,” he said in a question-and-answer session after delivering a speech on Iraq.
Huh?
Greg: Was it necessary to be offensive while making your point?
We avoid that here.
Greg @ 60,
Is this what’s been happening with Sy Hersh and Murray Waas?
My local paper, the Philly Inq, did something interesting with the story. The title and first five paragraphs are all straight Bush Administration PR snow job. Beginning with the 5th paragraph, we start getting actual reporting, but by then we’re on page A5, so nobody except people like us, people who follow the news closely ans who recognize spin when we see it, get to understand the real, full story.
2 questions for the fdl authorities:
1) Anything brewing on censure? Is this giving Feingold new support? If not, just what the **** will get the Dems behind him?
2) Have you heard anything serious about–or do you want to start to stir up interest, a la Lieberman in CT, state legislature-sponsored impeachment? An obscure article of the Constitution would allow a heavily dem state to vote articles of impeachment that must then be dealt with immediately by Congress; everything else stops. Imagine…
For your edification, here is another story by Deb Reichman which I think disproves the theory that she is some sort of journalistic villain.
by Deb Reichman, AP
It was billed as a conversation with U.S. troops, but the questions President Bush asked on a teleconference call Thursday were choreographed to match his goals for the war in Iraq and Saturday’s vote on a new Iraqi constitution.
“This is an important time,” Allison Barber, deputy assistant defense secretary, said, coaching the soldiers before Bush arrived. “The president is looking forward to having just a conversation with you.”
Barber said the president was interested in three topics: the overall security situation in Iraq, security preparations for the weekend vote and efforts to train Iraqi troops.
As she spoke in Washington, a live shot of 10 soldiers from the Army’s 42nd Infantry Division and one Iraqi soldier was beamed into the Eisenhower Executive Office Building from Tikrit — the birthplace of former Iraqi leader
Saddam Hussein.
“I’m going to ask somebody to grab those two water bottles against the wall and move them out of the camera shot for me,” Barber said.
A brief rehearsal ensued.
“OK, so let’s just walk through this,” Barber said. “Captain Kennedy, you answer the first question and you hand the mike to whom?”
“Captain Smith,” Kennedy said.
“Captain. Smith? You take the mike and you hand it to whom?” she asked.
“Captain Kennedy,” the soldier replied.
And so it went.
“If the question comes up about partnering — how often do we train with the Iraqi military — who does he go to?” Barber asked.
“That’s going to go to Captain Pratt,” one of the soldiers said.
“And then if we’re going to talk a little bit about the folks in Tikrit — the hometown — and how they’re handling the political process, who are we going to give that to?” she asked.
Before he took questions, Bush thanked the soldiers for serving and reassured them that the U.S. would not pull out of Iraq until the mission was complete.
“So long as I’m the president, we’re never going to back down, we’re never going to give in, we’ll never accept anything less than total victory,” Bush said.
The president told them twice that the American people were behind them.
“You’ve got tremendous support here at home,” Bush said.
Less than 40 percent in an AP-Ipsos poll taken in October said they approved of the way Bush was handling Iraq. Just over half of the public now say the Iraq war was a mistake.
White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Thursday’s event was coordinated with the Defense Department but that the troops were expressing their own thoughts. With satellite feeds, coordination often is needed to overcome technological challenges, such as delays, he said.
“I think all they were doing was talking to the troops and letting them know what to expect,” he said, adding that the president wanted to talk with troops on the ground who have firsthand knowledge about the situation.
The soldiers all gave Bush an upbeat view of the situation.
The president also got praise from the Iraqi soldier who was part of the chat.
“Thank you very much for everything,” he gushed. “I like you.”
On preparations for the vote, 1st Lt. Gregg Murphy of Tennessee said: “Sir, we are prepared to do whatever it takes to make this thing a success. … Back in January, when we were preparing for that election, we had to lead the way. We set up the coordination, we made the plan. We’re really happy to see, during the preparation for this one, sir, they’re doing everything.”
