
John Amato makes a very good catch over at Crooks & Liars today of Bill Kristol bashing Patrick Fitzgerald on Fox News (you can watch the tape here):
Kristol: The leak story is absurd, but I now think the whole prosecution is absurd. I now think it's a politically motivated attempt to wound the Bush administration ...He is now out to discredit the Bush administration.
This is new. We haven't seen much of this before -- most of Barbara Comstock's extensive opposition research on Fitzgerald has been placed in small, under-the-radar places (and yes it does exist, I just don't link to it for obvious reasons). Many people have assumed that BushCo. hasn't gone into smear mode because of their previous praise of Fitzgerald, to which I say balderdash. They'd frame Mother Theresa for pedophelia if it suited their purposes. It's what they know how to do.
I've been convinced all along that they haven't taken this tack because Fitzgerald has Rove dangling like a spider over a Jonathan Edwards-style flame, a "sinner in the hands of an angry God." He knew Fitzgerald had the power to end his political career at any minute by indicting him and since Rove himself is the king smear merchant, he didn't want to piss him off.
All of this must have been endlessly exasperating for Scooter. Not only did the White House refuse to release his carefully self-penned exoneration from the Plame matter, they have steadfastly resisted unloading the full power of their artillery on Fitzgerald himself.
But that restraint apparently ended this week as President Prickly Ego felt himself directly under attack. Kristol sent up a trial balloon today. It's a very risky strategy, considering that they don't know what Fitzgerald has, and he's proven himself quite capable of sending them into a political tailspin by lobbing a public grenade. No amount of inoculation on Kristol's part is going to be able to soften the landing if further evidence of BushCo. culpability in the Plame affair is revealed.
With an excess of concern I would refer them to this article in The Economist:
Saint PatrickOct 27th 2005
From The Economist print editionRepublicans should think twice before trying to demonise the White House's tormentor
Before they start shouting any louder, conservatives might study what happened to the liberal noise machine when it took on Mr Fitzgerald. Few organs on America's tattered left have as much heft as the New York Times, which decided to put the full weight of its authority behind one of its star reporters, Judith Miller, when she refused to divulge her sources to Mr Fitzgerald. Editorials hammered him for mounting a “major assault” on journalistic freedom. Both the editor, Bill Keller, and the publisher, Arthur (“Pinch”) Sulzberger, accompanied Ms Miller to court; and, when she was incarcerated, the newspaper thundered that she was “surrendering her liberty in defence of a greater liberty, granted to a free press by the Founding Fathers so journalists can work on behalf of the public without fear of regulation or retaliation from any branch of government.”
The affair has ended with the Times looking as if “the runaway Chicago prosecutor” has reversed over it repeatedly. Not only did Ms Miller end up testifying about her breakfasts with Scooter Libby, Dick Cheney's chief of staff, but the Times's use of its “great liberty” is under attack from all sides. Mr Keller has now circulated a memo accusing Ms Miller of “misleading” her boss about her relationship with her sources and of being “entangled” with Mr Libby. (Ms Miller calls this memo “ugly” and “inaccurate”.) Byron Calame, the paper's public editor, has penned an article entitled “The Miller mess”. In a notably catty column, Maureen Dowd described her colleague as a “woman of mass destruction”—a mild rebuke compared with what Times people say in private.
This should serve as a powerful warning to the Republicans. After all, the Times could claim it was defending a grand constitutional principle. The White House has fewer options. (The right to leak confidential information to the press? The right to smear a critic of your policies? The right to tell half-truths to a grand jury?)
(snip)
Mr Fitzgerald embodies everything that conservatives ought to admire. He is the son of Irish immigrants who worked his way through Amherst and Harvard Law School (his doorman father found him work as a doorman). He is a workaholic who made his reputation prosecuting gangsters and terrorists, starting with the Gambinos. (In good Godfather fashion, he even had a witness flown in from Sicily.) He convicted Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman of the 1993 World Trade Centre bombings, travelled to Africa to investigate the embassy bombings of 1998 and brought the first American indictment of Osama bin Laden.
The third handicap for Republicans is that their arguments during the Lewinsky affair may be thrown back in their faces. How can they moan that Mr Fitzgerald has broadened his inquiry well beyond the original leak, when they supported Mr Starr's leap from dodgy land deals to oral sex? How can they say that perjury and obstruction of justice are technicalities when, during the Lewinsky affair, they declared that “perjury and obstruction of justice are high crimes and misdemeanours” (Senator Bill Frist) and that “perjury and obstruction of justice are crimes against the state” (Senator Sam Brownback)?
