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		<title>By: tov</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/10/el-sueno-americano-the-american-dream/#comment-67708</link>
		<dc:creator>tov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Apr 2006 05:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“What a load. My fatherâ€™s family has been here since the early 1700s. My motherâ€™s family has been here for at least five generations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Iâ€™m not an immigrant. Iâ€™m a native.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; And quite possibly the descendant of beneficiaries of countless broken treaties (ahem, law) with the real Natives.  So much for a history of adherence to law as far as immigration goes.  And how many of us ended up here as a result of some prison reform and housekeeping back in the “old country?”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“What a load. My fatherâ€™s family has been here since the early 1700s. My motherâ€™s family has been here for at least five generations.</p>
<p>Iâ€™m not an immigrant. Iâ€™m a native.” </p>
<p> And quite possibly the descendant of beneficiaries of countless broken treaties (ahem, law) with the real Natives.  So much for a history of adherence to law as far as immigration goes.  And how many of us ended up here as a result of some prison reform and housekeeping back in the “old country?”</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/10/el-sueno-americano-the-american-dream/#comment-67017</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;See folks your rebellious anti-racist progressive anti-corporate message is getting into the minds of the evil white capitalists who run corporate america. Ironic but true! Good work! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;HiLLaRy 2008!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Corporate recruiters criticize UW-Madison’s lack of diversity&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/news/politics/14304041.htm&quot;&gt;http://www.duluthsuperior.com/.....304041.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“In recent years, Alcoa, General Motors Corp. and a division of Proctor &amp; Gamble Co. said the lack of diversity in the school’s College of Engineering is the reason they stopped recruiting there. Proctor &amp; Gamble has since resumed but other corporations are threatening to look elsewhere unless the university increases its minority enrollment.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See folks your rebellious anti-racist progressive anti-corporate message is getting into the minds of the evil white capitalists who run corporate america. Ironic but true! Good work! </p>
<p>HiLLaRy 2008!</p>
<p>Corporate recruiters criticize UW-Madison’s lack of diversity</p>
<p><a href="http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/news/politics/14304041.htm">http://www.duluthsuperior.com/&#8230;..304041.htm</a></p>
<p>“In recent years, Alcoa, General Motors Corp. and a division of Proctor &amp; Gamble Co. said the lack of diversity in the school’s College of Engineering is the reason they stopped recruiting there. Proctor &amp; Gamble has since resumed but other corporations are threatening to look elsewhere unless the university increases its minority enrollment.”</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Evil (PhD)</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/10/el-sueno-americano-the-american-dream/#comment-66427</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Evil (PhD)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 02:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thatâ€™s because; Rob, You work and earn, they lie and Loot it from you, and make you fell good while they thrust guilt upon you until you capitulate: then we have total Anarchy.&lt;br /&gt;
 Hard to argue that the moral and ethically corrupt, they have succeeded in the decline of Western Nations, It is now a question of when Western Civilizations fold over, and out of existence.&lt;br /&gt;
I am afraid that has happened, the upper etalons of elitist-sphere will not acknowledge the failure.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thatâ€™s because; Rob, You work and earn, they lie and Loot it from you, and make you fell good while they thrust guilt upon you until you capitulate: then we have total Anarchy.<br />
 Hard to argue that the moral and ethically corrupt, they have succeeded in the decline of Western Nations, It is now a question of when Western Civilizations fold over, and out of existence.<br />
I am afraid that has happened, the upper etalons of elitist-sphere will not acknowledge the failure.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/10/el-sueno-americano-the-american-dream/#comment-65741</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 05:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Rob:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mt. Pleasant was a nice neighborhood 20 years ago. There was a nice mixture of peoples and cultures. Iâ€™m stating a fact. I am not unsympathetic to their situation. I work my you know what off too. Anyway, this whole situation is a mess. My question is why arenâ€™t the hard working people in Georgetown and on Capitol Hill? Because you guys arenâ€™t having it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Deen: - You should have addressed this to Pachacutec.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Rob:</i></p>
<p>Mt. Pleasant was a nice neighborhood 20 years ago. There was a nice mixture of peoples and cultures. Iâ€™m stating a fact. I am not unsympathetic to their situation. I work my you know what off too. Anyway, this whole situation is a mess. My question is why arenâ€™t the hard working people in Georgetown and on Capitol Hill? Because you guys arenâ€™t having it.</p>
<p>Deen: &#8211; You should have addressed this to Pachacutec.</p>
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		<title>By: Svigor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Svigor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The â€œrule of lawâ€ crowd seem to forget that the only people who can claim to not be immigrants in this country are currently living on reservations in the west, displaced by a bunch of white-skinned European immigrants.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What a load.  My father’s family has been here since the early 1700s.  My mother’s family has been here for at least five generations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not an immigrant.  I’m a native.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The â€œrule of lawâ€ crowd seem to forget that the only people who can claim to not be immigrants in this country are currently living on reservations in the west, displaced by a bunch of white-skinned European immigrants.</i></p>
<p>What a load.  My father’s family has been here since the early 1700s.  My mother’s family has been here for at least five generations.</p>
<p>I’m not an immigrant.  I’m a native.</p>
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		<title>By: starimomak</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/10/el-sueno-americano-the-american-dream/#comment-64834</link>