On the training of Iraqi security forces, Master Sgt. Corine Lombardo from Scotia, N.Y., said to Bush: “I can tell you over the past 10 months, we’ve seen a tremendous increase in the capabilities and the confidences of our Iraqi security force partners. … Over the next month, we anticipate seeing at least one-third of those Iraqi forces conducting independent operations.”
Lombardo told the president that she was in New York City on Nov. 11, 2001, when Bush attended an event recognizing soldiers for their recovery and rescue efforts at Ground Zero. She said the troops began the fight against terrorism in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and were proud to continue it in Iraq.
“I thought you looked familiar,” Bush said, and then joked: “I probably look familiar to you, too.”
Paul Rieckhoff, director of the New York-based Operation Truth, an advocacy group for U.S. veterans of Iraq and
Afghanistan, denounced the event as a “carefully scripted publicity stunt.” Five of the 10 U.S. troops involved were officers, he said.
“If he wants the real opinions of the troops, he can’t do it in a nationally televised teleconference,” Rieckhoff said. “He needs to be talking to the boots on the ground and that’s not a bunch of captains.”
So what you’re saying, Greg, is that the paper is itself responsible and not Reichmann personally.
Okay, but as it’s under her name and as we outsiders can’t possibly know who’s responsible for what, what would be the point in avoiding blaming her? This way, we get to attach a name to a misdeed instead of blaming a huge, faceless institution.
“President Bush said Monday that he declassified sensitive prewar intelligence on Iraq back in 2003 to counter critics who claimed the administration had exaggerated the nuclear threat posed by Saddam Hussein.â€
Hmmm. I’m not a lawyer, but doesn’t it sound like Bush is admitting the information was released specifically to discredit what Joe Wilson was saying? Coupled with the actual information that was released, it sure seems to point that way.
Here’s another interesting polling development that needs to be watched (from the recent WP Poll.
Some pollsters ask “Do you approve or disapprove of the President’s job performannce”.
Others ask “which best describes your opinion of the president’s job performance “Strongly approve- approve- disapprove- strongly disapprove”- or some variation. The difference in these “anchors” used explains much of the variance in the poll ratings from various polls.
What’s interesting, though, is that the percentage who STRONGLY disapprove is growing:
“Bush’s job approval rating has remained below 50 percent for nearly a year. Perhaps more ominous for the president, 47 percent in the latest poll say they “strongly” disapprove of Bush’s handling of the presidency — more than double the 20 percent who strongly approve. It marked the second straight month that the proportion of Americans intensely critical of the president was larger than his overall job approval rating. In comparison, the percentage who strongly disapproved of President Bill Clinton on that measure never exceeded 33 percent in Post-ABC News polls.”
(WP)
We are getting close to a majority of people in this country who don’t just disapprove of Clusterfuck’s job performance- they HATE the little bastard.
justbrowzing: We feel the Leaker in Chef story provides another opportunity to push an accountability agenda, and censure is our flagship issue for pushing that agenda. As we speak, local activists are arranging meetings with their senators in their home states to discuss this and other issues.
The DC establishment, shortly before the leaker story, had hardened against censure as an immediate term issue but we are not accepting that.
KagroX has been leading the impeachment agenda from the local level and we’re not going to duplicate those efforts. We feel one of the strengths of the progressive blogosphere is our ability to fight simultaneously on more than one front, without centralized control. Diversity of tactics and all that.
Thanks for asking!
Greg, I don’t know who called her a “villain.” I did see “shill” and “lazy….”
Just curious, why are you so defensive about this one reporter? or does your defense that it is all the editors’ fault apply to all journalists? Jason Blair? Judy Miller? etc?
Greg — I provided the AP contact info. — and not Deb Reichman’s — to cover that. I’ve updated the post above to reflect your concerns that it was likely the editor, and not the reporter in this. I ought to have been more specific above — but ultimately the reporter and the editor — ane especially the wire service bear responsibility. It’s not a single entity issue.