One of the golden rules of politics is to choose your enemies wisely. So far, Mr Bush has been lucky or skilful in this regard. Mr Fitzgerald is somebody who can do Mr Bush great harm; but conservatives attack him at their peril.
Now take away the absurd notion that the New York Times is in any way "the liberal noise machine" and the points still stand. This is a PR dog.
And just as a matter of general principle -- I wouldn't overplay a weak hand by pissing this guy off. Very bad idea.
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new, eh? i have to think about this for a sec. it’s like kremlinology, you know?
OT: stuff you should read if you want to know what JC and others are saying about iraq and the “reality” ground.
On late night radio the other night, I heard some jerk, I think his name was Batchelder,holding forh on Fitzgerald. He said Bush will have him fired before any of this goes too far. He had some proof that I dont remember but…what do you think it was about?
They’re desparate… the walls are closing in!
Someone on DU was saying there are more filings due Wed. Is that true? Are they from Fitz or Libby’s lawyers?
I would not put it past them to repeat the Saturday night massacre if they can… and they would be stupid enough to do that.
Attacking FitzGerald? Seriously bad idea. He has brought down NY mafia, the Chicago machine, and the World Trade Center ‘93 bombers. YOU DO NOT MESS WITH THE FITZ.
We must take action. I have sent an email off to my senators, hope they will actually listen. email: I strongly oppose attacking Iran. I vehemently oppose the first strike use of nuclear weapons in Iran. This is insanity. They WILL respond. They will retaliate by attacking America domestically. Other nations are likely to become involved. Please tell the President this is a terrible idea. Our children and grandchildren deserve better than to be the victims of WWIII. [/email]
They want to fight on the pedophile issue? Fine. Aren’t there THREE homeland security people caught up in pedophile issues?
The good guys need to stay off of small airplanes and keep up the good fight. We pray to God that right will prevail.
Channel Evil thinks the revelation that Bush is the leaker is a non-story.
Am once again trying to read through all the threads since yesterday. Just finished the Washington Post article (v. good report), then the idiotic editorial that seemed in ignorance of the news in its own paper. Next I ran through the titles here and saw the thread on just that subject! Gotta go read more, but you all Fitz away. I’m returning later to read the commentary!
Unfortunately the NYT pales in comparison to the reach of the RW noise machine.
What will be interesting will be the extent to which such a smear campaign could backfire. Even people only vaguely following this must be picking up on the meme of “Leaker in Chief.” There is a hint of desperation in the WaPo’s ludicrous editorial. As some commenter said, something schizophrenic, like there’s civil war in the news room.
A smear campaign could be as politically disastrous as a Saturday Night Massacre.
But at this point, short of nuking Iran, it may be the only card they have left to play.
Thanks, Scooter.
Or maybe he’s ready to indict Rove, so this is a preemptive strike from Kristol to set the frame for this as a “partisan” prosecution.
EPU’d– And geez, after reading that WaPoo editorial, I was (am) highly anxious. The idea (worry) of being killed in the shower with a rolled up newspaper isn’t so psycho after all.—
Lite weight comment, but the intent is perfectly serious.
Someone might want to tell the Economist that Arthur’s nickname is “Punch” not “Pinch.” On second thought, nevermind….
Just read “Newsweek’s” coverage. They were pretty harsh to Bush.
Thanks for another great post Jane.
From the WaPo’s blog:
“May we please have the ombudsman write a column about whether, after this, Fred Hiatt should still have a job?
Posted by: Brad DeLong | April 9, 2006 08:54 PM”
We can only hope that BushCo does piss off Fitz.
They will likely find that Fitz has not only a double-barreled shotgun, but a backup arsenal of fully auto machine guns.
Bring it on!
I pray for Fitz and hope he has the best in bodyguards. These folks resort to any smear when their political careers are at stake; I shudder to think what they would do if they actually felt threatened in their personal fortunes.
If we are talking about the same people that would do the things to Mother T that was referred to in the post, well then- fitz better have all his ducks all lined up in a very straight row. Now, given these effing criminals their propensity for attacking anyone percieved to be threatening them, why would anyone in their right mind think that as soon as fitz started to perceptually threaten them, they would stir up their dogs from hell. What we saw spewing from crystals’ mouth was just the start of an obvious “swift boat attack”!
So, I guess we should do as they used tom say on all the old serials– “Stayed tuned for the next exciting chapter”.
Can’t wait, can anyone?
billjpa
Libby’s lawyers are supposed to file some motions on Wednesday…
And I bet the only reason Kristol was the one floating this notion is because he apparently wasn’t in the Plame/Niger loop from the outset. He’s got clean hands (at least in this matter) and doesn’t live in fear of personal reprisal from Fitz.