		<dc:creator>starimomak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Here is a little mind-fucking fact for you language racists: One of the reasons that Texans fought for independence against Mexico was because the Mexican government required every transaction â€” like land sales â€” be done in Spanish. Thatâ€™s right, the war of independence (the Alamo â€” remember?) was about language plurality.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The mexican government was wise to do so…if they had controlled the immigration of Yankees they would have kept Texas. Of course, in that event, it would be more screwed up than it is now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for the little heart-tugging story, well, many of my ancestors have been here so long that they are lost in the mists of time. They built this country, setting its basic framework long before the waves of immigration in the late 1800s. They made all the success of immigrants possible — you are free-riders on their hard work. An no, they were not immigrants. Immigrants move into an established society. They were, as Samuel Huntington has pointed out, settlers who fought and died to establish a new society. Its too bad they were foolish enough to let all these other people in.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Here is a little mind-fucking fact for you language racists: One of the reasons that Texans fought for independence against Mexico was because the Mexican government required every transaction â€” like land sales â€” be done in Spanish. Thatâ€™s right, the war of independence (the Alamo â€” remember?) was about language plurality.</i></p>
<p>The mexican government was wise to do so…if they had controlled the immigration of Yankees they would have kept Texas. Of course, in that event, it would be more screwed up than it is now.</p>
<p>As for the little heart-tugging story, well, many of my ancestors have been here so long that they are lost in the mists of time. They built this country, setting its basic framework long before the waves of immigration in the late 1800s. They made all the success of immigrants possible — you are free-riders on their hard work. An no, they were not immigrants. Immigrants move into an established society. They were, as Samuel Huntington has pointed out, settlers who fought and died to establish a new society. Its too bad they were foolish enough to let all these other people in.</p>
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		<title>By: Deen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rob: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mt. Pleasant was a nice neighborhood 20 years ago.  There was a nice mixture of peoples and cultures.  I’m stating a fact.  I am not unsympathetic to their situation.  I work my you know what off too.  Anyway, this whole situation is a mess.  My question is why aren’t the hard working people in Georgetown and on Capitol Hill?  Because you guys aren’t having it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob: </p>
<p>Mt. Pleasant was a nice neighborhood 20 years ago.  There was a nice mixture of peoples and cultures.  I’m stating a fact.  I am not unsympathetic to their situation.  I work my you know what off too.  Anyway, this whole situation is a mess.  My question is why aren’t the hard working people in Georgetown and on Capitol Hill?  Because you guys aren’t having it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/10/el-sueno-americano-the-american-dream/#comment-64601</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Everyone at that rally shouted that they wanted to learn English. Itâ€™s not so easy when you work 60 hour weeks.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By the second or third generation, these families are fully English fluent. Just as very immigrant group has been.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Something else - by the second or third generation they are no longer doing the work that gets our worship. So we need to make sure that we have a never-ending stream of illegals. It will get very crowded and expensive, but let’s not forget that someone’s grandfather immigrated here.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Everyone at that rally shouted that they wanted to learn English. Itâ€™s not so easy when you work 60 hour weeks.</i></p>
<p>By the second or third generation, these families are fully English fluent. Just as very immigrant group has been.
</p>
<p>Something else &#8211; by the second or third generation they are no longer doing the work that gets our worship. So we need to make sure that we have a never-ending stream of illegals. It will get very crowded and expensive, but let’s not forget that someone’s grandfather immigrated here.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;It seems to me that those illegal immigrants who have made an effort to learn the language should stay. And that should be the only testâ€“not how long they have been here or how many children they have had in America.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Learning English does help eliminate one of the any ills caused by immigration. These people that learn it are worthy of our highest adoration and worship.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It seems to me that those illegal immigrants who have made an effort to learn the language should stay. And that should be the only testâ€“not how long they have been here or how many children they have had in America.</i></p>
<p>Learning English does help eliminate one of the any ills caused by immigration. These people that learn it are worthy of our highest adoration and worship.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/10/el-sueno-americano-the-american-dream/#comment-64599</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I have attended many many demonstrations: a few were notable for the inclusive atmosphere, the peacefulness, the friendliness. Todayâ€™s Immigration Rally in Indianapolis was one of those. I just couldnâ€™t help from smiling and grinning. I was taking quite a few photos: everybody waved a flag and smiled when they saw the lens was on them.&lt;br /&gt;
Good times all around.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And let’s be so thankful that the Spanish radio stations were so successful in getting those flags to be American and not Mexican!! We don’t want people to realize where their allegience really is!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I have attended many many demonstrations: a few were notable for the inclusive atmosphere, the peacefulness, the friendliness. Todayâ€™s Immigration Rally in Indianapolis was one of those. I just couldnâ€™t help from smiling and grinning. I was taking quite a few photos: everybody waved a flag and smiled when they saw the lens was on them.<br />
Good times all around.</i></p>
<p>And let’s be so thankful that the Spanish radio stations were so successful in getting those flags to be American and not Mexican!! We don’t want people to realize where their allegience really is!!</p>
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