Greg- for years the goopers have been getting mileage out of criticizing the rabbit eared press for “bias”- and the press often responds by changing the slant of it’s coverage. Do you think it’s wrong for the left to use the same tactic?
OT
Why I don’t like Rita Cosby:
It’s not because she’s just another cheap TV vampire, sucking the emotional juices out of some sad tale of the week. A carnival huckster that pushs the hot buttons of the great unwashed. It’s not her looks either, even though she has the appearance of an over weight field mouse.
No, the reason I don’t like Ms. Cosby is because the first Saturday night of the Iraq war as I flipped the remote from cable channel to cable channel, and I landed on her old weekend show on Fox. We had all just seen the awesome power of the modern world. First were the live pictures from a balconey in downtown Baghdad, and second were our J-DAMS and cruise missles slaming into the government buildings in that picture. This was the Shock and Awe that we had been promised, and it had lived up to it’s billing. I was thinking of other opening rounds in other wars, and the spectators of other battles. The cheering crowds in the grainy black and white movies in August 1914. The wide eyed citizens of Charleston watching the bombardment of that hated Yankee fort in the harbor. The gentry of Washington taking a carriage ride out to Manasass for a picnic and a battle.
I myself, held my breath, the way others have in the past as their worlds plunged off a cliff into the unknown. But Ms. Cosby wasn’t in that group of mine, she was part of the carriage crowd. The images made her giddy with delight, and she quickly polled her panel of colonels {Fox doesn’t pay for armchair generals}: “How long would the war last ?”
3 days said one.
A week said another.
I thought about how that picnic at the First Bull Run had ended, a head long rout back to Washington. A confused mass of the elite and the federal army in a head long retreat.
I wonder where Ms. Cosby’s picnic blanket is ?
Ken Melvin 29….That si the wrong reporter…….different 1st name.
This “Steno” Deb is def. a freelancer…I spoke to the AP ombudsman twice.
Bush’s assertion that he was getting the truth out to the people presupposes that people in this country are brain dead. Has anyone ever heard of a messianic personality being able to convey or handle the truth? Heaven help our country, and the world for that matter, for we truly are in deep deep shit having this proven dangerous buffoonish character in the white house!
rwcole.
That is a great point — even at Rasmussen, the “strongly disapprove” now pretty much equals the combined totals of “stronly approve” and “somehwat approve” 41-42% respectively. So the intensity of opposition is great.
Gotta go to a meeting — joy!!
“It just kills me when he starts explaining what simple words and concepts mean. Whoever said that his habit of doing this stems from that being the way things are explained to him was onto something, I think.”
I’m in complete agreement. It is almost painful to watch.
But I just can’t bring myself to cut him any slack (i. e., his brain is pickled; he will be returning eventually to the halfway house [my apologies to all those who are in halfway houses, who have ever been in halfway houses, or who will be there in the future], etc.).
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One problem with Steno Deb’s quotation of Bush is that she leaves out all his hemming, hawing, and tripping over himself. Her quote makes him sound like Bush had a thoughtful response. That is not at all how the film version comes across.
A stringer? I got over 500 lexis hits for newswire articles in the last six months alone. Some, of course, are the same story several times, but she pretty clearly does a lot of work for them and has done so since before the last election. Here are some of recent headlines of hers:
“U.S. Committed to Diplomacy on Iran,�” �April 11, 2006
“Bush says he needs `good, crisp information’ from his staff,�” April 5, 2006
“Bush to Iraqis: Time to Get a Government,�” March 30, 2006
“Bush blames Iraq’s instability on the legacy of Saddam Hussein,�” �March 29, 2006
and my favorite. . .
“Bush tries hand at cricket, baseball still his passion,�” �March 4, 2006
Still, she’s no Bumiller.
Most in Washington know that Clusterfuck is in big trouble- he’s been in the thirties for some time- and he could easily swing into the twenties.
The forties is lame duck land–the president can’t get his agenda done and is largely a ceremonial leader.