Rove carefully picks and chooses which minion gets which assignment.
The way PNAC Neo-Convict Bill Kristol talks creeps me out and I’m a guy.
this case will fillet some of Karl’s mignons…
*ilson- and are those motions going to be from the bowels of Libby’s defense?
Batchelder? Depending on the spelling, and if he is from MA, that could be a distant cousin of mine. Not a very common name.
Ms. Hamsher, thanks for another good little article. I think this guy Kristol is doing a double-punch. It IS a trial balloon, as well as part of the repug counter-attack. The counter-attack, from my read of weekend news, seems to be: 1) NO leak, the pres. performed a VALID declassification to straighten out lies told by opponents, 2) it’s Amb. WILSON who is the LEAKER! ( I heard this from a Ga. Congressman on cable news) 3) it’s another Deomcratic LIE that the pres. outed Plame (but we all know, that’s NOT what the Fitz filing alleges), and 4) Fitz is on a vendetta, not seeking justice.
I think we’ll hear ALL these arguments as the WH tries to put out this fire. They will be constant and consistent. Political leaders will argue the DEclassification thing….the WH will let tv/radio/newspaper hacks argue the Fitz attack angle…so that Rove can “plausibly deny” he’s behind the personal attacks. “Karl’s up to his elbows in world problems Fitz, he doesn’t even have time for these media fools” will say Karl’s attorney.
Finally, attacks on Fitz may proceed simply because the WH knows that Fitz, due to ethics, will NEVER respond. A free fire zone…at least from their eyes. Good lord. Ghostman
15: I thought this Arthur was Pinch and his Dad Arthur was Punch, but I got no links and my recollection could be wrong.
Jane, you are extraordinary today, although I worry that all the holding back your real feelings might be unhealthy in the long run. Tell us, and tell them, what you really think! *g*
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In regards to Jane’s great previous Post, I’m guessing Bob Parry from consortiumnews.com will saute Hiatt (as he has been doing for years) for todays appalling editorial in an upcoming piece.
There is something “up” with Kristol.
Watch the video again.
Study it closely.
He appears slightly more bloated in the face than usual. He is slurring his words. He stutters a few times. His voice is trembling in places.
It’s noteworthy that he even dared to make this public statement against Fitzgerald to at all. I’m sure he knows it’s a PR disaster, too. Somebody is pressuring him to do it.
He appears to be under extreme emotional stress. Surely, it is not the fate of 60 million Iranians - who are expected, per today’s WaPo, to receive the business end of Israeli tactical nukes by year end - that is driving him to such a state.
No, Kristol was in on it the Iraq-Al Queda pushback. There is a LA TImes article detailing it today. Right around the same time, the Weekly Standard published a leaked report from Hadley that had cherry picked intelligence reports to show a Hussien-Al Queda link. Kristol published it verbatim. He was part of the push back and the selective leaking from the OVP and WHIG. A fact he conveniently did not mention today.
anon… i am slightly out of touch with this story. please refresh my memory: is there any evidence that fitzgerald has investigated kristol at all or that he might pop up in an investigation in any way? that might explain his defensiveness today.
Joseph Wilson launched his op-ed about the Iraq debacle. Isn’t it about time for Valerie Plame likewise to go public, about the nuke-Iran madness? (Or has she already written / posted somewhere?)
Oh, BTW - looks like the Bush administration is lying again.
“The U.S. military is conducting a propaganda campaign to magnify the role of the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, according to internal military documents and officers familiar with the program. The effort has raised his profile in a way that some military intelligence officials believe may have overstated his importance and helped the Bush administration tie the war to the organization responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.”
and the kicker …
“For the past two years, U.S. military leaders have been using Iraqi media and other outlets in Baghdad to publicize Zarqawi’s role in the insurgency. The documents explicitly list the “U.S. Home Audience” as one of the targets of a broader propaganda campaign.”
Yep, our own goverment running a propagand campaign on us. Of course, as Fred Hiatt would say “What is wrong with that?”.
Pointedhead — You’re right, Kristol does look bloated and weird in that clip.
anon 32 — that’s right, I remember it now: he was as big a neocon shill for the war as could be. Hardly a disinterested party, and probably now shilling not only for the sake of his own reputation but also because he’s hot for this Iranian attack. Unfortunately, let us not forget that most of the Dems are, too. I’m not sure about Feingold or McKinney, but I’d bet you dollars to donuts that the rest are all gung-ho for attacking, though maybe not with nukes.
http://www.courant.com/hc-nore.....3655.story
===Perplexing No-Show By Joe Lieberman Reacts With Silence After Report Ties Leaks To Bush
Lieberman said nothing until late Friday afternoon, when his Senate office e-mailed a one-paragraph statement to reporters:
“Lewis Libby’s testimony that he was authorized by the Vice President, apparently with the approval of the President, to disclose parts of a classified National Intelligence Estimate to a reporter is very troubling, particularly because it appears to contradict previous statements they have made against such disclosure. In the interest of public confidence in our government it is important that the President and Vice President publicly respond to Mr. Libby’s assertions.”
The e-mail was sent at 4:20 p.m., exactly 24 hours after the Associated Press quoted Schumer as calling for Bush and Cheney to publicly respond.
“It was a situation where he wanted more information before he put out a statement,” Sean Smith, the manager of Lieberman’s campaign, said Friday. “So that’s what he did.”===
Oh yeah, and this, from an older opinion piece (April 2) in the Courant (can’t find online) written by a Republican: LIEBERMAN LOOKS WORRIED ABOUT PRIMARY BYLINE: KEVIN RENNIE Kevin Rennie is a lawyer and a former Republican state lawmaker. His column appears every Sunday on the Other Opinion page.
===U.S. Sen. Joseph Lieberman is in an embarrassing dilemma. He will spend the next 18 weeks asking the Democratic voters of Connecticut to endorse the decisions he’s made in the past six years, but he won’t reciprocate. Lieberman, 2000 Democratic nominee for vice president and an aspirant for the top job in 2004, is facing an unexpectedly lively re-election challenge from fellow Democrat Ned Lamont, a political novice from Greenwich.
Most stalwarts of either political party recite pledges of unity by rote. It’s part of the script. Lieberman’s been in elective office for nearly 35 years as a Democrat, and has prospered by his affiliation with his party, so he should have no trouble pledging to abide by the decision of the state’s Democratic primary voters. Not this year.
Lieberman campaign manager Sean Smith said this past week when asked about supporting the winner of the August primary, “This is a campaign, man, we are in this to win. We’re not thinking about those contingencies.” Note to Sen. Lieberman: You may want to have someone who doesn’t speak like a Valley Boy issuing your statements. This is 21st-century Connecticut, dude.=== hahah Valley Boy!!!
Here is the LA Times article on Kristof published today. His hands are not clean. Read the opening paragraphs.
http://www.latimes.com/news/na.....-headlines
snowbird42 says:
April 9th, 2006 at 5:56 pm
I think you may have heard John Batchelor– he can often make one nauseous. WABC-AM recruited him right after 9/11. ugh.
from the website:
John is a veteran novelist, author of seven political romances as well as a short history of the Republican Party. Born in Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania, in 1948, John attended Lower Merion High School and Princeton University. In 1976 he was graduated from Union Theological Seminary. John is married to the Reverend Doctor Bonnie Ann Rosborough, pastor of a church north of New York City. John, Bonnie, and their children Sam and Anna divide their time between New York and Maine.
” Be Nice to the Man With the Double-Barrel Shotgun”
Huh … I thought this was gonna be a post about Dick Cheney…
Although Jane, you did pepper Kristol pretty good…
OfT, but perhaps of interest here: Connecticutblog has the audio of Senator Lieberman’s waffling about whether he’ll run as an independent in November. He certainly did not pledge to support the Democratic nominee. He did not rule out running as an independent, although he did say he hopes there won’t be a primary.
ha, ha, Joe, that ship’s already sailed!
http://connecticutblog.blogspot.com/
Nice catch in 38 VG. Joe has the same position as all the other Republicans.
Judy Miller as part of the liberal noise machine. Wow. . . I mean . . . wow.
The more I listen the more I understand. Whether Republican or Democrat at the level of the citizen we all strive for the same thing. We know what is right and what is wrong. But after reading much of the news after the last revelations from Mr. Fitzgerald, at least to me, it has become quite clear that at the level of the presidency it makes no difference what your party affiliation might be, for as the president, you are nothing more than a shill for the true powers that run the world.
Eisenhower spoke of them as have many afterwards. Beware the military/industrial complex as they have become our shadow government. Those that hide in the shadows are the ones whom tell the president to jump and how high that may be.
The only way to beat them at their own game is to expose the rot for what it is. With greed and pride still being two of the seven deadly sins, we may have a very long way to go. But to do nothing my friends would truely be the sin of a ones lifetime.
Thank goodness for blogs and their ability to find the truth rather than what a manipulated media controlled by those who would control you dish out daily.
Seek the truth wherever it may take you. Shoot for the moon if you must, but remember, even if you miss it, you will still land among the stars.
Holyshit.
Back from a week of vaca with no news or online access.
Christy, ever drawn up articles of impeachment?