The thirties is different- he has become a target of disdain- his own party will run away from him- he is an anchor on the future of his own party.
The twenties is something altogether different. In the twenties- all a president has to do is verbalize support for something- and the public will be against it. Most of the political energy will be spent trying to get him out of office- it’s pariah territory. To have a sitting president get down that low with three more years in office is horrifying to many- dangerous- scary dangerous.
That is why, I think, so many news agencies are backing off him right now- they don’t want to be the newspaper that pushed him over the edge.
It’s a bait-and-switch, folks. Read the quotes carefully. Bush is talking about the “declassification” on the 18th, NOT the Libby leak.
This is amazing – I got it by email.
Bush singing John Lennon’s “Imagine.”
Just check it out.
http://www.flabber.nl/archief/015823.php
Sy Hersh is on NPR’s On Point now and will repeat at 8pm EST.
http://www.wbur.org/listen/
There is actually no evidence that Bush’s endless speeches OR the editorial pages of any publication- will have the least bit of effect on the inevitable Clusterfuck slide. People gave him the benefit of the doubt for SO long- and listened to the talking heads doing apologetics for SO long- that once they go over the edge and say “enough” they will not be vulnerable to the same tired crap the kept them in the fold for years. In rejecting Clusterfuck- they are rejecting all that shit as well.
thanks Pachacutec for your swift reply. Watching from abroad, it seems amazing and tragic the fear and inertia in the face of such obvious crisis and weakness. As someone remarked recently about DeLay, he was a masterful politician but he’d totally forgotten the point of politics, if he ever cared.
You at fdl are doing the nation a great service with your activism. so many are behind you, and please keep those links coming–for us abroad, it’s a great way to add our voice on these issues
It’s not just the WAPO and other such tools. What worries me most about the media is NPR and people like Cokie Roberts who spout the same drivel to people all over the country who think that NPR is still fair and honest.
I heard her yesterday morning dissing Wilson and the whole issue—nothing here to see, move along. I hate waking up in the morning and hearing stuff like that that makes me angry.
My congregations are usually made up of intelligent informed people who trust NPR and PBS. It’s taking a lot of work to inform them that what they hear, see and read is not reliable. If those folks are buying the lies and propaganda, you see what a tough job it is to educate the general public.
And as for the Friday News Dump, an early episode of “West Wing” was called “Take Out The Trash Day” that’s where I learned about the Friday dump and have been paying more attention ever since. Rachel Maddow on Air America ALWAYS goes over the Friday dump on Monday mornings. It’s good to tune in to that.
Worst news for Clusterfuck:
Gas prices and thirty year mortgage rates are on the rise. Oil companies blaming congress for reformulating gas. Public won’t buy it. Mark your calendars. On the day we reach $3 per gallon again- the Clusterfuck presidency is OVER.
immanentize
I think it’s pretty clear that editors were at fault in the cases of both Jason Blair and Judy Miller. Didn’t someone lose his job? Quality control is the editor’s job.
I didn’t see one false paragraph in Deb Reichman’s story. What people are pissed about is that it didn’t include a statment that the information Bush leaked from the NIE was all false. The reporter would not be in a position to make this comment unless they had covered the NIE previously. This coverage would be done out of the Washington bureau. It is the responsibility of the editor to add this to the story.
Enough.
Smart politicos are trying to draw Clusterfuck into the immigration debate. Why? Cause he will have to defend his position in favor of amnesty- and with that–20% of his rascist supporters will leave him. It’s the most important play in Washington right now- and it’s all about race- no matter what they say.
Greg– I see what you mean- but one can right nothing but truth- and totally distort the truth- we see it happening every day.
Force Clusterfuck to begin talking about his immigration plan- if you want to tilt the balance of politics in this country- it’s the best game going.
you’re right greg.
I would add that AP is probably the least egregious purveyor of bush admin. crapola. there are many worse propragandists.
Greg 60–actually, I’ve watched through my wife a reporter’s life in some detail, and I think the approach here is just the right way to go. Ms. Reichmann is enough of a grown-up to carry all the complaints to her editor’s desk and dump them there.