Our lameass dem leadership (sans Feingold and Waxman) will need a kick in the ass on this one as well.
Sure feels like critical mass is being reached.
Firedoglake IS the Revolution!
I think kristol just look slike he has a bad cold, or allergies.
Whew, that WP article is incredible.
“Some senior intelligence officers believe Zarqawi’s role may have been overemphasized by the propaganda campaign, which has included leaflets, radio and television broadcasts, Internet postings and at least one leak to an American journalist.”
And that journalist was from? … the NY Times.
“One slide in the same briefing, for example, noted that a “selective leak” about Zarqawi was made to Dexter Filkins, a New York Times reporter based in Baghdad. Filkins’s resulting article, about a letter supposedly written by Zarqawi and boasting of suicide attacks in Iraq, ran on the Times front page on Feb. 9, 2004.
Leaks to reporters from U.S. officials in Iraq are common, but official evidence of a propaganda operation using an American reporter is rare.”
Sorry Fred.
34: Mrs. Wilson is undoubtedly restricted from public comment about all subjects, even though she has retired from the CIA. Can’t ever really leave Fight Club, y’know…..
Mary,
If you are still around I left you a long EPU’d post at the bottom of the “Fitz talks to college kids” thread. Comments on your long, beautiful post #38 and your question at #39.
I was away fro the computer this afternoon. I was a stuningly beautiful day here after a cold rainy Sat. and I just had to get outside and enjoy. Sorry for the tardy reply!
15 and 28: The Economist has it right about the “Pinch” nickname. Several weeks, or a few months ago, I read a good, long article which I believe was in the New Yorker about the current management of the NYT. It was in this article that I first saw the “Pinch” nickname being quoted, essentially a not so flattering comparison of the present publisher with his father’s legacy. It’s an article well-worth reading, including a look at the Miller fiasco.
I’m nervous.
TeddySanFran, thanks for the heads-up on the Lieberman statement.
Here’s the text from the ConnecticutBlog link in #42:
Joe Lalli: Ned Lamont has already stated that he would support you if you won the Democratic nomination and Zell Miller once stated that he would always be a member of the Democratic party. Can you make similar promises?
LIEBERMAN: Will I always be a member of the Democratic party? I hope there’s not a primary. I’m confident if there is one, I’ll win it, but I’m not gonna rule out any other option for now because I feel so strongly that I can do better for the State of Connecticut for the next six years in the United States Senate that I want to give all the voters a chance to make that decision on Election day in November. I want to do it as a Democrat. If I didn’t want to do it as a Democrat, I would choose to run in some other party, trust me. But I want to do it as a Democrat because I believe in the Democratic party, so really the choice is up to my fellow Democrats…
Jane, you and RH are truly wonderful. Thanks for everything you do. You make it possible for me to get up and go to work for the moron-in-chief. You should know that there are lots more like me at work and very few true Bushies and we watch them every minute. I am now 2 pages behind in my FDL lurking. Picked a bad weekend to put in new lighting in the kitchen! A Fitz-rific day! Best quote so far this weekend (and this poor Catholic boy really liked immaculate declassification): “This guy is the Atticus Finch of our time.†(Mash 4/9; 1:17p) Oh my. So right.
So Bob,do you also read that as “screw you dems if you don’t play my way”?
James Preston - 176 below thread - niiiiice!
P.S.I gave to Lamont,and intend to do so again.
I’m suddenly filled with doubts. I think they could go for a Saturday Night Massacre and have a reasonable chance to get away with it. Why? Because the media landscape is different now than in Nixon’s time. The propaganda machinery of the Bush government is much more aggressive and pervasive than Nixon had at his disposal.
As the WaPo has demonstrated, their editorial board will push whatever bullshit comes out of Rove’s stinkhole. Any real reporting on what’s going on can be killed or buried on page A18. There is no radio Americans rely on for news, just the partisan windbags on the right who will gladly serve any propaganda for the One True Party.
As for television, Katie Couric is the choice to fill Dan Rather’s shoes. Nightline, with the departure of Ted Koppel, has become more of a human interest show with shiny graphics instead of providing in-depth news. And Brian Williams and Matt Lauer are the shining examples of journalism on NBC. There’s just no substance on television.
Joementum just on Fox61 in Hartford. Regarding running as an independent, “I want to give ALL the voters in Connecticut a chance to express their opinion about whether I should continue to represent them.”
That’s all we need, folks….
Dear people,
I’m on the east coast, so I’m gonna call it a night. See ya on the flip side.
BTW Jane, how do you always manage to find such flattering photos of the tall man in the rumpled suit? You certainy have an eye for him.