And I’m going to bang my DoE drum again, on the 4 out of 5 dentists…it turns out dentist #5 is not only a CEO, but he’s not even a dentist–he’s a former eye surgeon. The DoD does not build nuclear weapons, the DoE does.
I love the 4 out of 5 as an easily understood parable. I think we should keep in mind for ourselves though that the actual situation is much, much worse. In medical studies, disagreement is common, and you in fact often do have to “weigh the bulk of the evidence”, which by its very nature lends cover to someone trying to lie their way through something. In the actual case of the NIE, it’s a matter of well-understood physics and there’s just a correct answer. There’s really no cover for a fifth physicist.
And, the fifth dentist wasn’t selling actual breath mints, but sugar placebos laced with germ growth hormone.
This statement alone:
Is all anyone really needs to hear.
Greg
you offer the reporter far too much leeway; she isn’t an innocent living in a vaccuum; anyone who has been aware of this since it broke knows the leak was selective and skewed. That’s the whole point of the anger.
It’s redoubled by the complicity of the editors.
WP standards at work here
I saw two things yesterday that should presage lots of pearl clutching @ both RNC and Rove’s office -
I chaperoned some High Schoolers yesterday (the principal is the son of immigrants). The first thing the organizers did was call out to all eligible voters to ensure they were registered. Then they called out to those who will be or have family members who will be eligible by election day and sent a bi lingual ‘text’ info as to where and how to register. All the 17 year olds around me programmed an ‘alert’ in their cell phone calendars.
As exhilirating as the day’s events were, nothing gave me more hope than a snippet I saw on a news round up on the marches – Probably the smallest in number was in Idaho, where they showed the folks completely blown away by their own numbers. Abuela after Abuela exclaiming – ‘We didn’t know there were so many of us!
MarkC (80) — thanks. I hadn’t looked yet, and you’ve confirmed my suspicions.
I’m beginning to wonder whether journos should be obligated to disclose at the beginning of every report who paid for it, or who’s signing their paychecks.
that’s propagandists (if that’s even a word).
http://www.hsh.com/today.html
Here’s a site that gives the latest info on mortgage rates.
It would be great if FDL had the following info posted and updated- or at least linked to:
Thirty year fixed mortgage rates and their change for the year
Casualty count in Iraq
Oil Prices
Latest Clusterfuck JARs
I didn’t see one false paragraph in Deb Reichman’s story. What people are pissed about is that it didn’t include a statment that the information Bush leaked from the NIE was all false.
–Greg#89
Speaking for myself rather than you speaking for me:
I’m concerned, as I have already stated, that she didn’t include other readily available information that contradicted what Bush leaked from the NIE. I still don’t see why that would have been to much to expect from a reporter. I guess you’re still more than fine with giving her a pass?
Gyro Gear,
I was on line and got an IM from my stand-up friend..a winger….right as the war started.
His message: “BOOM…ha..ha..ha…”
I sent him an e-mail back as Chimpy was tanking in the late winter asking if he was still laughing about the war and his response was something about not listening to lies.
I told him to fuck off and haven’t talked since.
-GSD
lina
it is a word, and one that should be used far more often in print these days
Responding to Greg again:
But if a reporter is only going to be presenting one small part of the story, shouldn’t they make it clear that they’re only presenting one small piece?
We’ve had reporters like Judith Miller saying “I’m presenting the Administration’s side of the case, don’t beat me up because I’m not presenting a fuller picture.”
Problem is, the paper is making it sound as thought the reporter is presenting the full story.
So is Berluscummi officially toast? Or has he called James Baker, Katherine Harris and Jeb Bush and the rest of the 2000 hijackers to come to Italy and make a hit on their democracy?
-GSD
Warning, OT – and a request for help from FDL’rs for an organization I personally find invaluable.
CooperativeResearch.org is broke, operating in the red, needs our help. You can read my DKos diary requesting help, or you can simply go to CooperativeResearch.org and check for yourself.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/4/11/111244/384
Thanks, gang.
Pachacutec # 83 -
no thank you ! after seeing ‘The Doughy One’ take on ‘Superfly’, I made the hubby scrub me with fels-naptha – I love ya, but no friggin’ thank you
“Thirty year fixed mortgage rates and their change for the year
Casualty count in Iraq
Oil Prices
Latest Clusterfuck JARs”
This is Chimpy’s new meteric of measurement.
THE APOCALYPSE INDEX
-GSD
While polling isn’t perfect, it does reflect trends, and I think we are beginning to see that the momentum of the negative trend is greater than anything Bush and the administration are doing to try to stop it. So far.
What worries me is that, having learned nothing from the errors of Iraq, having accepted no responsibility for the outcome of their PR campaign, there are people within the administration who will attempt to sell the need to nuke Iran the same way they sold us the Iraq war, on the theory that the sales campaign worked so well (even if the follow-through was a debacle), and Bush’s numbers looked great. They will pay little but lip service to the possible disastrous consequences of any attack on Iran, and with Rumsfeld still at the helm of Defense, we all might want to practice bending over and kissing our asses goodbye.
If more damaging information comes out about the leak investigation, as I think it will, and given how that investigation really dovetails with the abuse and manipulation of intelligence for political gain, it seems to me that for the good of the country, it has to form the basis for an impeachment proceeding. This country cannot afford another two and a half years of Bush.
Deb Reichman
Numerous sources in google, but I’m not able to figure them all out.
There’s one at Billmon which appears to be a comment to a post and the commenter is defending Miss Deb. Can’t get there.
Shill? Looks likely
bekkieann @ 66
Though the release and subsequent declassification definately had a CYA aspect with respect to the SOTU, there are a couple of things I wonder about:
1) were the materials disclosed to Miller contrived to make it look like Wilson was the reason the USG believed the Niger -> Iraq story? and,
2) at the time of this flurry of disclosure, did the Admin continue to seek to obscure the fact they then had reason to seriously doubt the Niger claim? I mean, Hitchen seems to continue to push that line.
Perhaps there are no surprises in this New York Times story from yesterday for anyone who has been following developments in this continuing saga: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04…..1leak.html
RWCole,
We are hovering in the $2.50’s for regular and $2.70’s for premium in the Granite State.
Add on to that I am working on some letters to the editor about Bush finds fair elections and democracy more important in Afghanistan and Iraq than in NH where his party was trying to stop elderly and disabled voters from casting ballots.
-GSD
By the way, Thirty year fixed conforming mortgages average 6.62% today. They are on their way to 7%. Once they get there- duck and cover. The housing market is going to turn into a downward staircase-as it already is in many areas.
GSD–We are already within a dime of $3 per gallon for regular in San Diego. Of course we have some of the highest gas prices in the nation.
rwcole or anyone else,
anecdotal observation on gas prices -
gas prices don’t usually start their pre-Memorial Day climb until the beginning of May -
not even a hint of subtlety in their gouging this year
New thread from Redd.
Thirty year fixed mortgage rates and their change for the year
Casualty count in Iraq
Oil Prices
Latest Clusterfuck JARsâ€
This is Chimpy’s new meteric of measurement.
THE APOCALYPSE INDEX
-GSD
Apocalypse index! Perfect. Wonder if we could get Jane and Redd to post it here daily? No one else does it- and it could become a great scorecard. The components are readily available and it wouldn’t take much to update it.
Roger that, RBG.
We’ve arrived at the EPU’d Zone.
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rwcole fell into the EPU’d Zone. cbl tossed out a question sufficiently OT as to be worthy of continued discussion in the EPU’d Zone.
And, speaking of meta-comment comment narratives, these are worth the click trip: http://highclearing.com/index……04/07/4991
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JiO,
We might have to change the traditional “new thread” message to “you’re about to enter the EPU Zone”.