DMM - “So Bob,do you also read that as “screw you dems if you don’t play my wayâ€?”
Yeah, I don’t think he’s gonna go away quietly. If he loses the primary, he’ll run an indy campaign, ala Nader. I think we should start referring to him as “Ralph Lieberman”.
Presumably Joe is getting lots of GOP money. Can we find out now?
it occurred to me too that kristol may just have a cold - everybody got a bit of it this past week. that would explain the extremely nasal overtones.
but it doesn’t explain why, mid way through his response, he starts slurring and stuttering and why, at one point, his voice even starts trembling. he’s also gained weight.
he still manages to pull of his byzantine talking point reasonably well (no small feat), but not without revealing some signs of emotional distress.
simply compare his weird and unsettling performance to that of mara “eva braun” liason (i.e. cold-blooded, opaque, inhuman, masterful).
Be Nice to the Man With the Double-Barrel Shotgun
Especially when you are lying face down on the floor and he has his shoe on the back of your neck and the cold steel barrels are pressed tightly against your skull.
Fitz is trying to save Liberty from the Invasion of the Bodysnatchers
http://i8.photobucket.com/albu.....iberty.jpg
The wagons have been circled folks. Little Billy criticized Bush about Harriet Miers, etc,, but that was just to create a facade of objectivity. Billy is the the asshat who STARTED the PNAC cabal.
These evil bastards are simply hiding behind the clown in the White House, and controlling him… This Cabal includes Dickless Cheney.. Here’s part of their “Statement of Principles”
“We seem to have forgotten the essential elements of the Reagan Administration’s success: a military that is strong and ready to meet both present and future challenges; a foreign policy that boldly and purposefully promotes American principles abroad; and national leadership that accepts the United States’ global responsibilities”
These are neanderthal REAGANITES !!! There are following a debilitated ex-actor and leading us to the brink of WWIII….
Hi Everyone.
Delurking to post a link to Greg Palast’s take on the whole Leaker-in-Chief scenario at: gregpalast.com
I saw Palast in person when he spoke at the University where I work.. He was a hoot..witty and sarcastic…and news-wise was actually the first to break the story of the Florida voter purges in 2004..(I live in Fla.) so he is definitely on the side of the “reality based community”! (I love the last two paragraphs in his column!)
Now here’s how that WaPoo editorial could have been written:
http://www.courant.com/news/op.....editorials
“Ralph Liebermanâ€. Thats pretty good!I think no matter what he does,he’s caught in the gravitational pull of Bu$h’s black hole ratings,his dilithium christals are fading,and Scotty is pissed ’cause his daughter had to drive to”the next hospital over”.
I agree with Bill Kristol. Well, at least the last part. Fitz does appear to have bought the argument that there was something improper about the way that the White House attempted to go after Joe Wilson. I suspect he may have decided to take a course of action that will wound this administration (such as indict Karl Rove and Stephen Hadley). And the White House is right to be worried about it.
Cause it’s gonna hurt…
I think Billy Kristol has been in mourning with his daddy, Irving, wrt Frances Fukuyama and Wm. Buckley’s defections… rather than their normal defecations. Neoconservatism in its death throes…
LOl! Yeah, the onrushing Republican crackup is not going to be pretty, and there will be casualties — including plenty of neocons. It’s not just gonna impact the White House and Capitol Hill. The good times are coming to a screeching halt in the K Street board rooms and think tank conference rooms, too.
Bob Adams 61
That certainly sounds like Lieberman saying “screw you.” If Lieberman runs as an independent, who would he vote for, for leadership positions? Somebody should ask him that at one of his little town meetings. Another good question for him would be, if you can’t commit to being a Democrat through November, why should I vote for you in the primary? If you are unsure you’ll stay with the Democratic Party, will you promise to not take DNC money? If you jump parties, will you return campaign contributions?
More about William Kristol, from RightWeb http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1254
===Kristol, the editor of The Weekly Standard who postures as an independent journalist, got the money for serving on an Enron advisory board, and, in the words of Stelzer, keeping Enron Chairman Ken Lay and his team ‘up to date on general public policy trends.’†(16)===
And, http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1253 ===Irving Kristol is the so-called godfather of the neoconservative movement.===
puppethead says: April 9th, 2006 at 7:03 pm
Maybe it’s wishful thinking, but my feeling is that last week’s revelations about Bush’s involvement in leaking have changed the political landscape. Indeed, I have to wonder if this was Fitz’ preemptive strike against a Saturday Night Massacre. He has now drawn a line all the way into the Oval Office, much sooner than I had expected.
If Berlusconi goes down in the elections and Prodi decides to blow the whistle on whatever SISMI was up to and with whom….
Fasten your seatbelts, it’s going to be an interesting spring…..
Here’s something new I spotted on Washington Post via MSNBC: “U.S. military plays up role of Zarqawi” - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12243324/
We shouldn’t be surprised, but I continue to be even more disgusted.
Can someone help me distinguish which British parliamentary group this refers to?
In June, a British parliamentary inquiry concluded otherwise, delivering a scathing critique of Blair’s role in promoting the story.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00916.html
I have been lurking here for months getting my Fitzgerald/Plame case fix. Thank you Christy, Mary, Looseheadprop, emptywheel and all the other commentators for your legal analysis and comments in plain language for the rest of us to follow the case. It’s been an exciting week for those of us who are obsessed. And thank you Mr. Fitzgerald for your love of the law.
Christian Coalition Shrinks as Debt Grows
In an era when conservative Christians enjoy access and influence throughout the federal government, the organization that fueled their rise has fallen on hard times.
The once-mighty Christian Coalition, founded 17 years ago by the Rev. Pat Robertson as the political fundraising and lobbying engine of the Christian right, is more than $2 million in debt, beset by creditors’ lawsuits and struggling to hold on to some of its state chapters.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01063.html
R.I.P
Another question that imo needs repeating for the sake of the greater public good: Why did Bush “out” a member of the CIA if he’s so concerned about our security?
Enough with the chest pounding.
The truth is this administration knows everything that Fitz has up his sleeves as they are probably tapping his phones.
This administration has asserted its right, repeatedly, to break the law. The truth is, it is Fitz who is walking carefully here.
The administration could come out tomorrow and fire Fitz and pardon everyone involved. What do they have to lose? Polls? The Congress? Respect?
They’ve already lost all of that. Who would stand up to them then? The Rubber Stamp Congress? Please.
Fitz is playing coy as he wants this investigation to stretch out. I’m sure Fitz is hoping to stretch the investigation and charges against other administration figures out beyond 2008 and out from under President George W. Bush’s pardon pen.
Let’s not pound our chests and think Fitz is some President slayer. I remember not too long ago, folks in the lefty blogosphere thought the administration had made a fatal mistake in going to war with the CIA. And then Tenet came out and ran himself through with the sword.
Quick counting chickens before they hatch.
They should remember the Saturday Night Massacre.
Joe Willson video is at crooksandliars. At the end he says “all options are on the table” when asked if he’s going to file a civil suit. Because Joe DiGenova was saying he saw Bush handing out a pardon before the trial I was getting worried, but then I realised that if Bush pardons Libby+whoever, it just means a civil suit by Wilson with the country having already decided Libby etc. was guilty and the country wanting to hear what really happened, and Joe’s lawyer able to hold a presser every day. So actually the best option for Bush is to let the trial(s) go ahead because at least he has the presumption of innocence and a non-grandstanding prosecutor. This is going to be so good.
The way PNAC Neo-Convict Bill Kristol talks creeps me out and I’m a guy.
–#23
Yes, I agree. He turns my stomach. Very strange individual, as they might say in law enforement speak.
“And just as a matter of general principle — I wouldn’t overplay a weak hand by pissing this [Fitzgerald] guy off. Very bad idea”.
You might well be right. Still, Fitzgerald strikes me as a fairly (in the best sense of that word) disenthralled type person. And why not? He’s a pro who knows what he’s doing. Apparently very few people his team spoke with were as stupid as Libby in playing fast and loose with their sworn testimony. Which (I’d guess) means he holds most of the cards, big picture-wise. If there’s a guy the Boy King needs worry about pissing off, his nickname is Skippy. Or Scooter, or some such stupidly assinine moniker befitting a nine year old kid. “Just call me Scooter”. What an asshole.
To the two people commenting above my first comment, there’s no way Bush can fire Father Fitzmas/ issue pardons because then he has to deal with a civil suit and the whole country having already decided he’s guilty already.
Hurts so good….
A ‘Concerted Effort’ to Discredit Bush Critic
Prosecutor Describes Cheney, Libby as Key Voices Pitching Iraq-Niger Story
Anyboody know who Wilson’s lawyer is? Who would file and run with that civil suit?
Bush Ordered Declassification, Official Says
WASHINGTON, April 9 — A senior administration official confirmed for the first time on Sunday that President Bush had ordered the declassification of parts of a prewar intelligence report on Iraq in an effort to rebut critics who said the administration had exaggerated the nuclear threat posed by Saddam Hussein.