Redd-please have somebody photoshop this to make the hair red; you deserve it. http://www.tvacres.com/images/wwbracelet.jpg
Yep–in San Diego the prices are in the $3 dollar range already. Never got that one…
Scooter Lovers to nibble on JudyJudyJudy’s ear.
Ewwww. I can’ take it. Gag factor. What a monstrous couple they must make!
I didn’t see one false paragraph in Deb Reichman’s story.
Not so — all of it is false and misleading, because everything Bush said was false and misleading. This is not reporting, it’s stenography — or did you miss the point of this post?
Furthermore, this bit of stenography violates the pyramid structure that all reporters are taught to follow. Start with a summary; expand a little; then offer the counter views. Repeat again and again, epanding all sides of the narrative at each successive level of the report. That way, a copy editor can cut the article at any significant break point, with out losing the big picture.
Either Deb R was guilty of the worst sort of stenography, or her editors were guilty of the most dishonorable sort of rewrite.
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I’m going to go check to see if anyone followed me into the EPU,d Zone on the previous thread.
I’ll post the results there.
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RBG
EPU’d Zone…think Rod Serling voice overs, main thread zombies wandering around searching for the lost thread, La Brea Tar Pits for Wayward Comments, die-hard threadstirs and all tenacious hangers-on or other retrograde personae.
Think Deadwood.
Sure. Why not?
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fwiw, AP does have a “corrections” web page.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/f…..CTION=HOME
Corollary to “If the President does it, it’s legal” — “If the President says it, it’s true.”
But only 36% of the population believes it, anymore…
Dear AP,
Deb Reichmann’s article on Bush’s “declassification” omits critical facts:
1. I put “declassification” in quotes because parts of the NIE were first released as a result of Bush directing someone to leak them to a single pro-war reporter. That is not declassification, regardless of the fact that the president has the power to declassify.
2. Parts of the NIE supported the administration’s position on Iraq’s possession of WMD and parts of the NIE contradicted the administration’s position. Bush leaked and then publicly released only the former.
3. The portion of the NIE that Bush leaked and then publicly released had been refuted by information known to the administration but not to the public before Bush leaked it. In other words, Bush selectively leaked that part of the NIE that he knew to be false.
In spite of this, Ms. Reichmann’s article simply reports that Bush claims he declassified information because he wanted the American public to know that truth. These aren’t minor issues. We went to war over these lies. Why has the AP decided not to report the facts?
Sincerely,
“I thought it was important for people to get a better sense for why I was saying what I was saying in my speeches. And I felt I could do so without jeopardizing ongoing intelligence matters, and so I did.”
Didn’t have time to read all the comments, so I may be covering old ground, but isn’t the above quote a clear admission that he cherry-picked the intelligence? I mean we all knew they cherry-picked, but I haven’t seen something this clear from Bush on the point.
You’re being polite, Christy. I prefer the term, Media Slut.
For whatever it’s worth, here is what I sent to the Associated Press
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Deborah Reichman would do well to read the the relevent policy (hint:
do a Google search on .gov domains with “authority for
declassificaton” as the search term). She should then discover
http://foia.state.gov/eo12958/part3.asp .
How she could totally miss the point that this was not a normal
declassification is really rather disturbing and reflects poorly on
the Associated Press. This ain’t rocket science.
The link above says: “In some exceptional cases, however, the need to
protect such information may be outweighed by the public interest in
disclosure of the information, and in these cases the information
should be declassified. When such questions arise, they shall be
referred to the agency head or the senior agency official.”
It does NOT say “in these cases the information should be
declassified by having the Vice President’s Chief of Staff reveal the
information (mischaracterized as a “key judgement) to a sympathetic
reporter for the New York Times on the precondition that it be
attributed to a “former Hill staffer”.
Does truth matter any more?
Bob Somerby has a nit to pick with this post, and I’ll agree with him, only because you guys are the go-to on Plame stuff and you have to navigate very very carefully.
http://dailyhowler.com/dh041206.shtml