But the official said that Mr. Bush did not designate Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby Jr., or anyone else, to release the information to reporters.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04.....r=homepage
The plot thickens ; )
Cozumel, ya beat me to it! Interesting. Bush is saying now that he did NOT authorize anyone to leak it to reporters. (And that makes no sense given the charade they went through with Hadley). Libby, Cheney being hung out to dry?
Yeah, sure, Bill. We really don’t need to look for a smoking gun. It’s pretty easy to tell that their pants are all on fire!
peace,
jim
anon,
Heh, heh… Cheney = Under the bus ; )
I suspect Fitz has put more thought into how to handle a Saturday Night Massacre scenario than the administration asshats who would have to execute one. If there’s anybody who has learned lessons from the past, well, we know it ain’t the Bush junta.
That said, if there is some sort of Saturday Night Massacre, what happens to all of the stuff Fitz has collected? What happens to the GJ? I know I’ve asked this before, but I’m wondering if anybody had any answers…
I seem to remember that at the Wilson’s attorney was a neighbor named Christopher Wolf, but then I could be wrong. ;)
angie #71
Francis Fukuyama has not entirely renounced the faith or set aside the Kool Aid. He is on the advisory committee of Scooter Libby’s legal defense fund.
Moe99, 15
Someone might want to tell the Economist that Arthur’s nickname is “Punch†not “Pinch.†On second thought, nevermind….
“Punch” is the nickname of the elder Sulzberger. “Pinch” is the nickname of the current publisher of the Times.
Margot, I tried to find a link to answer your specific question re: the Brits, but not yet. But I did find this: http://www.sundayherald.com/34461
===The covert project was called Operation Rockingham and it was designed specifically to ‘cherry-pick’ information which pointed towards Saddam having a WMD stockpile that he could use imminently. Right up until the outbreak of war, the staff of Operation Rockingham, which was set up by the defence intelligence staff within the Ministry of Defence, deliberately overlooked ‘mountains’ of reports and intelligence documents which pointed towards Saddam destroying his arsenal and instead used ’selective intelligence’ from just a tiny pool of data to create a false and misleading picture that the Iraqi ruler was a direct threat to the West.===
wrt the military playing up this “mastermind” Zarqawi, Robert Fisk counts himself among those who wonder if the guy even exists: Common dreams
(Preview tells me the link is gonna work. Cross fingers and.. Submit!)
Kristol flat out lied right here:
Plame was in fact covert.
From Coz’s NYT’s link in 89:
“But the official said that Mr. Bush did not designate Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby Jr., or anyone else, to release the information to reporters.”
Holy shit Coz, this is big and you as usual are first. Dayum, Snottie McMuffin’s Press Bluffing tomorrow could be a lot of fun.
“..if there is some sort of Saturday Night Massacre, what happens to all of the stuff Fitz has collected? What happens to the GJ? I know I’ve asked this before, but I’m wondering if anybody had any answers…”
Great question. I don’t know either (I don’t know what a GJ is, either).
Jane, Brilliant find on that Economist article!
The WH/neocons clearly heading into Meltdown Mode, and I fear that Bush will really be unpredictable, aggressive, messianic, ‘unhinged’ as things spiral faster down for him.
Agree with Taylor that: “There is a hint of desperation in the WaPo’s ludicrous editorial”. You can almost smell the fear and weird creepiness. Kristol’s attempts to smear Fitz = Classic Rove.
Palpable weirdness.
Bush caught by same photographer writing another embarrassing note:
http://wolfblog.net/bushleak.html
Sonoma 101
GJ = Grand Jury
Angie, I remember that too, and I think I actually read it in a WaPoo article. But that was a while back…
I think I may be getting the outlines now. THe story will be Bush ordered it declassified at the end of June. That was completed July 18th. In the meantime Cheney and Libby went off the reservation and leaked it to reporters (along with Plame’s name). Bush didn’t know anything about it. (Bullshit, but that’s the story.)Rove backs him up and starts cooperating with Fitz- saving Bush (and himself) and throwing Libby, Cheney under the bus (the emails people). Just a guess … but maybe.
‘He knew she had to be stopped, or she’d leave him forever.’
Is this a clarification or contradiction??
AP - Saturday, Bush: “Get it out there”
NYT - Sunday: “Or anyone else”
Har, har.
86: 1) isn’t there some sort of statute of limitations? Wilson has to file a suit by “x” date? 2) I still think the end game is a pardon. Even if Wilson files a lawsuit, if it gets too hot for Libby, he’ll just “surrender”, let Wilson get a judgment, and then go file bankruptcy. Case closed.
Or so I think. Ghostman
Re Cozumel #89
If Bush ordered the NIE partly declassified to rebut critics but had no plan to release it to reporters, this would rebut said critics how?